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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And we are back with citizen journalist Ashton Forbes discussing
missing Malaysian Airlines Flight three seventy so the likely location
of the plane. It was sort of teleported in a
sense to Diego Garcia. How do you how do you
keep I mean, assuming some of the passengers are alive,
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how do you keep something like that quiet?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, great question, Richard. So I think this kind of
was a conspiracy angle, which is what I think is
the largest verifiable conspiracy of all time. A lot of
people out there listening and probably going, well, what about
this debris? I thought we found some debris. So let
me first just go ahead and destroyed official narratives. This
plane did not crash into the South Indian Ocean. We
know that because there was no debris field. You can't
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not have a debris field in the seven seven seven
crash into the ocean. There's no possible way where this
just slowly hit the water then sank into the depths.
There's going to be a debris field everywhere, bodies, luggage,
parts of the plane. We're going to see it from
States the next day, it was the most expensive search
in history. The official search did not find one piece
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of the plane, not one. The black boxes were not
found despite them looking across the entire seventh arcs for
these boxes, and they can produce signals for up to
twenty thousand depths for thirty days. The SOCI system, same
system that heard the Titan subtop, would have heard the
acoustic detection of this plane hitting the ocean. There's two
other hydrophones. Western Australia has hydrophones, so does Diego Garcia,
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that same military base. Neither of them heard detections for
the plane crashing in the South Indian Ocean. There's two
radar systems that would have seen it, Indonesia's and Australia system.
The Joran system would have seen the plane. This is
an active shipping route from Africa to Australia. It supposedly
crashed in the early morning, but there was no witnesses
that saw the plane or saw a crash, or saw
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a debris field. The official flight path has it running
out of a lot of people then go to this
This default to say, well, the ocean is really big.
There's literally nowhere else for the plane to go. They
searched everywhere it possibly could, assuming fuel exhaustion in the
plane they searched. The official narrative says that this plane
crashed at a ninety degree angle initially, which is impossible
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for a plane. And again, if you're doing a swan
dive from a seven to seven to seven, it's not
going to just go right through the water. It's going
to explode pieces everywhere. They later changed this to a
fourteen degree angle the Hudson River.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Okay, let me just ask jump in here. Wasn't there
some debris found on a beach in Madagascar, Madagascar by
some He was an American lawyer, I think Blaine Gibson.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I was gonna get right to that, but I want
to do a couple more things before we get to
that part. But so the change the narrative said, this
plane was coming at an angle. It's not like land
in the Hudson River. This plane is going to rip apart.
There are four redundant ELT beacons on this plane that
are activated on crash. None of them did nineteen families
of the victims find a statement, and that could call
the victim's phones for up to four days. So there's
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a lot of evidence for why this plane didn't crash. Now,
some debris was found, not by the official search on
Matta Gascar, Reunion Island. This debris, some of it actually
has burn marks on it, and the burn mark pieces
actually have a honeycomb pattern consistent with Bowing airlines. Only
three pieces have been confirmed to be parts of the plane.
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Only one was matched with a serial number. The flapperon
that they often talk about. What the media doesn't mention
is that it was not a unique serial number. It's
just a part number. There was actually supposed to be
a unique Cereal plate. You can google this. It was
missing despite the fact that presumably bolted on to the
Flaparon Jeff Wise in the documentary I think mentions, or
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at least he's got some blog posts mentioned how he
thinks this debris was planted ineptly. Now, the theory that
we've proposed here from my organization says that we can
bring this degree back in if there was a fire.
The tiny amounts of debris, which you go look up
the CNN article about the total month of the debris, it's
less than one percent of the plane. It's almost nothing.
So they did not find a plane. They did not
find enough debris for a plane, and there was an
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equivalent plane purchased by ga Telesis A nine m MRK
scrapped in October of twenty thirteen, just six months before this.
That's an exact replica of MH three seven zero, also
purchased from Malaysian Airlines. Gatalysis has close ties to the
government and intelligence, so this debris could be from m
A three seven zero, especially because we're talking about a
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teleportation event where this plane went from one location to
another location or it potentially there's a lot of doubt
as to whether it ever even was.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So that brings us back to the passengers two hundred
and thirty nine, including the crew. Assuming some survive your
most or God willing, all they go back to their families.
Presumably how do you keep something like this.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I'm not sure they went back to their families. A
lot of the families have been silenced, they have been
forced into settlements. From what I've been told, I talked
to all pretty much all the official investigators. I think
the one I respect the most is Florence to Cheney.
I want to give her a shout out. I feel
like her. The narratives into what she believes have been
distorted by the media, and she has done probably the
most in depth investigation from a kind of looking at
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it from a criminal investigation the same way that I do.
A lot of them have moved on. If you are
going to silence them, then you are paying them off
with the settlement and then they have like a non
disclosure agreement they can't talk about the case. Ever. Again,
they did not get much money. If you go look
up these families, they only got probably roughly eighty ninety
thousand each total, and except for potentially some of the
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Australian ones who got a little bit more for having
these cases tried in Australia. So you might argue that
if people did survive, like the American passenger, perhaps they
got put into witness protection, given a new identity, told
they'll never be able to talk to the people they
knew up again. But a lot of this is speculative,
and there's really not a lot of way we can know,
you know, unless we have two other videos to show
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where they appeared, how many people could have survived this. Again,
it's not looking great for a lot of these passengers.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The vast majority I think of the well, not the
vast majority, but about one hundred and fifty of the
two hundred and thirty nine aboard or from China. I
guess you could argue if they go back to communist China, that's,
you know, given their system, it might be a little
easier to keep them quiet.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, I think that that part would be really easy.
Of China. Malaysia, Obama went and visited Malaysia for the
first time any president visited over fifty years in April
of twenty fourteen. Spent a couple of days there. Someone unprecedented,
So you could argue that they were establishing the cover up.
You know, one interesting factor from the Malaysia Minster Defense
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who if you watch the interviews the Malayia Mister Defense,
some of the sketches of interviews I've ever seen in
my life. He argues that they the plane was unidentified,
but then he goes ahead and admits that they knew
it was a civilian airliner and they knew it wasn't hostile.
But if the one of the most likely snares is
a hijacking, the no way you can know it's not
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hostile unless you have communication with the plane. So we
suspected that this has been a cover up from the beginning.
There's been a lot of questions why do they have
to send jets up? He gets asked this in an
interview from Australian reporter and the Australian reporter he gets
very defensive and says, well, why would you send a
plane for? Are you going to shoot down the plane?
And she, the youth, said that not me, and he
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kind of asked, well, why would we send that planeup?
She says, well, to track the plane, you know, that's
the logical explanation for sending the jet up. And he
gets very defensive and starts talking about military procedures and
stating that the Americans would shoot down the plane, which
is just offensive in my mind, But they don't really
explain why they don't send a plane up there. In
my mind, the answer is that the US government took
over the situation once they had this emergency event, because
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it's with them and Batterifire. They knew it was an emergency.
It was an emergency situation, not a hostile event. They
didn't send the jets up because the Americans were already
tracking it, they were already in communication. They actually only
released the communications from the pilots much later on after
there was outrage over why they weren't releasing them. I
imagine that a lot of that information was classified the
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real communications that potentially still happened, but that's just speculative
on my part. We did find an SLS at two
forty three am, which is eighteen forty three UTC, just
several minutes after we think around the time our videos happened.
It was only reported in Chinese news that claimed to
be intercepted communication from M three seven zero stating that
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the plane was disintegrating and then attempting their emergency landing,
which is consistent with the videos, and an eyewitness report
from Catherine T who's on a boat right there in
the official flight path, who sees this plane glowing orange,
consistent with the bromine halagen gas from the hall on
fire extinguishing devices being used to try to put out
this plane for over an hour. She sees it flying
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low to sending while she sees it. So we have
this ton of evidence that kind of wines up towards
this big event and this huge cover up that's going.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
On the drone.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, Ashton.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, one thing I just really want to make sure
I get out there is that some people may be
saying that they've heard of some debunks. They think there
might be some video game effecting here. That is all false.
That is disinformation that's being pushed out there. We have
debunked every single debunk that's out there right now, and
we even have a bounty one hundred and twenty thousand
dollars for anybody who can find the person that supposedly
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made these videos if you think that they're fake, and
produce the source files. This comes from Kim dot com
on Twitter and the Investigate Earth podcast, who put in
one hundred and twenty thousand dollars respectively. That's how strongly
they believe that these videos are authentic. So if anybody
out there, the nationwide, worldwide, you want to prove these
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videos are fake, all you have to do is go
find the person that made them and bring the source files.
You can collect that money.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Again if you want to see the video. If you haven't,
go to the Coast to Coast am dot com website
and under Tonight's show information, just click on Ashton's name
and that will take you right to his YouTube channel
at just x Ashton. At just x Ashton there you'll
see the stereoscopic satellite video and also the footage taken
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from the drone with a thermal imaging overlay. Don't you
find it kind of coincidental though, that the US military
had had the assets in that precise area at that time,
In other words, they had the drone there. How do
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we explain that?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, so we think that that drone was deployed from
potentially a joint India US base, probably around the car
Nikobar Islands. There was also tie US training exercises late
to begin March tenth, twenty fourteen, So it's possible that
this was a situation of opportunity where it's rare that
you have a plane that's on fire that's able to
last for an hour and twenty minutes, that you have
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the assets nearby. There were twenty free scale semiconductor scientists
and engineers. We've been able to tie directly to room
temperature superconductivity from a two thousand and five National Security
Agency report about commercial emergence of room comptuyre superconductors that
mentions fre scale STEMI conductors nine times. In there, we
also found a news article that ties them to RS
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ships that may be saying this wrong for US aerospace
and defense as well. So the likely motive here to
save these passengers, that they have people on board who
are directly tied to that technology, or they could just
be doing another good their hearts. But I don't think
a lot of people are going to believe that narrative
when it comes to the US military. Yeah, So one
other thing I want to talk about real quick. I was, okay, Richard,
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is who we think leaked this information? Because I think
this is some of the most compelling part of the
entire case is I was looking at this person Agent
three seven zero, and as I've just stated here, we
think the leaker was a US military personnel, likely an operator,
probably had an emotional reaction due to the fact that
the regiside of non accounts, so that it was received
four days later. They removed the HUT data and they
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added this thermal layer over the top of the drone video.
They cropped out the drone from the satellite video as well.
They probably had to convince the regisided non accounts that
they were authentic due to the long upload date. They
thought maybe they were looking at UF votes. Maybe they
thought that what they were leaking here was not damaging
to the US military. They didn't realize the defense contractor
technology we find. Lieutenant Commander Edward Celynn took weeks of
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searching for this person. Experience and Signals intelligence was on
the Special Project Squadron VPU two, his last apployment February
twenty fourteen to March twenty sixteen, but he gets reassigned
the month after. He gets initially deployed March twenty fifth,
twenty fourteen, just weeks after the Planet Missing, ends up
getting arrested in September of twenty fifteen. His last assignment
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was that assignment. The next assignment the brig for him.
In May of twenty fourteen, he gets caught with two
flight manifests in his flight suits from a deployment that
included search and rescue code names. The investigation into him
began in April second, twenty fourteen. The FBI ran a
sting on him because they were trying to prove that
he was a spy and that he was selling secrets
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of China. There was no evidence of it. The charges
against him, initially of espionage would have resulted in life
in prison, first major incident of espionage by an activeduty
member of the Navies since the end of the Cold War.
They redacted his charge sheet. He was privy to the
Navy's Black Program portfolio, knowledge that would been extremely useful
to potential adversaries. They ended up having to admit wasn'ty case.
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There's no evidence of that. The defense argued that the
classified information and question is available on the internet. He
was abused in pre trial detainment by the Goon squad.
They argued that leadership was having them come in there
Ruffles's cell put him out of the cold, taking his
confidential information between him and his lawyer away from him.
They didn't tell him what his chargers were where they're investigated,
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and they made sure he was in pre trial detainment,
but the evidence for why he needed to be locked
up was non existent. He ended up taking a plea
deal for nine years in prison, which is a huge
amount for just mishandling classified information. They shaved three years
off of it because he worked with the NCIS and
the FBI and ended up admitting that what he did
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was wrong. He took responsibility for the two offenses that
he claimed that he was actually guilty of and that
he wanted to stand as you say that essentially other
people shouldn't do what he did, and that he was
very apologetic about it. I foiled the NCIS. They're head
of legal responded back less than a week. They rejected
my foya. In total, they wouldn't give me anything about
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the case under an Obama era executive order that is
quote to be kept secret in the interest of national
defense or foreign policy, which is unusual to me because
they said it wasn't a spy case. So this evidence
to me linked this guy directly to MH three seven zero,
potentially directly to these videos. In my mind, he's a hero.
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He's my hero. I would do anything for this guy,
and the President of the United States needs to give
him a pardon so that he can come out and
tell the truth about these videos.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Are you able to Have you spoken with his lawyer?
Have you reached out to his lawyer?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Great question? I have. I did reach out to the lawyer.
I thought that that was the best way to go
about doing this. I found the lawyer from the news articles.
I talked to a clerk. They called me back on
a Sunday I gave them all the information. They started
following me on Twitter.
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