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August 29, 2025 16 mins

George Noory and author David Edward discuss methods for mapping the lost underwater civilization's location.   

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio, David.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The theories we're talking about tonight and the possibilities, are
they all yours or do they come from science? Where
do they come from?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Well, that's that's a good question. Let's see the actual
location of the capital is not mine. That came from
somewhere else. All the other stuff. What I try and do,
I don't know that I actually have anything original to
contribute when you put it out, because what I do,
I don't you know, you know, David Edward, what am
I going to do? I'm going to go with a

(00:34):
yardstick and go measure somewhere there's never been measured. I
mean that I could, I could measure wrong. So what
I do, which I think is more powerful, is I
try and use the peer reviewed literature, the stuff macademia,
the Noah maps, satellite images, really deep stuff with the
text and the translation of the text, you know, because

(00:55):
we read all this stuff as translated texts, and a
lot of times those translations flat. Now you know, the
original Greek or the original Piez or original whatever it was.
So I try and synthesize all of those things, and
I think that's my contribution. I'm just like more Jay Adner.
He didn't write the great books of Western literature. He

(01:15):
made them readable or approachable from a lot of different
entry points, and I think that's what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Here, David, what exactly did Plato say about Atlantis?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, Platus said a lot of things about Atlantis. He
has two we call him dialogues, Critius and Timerius or Timious,
no one knows how to say it. And in both
of them, Timius is more of a philosophical work where
he is inserting Greek world views and kind of using
Atlantis as a platitude or a moral example, and that's

(01:50):
typically how it gets phrased with people. Critius is much
more interesting because even Plato and Critias says, this isn't logos,
this isn't him trying to demonstrate logic. This is him
showing and recording history, and you get You've got a
lot more of the interesting measurements and things. For example,

(02:11):
in Critius we have those directional markers I was talking
about for the second province, for the province of that
Gadarius gaps. He's the second of the twins. And what's
interesting is you know this stuff, if it's really ninety
six hundred BC, this is before written language, I mean

(02:34):
written language. We start to get dashes and dots around
thirty two hundred BC, so we are thousands and thousands
of years. So you can't go to the Greek or
the Spanish or the whatever and try and do linguistic
analysis using roots. We can't do that. Instead, you have
to use phonetic analysis using speech and dialect. And that's

(02:58):
where and this is where it all in. So if
you want to know what Atlantis is, you look at
where in Critius it says that Gadarius is the second province,
province facing Cadeens in the direction of the pillars, and
then Gadarius, Gadarius, Gadarius. You have to look linguistically and
if you look at those islands, they're called Canarius, the

(03:20):
Canarius Canarius the Canary Islands, and it's a match. And
if the Risshat is the capital where the first province
is West Africa, you can see the Canary Islands from
the coast. So if you're a culture that's expanding, especially
in this time period, you would see those Canary Islands,

(03:42):
so it'd be the very national first thing that you
would expand into it, and it's what the dialogue says,
and you can trace that all the way through. I
don't know that we have to go through, and I
have to bore you with every single one. But if
you put my notes up real quick, if you get to.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
The while you do that, how many people are we
talking about that went down with it?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh well, I think yeah, it was millions. I would
I would imagine, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Well, because you're not just talking about the capital city,
you're talking about a coastal civilization all around the Atlantic.
So if you go back and look at you know,
no one knows how many people there were back then.
All the academic models are just estimates and just mathematical
models projected projecting backwards. But there was I mean, it's

(04:31):
not that long ago, So there was millions of people.
And every every model I've ever seen from any academic
study anywhere has millions of people, which is not a lot.
If you spread that over the entire world. We're talking about,
you know, civilized centers of ten thousand, twenty five thousand people,
that kind of stuff. But when you look at around
the Atlantic basin, all the way around it, which is

(04:53):
where the Atlantic the Atlantis provinces were. The event which
was a flood event is going to effect all. So
here is look and so you can trace these the
twins list you can trace it out. So we did
the first one, which is Atlas. Let's say that's West Africa.
Then you get the Canary Islands Caderis, Canarios. The next

(05:15):
thing you see from the Canary Islands is you see
the straightership Altar and on the other side you see
the the n fairies seamount. It's is staying which and
they find stuff all the time where they think they
find advantage there. That's that's the name of the third twin.
So we have a linguistic match. Then you keep going
up the coast and the fourth twin is Evermont Evermond. Well,

(05:42):
again linguistically we're up because we can see where we are,
because we know who these people are, we know the mythology.
There is Avalon, Evmon Avalon. That's basically dog Island, right,
which is now the thing with Dogland is is a
massive reed production center because lowlands hundreds of square miles

(06:03):
of lowlands. So when you get to Evmond or Doggerland
up there or Avalon. That's where they get reeds, that's
where the reed technology comes in, and out of reeds
they can make boats. So sure enough, what do we
see from the next set of twins. The fifth twin
is minosis. There's different ways to say it, but nosus canosus, canosus,

(06:25):
it fits. It fits right in to the interior Mediterranean, Egypt,
those areas which were told they were in. They didn't
get a really weird word auto chiffon, which is no
real way to know how to say it, but you
can find linguistic ties into the Mexican is the atland area,

(06:47):
which makes total sense because we've hit Dogland, we've got reeds.
So now we can follow the ocean currents which take
you from the Straits past the other islands, which are
the Canary Islands, and follow it and we know we
can do this. This store hair and all prove that
revokes do this, and the end up over in America

(07:09):
or Mexico.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
We were talking earlier about the technology they might have possessed.
Did they have flying machines?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I think they did. We don't get that really from anywhere,
and I have no proof of that. I think. I
think though that we're dealing with technology that we would
consider advanced. You, you and I. But let's talk about
the technology. I mentioned that.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
This thing.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
There's a way you can link Plato into One Emoch,
and One Emoch is a book in the Ethiopian canon
that people that like Atlantis also tend to like One Emoch.
I know, I did you used to naturally find it?
Because it's dot all kinds of kooky stuff and it
seems to float around the biblical Genesis six story with

(07:59):
nephlimb and watch and all that kind of stuff. But
from and I'm gonna answer your technology question. So in
Plato we're told they're basically eight categories of technology that
he says Atlantis had. Okay, they had metallurgy and mining technology,
they had cosmetic and ornamental technology. They had earth knowledge,

(08:19):
water knowledge, sky knowledge, they had sacred geometry, they had
life sciences, and they had military arts. If you go
through Prittius and a little bit of Timinious, those are
the categories you get. Then you look at one Eenoch
and you look at what did the watchers teach? Well,
they taught metal urgy and mining and ornaments and cosmetics.

(08:40):
They taught earth knowledge and water knowledge and sky knowledge
and sacred geometry, and they taught life sciences and they
taught the military arts. It's the same list, which got
me intrigued because that would be an anchor between two
completely unrelated texts. It's not possible that Plato read One Enoch.
It just it is not was not in his order anywhere.

(09:04):
He was not copying the list. And actually we don't
really know because the chant of custody is kind of
wonky for one younop with the book that Washingtons, we're
dealing with the first sixteen chapters, but we don't really
know that the chant of custom for it either. But
it's the same list, which I thought was really interesting.
So then I started looking and saying, you know, if
the technology is the same, it is the pattern the same,

(09:28):
and the story pattern kind of is the same. And
this is it's kind of the same between Genesis, between
the First Enoch and between Plato's Atlantis, which and it's
it's a five story arc, which is God's come to Earth.
They mate with human women, they create hybrid children, the
hybrids become corrupt, God destroys them. That's the story of Atlantis.

(09:52):
That's the story of one nochty of Genesis six. It's
a great story. And so what you can then do
is you can fine the anchor points in the text
and you can see the Atlantis is a case study
because what we find here. Here's how I got there
is I kept looking, so I said, Okay, there might

(10:13):
be a similarity, but it's not clear enough. The fact
that technologies are the same, and even the story arc
is the same. I need something inside the stories that match.
So I kept reading. Plato just kept reading and kept
reading and kept I kept reading. Forseidon and he marries
a mountain girl and they have ten offspring, like, okay,

(10:37):
Poseidon's a god, he came down. We're told he was
given the province of the geography of Atlantis. So he's
a chiefs the he's a boss, and then he has
ten sons. He generates ten offspring, like okay, one chief

(10:58):
and ten chief and ten like that is familiar? Why
is that familiar? And it's familiar because that is exactly
what Enoch says. How the watchers were organized. They said
the watchers had a group of twenty leaders and they
had two hundred other watchers with them, and they organized

(11:19):
into what they called ten, one of the leaders, and
then ten, a group of ten of these beings, and
it's like, that's the same story.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is it safe to assume, David, that this is not
a myth but actually happened.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Here's the way I look at it. There's enough physical evidence.
You have people on this show monthly who find real things. Yep,
we're not all idiots, you know. We're not all out
there looking at shadows and taking Warshack tests and and
you know, and finding faces in dirt and stuff. So
there's too much going on. That's what I say. There's

(12:01):
too much evidence. There's so much evidence that there's no evidence.
It's it's overwhelming. So do I think it was No?
I think I think it's worse. I think it's actually
a horror story. To answer that, I think it's all real.
I think all these pantheons we see, I think they
were all watchers and these these chiefs attend and the

(12:23):
timing of it kind of makes sense. It's all prehistory.
But what's going on in One Emach is a horror shows.
It's a disaster. You have these giants who are consuming everything,
and when they have consumed everything, they start eating humans
and it's just a horrible time. And I think that

(12:45):
is more our history than the shining Hittyo On, shining
City on the hill and the hope that this was
a you know, a better time. That's what the literature
says anywhere, that all this literature we read, it's all
apocalyptic disasters, and it all ends in God destroying everything.
Even even the Atlanta's story ends in God destroying Atlantis.

(13:07):
So it's just it's bad.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
You see a lot of biblical connections here with Atlantis,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think Atlantis is a case study in Genesis six,
the time when mighty men of old and men of
renown and the earth was corrupt and filled with violence.
I think that Atlantis is a case to it. And
this book I've written, I don't do a good job
explaining it's it's very simple when you see it. But

(13:34):
because our heads are so turned sideways on Atlantis to
even talk about it, I've yet to do a really
good job of eloquently introducing the concept. But yeah, Atlantis,
it's real. The provinces are easily mapped once you wander,
once you understand the linguistics, and you have a starting place,
and this story is the same story we get from

(13:56):
just about every ancient text. Initial greatness, everything consumed on splates,
divine portion, phage, God destroys right, God's come down, make
a mess of things, and we're stuck to clean up
the aftermath.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well with David edward Is latest book is called Atlanta's Saw.
Where do we get the book?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
David?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Everything goes to Frequency ninety nine dot com, the books
on Amazon and everywhere else, but George, because you guys
called me to be on the show, I made all
my books free as just a way to say thank you.
So if anyone wants any of these books right now,
you know on Amazon you can make the digital copies
free for a couple of days. They're free I think
for the next three four days. And I think I've

(14:37):
got thirty of my books up there in the PDF
and you just download them and it's a free fest
if you go to Frequency nine to nine dot com.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's amazing. Thank you. You didn't have to do that.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
We didn't have to write down the show. We love you.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Would you say the Atlantis Mystery is one of the
greatest mysteries of all times on this planet.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I think it is the most solved mystery of all
time on this planet. It's the greatest mystery because every
time anyone looks at it, they instantly solve it.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
And it's been.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Solved hundreds of thousands of times. But it's the greatest
mystery because we're drawn to it, like I opened with,
we know there's something wrong, and somehow thinking about worrying
about things like Atlantis. They don't make this world better,
but they make us feel better about being in it.
And I think that Atlantis is the word we can

(15:34):
use for this ancient past described in One Enoch and
Genesis six and all the other stories, for all the
other people who have found these things. The only caveat
I have is everywhere is it the capital? The capital
is one place, but Atlantis is pretty much all this
old stuff we're finding.

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