December 6, 2025 • 44 mins
Could the secrets of Antarctica be a larger cover-up than the UFO cover-up? Brad Olsen joins Captain Ron and argues that we would have UFO Disclosure if we were able to see what is hidden below the ice of Antarctica.
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Cases as we talked with the top experts. Welcome Beyond Contact.
I'm Captain Ron, and today we're speaking with Brad Olson.
Brad's a very busy guy. He's a publisher, producer, multi
award winning travel writer of ten books, including his Esoteric series,
Modern Esoteric, Future Esoteric, and Beyond Esoteric. He's appeared on
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many TV shows and live conferences, including of course, Contact
in the Desert. He's the founder and co producer of
How Weird Street Fair in San Francisco. That ten book
figure is about to become eleven with the release of
his latest book, Secrets of Antarctica, The Untold Story of Antarctica,
which covers many aspects of Antarctica, including the famous Admiral
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Richard Byrd's operation High Jump to confront the Nazi bas
and recover a Nazi flying disc. I've already had the
pleasure of reading it and it's a very very intriguing book.
Let's welcome Brad to the show. Hey Brad, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Hey Ron, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on,
and thank you for that wonderful endorsement of the book.
You read the entire thing I did republication, and you
gave me a great review for it that will appear
on page one of the book.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh that's great, man, I love it. Glad to help.
Let's take a quick minute before we dive into this
here and just talk about Antarctica itself, man, because you know,
back in twenty nineteen you took this trip of a
lifetime down there, and it's just so there's so many
fascinating elements. Just again, like I was telling you, just
straight up facts about the continent that I found just
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incredible that I just don't think most people know. Things
like it has the driest place on Earth. Nobody would
think that it's twice the size of the Contiguous forty eight.
It holds seventy percent of the fresh water on the planet.
It contains the most active volcano system in the world.
Who would know these things? It already sounds like science
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fiction to me, and I have not even mentioned that
it might hold the key to the whole UFO phenomenon.
What are your thoughts on this lost world down there?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Well, the back cover title headline says all roads lead
to Antarctica. Of course, no roads lead to Antarctica, but
disclosure could very well come from Antarctica. So there we
have what might be the biggest story in human history
if we were to really unravel what is below the ice,
what the Nazis were doing down there pre World War two,
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and by the way, they're still there. Linda Bolton Howe
had a great interview about two years ago where all
of these Germans were fleeing out of McMurdo base, Germans
speaking men and women in the middle of winter, which
is usually dead time there. The travel season only begins
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coming right up in November until March, because of course
the seasons are opposite down there, and that's when we
went down there. I went down there in a sailboat
with Emily Infinity and twelve others and spent about a
month on this boat going through Antarctica. As you said
in your setup, Ron, it is like another world down there.
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It's like going off planet because it's nothing that you'd
be familiar with here on Earth because there's no trees,
there's no bushes, nothing green.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Everything we're used to on the surface planet is frozen
down there, and that's part of what makes Antarctica such
a unique continent. It's just so different than anything else
we're used to here. It's kind of like Europa, the planet,
the moon of Jupiter. The frozen ice planet kind of
reminded me of that. In fact, in the dry valleys
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of near McMurdo Base, where you mentioned, is the driest
place on Earth, they practice the Lunar rover, the Mars rover,
and even missions to Europa how they will handle a
frozen ice planet.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like that. It's incredible. You know what I find really
interesting about this notion that you've explored in this book
is the idea of there either being a breakaway civilization
Nazis or otherwise, or even the possibility of an extraterrestrial
base down there under the ice. If either of these
things did happen, and they did exist, that's where they
would be. You experienced how difficult it is just to
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get there, let alone survive in these harsh conditions. It
would make it the ideal location for such a thing
to remain out of site from the rest of the world, right.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
The absolute best place to be out of site from
the rest of the world, where no drones could see you,
no satellites could take pictures. Really, the under ice environment
of Antarctica and the deepest depths of the ocean are
the last unexplored places on this planet. And so if
you wanted to create a secret base, even a science
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city that was warmed from the geotaeal activity on Antarctica
because of all the volcanic activity, this would.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Be the perfect place.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And Ron when I was going over maps before my
trip down there, I came across all the bases in
Antarctica during the Cold War era, so in the early
nineteen eighties, and guess what West Germany is still in
New Schwabenland. The Germans never left, that's an established fact.
And that they had this advanced technology that they were
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working on after during World War Two, but then taking
it down there afterwards just shows that they have established
not only a base, but a science city. And that's
what Admiral Bird was tasked with taking out and trying
to recover a UFO. That's what operational high jump was
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all about. But he came back with a dog with
his tail between his legs. Could they he got their
ass handed to him?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's incredible. You know, there's that speculation as you're saying
that they would be able to utilize that heat from
all this volcanic activity, but also there's this speculation that
perhaps they've recovered and backward engineered ET technology and perhaps
I've even mastered zero point energy from that. What do
you think about that idea? That way, they could have
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energy underneath the ice.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Right exactly, and a light source of course too, because
it'd be pretty dark down there. Right after World War Two,
the Soviets were the very first to get into Berlin,
so they got the King's ransom of maps and artifacts
and plans, blueprints of UFO designs. A lot of this
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stuff has leaked, and now for the very first time ever,
some of these U boat maps have started to appear
on the Internet. And with a research assis on my
book and Secrets of Antarctica, we're reprinting some of those
U boat maps going underneath the ice, so they would
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have this entrance way to go deep underneath the continental shelf.
And as you mentioned, with all that geothermal activity, you
have the propensity for large domes to be under the
ice where they could just set up shop. And that's
what they did, and they moved this technology down there,
and yeah, with the advanced zero point energy and free
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energy technology that they were working on during World War Two,
that they would have everything you need to set up
shop down there full time.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's incredible. This treasure trove of recovered documents that the
Russians recovered at the end of World War Two? Is
that correct? How that is real? I mean, it does
seem like it'd be an awfully odd thing to fake.
Certainly at that time in the world. It doesn't seem
like somebody would be doing that. But have these been authenticated?
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Do you think they're real?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They have.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Got to keep in mind at the end of the
Cold War era, so the early nineteen nineties, when the
Soviet Union was on the vergic collapse, and right after
it did, you could show up in Moscow with a
suitcase full of hard currency or gold, silver and people
would go into the Kremlin and retrieve whatever you're looking for. So,
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some of the best alien autopsy videos down crash, they're
all on the internet now, but they started from this
period where you could just buy this stuff. And so
this journalist he got these maps and he flips through
them in this video. Subsequent videos he's done showing the
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proximity of where he got them and also the providence
of the authenticity of these maps, and they're just incredible
round and you know how Germans are very exact and
everything they do. So the diving directions overview maps overhead
and then underneath the ice and through some lakes, the
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fjords underneath the ice to get way deep into the
interior of the Antarctica are all indicated on these maps.
And so we're going to we're reprinting them and I
do believe it's for the first time in the English
language that people will be able to see these maps
and have a overview of what they're all about. And
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it's just to me it's a smoking gun that not
only were the Germans well established in Antarctica and the
Schwabenland area, but also had created these bases Base two
eleven and even the new Berlin base which is more
of a city, which is where most of the scientists
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and soldiers after the war were coming. Because you've got
to remember also their technologlogy with submarines was very well advanced,
and a lot of those scientists that were working on
the submarines, they came over to America for a project
paper Clip and helped us develop and catch up and
create nuclear submarines which don't need refueling, which can stay
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underwater for years at a time if they wanted to.
And so that's a complete game changer when you think
about how well they could enter into these subterranean worlds
in Antarctica.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Absolutely, even these documents could really, if they're really authentic,
they would change the world immediately because they're so detailed,
Like you said, they explain exactly how to get into there.
They talk about the anti gravity engines, flying discs, ancient technology.
There's even photographs and drawings of them unequivocally working on
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disc shaped craft. That's incredible. We got to take a
break here. When we come back, we're going to ask
Brad what he thinks might actually be under the ice
in Antarctica and if we'll ever get to know about it.
You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast
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Contact talking to Brad Olson. Hey, Brad, We've seen these
images of possible pyramids. We've heard stories about possible structures
and the thick massive doors and maybe even megalithic structures
under the ice. We've heard there may even be a
crashed UFO in the ice. What do you think is
really down there under the ice?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
These are the greatest mysteries left on planet for us
to open up and examine here, because really disclosure could
come out from Antarctica if we were allowed to really
see what's going on down there. In my discussions and
interviews and work with Emery Smith, he has information on
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one of the craft and what we were going down
there seven years ago with the intent purpose of following
up on this trail about how to get to one
of these massive crafts under the ice. And they're supposedly
there are three of these big crafts that have been
known by our intelligence agencies since the nineteen seventies, and
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they gave him the nickname Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.
And I think I've been able to pinpoint the location
of all three and one of them, probably the best
evidence for one of these giant crafts, happens to be
a new schwabenland which can be seen poking out through
the ice. And I have pictures from Google Earth in
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the book where people can take a look and see
for themselves, and at this location in the year twenty
thirteen can go on the way Back machine and Google Earth.
At the Conan base. You can see that they were
doing excavation and finding a way in and I think
this is where Emery Smith was indicating that there's a
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doorway that you can go in there. And I love
it when I can get multiple data points that sync up.
And so the Far Sight Institute they sent some of
the remote viewers down there to that exact location GPS coordinates.
He said, oh, yeah, there's some kind of giant machine,
like something that's artificial but was built for very very
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tall ets. And they were down there remote viewing all
these double blinds, coming back with the same results that
there's some kind of massive craft under the ice there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And so the.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Germans were doing an excavation there in twenty thirteen and
you can see what looks like a big grill which
is about a quarter mile long that they had unveiled
from the ice. Yeah, and so many other things. And
of course Linda Moulton Howe is Spartan one and two.
They have that giant black basalt and I've been able
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to locate that in the southern Beard Moore Glacier area.
That would be another one of the Nina Pinton Santa Maria.
And then I think the third could be the hole
in the ice where there could be an entrance down
to New Berlin base or the domain of the Ariani
that Admiral Byrd wrote about when he flew his plane
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in there and his diary.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
As the earth warms, that the ice could melt and
just reveal these things to us. You think that's possible.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
That's absolutely possible. And that's what Emery Smith said, is
that there's going to come a time where they just
can't hide it anymore, that satellites are going to pick
it up, or drones are getting so advanced that they
can fly hundreds of miles now from a base and
go look at this stuff. And so that's why all
roads lead to Antarctica. We could have a very meaningful
disclosure that comes out of there.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
This could literally be the answer to all of these questions.
It's incredible. Now you talk about UFO down there, and
I want to know what your take on these different
craft are. I know there's these three buried in the ice,
but there's also been other sightings of other UFO craft
going back to the forties. Do you think these are
alien vehicles let's call them alien, or are they German
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vehicles or are they perhaps et vehicles that were back
engineered by the Germans and that's what we're seeing. What
do you think they are?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Well, that's a ten million dollar question because multiple eyewitness
reports and even Russian intelligence that we're talking about what
happened during the Battle of High Jump where discs came
up out of the water and This is in February
nineteen forty seven, and it was a one way route
of American forces. That's why Operation High Jump is still
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considered top secret. And will the government is not telling
us really what happened because they got egg in their face.
We got routed by these discs? Now who is piloting those?
Because the Germans were allied with some exterstrial forces, they
were getting technology from them, or they were getting discs
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that came from the black For us, they got a
down disc that the German engineers were backward engineering since
nineteen thirty three. And there was an almost complete UFO
craft in the Barti region of Italy that Mussolini turned
over to the German scientists as well. So they had
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an intact craft as well as a downcraft since at
least the nineteen thirties to be working.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
On this stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Ron is that the magenta Okay, yep, they did have
that technology to work from, but it was inspired by
exterrestrial So Herman Oberith, one of the Project paper Clip
scientists that came over here at his retirement. They somebody asked,
so how did the Germans get so advanced so quickly?
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He said, we had help from our friend from above.
So there you go, I mean, straight from the horse's mouth.
They add this technological help from other ets.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, how do we get to the bottom of all this?
Even though it's a real place and we know Antarctica's there,
it somehow seems harder to get there or get information
about Antarctica than it is even something like Area fifty one.
This almost seems like a bigger cover up than the
UFO cover up on our soil.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I would totally agree with you. And because it's so
remote and so hard to get there, and even hard
to get permission to travel inland to these locations.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Do you think that's by design by design?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yes, I do, And I think it's by design with
the Antarctica Treaty, which was started in the late nineteen fifties.
So in my book Secrets of bout Antarctica, I talk
about the Operation Argus, which was the cover story was
they were shooting high altitude nuclear bombs to test the
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stratosphere and to release the ozone and all these stupid
cover stories. But what it probably really was all about
was nuking New Schwabenland. So I'd like to go down
there with some Geiger counters, and if we can get
a reading of radioactivity in New Schwabenland, that would be
a game changer because then it would show that indeed
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we were taking revenge on Operation High Jump with Operation Argus.
But the point is right after that they started the
Antarctica Treaty, and that was cover for all countries of
the world that they could go down there and research,
they could do stuff. You could go down there on
a sailboat like I did in certain areas. But then
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there were certain areas that were absolutely off limits. And
I think, why would that be and why would there
be no fly zones when there's no flights crossing Antarctica?
That makes no sense at all. And same thing with
the area around the South Pole Station. I have the maps,
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as I reproduced in the book, that there is a
no fly zone but only at a high altitude. But
who's going to be flying over or low flying craft?
You can only fly over at a high altitude. So
it's kind of like saying, yeah, you can fly over,
but you have to be going from Australia to South America.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Right, No, he does that, no flights do that.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
But it also says on those maps no overland travel.
And so the whole reason for no fly zone is
for this air sampling station that they don't want any
pollution in the air. Right, So you can't even cross
country ski you cannot go there, right. Why that's not
contributing any noxious gases. But the point is that it
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does cover for the hole in the ice. And Linnimolton,
How's whistle lower Brian s who I had an hour
long conversation with and he described to me in detail
they saw that hole in the ice because they defied
the no fly orders on an emergency evacuation and get
this run. Not only are there cat track and snowmobile
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tracks leaving the base that go through this no go zone.
It's more than a no fly zone, it's no travel zone,
but there's a road that kirkscrews down the hole in
the ice, he was describing to me, So you can
even get down there. And that's it's on the polar plateau,
which is two miles above the continental surface. Can you imagine, No,
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it sounds like you would go back there.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I would go back there. And we're putting together and
through with all I've been through as long as I
can fly there. I don't know if I want to
do the Drake passage again. That's a little hard calling.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And that is the hard part. I couldn't still make it. Hey,
we got to take another break there. When we come back,
we're going to ask Brad more about the realities of
a possible breakaway civilization existing either under the ice or
even in the hollow Earth itself. You're listening to Beyond
Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
podcast network. We're back on Beyond Contact talking to Bradles
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and Brad you've mentioned his name several times already. Back
in nineteen forty six forty seven, maybe there was this
famous Operation high Jump, which you've alluded to, which was
this large scale Navy expedition by led by Rear Admiral
Richard E. Bird. There are claims that he had a
secret diary which claims that he saw this hole on
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the Earth and was able to see a green valley
and even didn't even meet or sea beings. Do you
think that's real?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Well, I think the hole is real, and I think
his diary is real. His description holds up. Then again,
we're talking about a complete game changer because we would
have a totally different environment down there. So in my
book Ron you may recall reading the part about where
they're doing the scans kind of like what they've just
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done on the Giza Plateau with these very high tech
scans that can see underneath the ice, and what's coming
back is a totally new world down there, with animal
species that have yet to be discovered, with lakes that
are warned from the geothermal activity, that have rivers that
flow out under the ice to the ocean, and in
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several different locations they've done these scans and the results
always come back that it's a whole world down there,
a whole different environment than.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
On the surface.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
So yeah, you have the propensity for these big under
ice domes and for all this life to take place,
but also the ability to live under there because you'd
be shielded from the extremities of the surface, and with
the geothermal warming, you even have warm water or an
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energy source. So it didn't even necessarily need to be
some kind of free energy that the Germans brought down there.
They could just tap into the geothermal and get an
energy source that way too.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
It's incredible, it absolutely incredible what do you think these
beings are people that were seen in this hidden earth
the whole world? Do you think they are a breakaway
human civilization or perhaps from somewhere else, or do you
think it's possible there are a group that evolved on
Earth separate from the rest of us. It's also science
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fiction y. It's hard to even say it out, Lou,
but it's something Jules.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Verne yeah Erney To the Center of the Earth, remember
that great nineteenth century novel, And isn't it funny how
oftentimes life is stranger than fiction or vice versa. And
here you have it. So let's just do a very
quick recap on what admir Byrd said he saw on
his flight in there, which happened to be at the
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very beginning of high Jump. So he goes down there,
and he was telepathically even before high Jump started, which
he the only clue he gave was military and nature,
which had never happened before. But they go down there
with this huge armount of ships, which broke off into
three groups of ships, two of which were right off
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shore in New Schwabenland. So they're going down there to
make some kind of arrest or conquest. The guys were
even ready to go on shore as an invasion force.
But so he goes there first off with only the
radio man guy named Howie, and they both fly the
same route that Admiral Bird flew in nineteen twenty nine
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when he discovered and was the very first to fly
over the South Pole. And I show on his original
map of his crossing that he went over the no
fly zone. He went right over where that hole in
the ice is, so he knew about it, and he
was summoned back. So this time they fly into the
hole and there's a three hour gap where they thought
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we lost Admiral Bird. He crashed, he went off off
the radio, and he was gone for three hours. Then
he pops back out and he's flying back to Little America.
But in that time he goes down into the hole
in the ice, he sees his verdant green valley. They
see what at first they thought was an elephant. Turns
out it was a wooly mammoth, so even mega fauna
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living down there. And then they're flying and they lose
control first of the radio but then of the control
of the flight, and over the radio comes a Germanic
voice that says welcome to the Domain of the Ariani.
We will be landing shortly. You're in good hands, Admiral Bird,
and they took control of his plane. They landed two
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UFOs wingtip to wingtip, which he called fluglods, and there's
no such word in the German language for a fluglods,
so that's kind of interesting. But they landed him and
I'll come these two big blonde haired soldiers who escorted
him to a meeting with the Master in this city,
the Domain of the Ariani, which to me, the way
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the description was was kind of like The Wizard of Oz,
remember when they go to the Emerald City, just some
kind of gleaming, pastel colored city, and then the Master,
who's telepathic and kind of alien like in nature. So
this kind of begs the question are there aliens under
the ice too? But basically says, we don't want you
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playing around with these nuclear bombs. Go back to the
and tell them to knock it off. And so the
two giant tall German guys escort him out, and the
last thing they say to him when they give him
control of the plane back is vitashane goodbye and German.
So they're speaking to him in German. My theory on
this run is that they met this high tech civilization
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from their trips to Tibet in the nineteen thirties. That's
how they got the directions under the ice. So they
were invited in this high tech civilization of very human
looking ets, but different than us, and they were merging
their new Berlin city into the domain of the Ariani.
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Because the same place where that hole in the ice
is near the south Pole is exactly where the directions
that these U boat maps send the ships within one
hundred miles, So there's a whole world down there.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Absolutely incredible. It's interesting that that's the message that people
often report having et contact on land is they say,
stop with the nukes and save the planet. Those are
the kind of messages that are often given, supposedly, So
that's an interesting tie in.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Once again, another interesting tie in. And yeah, I mean
not only talking about exterrestrials. Maybe they're inner terrestrials. Maybe
they've been here the whole time, right right out of
our feet, right out of the ice in Antarctica, and
there they are existing kind of mining themselves. Same thing
with under the Tibetan plateau and the Germans expeditions to
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Tibet Ron in the nineteen thirties play a very big
role in why the Germans went down to New Schwabenland,
set up shop and found the way through these passages
under the ice. It all ties in together with this
hollow Earth, with this inner terrestrial existence right here on
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planet Earth.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, the Germans were very interest said in all these
occult things, and I think they went around the world
grabbing all this information right.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh, everywhere they could get it, not only throughout Europe.
They collected it. Just like the movie Raiders of the
Lost Dark, once again fiction based on truth. They're looking
for the Ark of the Covenant and they ended up
in Egypt, and yeah, they were in Egypt, but they
were also in Tibet. So remember that movie Seven Years
in Tibet with Brad Pitt. So that was based on
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the life of Ernst Schaeffer and he was this incredible mountaineer.
But what they don't tell you in the movie is
that they were looking for this entrance to go to Shambala,
to these mythical cities under the Tibetan Plateau. And they
came back to Germany in nineteen thirty eight with something
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that was so important that the Germans, without wasting any time,
outfitted the chip called Schwabenland and went right down to
Antarctica as soon as they possible could. So they were
leaving with some kind of information that they got out
of Tabet to go meet this other maybe similarly related
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to this inner civilization under Tibet, which was related to
this under the ice civilization in Antarctica.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
You know, when you were down there, did you get
anyone to corroborate or or did you hear stories that
supported these claims? Or do we really only have the
one account from this lost diary?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
So I went down there, and as far as I know,
I'm the only researcher in this field on my own
dime to go down there to ask the big questions,
to look into all this stuff. And my line of
questioning was exactly the same at all the bases we
went to, and even before we went talking to sea
captains in Ushuaia, Argentina, do you know of any of
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these ships under the ice? You know, the Nina Pentus,
Santa Maria. Have you ever heard of Hermid's poking through?
Have you ever heard of any kind of excavations where
they're pulling out either giants or megafauna or megalithic sights
under the ice. The answer was always no.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But what I did find.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Out not only that there was this no fly zone
that was very strictly enforced near the cell Pole, but
also that one of the bases in Argentina bases just
had a UFO sighting at the Belgrano two base. And
the guy was very reluctant to tell me, in fact,
that he was there with another woman. In my Spanish,
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isn't that good? But it was kind of picking up
like no, no, don't tell him, don't say anything. So
she split and then we'd like, no, you gotta tell us,
I said, Well, what she said I shouldn't tell you
is that one of our bases had a flyover of UFOs.
It was all the talk within our community, and.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's really interesting too. Bright. You know, another tye in
would be that you said that bird Lane to have
seen a wooly man. Well, as you know, as you
reported in your book, there are dinosaur species that have
been uncovered in Antarctica, so we know that there was
that type of life from that time period. When we
come back We're going to ask Brad what the most
compelling piece of evidence he found that suggests Antarctica is
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hiding something extraordinary. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the
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back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Brad Olson about Antarctica. So, Brad,
what is the single most compelling piece of evidence that
you've personally found that suggests they're hiding something down in
an Arctica.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Well, I'd have to say it's these new U boat
maps that show the direction and they've been authenticated. The guy,
the Russian journalist who is bringing out this information, he
flips through a whole stack of them, so you can
see that they're all the same, but they're each individually
stamped signed off by the Kriegsmarine admiral. And there's even
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the back story that they were all created in the
Bookwald Concentration Camp. The Germans had very professional forgers and
map makers, so they would find out who were the
best at what, including even Jewish people would help them
counterfeit English pounds and so they were using that for financing.
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So a lot of this stuff found its way to
the map making abilities, and so these maps ron I
think the providence is there. They're authentic. They came out
of the Soviet Union at its collapse, and it wasn't
just in one location, it was in several locations. They
found maps to Antarctica and also journal entries of some
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of the high officers who were working on the Antarctica
project how they wanted to get mainly orphaned men if
they didn't have family ties to Germany, that they were
the ones that they wanted to go down there because
it was basically a one way trip. And there's even
this incredible letter after the war from Carl Unger to
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his family and his friend where he's saying, we've made it.
The earth is hollow. I'm on U boat two nine,
but we will not be returning. We've gotten to inner Earth.
Somehow this letter made its way out and back to
his family and he said we're not prisoners, but we
will not be returning, and sure enough he never returned.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Which reminds me of the other thing you brought up
in your book, is these other areas. Was it full society,
real society, and or disappeared without a trace?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yep, So those were right after World War One, the
Vrille were the real women with the long hair. They
were doing these telepathic trances in a Bavarian hunting lodge.
And my filmmaker friend Frank Jacob and his girlfriend Tanya Maddenford,
they found the Bavarian hunting lodge. So I'm speaking in
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Germany in May and we're gonna go there. He's gonna
show me the hunting lodge where the real women were
downloading telepathically blueprints which the German engineers were able actually
able to use. Like Victor Schallenberger, he said, this is
where this is workable physics. Not only the vrill but
then the Tula Society, which was absolutely fascinated with these
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relics around the world. They were the ones who put
together the Tibet excursions as well as the New Schwabenland expedition.
And then during the war then that all coalesced into
the n Nerbe Society and it was in the High
Offices in Berlin that the Soviets got a lot of
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these documents from the Anninerbe Society about Antarctica and about
all the other things. I mean, they had volumes, tens
of thousands of books that they're trying to get out
of there at the end, but they couldn't get it
all out, and so what got left is now turning
up into some of these incredible documents.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Who would think that all of the answers to many
of the mysteries we have on Earth are right there
in Antarctica. It's really incredible, you know, Brad, You've looked
at this topic, not just in Antarctica, but all over
the world. You've traveled every continent. You've been to all
these places. You've talked about ancient civilizations and sort of
forbidden archaeology. Gun to your head, Brad, what is the
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best guess you think of us being visited by another intelligence,
either today or in the distant past. What do you
feel happened or is happening? Do you have a guess?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Well, gosh, we go the Three Eye at lists barreling
down towards Earth.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
NASA is on a closure because of the government shutdown,
so they can't release CYRAS images.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
They wouldn't anyway. It was never a straight answer on
that's right. So yeah, I think we're just at this
incredible moment in human history. I do believe that a
meaningful contact or disclosure is imminent very soon, as in
months instead of years or decades. Seriously, Yeah, yeah, well
let's let's we're gonna see what happens. Not only three
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eye at lists, but there's the other one called Swan
that's coming from a different direction, that is not behaving
like a media You're right, of course, you've heard of
obviously Lobe, the Harvard astrophysicist who says it's speeding up,
it's moving in different directions that it shouldn't do. And
we're all going to get these answers very very soon.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Enough to convince the vast majority of people, you know
that we'll all go oh wow, amazing, but they're going
to be like, that's nothing for how do we.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
So it comes, it crosses the arc of the Earth plane,
not in a collision course, but then it goes behind
the Sun, and then we come around again towards the
end of December, where we're gonna have the closest proximity.
And what if amateur astronomers could just set up their
telescopes and look at this thing that could provoke disclosure. Yeah,
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it's showing signs that it's somehow intelligently propelled, So that's
fascinating in and of itself. What it looks like I
think will be the big question. If it turns out
to be a massive mothership. I mean, unfortunately, I think
it could be used by the deep State for Project Bluebeam.
It's getting so much attention. As we know, there have
been so many UFO sightings over the last few years
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or decades that could have gotten the Lion's share of attention,
like three I Atlas is getting.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
So I think we're.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Being set up for something, and that could be this
fake alien invasion that we've heard about since the nineteen seventies,
with Werner von Braun telling his assistant Carol Rosen that
it would be fake and it would be the last
thing that they would use to usher in a new
world order, a digital currency, a digital ID, all this
stuff that they need to use to get us to
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comply to this new world order. So, unfortunately, I think
there's more to it than what it appears on the
surface here for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Do you have any thoughts on the growing idea that
NHI or even these UFO themselves, they seem to have
more to do with consciousness than we thought before. How
do you feel about that.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
And that's what it's got to be. So when Avi
Loebe said, when it was just passing Jupiter, this three
I atlas, Oh, they have mal intent? This could be
an invasion for how would you know that? How could
you know that? Look, if they wanted to conquer Earth
just fifty years ago, it would be much easier one
hundred years ago, before we had any advanced weaponry. But
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now why And as you said, it's a consciousness thing.
Any benevolent et group is not coming here to conquer us,
to attack us, to do anything malevolent in any kind
of way. It would be to elevate the human spirit.
And so to get us to a point where we're
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able to make meaningful contact with them and maybe sit
it an air galactic table of planet and negotiate with them,
and then we'd really have some high technology coming our
way round.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
You just brought up something that I don't think anyone's
ever said before, and I think it's absolutely brilliant. We
shouldn't gloss over it. If this extraterrestrial race, let's call,
if it's that, if they were coming here with any
mal intent to overtake us or anything, you know, they
claim they've been coming for thousands of years, Why would
you not do it anytime in the last one hundred
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years we didn't have nuclear weapons, any of these sort
of defense systems that one hundred years ago we would
have been so easy to take over. That's a really
good argument for their not coming to take us over.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Because they and if they show signs that they are,
then I'd say it's Project Bluebeam. It's fake alien invasion.
So maybe the holograms in the sky and the voice
to Skull technology, and in my book Beyond Esoteric, I
have a whole write up on the different scenarios that
Project Bluebeam is supposed to take, and if even a
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fraction of that happens, it's a big fake out. What
could come out of this ron is that we could
still get some kind of meaningful disclosure. The discussion will
then go into the mainstream and will be forced to
start having these talks.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
I feel the way AI is now and everything these
deep fakes that are coming out and the new AI
stuff is so easy and they can fake anything, really
gives credence to Project Bluebeam. I think it would be
very easy to do.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
So when it comes back around from behind the Sun
in late December, coming right into the holiday season. One
of the aspects of Project It's not just fake alien invasion,
it's also the return of the Messiah. You know how
many people are so religious in this world, not just Christians,
and this is part of the scenario of Bluebeam, is
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that you would have your Messiah in the sky using
voice to skull technology, which is like being schizophrenic and
hearing voices in your skull.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Anything's possible today, brother, Thanks so much, Brad. That was
fascinating stuff. All the answers might be right here at
Antarctica after all. Hey man, you guys can find Brad
at Bradelsen dot net. Thanks again, buddy, appreciate you coming
on you bet Ron, thank you. You can find me
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
Cases as we talked with the top experts. Welcome Beyond Contact.
I'm Captain Ron, and today we're speaking with Brad Olson.
Brad's a very busy guy. He's a publisher, producer, multi
award winning travel writer of ten books, including his Esoteric series,
Modern Esoteric, Future Esoteric, and Beyond Esoteric. He's appeared on
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many TV shows and live conferences, including of course, Contact
in the Desert. He's the founder and co producer of
How Weird Street Fair in San Francisco. That ten book
figure is about to become eleven with the release of
his latest book, Secrets of Antarctica, The Untold Story of Antarctica,
which covers many aspects of Antarctica, including the famous Admiral
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Richard Byrd's operation High Jump to confront the Nazi bas
and recover a Nazi flying disc. I've already had the
pleasure of reading it and it's a very very intriguing book.
Let's welcome Brad to the show. Hey Brad, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Hey Ron, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on,
and thank you for that wonderful endorsement of the book.
You read the entire thing I did republication, and you
gave me a great review for it that will appear
on page one of the book.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh that's great, man, I love it. Glad to help.
Let's take a quick minute before we dive into this
here and just talk about Antarctica itself, man, because you know,
back in twenty nineteen you took this trip of a
lifetime down there, and it's just so there's so many
fascinating elements. Just again, like I was telling you, just
straight up facts about the continent that I found just
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incredible that I just don't think most people know. Things
like it has the driest place on Earth. Nobody would
think that it's twice the size of the Contiguous forty eight.
It holds seventy percent of the fresh water on the planet.
It contains the most active volcano system in the world.
Who would know these things? It already sounds like science
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fiction to me, and I have not even mentioned that
it might hold the key to the whole UFO phenomenon.
What are your thoughts on this lost world down there?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Well, the back cover title headline says all roads lead
to Antarctica. Of course, no roads lead to Antarctica, but
disclosure could very well come from Antarctica. So there we
have what might be the biggest story in human history
if we were to really unravel what is below the ice,
what the Nazis were doing down there pre World War two,
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and by the way, they're still there. Linda Bolton Howe
had a great interview about two years ago where all
of these Germans were fleeing out of McMurdo base, Germans
speaking men and women in the middle of winter, which
is usually dead time there. The travel season only begins
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coming right up in November until March, because of course
the seasons are opposite down there, and that's when we
went down there. I went down there in a sailboat
with Emily Infinity and twelve others and spent about a
month on this boat going through Antarctica. As you said
in your setup, Ron, it is like another world down there.
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It's like going off planet because it's nothing that you'd
be familiar with here on Earth because there's no trees,
there's no bushes, nothing green.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Everything we're used to on the surface planet is frozen
down there, and that's part of what makes Antarctica such
a unique continent. It's just so different than anything else
we're used to here. It's kind of like Europa, the planet,
the moon of Jupiter. The frozen ice planet kind of
reminded me of that. In fact, in the dry valleys
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of near McMurdo Base, where you mentioned, is the driest
place on Earth, they practice the Lunar rover, the Mars rover,
and even missions to Europa how they will handle a
frozen ice planet.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like that. It's incredible. You know what I find really
interesting about this notion that you've explored in this book
is the idea of there either being a breakaway civilization
Nazis or otherwise, or even the possibility of an extraterrestrial
base down there under the ice. If either of these
things did happen, and they did exist, that's where they
would be. You experienced how difficult it is just to
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get there, let alone survive in these harsh conditions. It
would make it the ideal location for such a thing
to remain out of site from the rest of the world, right.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
The absolute best place to be out of site from
the rest of the world, where no drones could see you,
no satellites could take pictures. Really, the under ice environment
of Antarctica and the deepest depths of the ocean are
the last unexplored places on this planet. And so if
you wanted to create a secret base, even a science
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city that was warmed from the geotaeal activity on Antarctica
because of all the volcanic activity, this would.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Be the perfect place.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And Ron when I was going over maps before my
trip down there, I came across all the bases in
Antarctica during the Cold War era, so in the early
nineteen eighties, and guess what West Germany is still in
New Schwabenland. The Germans never left, that's an established fact.
And that they had this advanced technology that they were
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working on after during World War Two, but then taking
it down there afterwards just shows that they have established
not only a base, but a science city. And that's
what Admiral Bird was tasked with taking out and trying
to recover a UFO. That's what operational high jump was
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all about. But he came back with a dog with
his tail between his legs. Could they he got their
ass handed to him?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's incredible. You know, there's that speculation as you're saying
that they would be able to utilize that heat from
all this volcanic activity, but also there's this speculation that
perhaps they've recovered and backward engineered ET technology and perhaps
I've even mastered zero point energy from that. What do
you think about that idea? That way, they could have
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energy underneath the ice.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Right exactly, and a light source of course too, because
it'd be pretty dark down there. Right after World War Two,
the Soviets were the very first to get into Berlin,
so they got the King's ransom of maps and artifacts
and plans, blueprints of UFO designs. A lot of this
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stuff has leaked, and now for the very first time ever,
some of these U boat maps have started to appear
on the Internet. And with a research assis on my
book and Secrets of Antarctica, we're reprinting some of those
U boat maps going underneath the ice, so they would
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have this entrance way to go deep underneath the continental shelf.
And as you mentioned, with all that geothermal activity, you
have the propensity for large domes to be under the
ice where they could just set up shop. And that's
what they did, and they moved this technology down there,
and yeah, with the advanced zero point energy and free
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energy technology that they were working on during World War Two,
that they would have everything you need to set up
shop down there full time.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's incredible. This treasure trove of recovered documents that the
Russians recovered at the end of World War Two? Is
that correct? How that is real? I mean, it does
seem like it'd be an awfully odd thing to fake.
Certainly at that time in the world. It doesn't seem
like somebody would be doing that. But have these been authenticated?
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Do you think they're real?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They have.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Got to keep in mind at the end of the
Cold War era, so the early nineteen nineties, when the
Soviet Union was on the vergic collapse, and right after
it did, you could show up in Moscow with a
suitcase full of hard currency or gold, silver and people
would go into the Kremlin and retrieve whatever you're looking for. So,
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some of the best alien autopsy videos down crash, they're
all on the internet now, but they started from this
period where you could just buy this stuff. And so
this journalist he got these maps and he flips through
them in this video. Subsequent videos he's done showing the
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proximity of where he got them and also the providence
of the authenticity of these maps, and they're just incredible
round and you know how Germans are very exact and
everything they do. So the diving directions overview maps overhead
and then underneath the ice and through some lakes, the
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fjords underneath the ice to get way deep into the
interior of the Antarctica are all indicated on these maps.
And so we're going to we're reprinting them and I
do believe it's for the first time in the English
language that people will be able to see these maps
and have a overview of what they're all about. And
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it's just to me it's a smoking gun that not
only were the Germans well established in Antarctica and the
Schwabenland area, but also had created these bases Base two
eleven and even the new Berlin base which is more
of a city, which is where most of the scientists
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and soldiers after the war were coming. Because you've got
to remember also their technologlogy with submarines was very well advanced,
and a lot of those scientists that were working on
the submarines, they came over to America for a project
paper Clip and helped us develop and catch up and
create nuclear submarines which don't need refueling, which can stay
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underwater for years at a time if they wanted to.
And so that's a complete game changer when you think
about how well they could enter into these subterranean worlds
in Antarctica.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Absolutely, even these documents could really, if they're really authentic,
they would change the world immediately because they're so detailed,
Like you said, they explain exactly how to get into there.
They talk about the anti gravity engines, flying discs, ancient technology.
There's even photographs and drawings of them unequivocally working on
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disc shaped craft. That's incredible. We got to take a
break here. When we come back, we're going to ask
Brad what he thinks might actually be under the ice
in Antarctica and if we'll ever get to know about it.
You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We're back on Beyond
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Contact talking to Brad Olson. Hey, Brad, We've seen these
images of possible pyramids. We've heard stories about possible structures
and the thick massive doors and maybe even megalithic structures
under the ice. We've heard there may even be a
crashed UFO in the ice. What do you think is
really down there under the ice?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
These are the greatest mysteries left on planet for us
to open up and examine here, because really disclosure could
come out from Antarctica if we were allowed to really
see what's going on down there. In my discussions and
interviews and work with Emery Smith, he has information on
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one of the craft and what we were going down
there seven years ago with the intent purpose of following
up on this trail about how to get to one
of these massive crafts under the ice. And they're supposedly
there are three of these big crafts that have been
known by our intelligence agencies since the nineteen seventies, and
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they gave him the nickname Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.
And I think I've been able to pinpoint the location
of all three and one of them, probably the best
evidence for one of these giant crafts, happens to be
a new schwabenland which can be seen poking out through
the ice. And I have pictures from Google Earth in
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the book where people can take a look and see
for themselves, and at this location in the year twenty
thirteen can go on the way Back machine and Google Earth.
At the Conan base. You can see that they were
doing excavation and finding a way in and I think
this is where Emery Smith was indicating that there's a
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doorway that you can go in there. And I love
it when I can get multiple data points that sync up.
And so the Far Sight Institute they sent some of
the remote viewers down there to that exact location GPS coordinates.
He said, oh, yeah, there's some kind of giant machine,
like something that's artificial but was built for very very
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tall ets. And they were down there remote viewing all
these double blinds, coming back with the same results that
there's some kind of massive craft under the ice there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And so the.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Germans were doing an excavation there in twenty thirteen and
you can see what looks like a big grill which
is about a quarter mile long that they had unveiled
from the ice. Yeah, and so many other things. And
of course Linda Moulton Howe is Spartan one and two.
They have that giant black basalt and I've been able
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to locate that in the southern Beard Moore Glacier area.
That would be another one of the Nina Pinton Santa Maria.
And then I think the third could be the hole
in the ice where there could be an entrance down
to New Berlin base or the domain of the Ariani
that Admiral Byrd wrote about when he flew his plane
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in there and his diary.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
As the earth warms, that the ice could melt and
just reveal these things to us. You think that's possible.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
That's absolutely possible. And that's what Emery Smith said, is
that there's going to come a time where they just
can't hide it anymore, that satellites are going to pick
it up, or drones are getting so advanced that they
can fly hundreds of miles now from a base and
go look at this stuff. And so that's why all
roads lead to Antarctica. We could have a very meaningful
disclosure that comes out of there.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
This could literally be the answer to all of these questions.
It's incredible. Now you talk about UFO down there, and
I want to know what your take on these different
craft are. I know there's these three buried in the ice,
but there's also been other sightings of other UFO craft
going back to the forties. Do you think these are
alien vehicles let's call them alien, or are they German
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vehicles or are they perhaps et vehicles that were back
engineered by the Germans and that's what we're seeing. What
do you think they are?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Well, that's a ten million dollar question because multiple eyewitness
reports and even Russian intelligence that we're talking about what
happened during the Battle of High Jump where discs came
up out of the water and This is in February
nineteen forty seven, and it was a one way route
of American forces. That's why Operation High Jump is still
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considered top secret. And will the government is not telling
us really what happened because they got egg in their face.
We got routed by these discs? Now who is piloting those?
Because the Germans were allied with some exterstrial forces, they
were getting technology from them, or they were getting discs
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that came from the black For us, they got a
down disc that the German engineers were backward engineering since
nineteen thirty three. And there was an almost complete UFO
craft in the Barti region of Italy that Mussolini turned
over to the German scientists as well. So they had
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an intact craft as well as a downcraft since at
least the nineteen thirties to be working.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
On this stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Ron is that the magenta Okay, yep, they did have
that technology to work from, but it was inspired by
exterrestrial So Herman Oberith, one of the Project paper Clip
scientists that came over here at his retirement. They somebody asked,
so how did the Germans get so advanced so quickly?
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He said, we had help from our friend from above.
So there you go, I mean, straight from the horse's mouth.
They add this technological help from other ets.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, how do we get to the bottom of all this?
Even though it's a real place and we know Antarctica's there,
it somehow seems harder to get there or get information
about Antarctica than it is even something like Area fifty one.
This almost seems like a bigger cover up than the
UFO cover up on our soil.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I would totally agree with you. And because it's so
remote and so hard to get there, and even hard
to get permission to travel inland to these locations.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Do you think that's by design by design?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yes, I do, And I think it's by design with
the Antarctica Treaty, which was started in the late nineteen fifties.
So in my book Secrets of bout Antarctica, I talk
about the Operation Argus, which was the cover story was
they were shooting high altitude nuclear bombs to test the
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stratosphere and to release the ozone and all these stupid
cover stories. But what it probably really was all about
was nuking New Schwabenland. So I'd like to go down
there with some Geiger counters, and if we can get
a reading of radioactivity in New Schwabenland, that would be
a game changer because then it would show that indeed
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we were taking revenge on Operation High Jump with Operation Argus.
But the point is right after that they started the
Antarctica Treaty, and that was cover for all countries of
the world that they could go down there and research,
they could do stuff. You could go down there on
a sailboat like I did in certain areas. But then
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there were certain areas that were absolutely off limits. And
I think, why would that be and why would there
be no fly zones when there's no flights crossing Antarctica?
That makes no sense at all. And same thing with
the area around the South Pole Station. I have the maps,
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as I reproduced in the book, that there is a
no fly zone but only at a high altitude. But
who's going to be flying over or low flying craft?
You can only fly over at a high altitude. So
it's kind of like saying, yeah, you can fly over,
but you have to be going from Australia to South America.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Right, No, he does that, no flights do that.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
But it also says on those maps no overland travel.
And so the whole reason for no fly zone is
for this air sampling station that they don't want any
pollution in the air. Right, So you can't even cross
country ski you cannot go there, right. Why that's not
contributing any noxious gases. But the point is that it
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does cover for the hole in the ice. And Linnimolton,
How's whistle lower Brian s who I had an hour
long conversation with and he described to me in detail
they saw that hole in the ice because they defied
the no fly orders on an emergency evacuation and get
this run. Not only are there cat track and snowmobile
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tracks leaving the base that go through this no go zone.
It's more than a no fly zone, it's no travel zone,
but there's a road that kirkscrews down the hole in
the ice, he was describing to me, So you can
even get down there. And that's it's on the polar plateau,
which is two miles above the continental surface. Can you imagine, No,
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it sounds like you would go back there.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I would go back there. And we're putting together and
through with all I've been through as long as I
can fly there. I don't know if I want to
do the Drake passage again. That's a little hard calling.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And that is the hard part. I couldn't still make it. Hey,
we got to take another break there. When we come back,
we're going to ask Brad more about the realities of
a possible breakaway civilization existing either under the ice or
even in the hollow Earth itself. You're listening to Beyond
Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
podcast network. We're back on Beyond Contact talking to Bradles
(22:32):
and Brad you've mentioned his name several times already. Back
in nineteen forty six forty seven, maybe there was this
famous Operation high Jump, which you've alluded to, which was
this large scale Navy expedition by led by Rear Admiral
Richard E. Bird. There are claims that he had a
secret diary which claims that he saw this hole on
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the Earth and was able to see a green valley
and even didn't even meet or sea beings. Do you
think that's real?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Well, I think the hole is real, and I think
his diary is real. His description holds up. Then again,
we're talking about a complete game changer because we would
have a totally different environment down there. So in my
book Ron you may recall reading the part about where
they're doing the scans kind of like what they've just
(23:25):
done on the Giza Plateau with these very high tech
scans that can see underneath the ice, and what's coming
back is a totally new world down there, with animal
species that have yet to be discovered, with lakes that
are warned from the geothermal activity, that have rivers that
flow out under the ice to the ocean, and in
(23:49):
several different locations they've done these scans and the results
always come back that it's a whole world down there,
a whole different environment than.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
On the surface.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
So yeah, you have the propensity for these big under
ice domes and for all this life to take place,
but also the ability to live under there because you'd
be shielded from the extremities of the surface, and with
the geothermal warming, you even have warm water or an
(24:23):
energy source. So it didn't even necessarily need to be
some kind of free energy that the Germans brought down there.
They could just tap into the geothermal and get an
energy source that way too.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
It's incredible, it absolutely incredible what do you think these
beings are people that were seen in this hidden earth
the whole world? Do you think they are a breakaway
human civilization or perhaps from somewhere else, or do you
think it's possible there are a group that evolved on
Earth separate from the rest of us. It's also science
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fiction y. It's hard to even say it out, Lou,
but it's something Jules.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Verne yeah Erney To the Center of the Earth, remember
that great nineteenth century novel, And isn't it funny how
oftentimes life is stranger than fiction or vice versa. And
here you have it. So let's just do a very
quick recap on what admir Byrd said he saw on
his flight in there, which happened to be at the
(25:24):
very beginning of high Jump. So he goes down there,
and he was telepathically even before high Jump started, which
he the only clue he gave was military and nature,
which had never happened before. But they go down there
with this huge armount of ships, which broke off into
three groups of ships, two of which were right off
(25:44):
shore in New Schwabenland. So they're going down there to
make some kind of arrest or conquest. The guys were
even ready to go on shore as an invasion force.
But so he goes there first off with only the
radio man guy named Howie, and they both fly the
same route that Admiral Bird flew in nineteen twenty nine
(26:07):
when he discovered and was the very first to fly
over the South Pole. And I show on his original
map of his crossing that he went over the no
fly zone. He went right over where that hole in
the ice is, so he knew about it, and he
was summoned back. So this time they fly into the
hole and there's a three hour gap where they thought
(26:30):
we lost Admiral Bird. He crashed, he went off off
the radio, and he was gone for three hours. Then
he pops back out and he's flying back to Little America.
But in that time he goes down into the hole
in the ice, he sees his verdant green valley. They
see what at first they thought was an elephant. Turns
out it was a wooly mammoth, so even mega fauna
(26:54):
living down there. And then they're flying and they lose
control first of the radio but then of the control
of the flight, and over the radio comes a Germanic
voice that says welcome to the Domain of the Ariani.
We will be landing shortly. You're in good hands, Admiral Bird,
and they took control of his plane. They landed two
(27:15):
UFOs wingtip to wingtip, which he called fluglods, and there's
no such word in the German language for a fluglods,
so that's kind of interesting. But they landed him and
I'll come these two big blonde haired soldiers who escorted
him to a meeting with the Master in this city,
the Domain of the Ariani, which to me, the way
(27:37):
the description was was kind of like The Wizard of Oz,
remember when they go to the Emerald City, just some
kind of gleaming, pastel colored city, and then the Master,
who's telepathic and kind of alien like in nature. So
this kind of begs the question are there aliens under
the ice too? But basically says, we don't want you
(27:57):
playing around with these nuclear bombs. Go back to the
and tell them to knock it off. And so the
two giant tall German guys escort him out, and the
last thing they say to him when they give him
control of the plane back is vitashane goodbye and German.
So they're speaking to him in German. My theory on
this run is that they met this high tech civilization
(28:21):
from their trips to Tibet in the nineteen thirties. That's
how they got the directions under the ice. So they
were invited in this high tech civilization of very human
looking ets, but different than us, and they were merging
their new Berlin city into the domain of the Ariani.
(28:41):
Because the same place where that hole in the ice
is near the south Pole is exactly where the directions
that these U boat maps send the ships within one
hundred miles, So there's a whole world down there.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Absolutely incredible. It's interesting that that's the message that people
often report having et contact on land is they say,
stop with the nukes and save the planet. Those are
the kind of messages that are often given, supposedly, So
that's an interesting tie in.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Once again, another interesting tie in. And yeah, I mean
not only talking about exterrestrials. Maybe they're inner terrestrials. Maybe
they've been here the whole time, right right out of
our feet, right out of the ice in Antarctica, and
there they are existing kind of mining themselves. Same thing
with under the Tibetan plateau and the Germans expeditions to
(29:37):
Tibet Ron in the nineteen thirties play a very big
role in why the Germans went down to New Schwabenland,
set up shop and found the way through these passages
under the ice. It all ties in together with this
hollow Earth, with this inner terrestrial existence right here on
(29:57):
planet Earth.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, the Germans were very interest said in all these
occult things, and I think they went around the world
grabbing all this information right.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh, everywhere they could get it, not only throughout Europe.
They collected it. Just like the movie Raiders of the
Lost Dark, once again fiction based on truth. They're looking
for the Ark of the Covenant and they ended up
in Egypt, and yeah, they were in Egypt, but they
were also in Tibet. So remember that movie Seven Years
in Tibet with Brad Pitt. So that was based on
(30:27):
the life of Ernst Schaeffer and he was this incredible mountaineer.
But what they don't tell you in the movie is
that they were looking for this entrance to go to Shambala,
to these mythical cities under the Tibetan Plateau. And they
came back to Germany in nineteen thirty eight with something
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that was so important that the Germans, without wasting any time,
outfitted the chip called Schwabenland and went right down to
Antarctica as soon as they possible could. So they were
leaving with some kind of information that they got out
of Tabet to go meet this other maybe similarly related
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to this inner civilization under Tibet, which was related to
this under the ice civilization in Antarctica.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
You know, when you were down there, did you get
anyone to corroborate or or did you hear stories that
supported these claims? Or do we really only have the
one account from this lost diary?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
So I went down there, and as far as I know,
I'm the only researcher in this field on my own
dime to go down there to ask the big questions,
to look into all this stuff. And my line of
questioning was exactly the same at all the bases we
went to, and even before we went talking to sea
captains in Ushuaia, Argentina, do you know of any of
(31:55):
these ships under the ice? You know, the Nina Pentus,
Santa Maria. Have you ever heard of Hermid's poking through?
Have you ever heard of any kind of excavations where
they're pulling out either giants or megafauna or megalithic sights
under the ice. The answer was always no.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But what I did find.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Out not only that there was this no fly zone
that was very strictly enforced near the cell Pole, but
also that one of the bases in Argentina bases just
had a UFO sighting at the Belgrano two base. And
the guy was very reluctant to tell me, in fact,
that he was there with another woman. In my Spanish,
(32:35):
isn't that good? But it was kind of picking up
like no, no, don't tell him, don't say anything. So
she split and then we'd like, no, you gotta tell us,
I said, Well, what she said I shouldn't tell you
is that one of our bases had a flyover of UFOs.
It was all the talk within our community, and.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's really interesting too. Bright. You know, another tye in
would be that you said that bird Lane to have
seen a wooly man. Well, as you know, as you
reported in your book, there are dinosaur species that have
been uncovered in Antarctica, so we know that there was
that type of life from that time period. When we
come back We're going to ask Brad what the most
compelling piece of evidence he found that suggests Antarctica is
(33:16):
hiding something extraordinary. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We're
(33:42):
back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Brad Olson about Antarctica. So, Brad,
what is the single most compelling piece of evidence that
you've personally found that suggests they're hiding something down in
an Arctica.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Well, I'd have to say it's these new U boat
maps that show the direction and they've been authenticated. The guy,
the Russian journalist who is bringing out this information, he
flips through a whole stack of them, so you can
see that they're all the same, but they're each individually
stamped signed off by the Kriegsmarine admiral. And there's even
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the back story that they were all created in the
Bookwald Concentration Camp. The Germans had very professional forgers and
map makers, so they would find out who were the
best at what, including even Jewish people would help them
counterfeit English pounds and so they were using that for financing.
(34:42):
So a lot of this stuff found its way to
the map making abilities, and so these maps ron I
think the providence is there. They're authentic. They came out
of the Soviet Union at its collapse, and it wasn't
just in one location, it was in several locations. They
found maps to Antarctica and also journal entries of some
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of the high officers who were working on the Antarctica
project how they wanted to get mainly orphaned men if
they didn't have family ties to Germany, that they were
the ones that they wanted to go down there because
it was basically a one way trip. And there's even
this incredible letter after the war from Carl Unger to
(35:28):
his family and his friend where he's saying, we've made it.
The earth is hollow. I'm on U boat two nine,
but we will not be returning. We've gotten to inner Earth.
Somehow this letter made its way out and back to
his family and he said we're not prisoners, but we
will not be returning, and sure enough he never returned.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Which reminds me of the other thing you brought up
in your book, is these other areas. Was it full society,
real society, and or disappeared without a trace?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yep, So those were right after World War One, the
Vrille were the real women with the long hair. They
were doing these telepathic trances in a Bavarian hunting lodge.
And my filmmaker friend Frank Jacob and his girlfriend Tanya Maddenford,
they found the Bavarian hunting lodge. So I'm speaking in
(36:23):
Germany in May and we're gonna go there. He's gonna
show me the hunting lodge where the real women were
downloading telepathically blueprints which the German engineers were able actually
able to use. Like Victor Schallenberger, he said, this is
where this is workable physics. Not only the vrill but
then the Tula Society, which was absolutely fascinated with these
(36:47):
relics around the world. They were the ones who put
together the Tibet excursions as well as the New Schwabenland expedition.
And then during the war then that all coalesced into
the n Nerbe Society and it was in the High
Offices in Berlin that the Soviets got a lot of
(37:09):
these documents from the Anninerbe Society about Antarctica and about
all the other things. I mean, they had volumes, tens
of thousands of books that they're trying to get out
of there at the end, but they couldn't get it
all out, and so what got left is now turning
up into some of these incredible documents.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Who would think that all of the answers to many
of the mysteries we have on Earth are right there
in Antarctica. It's really incredible, you know, Brad, You've looked
at this topic, not just in Antarctica, but all over
the world. You've traveled every continent. You've been to all
these places. You've talked about ancient civilizations and sort of
forbidden archaeology. Gun to your head, Brad, what is the
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best guess you think of us being visited by another intelligence,
either today or in the distant past. What do you
feel happened or is happening? Do you have a guess?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Well, gosh, we go the Three Eye at lists barreling
down towards Earth.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
NASA is on a closure because of the government shutdown,
so they can't release CYRAS images.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
They wouldn't anyway. It was never a straight answer on
that's right. So yeah, I think we're just at this
incredible moment in human history. I do believe that a
meaningful contact or disclosure is imminent very soon, as in
months instead of years or decades. Seriously, Yeah, yeah, well
let's let's we're gonna see what happens. Not only three
(38:32):
eye at lists, but there's the other one called Swan
that's coming from a different direction, that is not behaving
like a media You're right, of course, you've heard of
obviously Lobe, the Harvard astrophysicist who says it's speeding up,
it's moving in different directions that it shouldn't do. And
we're all going to get these answers very very soon.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Enough to convince the vast majority of people, you know
that we'll all go oh wow, amazing, but they're going
to be like, that's nothing for how do we.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
So it comes, it crosses the arc of the Earth plane,
not in a collision course, but then it goes behind
the Sun, and then we come around again towards the
end of December, where we're gonna have the closest proximity.
And what if amateur astronomers could just set up their
telescopes and look at this thing that could provoke disclosure. Yeah,
(39:23):
it's showing signs that it's somehow intelligently propelled, So that's
fascinating in and of itself. What it looks like I
think will be the big question. If it turns out
to be a massive mothership. I mean, unfortunately, I think
it could be used by the deep State for Project Bluebeam.
It's getting so much attention. As we know, there have
been so many UFO sightings over the last few years
(39:46):
or decades that could have gotten the Lion's share of attention,
like three I Atlas is getting.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
So I think we're.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Being set up for something, and that could be this
fake alien invasion that we've heard about since the nineteen seventies,
with Werner von Braun telling his assistant Carol Rosen that
it would be fake and it would be the last
thing that they would use to usher in a new
world order, a digital currency, a digital ID, all this
stuff that they need to use to get us to
(40:15):
comply to this new world order. So, unfortunately, I think
there's more to it than what it appears on the
surface here for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Do you have any thoughts on the growing idea that
NHI or even these UFO themselves, they seem to have
more to do with consciousness than we thought before. How
do you feel about that.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
And that's what it's got to be. So when Avi
Loebe said, when it was just passing Jupiter, this three
I atlas, Oh, they have mal intent? This could be
an invasion for how would you know that? How could
you know that? Look, if they wanted to conquer Earth
just fifty years ago, it would be much easier one
hundred years ago, before we had any advanced weaponry. But
(40:56):
now why And as you said, it's a consciousness thing.
Any benevolent et group is not coming here to conquer us,
to attack us, to do anything malevolent in any kind
of way. It would be to elevate the human spirit.
And so to get us to a point where we're
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able to make meaningful contact with them and maybe sit
it an air galactic table of planet and negotiate with them,
and then we'd really have some high technology coming our
way round.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
You just brought up something that I don't think anyone's
ever said before, and I think it's absolutely brilliant. We
shouldn't gloss over it. If this extraterrestrial race, let's call,
if it's that, if they were coming here with any
mal intent to overtake us or anything, you know, they
claim they've been coming for thousands of years, Why would
you not do it anytime in the last one hundred
(41:49):
years we didn't have nuclear weapons, any of these sort
of defense systems that one hundred years ago we would
have been so easy to take over. That's a really
good argument for their not coming to take us over.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Because they and if they show signs that they are,
then I'd say it's Project Bluebeam. It's fake alien invasion.
So maybe the holograms in the sky and the voice
to Skull technology, and in my book Beyond Esoteric, I
have a whole write up on the different scenarios that
Project Bluebeam is supposed to take, and if even a
(42:21):
fraction of that happens, it's a big fake out. What
could come out of this ron is that we could
still get some kind of meaningful disclosure. The discussion will
then go into the mainstream and will be forced to
start having these talks.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
I feel the way AI is now and everything these
deep fakes that are coming out and the new AI
stuff is so easy and they can fake anything, really
gives credence to Project Bluebeam. I think it would be
very easy to do.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
So when it comes back around from behind the Sun
in late December, coming right into the holiday season. One
of the aspects of Project It's not just fake alien invasion,
it's also the return of the Messiah. You know how
many people are so religious in this world, not just Christians,
and this is part of the scenario of Bluebeam, is
(43:12):
that you would have your Messiah in the sky using
voice to skull technology, which is like being schizophrenic and
hearing voices in your skull.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Anything's possible today, brother, Thanks so much, Brad. That was
fascinating stuff. All the answers might be right here at
Antarctica after all. Hey man, you guys can find Brad
at Bradelsen dot net. Thanks again, buddy, appreciate you coming
on you bet Ron, thank you. You can find me
on Twitter and Instagram at cd Underscore Captainron. Stay connected
by checking out contact intheesert dot com. Stay open minded,
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