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October 21, 2025 19 mins

George Noory and homeopathic author Sara Chana explore her research into the healing power of herbs and roots, how ancient civilizations knew about the healing properties of herbs and plants, and how seasonal changes impact our bodies and moods.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory with you,
Sarah Hannah back with us. Sarah is a master herbalist,
classical homeopath, and an author. A dynamic mother of seven,
she blends ancient wisdom with modern science to teach people
how to harness the healing power of herbs for both
their body and their mind. She is the author of

(00:26):
Mutopia Tame Your Moods, Distress and Find Balance using norbal remedies,
aromatherapy and more, and are much anticipated upcoming book, Mutopia
for Kids, is coming out sometime next year. Sarah, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Have you been George.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
It's so great to speak with you.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Do you have a date on Mutopia for Kids.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Yes, it's actually May eighth, so I'm super excited.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, we'll get you back on it close to that time.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
All right, absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, what's it going to be all about? Mutopia for Kids?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
You know, it's great because I'm following the guests that
was speaking about stress and anxiety and panic, and the
book is all about herbs and homeopathy that can be
used with children. The statistic of kids under age twelve
on psychotropic medications for anxiety and stress is astronomical, and

(01:22):
people don't know that herbs and homeopathy can really help
children and adults going through anxiety, stress, depression, new day
of school, going into the holidays, after the holidays. So
I really did tons of research. I interviewed a lot
of experts on anxiety and stress for kids, and that's

(01:42):
what the book is all about.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
What creates stress with our lives.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Sarah, Oh my gosh, just open your front door unless
you live on a farm, so you know, there's first
of all for kids, it's social media for a lot
of adults. Also, how many likes did I get? How
many clicks did I get? Do I look thin in
the picture? Do I look beautiful in the picture? That
is causing so much anxiety? I know you've spoken about

(02:07):
this on your Fantastic.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Show over and over.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
And then there's just anxiety in big cities with the noise,
the pollution, the sounds, the sights.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
So we really live in stressful times.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I mean, the blessing is most people really have clean
water and enough food and the ability to get rid
of their waste. But then we create all this anxiety
from things that are not necessarily important for our survival.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Sarah, We're coming into the greatest time period that I
just loves. I love fall in the winter, the weather changes,
it's nice, the leaves fall, it's just a great time.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Does that have anything to do with our moods Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Absolutely, so, I'm so excited to be on your show
this time of the year. Each season has its blessings
for our bodies and the stress of our body. So
we're coming out of the summer months where we're perspiring more.
We're eating a lot of berries and fruits that have
water soluble anti accidents that help give.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Us energy to go to the beach and go to
picnics and run around.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
And fall is this transition time where we prep our
bodies for the colder winter.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Now, of course it depends.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
On where you live, but most places after fall it's
really cold. So this fall period allows our bodies to
transition from heat that medium temperatures we're going into and
then into the colder winter weather.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I can't believe Halloween is next week, then we get
into Thanksgiving, then Christmas.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Where did this year go?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Sarah?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Oh, my gosh. And speaking of Halloween.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I want to say that, you know, all these foods.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
And supplements come on the market as superfoods, and I
have to tell you that pumpkin, which is so popular
right now.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Is such a superfood for us. As we're entering into
the fall.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
We have this amazing flesh of the pumpkin that's filled
with fiber. It's got a lot of antioxidants in it,
especially vitamin A and carotenoids that help with night vision
because we know we change our clocks it starts to
get dark sooner.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
We need that night vision. And the seeds inside the
pumpkin is protein.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
So if someone had no food but a pumpkin, they
could stay healthy, help with their night vision, and have
the protein to keep their muscles moving. So it's amazing
that this time of the year these pumpkins naturally grow.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
They're a gift for us.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
George, Sarah, what made you become a master herbalist?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Love that question, So I wanted to first share with
your audience what an herbalist is.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's always confusing for people.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So we know what a nurse is, we know what
a doctor is, we know what ad is, we know
what a dentist's that's very much part of our culture,
but in cultures around the world, herbalists are also a staple.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
So someone like myself, I.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Really studied conventional medicine, anatomy and physiology, disease process.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
I have to know about all the pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I have to know everything about the human body from
birth to one hundred and twenty. And then my job
as an herbalist is to know about plant based botanical
medicines so I can make suggestions to my clients and
patients about which herbs will help their body heal. So

(05:54):
it's so interesting because you have so many fabulous guests,
George that talk about spiritual and depth and energy and
it's so fantastic, But we still our body. Our soul
lives in this body where we have to urinate and
we have to eat, and we sweat and we can

(06:15):
break out and we can get cankersores right, So for
me and my practice, I'm really looking at the person
their strengths and weaknesses of their physical body and trying
to match that to a plant. And when people start
using plant medicine, George, there's no side effects.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
When you're taking the right herbs, you can take more
or less.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Depending on what your needs are. And most importantly, it
empowers people to be able to take care of their
health and the health of their family around them.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Answer your question, George, but I went off on a
tangent because I think it's really important to know that
plants are here to heal us no matter what the
weather changes, no matter what the climate change.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
George. It shocks me because I walked down the streets.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
I live in Brooklyn, as your audience knows, you know,
a crazy city, and through the cracks of the concrete,
whether we have a cold winter or a warm winter
or lots of rain, those herbs grow at the appropriate time,
no matter what. Isn't that fascinating?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
What sure is?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Indeed it is. We have a guest named Christian Wilde.
His website is myhardbook dot com. He was on years
ago with me and I told him about turmaic and
that I've been using it for years before that, and
he decided to run with it and came up with
his own turmeric formula, which is pretty darn good.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Herb?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
You know, I knew we were going to talk about turmeric,
so one of the things we're going to tell today
is root plants, because as the leaves fall and the
flowers are no longer blooming, the energy of the plant
goes down to the root and herbalist in the fall
and winter, I have been using root plants. So tumeric,

(08:16):
which I know is one of your favorites, is a
root plant. It is absolutely gorgeous. It has this incredible
orange color. It helps with inflammation, It helps with joint pain,
muscle pain, it can help with brain fog. So I
am a huge fan of tumerica.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What is it, Sarah, about the color of the herbs
that has a lot to do with their potency?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
So interesting because I have a school online called Mutopia Academy,
and I have this fantastic woman coming and speaking in January,
and she's a chemist and does research on the different
colored plants and where and how it affects the body.
So our orange is specific as I mentioned earlier, helps

(09:06):
with night vision. So eating carrots, like our grandmothers and
grandmothers great grandmothers told us, is really important for eyehealth.
So people get very confused because they're like, well, it
didn't change my prescription. I still need my reading glasses.
I still need my regular glasses. But what it does
is the antioxidentt of crottenstin, which is in carrots and

(09:30):
sweet potatoes and pumpkins, actually sharpen our night vision.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
So years ago, if you had to go to the outhouse.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
In the middle of the night, George, you wanted to
make sure that your eyes were sharp, you could see
if you were stepping on anything, and make sure that you.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Could get there safely.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
So all these plants and all these vegetables and tumerica included,
have this gorgeous orange color which really helps sharpen our
night vision.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
One of the reasons I'm a believer in the theory
of intelligent design is that you look at this planet
and it has so many remedies for illnesses and diseases
and conditions.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
And it's right here for us on the planet. It
grows here.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I mean, who could come up with that idea that
doesn't happen by accident.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Absolutely not for those of your listeners that are religious minded.
In Psalms, it says that the maker created grass for
the cattle and herbs for the service of man. And
I love that word service, George, because they are here

(10:45):
to serve us and you know, as an herbalist. Even
living in a busy city because I vacillate between Los
Angeles and New York, I am amazed at all the
edible plants that grow in our everywhere you are. And
one of the things I love to share with your
listeners is they can just google edible plants in my area. Now,

(11:10):
I'm not saying that people should go out and start
picking plants and eating them, but people are shocked at
what you know, in their little three block radius grows
that's edible.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
So interesting. I was in Detroit. I know you are
from Detroit, yep.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
I was with my friend walking a dog and I
look on this tree and it was, you know, a
suburban area and there is a reshie mushroom growing on
the trunk. Now, Rishi mushroom is one of the most
medicinal mushrooms.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
That we have. It helps us with our immune system.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's an immuno modulator that means, if you're overreacting, it'll
bring down that immune system. If you're underreacting, it'll bring
it up. So it modulates it and it's growing. George
on my I walk on the side of a tree.
Now you have to know how to process rishi mushroom.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
But like I would have never thought in Detroit you'd
see a rishi mushroom and there it was.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You find everything in Detroit. It's a great town.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yes, there's a lot of medicinal plants in Detroit, even
in the busy city.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
They grow everywhere. It's amazing, Sarah.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
How did the ancients know how to correlate certain roots
of herbs with illnesses and remedies? How did they know
this trial and error?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
What happened?

Speaker 5 (12:37):
You know, It's a question I asked myself all the time,
and I wasn't living in those times. So I'm very
lucky now because we have researchers.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Even at the NIH, they have.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
A whole section on their website. Everybody should know about
medicinal plants. They can look at the genus of the plant,
they can look at these clinical studies. You know what
their action is on the body. So I'm very spoiled, George,
because I have so many amazing resources.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I don't know one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
But for example, there's an herb called Osha. Osha is
called bear root, and what the ancient saw was that
when bears came out of their hibernation.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Having slept, they.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Would come out and they would dig up this plant
called osha and chew on the root back to root herbs,
and we find that osha opens up the lungs.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
And if you've ever had a cough or a cold,
even a stuff he knows, and you take the herb osha,
it is unbelievable, George, because all of a sudden, ah,
you can take a deep breath. It opens up the lungs.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
So that is one way was observing the animals to
see what they would eat. For instances, an herb called
goats rough and when you plant it around goats goats,
the farmers say that the goats produce more milk, so
we use that very often in lactation.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
So I think our ancients really observed, you know, they
weren't distracted with social media.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
They observed the animals around them, and then they saw
which plants would overtake other plants, which plants were more
subtle and stay more hidden under trees. So I think
it was observation of the world around them.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
What do you recommend We talked about anxiety and stress
last hour. What do you recommend people take naturally to
kind of minimize it.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
So you know, George, excuse me.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
So many people that have anxiety have it in so
many different ways. A person can be anxious and overeat.
A person can be anxious and lose their appetite. A
person could be anxious and want to sleep all the time,
and the next person is anxious and they just cannot
fall asleep. Right. So, when you work with an herbalist,

(15:12):
when we have the word anxious, anxiety, stress, we're going
to talk to that patient for an hour and a
half to figure.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Out what that means to them.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
But for instance, root plants again, because right now, fall
is the root time. There's an herb called Valerian. Everybody's
heard of Valerian. The research on Valerian is so extensive, George,
Valerian is an herb that can take the edge off anxiety.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I have to tell you a funny story. I have
a client who calls me once or twice a year. Okay,
so she'll call me up and go, you know, Sarahana.
I don't know if you remember, but sometimes I get anxious.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
So I'm laughing, George, because I've been with her for
over fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'm like, oh, you do see I really don't know
what to do. Can you make some suggestions? So I
go over this twice a year. I'm like, can you
walk down your stairs? Sure, Sara Hana? Why? I'd like
you to go in the kitchen. Okay, sure? What's in
the kitchen?

Speaker 5 (16:17):
I want you to go behind your spice rack. She goes, Okay,
what am I looking for?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
I'm like, you always have a bottle of Valerian there.
She sticks her hand behind.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
The spice rack because I always have her put it
there because I know she's gonna call me. She takes
out her Valerian. I'm like, okay, what my suggestion is.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
I'd like you to take thirty five drops diluted in
a little grape juice three to four times a day.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
She starts laughing and goes, I totally forgot I have
it here. So for her when she gets into her
anxious state of mind, whatever's happening in her life, Valerian
will take the edge off of it.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Now.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Valerian has been used as a sleep aid because it
help with that cycling mind. You know, when you're thinking
and overthinking and overthinking, so Valerian can help.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Calm that down.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Valerian's a tricky herb. Though some people it gives them
energy and makes them more nervous, and some people it
calms them. So I'm mentioning Valerian because it's so popular.
You're gonna have fifty percent of the population that say
it's the best calming herb. You're gonna have fifty percent
that say it makes me a little more anxious. So

(17:29):
I want to put that out there. But my all
time favorite herb, which is not a route, which we've
spoken about before, is an herb called skull cap.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
It's from the mint family.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
It makes a lovely tea or you can take it
in a liquid form called a tincture, and skull cap
can take the edge off those.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Butterflies in your stomach.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
You know, you go on a new job interview, or
you're going on a date, or you have to do
a presentation at your office. Skullcap can just lessen and
get it out of your body so you can think through.
So skullcap is fantastic and I've never had anybody have

(18:14):
a negative side effect with it in my practice.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Sir, aren't Most medicines based on plants.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Originally, now a lot are created in the lab. We
have a little problem with essential oils because you can
label an essential oil and essential oil when.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
It's really chemically made.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
But yes, many, many, many or many medications like glucophage
which helps with diabetic and pre diabetes is from the plant,
which we discussed earlier go through. So yes, plants tend
to be for many medications. The impetus and the beginning
of where the research begins.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Correct.

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