April 8, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and paranormal investigator Rick McCallum discuss his ghost hunting experiences throughout the United States and Scotland, his encounter with a ghost haunting his father's home, and the most dangerous stunt he performed during his career as a Hollywood stuntman.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back George Nori with you. Rick McCallum one
of the founders of the Hollywood Ghost Hunters and as
the author of the award winning book Ghosts Believe In Me,
as well as his latest book, The Spirits Are Out
There and They Are Waiting for You. Rick has been
seen on Ghost Adventures, Home and Family and has done
many livestream paranormal investigations on the Dark Stone and Spirit Around.
(00:28):
He has worked in the stunt business for more than
forty years and has more than seventy five movie and
television credits. He spends every summer investigated the haunted castles
of Scotland, Ireland and England. And here he is on
Coast to Coast again, Rick, welcome back. Have you been I've.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Been great, George. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We miss you. It's been a couple of years, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I still listen to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We still talk about you, my friend. You got together
with the folks and put together the Adventures with the
Hollywood Ghost Hunters. How far, how far back?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, that's got to be like twelve years ago. When
we first started that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Did that with your friend Kane Hotter and Ara Hiloff, Right.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, for people who don't know, Caine Hodter played Jason
in four of the Friday the Thirteenth movies and Ari
Mahiloff played leather Face in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre number three.
So we've got kind of a creepy group just with us. Three.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Is the Hollywood ghost Hunter still active?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, just Kin and I just had a ghost on
two weeks ago. But it's getting harder because when we
first started, we were all working on the same movies.
Now it's Ari has moved. He lives in Pennsylvania, Kane lives,
you know, farther up, and we're not close. We used
to be within thirty miles, so if we wanted a
ghost on, we were on the bat. But we still
(02:02):
have plans to getting out there because we get offered
different things to go to go do. The problem being
is that Cain is always busy as an actor, so
you know, we have to take our shots when we
can get them.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Are you still doing stunts or have you slowed down
a little bit?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
No, I'm one hundred and sixteen years old. I've I've
gone to the ghost hunting and the writing and going
to Scotland as much as I can.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
How did you folks come up with the concept of
the Hollywood ghost Hunters.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I had always wanted to start a ghost hunting
group and I used to you know, go with some
people and if there was a noise, they went backwards.
That's not what I was looking for. And Cain and
I and ra we were all doing a movie at
Mansfield Prison in Ohio. And one night, about two in
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the morning, Cain and I were walking back from the
set and everybody was gone, and it was the perfect
movie set. It was like there was light coming in
from the windows and all the bars were rusted, all
the cells. And as we're walking down the way, we
see a shadow run across in front of us. So
I turned around to say something to Kane, and he's gone,
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and I thought, oh boy, even the big scary chasing
guy runs away. And then I turned back and looked
the other way and there he was running down the
hallway towards it. So I said, all right, that's the
guy that I got to start the group with right there.
So that's pretty much right there in Mansfield Prison where
we got started.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Isn't that where they put al Capone?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Now, al Capone was in Alcatraz for quite a while,
and the big thing for Mansfield is where that's where
they shot the Shaw Shank redemption.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Going on in Hollywood these days, rick.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
In regards which way ghost hunting or just plain old
Hollywood plan.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Old plan, old Hollywood. Is it going through a metamorphosis?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh yes, Oh yeah, it's I don't know. It's really
kind of losing the luster of Hollywood. Just to be
honest with you, there's not there's not that old energy
that there used to be.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm hearing that. What's causing that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Too many people trying to get famous, I think, and
too many people, you know, trying to get movies done
and doing it the short way, and the movies don't
come out very good, and you know, it's just it's
just not the same way as it used to be.
It used to be the people that were doing the
movies were boom boom, boom boom. You know, you could
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count on them, they'd run you through. But now there's
so many people and I don't blame them. They're all
trying to start and get their own movies going, and
you know, it's if you don't have deep pockets in
the work.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Or have access to it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
When you were on the TV show Ghost Adventures. How
did that start?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That started because the Ghost Adventures guys were at a
paranormal conference and Kane was there also as Jason, and
they had heard about our ghost hunting and they Kane
was talking and they said he just Toldly says, well,
you just should just have us on, and it kind
of went from there and that's how we ended up
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being on it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And what has been for you in your stunt career?
The most dangerous stunt you've ever done, Boy.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's a long list. I'll tell you the one that
I remembered the most. I was playing a werewolf for
a movie called Dark Wolf, and I was the dark
Wolf and there was a car that had the main
people in it and it's running away, trying to get
away from the werewolf. So it takes off going backwards
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and I come out and run and jump on the
hood and the car takes off and down the way
there are two rows thick and two rows high of
fifty five gallon drums, all metal, and it goes flying
down there and does the crack the whip maneuver, you know,
by sliding it backwards and just launched me headfirst into
(06:29):
the barrels. And yeah, that left the mark. But the
funniest part about that as I was walking out there
and the one thing you can tell when people think
you're going to get hurt, the entire cast and crew
shows up to watch the stunt. And this one girl,
Andrea Bogart, really sweet, one of the actresses. She came
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up to me. She goes, Rick, are you going to
get hurt? And I went yeah, and she goes, how bad?
I said, let you know of it, and I jumped
up on the cart off we went.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I hear Tom Tom Cruise does his own stunts, doesn't he?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He does most of them. Yeah, I mean, uh, you know,
he's gotten pretty famous on doing some pretty hairy stuff,
I mean off the side of the plane, with the motorcycles,
off the cliff, and you know he's he's just a
really pretty good athlete too, So I mean he he
would have been a great stunt man if he hadn't
been an actor.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Have you ever been scared doing a stunt?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
After I did it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
After?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, because when we were doing when when we were
doing Dark Wolf. We were at this one small studio
and one of the one of the scenes was that
I'm chasing these two people and they run into one
of those big industrial elevators, you know, the one the
kind of the thing slides down, and I've got the
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mask on underneath, you know, I'm dressed like the werewolf.
And the the problem with that was that thing would
drop in front of me and I couldn't see, but
I knew where I was at. I knew that the
elevator was right there, and it had that safety thing
over it, and the director wanted me to hit it,
go back into you know, like a stance of a werewolf,
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and hit it again, and on the third time really
hit it. And on the second time I hit it,
and then I waited and I just started, and I
heard somebody else stop, and somebody grabbed me by the
back of my neck and yanked me backwards, and you know,
they came over and they took the helmet and the
mask off and everything else, and I looked the second time,
I'd hit the elevator so hard it stuck the safety
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rail to the thing and it went up along with
the elevator. So I was getting ready to jump right
into the empty elevator shaft.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No, well, how did you end up doing ghost hunting
in Scotland, Ireland and England?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know, George, it's an amazing thing. I've always had
an amaze poll for Scotland. I don't know why. I mean,
I'm Scottish ancestor and we have a lot of people
from over there, but I just always wanted to go there.
And when I got there, I got to meet some
people from Scottish paranormal which I'd put them up against
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any group there is, so they're really good. And we
just went around. I mean we went to Ireland together.
I went to England with another group. I mean, it's
just there are so many people in the ghost hunting
in Scotland. I mean you can go every night.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
What are some of the most haunted spots in the
United Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, there's a Bulgoni Castle in Scotland is very hot
and I've been there many many times. Matter of fact,
you guys know what The Franks Box is, the wooden
box that Thomas Edison invented, right, And I just sat
there and I said, is there anything in this castle?
We need to worry about, and this voice came back
(10:01):
and went the energy. I was like, okay, but yeah,
there's Balgonie Castle is is very haunted, but really nice
people that run the place. This other place I went
was Bolton Abbey in England, and that thing was that
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was kind of mean spirits. I mean, one guy got
knocked out. He was laying flat on the on the
ground and we picked him up and dragged him over there.
And I had been a lifeguard for four years, so
he was he was out and I was looking at
him and his chest started vibrating like you know, and
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that can mean one of two things. He's either you know,
very cold and it was cold out, or he's going
into shock. So I put him on the ground. I
got the people that were with me to put their
equipment cases so he could put his feed up, and
I took my coat off and put it on him,
and I was rubbing as the extremities and everything else,
and these other people that are with me took their
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coats off. We just buried him in the coats and finally,
after about ten to fifteen minutes, he started to come
back around. But there's another story about that, if you'd
like to hear, because it's really pretty fascinating.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Sure, go for it.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The girl that was taking us, Mandy Fellows from Anubis.
She was telling us the story of both an Abbey
and supposedly there was several spirits that would not if
they wanted you, they would not let you go through
this one gate. Now I'm walking along behind her and
another girl. We get towards the gate and I can
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see she's got a necklace on, and I see the
necklace yank backwards and actually give her a burn on
her neck. And I was right behind her. I saw
him as clear as a bell. And she goes. She
starts to walk and she goes, wow, there's something holding
me back. I don't know what to do. I said,
just muscle through it.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Go.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So she does. And the next girl come. She goes,
and this girl has been a soldier, right, and she
comes up there and she goes, it's got me too, right,
I just go just push. So she goes through. Then
it's my turn, and it was like, yeah, you can go,
come on, just move along. Not to see here, So
they didn't try and stop me. But you know, when
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this guy went down, I mean, boom, he's just that
that was pretty scary. But there was all kinds of
activity going on there. Their dark shapes going around, the
k two meters were going off, the rempods were going off.
It's very very haunted.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Would you say those areas wreck there are more haunted
than the United States?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Oh? Yes, so much so. When I try to tell people,
especially about Scotland is it's much much older than us,
and it was built pretty much on killing the other
people that were interloping. I mean they used to have
these Titanic battles and it's not like us shooting drones
and things like that. These people had axes and swords,
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and some of the people that were farmers that joined
in it just came out there with scythes and whatever
they could find and they would be fighting face to face.
I mean this was not any you know, any fun
for anybody. So when you think about the energy that
was left over and the people that died, I mean
they were everywhere in Scotland. There was wars, so I
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mean pretty much anywhere you go you got a pretty
good chance of it being honored.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Your book, Ghosts Believe In Me is about you, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Basically? It's about different things that I've I've gone through
and seen and everything else, which is, uh, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What compelled you? What compelled you to write it? Wrick?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, you know, I'd been on different shows right. Matter
of fact, one of them that really really helped was
call Coast to Coast I Am. After I did that,
a lot more people wanted to talk to me, so
thank you. But I had so many stories and people
would ask me about what about this, what about this?
What about this? And finally at this one, I need
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to write this down. And after I wrote them all down,
I was like, holy cow, look at all this stuff.
So I just made it into a book. And I
was on the air with another podcaster and they said,
congratulations on your book. Now that's what a lot of
people say when you write a book. And I said, oh, thanks,
and he goes, no, he says, you know, you won
(14:33):
the paranormal book of the Year, and I went I said,
I did, thanks, So that was a surprise.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
There was a house in Texas that was very haunted.
Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh my god, yeah, it was my dad's house. My
dad and I had been not very friendly for about
eight years, and finally he invited me to down to
his house in Texas. So I drove down there from
Chicago with a friend of mine and when we got there,
we talked for a few minutes and he had one
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of his salesmen with him, and he says, I have
to drive Wally back to the bar. They've been drinking
all night and he's just I said, why are you
driving it back to the bar? And he goes, he's
got to get his car to drive home. I said,
you really think that's a good idea. So they took
him and my friend went with him. So I asked
my dad, I said, what do you want me to sleep?
He goes in the room right there. I go in
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this room and it's got a canopy bed, you know,
like a lady's bed. I go in to lock and
it's got a little slider lock on the door, and
the window is right at my feet so I can
see the room. And I leaned back to go to sleep,
and I hear right next to my ear, and I'm like,
what was that? And I'm not scared, It's just like,
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what was that? And I thought to myself, I had
just leaned back again, and it did it again. So
I thought, because I had just out, and I said,
does he have a dog? So I got out and
I looked under the bed and I opened up the closet.
There's no dog. So I got back down. And then
there was another one that was even louder, and ah.
I was like, all right, this is weird. And I
sat up and I was looking over and I saw
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the air conditioner was right near me, and I thought, wow,
it's just the air conditioner. Turn it off, and now
they go wish And then I went, wait a minute,
they don't do it three times in a row. And
I swear to God and that means a lot to me.
By the way, a real loud one was right behind
my right ear and on my neck, and I could
feel the heat and it went. I got up, grabbed
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the door, and because it was dark on that side,
I couldn't get the door open because I forgot about
the slider lock. So I just grabbed the door and
I pulled it and busted the frame, just busted it loose.
And I went outside. And my dad lived in a
cul de sac and I'm standing out in the lawn
and he comes back with my friend Tom and he
gets out and he goes, he got you.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, he knew about it, and.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He goes, ah, he goes, he gets everybody. And it
was true. Anybody that came to visit. Boy, that house
was so haunted. I mean, I would love to go
back there and do like a TV special about this place,
because it's the most haunted, by far place I've ever been.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What's the history of the guy who went rah?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
We don't know, but according to what we'd learned, we
would see these transparent kind of shapes going through the
living room and out the back door, you know, through
the back windows. We're like, wow, what is that? So
many people saw it wasn't just just us, but found
out that these guys had been gangsters and they had
a house down the hill, and they actually had all
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kinds of secret rooms and everything else. It was a
mansion actually built into this place. Well, they were coming
home from some of their misdeeds and the people caught
him before they could get in their house, and they
took up off the hill. This was long before our
house was ever built. They's just the hill and they
caught them up there, and the story goes that all
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three of them are hung in our backyard.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Unbelievable. You've come across a lot of stuff in your career, Rick, Well.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know what it's. I look for it. You know,
sometimes you don't have to look for it, to just
hitch in the face. But you know the reason I
go to Scotland every year is to get into the
castles and the places like that. And you know, get
ready for book three.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back George Nori with you. Rick McCallum one
of the founders of the Hollywood Ghost Hunters and as
the author of the award winning book Ghosts Believe In Me,
as well as his latest book, The Spirits Are Out
There and They Are Waiting for You. Rick has been
seen on Ghost Adventures, Home and Family and has done
many livestream paranormal investigations on the Dark Stone and Spirit Around.
(00:28):
He has worked in the stunt business for more than
forty years and has more than seventy five movie and
television credits. He spends every summer investigated the haunted castles
of Scotland, Ireland and England. And here he is on
Coast to Coast again, Rick, welcome back. Have you been I've.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Been great, George. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We miss you. It's been a couple of years, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I still listen to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We still talk about you, my friend. You got together
with the folks and put together the Adventures with the
Hollywood Ghost Hunters. How far, how far back?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, that's got to be like twelve years ago. When
we first started that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Did that with your friend Kane Hotter and Ara Hiloff, Right.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, for people who don't know, Caine Hodter played Jason
in four of the Friday the Thirteenth movies and Ari
Mahiloff played leather Face in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre number three.
So we've got kind of a creepy group just with us. Three.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Is the Hollywood ghost Hunter still active?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, just Kin and I just had a ghost on
two weeks ago. But it's getting harder because when we
first started, we were all working on the same movies.
Now it's Ari has moved. He lives in Pennsylvania, Kane lives,
you know, farther up, and we're not close. We used
to be within thirty miles, so if we wanted a
ghost on, we were on the bat. But we still
(02:02):
have plans to getting out there because we get offered
different things to go to go do. The problem being
is that Cain is always busy as an actor, so
you know, we have to take our shots when we
can get them.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Are you still doing stunts or have you slowed down
a little bit?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
No, I'm one hundred and sixteen years old. I've I've
gone to the ghost hunting and the writing and going
to Scotland as much as I can.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
How did you folks come up with the concept of
the Hollywood ghost Hunters.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I had always wanted to start a ghost hunting
group and I used to you know, go with some
people and if there was a noise, they went backwards.
That's not what I was looking for. And Cain and
I and ra we were all doing a movie at
Mansfield Prison in Ohio. And one night, about two in
(02:59):
the morning, Cain and I were walking back from the
set and everybody was gone, and it was the perfect
movie set. It was like there was light coming in
from the windows and all the bars were rusted, all
the cells. And as we're walking down the way, we
see a shadow run across in front of us. So
I turned around to say something to Kane, and he's gone,
(03:21):
and I thought, oh boy, even the big scary chasing
guy runs away. And then I turned back and looked
the other way and there he was running down the
hallway towards it. So I said, all right, that's the
guy that I got to start the group with right there.
So that's pretty much right there in Mansfield Prison where
we got started.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Isn't that where they put al Capone?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Now, al Capone was in Alcatraz for quite a while,
and the big thing for Mansfield is where that's where
they shot the Shaw Shank redemption.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Going on in Hollywood these days, rick.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
In regards which way ghost hunting or just plain old
Hollywood plan.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Old plan, old Hollywood. Is it going through a metamorphosis?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh yes, Oh yeah, it's I don't know. It's really
kind of losing the luster of Hollywood. Just to be
honest with you, there's not there's not that old energy
that there used to be.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm hearing that. What's causing that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Too many people trying to get famous, I think, and
too many people, you know, trying to get movies done
and doing it the short way, and the movies don't
come out very good, and you know, it's just it's
just not the same way as it used to be.
It used to be the people that were doing the
movies were boom boom, boom boom. You know, you could
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count on them, they'd run you through. But now there's
so many people and I don't blame them. They're all
trying to start and get their own movies going, and
you know, it's if you don't have deep pockets in
the work.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Or have access to it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
When you were on the TV show Ghost Adventures. How
did that start?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That started because the Ghost Adventures guys were at a
paranormal conference and Kane was there also as Jason, and
they had heard about our ghost hunting and they Kane
was talking and they said he just Toldly says, well,
you just should just have us on, and it kind
of went from there and that's how we ended up
(05:37):
being on it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And what has been for you in your stunt career?
The most dangerous stunt you've ever done, Boy.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's a long list. I'll tell you the one that
I remembered the most. I was playing a werewolf for
a movie called Dark Wolf, and I was the dark
Wolf and there was a car that had the main
people in it and it's running away, trying to get
away from the werewolf. So it takes off going backwards
(06:09):
and I come out and run and jump on the
hood and the car takes off and down the way
there are two rows thick and two rows high of
fifty five gallon drums, all metal, and it goes flying
down there and does the crack the whip maneuver, you know,
by sliding it backwards and just launched me headfirst into
(06:29):
the barrels. And yeah, that left the mark. But the
funniest part about that as I was walking out there
and the one thing you can tell when people think
you're going to get hurt, the entire cast and crew
shows up to watch the stunt. And this one girl,
Andrea Bogart, really sweet, one of the actresses. She came
(06:50):
up to me. She goes, Rick, are you going to
get hurt? And I went yeah, and she goes, how bad?
I said, let you know of it, and I jumped
up on the cart off we went.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I hear Tom Tom Cruise does his own stunts, doesn't he?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He does most of them. Yeah, I mean, uh, you know,
he's gotten pretty famous on doing some pretty hairy stuff,
I mean off the side of the plane, with the motorcycles,
off the cliff, and you know he's he's just a
really pretty good athlete too, So I mean he he
would have been a great stunt man if he hadn't
been an actor.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Have you ever been scared doing a stunt?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
After I did it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
After?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, because when we were doing when when we were
doing Dark Wolf. We were at this one small studio
and one of the one of the scenes was that
I'm chasing these two people and they run into one
of those big industrial elevators, you know, the one the
kind of the thing slides down, and I've got the
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mask on underneath, you know, I'm dressed like the werewolf.
And the the problem with that was that thing would
drop in front of me and I couldn't see, but
I knew where I was at. I knew that the
elevator was right there, and it had that safety thing
over it, and the director wanted me to hit it,
go back into you know, like a stance of a werewolf,
(08:16):
and hit it again, and on the third time really
hit it. And on the second time I hit it,
and then I waited and I just started, and I
heard somebody else stop, and somebody grabbed me by the
back of my neck and yanked me backwards, and you know,
they came over and they took the helmet and the
mask off and everything else, and I looked the second time,
I'd hit the elevator so hard it stuck the safety
(08:40):
rail to the thing and it went up along with
the elevator. So I was getting ready to jump right
into the empty elevator shaft.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No, well, how did you end up doing ghost hunting
in Scotland, Ireland and England?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know, George, it's an amazing thing. I've always had
an amaze poll for Scotland. I don't know why. I mean,
I'm Scottish ancestor and we have a lot of people
from over there, but I just always wanted to go there.
And when I got there, I got to meet some
people from Scottish paranormal which I'd put them up against
(09:17):
any group there is, so they're really good. And we
just went around. I mean we went to Ireland together.
I went to England with another group. I mean, it's
just there are so many people in the ghost hunting
in Scotland. I mean you can go every night.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
What are some of the most haunted spots in the
United Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, there's a Bulgoni Castle in Scotland is very hot
and I've been there many many times. Matter of fact,
you guys know what The Franks Box is, the wooden
box that Thomas Edison invented, right, And I just sat
there and I said, is there anything in this castle?
We need to worry about, and this voice came back
(10:01):
and went the energy. I was like, okay, but yeah,
there's Balgonie Castle is is very haunted, but really nice
people that run the place. This other place I went
was Bolton Abbey in England, and that thing was that
(10:22):
was kind of mean spirits. I mean, one guy got
knocked out. He was laying flat on the on the
ground and we picked him up and dragged him over there.
And I had been a lifeguard for four years, so
he was he was out and I was looking at
him and his chest started vibrating like you know, and
(10:42):
that can mean one of two things. He's either you know,
very cold and it was cold out, or he's going
into shock. So I put him on the ground. I
got the people that were with me to put their
equipment cases so he could put his feed up, and
I took my coat off and put it on him,
and I was rubbing as the extremities and everything else,
and these other people that are with me took their
(11:04):
coats off. We just buried him in the coats and finally,
after about ten to fifteen minutes, he started to come
back around. But there's another story about that, if you'd
like to hear, because it's really pretty fascinating.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Sure, go for it.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The girl that was taking us, Mandy Fellows from Anubis.
She was telling us the story of both an Abbey
and supposedly there was several spirits that would not if
they wanted you, they would not let you go through
this one gate. Now I'm walking along behind her and
another girl. We get towards the gate and I can
(11:40):
see she's got a necklace on, and I see the
necklace yank backwards and actually give her a burn on
her neck. And I was right behind her. I saw
him as clear as a bell. And she goes. She
starts to walk and she goes, wow, there's something holding
me back. I don't know what to do. I said,
just muscle through it.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Go.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So she does. And the next girl come. She goes,
and this girl has been a soldier, right, and she
comes up there and she goes, it's got me too, right,
I just go just push. So she goes through. Then
it's my turn, and it was like, yeah, you can go,
come on, just move along. Not to see here, So
they didn't try and stop me. But you know, when
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this guy went down, I mean, boom, he's just that
that was pretty scary. But there was all kinds of
activity going on there. Their dark shapes going around, the
k two meters were going off, the rempods were going off.
It's very very haunted.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Would you say those areas wreck there are more haunted
than the United States?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Oh? Yes, so much so. When I try to tell people,
especially about Scotland is it's much much older than us,
and it was built pretty much on killing the other
people that were interloping. I mean they used to have
these Titanic battles and it's not like us shooting drones
and things like that. These people had axes and swords,
(13:01):
and some of the people that were farmers that joined
in it just came out there with scythes and whatever
they could find and they would be fighting face to face.
I mean this was not any you know, any fun
for anybody. So when you think about the energy that
was left over and the people that died, I mean
they were everywhere in Scotland. There was wars, so I
(13:24):
mean pretty much anywhere you go you got a pretty
good chance of it being honored.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Your book, Ghosts Believe In Me is about you, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Basically? It's about different things that I've I've gone through
and seen and everything else, which is, uh, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What compelled you? What compelled you to write it? Wrick?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, you know, I'd been on different shows right. Matter
of fact, one of them that really really helped was
call Coast to Coast I Am. After I did that,
a lot more people wanted to talk to me, so
thank you. But I had so many stories and people
would ask me about what about this, what about this?
What about this? And finally at this one, I need
(14:13):
to write this down. And after I wrote them all down,
I was like, holy cow, look at all this stuff.
So I just made it into a book. And I
was on the air with another podcaster and they said,
congratulations on your book. Now that's what a lot of
people say when you write a book. And I said, oh, thanks,
and he goes, no, he says, you know, you won
(14:33):
the paranormal book of the Year, and I went I said,
I did, thanks, So that was a surprise.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
There was a house in Texas that was very haunted.
Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh my god, yeah, it was my dad's house. My
dad and I had been not very friendly for about
eight years, and finally he invited me to down to
his house in Texas. So I drove down there from
Chicago with a friend of mine and when we got there,
we talked for a few minutes and he had one
(15:09):
of his salesmen with him, and he says, I have
to drive Wally back to the bar. They've been drinking
all night and he's just I said, why are you
driving it back to the bar? And he goes, he's
got to get his car to drive home. I said,
you really think that's a good idea. So they took
him and my friend went with him. So I asked
my dad, I said, what do you want me to sleep?
He goes in the room right there. I go in
(15:30):
this room and it's got a canopy bed, you know,
like a lady's bed. I go in to lock and
it's got a little slider lock on the door, and
the window is right at my feet so I can
see the room. And I leaned back to go to sleep,
and I hear right next to my ear, and I'm like,
what was that? And I'm not scared, It's just like,
(15:52):
what was that? And I thought to myself, I had
just leaned back again, and it did it again. So
I thought, because I had just out, and I said,
does he have a dog? So I got out and
I looked under the bed and I opened up the closet.
There's no dog. So I got back down. And then
there was another one that was even louder, and ah.
I was like, all right, this is weird. And I
sat up and I was looking over and I saw
(16:13):
the air conditioner was right near me, and I thought, wow,
it's just the air conditioner. Turn it off, and now
they go wish And then I went, wait a minute,
they don't do it three times in a row. And
I swear to God and that means a lot to me.
By the way, a real loud one was right behind
my right ear and on my neck, and I could
feel the heat and it went. I got up, grabbed
(16:38):
the door, and because it was dark on that side,
I couldn't get the door open because I forgot about
the slider lock. So I just grabbed the door and
I pulled it and busted the frame, just busted it loose.
And I went outside. And my dad lived in a
cul de sac and I'm standing out in the lawn
and he comes back with my friend Tom and he
gets out and he goes, he got you.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, he knew about it, and.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He goes, ah, he goes, he gets everybody. And it
was true. Anybody that came to visit. Boy, that house
was so haunted. I mean, I would love to go
back there and do like a TV special about this place,
because it's the most haunted, by far place I've ever been.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What's the history of the guy who went rah?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
We don't know, but according to what we'd learned, we
would see these transparent kind of shapes going through the
living room and out the back door, you know, through
the back windows. We're like, wow, what is that? So
many people saw it wasn't just just us, but found
out that these guys had been gangsters and they had
a house down the hill, and they actually had all
(17:45):
kinds of secret rooms and everything else. It was a
mansion actually built into this place. Well, they were coming
home from some of their misdeeds and the people caught
him before they could get in their house, and they
took up off the hill. This was long before our
house was ever built. They's just the hill and they
caught them up there, and the story goes that all
(18:06):
three of them are hung in our backyard.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Unbelievable. You've come across a lot of stuff in your career, Rick, Well.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know what it's. I look for it. You know,
sometimes you don't have to look for it, to just
hitch in the face. But you know the reason I
go to Scotland every year is to get into the
castles and the places like that. And you know, get
ready for book three.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
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