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November 8, 2025 18 mins

Guest host Connie Willis and wellness practitioner Sydney Songer discuss gemstone energy and why it resonates with the human body, how to use gemstones for protection to repel negative energy, and her encounters with Skinwalkers near an Indian reservation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Coast to Coast AM. Connie willis here with you,
Thanks for being with us tonight. We have Sidney Songer
with us tonight and you can find her at Inner
Sage Wellness dot com and also the different stones she's
talking about it Jimmy Sphear dot com. We had Michael
here at one point, who is the main guy there,

(00:26):
and we all had a ball when he came in
here talking about all the different gymstones. And now we
have Sydney here with us, and if you learn a
little bit more about her too, it'll also take you
to where you can purchase them, if that's what it's
all about, and you can get what is it, a
twenty percent discount Sydney with if you use.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Coast Discount Discount code Coast.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Excellent Excellent, always nice. That's always a nice thing. Okay,
So you know, sadly read I just read that Diane
ladd Away in this past week and she's she's been
in so many shows along the way. And when I
was about my early twenties, I worked on a set

(01:10):
and it was the Brat Pack and it was Molly
ring Wald, Andrew McCarthy and Diane Ladwood was in it.
It is called Fresh Horses. And I remember going up
to her trailer asking her for something or getting her
set up for something.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I was just I was just a little pa.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I was just out of college, you know, and so, oh,
you know what a pa is. You know this whole
background thing. You're big modeling everything before. So so I
bring her whatever it was, or asked her whatever I
needed to ask her, and she says, how you doing today, Connie,
And I said, you know, my stomach hurts. And she
immediately pulled out this big handbag. She was one of

(01:50):
those ladies that would have a big handbag. And she
pulled out this huge crystal and it was the first
time I ever saw this done, and it kind of
freaked me out because I love rocks and crystals and
everything like that. She just took that big, I mean
it was huge crystal and just pointed it at my
stomach and just went into circular motion smaller and then

(02:12):
bigger and bigger than smaller, and she had this whole
little routine, and I was just thinking, what's.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
This Hollywood woman doing to me? You know?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I had no idea what was going on. But that
was the first time I learned about the healing, that
people would literally do that kind of thing with them.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, did it help? I didn't really recognize it helping.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
No, I did not, But you know, I don't. I
don't know the fact that I was like, what just
happened to me? What did Diane lad do to me?
I think that was a big part of it. But
that was the first time I experienced that, and I thought, Wow,
people are really into this kind of thing. And I

(02:51):
never knew it was a thing before. So besides health,
because a lot of people do it for that, they
do it for protection. How have you who applied it?
Because you know, people like me, we go out into
you know, the woods or whatever, and entities come my way,
and entities come to a lot of people's way.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Is there any way I can use these? But how
have you?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I know, you guts some interesting stories that I have
yet to hear.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, I think I tease some of these a little
bit in our conversation the other day, And yeah, I
love it because this is actually a safe space where
I can talk about this.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
This kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
You know, when someone like myself is more intuitive or psychic,
whatever words you want to use for that. I know
for I won't speak for other people, but for me myself,
I have been a magnet for very strange and bizarre
things to happen pretty much my entire life. And you know,
it's like there are safe spaces you can talk about

(03:54):
it in other places where people are we don't know
about that, And especially when you have a professional background
of any kind, it becomes a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
You have to be more discerning about what you share
and with who oh yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
But what I will say is that I really really
wish that I had had these types of gemstones from
the time I was a small child on because my
life would have been so much more stable and digestible
if I had had them. One of the big ways
that these have really kind of shifted things for me

(04:30):
is that they really helped me sort of hone in
my more energetic and intuitive gifts in a way that
doesn't feel overwhelming or chaotic or random and sporadic like
they were when I was growing up and trying to
figure it all out. And what's really been great about
that is that you know, we talked about the protection

(04:52):
aspect earlier, and there's a lot of different ways that
they can do that. You know, they can absorb negative
energy from around you, things like so light are wonderful
for that, and honestly, subate light's the only way I
can make a cost go run these days because it's
just too crazy in there. But there are chinstones that

(05:12):
sort of like repel negative energies. Those are things like
labradorite is fantastic for that.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And then there is this other.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Way where it protects us by bolstering and fortifying our field.
And what I mean by that is that you're familiar
with like our oric.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Field, yes, like our biofield.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
So one of the ways that our biofield protects us
is that when we are healthy and grounded and our
energy is flowing in this really open and free way,
it creates this almost like natural force field around us
where negative energies are things that are more harmful for us,
or negative entities too.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
If we want to go into that.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
They can't really get to us as easily because we're
repelling them with this vital force that we have around us.
And when we get sick or if we're injured, or
I see this a lot with like drug and alcohol
abuse is a big thing. Before this, it weakens this field.
And what happens is it basically makes it so that
things can get in it, can it can get through

(06:20):
the force field and actually have an impact on us.
So one of the sort of like the third way
that gemstones can be protective is by creating this fortification
of our field. And for me, that's been huge because
I've had this really weird thing my entire life, and
luckily I've asked multiple people like do you think I'm schizophrenic?

(06:43):
Am I making this up? Can you see that too?
Or is that just me? And so you know, I
check it and I still check it.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I careful who you asked that, you know, I.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Ask the most skeptical people I know, because they say, yeah,
you're a nut.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, it's not an option, but you are definitely
a nut.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
We've already decided, yeah, I get changed exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
And so but I've had people witness this where for
me personally, I have this really interesting thing where I'm
going to use a term that's specific to me. I'm
sure other people who use other terms for this. I
call them klingons. Not like star trek clingons. But what
I mean by this is when there are energies or
entities that sort of attach or piggyback onto people and

(07:34):
they're sort of feeding off of them, and the person's
not really aware that it's there.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
So what tends to happen? Whatever it is about me?

Speaker 5 (07:43):
In particular, when people have something like this going on
and they get within I want to say, like fifteen
to ten feet of me. Whatever that thing is holding
on all of a sudden shows up and it tries
to It knows that I can sense it or feel
it or whatever it is, and so it tries to

(08:04):
either attack me or scare me, and it's like the
person completely shape shifts and as soon as they're outside
of that ten to fifteen foot range, they go back
to normal like nothing has happened. And I thought I
was losing my mind until I had my very non
metaphysical friends.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Go, what was that? Like?

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Like you saw that?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Right?

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
They could see it happen.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
And I mean people, I've had people, especially when I
was younger and I lived in San Francisco, which bigger cities.
There's a lot of energy is going on in those cities, right,
I actually say, I know, right, I had people like
physically attack me out of nowhere. And so the thing

(08:50):
that I've noticed since I started working with gemstones and
really started to kind of fortify my field and anchor
my energy, get ground and really just you know, own
my space and my my energy, is that they can't anymore.
They might try and get my attention, but a few

(09:11):
things are happening. One, I hear them and I feel
them way way sooner before they get to me, which
is useful because then I can remove myself or go
around it or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
But the other thing.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Is is that it's almost like the strength and integrity
of my energy prevents them from being able to get
any closer to me than a certain parameter. And that's
really useful. It's not always my cross to bear to
try and exercise every kling on situation that walks past
me on main street, you know anywhere that I am.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Like girls got to have a day off from time
to time. You know, good luck with that. I wish
you well. I was to saying, ain't nobody got time
for that? Not today, not today. But so that's one
of those.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
But you know, so that applies to sort of more
as weird, kind of weird as that sounds.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
That's the more everyday normal occurrence that I deal with.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
But you know, things like when I I think I
mentioned I lived off Grade and Flagstaff near the Navajo Reservation,
and there are a lot of lay lines out there,
were really close to Sedona. There's a lot of old
history there. There's a lot of transient entities that moved
through that space. And I know that I'm not supposed

(10:31):
to say this word, but I'm gonna say it just
because I'm in Montana now, so I'm less worried about it.
Dealt with a lot of skinwalker situations, and I'd heard
about this and I thought people were just being paranoid,
and then I moved out there and I was like, Okay, well,
good to know that's a real thing. And you know,

(10:52):
situations like I would have. I mean, I was out
in the middle of absolutely nowhere, so I would be
outsidempletely silent. There's no sounds of traffic or buildings or
even the humm of electricity, and there would be voices
screaming help off in the in the darkness, or.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Screaming my name or trying to sound like a small
child and we hear about this.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
You're from Kentucky, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm from South Carolina.
We're both familiar with Appalachia talking about if you hear
someone screaming for help in the mountains and hills, you
good luck to them, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Exactly, La la la, I can't hear you. Yeah, But
and out there it was the same thing.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
And I would have you know, I would have, well,
there's a lot of UFO and extraterrestrial activity that was
happening there as well, But I would have things walking
on my roof in the middle of the night, or
scratching down my walls. Things knocking on my door at
three o'clock in the morning. When you didn't ask neighbors.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
For did you not answer it? Did you not go
and open the door?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
You know, the people you didn't have a ring till.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You could see what was out there. I like excitement
as much as the next girl, but.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Uh, yeah, no, I just I don't need that kind
of negativity in my life.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Totally did it.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Isn't it interesting though, when something phenomenal is happening, you
don't think, oh, there must be somebody at the door.
Maybe it's a friend of mine in the middle of
do you never think that you immediately do know it's
something you should not answer the door. And you don't
think it's a person or somebody trump coming to kill
you or anything. You don't think that. You just know,

(12:40):
you don't know what it is, but you just stay
away from it and you wait till the light comes
back up with the sun in the morning.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
All right.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Well, and often the next day when I would go outside,
I would find handprints that were very much Numan at
all on different things, in the dust, on things, and
so I knew something. Yeah, But my point is that
the same thing like with the you know, quote unquote
Klingon situations, is that I rarely felt scared in those

(13:07):
situations because I felt so grounded in my own energy,
like the sovereignty of myself and sort of the help
that I knew that I had energetically. There were also
native spirits on the land that were very quick to
alert me if anybody set foot on the property that
shouldn't have been there, so that was useful. But it

(13:31):
just kind of like the friend of yours in the cave,
which I still have questions about, but you know, the
energies of that necklace fortified his field in a way
where even though he was down there with whatever it was,
it created a level of protection for him. And so
it was kind of the same thing for me. Weird
stuff was still happening, but I didn't feel imminent danger

(13:55):
because I knew that. One, I know what's coming before
it gets here too, trying my judgment. And three, I
feel like I'm calling in protection and owning my field
in a way where this thing can't you know, a
cross a boundary unless I let it, and I'm not
going to.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I like hearing that the gemstones can be a part
of that. And you know it's not just when people
say protection and this and that. You I mean, you
gave an application that that is something that I understand
because I deal with that same stuff all the time too,
And so you know, some of us have the magnet
like you're talking about. Some of us just see things

(14:31):
all the time and things just come to us. It's
just the way the way it is. Hey, we're all
going to go to this place. There's supposed to be
lights everywhere. Well you know that those lights are going
to be on you. That's just the way it's going
to be everybody put your cameras on me because that's
where you're going to see it.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
So now I totally get it. We can totally relate
on that.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, you know, the energy that you feel from
each one, there are always something different you can whichever
one you pick up. At least with me, I can
feel something different and frequency feeling. Some are colder, some
are warmer, And yeah, I'm sure you obviously can do
that too. But you know, I've always wondered because I
really love them raw. I mean, they're really cool that way.

(15:12):
To me, They're just they're beautiful. I'm not the biggest
fan of when they do get tumbled and in a
way to where they're maybe like a pearl shape or
something like that. Other people love that because they're into
jewelry and they want that, and I get it.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
That's I totally get it. Me.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I want it raw. But does it take away some
of the properties? Does it take away by doing that?
Does it take away frequency? Does it take away the
projection of the energy.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, So what I will say is that I understand
what you mean about. I mean, the joke that we
have at Gemosphere is that we understand they look like
Marty Crappied's right when you have.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
We know, we see ourselves. I'm going to comment, but
I won't.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's not you know anyway, that's another show.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
But but you know the thing, it's it's especially as
a practitioner, I'll say it this way, it's function over
fashion in that regard. Some people find that absolutely beautiful.
Some people like you, it's not what they're drawn to,
but they are designed that way very specifically, with a
very intentional purpose. And it's not necessarily to be fashionable.

(16:26):
It's meant to saturate your bio field with a very
specific frequency, to illicit change in a way that's actually
going to be profoundly healing for you. And so yeah,
that's not necessarily you know, if you're if you're going
to the met Yellow opening or something like that, you
might want to wear something else.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
But if you're trying, yeah, no, no, not me.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
But if you're crystal my neck, I know, I always
think about Lily Tomlin on Grace and Frankie where she
always had some huge rock you know, necklace on her.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Adore her.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
But to your question about the raw shapes, you know, yes,
especially if it's if it's still a high quality specimen,
then you have of course, they're emitting energy just like
anything else. Is the difference is simply that when they
are in a raw shape, they're going to be the

(17:25):
energy is not going to be as evenly balanced. It's
going to kind of be coming out in a more
chaotic or incongruent.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Does that make sense.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
So, like the crystalline structure where it's a point on
the end and it's flat on the bottom, the bottom
is pulling in the energy in this very kind of
uncontrolled way, and then it's being tuned.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Through the crystalline structure and shut.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Out the tip like a laser, right, And so that
can be useful if you're trying to hit an exact,
tiny little point or use it as a laser, But
if you're trying to impact your entire system, your entire.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
That's not ideal.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
And you can actually do damage in that way if
you point the wrong frequency at the wrong thing too
long like a laser beam.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
So that's something just to be mindful of. I mean,
I've got a ton of rod gems, so they're all good.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
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