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Guest host Richard Syrett and author Gerard Aartsen discuss George Adamski and his experiences with UFO's and Aliens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And we are back with author, speaker, researcher, educator Gerard Artsen.
And the book is called Adam The Adamski Book of UFO,
UAP disclosure, early evidence and answers now confirmed by science.
So let's get to perhaps what Adamski is best known for,
(00:26):
and that is his contact with a Venusian entity or
Venusian alien that went by the name of Orthon, taking
place back in nineteen fifty two. Walk us through what
happened in the Colorado Desert.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It was actually Adamski who called him Orthon. He gave
names to his contacts, who he said did not use
names themselves, but for easy reference in his books describing
his encounters and what they were telling him. He gave
these human beings, he called them human beings, his own
(01:09):
names for his readers. And what happened Adamski described it
begins this episode in his part of the book, Flying
Sources have landed by saying, it was about twelve thirty
in the noon hour on Thursday, twenty November nineteen fifty
two that I first made personal contact with a man
(01:30):
from another world. He came to earth in his spacecraft,
a flying saucer. He called it a scout ship. And
so it was on the twentieth to November when Adamski,
with a group of six friends and students, set out
for a picnic lunch in the California desert. They went
(01:54):
into the Coxcomb Mountains and just before noon they parked
the cars. They traveled in two cars. Adamski had also
brought his telescope and he had a Brownie camera. And
after they parked the cars, they first saw a cigar
(02:17):
shaped ship that was also entered in Project Blue Book
as a special Report number fourteen. Not long afterwards, they
saw what we know as flying sources of scoutcraft emerged
from the mother ship, and apparently one of these seemed
(02:40):
to have landed or was gone to land in the
nearby foothills. So Adamski went over and to explore, and
he felt himself in awe of being so near a
craft obviously from another world, until he says his red
was was broken when he suddenly realized there was a
(03:05):
man standing and not far from him, about a quarter
a mile from away from him, and he said he
his trousers were different like Ski trousers and he had
long hair reaching his shoulders, so it felt it was
it was he looked like, you know, a perfectly normal
(03:28):
human being, although his fingers were tapered. He said, and
he felt. Yeah, he clearly felt in the presence of
a very wise being, someone who could see through him
and you know, in their in their exchange, Adamski later
(03:49):
explained that the being was testing his telepathic abilities because
later on it turned out that he could speak. But
on his first in the first moments of their encounter,
they you know, they they were exchanging, trying to exchange
(04:10):
thoughts and ideas through gestures and and yeah, not being
able to or seemingly not able to speak the same language.
But later on during his later contact he uh and
and not just the dam Ski, many many of the
contact he have said that the visitors from space are
(04:34):
very very good at picking up languages of the countries
that they visit, and they also have a translation device.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And did Orthon communicate to a dam Ski that he
was from the planet Venus.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yes, yes, he This was in the initial stages of
their exchange. A Damski asked where he was from, by
first pointing to himself and then to to the ground
planet Earth, and then pointing to to Orthon where you're from,
(05:09):
and Orthon point uh sort of yeah, pointed at the
Sun and then made an orbit the gesture of an orbit,
and a second orbit, and then uh pointed to himself.
And from that Damski concluded that he was from Venus,
which was later confirmed in you know, in in in words,
(05:34):
so yes he was. He was from Venus.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And did a dam Sky try and take a photograph
of Worthon?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He mhm, I don't remember if he tried to take
I don't think in the moment he had the presence
of mind too to ask him for for what do
we now would do? Ask for a selfie? But he
did take a photograph of the foothills on his way there,
(06:06):
and recent enhancements of that photograph, which was made by
a simple brownie camera Swedish Swedish photographer and Renee eric Olsen.
He enhanced these photographs and this particular one showed a
part of the sourcers sticking out from behind one of
(06:29):
the hills and a yeah, a figure not very clear
obviously because there was a significant distance from which the
photograph was taken, but there was the clear silhouette and
features of a man standing standing nearby the saucer, so
there's no clear photograph of what Auten looks like.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I understand that there were plaster casts taken a word
on shoe imprints.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yes, yes, when when Orthon had left a Damsky noticed
also because Orthon made a point of showing that he
was leaving these imprints in the in the sand, in
the in the in the ground where they had met,
and Damsky noticed the strange symbols in the in the footprints,
(07:27):
and one of his one of his friends that was
with him, George Hunt Williamson himself also an author and
a researcher and did the extensive research in among the
Native Americans in South America. He was he had a
what do you call that a plaster with him so
(07:49):
they could make a plaster cast of of the of
the footprints.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Anything else unusual about him or do they just look
like shoe shoe prints in the sand or is there
anything unusual about these plaster casts?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well, they had strange symbols, and these symbols, if I'm
not mistaken, were also found by George Hunt Williamson on
one of his expeditions in South America. I'm not entirely
sure if these these were the ones, but it was, yeah,
(08:23):
some kind of uh attempt at at letting us know
certain things. But I must say I haven't. I haven't
really studied this particular part of the account because for
me Adamski, Adamski's significance is much more in what he
(08:49):
understood of life. And you know, he was aware that
consciousness is fundamental to to our objective reality. So I've
never been too much into the physicality of flying sorcer
or of spacecraft. You know, how long were they what
was the asthma of where they were cited? It's about
(09:13):
why are they here? And if Adamski was teaching about
the fundamental nature of consciousness in the nineteen thirties and
continued to do so throughout his life, despite critics saying
that he came into the flying sourcer business because that's
where the money was to be made. That's complete nonsense,
(09:35):
because in his books, or his book Inside the Spaceships
that relates many more of his later encounters from nineteen
fifty three onward, he is told by his extrateractive contacts
also about the fundamental of consciousness being fun mental to
(10:00):
to reality, and in his even in his latest books,
Cosmic Philosophy and the Science of Life Study Course, he
continues to talk about consciousness and the need for for
humanity to expand its consciousness and it's and it's understanding
of life if we are to survive. He even said
(10:23):
in a talk in nineteen fifty five, the main thing
is not you know about about It's not about flying
sources or about me or any any other phenomenon. The
main thing is what is transpiring in this world today,
and what is transpiring now is that humanity and the
coming of the visitors from space is to do or
(10:46):
is causing or and should be causing an expansion of
our awareness of life and the and the nature of life.
So I'm you know, I'm sorry, but I'm not really
into the specifics of the things that many critics because
you know, all these physical things can be disputed and
(11:07):
have been disputed, especially if you don't read what Damski
said about it himself. You know, so many of the
critics are just parratting the the initial so called analysis
by by Jim mostly and when you go when you
go into it, it doesn't just doesn't hold up the criticism.
(11:30):
And that's why for me, the main part is is
the his his vision is the visionary quality of Adamski.
He was aware of what is going on in the world.
He was aware that we're at the at the you know,
a critical moment in in our history. And as I said,
(11:54):
he he knew that there's more to life than just
being born and dying, and that see, and we have
to make the best.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Of it, Like, right, can you tell me?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm sorry? Science? And that's I think what I've tried
to do in my book Science is confirming these very
fundamental notions that Adampski has been putting forward throughout his
life and his career.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Okay, so, but can we just if we could just
go back to Orthon for a moment, because what was
can you share what Orthon's I guess primary message to
Adamski was.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Hm, hm, yes. That's another interesting aspect of this first
account when Adamski asked him why are you coming? Why
when's your visits or why are you coming here? And
Orton then gestured made just of the atomic clouds and
(13:04):
a dampsely check are you here because of the you know,
the atomic bomb explosions. So and it was also in
the first report about this desert encounter in November fifty two.
Four days later there was a report in the Phoenix
Gazette and it actually headlined let's see if I can
(13:27):
Yeah here, we are here, we are flying is also
passenger declares a bomb last reason for visits. So it
was it was the one of the main reasons for
for the visitors from space to come at this particular
(13:48):
time in our history. And of course this has been
supported by many other many other contactees who were told
the same thing. The same time. There's plenty of other
UFO researchers who have come to the same conclusion that
(14:09):
you know, we started noticing FOO fighters on the tales
of fighter jets in World War Two, especially after after
the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And there have
been numerous sightings of UFOs over nuclear nuclear arm bases
(14:31):
and testing grounds starting in the nineteen fifties or maybe
even the nineteen forties. And of course we're all I'm
sure most listeners are aware of the press conference organized
and the documentary made by Richard what's his name, Robert Sallas,
(14:53):
Robert Shallas sorry, Yeah, Robert Hastings, Robert Hays, Robert in
twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, the UFO incursion over Malmstrom Air Force Base that
took place in nineteen sixty seven and where they shut
down a bunch of ICBM missiles took them offline exactly.
And there were others in sixty seven as well, Malmstrom
and Minute Air Force Base as well.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah. And Robert Hastings for his documentary brought together a
group of one hundred and twenty former and active military
officers who were based at these nuclear missile facilities US
military facilities, and they all witnessed the same thing of
(15:43):
missile shutdowns involving UFO sightings. And his documentary from twenty
ten documents the same thing from unsuspected in or unsuspicious
what do you call that? You know, sources that are reliable,
(16:03):
these these military men who haven't trained thoroughly.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right, unimpeachable.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, the same thing was already told to George Dampski
and reported by George Dampsky in nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more,
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And we are back with author, speaker, researcher, educator Gerard Artsen.
And the book is called Adam The Adamski Book of UFO,
UAP disclosure, early evidence and answers now confirmed by science.
So let's get to perhaps what Adamski is best known for,
(00:26):
and that is his contact with a Venusian entity or
Venusian alien that went by the name of Orthon, taking
place back in nineteen fifty two. Walk us through what
happened in the Colorado Desert.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It was actually Adamski who called him Orthon. He gave
names to his contacts, who he said did not use
names themselves, but for easy reference in his books describing
his encounters and what they were telling him. He gave
these human beings, he called them human beings, his own
(01:09):
names for his readers. And what happened Adamski described it
begins this episode in his part of the book, Flying
Sources have landed by saying, it was about twelve thirty
in the noon hour on Thursday, twenty November nineteen fifty
two that I first made personal contact with a man
(01:30):
from another world. He came to earth in his spacecraft,
a flying saucer. He called it a scout ship. And
so it was on the twentieth to November when Adamski,
with a group of six friends and students, set out
for a picnic lunch in the California desert. They went
(01:54):
into the Coxcomb Mountains and just before noon they parked
the cars. They traveled in two cars. Adamski had also
brought his telescope and he had a Brownie camera. And
after they parked the cars, they first saw a cigar
(02:17):
shaped ship that was also entered in Project Blue Book
as a special Report number fourteen. Not long afterwards, they
saw what we know as flying sources of scoutcraft emerged
from the mother ship, and apparently one of these seemed
(02:40):
to have landed or was gone to land in the
nearby foothills. So Adamski went over and to explore, and
he felt himself in awe of being so near a
craft obviously from another world, until he says his red
was was broken when he suddenly realized there was a
(03:05):
man standing and not far from him, about a quarter
a mile from away from him, and he said he
his trousers were different like Ski trousers and he had
long hair reaching his shoulders, so it felt it was
it was he looked like, you know, a perfectly normal
(03:28):
human being, although his fingers were tapered. He said, and
he felt. Yeah, he clearly felt in the presence of
a very wise being, someone who could see through him
and you know, in their in their exchange, Adamski later
(03:49):
explained that the being was testing his telepathic abilities because
later on it turned out that he could speak. But
on his first in the first moments of their encounter,
they you know, they they were exchanging, trying to exchange
(04:10):
thoughts and ideas through gestures and and yeah, not being
able to or seemingly not able to speak the same language.
But later on during his later contact he uh and
and not just the dam Ski, many many of the
contact he have said that the visitors from space are
(04:34):
very very good at picking up languages of the countries
that they visit, and they also have a translation device.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And did Orthon communicate to a dam Ski that he
was from the planet Venus.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yes, yes, he This was in the initial stages of
their exchange. A Damski asked where he was from, by
first pointing to himself and then to to the ground
planet Earth, and then pointing to to Orthon where you're from,
(05:09):
and Orthon point uh sort of yeah, pointed at the
Sun and then made an orbit the gesture of an orbit,
and a second orbit, and then uh pointed to himself.
And from that Damski concluded that he was from Venus,
which was later confirmed in you know, in in in words,
(05:34):
so yes he was. He was from Venus.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And did a dam Sky try and take a photograph
of Worthon?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He mhm, I don't remember if he tried to take
I don't think in the moment he had the presence
of mind too to ask him for for what do
we now would do? Ask for a selfie? But he
did take a photograph of the foothills on his way there,
(06:06):
and recent enhancements of that photograph, which was made by
a simple brownie camera Swedish Swedish photographer and Renee eric Olsen.
He enhanced these photographs and this particular one showed a
part of the sourcers sticking out from behind one of
(06:29):
the hills and a yeah, a figure not very clear
obviously because there was a significant distance from which the
photograph was taken, but there was the clear silhouette and
features of a man standing standing nearby the saucer, so
there's no clear photograph of what Auten looks like.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I understand that there were plaster casts taken a word
on shoe imprints.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yes, yes, when when Orthon had left a Damsky noticed
also because Orthon made a point of showing that he
was leaving these imprints in the in the sand, in
the in the in the ground where they had met,
and Damsky noticed the strange symbols in the in the footprints,
(07:27):
and one of his one of his friends that was
with him, George Hunt Williamson himself also an author and
a researcher and did the extensive research in among the
Native Americans in South America. He was he had a
what do you call that a plaster with him so
(07:49):
they could make a plaster cast of of the of
the footprints.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Anything else unusual about him or do they just look
like shoe shoe prints in the sand or is there
anything unusual about these plaster casts?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well, they had strange symbols, and these symbols, if I'm
not mistaken, were also found by George Hunt Williamson on
one of his expeditions in South America. I'm not entirely
sure if these these were the ones, but it was, yeah,
(08:23):
some kind of uh attempt at at letting us know
certain things. But I must say I haven't. I haven't
really studied this particular part of the account because for
me Adamski, Adamski's significance is much more in what he
(08:49):
understood of life. And you know, he was aware that
consciousness is fundamental to to our objective reality. So I've
never been too much into the physicality of flying sorcer
or of spacecraft. You know, how long were they what
was the asthma of where they were cited? It's about
(09:13):
why are they here? And if Adamski was teaching about
the fundamental nature of consciousness in the nineteen thirties and
continued to do so throughout his life, despite critics saying
that he came into the flying sourcer business because that's
where the money was to be made. That's complete nonsense,
(09:35):
because in his books, or his book Inside the Spaceships
that relates many more of his later encounters from nineteen
fifty three onward, he is told by his extrateractive contacts
also about the fundamental of consciousness being fun mental to
(10:00):
to reality, and in his even in his latest books,
Cosmic Philosophy and the Science of Life Study Course, he
continues to talk about consciousness and the need for for
humanity to expand its consciousness and it's and it's understanding
of life if we are to survive. He even said
(10:23):
in a talk in nineteen fifty five, the main thing
is not you know about about It's not about flying
sources or about me or any any other phenomenon. The
main thing is what is transpiring in this world today,
and what is transpiring now is that humanity and the
coming of the visitors from space is to do or
(10:46):
is causing or and should be causing an expansion of
our awareness of life and the and the nature of life.
So I'm you know, I'm sorry, but I'm not really
into the specifics of the things that many critics because
you know, all these physical things can be disputed and
(11:07):
have been disputed, especially if you don't read what Damski
said about it himself. You know, so many of the
critics are just parratting the the initial so called analysis
by by Jim mostly and when you go when you
go into it, it doesn't just doesn't hold up the criticism.
(11:30):
And that's why for me, the main part is is
the his his vision is the visionary quality of Adamski.
He was aware of what is going on in the world.
He was aware that we're at the at the you know,
a critical moment in in our history. And as I said,
(11:54):
he he knew that there's more to life than just
being born and dying, and that see, and we have
to make the best.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Of it, Like, right, can you tell me?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm sorry? Science? And that's I think what I've tried
to do in my book Science is confirming these very
fundamental notions that Adampski has been putting forward throughout his
life and his career.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Okay, so, but can we just if we could just
go back to Orthon for a moment, because what was
can you share what Orthon's I guess primary message to
Adamski was.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Hm, hm, yes. That's another interesting aspect of this first
account when Adamski asked him why are you coming? Why
when's your visits or why are you coming here? And
Orton then gestured made just of the atomic clouds and
(13:04):
a dampsely check are you here because of the you know,
the atomic bomb explosions. So and it was also in
the first report about this desert encounter in November fifty two.
Four days later there was a report in the Phoenix
Gazette and it actually headlined let's see if I can
(13:27):
Yeah here, we are here, we are flying is also
passenger declares a bomb last reason for visits. So it
was it was the one of the main reasons for
for the visitors from space to come at this particular
(13:48):
time in our history. And of course this has been
supported by many other many other contactees who were told
the same thing. The same time. There's plenty of other
UFO researchers who have come to the same conclusion that
(14:09):
you know, we started noticing FOO fighters on the tales
of fighter jets in World War Two, especially after after
the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And there have
been numerous sightings of UFOs over nuclear nuclear arm bases
(14:31):
and testing grounds starting in the nineteen fifties or maybe
even the nineteen forties. And of course we're all I'm
sure most listeners are aware of the press conference organized
and the documentary made by Richard what's his name, Robert Sallas,
(14:53):
Robert Shallas sorry, Yeah, Robert Hastings, Robert Hays, Robert in
twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, the UFO incursion over Malmstrom Air Force Base that
took place in nineteen sixty seven and where they shut
down a bunch of ICBM missiles took them offline exactly.
And there were others in sixty seven as well, Malmstrom
and Minute Air Force Base as well.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah. And Robert Hastings for his documentary brought together a
group of one hundred and twenty former and active military
officers who were based at these nuclear missile facilities US
military facilities, and they all witnessed the same thing of
(15:43):
missile shutdowns involving UFO sightings. And his documentary from twenty
ten documents the same thing from unsuspected in or unsuspicious
what do you call that? You know, sources that are reliable,
(16:03):
these these military men who haven't trained thoroughly.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Right, unimpeachable.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, the same thing was already told to George Dampski
and reported by George Dampsky in nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more,
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