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May 18, 2025 11 mins

Guest host Connie Willis and UFO investigator Philip Kinsella discuss the longtime suppression of stories that contradict the official extraterrestrial narrative.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think we get some UFO just looking at the
UFOs right now, I think we get well and visited
from outside of the plant. But I think we have
plenty of them that live here that have been here
for a long, long, long long time. And really, I
think that's what we're seeing a lot of. I'm not
saying they're not coming in and out along the way,

(00:26):
but there's so many that are already here and have
been here.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I just want to grab Elon, you know, and say, look, Elon,
I love you. I do. I'm one of those, like
it or not, I'm one of those. Because Elon is
right there doing his best trying to get that contact
right he is he wants to meet an alien, And
to me, it's like somebody, if you know Elon, tell

(00:54):
him to get a hold of me well and Philip
and we'll talk to him. Because he's that at one
conference or something at one point that hey, if anybody
meets an alien, it's going to be me because I'm
the one out there the furthest trying to get out
there to meet one. He said something similar to that
and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, he's so far off

(01:15):
when it comes to the Aliens, because they're here. You
don't have to do that. They're here. Call me, call me,
I'll talk to you. I'll set you up. And I'm serious.
So if anybody knows him, come on, we want to
get them on coast anyway. I think that would be great. Yeah,
and it's interesting that he's got these robots because when
you go back to what you had said about why

(01:38):
are the aliens going through the hybridization project, why would
they do that? Well, you know what if we are
their best robots, you know, we think of robots, has
got to be metality, you know, metal and this and that. Yeah,
but these things are so advanced. They know how to
make things biological and nobody's thinking about that. Everybody thinks

(02:01):
in such a humanistic way, and they're not human, and
they are way advanced than us. And when it comes
to studying the Bigfoot, the only reason that I got
into the Bigfoot world is because from studying the UFOs,
which leads you to the aliens, which leads you to
the abduction. Well, once you get into that, then you

(02:21):
get into the Bigfoot world and The thing about the
Bigfoot is they will talk to you. They will have
a relationship to me. This is all my research and findings.
Aliens are going to do what they want with you.
They don't care if you like it or not. They're
going to do what they want with you. They will
have their way with you. The Bigfoot, though, have respect.

(02:42):
They will talk with you. They will be curious about you.
They're a whole different thing. Do they hang out with
each other, Yes, they absolutely hang out with each other.
Do they like each other, I don't know, but they
hang out with each other. They definitely are around each other.
Because I've seen it myself. You know, I remember, Oh, gosh,

(03:03):
Gordon Stanley, Stanley, Gordon, Gordon, Paul. I can't think of
as Paul Gordon. Maybe I can't think of his name
right now. Up in Pennsylvania. He used to have these
books out and he would talk about when he would
interview people and they would talk about seeing the Bigfoot
in UFOs together, and you know, that was just oh cool,
here's something interesting to talk about. Well, I've seen it myself.

(03:27):
So they are together again, I don't know, I know
they hang out together. So it's like going into the
Star Wars bar and they're all hanging out having drinks together.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting what you say. I agree
with you. They have been here for a very long time,
and I believe this is why the system has deliberately
subjugated the whole subject matter, because they are and have
always tried to, you know, change history. Now in the beginning,
I've also been very interested in Genesis, the real version

(04:00):
of Genesis. And of course we have two versions, one scientific,
which is very cold, and the other which is religious,
which is held within faith, which is system we serve
loves because there's no scientific conviction of anything to prove
otherwise than faith. But I agree with you. I believe
that you know to some capacity the amazing theory that

(04:23):
we were created by God's geneticists, and of course we
are part of their creation. And going back into anstivilian culture,
most people say, oh no, that there couldn't have been gods.
We were created by God. I'm not disputing the God
force or the energy that we may permeate from going
beyond that level into quantum, but what I'm saying here

(04:45):
is that it's quite feasible to assume that we were
created by God's people know them as Ananaki or the archons,
and that something went wrong through their creation. Of course,
now what we're seeing is that we are bigin to
be able to create ourselves within the laboratory. So if
we created the new species, they would probably look up
on us as as the gods and what are we

(05:08):
We're warring warring gods. And when you go back into
the past and to be the ancient Acadian you know codices,
it talks about these warring, you know, brilliant gods that
had created humans. So I believe that with regards to
our understanding the system that we serve, most notably those

(05:30):
in governance, the military complex, and going even above and
beyond that, I think they are aware to a degree
of the reality, but there are pains to keep away
from the public. And this will also tie into that
inter dimensional hypothesis of sure, we've got them here and
the Sasquatches here, the document is here, the aliens are here.

(05:50):
But I believe that this phenomena is so far advanced
in terms of our scientific and spiritual understanding that they're
way ahead of us. But you know, it is interesting
with what you're saying. Connie, absolutely you know, if you
can tell me what bar they're hanging out in, we'll
go down and we'll have a drink and we'll give
them one of your chocolate bars and said, you know,

(06:11):
humor right.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I love it. We'll have to make sure we get
lots of pictures so we can have a new addition
going out, a limited series of artwork on there. It's
so interesting to get into and it's not it's not something.
This is another one of my theories that's more of
the human side of it. Is you don't really get

(06:34):
interested in it and you don't really have a desire
to learn about it at all unless there's a reason,
unless something has touched you along the way, you've seen
something or you've experienced something. And some people will go, no,
I'm just interested in it. None of that's happened. I've
never seen one, or I've never been you know, nothing's

(06:55):
ever happened. No, no, no, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna
dispute that. I'm going to say, you would never be
interested in it unless something has occurred. And when people don't,
they can't think of something. That's fine to me, that's
their subconscious doing everything it can to learn more because

(07:15):
it's inside there. Because when it comes to the ET
and what they do, it's very secretive. It is all
about being as secretive as possible. And I think way
more people have been taken and dealt with these situations,
but they have been able to close it off to

(07:37):
where you have absolutely no memory whatsoever. Accept subconscious your
soul is going. I know, I know, and so it's
trying to come out. But I think for the most
part people don't remember just because they close it off
so well. But some of us actually remember quite a bit,
and that's why we're so involved in it. But the

(08:00):
other people that say, no, I've never had anything happen,
but I'm interested. I think it's because their soul is going. Yeah,
it has because listen as you can, as you can
say too. This is not something you brag about that
you've been taking and that you believe in aliens and bigfoot.
It is not you don't get work, you don't people

(08:24):
don't want to bring you home to mom and dad.
There are so many things that people just think you're
absolutely nuts, so they don't want you talking to you.
I had a lady, she was a doctor, you know,
she was telling me all her little things sitting there
at lunch one one afternoon where I went in, I said,
at the bar part of the really nice restaurant, getting

(08:46):
some ribs. Gotta have some ribs, a little barbecue ribs,
little Kentucky thing there. Uh. And as I'm eating, this
lady next to me she starts talking. She was a
doctor from Yale, and she was going on and on
and on and on and on, and then I said,
we would you like to know what I do? And
so yeah, I just thought, would you like to know

(09:06):
what you know?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Can I?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, you know, you want to listen to a little
bit here, let me freak you out a little bit.
So I told her that as soon as I mentioned
what I was doing, she slowly asked for the check
from the lady at the bar, you know, to bring
the check over. She signed that check. She didn't want
to look at me again. And she let me know

(09:28):
though that I should do my research. And oh that
really burned me up, actually, because I have done my
research since day one, right, And so she took off.
She didn't want to say another word to me. She
thought it was absolutely nuts. This is a you know,
not my Harvard buddies are pretty open about it, so

(09:48):
forgive me yell people, but this was a yell person.
And before she got out that door, Philip, you'd be
proud of me. I walked over to her and I said,
hold on a second, you need to do your research.
And I pointed out to the window where you could
see the Rockies, you know, right there from the window,
beautiful scene. I said, you go out that way, you

(10:08):
go out there by yourself. Those rockies are full of
all those things that we research and we talk about.
You need to do your research. And I just felt
good that I got that out to her because at
one point she's going to know, even if even if
it's not until death and she's on the other side
and you get all the answers, that's when she's.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, well, I mean I have to agree with you, Conny,
because you know, you know, people put other people into categories,
and you know, like yourself, I've known you for a
long time. You're well respected research and you know what
you're talking about. You know, you have your full stew
ideas which just yeah, which is just as important as
anyone else's. And I think it could be damaging when

(10:47):
other people come in and they tread on your toes.
And I think that should be kind of like a
balance between one person and another to appreciate and respect
their version of reality how they see it, and kind
of accept the fact as long as they're being honest
and open, which you are and many other people are.
But you know what I'm talking about here. And as
for when you mentioned the Rockies, I mean, I know

(11:09):
you've done a lot of research into those remote areas,
into the national forests. What's interesting and fascinating, Connie, is
the fact that these areas are and tainted by the
disruption of human consciousness. And I've been looking into this,
and this is probably why the phenomena is able to
kind of like single you out, Like there's Connie, she's
going into the Rockies and let's get her. It's like,

(11:33):
you know, because if you think about it, when you
get built up areas within the geographical locations around the world,
a lot of built up areas, they are contaminated by
a lot of human consciousness.

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