October 24, 2025 • 50 mins
The Wizard says “Always be careful if you have a Landlord”…………Listen in to find out why!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal
podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with
Joshua P. Warn.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and
opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions
only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast
to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors
and associates. We would like to encourage you to do
(00:34):
your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. This
is Strange with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua be Warren,
and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new my gloving content, news exercises, and weird experiments
(01:18):
you can do at home, and a lot more on
this edition of the show ghost Writers in the Sky
and The Strange Case of Audrey Munson. I am recording
this show in one of my favorite parts of the year, October.
(01:42):
I was watching a video the other day with the
late great comedian Rodney Danger film. He said, I tell
you I know I'm ugly. Halloween. I opened the front door.
Kids give me candy, and I enjoy especially this time
of year, of course, playing spooky songs. I've got my
(02:06):
whole playlist. One of my favorites is the classic Western
called ghost Writers in the Sky. It was I guess.
It was originally published in around nineteen forty nine, sung
by Vaughn Monroe, and then later Johnny Cash did a
(02:29):
version of it. You know that song. Their brands were
still on fire, and their hooves were made of steel,
their horns were black and shiny, and their hot breath
he could feel a botafar with threw him as they
thundered through the sky. Before he saw the writers coming
hard and you heard their mournful cry ipii IPII ghost
(02:51):
Riders in the Sky. Well, I've always enjoyed thinking about
that and the the the image that it creates of
looking up into the sky and seeing a ghostly phenomenon
on a grand, vast scale. And one thing that really
(03:15):
surprised me was something that I discovered when I was
writing my book many years ago called Pet Ghosts Animal
Encounters from Beyond the Grave. This book came out in
let's see two thousand and six. My goodness, it's been
almost twenty years hard to believe. Dedicated to my wife Lauren.
(03:41):
As a matter of fact, And when I was writing this,
of course, I was looking at all kinds of animal ghosts,
what I call fantibles, and when I was looking into horses,
I found this story that was again surprising story about
Chimney Rock, North Carolina. Now, of course I was born
(04:04):
and raised in western North Carolina, and Chimney Rock is
one of the most mystical and magical places that I've
ever explored. There's a village called Chimney Rock and it's
right there at the Chimney Rock State Park. It's called
that because there is this Okay, you're down in this
(04:25):
sort of scenic I guess it's a sort of a valley,
and you look up and you see this three hundred
and fifteen foot stone monolith there towering above everything with
a big American flag waving, and that's Chimney Rock. You
can imagine what it looks like if you've never seen it.
Look up Chimney Rock, North Carolina. There's an elevator that
(04:48):
will take you up there, and the view of the
countryside is just it's just breathtaking. And Chimney Rock has
always been associated with mystical and paranormal phenomena. I remember
growing up, I first started hearing about all the little
people that had been seen in that area, and then
(05:10):
also fairies people say that they would see in the
woods around there. And then nearby is Lake Lure where
people would talk about seeing some kind of a lake monster.
And then there's the Lake Lure Inn, which is extremely
haunted and as a matter of fact, one of the
best ghost photos I've ever seen was taken there. I
believe there was a wedding, and I don't have the
(05:31):
picture of my fingertips, but when the picture developed from
this wedding reception, there was a very clear apparition of
a little boy standing there. I could go on and
on telling you stories about Chimney Rock in that area.
In fact, there used to be a spot there that
I don't think it's accessible to the public anymore. I
(05:52):
think it was called like the Bottomless Pool, a big, big,
deep hole, and there was a waterfall you know there.
I guess there were waterfalls that would come down from
the mountains, and at one point there's this big black
hole looks like a black scrying mirror, and they have
plumbed it so deep, and last I heard, they never
(06:13):
found the bottom of it. I need to go back
and look more into that. But I don't want to
get too far off track here, because when I was
doing research for a pet Ghost, I discovered that going
all the way back as early as the well the
early eighteen hundreds, people were seeing these massive spiritual scenes
(06:37):
play out in the sky over Chimney Rock. And so
I wrote about this a little bit, just a paragraph
or two in pet Ghost. But then days ago I
received an email. I'm on the newsletter list from Fate Magazine,
and if you're not on the Fate Magazine newsletter list,
(06:58):
you should definitely do it dot com f A T. E.
M A G. Fatemag dot com. I've known Phyllis Galdy
for a long time. She's a wonderful person. As a
matter of fact, I invited her to come and be
a speaker at one of my conferences at the Grove
Park End back of the day, and she liked the
area so much she ended up moving to western North Carolina.
(07:19):
And this article that came to my email is called
the Chimney Rock Apparitions, And so I was eager to
jump in and read this because it has got details
that I didn't know about before. And it appears that
this article was originally published in North Carolina Ghosts dot com.
(07:41):
So I contacted Phyllis and asked if it was okay
for me to read this, and she said absolutely. As
a matter of fact. Unfortunately, in the fall of twoenty
twenty four, when the massive flooding hit western North Carolina,
Chimney Rock and Lake Lore, that area was one of
(08:02):
the most terribly damaged. And so, you know, it's nice
to I mean, they're obviously rebuilding stuff and restoring everything,
but I imagine they would appreciate having tourism there to
help get the economy kicking again. So here's this article
that I think it's just I think it's kind of
(08:23):
mesmerizing you think about this, going back to the idea
of ghost writers in the sky. So here it is
from the fatemag dot com post. It says the Chimney
Rock Apparitions. Chimney Rock, a high stone outcropping near Ashville
that can be seen for miles, was the site of
one of the oddest series of events ever recorded in
(08:45):
North Carolina. In the first few years of the nineteenth century,
residents around the rock reported a number of unusual sightings,
including angelic hosts and an aerial battle between armies on
winged horses. The story begins on July thirty first of
eighteen o six, when eight year old Elizabeth Reeves, whose
(09:10):
family lived in Buncom County near Chimney Rock, told her
older brother that she had seen a man on top
of Chimney Rock. Now, in the days before rock climbing
was a hobby, this would have been unheard of. Her
brother refused to believe her, but when she persuaded him
to go look, young Morgan Reeves saw not just one,
(09:34):
but thousands of people flying through the air around Chimney Rock.
The people the Reeves children saw were described as being
clothed and brilliant white, ranging in size from infant to adult. Now,
while they were generally human in shape, the children could
make out no distinct features, and there was no clear
(09:58):
differentiation in a gender. The children called to their mother,
Patsy Reeves, who came running. All in all, six people
saw the apparition. In addition to Elizabeth Morgan and missus
Patsy Reeves, the youngest Reeves's daughter, Polly A. Neighbor, mister
Robert Searcy, and an African American woman who is unnamed
(10:22):
in the original reports all spent the next hour watching
a strange spectacle unfold. The crowd of beings rose to
the top of Chimney Rock, and when all but a
few had gathered there, three members of the crowd rose
up above the others hover there, and then led the
(10:43):
congregation of shining beings up through the air to disappear
into the heavens. The account of this strange apparition was
printed a few weeks later in the Raleigh Register and Gazette,
and then Sighted Again and Edward Augustus Kids a book
called Travels through the Northern Parts of the United States
(11:04):
in the years eighteen oh seven and eighteen oh eight.
Now you may say, Josh, that's interesting, but what does
that have to do with ghost riders in the sky? Well,
that's the rest of the story. So this starts with
people seeing humanoid figures sort of hovering and floating around
(11:25):
and above the rock. But when we come back from
this break, I'm going to tell you about the most
dramatic spectral vision that appears, and this one is full
of cavalry. Those horses that you can imagine those ghost
riders in the sky. This is an interesting, interesting topic
(11:49):
we have to like, I say, take a break, and
you know what, Sometimes you might feel like you're stuck
in a rut and you need some extra magic in
your life. You need some good fortune, you need things
to change, you need things to improve. Well, you do
yourself a favorite. Go to Joshua P. Warren dot com.
(12:10):
There's no period after the P when you go to
Joshua pe Warren dot com and check out the things
in the Curiosity Shop. Don't even if you don't buy something.
Just look at the things there and maybe you'll get
some ideas. But regardless, go to my homepage and sign
up for my free and spam free e newsletter. Take
you two seconds. You put your email address in there,
(12:32):
submit and you will instantly receive an automated email from
me with links to some free online goodies that will
help you start making your life magical. Right now, Joshua
Pwarren dot com. I am Joshua P. Warren, and you
are listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network and die. We'll be
(12:54):
right back, Welcome back to Strange Things all the iHeartRadio
(13:34):
and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. I
am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren.
Beat me into your worm whole brain from my studio
in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is
golden and every night is silver. A giatato zoom. And
(13:55):
here in Las Vegas, you probably know, we have a
little Chihuahua named Dolly. Everybody loves her. She's very sweet. However,
she sheds a lot, and so I don't usually sleep
with her in the bedroom because it's just too bad
(14:18):
for my allergies. About a while back, you know, I
don't know what was going on. I was a home alone,
and I was gonna go ahead and sit down. And
I guess I was gonna lay down, take a nap
or something. So I go, all right, come on. I
could tell she wanted to get up and next to
me in the bed. Okay, So I closed the bedroom door.
(14:38):
Dolly lays there next to me. Just as I'm dozing off.
Suddenly she jerks up. Her eyes bugg yeah, her ears
laid back, and she's staring at that door. At that
bedroom door, and I'm like, what's going on here? What
does she see? She was frozen, Then she relaxed, went
(15:03):
back to laying down, calm. I was like, ugh. Thirty
seconds later, boo. Once again, she jerks up, eyes bugging
yours laid back. At this point, it's scaring the hell
out of me because I'm looking at that door and
I'm expecting Jason Vorhees to come blasting through with a
(15:25):
machete at any moment, and I'm like, is she sing
something that I'm not seeing? Well, look, I didn't even
go check, but I don't think I'm going to be
sleeping with a dog anymore because I don't know what
she's seeing, But sleeping with a dog in the room
(15:45):
can scare the crap out of you. She looks like
she's always seeing something creepy there in the room that
I probably don't even want to know about. As a
matter of fact, I believe that there is a movie
that recently came out. I've only I think I saw
the just a trailer at some point called good Boy.
Not watch this movie, of course, but I understand it's
(16:08):
sort of like featuring a haunted house from the perspective
of the dog that lives in the haunted house. What
a novel concept. So yeah, you may want to think
twice about having a creature in your bed that can
sense supernatural phenomenon when you're trying to get some rest.
(16:32):
Let's get back to the article. So I was telling
you about this incident in eighteen six Chimney Rock, North Carolina.
But here's the part where we get into the ghost
writers in the sky. Several years later, in eighteen eleven,
another perhaps even more strange apparition appeared by Chimney Rock
(16:52):
when a pair of armies riding tiny winged horses met
in a fierce battle in the air. Over the course
of several evenings and the summer of that year, multiple
witnesses in different locations saw two opposing bands of cavalry
riding winged horses, circling each other in the sky. On
(17:15):
the final evening, the two armies finally engaged each other
and clashed in the sky over Chimney Rock. The spectral
cavalrymen were armed with swords, and witnesses said they could
hear of the distant sounds of clashing metal and the
groans of the wounded. The battle lasted only about ten minutes,
(17:37):
at the end of which the defeated army retreated and
the victorious army disappeared into the darkness. Newspapers across the
state carried reports of this strange battle. A public meeting
was held in Rutherforton, and public speculations soon settled on
the idea that the battle was a divine vision of
highlights from the not so far distant Revolutionary War. Why
(18:02):
exactly the laws of space and time would be bent
so spectacularly to give a handful of spectators an early
version of the History Channel wasn't really questioned, but people
had more faith than democracy in those days. Why Chimney
Rock was host to such supernatural spectacle in two centuries ago,
(18:26):
and whether anything like it will be seen again, remains
a mystery today. However, Chimney Rock is a state park
and the certainty of the spectacle of natural beauty awaits visitors.
Well can you imagine such a sight again? Thanks to
Philis Galdy fatemag dot com as well as North Carolina
(18:47):
Ghosts dot com, Uh yeah, I mean I've been to
Chimney Rock many times and I always stare up at
the clouds waiting for them to churn and show me
something like that. I'm not sure what to make of it.
It definitely reminds me, though, of the valkyries. You know
what the valkyries are. According to Norse mythology, Valkyries are
(19:15):
these women, these spectral women who ride through the sky
on horseback, especially during a battle, you know, when there's
some kind of a war going on. They're they're up
in the sky and they're looking down and seeing how everybody,
how all the soldiers are performing, and they are picking
(19:40):
the most valiant warriors, and they are taking the spirit
of that warrior if he is slain, up into the
air to Valhalla. So they select fallen warriors to be
brought to Odin's Hall Valhalla. So it's a great honor.
(20:01):
And so let's see, I'm reading more about this here.
The deceased warriors become einhersjar once fighters, and it says
when they are not preparing for the catasclismic events of Ragnarok,
the valkyries bear them mead. Valkyries appear also as lovers
(20:24):
of heroes and other mortals, where they are sometimes described
as the daughters of royalty, and sometimes they're accompanied by
ravens and sometimes connected to swans or horses. If you
have heard of a valkyrie, it's probably because of the
famous piece of music that was composed by the German
(20:46):
Wagner called the Ride of the Valkyries, and it looks
like he wrote it in eighteen fifty one. I know
you've heard this. It's one of the most famous pieces
of music in the world. As a matter of fact,
I found this public domain recording of Ride of the
Valkyries that was performed in nineteen twenty one, yes, over
(21:10):
one hundred years ago by the American Symphony Orchestra for
Edison Records. I'm going to play a little bit of
that for you, not only because it's fitting, but it's
just really interesting to think about hearing a performance from
over one hundred years ago. Here is part of Wagner's
(21:30):
Ride of the Valkyries. Killed a rabbit, killed a Rabit
(22:41):
killed a webit. I know some of you were thinking
about that, weren't you killed a rabbit? Looney Tunes used
to have fun with that. Elmer Fudd always trying to
down bugs, bunny. But you know, it's quite fascinating to
(23:06):
think about how many of these grand specters have been
reported in the skies, especially when it comes to that
old European culture. There's a tradition called the Wild Hunt,
and it refers to these ancient, widespread European beliefs about
some kind of a spectral hunting party, again often associated
(23:29):
with the Norse god Odin, and a group of elves
that can be seen storming for the sky as an
omen of doom. Says here, it's a supernatural procession of
ghostly hunters, often led by a god or a spectral figure.
(23:50):
The gallops across the land or through the night sky.
But it says it actually has roots that can go
all the way back to ancient Greek traditions. And if
you look up and you see the wild Hunt, well
it's considered a powerful omen for telling war, famine, or
(24:12):
other disasters. So you hope that you do not see that.
But you know, if you just type in like what
spirits are seen riding in the sky, there are tons
of there. We have the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
They are often envisioned that way. And okay, clock has
(24:33):
got us a little bit here in time for a break.
When we come back, I'm gonna tell you a little
bit more about some of these specters in the sky,
including one that is absolutely real. This is a mystery
that has been solved, but it's still quite spectacular. And
this is something that you may even be lucky enough
to see yourself someday. And then I'm gonna switch gears
(24:55):
a little bit and talk about an odd story that
I recently can him across about a woman and uh well, liquid, Well,
let's just say a woman and mercury. How about that.
I'm Joshua PE Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
(25:17):
and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back
(25:57):
to Strange Things on the Eye Art Radio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
I just imagine that you are by yourself, hiking in
(26:20):
the wilderness, maybe on top of a large, beautiful mountain,
and maybe it's kind of a cool morning, a little
bit of fog in the air, and as you're walking
along there, breathing in all the scenery, you turn and
(26:41):
are absolutely shocked and terrified to see that as you
look over the edge of a cliff, there before you,
out in the air is a gigantic human form, a
silo hundreds of feet tall, maybe even bigger. You see
(27:06):
this gigantic human silhouette there, and it even moves. In fact,
it seems to possibly be interactive. You feel like a
tiny ant next to this thing. Well, this is a
real phenomenon, and it has happened since the beginning of time,
and often someone would see this gigantic thing, this form,
(27:32):
and then turn and flee. You can see why. Well,
it turns out this is a rare but very real
natural phenomenon that we know as the specter of Brocken.
And that's because this phenomenon happens a lot on the
(27:55):
highest peak of the Hearts Mountains in Germany. The highest
peak there is called the Brocken and it has the
conditions there are often just right. What happens is as
you're walking along, and it says the best conditions are
if you happen to be in a position where the
(28:17):
sun is in the right spot behind you, and you
look down onto a misty or foggy surface such as
a cloud bank, or a fog layer below a mountain peak.
Then you can actually see your own shadow projected and
magnified into the sky before you. And if you're not
(28:40):
expecting that, then yeah, it can scare the be Jesus
out of you, says The ideal conditions include a high
altitude location like a mountaintop, a thick fog or cloud layer,
and the sun low in the sky as an early
morning or late afternoon. A successful viewing will show your
magnified shadows surrounded by a colorful circular halo called a glory. Wow,
(29:07):
wouldn't that be something to see? And if you don't,
if you've never heard of this, I mean, you can
get online and you'll see people who have videotaped this.
I'm sure that the video or the video recordings don't
do it justice there. How could it? But Brocken is
spelled b r O c k e N, So look
(29:29):
up specter of Brocken or Brocken specter. And this is
something that you know, I heard about long ago when
I was doing my ghost research. And how that you know,
for the longest time it was sort of like one
of those rumors. People didn't know if it was real
or not. It was kind of like some thought of
it as as a myth. Uh. It reminds me of
how when I was in Puerto Rico, people would talk
(29:51):
about how that sometimes if you were on the beach
and you got lucky, right as the sun was setting,
you would see a green flash just last a split second.
And I went out I don't even know how many
times trying to see the green flash. I never saw it,
and I wondered if it was just maloney. But sure enough,
it's real, and not too long ago, some photographers actually
(30:13):
finally captured the green flash. So that just goes to
show you there are very real, amazing things that happen
in this world that are just simply rare. I mean,
we call something paranormal because it's beyond normal, right, it's
para normal, beyond normal. So anyway, yeah, so the Brocken Spectr,
(30:34):
that's something that you might want to look up and
think about. But you know, when it comes to this
idea of ghost writers in the sky, I mean, look
at Santa Claus. Santa Claus is kind of like a
ghost writer in the sky. Some people have wondered if
UFOs in general are sometimes not craft but actually are
some kind of ghostly phenomenon. And I've talked a lot
(30:58):
about how that, you know, if you start looking at
UFOs as say, a technology, as opposed to some type
of a spiritual phenomenon, you always come across these stories
about liquid mercury being used and you know, like as
(31:18):
part of an engine. And that's one of the things
that I included in my Psionotron portal opening project as well.
And recently I came across this interesting story that I
wanted to show, uh, wanted to share with you. Let's
see here I was. I was on I think I
(31:39):
was on Amazon, and I was watching some kind of
a documentary, at least part of it, and it's called Skin,
A History of Nudity in the movies. Now look, I
this is. I watched this purely for educational purposes, and
they started talking about this woman named Audrey Munson. Have
you ever heard of her? I bring this up because
(32:02):
that when I was in Belize, and you've heard me
talk about this before, and I was studying the strange
things that have been found around some of those old
Mayan villages, it seemed like that they worshiped liquid mercury.
There's something very special about liquid mercury. And I was
(32:26):
told by my guide, who was a descendant of the Mayans,
that if you were to be a shaman back in
the day, that you had to pass this incredible test.
At a certain point, you would have to inject liquid
mercury into the vein on your arm. And this would
(32:47):
easily kill many people, maybe even most people, and certainly
make them very, very sick. And a lot of people
did die when they did it, but as it turns out,
in some cases, the shaman would survive, and at that
point he became a full fled shaman because apparently he
had faced death, he had overcome it, and then they
(33:09):
would live a very, very long life and they would
have all kinds of spiritual insights. And this relates to
this Audrey Munson story because Audrey Munson is actually considered
the first supermodel in America. She was born in eighteen
ninety one, Audrey Marie Munson. She was born in Rochester,
(33:34):
New York, and in her time she was incredibly famous.
She was known as Miss Manhattan, the Panama Pacific Girl,
the Exposition Girl. She was the model or inspiration for
more than twelve statues in New York City and many
others elsewhere. She appeared in four silent films, and she
(33:58):
was one of the first American actresses to appear nude
in a non pornographic film. They get into that in
the documentary how that you know? That was like obviously
pretty pretty shocking to be nude on camera, and she
helped to sort of like break that barrier. And so
(34:20):
she became incredibly famous all over the country for sculptures
in which she's immortalized today. And let's see here, somebody
says this was published in nineteen fifteen, says, long after
she and everyone else of this generation, she'll have become dust.
Audrey Munson, who posed for three fifths of all the
(34:43):
statuary of the Panama Pacific Exposition, will live in the
bronzes and canvases of the art centers of the world.
She was a huge success. And yet as she got older,
I guess that typical story, they started finding her less
and less desire, and then finally she became very depressed,
and when she was thirty one years old, she decided
(35:06):
to drink mercury and commit suicide, says May twenty seventh,
nineteen twenty two. Munson attempted suicide by swallowing a solution
of bichloride of mercury. She drank this mercury when she
was thirty one years old, but she didn't die, and
(35:28):
in fact, she was then afterward put into an asylum,
even though everybody said her mind was still very, very sharp,
and she said some very strange, profound things. And she
lived until nineteen ninety six, and she died at the
age of one hundred and four in Ogdensburg, New York.
(35:52):
Born eighteen ninety one, died nineteen ninety six. And I
have wondered if this may be a more modern example
of how that if you take mercury into your system.
And I'm certainly never advising anybody to do this, but
it's interesting, given what I was told about what the
Mayans used to do, is it possible that when you
(36:13):
take this mercury and if you survive, then there's something
that reinforces you and you can, you know, live a
long time. Her story is one of so many crazy
ups and downs. I mean, she got involved with I
think one guy who ended up being like a murder
or something, and then he got executed. I can't even
(36:34):
remember all the things. But you know, on a podcast,
I just try to like toss stuff out there to you.
If you find it interesting, you can look up more
of it on your own. But yeah, somebody should make
a movie about Audrey Munson. But I just found that
really interesting that she was able to live to be
that old after taking the Mercury. Okay, time for a break.
(36:59):
When we come back, here is the plan. I think
I'm going to try to read a listener email that's
quite interesting regarding something that I talked about before with
EMF blocking technology, like EMF blocking stickers and the legitimacy
of all that. And then what do you say we
wrap up the show with a couple of spooky stories,
(37:22):
a couple of creepy little tells. I mean, it's it's
been that kind of a show, right. I'm Joshua PEE Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
(38:25):
edition of Strange Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P.
Warren and yes, of course I keep an open mind.
It's good to have an open mind, just not so
open that your brains fall out. And I hear all
(38:50):
kinds of extraordinary claims all the time, and whenever I can,
I try to test them out. I mean, I if
it's possible for me to take something that someone is
claiming and adapt it into some kind of an experiment
with you know, objective controls and all that, I will
try to do it. Now that certainly does not mean
(39:11):
you're going to get the ultimate scoop on reality, because
a lot of reality is just your subjective experience. But
I try, and you know, I obviously just because I
get a result, and one case doesn't mean it's it's absolute,
because maybe there are other variables to try out. While
I say all this because people do contact me sometimes
(39:32):
and they say, there's this pendit they're selling that blocks
harmful EMFs or like electromagnetic fields, maybe from a cell
phone or a radio tower that's near your house, or
even just the consumer electronics. Some people say they're agitated
by that. I once went to the house of a
man who said he could not be anywhere near an
(39:53):
electromagnetic field. He had aluminum foil all over the walls
like wallpaper. And what's funny. I did a test with
him and I made him turn around, close his eyes,
and I had a cordless phone and I would see
if he could tell when I was turning on the
phone and it was transmitting with his back turn. Then
(40:14):
he could not. So humans are not supposed to really
be that sensitive to most of these electromagnetic fields. But
there are people who sell stickers and they say you
can put this sticker on a phone or whatever, and
it's supposed to block EMFs. And so I recently did
some experiments with this. I talked about it on the show,
and I said that I could not document using instrumentation
(40:38):
any evidence that these things actually do work and block stuff.
But here is an email I want to share with
you I got from Pauline and Tennessee, and Pauline wrote,
after hearing me talk about this, she said, she says
there are all kinds of stickers out there and they
claim to harmonize EMFs from various devices. They do not
(41:02):
change the actual electromagnetic fields coming from the devices. However,
some of them change the subtle energy fields around the devices.
The subtle energy fields around the devices interfere with the
subtle energy fields around the body. An EMF detecting device
does not measure the subtle energy fields. The only things
(41:23):
that work to measure subtle energy fields are specialized pendulums
or muscle response testing. Pauling goes on to say everyone
almost muscle tests weak when their smartphone is against their ear.
Not all stickers work to harmonize the subtle energies around smartphones,
but some of them actually do. And when you muscle
(41:45):
test someone with a sticker corrected smartphone on their ear,
they muscle test strong. I know all this because I
have been to various shows where I do free muscle
testing of people with their smartphones on their ear. Everyone
tests weak. Then I say an intention to their phone seriously,
and after that they test strong for it. This can
(42:05):
also be done by distance over the phone. I could
tell you a lot more, but you get a lot
of emails, so I will stop here. I could give
you my website, but I'm sure you probably wouldn't go
to it because of wanting to protect your computer. Okay,
the one person who bases his whole being around subtle
energies is Ibraham Kareem. That last name is called ka
(42:28):
i am Ibraham Kareem of Egypt, whose bio geometry courses
are quite popular and almost mainstream at this point. He
has a number of books on the subject. So I
don't know if your friend stickers affect the subtle energies
of phones, but they could find someone to muscle test
you with or without the sticker, and you can find out.
(42:48):
And then Pauline says, thanks for the podcast. I enjoy it. Well,
thank you, Pauline. I appreciate your feedback. And long long
ago I experimented. I started experimenting with muscle testing. Was
it kinesiology or canesthesiology? I can't remember the term that
has often used. But I respect what you're saying. I
think it's a good that I put it out there
for everybody to listen to. But the problem is it's
(43:14):
so subjective that you know you have the placebo effect
to deal with. And I mean, I think it would
be interesting if you actually did some experiments where you
take people and you tell them to hold the phone
up and some of the phones are dummy phones that
are not producing any kind of EMF and some of
(43:37):
them are real phones, and see if you can consistently
predict it that way. That's how sort of I would
approach that. But anyway, food for thought, another point of
view to pass along. Okay, how about uh, let's see
if I can squeeze in a couple of creepy little tails.
Here is an email I got from Charlie in Brandenburg, Kentucky.
(44:00):
This is where let's see this happened to him in
nineteen eighty. He says. When I was a small child,
my family was not very wealthy, so we stayed at
my grandmother's to save money in order to move. I
shared a king size bed. Let's see her. I shared
(44:21):
a king size bed with my mother and father, so,
needless to say, it was hard to sleep at times.
I remember one night in particular, my mother and I
were up late talking while my father snored loudly next
to us. Out of nowhere, we both started hearing the
faint sound of a woman's voice. She was trying to
(44:41):
say something. We immediately stopped talking to listen more closely.
The voice was approaching us, so Mom woke Dad up
for him to hear. He said it was just a
dog and to go back to sleep, But as it
got near the open window, we could hear it more clearly.
It was saying, help me, help me. My dad heard it,
(45:06):
jumped up and yelled at it. It left the house
through the window, and whatever it was, you could hear
it running through the tall weeds toward the cemetery. The
next day we went to put flowers on my grandfather's grave,
and the ones that were previously there had been moved
(45:26):
to a lady's grave who died in a tornado in
nineteen seventy four. Her name was Martha son son N
and her kids were all taken by the tornado. My
mother was friends of the Sun's There's no doubt in
my mind that the voice we all heard was that
(45:50):
of Martha's son looking for her kids. How about one more?
This kind of fits right, and I think to the
idea of the specters in the sky. This is from
Bobby Selma, North Carolina incident that happened around nineteen ninety.
(46:11):
I was born and raised in North Carolina, though I
have since moved away. As a child, my father and
mother were concerned about the storms, especially the tornadoes and
hurricanes that would hit the area we lived in. Interesting, right,
tornado comes up again, He says, we would regularly load
up the car with my brother, mother, father, and myself
(46:32):
and head to the hospital to ride out a storm.
On this particular night, at approximately eight or nine pm,
we all got in the car and decided to wait
and see what happened with the weather before leaving. I
was in the back on the passenger side. Dad was
driving with Mom beside him, and my brother was beside me.
(46:55):
The lightning was really bad, as was the rain. I
had a small pillow with me that I always brought
along that was sitting on my lap. After about ten minutes,
I looked out my window up at the clouds, and
in the split second it took the lightning to splinter
(47:16):
across the sky. I saw ten soldiers soldiers in the sky.
Four were in the front kneeling and four were standing
behind them, flanked on each side with one more kneeling man.
(47:36):
I immediately buried my face in the pillow on my
lap and started hysterically sobbing and screaming. To this day,
I've never seen anything like it, and I've only told
four people of this until now. You know, if thank you,
thank you very much for sending that in Charlie into
(48:01):
and also let's see Charlie and Bobby. Yeah, you know.
Here's the thing. It's like, if you could be standing
on a mountain and the conditions are just right to
project the specter of Brocken out there, is it possible
(48:22):
that if there are ghosts here on this earthly plane,
that the conditions can be just right and also sort
of project those ghosts into the sky. Maybe they're not
in the sky, maybe they get projected into the sky.
Oh boy, if your head's not spinning yet, just keep
thinking about it. But it is time for us to
(48:44):
wrap up this show. I think you know what we
like to do. If you can take a deep breath
and close your eyes, relax and listen to the good
Fortune tone. That's it for this edition of the show.
(49:20):
Follow me at Joshua P. Warren. Plus visit Joshua Pwarren
dot com to sign up for my free e newsletter
to receive a free instant gift, and check out the
cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop. All at Joshuapwarren dot com.
I have a fun one lined up for you next time,
I promise, So please tell all your friends to subscribe
(49:44):
to this show and to always remember the Golden Rule.
Thank you for listening, Thank you for your interest and support.
Thank you for staying curious, and I will talk to
you again soon. You've been listening to Strange Things on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait
till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening
to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal
podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with
Joshua P. Warn.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and
opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions
only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast
to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors
and associates. We would like to encourage you to do
(00:34):
your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. This
is Strange with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua be Warren,
and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new my gloving content, news exercises, and weird experiments
(01:18):
you can do at home, and a lot more on
this edition of the show ghost Writers in the Sky
and The Strange Case of Audrey Munson. I am recording
this show in one of my favorite parts of the year, October.
(01:42):
I was watching a video the other day with the
late great comedian Rodney Danger film. He said, I tell
you I know I'm ugly. Halloween. I opened the front door.
Kids give me candy, and I enjoy especially this time
of year, of course, playing spooky songs. I've got my
(02:06):
whole playlist. One of my favorites is the classic Western
called ghost Writers in the Sky. It was I guess.
It was originally published in around nineteen forty nine, sung
by Vaughn Monroe, and then later Johnny Cash did a
(02:29):
version of it. You know that song. Their brands were
still on fire, and their hooves were made of steel,
their horns were black and shiny, and their hot breath
he could feel a botafar with threw him as they
thundered through the sky. Before he saw the writers coming
hard and you heard their mournful cry ipii IPII ghost
(02:51):
Riders in the Sky. Well, I've always enjoyed thinking about
that and the the the image that it creates of
looking up into the sky and seeing a ghostly phenomenon
on a grand, vast scale. And one thing that really
(03:15):
surprised me was something that I discovered when I was
writing my book many years ago called Pet Ghosts Animal
Encounters from Beyond the Grave. This book came out in
let's see two thousand and six. My goodness, it's been
almost twenty years hard to believe. Dedicated to my wife Lauren.
(03:41):
As a matter of fact, And when I was writing this,
of course, I was looking at all kinds of animal ghosts,
what I call fantibles, and when I was looking into horses,
I found this story that was again surprising story about
Chimney Rock, North Carolina. Now, of course I was born
(04:04):
and raised in western North Carolina, and Chimney Rock is
one of the most mystical and magical places that I've
ever explored. There's a village called Chimney Rock and it's
right there at the Chimney Rock State Park. It's called
that because there is this Okay, you're down in this
(04:25):
sort of scenic I guess it's a sort of a valley,
and you look up and you see this three hundred
and fifteen foot stone monolith there towering above everything with
a big American flag waving, and that's Chimney Rock. You
can imagine what it looks like if you've never seen it.
Look up Chimney Rock, North Carolina. There's an elevator that
(04:48):
will take you up there, and the view of the
countryside is just it's just breathtaking. And Chimney Rock has
always been associated with mystical and paranormal phenomena. I remember
growing up, I first started hearing about all the little
people that had been seen in that area, and then
(05:10):
also fairies people say that they would see in the
woods around there. And then nearby is Lake Lure where
people would talk about seeing some kind of a lake monster.
And then there's the Lake Lure Inn, which is extremely
haunted and as a matter of fact, one of the
best ghost photos I've ever seen was taken there. I
believe there was a wedding, and I don't have the
(05:31):
picture of my fingertips, but when the picture developed from
this wedding reception, there was a very clear apparition of
a little boy standing there. I could go on and
on telling you stories about Chimney Rock in that area.
In fact, there used to be a spot there that
I don't think it's accessible to the public anymore. I
(05:52):
think it was called like the Bottomless Pool, a big, big,
deep hole, and there was a waterfall you know there.
I guess there were waterfalls that would come down from
the mountains, and at one point there's this big black
hole looks like a black scrying mirror, and they have
plumbed it so deep, and last I heard, they never
(06:13):
found the bottom of it. I need to go back
and look more into that. But I don't want to
get too far off track here, because when I was
doing research for a pet Ghost, I discovered that going
all the way back as early as the well the
early eighteen hundreds, people were seeing these massive spiritual scenes
(06:37):
play out in the sky over Chimney Rock. And so
I wrote about this a little bit, just a paragraph
or two in pet Ghost. But then days ago I
received an email. I'm on the newsletter list from Fate Magazine,
and if you're not on the Fate Magazine newsletter list,
(06:58):
you should definitely do it dot com f A T. E.
M A G. Fatemag dot com. I've known Phyllis Galdy
for a long time. She's a wonderful person. As a
matter of fact, I invited her to come and be
a speaker at one of my conferences at the Grove
Park End back of the day, and she liked the
area so much she ended up moving to western North Carolina.
(07:19):
And this article that came to my email is called
the Chimney Rock Apparitions, And so I was eager to
jump in and read this because it has got details
that I didn't know about before. And it appears that
this article was originally published in North Carolina Ghosts dot com.
(07:41):
So I contacted Phyllis and asked if it was okay
for me to read this, and she said absolutely. As
a matter of fact. Unfortunately, in the fall of twoenty
twenty four, when the massive flooding hit western North Carolina,
Chimney Rock and Lake Lore, that area was one of
(08:02):
the most terribly damaged. And so, you know, it's nice
to I mean, they're obviously rebuilding stuff and restoring everything,
but I imagine they would appreciate having tourism there to
help get the economy kicking again. So here's this article
that I think it's just I think it's kind of
(08:23):
mesmerizing you think about this, going back to the idea
of ghost writers in the sky. So here it is
from the fatemag dot com post. It says the Chimney
Rock Apparitions. Chimney Rock, a high stone outcropping near Ashville
that can be seen for miles, was the site of
one of the oddest series of events ever recorded in
(08:45):
North Carolina. In the first few years of the nineteenth century,
residents around the rock reported a number of unusual sightings,
including angelic hosts and an aerial battle between armies on
winged horses. The story begins on July thirty first of
eighteen o six, when eight year old Elizabeth Reeves, whose
(09:10):
family lived in Buncom County near Chimney Rock, told her
older brother that she had seen a man on top
of Chimney Rock. Now, in the days before rock climbing
was a hobby, this would have been unheard of. Her
brother refused to believe her, but when she persuaded him
to go look, young Morgan Reeves saw not just one,
(09:34):
but thousands of people flying through the air around Chimney Rock.
The people the Reeves children saw were described as being
clothed and brilliant white, ranging in size from infant to adult. Now,
while they were generally human in shape, the children could
make out no distinct features, and there was no clear
(09:58):
differentiation in a gender. The children called to their mother,
Patsy Reeves, who came running. All in all, six people
saw the apparition. In addition to Elizabeth Morgan and missus
Patsy Reeves, the youngest Reeves's daughter, Polly A. Neighbor, mister
Robert Searcy, and an African American woman who is unnamed
(10:22):
in the original reports all spent the next hour watching
a strange spectacle unfold. The crowd of beings rose to
the top of Chimney Rock, and when all but a
few had gathered there, three members of the crowd rose
up above the others hover there, and then led the
(10:43):
congregation of shining beings up through the air to disappear
into the heavens. The account of this strange apparition was
printed a few weeks later in the Raleigh Register and Gazette,
and then Sighted Again and Edward Augustus Kids a book
called Travels through the Northern Parts of the United States
(11:04):
in the years eighteen oh seven and eighteen oh eight.
Now you may say, Josh, that's interesting, but what does
that have to do with ghost riders in the sky? Well,
that's the rest of the story. So this starts with
people seeing humanoid figures sort of hovering and floating around
(11:25):
and above the rock. But when we come back from
this break, I'm going to tell you about the most
dramatic spectral vision that appears, and this one is full
of cavalry. Those horses that you can imagine those ghost
riders in the sky. This is an interesting, interesting topic
(11:49):
we have to like, I say, take a break, and
you know what, Sometimes you might feel like you're stuck
in a rut and you need some extra magic in
your life. You need some good fortune, you need things
to change, you need things to improve. Well, you do
yourself a favorite. Go to Joshua P. Warren dot com.
(12:10):
There's no period after the P when you go to
Joshua pe Warren dot com and check out the things
in the Curiosity Shop. Don't even if you don't buy something.
Just look at the things there and maybe you'll get
some ideas. But regardless, go to my homepage and sign
up for my free and spam free e newsletter. Take
you two seconds. You put your email address in there,
(12:32):
submit and you will instantly receive an automated email from
me with links to some free online goodies that will
help you start making your life magical. Right now, Joshua
Pwarren dot com. I am Joshua P. Warren, and you
are listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network and die. We'll be
(12:54):
right back, Welcome back to Strange Things all the iHeartRadio
(13:34):
and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. I
am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren.
Beat me into your worm whole brain from my studio
in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is
golden and every night is silver. A giatato zoom. And
(13:55):
here in Las Vegas, you probably know, we have a
little Chihuahua named Dolly. Everybody loves her. She's very sweet. However,
she sheds a lot, and so I don't usually sleep
with her in the bedroom because it's just too bad
(14:18):
for my allergies. About a while back, you know, I
don't know what was going on. I was a home alone,
and I was gonna go ahead and sit down. And
I guess I was gonna lay down, take a nap
or something. So I go, all right, come on. I
could tell she wanted to get up and next to
me in the bed. Okay, So I closed the bedroom door.
(14:38):
Dolly lays there next to me. Just as I'm dozing off.
Suddenly she jerks up. Her eyes bugg yeah, her ears
laid back, and she's staring at that door. At that
bedroom door, and I'm like, what's going on here? What
does she see? She was frozen, Then she relaxed, went
(15:03):
back to laying down, calm. I was like, ugh. Thirty
seconds later, boo. Once again, she jerks up, eyes bugging
yours laid back. At this point, it's scaring the hell
out of me because I'm looking at that door and
I'm expecting Jason Vorhees to come blasting through with a
(15:25):
machete at any moment, and I'm like, is she sing
something that I'm not seeing? Well, look, I didn't even
go check, but I don't think I'm going to be
sleeping with a dog anymore because I don't know what
she's seeing, But sleeping with a dog in the room
(15:45):
can scare the crap out of you. She looks like
she's always seeing something creepy there in the room that
I probably don't even want to know about. As a
matter of fact, I believe that there is a movie
that recently came out. I've only I think I saw
the just a trailer at some point called good Boy.
Not watch this movie, of course, but I understand it's
(16:08):
sort of like featuring a haunted house from the perspective
of the dog that lives in the haunted house. What
a novel concept. So yeah, you may want to think
twice about having a creature in your bed that can
sense supernatural phenomenon when you're trying to get some rest.
(16:32):
Let's get back to the article. So I was telling
you about this incident in eighteen six Chimney Rock, North Carolina.
But here's the part where we get into the ghost
writers in the sky. Several years later, in eighteen eleven,
another perhaps even more strange apparition appeared by Chimney Rock
(16:52):
when a pair of armies riding tiny winged horses met
in a fierce battle in the air. Over the course
of several evenings and the summer of that year, multiple
witnesses in different locations saw two opposing bands of cavalry
riding winged horses, circling each other in the sky. On
(17:15):
the final evening, the two armies finally engaged each other
and clashed in the sky over Chimney Rock. The spectral
cavalrymen were armed with swords, and witnesses said they could
hear of the distant sounds of clashing metal and the
groans of the wounded. The battle lasted only about ten minutes,
(17:37):
at the end of which the defeated army retreated and
the victorious army disappeared into the darkness. Newspapers across the
state carried reports of this strange battle. A public meeting
was held in Rutherforton, and public speculations soon settled on
the idea that the battle was a divine vision of
highlights from the not so far distant Revolutionary War. Why
(18:02):
exactly the laws of space and time would be bent
so spectacularly to give a handful of spectators an early
version of the History Channel wasn't really questioned, but people
had more faith than democracy in those days. Why Chimney
Rock was host to such supernatural spectacle in two centuries ago,
(18:26):
and whether anything like it will be seen again, remains
a mystery today. However, Chimney Rock is a state park
and the certainty of the spectacle of natural beauty awaits visitors.
Well can you imagine such a sight again? Thanks to
Philis Galdy fatemag dot com as well as North Carolina
(18:47):
Ghosts dot com, Uh yeah, I mean I've been to
Chimney Rock many times and I always stare up at
the clouds waiting for them to churn and show me
something like that. I'm not sure what to make of it.
It definitely reminds me, though, of the valkyries. You know
what the valkyries are. According to Norse mythology, Valkyries are
(19:15):
these women, these spectral women who ride through the sky
on horseback, especially during a battle, you know, when there's
some kind of a war going on. They're they're up
in the sky and they're looking down and seeing how everybody,
how all the soldiers are performing, and they are picking
(19:40):
the most valiant warriors, and they are taking the spirit
of that warrior if he is slain, up into the
air to Valhalla. So they select fallen warriors to be
brought to Odin's Hall Valhalla. So it's a great honor.
(20:01):
And so let's see, I'm reading more about this here.
The deceased warriors become einhersjar once fighters, and it says
when they are not preparing for the catasclismic events of Ragnarok,
the valkyries bear them mead. Valkyries appear also as lovers
(20:24):
of heroes and other mortals, where they are sometimes described
as the daughters of royalty, and sometimes they're accompanied by
ravens and sometimes connected to swans or horses. If you
have heard of a valkyrie, it's probably because of the
famous piece of music that was composed by the German
(20:46):
Wagner called the Ride of the Valkyries, and it looks
like he wrote it in eighteen fifty one. I know
you've heard this. It's one of the most famous pieces
of music in the world. As a matter of fact,
I found this public domain recording of Ride of the
Valkyries that was performed in nineteen twenty one, yes, over
(21:10):
one hundred years ago by the American Symphony Orchestra for
Edison Records. I'm going to play a little bit of
that for you, not only because it's fitting, but it's
just really interesting to think about hearing a performance from
over one hundred years ago. Here is part of Wagner's
(21:30):
Ride of the Valkyries. Killed a rabbit, killed a Rabit
(22:41):
killed a webit. I know some of you were thinking
about that, weren't you killed a rabbit? Looney Tunes used
to have fun with that. Elmer Fudd always trying to
down bugs, bunny. But you know, it's quite fascinating to
(23:06):
think about how many of these grand specters have been
reported in the skies, especially when it comes to that
old European culture. There's a tradition called the Wild Hunt,
and it refers to these ancient, widespread European beliefs about
some kind of a spectral hunting party, again often associated
(23:29):
with the Norse god Odin, and a group of elves
that can be seen storming for the sky as an
omen of doom. Says here, it's a supernatural procession of
ghostly hunters, often led by a god or a spectral figure.
(23:50):
The gallops across the land or through the night sky.
But it says it actually has roots that can go
all the way back to ancient Greek traditions. And if
you look up and you see the wild Hunt, well
it's considered a powerful omen for telling war, famine, or
(24:12):
other disasters. So you hope that you do not see that.
But you know, if you just type in like what
spirits are seen riding in the sky, there are tons
of there. We have the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
They are often envisioned that way. And okay, clock has
(24:33):
got us a little bit here in time for a break.
When we come back, I'm gonna tell you a little
bit more about some of these specters in the sky,
including one that is absolutely real. This is a mystery
that has been solved, but it's still quite spectacular. And
this is something that you may even be lucky enough
to see yourself someday. And then I'm gonna switch gears
(24:55):
a little bit and talk about an odd story that
I recently can him across about a woman and uh well, liquid, Well,
let's just say a woman and mercury. How about that.
I'm Joshua PE Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
(25:17):
and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back
(25:57):
to Strange Things on the Eye Art Radio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
I just imagine that you are by yourself, hiking in
(26:20):
the wilderness, maybe on top of a large, beautiful mountain,
and maybe it's kind of a cool morning, a little
bit of fog in the air, and as you're walking
along there, breathing in all the scenery, you turn and
(26:41):
are absolutely shocked and terrified to see that as you
look over the edge of a cliff, there before you,
out in the air is a gigantic human form, a
silo hundreds of feet tall, maybe even bigger. You see
(27:06):
this gigantic human silhouette there, and it even moves. In fact,
it seems to possibly be interactive. You feel like a
tiny ant next to this thing. Well, this is a
real phenomenon, and it has happened since the beginning of time,
and often someone would see this gigantic thing, this form,
(27:32):
and then turn and flee. You can see why. Well,
it turns out this is a rare but very real
natural phenomenon that we know as the specter of Brocken.
And that's because this phenomenon happens a lot on the
(27:55):
highest peak of the Hearts Mountains in Germany. The highest
peak there is called the Brocken and it has the
conditions there are often just right. What happens is as
you're walking along, and it says the best conditions are
if you happen to be in a position where the
(28:17):
sun is in the right spot behind you, and you
look down onto a misty or foggy surface such as
a cloud bank, or a fog layer below a mountain peak.
Then you can actually see your own shadow projected and
magnified into the sky before you. And if you're not
(28:40):
expecting that, then yeah, it can scare the be Jesus
out of you, says The ideal conditions include a high
altitude location like a mountaintop, a thick fog or cloud layer,
and the sun low in the sky as an early
morning or late afternoon. A successful viewing will show your
magnified shadows surrounded by a colorful circular halo called a glory. Wow,
(29:07):
wouldn't that be something to see? And if you don't,
if you've never heard of this, I mean, you can
get online and you'll see people who have videotaped this.
I'm sure that the video or the video recordings don't
do it justice there. How could it? But Brocken is
spelled b r O c k e N, So look
(29:29):
up specter of Brocken or Brocken specter. And this is
something that you know, I heard about long ago when
I was doing my ghost research. And how that you know,
for the longest time it was sort of like one
of those rumors. People didn't know if it was real
or not. It was kind of like some thought of
it as as a myth. Uh. It reminds me of
how when I was in Puerto Rico, people would talk
(29:51):
about how that sometimes if you were on the beach
and you got lucky, right as the sun was setting,
you would see a green flash just last a split second.
And I went out I don't even know how many
times trying to see the green flash. I never saw it,
and I wondered if it was just maloney. But sure enough,
it's real, and not too long ago, some photographers actually
(30:13):
finally captured the green flash. So that just goes to
show you there are very real, amazing things that happen
in this world that are just simply rare. I mean,
we call something paranormal because it's beyond normal, right, it's
para normal, beyond normal. So anyway, yeah, so the Brocken Spectr,
(30:34):
that's something that you might want to look up and
think about. But you know, when it comes to this
idea of ghost writers in the sky, I mean, look
at Santa Claus. Santa Claus is kind of like a
ghost writer in the sky. Some people have wondered if
UFOs in general are sometimes not craft but actually are
some kind of ghostly phenomenon. And I've talked a lot
(30:58):
about how that, you know, if you start looking at
UFOs as say, a technology, as opposed to some type
of a spiritual phenomenon, you always come across these stories
about liquid mercury being used and you know, like as
(31:18):
part of an engine. And that's one of the things
that I included in my Psionotron portal opening project as well.
And recently I came across this interesting story that I
wanted to show, uh, wanted to share with you. Let's
see here I was. I was on I think I
(31:39):
was on Amazon, and I was watching some kind of
a documentary, at least part of it, and it's called Skin,
A History of Nudity in the movies. Now look, I
this is. I watched this purely for educational purposes, and
they started talking about this woman named Audrey Munson. Have
you ever heard of her? I bring this up because
(32:02):
that when I was in Belize, and you've heard me
talk about this before, and I was studying the strange
things that have been found around some of those old
Mayan villages, it seemed like that they worshiped liquid mercury.
There's something very special about liquid mercury. And I was
(32:26):
told by my guide, who was a descendant of the Mayans,
that if you were to be a shaman back in
the day, that you had to pass this incredible test.
At a certain point, you would have to inject liquid
mercury into the vein on your arm. And this would
(32:47):
easily kill many people, maybe even most people, and certainly
make them very, very sick. And a lot of people
did die when they did it, but as it turns out,
in some cases, the shaman would survive, and at that
point he became a full fled shaman because apparently he
had faced death, he had overcome it, and then they
(33:09):
would live a very, very long life and they would
have all kinds of spiritual insights. And this relates to
this Audrey Munson story because Audrey Munson is actually considered
the first supermodel in America. She was born in eighteen
ninety one, Audrey Marie Munson. She was born in Rochester,
(33:34):
New York, and in her time she was incredibly famous.
She was known as Miss Manhattan, the Panama Pacific Girl,
the Exposition Girl. She was the model or inspiration for
more than twelve statues in New York City and many
others elsewhere. She appeared in four silent films, and she
(33:58):
was one of the first American actresses to appear nude
in a non pornographic film. They get into that in
the documentary how that you know? That was like obviously
pretty pretty shocking to be nude on camera, and she
helped to sort of like break that barrier. And so
(34:20):
she became incredibly famous all over the country for sculptures
in which she's immortalized today. And let's see here, somebody
says this was published in nineteen fifteen, says, long after
she and everyone else of this generation, she'll have become dust.
Audrey Munson, who posed for three fifths of all the
(34:43):
statuary of the Panama Pacific Exposition, will live in the
bronzes and canvases of the art centers of the world.
She was a huge success. And yet as she got older,
I guess that typical story, they started finding her less
and less desire, and then finally she became very depressed,
and when she was thirty one years old, she decided
(35:06):
to drink mercury and commit suicide, says May twenty seventh,
nineteen twenty two. Munson attempted suicide by swallowing a solution
of bichloride of mercury. She drank this mercury when she
was thirty one years old, but she didn't die, and
(35:28):
in fact, she was then afterward put into an asylum,
even though everybody said her mind was still very, very sharp,
and she said some very strange, profound things. And she
lived until nineteen ninety six, and she died at the
age of one hundred and four in Ogdensburg, New York.
(35:52):
Born eighteen ninety one, died nineteen ninety six. And I
have wondered if this may be a more modern example
of how that if you take mercury into your system.
And I'm certainly never advising anybody to do this, but
it's interesting, given what I was told about what the
Mayans used to do, is it possible that when you
(36:13):
take this mercury and if you survive, then there's something
that reinforces you and you can, you know, live a
long time. Her story is one of so many crazy
ups and downs. I mean, she got involved with I
think one guy who ended up being like a murder
or something, and then he got executed. I can't even
(36:34):
remember all the things. But you know, on a podcast,
I just try to like toss stuff out there to you.
If you find it interesting, you can look up more
of it on your own. But yeah, somebody should make
a movie about Audrey Munson. But I just found that
really interesting that she was able to live to be
that old after taking the Mercury. Okay, time for a break.
(36:59):
When we come back, here is the plan. I think
I'm going to try to read a listener email that's
quite interesting regarding something that I talked about before with
EMF blocking technology, like EMF blocking stickers and the legitimacy
of all that. And then what do you say we
wrap up the show with a couple of spooky stories,
(37:22):
a couple of creepy little tells. I mean, it's it's
been that kind of a show, right. I'm Joshua PEE Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this
(38:25):
edition of Strange Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P.
Warren and yes, of course I keep an open mind.
It's good to have an open mind, just not so
open that your brains fall out. And I hear all
(38:50):
kinds of extraordinary claims all the time, and whenever I can,
I try to test them out. I mean, I if
it's possible for me to take something that someone is
claiming and adapt it into some kind of an experiment
with you know, objective controls and all that, I will
try to do it. Now that certainly does not mean
(39:11):
you're going to get the ultimate scoop on reality, because
a lot of reality is just your subjective experience. But
I try, and you know, I obviously just because I
get a result, and one case doesn't mean it's it's absolute,
because maybe there are other variables to try out. While
I say all this because people do contact me sometimes
(39:32):
and they say, there's this pendit they're selling that blocks
harmful EMFs or like electromagnetic fields, maybe from a cell
phone or a radio tower that's near your house, or
even just the consumer electronics. Some people say they're agitated
by that. I once went to the house of a
man who said he could not be anywhere near an
(39:53):
electromagnetic field. He had aluminum foil all over the walls
like wallpaper. And what's funny. I did a test with
him and I made him turn around, close his eyes,
and I had a cordless phone and I would see
if he could tell when I was turning on the
phone and it was transmitting with his back turn. Then
(40:14):
he could not. So humans are not supposed to really
be that sensitive to most of these electromagnetic fields. But
there are people who sell stickers and they say you
can put this sticker on a phone or whatever, and
it's supposed to block EMFs. And so I recently did
some experiments with this. I talked about it on the show,
and I said that I could not document using instrumentation
(40:38):
any evidence that these things actually do work and block stuff.
But here is an email I want to share with
you I got from Pauline and Tennessee, and Pauline wrote,
after hearing me talk about this, she said, she says
there are all kinds of stickers out there and they
claim to harmonize EMFs from various devices. They do not
(41:02):
change the actual electromagnetic fields coming from the devices. However,
some of them change the subtle energy fields around the devices.
The subtle energy fields around the devices interfere with the
subtle energy fields around the body. An EMF detecting device
does not measure the subtle energy fields. The only things
(41:23):
that work to measure subtle energy fields are specialized pendulums
or muscle response testing. Pauling goes on to say everyone
almost muscle tests weak when their smartphone is against their ear.
Not all stickers work to harmonize the subtle energies around smartphones,
but some of them actually do. And when you muscle
(41:45):
test someone with a sticker corrected smartphone on their ear,
they muscle test strong. I know all this because I
have been to various shows where I do free muscle
testing of people with their smartphones on their ear. Everyone
tests weak. Then I say an intention to their phone seriously,
and after that they test strong for it. This can
(42:05):
also be done by distance over the phone. I could
tell you a lot more, but you get a lot
of emails, so I will stop here. I could give
you my website, but I'm sure you probably wouldn't go
to it because of wanting to protect your computer. Okay,
the one person who bases his whole being around subtle
energies is Ibraham Kareem. That last name is called ka
(42:28):
i am Ibraham Kareem of Egypt, whose bio geometry courses
are quite popular and almost mainstream at this point. He
has a number of books on the subject. So I
don't know if your friend stickers affect the subtle energies
of phones, but they could find someone to muscle test
you with or without the sticker, and you can find out.
(42:48):
And then Pauline says, thanks for the podcast. I enjoy it. Well,
thank you, Pauline. I appreciate your feedback. And long long
ago I experimented. I started experimenting with muscle testing. Was
it kinesiology or canesthesiology? I can't remember the term that
has often used. But I respect what you're saying. I
think it's a good that I put it out there
for everybody to listen to. But the problem is it's
(43:14):
so subjective that you know you have the placebo effect
to deal with. And I mean, I think it would
be interesting if you actually did some experiments where you
take people and you tell them to hold the phone
up and some of the phones are dummy phones that
are not producing any kind of EMF and some of
(43:37):
them are real phones, and see if you can consistently
predict it that way. That's how sort of I would
approach that. But anyway, food for thought, another point of
view to pass along. Okay, how about uh, let's see
if I can squeeze in a couple of creepy little tails.
Here is an email I got from Charlie in Brandenburg, Kentucky.
(44:00):
This is where let's see this happened to him in
nineteen eighty. He says. When I was a small child,
my family was not very wealthy, so we stayed at
my grandmother's to save money in order to move. I
shared a king size bed. Let's see her. I shared
(44:21):
a king size bed with my mother and father, so,
needless to say, it was hard to sleep at times.
I remember one night in particular, my mother and I
were up late talking while my father snored loudly next
to us. Out of nowhere, we both started hearing the
faint sound of a woman's voice. She was trying to
(44:41):
say something. We immediately stopped talking to listen more closely.
The voice was approaching us, so Mom woke Dad up
for him to hear. He said it was just a
dog and to go back to sleep, But as it
got near the open window, we could hear it more clearly.
It was saying, help me, help me. My dad heard it,
(45:06):
jumped up and yelled at it. It left the house
through the window, and whatever it was, you could hear
it running through the tall weeds toward the cemetery. The
next day we went to put flowers on my grandfather's grave,
and the ones that were previously there had been moved
(45:26):
to a lady's grave who died in a tornado in
nineteen seventy four. Her name was Martha son son N
and her kids were all taken by the tornado. My
mother was friends of the Sun's There's no doubt in
my mind that the voice we all heard was that
(45:50):
of Martha's son looking for her kids. How about one more?
This kind of fits right, and I think to the
idea of the specters in the sky. This is from
Bobby Selma, North Carolina incident that happened around nineteen ninety.
(46:11):
I was born and raised in North Carolina, though I
have since moved away. As a child, my father and
mother were concerned about the storms, especially the tornadoes and
hurricanes that would hit the area we lived in. Interesting, right,
tornado comes up again, He says, we would regularly load
up the car with my brother, mother, father, and myself
(46:32):
and head to the hospital to ride out a storm.
On this particular night, at approximately eight or nine pm,
we all got in the car and decided to wait
and see what happened with the weather before leaving. I
was in the back on the passenger side. Dad was
driving with Mom beside him, and my brother was beside me.
(46:55):
The lightning was really bad, as was the rain. I
had a small pillow with me that I always brought
along that was sitting on my lap. After about ten minutes,
I looked out my window up at the clouds, and
in the split second it took the lightning to splinter
(47:16):
across the sky. I saw ten soldiers soldiers in the sky.
Four were in the front kneeling and four were standing
behind them, flanked on each side with one more kneeling man.
(47:36):
I immediately buried my face in the pillow on my
lap and started hysterically sobbing and screaming. To this day,
I've never seen anything like it, and I've only told
four people of this until now. You know, if thank you,
thank you very much for sending that in Charlie into
(48:01):
and also let's see Charlie and Bobby. Yeah, you know.
Here's the thing. It's like, if you could be standing
on a mountain and the conditions are just right to
project the specter of Brocken out there, is it possible
(48:22):
that if there are ghosts here on this earthly plane,
that the conditions can be just right and also sort
of project those ghosts into the sky. Maybe they're not
in the sky, maybe they get projected into the sky.
Oh boy, if your head's not spinning yet, just keep
thinking about it. But it is time for us to
(48:44):
wrap up this show. I think you know what we
like to do. If you can take a deep breath
and close your eyes, relax and listen to the good
Fortune tone. That's it for this edition of the show.
(49:20):
Follow me at Joshua P. Warren. Plus visit Joshua Pwarren
dot com to sign up for my free e newsletter
to receive a free instant gift, and check out the
cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop. All at Joshuapwarren dot com.
I have a fun one lined up for you next time,
I promise, So please tell all your friends to subscribe
(49:44):
to this show and to always remember the Golden Rule.
Thank you for listening, Thank you for your interest and support.
Thank you for staying curious, and I will talk to
you again soon. You've been listening to Strange Things on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait
till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening
to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
The Best of Coast to Coast AM News
Host
George Noory
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.