December 19, 2025 • 39 mins
Byron Belitsos joins Captain Ron to discuss The Urantia Book which is said to have been channeled from celestial beings. There is a case to be made that this is true since some of the information written in the book was not known to science at that time. Enjoy listening and make up your mind!
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
As we talked with the top experts. Hi, and welcome
to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today we're
speaking with Byron Belisos. Byron is an award winning book
publisher and an author, editor, journalist, and educator. He is
a leading proponent of the famed Granchi book, which he
has studied for over forty years now maybe even fifty years,
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we'll ask him. He has been training in philosophy, psychology, history,
and theology. He is also versed in the UFO topic
as well as government disclosure beyond its ties to just
the Urancha book. Hi, Byron, welcome. Hey are you Are
you at fifty years to study in this book? Now?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Got on fifty one years. Holy Gow, that's amazing, incredible.
You're the right guy to ask these questions then, so listen.
I over the years have heard about these various famous
books from time to time. They claim to have possibly
been written by aliens or higher beings of some sort,
and they're often channeled through a human who writes them
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down and oftentimes even claim that they have no knowledge
of what they were writing. There's things like the Voyage
Manuscript from the fifteenth century. We have no idea what
language or script that is even in. Then there's things
like the Seth Book, which was written in the sixties
by Jane Roberts, who claims entirely written by a discarnate
entity named Seth, and that work actually introduced concepts like multidimensionality,
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parallel realities, and things like that. There's also things like
the Emerald Tablets from the eighth or ninth century, which
is supposedly written by Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian
god both. There are many many more examples. You know,
the Book of Daizan. I'm not pronouncing any of these correct,
I'm sure. But then there's the Osif, the Bible, and
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the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Many of these works
claim to be channeled from ets, Atlanteans, or even angels.
Then there's your Ranchibook, which is probably the most famous
of all of these, which claims to be transmitted by
a super human celestial intelligence and even supposedly shares parallels
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between its cosmology and modern extraterrestrial contact narratives. So, Byron,
let's start here. Can you tell us who you believe
is the actual author of this book?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I actually don't have a belief about that, because the
way it turned out is that there were copyright lawsuits
because a lot of steak here with the Ranchibook. Right, So,
the original copyright was awarded by the copyright office to
the original printer publisher of the Ranch Foundation, and they
had a good reason for that. But if you pressed
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it in a court to show us who's the author
there is no author. Now, if it was channeled by somebody,
the channeler is the author by law, so they could
not show it in any way who channeled it because
it was not channeled it was it was received in
other by other means. So it's in a class by itself.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Even Okay, do you have a suspect of who it
might be? Was it it's some sort of higher being? Right?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, Yeah, The actual authors who brought this forward are
thirty two higher beings actually from the center of the
galaxy and from other places are two.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Different people, thirty two different entities that participated in the south.
Folks have to understand this is a huge book, like
thousands of pages.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Right, yes, twenty ninety six pages and one hundred ninety
six chapters. Chapters are written by different beings, so certain
beings are experts in certain areas, for example. So that's
why we have multiple authors, like an anthology written by
different authors.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Now, when you say beings, are you referring to extraterrestrials
that live off planet? Are you referring to angels? What
are you referring to.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Specifically angelic beings? So it's not like sort of the
old Christian cosmology of angels flying round and wings. It's
ultra sophisticated cosmology with higher worlds at different levels, going
all the way to the center of the galaxy. But also,
as you may remember, Captain Ron, there's also a central
universe that's eternal according to the ranch of book, so
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beings that come from there are eternal beings or they
stem from the eternal realm, meaning they're very very high
advanced being. So there's different categories and that's why you
need you Ranch book to explain the sophisticated nature of
our cosmos.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Now, this book has been under a lot of scrutiny
over the years. What makes you convinced that it's even
what it claims to be.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
For me, it's really the feeling of excellence that I
get when I read it. And that's maybe a little
different from me because I was an English professor at
one point, correcting students papers. After that, I became a
book publisher, some editing people's books, and you can tell
when you do that you know the depth of mind
of the writer and there the scope of what they know.
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And there's nothing like this in world literature that I know,
and I've published over fifty books. I've been a coach
to people who run publishing company, you know, so when
you look at a text like this, you just just showstopping.
So this day, I'm just reading a paper forty nine,
which I want to talk to about, and it's just
like impossible for human to write that. The scope of
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knowledge is way beyond human and it's all plausible and
it's internally consistent. So when you have all that excellence,
you say, well, that's got to be superhuman.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's really interesting that you say that there's this number
of evangelic beings that participated in the creation of this document.
Do they all sort of sound the same or do
they have distinct voices themselves?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
This is not much variation, but for example, don't want
to just mentioned paper forty nine. It sounds a little
bit more like a textbook and is written by this
being who's who's a kind of like a professor in
a higher world that is kind of giving overviews of
big systems. Right, So it sounds like but you may
know that there is a very long biography of Jesus
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and the authors of that are more so there's more
feeling and romance in that writing because it's about Jesus,
it's about his life and its teaching, so that has
a different quality. And by the way, the authors of
that are the indigenous angelic beings of planet Earth.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Wow, there are indigenous angelic beings to Earth or your ranchi.
Isn't that what your antia means? Isn't that the name?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
It just just means it's the name of our planet.
According to the Higher Worlds, every planet has indigenous angels,
and they're actually midway angels. Is they're midway between humans
and seraphim. So seraphim are not local citizens of our planet.
They're here by assignment that can be a very long time.
But these are the beings that are indigenous and they're
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they're like the historians of the planet. They've been here
from day one and so they've remained residents. So they
were present while Jesus was on Earth, and they witnessed
and have their own records. So they wrote part for
the Ranch book.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Interesting, you speak to it in a way that these guys,
these angelic beings are teachers and almost I've heard you
use the word like parent, Like they're almost like a
parent or guardian or overseer of us. In some way.
Is that the impression you get.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, it's a kind of parental in a sense. The
deity is parental, like it's our creator, right, So it's
sort of like our father and mother, and so they
have love for their progeny, and so there is this
sense of love that comes through with the text and
high regard for us and kind of dignifying who we
are because we're related to them.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Now, are there things in this that the authors put
in there that we couldn't have known that maybe humanity
would not be aware of, Like it feels to me,
this would be something that any higher being, whether it's
an angel or an extraterrestrial, would be able to do this.
They could communicate something to humans that we haven't yet discovered,
and then when we do discover it, it would add
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this massive degree of credibility to that work. Is there
something like that? I mean something definitive, not something that's
vaguely interpreted. Is there anything definitive in there that they
put in that we didn't know about when it was
put down?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Just a ton of stuff kept iron because there's archaeological
materials of lots of science, physics, biology, but one in particular,
as you may Or Matt When I was first invited
to speak at the Contact of the Desert, that's fifteen
years ago. I presented the discovery of this archaeological site
that Duranchibook said was off the coast of Syria between
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Syria and Cyprus, and we mounted an expedition and found it.
There were two expeditions. First of one, we sold the
rights to the History Channel. They funded an underwater expedition
and we found there was a big deals in two
thousand and seven, so we had coverage all over the
world for this. We've found artifact one mile down which
is where the Ranch books that it would be. And
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this is pretty far out stuff because it's the location
of Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Wow. Well, that to me adds some credibility to it
right there. If it actually panned out and it is
where the book sad it was, that's pretty interesting testimony
right there. Hey, Brian, we're going to take a quick
break here and we come back. We're going to ask
you what their Urania books specifically says about the nearby
inhabited worlds in our universe. You're listening to Beyond Contact
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on the iHeartRadio and coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network.
We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Byron
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Belitos about the Ranchi book allegedly written by these higher
angelic beings. So what does the uranech your book say
about the nearby inhabited worlds in our universe?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well, it has a ton about it. So it says
that the organization of inhabited planets is pretty sophisticated because
there are seven trillion inhabited planets spread out through all
those galaxies, right, So you already have two Trojan galaxies
out there. But not all galaxies are inhabited, right, So
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that's the other part of the cosmologist fascinating. Certain galaxies
are inhabited that are closer in to the central universe
that I refer to that sort of the source universe.
Some other universe around it are rings of galaxies that
are inhabited. So as you go further out, they're uninhabited.
So that's a preface to answer your question. But so
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the organization is such that they're clusters of galaxies that
are called super universes. They're big clusters, and it's a
little bit disputed. It's not exactly sure what they mean that,
but these are super universes they call them. Each one
has one trillion inhabited planets. So then you break that down.
I'll do that quickly. So the next unit of organization
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is local universes. So our local universe is potential ten
million inhabited worlds. And then break that down.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, you're using a different scale here of local, you know,
and it's may.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Be as big as the Milky Way. It's not exactly
clear whether they mean the Milky Way. I don't think
it does. I think it means a sector of the
Milky Way, a big sector, and so that's particular sector.
And all sectors are divided into subunits, and the lowest
unit is a system of one thousand inhabited planets. So
we're in a system of every planet's in a system.
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So there's a distinction. Mainly. Range book in this paper
forty nine I alluded to that says that you don't
have to have an atmosphere in order to have life.
You can have non atmospheric echis right. They can come
from worlds that have no atmosphere. They're called non breather worlds.
You can also have an atmosphere like Venus which is
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not like ours, is full of all this dust and
electrical radiations that makes it it possible for our kind
of bodies. But it states that those worlds are called
super breather worlds. There's worlds like that where you can
have life, so it's possible. Personally, I think it's very
likely that there's life on Venus that I have no
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proof of that. It just infer from what I know.
Those are super breathers. But on Mars, where you have
almost no atmosphere, there would be a type of being
as different, and then on a world with none at all.
So the retchbook says definitively that there's a non breather
world in local proximity, meaning in our Solar system. So
some of us think it may be one of the
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worlds around Saturn, for one of the moons of Saturn,
for example.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The fact that they're mentioning planets and millions of worlds
and tens of millions of worlds, that's something one hundred
and twenty years ago we didn't know. We didn't know
that there were other planets definitively till thirty five years ago,
so that would be one of those things that's mentioned
in the book that we did not know about.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, no, really, I mean it's way ahead because that
was promulgated in the late thirties and forties. The Ranch
Book is way ahead of all of this. Back when
we Ranch Book first coming through, we didn't even know
there were galaxies. It was only cable as you know
that Hubble and his associates discovered the fact that there
were other galaxies, right so, right, that was around the time.
So the Ranch Books said, well are millions of galaxies?
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HA said that long before, and same with planets, and
so they're way ahead on the number of inhabiteds.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I mean, that's a piece of credible thing that I
was looking for right there, because you know, like you're saying,
when this came out, the entirety of the universe was
thought to be our little galaxy. So the fact that
there's other galaxies and it says that in there, I
think speaks to some credibility for the book.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And there's other items. If I may mention Blaze. It
mayn't sound like a big deal to everybody, but the
fact that that we have tectonic plates on the Earth
and that they shift and they move around, that was
not known when the ranchibook came out at all. It
was had been suggested, but what had been rejected by scientists.
But by the sixties and definitely the seventies, it was
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accepted that there was continental you know, continental drift. That theory.
Your anchibook is the first place to say there was
continental drift twenty or thirty years prior to that. And
there's a kind of a famous geophysicist that wrote a
book a few years ago said well, I don't know
who these Urantia book people are, but they got this
thing nailed, and I don't know how they could have
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done it, because you know, it shows you know, the
ractebook says this is how you know, Africa separated from
Latin America and Pangaea is what we now call it
instance big mass of land, and then it separated because
of TikTok. See your anchibook said that long before that's
done by itself is a pretty major proof.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, that's that's pretty incredible. I like that. Do you
think any of these intelligences that they're referring to, these
tens of millions of other beings, are the ones in
fact that are visiting Earth in US?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Big question? Thank you for these great questions. There's a
consideration I have and many of us have, which is this.
For example, you know, I was on that panel at
CD last time with Richard Dolan. We talked about USO's
right underwater ships. As you may know, I question that
saying that if they're there, I mean they are there,
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you know seven or eight different locations that he has identified.
If they're there, they may not be friendly, because if
they were friendly, they would have diplomatic relations with us.
So why am I saying this. I'm saying this because
we're taught in the Wrench a book that there was
a rebellion of the angels that broached in the Bible
in Genesis Genesis sixty four, that there was a rebellion
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of the angels and on certain planets. You Wrench book
says certain planets are like our planet. We had a
rebellion of our angels. That's why we're such a backward world.
That's why we have so much poverty and war and suffering.
So there are thirty six other planets that joined this rebellion.
It's called the loose for rebellion, and those planets, some
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of those planets may be the ones that were advanced
enough to have interstellar travel, and they're the ones that
are here. That's one possibility. The other possibilities that they're
benign and they've been here for eons. It's kind of
what Richard Gola suggested, that they're doing it by right
of that they're here first, and so they're surveiling us
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for benign reasons.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Does the book address why these et stay so clandestine
even if they've been here before us? Why would they
just not reveal themselves at all? Ever? Is there any
talk of that?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
No, it doesn't go so much into the euphology space,
because you know, it's revealing enough to say, all these
plants are out there. You know, it's previous to our dilemma.
Really that begins in the fifties forties. But there was
later transmissions that we haven't talked about that are in dispute,
that are we from the Ranch book itself, but they're
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from the beings. They came in the eighties and nineties,
and that's a whole other topic, and they stated, yeah,
that there are these ets that are that are visiting us.
And the sort of stuff we talk about has been
affirmed by these later telepathic transmissions.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And to do those sync up with the you know,
with the alien encounters that people claim to have had
and their even abduction experiences.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
They do a little bit. But what we found in
these dialogues with these higher beings come to teach your ranchos.
In other words, they're actually like professors of the ranchibook,
but they're higher beings, right, and they're telepathically taking questions,
and they evaded the questions about UFOs because it was
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more like something that we're supposed to do ourselves. We're
supposed to figure this out using the context of the
Rancho book. And that's what I've tried to do in
my work now for thirty years, is to say, yeah,
some of them may not be benign. Well, I was
saying that for a long time, So over time we
began to learn that there were great draco reptilions and others,
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But we still don't have affirmation that some of them
come from the so called rebellion planets. If they do,
they're very close to us. They're our local system. So
remember the local system of inhabited wolves is a few
light years away, so they could easily perhaps have come
here their rogue.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
That close local system of ten million worlds, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
There's the ten million, then there's the subset which is
one thousand, So are.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Icy so that is getting more local? Sure? Yeah, these
are just such giant scales. They're like beyond geological even,
you know. Okay, let's take a break here, when would
come right back. We're going to ask Byron if he
believes these ets have physically visited Earth beyond just being
channeled through consciousness communications. You're listening to Beyond Contact on
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the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
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We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Byron. Byron,
what about this visitation to Earth? Do you think these
ets have physically been here? You mentioned earlier that maybe
somebody had been here even before us. Do you think
that there's been a physical presence of ets all along
or have they visited here or is it limited to
consciousness communication?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Captain, let me address that from the unique perspective of
the Ranch book revelation about visitations. So, the visitations we've had,
which I've spoken about at Contact in the Desert in
twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen were of two types. There
was a type that came here half a million years
ago that we would consider to be like extraterrestrials because
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they were physical form. So this is what Sitchen, Sagarai,
Sitch and others I believe would would say, are the Atnaki.
It's complicated, okay. So the Ranch Book says, like Sitchen,
Sitchen said it was about four hundred and fifty thousand
years ago, as you right, Ranch book says more like
five hundred thousand years ago. So this first visitation was
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a very benign visitation. You know, things are really really
primitive back then. They didn't have you know, the wheel,
they didn't have alphabets, that didn't have so the these
higher beings, it came in physical form. They built a
world capital. That was what was supposed to happen. So
every planet has a capital city established by ets, if
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you will, the kind of hybrid et angels actually in
the Ranch book, so that that was there for two
hundred and fifty thousand years. So it's similar to Sitchen
he said it was about I think he says tw
hundred and fifty thousand years ago. He says this kind
of rebellion, right, So the Ranch Book says the same thing,
just says there was a rebellion about that time, so
it broke up this original sort of location the city
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and it went to pieces, and that's where you get
the legend of the Nephilim in the Bible. The ET's
that were here for benign reasons, some of them went rogue.
They went with the rebellion that I mentioned before, the
looser rebellion. They became parties to the rebellion. So they
became what we call the nephilm, And indeed they were
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larger in size. This is a big visitation. There were
one hundred of them, and sixty of them went rogue,
and then the forty were the ones that didn't, and
so they remained too. So very very poor records of
this in the cuneiform tablets, there's all kinds of reference,
but it's all conflated with later later developments. The second
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visitation is hard to believe, but it's an et like
because it's physical. It's Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve
would seem to be a myth, but the Rancher book
makes a very very big point of saying there really
was an anim and even that they have the special mission.
So the mission is to inter marry their children with humans.
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That is to say, their progeny Adam and Eve are
reproducing couple their children. Remember the Bible, there's a little
reference to their children, right, So their children would populate
this zone called Eden. Right, so Eden we think is Cypress,
the island of Cyprus. Okay, there's a section of Cypress
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that has collapsed much later and it's now deep underwater
right next to Cypress and across from Syria that I
mentioned earlier, that that that was actually researched by our
team and we found artifacts. So anyway, so these so
it's hard to explain in a few minutes, but their
children would to fan out throughout the world and intermary
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and so there'll be a higher DNA injection caused by
this sort of et presence of Adam and Eve. So
their children were really off planet children that are populating
the Earth. Why is this because biology, those of you
you know, did your biology in college, whatever you you
evolved to a certain plateau and then their leaps in
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the in the DNA in the genetics. Right, So this
couple is meant to induce DNA evolution much more, much
more quickly. So certain attributes are brought into the gene
pool to the Adam and Eve children, such as humor,
you know, spirituality, musical ability. These things are injected from outside.
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So it's it's it's quite a story, it is.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And you know, it's very interesting to me how we're
talking about these things that came out after their ranch
of book. Zachar Arya Sitchen is one of them. And
you keep bringing up parallels to his work based on
the Sumerian text, of course, And isn't that interesting how
it's already in the Urranchi book and then here, you know,
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seventy years later his work came out, and you seem
to think that there's a lot of ties.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I think there's a parallel in that his timeline, however,
not much more because his interpretation is, as you may know, Captain,
he has been in a way debunked by various critics,
including people that actually read uniform tablets.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Actually absolutely true. But also the Urranchi book has a
lot of critics and people debunk that oftentimes, don't.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
They They try, but they don't get far. I mean
there's very few. I mean, the only ones that really
do it are fundamentalist Christians, you know, And I've been
around academia in all sorts of places. I've never had
anybody try to refute anything particular other than fundamentalists. And
the way it's dealt with is by ignoring it.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
To be honest, gotcha, I want to ask you this,
How do near death experiencers compare it to what said
in the ur Anti Text?
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Oh, that's a great question. The Uranchia text is maybe
the best source certainly that I've ever seen about life
after death. And I've looked at the literature and I
wrote a whole book on it. I don't know if
you know that. It's called Your Evolving Soul. I wrote
that in twenty seventeen, pretty well received book. And so
I do comparison, kind of comparative. You know, what we
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know from the Bible, for example, about life after death
is like a fairy tale. It's almost nothing. The Rancher
book is vastly, vastly more information about it, very coherent stuff.
So I was at the Near Death Experience Conference, as
you may know, was in Chicago recently. Actually we had
a Urancha booth there and I didn't speak there. But
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but you know, those scenarios of meeting your angels in
the afterlife is affirmed by the Ranch Book, So this
is kind of an affirmation. The Ranch Book says that
you have a kind of life review, and so do
these endes. But the Ranch Books goes even much further
a life review than the NDEs. It says, it's actually
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goes on for quite a long time in your afterlife.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting the timing of this regarding
after World War One and before World War two. It's
just an interesting time that this book came out. Do
you think that the ets and or angels have influenced
human evolution, you know, culture, religion at these key moments
in history?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Another great question. The Ranche Book is really a product
of post World War two, although it was initiated after
World War One, and in my writings tread to show
that it's already stayed in the Ranch Book and elsewhere
that when you're in great crisis, that's when your parents intervene. Right,
So if you if you're very old, your mom and
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dad now in their seventies are going to help you out, right.
So the same thing with celestial beings. So when you
have something like a genocide like the Holocaust, you know
when you're at the bottom, you've hit bottom, sort of
like being an alcoholic hit bottom, that's when you need
your higher power. So that's why the Ranch Book is
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timed for the greatest crisis in human history. It was
really World War two my view, So.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Then I should should expect them to land on the
White House lawn in the next thirty days based on
the world. The world right now, right, I mean what
you were interviewing. Okay, when we come back, we're going
to ask Byron about his thoughts on government disclosure, another
big thing happening in our world. You're listening to be
on Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal podcast network. We are back on Beyond Contact speaking
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with Byron now. We want to ask him about government disclosure.
Why do you think they've been so silent on the
UFO issue.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I'm in the day she had camp the blast, which
is that you know there's a criminality behind us. I mean,
that's what we all know. I mean those of us
go to c I, td as Sea or tred Dole
and the others have exposed that this is criminalized behavior.
And also I think there's another piece that is in
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a way relevant which is we're not really ready yet.
So much for disclosure. Let's put this. We're not ready
for disclosure of how deeply criminal it is. That's one piece,
it's like hard to believe. But we're also not really
ready for disclosure of who they are, you know, Draco reptility,
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you know, whoever the hell they are. That they are
not benign, although the benign ones are here too, So
this is complicated stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It is what do you think that the knowledge keepers
are afraid of? Besides the criminality, Is it that that
we're not ready? Is that what you think it is?
Because people do say they don't let this out because
humanity is not ready, religion is not ready, everything's going
to break down. Do you think that's why they're holding
this information?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, you know, I was not unsympathetic with this. The
story about the Collins Elite, you know that luellas Onto
talked about and others have talked about. Nick Redford has
a wonderful book on that. It's a mind bowing book.
That there are Christians and the Pentagon who feel that
ets are demonic and they behind the scenes have blocked
a lot of the stuff. You know, as a practicing
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Christian myself, I think that there is a demonic element,
which is the Dracoreptilians, because according to rancherbook, they're demonic angels, right,
so they work together with demonic ets. The scary stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I got to tell you. In the last year, I
have heard over and over how often religious figures seem
to overlamp with extraterrestrials, like that there's some confusion or
some tie in between extraterrestrial beings, off world beings and
those from spiritual realms, like angels and demons. They're often
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associated together, and even some people talk about that the
knowledge keepers or whatever do think that these are demonic
and that's why they don't want to release this information.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I think that's a part of it. I don't think
that the Collins will lead. That kind of element is huge,
but it's like a percentage of it. But I think
the other thing is a sincere feeling that it would
be so shocking that they would be kind of chaos.
And I'll put it this way, as we got a
kind of purveyor of the Rancho book. It's shocking even
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this book, you can't believe it. I mean, in universities
it's just banned more or less. So why is that?
Because I just can't handle they're just not at the
evolution of the consciousness is just not and it is
it is just not.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
If it's a lot to swallow, if you're outside of
this community or you're new to this material, it certainly
is a lot to swallow in your view, what's the
most credible piece of evidence that the US government's hiding
non human intelligence technology?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Well, the whistleblowers of course have given us, you know,
certainly verbal testimony. They haven't shown us much obviously, so
really the USOS, I mean that that story the Dolan
develops is very vivid, it's very compelling, but all of citing,
you know, you just put it all together. And the
fact that other governments have disclosed I mean Brazil, what
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is it, France.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
They have a now really formal, full on big d disclosure.
They haven't really come out and definitively said yes, this
is real, Yes we have this, or here's a body
or here's a ship. Nobody's done that. They're just more
open to it than we are. And we've they've released
some documents, but not well.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
On to correct. Yeah, I think that it's imminent. I mean,
it's certainly, you know, you'll get Chris Bledsoe and the
phenomena around ye are pretty compelling at the moment.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Compelling to you. But I think there's a big part
of the population that don't find that compelling at all,
and they don't find there's your ranch of book compelling that.
A lot of people don't feel this is enough to
move the needle because it doesn't move the needle. We
have these movies come out, we have these trust conferences,
and we have these whistleblowers, and the people in the
community seem to really get excited about it, but it
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does not seem to move the needle overall for the
vast majority of the population.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Well, I think, like like genetics, you know, there are
leaps genetically that happen that are sudden, and I think
this is the time for that, because there's a platform
that's been developed by you know, people like you, you know,
to bring this forward. And I think that in the
next year or two, the population is going to leap
into this.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Really do really, so you're you're with Steve Bassett, you
really think we are imminently close to actual government disclosure.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I wouldn't put it that way, I'd say it's it's
it's getting to the point that the population, you know,
the constituency, the government is going to demand it as
it has been, and it's going to become critical mass
in the next two years. Because I think the ETS themselves,
and this is what you get from the GFL transmissions,
The ETS are orchestrating this because they feel it's time.
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They want to disclose themselves, and so they're trying to
develop the consciousness so that they can do their job,
which is, you know, to help us. It is urgent.
I mean, you can't wait anymore. Really, it's like we're
at bottom, and so that it has to happen because
the nine Ets are present and they're here, they're assigned
according to the ranch of view of things. They're assigned
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by the angelic host, by the higher worlds. They are
mandated to come and turn this thing around with us.
And so that's why I think this is the moment. So, yeah,
Steve Bassett lives near me here in Washington, d C.
We talk about this all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, So you do think that they're playing a role
in this disclosure, like they're ready and they're nudging it
along again.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Invite people to go to Exoreality's substack and see my
twenty one page research paper where I try to show
and justify why the Galactic Federation of Light is so active.
I mean they're hyperactive. There are two big transmissions a
day on YouTube and they're very compelling, although there's lots
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of flaws also in some of the content. But yeah,
I think that it's you know, I'm a guy who
follows politics every day. I live in washingt d C.
The crisis point, we're not going to survive. We're going
to be in self destruction of spiral and a die
off climate from climate change to you know, nipper war.
There must be an intervention right now, and it is happening.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
If you're not part of the cabal or whoever holds
this secret knowledge, I don't see why anybody would be
against disclosure. You may not believe in it or whatever,
but why would you be against it? You know, wouldn't
most people just be like, well, if you have something,
tell us, well, it's put it this way.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
I don't think it's black and white a little bit.
Disagree with Stephen Bassett, you know that I think it
should be stage dissemination, but it should be done behind
me by people who have studied, thought this through. Then. Look,
you've got to be compassionate for those and you know
some live in my household here who can't handle it.
The rapidity has to be increased very rapidly now because
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it's too late. It's like late in the game God
to get this thing out because I think about it.
Free energy, just that alone, you know this claim about
med beds, These things have to be We need free
energy right now and that can be disseminated. What's this
that's part of disclosure really, But I don't believe in
catastrophic as I think Danny schunkildre catastrophic just because but
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but it's got to be. It's got to be strong.
And that's why, you know, I want to thank you
Captain Rodd for doing C I T D. It's it's
a fabulous service.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
You know, we we we all love it, we all
be all just compelled to do it. Would you say
that the official disclosure process aligns with your ANCHI text?
Is there anything in there about that?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I think the spirit of it aligns with your anti
text because your anti texts about a friend. It's about
the universe is friendly, there's a loving God.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But it also speaks about a federation of all planets,
right that that that they participate in that, which is
something we hear from certain contact ees claimed that there's
a federation.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Right Well, your arch book doesn't talk about a federation
of planets, but it does say that all planets, you know,
once they're advanced, they network and they but they don't
speak of ships coming here. But that's inevitable. It's just obvious,
you know.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
So one of the big problems with uphologies they have
they don't have a cosmology like the Rancher book. They're
kind of all like a Bible cosmology or something. I mean,
they're using Einstein, you and you know, physics and that
sort of thing. But the ranch book is informing us
that there are tons of inhabited worlds.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
As along with the cosmology of uphology. I'll tell you
that we need to stop there. Thanks a lot for
coming on, Byron. I appreciate you sharing everything. How can
people find you?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
You can find me at my substack. It's called XO
Realities e XO Xorealities dot substack.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
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As we talked with the top experts. Hi, and welcome
to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today we're
speaking with Byron Belisos. Byron is an award winning book
publisher and an author, editor, journalist, and educator. He is
a leading proponent of the famed Granchi book, which he
has studied for over forty years now maybe even fifty years,
(01:30):
we'll ask him. He has been training in philosophy, psychology, history,
and theology. He is also versed in the UFO topic
as well as government disclosure beyond its ties to just
the Urancha book. Hi, Byron, welcome. Hey are you Are
you at fifty years to study in this book? Now?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Got on fifty one years. Holy Gow, that's amazing, incredible.
You're the right guy to ask these questions then, so listen.
I over the years have heard about these various famous
books from time to time. They claim to have possibly
been written by aliens or higher beings of some sort,
and they're often channeled through a human who writes them
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down and oftentimes even claim that they have no knowledge
of what they were writing. There's things like the Voyage
Manuscript from the fifteenth century. We have no idea what
language or script that is even in. Then there's things
like the Seth Book, which was written in the sixties
by Jane Roberts, who claims entirely written by a discarnate
entity named Seth, and that work actually introduced concepts like multidimensionality,
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parallel realities, and things like that. There's also things like
the Emerald Tablets from the eighth or ninth century, which
is supposedly written by Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian
god both. There are many many more examples. You know,
the Book of Daizan. I'm not pronouncing any of these correct,
I'm sure. But then there's the Osif, the Bible, and
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the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Many of these works
claim to be channeled from ets, Atlanteans, or even angels.
Then there's your Ranchibook, which is probably the most famous
of all of these, which claims to be transmitted by
a super human celestial intelligence and even supposedly shares parallels
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between its cosmology and modern extraterrestrial contact narratives. So, Byron,
let's start here. Can you tell us who you believe
is the actual author of this book?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I actually don't have a belief about that, because the
way it turned out is that there were copyright lawsuits
because a lot of steak here with the Ranchibook. Right, So,
the original copyright was awarded by the copyright office to
the original printer publisher of the Ranch Foundation, and they
had a good reason for that. But if you pressed
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it in a court to show us who's the author
there is no author. Now, if it was channeled by somebody,
the channeler is the author by law, so they could
not show it in any way who channeled it because
it was not channeled it was it was received in
other by other means. So it's in a class by itself.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Even Okay, do you have a suspect of who it
might be? Was it it's some sort of higher being? Right?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, Yeah, The actual authors who brought this forward are
thirty two higher beings actually from the center of the
galaxy and from other places are two.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Different people, thirty two different entities that participated in the south.
Folks have to understand this is a huge book, like
thousands of pages.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Right, yes, twenty ninety six pages and one hundred ninety
six chapters. Chapters are written by different beings, so certain
beings are experts in certain areas, for example. So that's
why we have multiple authors, like an anthology written by
different authors.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Now, when you say beings, are you referring to extraterrestrials
that live off planet? Are you referring to angels? What
are you referring to.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Specifically angelic beings? So it's not like sort of the
old Christian cosmology of angels flying round and wings. It's
ultra sophisticated cosmology with higher worlds at different levels, going
all the way to the center of the galaxy. But also,
as you may remember, Captain Ron, there's also a central
universe that's eternal according to the ranch of book, so
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beings that come from there are eternal beings or they
stem from the eternal realm, meaning they're very very high
advanced being. So there's different categories and that's why you
need you Ranch book to explain the sophisticated nature of
our cosmos.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Now, this book has been under a lot of scrutiny
over the years. What makes you convinced that it's even
what it claims to be.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
For me, it's really the feeling of excellence that I
get when I read it. And that's maybe a little
different from me because I was an English professor at
one point, correcting students papers. After that, I became a
book publisher, some editing people's books, and you can tell
when you do that you know the depth of mind
of the writer and there the scope of what they know.
(06:06):
And there's nothing like this in world literature that I know,
and I've published over fifty books. I've been a coach
to people who run publishing company, you know, so when
you look at a text like this, you just just showstopping.
So this day, I'm just reading a paper forty nine,
which I want to talk to about, and it's just
like impossible for human to write that. The scope of
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knowledge is way beyond human and it's all plausible and
it's internally consistent. So when you have all that excellence,
you say, well, that's got to be superhuman.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's really interesting that you say that there's this number
of evangelic beings that participated in the creation of this document.
Do they all sort of sound the same or do
they have distinct voices themselves?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
This is not much variation, but for example, don't want
to just mentioned paper forty nine. It sounds a little
bit more like a textbook and is written by this
being who's who's a kind of like a professor in
a higher world that is kind of giving overviews of
big systems. Right, So it sounds like but you may
know that there is a very long biography of Jesus
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and the authors of that are more so there's more
feeling and romance in that writing because it's about Jesus,
it's about his life and its teaching, so that has
a different quality. And by the way, the authors of
that are the indigenous angelic beings of planet Earth.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Wow, there are indigenous angelic beings to Earth or your ranchi.
Isn't that what your antia means? Isn't that the name?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
It just just means it's the name of our planet.
According to the Higher Worlds, every planet has indigenous angels,
and they're actually midway angels. Is they're midway between humans
and seraphim. So seraphim are not local citizens of our planet.
They're here by assignment that can be a very long time.
But these are the beings that are indigenous and they're
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they're like the historians of the planet. They've been here
from day one and so they've remained residents. So they
were present while Jesus was on Earth, and they witnessed
and have their own records. So they wrote part for
the Ranch book.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Interesting, you speak to it in a way that these guys,
these angelic beings are teachers and almost I've heard you
use the word like parent, Like they're almost like a
parent or guardian or overseer of us. In some way.
Is that the impression you get.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, it's a kind of parental in a sense. The
deity is parental, like it's our creator, right, So it's
sort of like our father and mother, and so they
have love for their progeny, and so there is this
sense of love that comes through with the text and
high regard for us and kind of dignifying who we
are because we're related to them.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Now, are there things in this that the authors put
in there that we couldn't have known that maybe humanity
would not be aware of, Like it feels to me,
this would be something that any higher being, whether it's
an angel or an extraterrestrial, would be able to do this.
They could communicate something to humans that we haven't yet discovered,
and then when we do discover it, it would add
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this massive degree of credibility to that work. Is there
something like that? I mean something definitive, not something that's
vaguely interpreted. Is there anything definitive in there that they
put in that we didn't know about when it was
put down?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Just a ton of stuff kept iron because there's archaeological
materials of lots of science, physics, biology, but one in particular,
as you may Or Matt When I was first invited
to speak at the Contact of the Desert, that's fifteen
years ago. I presented the discovery of this archaeological site
that Duranchibook said was off the coast of Syria between
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Syria and Cyprus, and we mounted an expedition and found it.
There were two expeditions. First of one, we sold the
rights to the History Channel. They funded an underwater expedition
and we found there was a big deals in two
thousand and seven, so we had coverage all over the
world for this. We've found artifact one mile down which
is where the Ranch books that it would be. And
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this is pretty far out stuff because it's the location
of Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Wow. Well, that to me adds some credibility to it
right there. If it actually panned out and it is
where the book sad it was, that's pretty interesting testimony
right there. Hey, Brian, we're going to take a quick
break here and we come back. We're going to ask
you what their Urania books specifically says about the nearby
inhabited worlds in our universe. You're listening to Beyond Contact
(10:30):
on the iHeartRadio and coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network.
We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Byron
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Belitos about the Ranchi book allegedly written by these higher
angelic beings. So what does the uranech your book say
about the nearby inhabited worlds in our universe?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well, it has a ton about it. So it says
that the organization of inhabited planets is pretty sophisticated because
there are seven trillion inhabited planets spread out through all
those galaxies, right, So you already have two Trojan galaxies
out there. But not all galaxies are inhabited, right, So
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that's the other part of the cosmologist fascinating. Certain galaxies
are inhabited that are closer in to the central universe
that I refer to that sort of the source universe.
Some other universe around it are rings of galaxies that
are inhabited. So as you go further out, they're uninhabited.
So that's a preface to answer your question. But so
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the organization is such that they're clusters of galaxies that
are called super universes. They're big clusters, and it's a
little bit disputed. It's not exactly sure what they mean that,
but these are super universes they call them. Each one
has one trillion inhabited planets. So then you break that down.
I'll do that quickly. So the next unit of organization
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is local universes. So our local universe is potential ten
million inhabited worlds. And then break that down.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, you're using a different scale here of local, you know,
and it's may.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Be as big as the Milky Way. It's not exactly
clear whether they mean the Milky Way. I don't think
it does. I think it means a sector of the
Milky Way, a big sector, and so that's particular sector.
And all sectors are divided into subunits, and the lowest
unit is a system of one thousand inhabited planets. So
we're in a system of every planet's in a system.
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So there's a distinction. Mainly. Range book in this paper
forty nine I alluded to that says that you don't
have to have an atmosphere in order to have life.
You can have non atmospheric echis right. They can come
from worlds that have no atmosphere. They're called non breather worlds.
You can also have an atmosphere like Venus which is
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not like ours, is full of all this dust and
electrical radiations that makes it it possible for our kind
of bodies. But it states that those worlds are called
super breather worlds. There's worlds like that where you can
have life, so it's possible. Personally, I think it's very
likely that there's life on Venus that I have no
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proof of that. It just infer from what I know.
Those are super breathers. But on Mars, where you have
almost no atmosphere, there would be a type of being
as different, and then on a world with none at all.
So the retchbook says definitively that there's a non breather
world in local proximity, meaning in our Solar system. So
some of us think it may be one of the
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worlds around Saturn, for one of the moons of Saturn,
for example.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
The fact that they're mentioning planets and millions of worlds
and tens of millions of worlds, that's something one hundred
and twenty years ago we didn't know. We didn't know
that there were other planets definitively till thirty five years ago,
so that would be one of those things that's mentioned
in the book that we did not know about.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, no, really, I mean it's way ahead because that
was promulgated in the late thirties and forties. The Ranch
Book is way ahead of all of this. Back when
we Ranch Book first coming through, we didn't even know
there were galaxies. It was only cable as you know
that Hubble and his associates discovered the fact that there
were other galaxies, right so, right, that was around the time.
So the Ranch Books said, well are millions of galaxies?
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HA said that long before, and same with planets, and
so they're way ahead on the number of inhabiteds.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I mean, that's a piece of credible thing that I
was looking for right there, because you know, like you're saying,
when this came out, the entirety of the universe was
thought to be our little galaxy. So the fact that
there's other galaxies and it says that in there, I
think speaks to some credibility for the book.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And there's other items. If I may mention Blaze. It
mayn't sound like a big deal to everybody, but the
fact that that we have tectonic plates on the Earth
and that they shift and they move around, that was
not known when the ranchibook came out at all. It
was had been suggested, but what had been rejected by scientists.
But by the sixties and definitely the seventies, it was
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accepted that there was continental you know, continental drift. That theory.
Your anchibook is the first place to say there was
continental drift twenty or thirty years prior to that. And
there's a kind of a famous geophysicist that wrote a
book a few years ago said well, I don't know
who these Urantia book people are, but they got this
thing nailed, and I don't know how they could have
(15:32):
done it, because you know, it shows you know, the
ractebook says this is how you know, Africa separated from
Latin America and Pangaea is what we now call it
instance big mass of land, and then it separated because
of TikTok. See your anchibook said that long before that's
done by itself is a pretty major proof.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, that's that's pretty incredible. I like that. Do you
think any of these intelligences that they're referring to, these
tens of millions of other beings, are the ones in
fact that are visiting Earth in US?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Big question? Thank you for these great questions. There's a
consideration I have and many of us have, which is this.
For example, you know, I was on that panel at
CD last time with Richard Dolan. We talked about USO's
right underwater ships. As you may know, I question that
saying that if they're there, I mean they are there,
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you know seven or eight different locations that he has identified.
If they're there, they may not be friendly, because if
they were friendly, they would have diplomatic relations with us.
So why am I saying this. I'm saying this because
we're taught in the Wrench a book that there was
a rebellion of the angels that broached in the Bible
in Genesis Genesis sixty four, that there was a rebellion
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of the angels and on certain planets. You Wrench book
says certain planets are like our planet. We had a
rebellion of our angels. That's why we're such a backward world.
That's why we have so much poverty and war and suffering.
So there are thirty six other planets that joined this rebellion.
It's called the loose for rebellion, and those planets, some
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of those planets may be the ones that were advanced
enough to have interstellar travel, and they're the ones that
are here. That's one possibility. The other possibilities that they're
benign and they've been here for eons. It's kind of
what Richard Gola suggested, that they're doing it by right
of that they're here first, and so they're surveiling us
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for benign reasons.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Does the book address why these et stay so clandestine
even if they've been here before us? Why would they
just not reveal themselves at all? Ever? Is there any
talk of that?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
No, it doesn't go so much into the euphology space,
because you know, it's revealing enough to say, all these
plants are out there. You know, it's previous to our dilemma.
Really that begins in the fifties forties. But there was
later transmissions that we haven't talked about that are in dispute,
that are we from the Ranch book itself, but they're
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from the beings. They came in the eighties and nineties,
and that's a whole other topic, and they stated, yeah,
that there are these ets that are that are visiting us.
And the sort of stuff we talk about has been
affirmed by these later telepathic transmissions.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And to do those sync up with the you know,
with the alien encounters that people claim to have had
and their even abduction experiences.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
They do a little bit. But what we found in
these dialogues with these higher beings come to teach your ranchos.
In other words, they're actually like professors of the ranchibook,
but they're higher beings, right, and they're telepathically taking questions,
and they evaded the questions about UFOs because it was
(18:42):
more like something that we're supposed to do ourselves. We're
supposed to figure this out using the context of the
Rancho book. And that's what I've tried to do in
my work now for thirty years, is to say, yeah,
some of them may not be benign. Well, I was
saying that for a long time, So over time we
began to learn that there were great draco reptilions and others,
(19:04):
But we still don't have affirmation that some of them
come from the so called rebellion planets. If they do,
they're very close to us. They're our local system. So
remember the local system of inhabited wolves is a few
light years away, so they could easily perhaps have come
here their rogue.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
That close local system of ten million worlds, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
There's the ten million, then there's the subset which is
one thousand, So are.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Icy so that is getting more local? Sure? Yeah, these
are just such giant scales. They're like beyond geological even,
you know. Okay, let's take a break here, when would
come right back. We're going to ask Byron if he
believes these ets have physically visited Earth beyond just being
channeled through consciousness communications. You're listening to Beyond Contact on
(19:55):
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
(20:16):
We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Byron. Byron,
what about this visitation to Earth? Do you think these
ets have physically been here? You mentioned earlier that maybe
somebody had been here even before us. Do you think
that there's been a physical presence of ets all along
or have they visited here or is it limited to
consciousness communication?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Captain, let me address that from the unique perspective of
the Ranch book revelation about visitations. So, the visitations we've had,
which I've spoken about at Contact in the Desert in
twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen were of two types. There
was a type that came here half a million years
ago that we would consider to be like extraterrestrials because
(20:59):
they were physical form. So this is what Sitchen, Sagarai,
Sitch and others I believe would would say, are the Atnaki.
It's complicated, okay. So the Ranch Book says, like Sitchen,
Sitchen said it was about four hundred and fifty thousand
years ago, as you right, Ranch book says more like
five hundred thousand years ago. So this first visitation was
(21:20):
a very benign visitation. You know, things are really really
primitive back then. They didn't have you know, the wheel,
they didn't have alphabets, that didn't have so the these
higher beings, it came in physical form. They built a
world capital. That was what was supposed to happen. So
every planet has a capital city established by ets, if
(21:42):
you will, the kind of hybrid et angels actually in
the Ranch book, so that that was there for two
hundred and fifty thousand years. So it's similar to Sitchen
he said it was about I think he says tw
hundred and fifty thousand years ago. He says this kind
of rebellion, right, So the Ranch Book says the same thing,
just says there was a rebellion about that time, so
it broke up this original sort of location the city
(22:04):
and it went to pieces, and that's where you get
the legend of the Nephilim in the Bible. The ET's
that were here for benign reasons, some of them went rogue.
They went with the rebellion that I mentioned before, the
looser rebellion. They became parties to the rebellion. So they
became what we call the nephilm, And indeed they were
(22:24):
larger in size. This is a big visitation. There were
one hundred of them, and sixty of them went rogue,
and then the forty were the ones that didn't, and
so they remained too. So very very poor records of
this in the cuneiform tablets, there's all kinds of reference,
but it's all conflated with later later developments. The second
(22:46):
visitation is hard to believe, but it's an et like
because it's physical. It's Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve
would seem to be a myth, but the Rancher book
makes a very very big point of saying there really
was an anim and even that they have the special mission.
So the mission is to inter marry their children with humans.
(23:11):
That is to say, their progeny Adam and Eve are
reproducing couple their children. Remember the Bible, there's a little
reference to their children, right, So their children would populate
this zone called Eden. Right, so Eden we think is Cypress,
the island of Cyprus. Okay, there's a section of Cypress
(23:35):
that has collapsed much later and it's now deep underwater
right next to Cypress and across from Syria that I
mentioned earlier, that that that was actually researched by our
team and we found artifacts. So anyway, so these so
it's hard to explain in a few minutes, but their
children would to fan out throughout the world and intermary
(24:00):
and so there'll be a higher DNA injection caused by
this sort of et presence of Adam and Eve. So
their children were really off planet children that are populating
the Earth. Why is this because biology, those of you
you know, did your biology in college, whatever you you
evolved to a certain plateau and then their leaps in
(24:24):
the in the DNA in the genetics. Right, So this
couple is meant to induce DNA evolution much more, much
more quickly. So certain attributes are brought into the gene
pool to the Adam and Eve children, such as humor,
you know, spirituality, musical ability. These things are injected from outside.
(24:51):
So it's it's it's quite a story, it is.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And you know, it's very interesting to me how we're
talking about these things that came out after their ranch
of book. Zachar Arya Sitchen is one of them. And
you keep bringing up parallels to his work based on
the Sumerian text, of course, And isn't that interesting how
it's already in the Urranchi book and then here, you know,
(25:15):
seventy years later his work came out, and you seem
to think that there's a lot of ties.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I think there's a parallel in that his timeline, however,
not much more because his interpretation is, as you may know, Captain,
he has been in a way debunked by various critics,
including people that actually read uniform tablets.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Actually absolutely true. But also the Urranchi book has a
lot of critics and people debunk that oftentimes, don't.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
They They try, but they don't get far. I mean
there's very few. I mean, the only ones that really
do it are fundamentalist Christians, you know, And I've been
around academia in all sorts of places. I've never had
anybody try to refute anything particular other than fundamentalists. And
the way it's dealt with is by ignoring it.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
To be honest, gotcha, I want to ask you this,
How do near death experiencers compare it to what said
in the ur Anti Text?
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Oh, that's a great question. The Uranchia text is maybe
the best source certainly that I've ever seen about life
after death. And I've looked at the literature and I
wrote a whole book on it. I don't know if
you know that. It's called Your Evolving Soul. I wrote
that in twenty seventeen, pretty well received book. And so
I do comparison, kind of comparative. You know, what we
(26:39):
know from the Bible, for example, about life after death
is like a fairy tale. It's almost nothing. The Rancher
book is vastly, vastly more information about it, very coherent stuff.
So I was at the Near Death Experience Conference, as
you may know, was in Chicago recently. Actually we had
a Urancha booth there and I didn't speak there. But
(27:00):
but you know, those scenarios of meeting your angels in
the afterlife is affirmed by the Ranch Book, So this
is kind of an affirmation. The Ranch Book says that
you have a kind of life review, and so do
these endes. But the Ranch Books goes even much further
a life review than the NDEs. It says, it's actually
(27:21):
goes on for quite a long time in your afterlife.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting the timing of this regarding
after World War One and before World War two. It's
just an interesting time that this book came out. Do
you think that the ets and or angels have influenced
human evolution, you know, culture, religion at these key moments
in history?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Another great question. The Ranche Book is really a product
of post World War two, although it was initiated after
World War One, and in my writings tread to show
that it's already stayed in the Ranch Book and elsewhere
that when you're in great crisis, that's when your parents intervene. Right,
So if you if you're very old, your mom and
(28:05):
dad now in their seventies are going to help you out, right.
So the same thing with celestial beings. So when you
have something like a genocide like the Holocaust, you know
when you're at the bottom, you've hit bottom, sort of
like being an alcoholic hit bottom, that's when you need
your higher power. So that's why the Ranch Book is
(28:25):
timed for the greatest crisis in human history. It was
really World War two my view, So.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Then I should should expect them to land on the
White House lawn in the next thirty days based on
the world. The world right now, right, I mean what
you were interviewing. Okay, when we come back, we're going
to ask Byron about his thoughts on government disclosure, another
big thing happening in our world. You're listening to be
on Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal podcast network. We are back on Beyond Contact speaking
(29:08):
with Byron now. We want to ask him about government disclosure.
Why do you think they've been so silent on the
UFO issue.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I'm in the day she had camp the blast, which
is that you know there's a criminality behind us. I mean,
that's what we all know. I mean those of us
go to c I, td as Sea or tred Dole
and the others have exposed that this is criminalized behavior.
And also I think there's another piece that is in
(29:38):
a way relevant which is we're not really ready yet.
So much for disclosure. Let's put this. We're not ready
for disclosure of how deeply criminal it is. That's one piece,
it's like hard to believe. But we're also not really
ready for disclosure of who they are, you know, Draco reptility,
(29:59):
you know, whoever the hell they are. That they are
not benign, although the benign ones are here too, So
this is complicated stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It is what do you think that the knowledge keepers
are afraid of? Besides the criminality, Is it that that
we're not ready? Is that what you think it is?
Because people do say they don't let this out because
humanity is not ready, religion is not ready, everything's going
to break down. Do you think that's why they're holding
this information?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, you know, I was not unsympathetic with this. The
story about the Collins Elite, you know that luellas Onto
talked about and others have talked about. Nick Redford has
a wonderful book on that. It's a mind bowing book.
That there are Christians and the Pentagon who feel that
ets are demonic and they behind the scenes have blocked
a lot of the stuff. You know, as a practicing
(30:45):
Christian myself, I think that there is a demonic element,
which is the Dracoreptilians, because according to rancherbook, they're demonic angels, right,
so they work together with demonic ets. The scary stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I got to tell you. In the last year, I
have heard over and over how often religious figures seem
to overlamp with extraterrestrials, like that there's some confusion or
some tie in between extraterrestrial beings, off world beings and
those from spiritual realms, like angels and demons. They're often
(31:18):
associated together, and even some people talk about that the
knowledge keepers or whatever do think that these are demonic
and that's why they don't want to release this information.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I think that's a part of it. I don't think
that the Collins will lead. That kind of element is huge,
but it's like a percentage of it. But I think
the other thing is a sincere feeling that it would
be so shocking that they would be kind of chaos.
And I'll put it this way, as we got a
kind of purveyor of the Rancho book. It's shocking even
(31:51):
this book, you can't believe it. I mean, in universities
it's just banned more or less. So why is that?
Because I just can't handle they're just not at the
evolution of the consciousness is just not and it is
it is just not.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
If it's a lot to swallow, if you're outside of
this community or you're new to this material, it certainly
is a lot to swallow in your view, what's the
most credible piece of evidence that the US government's hiding
non human intelligence technology?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Well, the whistleblowers of course have given us, you know,
certainly verbal testimony. They haven't shown us much obviously, so
really the USOS, I mean that that story the Dolan
develops is very vivid, it's very compelling, but all of citing,
you know, you just put it all together. And the
fact that other governments have disclosed I mean Brazil, what
(32:38):
is it, France.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
They have a now really formal, full on big d disclosure.
They haven't really come out and definitively said yes, this
is real, Yes we have this, or here's a body
or here's a ship. Nobody's done that. They're just more
open to it than we are. And we've they've released
some documents, but not well.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
On to correct. Yeah, I think that it's imminent. I mean,
it's certainly, you know, you'll get Chris Bledsoe and the
phenomena around ye are pretty compelling at the moment.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Compelling to you. But I think there's a big part
of the population that don't find that compelling at all,
and they don't find there's your ranch of book compelling that.
A lot of people don't feel this is enough to
move the needle because it doesn't move the needle. We
have these movies come out, we have these trust conferences,
and we have these whistleblowers, and the people in the
community seem to really get excited about it, but it
(33:35):
does not seem to move the needle overall for the
vast majority of the population.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Well, I think, like like genetics, you know, there are
leaps genetically that happen that are sudden, and I think
this is the time for that, because there's a platform
that's been developed by you know, people like you, you know,
to bring this forward. And I think that in the
next year or two, the population is going to leap
into this.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Really do really, so you're you're with Steve Bassett, you
really think we are imminently close to actual government disclosure.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I wouldn't put it that way, I'd say it's it's
it's getting to the point that the population, you know,
the constituency, the government is going to demand it as
it has been, and it's going to become critical mass
in the next two years. Because I think the ETS themselves,
and this is what you get from the GFL transmissions,
The ETS are orchestrating this because they feel it's time.
(34:29):
They want to disclose themselves, and so they're trying to
develop the consciousness so that they can do their job,
which is, you know, to help us. It is urgent.
I mean, you can't wait anymore. Really, it's like we're
at bottom, and so that it has to happen because
the nine Ets are present and they're here, they're assigned
according to the ranch of view of things. They're assigned
(34:52):
by the angelic host, by the higher worlds. They are
mandated to come and turn this thing around with us.
And so that's why I think this is the moment. So, yeah,
Steve Bassett lives near me here in Washington, d C.
We talk about this all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, So you do think that they're playing a role
in this disclosure, like they're ready and they're nudging it
along again.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Invite people to go to Exoreality's substack and see my
twenty one page research paper where I try to show
and justify why the Galactic Federation of Light is so active.
I mean they're hyperactive. There are two big transmissions a
day on YouTube and they're very compelling, although there's lots
(35:38):
of flaws also in some of the content. But yeah,
I think that it's you know, I'm a guy who
follows politics every day. I live in washingt d C.
The crisis point, we're not going to survive. We're going
to be in self destruction of spiral and a die
off climate from climate change to you know, nipper war.
There must be an intervention right now, and it is happening.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
If you're not part of the cabal or whoever holds
this secret knowledge, I don't see why anybody would be
against disclosure. You may not believe in it or whatever,
but why would you be against it? You know, wouldn't
most people just be like, well, if you have something,
tell us, well, it's put it this way.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
I don't think it's black and white a little bit.
Disagree with Stephen Bassett, you know that I think it
should be stage dissemination, but it should be done behind
me by people who have studied, thought this through. Then. Look,
you've got to be compassionate for those and you know
some live in my household here who can't handle it.
The rapidity has to be increased very rapidly now because
(36:39):
it's too late. It's like late in the game God
to get this thing out because I think about it.
Free energy, just that alone, you know this claim about
med beds, These things have to be We need free
energy right now and that can be disseminated. What's this
that's part of disclosure really, But I don't believe in
catastrophic as I think Danny schunkildre catastrophic just because but
(37:04):
but it's got to be. It's got to be strong.
And that's why, you know, I want to thank you
Captain Rodd for doing C I T D. It's it's
a fabulous service.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
You know, we we we all love it, we all
be all just compelled to do it. Would you say
that the official disclosure process aligns with your ANCHI text?
Is there anything in there about that?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I think the spirit of it aligns with your anti
text because your anti texts about a friend. It's about
the universe is friendly, there's a loving God.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But it also speaks about a federation of all planets,
right that that that they participate in that, which is
something we hear from certain contact ees claimed that there's
a federation.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Right Well, your arch book doesn't talk about a federation
of planets, but it does say that all planets, you know,
once they're advanced, they network and they but they don't
speak of ships coming here. But that's inevitable. It's just obvious,
you know.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
So one of the big problems with uphologies they have
they don't have a cosmology like the Rancher book. They're
kind of all like a Bible cosmology or something. I mean,
they're using Einstein, you and you know, physics and that
sort of thing. But the ranch book is informing us
that there are tons of inhabited worlds.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
As along with the cosmology of uphology. I'll tell you
that we need to stop there. Thanks a lot for
coming on, Byron. I appreciate you sharing everything. How can
people find you?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
You can find me at my substack. It's called XO
Realities e XO Xorealities dot substack.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Thank you so much, sir, and thanks everyone for listening.
I appreciate it. You could find me on Twitter and
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