April 10, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and author Oliver Williams discuss the story of alleged time traveler John Titor who claimed to have come from the year 2036 to the early 2000s, making online predictions of 9/11 and a major earthquake before they happened, and talked about the breakup of the United States in his future timeline.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back, George, Nori with you.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
In the early two thousands, Oliver Williams discovered the posts
of time traveler John Teeter that he left onlined and
was the first person to gather them into a single
place on the internet. He started following various people involved
with the story and kept track of the many of
those predictions, which we'll talk about. More than twenty years later,
(00:27):
it's still a topic of mystery and fascination.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oliver, welcome back, havev you ben my friend?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hey George, I've been okay, It's good to talk to you.
It has been a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
While, what a story, fourteen years? Can you believe it?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know what I don't. There was a period of
time where I almost wanted to go away, and in
the last five years and maybe last six months, things
are starting to pile up again. So you know, your
call was timely.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Perfect for people who don't know who John Teeter is
or was, tell us who he was.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
All right, here's a quick recap. So back in November
of well, actually it was before that Art Bell actually
interacted with John Teeter. Back in nineteen ninety eight. It
is believed that he sent two factses to art where
he laid out the basics of time travel and he
made some predictions. Then he showed up again in November
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of two thousand on the Internet at various chat rooms,
claiming to be a time traveler. He posted pictures of
his machine, he talked about how time travel worked, and
he answered any question that was given to him them
In about March of two thousand and one, he said
he was leaving, that his mission was done, and he
was leaving, and nobody really took it too seriously, just
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a guy on the internet apparently. And then a little
later some of the predictions he started making started coming true.
And the one that caught my attention was what he
said about cern and the creation of black holes and
how that was going to be the beginning of the
technology that allowed his time machine to be built. So
that's when I started paying attention and started following. And
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then more and more things started happening where people will
point back to what he said and say, hey, that
time travel guy talked about this. You know, since then,
a book has come out. You know, there's you know,
other things that come up about the story. I don't
know if you know. This guy named Jay Chiel is
making a documentary which is supposed to be in a
(02:27):
streaming service soon, and in that process I actually had
a chance to meet Larry Haber, who's the attorney that
apparently represents John's family now, and he claims that he's
got some documents and some other things that he wants
to send to me and some other folks that back
up more about what John had to say. Now, my
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opinion about all this has always been I wanted to
concentrate on the posts, So if anything was said or
done after the post, I kind of take it with
a grain of salt. But that's kind of where we
are today.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Later on in the program, Oliver, I may play a
tape of Larry Haber's interview with us from a long,
long time ago, where he talked about being the attorney
for the family. It's an incredible The story itself is
bizarre and incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It is? And you know, I find it strange how
it's weaved its way as a meme into our society.
You know, the website. I haven't been keeping up with
it too much, but I do get tons of emails
still from people that are fascinated by the story, and
they're pointing things out to me that I was completely
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unaware of. You know, a couple of examples. You know Marvel, Uh,
there's a what is it? The The Deadpool Guide to
super Villains, and John Teeter is one of the nicknames
for Kang the Conqueror.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I have a web alert.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Up for Google if anything comes across with John Teeter,
and I see headlines all the time that'd say stuff like, hey,
is such and such the John Teeter of fashion. So
it's now weaved its way into our subconscious as somebody
who tells the future and might be real. So I
really find it interesting that that's the level that's at now.
(04:16):
It's sort of creeped in and I don't think it's
going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
What compelled you to put together the website Johnteeter dot com.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Well, I noticed that John actually spoke on different forums.
There was like three or four of them, and he
said slightly different things that agreed with each other, but
he gave more detail on some than others. And there
was no one place where you could see all of
those posts. And this was well after the fact that
he was gone, so there was no controversy about what
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was said. And I basically took all those posts and
put them together, and then I started grabbing little things
in the news that started talking or supporting what he
was saying, because that's originally how the site got started.
And that was back in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We'll go through some of his predictions, some that have
come true, some that have not, and some were the
time just hasn't come up yet. But he was quite
how old do you think he was, Oliver when he
was starting to mention time travel?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
All right, so I'm going to pull this from memory,
and I can't give the exact post. I believe he
was in his late thirties, like thirty eight somewhere.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
In there, and he came back because he needed parts
from a computer.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, he was part of a military group and his
mission was to go back in time and get an obscure,
old portable computer that IBM made back in the early seventies.
And according to John you know where he came from,
needed this computer in order to communicate with large IBM
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mainframes that no longer work. So he went back to
nineteen seventy five to get this computer, and then something
happened in nineteen seventy five which caused him to come
to our time, and he claimed that the IBM computer
had some sort of a special feature to it that
allowed the future to be able to use it to
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communicate with the big mainframes. And he said that this
feature was not advertised and that nobody knew about it.
And after the fact, IBM engineers started coming out of
the woodwork and saying, Yeah, this guy is right. This
did happen. We did have this feature, and we never
talked about it. And that was actually one of the
things that a lot of people said, Oh, you know,
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this guy knows a lot more than he's talking about
and he might actually be a time traveler.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, you know, there's what's so bizarre about all this, Oliver,
that if time travel is indeed possible in the future,
and I believe somehow it's going to be, what are
the odds of coming back to this time period, It
could be pretty high.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, it's interesting that you say that, because again and
again this is outside the posts. But this is stuff
that I've been picking up from Larry and from other
folks that have been following this. It is believed now
that the reason John left these posts is that he
was trying to communicate to somebody may there. Maybe it
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was himself in the future, maybe it was another John
and they were both bouncing back and forth between times.
But the reason that the posts were there was to
communicate between the both of them so that if other
Johns showed up, they could read the posts and they
could know what they needed to do and where they
needed to go. And again it's it's my understanding, and
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this is outside of the post. I just want to
stress that apparently Larry has a piece to the fifty
one hundred that he's hanging on to and he's waiting
to do something with it, and that's all I know.
So my supposition would be someone's going to come back
looking for it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
At what point did you think this guy's not real?
Did that ever cross your mind?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know? Okay? To me, there are three possibilities here.
One is that he really is a time traveler. Two,
he's in collusion with a lot of people and they're
pretending to be a time traveler. Or three, whoever did this,
it's just a really lucky guesser. Now, if you go
back to my first supposition, which is he really is
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a time traveler. I think he might also be a liar.
So just because you're a time traveler doesn't mean that
you're telling us the truth about everything that's happening or
going to happen, or what you know about. And I
go back and forth between this guy might be a
time traveler or it's a group of people that have
been working together and they're they're very organized, very smart,
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and they're into organizations like CERN and IBM. They know
how to draw, they know about physics, they know and
be able to wheel all this stuff off off the cuffs.
So that's what I believe is going on.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
If it was a hoax, Oliver, I don't see any
monetary gain here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You know, well I don't either, And I haven't made
any money from this. The only thing that I know
that's okay, there was a.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Book cost you money?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Well, you know, yeah, it's always a pleasure talking to you. George.
There's a book out there that apparently was released by
Larry the Attorney, and I think you can still go
to eBay or Amazon at something like eight hundred bucks
a copy because it's out of print, and you know
Larry has a cafe press store, I believe where you
can still buy you know, John Teeter t shirts and
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oh it reminds me. Somebody pointed out there is a
new graphic of the time machine itself, the cutaway, a
high resolution photo that I've actually had a chance to
take a look at, which is available through Larry. So
if anybody's just in some more detail about that, you
can go take a look at it.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I think I interviewed Hayber back fourteen years ago when
I chatted to you on the program, and I.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Recall wasn't wasn't Does I recall that interview. Wasn't John's mom?
Wasn't she on the phone or wasn't she off the phone?
And Larry was talking you know through her?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yes, he had called her and was communicating with her
through us.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And do you remember that? You're right?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And I may play that clip next hour for us.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oliver Old but Gold.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Last forever, my friend. Let's talk about some of his predictions.
What did he say that was right? What did he
say that was wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
So a lot of his predictions were things that he
said over and over again that were specific. But I
don't think people really paid attention to it at the time.
The first one that most people point to was the
famous art Bell Facts that he sent in in nineteen
ninety eight, where he specifically talked about a building that
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was going to be gone in New York City. And
this is pre nine to eleven, pre Iraq War. This
is when the idea of time travel, multiple universes, you know,
creating black holes. All of this was science fiction. You know,
we see a lot of it in the news now
and we take it for granted, but back then, all
of this was science fiction. So John went on to
(11:23):
talk about how his time machine worked and made a
reference I believe to nine to eleven after that, and
I caught this one just within the last six months.
On February eight, two thousand and one, John made a
reference to an earthquake in Peru and it happened to
June twenty third of that year. It was an eight
point four It was the worst earthquake they ever had
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since I think nineteen seventy, and he directly referenced that earthquake.
He talked about the Super Bowl. Somebody asked him who
was going to win the Super Bowl that year, and
you know, John had three rules about what he was
gonna say. But one of the cryptic things he said was,
if you asked me if it rained in New York
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City that day and it rained, you know what, what
does that help you do anything? And basically people look
at that now and think, oh, it was New York
that lost the game. So he was referencing the Giants
losing the Super Bowl with the New York reference.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Maybe somebody wanted to make a little wager too, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
And that was one of his rules that he was
not going to divulge in the information that would allow
somebody to make money. That was one of his primary rules.
The other one was he wasn't gonna if you asked
him something specific about a person, he wasn't going to
answer that. And he said he was not going to
answer anything that allowed people to avoid death by probability,
So nothing about playing crashes or anything that you could
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avoid if if it would take your life. So those
were his three rules. You know, the other big predictions
he made, and this is just in general. He talked
about cern, He talked about the creations of mini black
holes that they powered his time machine. And one of
the significant things he said people would point out, well,
you know, according to Stephen Hawking, that's impossible because of
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the nature of radiation. And John said Hawking was going
to change his mind, and you know he did. Hawking
did change his mind about how black holes work, which
now means that what John was saying is possible, It
is theoretically possible now based on what he described. He
went on to talk about the IBM machine, he talked about,
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you know, little details. He talked about the Space Shuttle.
He talked about viruses being used to fight cancer. I mean,
he just went on and on and on with these
little things that people are now going back and looking
at taking a second look at, and you know, it
looks like he might have been exactly who he said
he was.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What did he say about a World War three?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
John's future was different than ours, and he claimed that
why two K happened for him where he came from,
Y two K happened, which led to a civil war
in the United States and then eventually a world war
in the late twenty fifteen twenty twenties. And obviously that
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has not happened for us. So our worldline acquired to
John is different than his. So after that war, he
said that the United States was recovering and that the
technology for time travel was evented in the early twenty
thirties and the breakthrough was it cerned and the unit
that he used was built by General Electric, and he
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went on to talk about how it worked, what the
details were, and one of the interesting ones is that
he said that it only had about a sixty mile
ar I'm sorry, a sixty year range. And the way
that he described how time travel worked, he said, the
farther you try to go with it, the more different
that world line is going to look than where you left.
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So if you were making if your trip was only
an you might not even recognize any changes, But if
you went sixty years, you would notice changes when you
got there. They said the usefulness of the time machine
was based on that, so that might be, you know,
one of the things that caused his war was that
it didn't happen for us. But the new idea that's
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been coming out, and John sort of led to this
a little bit in the posts, is that whatever he
did in nineteen seventy five changed our world mine and
stopped World War three and stopped all that stopped y
two K And that's why things are so different for
us is because we're actually living on a timeline that
was altered by a time traveler in the year nineteen
seventy five.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Did he ever say goodbye?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oliver?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
He did, you know, before he left, he said, Hey,
this is when I'm leaving. You know, I'm turning in
my vehicles. And as a matter of fact, that's apparently
one of the documents Larry has is all of John's
car insurance policy that he can believe that. So he said,
he got rid of his car, he canceled everything, and
he was leaving, and he said goodbye, and he left,
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and then that was it. Nobody's come forward saying it's him.
Nobody has come on saying anything, and he just was gone.
In March of two thousand and.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
One, apparently living in Florida.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, Larry is here. Actually I'm in Florida. And that
was one of the things that drew me to this,
because a lot of the places John talked about, you know,
I lived near, So I went out and checked some
of these places out. But the whole thing apparently happened
with John here living with his parents and his young
self during that period nearly two thousands.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He talked about the end of the irs. He may
have been right about that.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yep, there were a lot of things that were different.
He said that the United States was broken into five
major sections, that the federal government was basically gone, and
things were much more decentralized. States had a lot more
right now, he said. And he described his future as
basically being high technology but a day on the farm.
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So there was high speed rail, but at the same time,
when you were at your home you used a horse.
There was high speed internet that was much better. But
at the same time, you know, instead of watching videos
on the internet, you would go down to the town
square and have a square dance. You know. That was
kind of the world he described that he lived in.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
What does your gut tell you, Oliver, of those three possibilities,
and there are two that you looked at the most.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
What do you think Teeter was?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I if he was a real time traveler, he had
an agenda, So I don't think I think in a
way he was manipulating us or somebody or doing something.
And as a matter of fact, as proof of this,
there is another website up I have nothing to do
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with it. It is called the John Teeter Foundation. It
has been up for something like twenty years, and it's
a single page that looks like some sort of code
that's been up there for twenty years. I have no
idea what it is. Larry has no idea what it is.
I mean, I believe he runs the pipe. He has
no idea what it means. So if John was a
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time traveler, I believe he had an agenda, and I
believe that he might not have been one hundred percent truthful.
But then I go back and forth between there's a
group of people out there that did this. I don't
know if you want to call it for fund like
scientists Ancern, guys at IBM, some physicists that somehow they
got together and did this as a prank and maybe
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it just got out of hand, and you know, none
of them have come forward.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back, George, Nori with you.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
In the early two thousands, Oliver Williams discovered the posts
of time traveler John Teeter that he left onlined and
was the first person to gather them into a single
place on the internet. He started following various people involved
with the story and kept track of the many of
those predictions, which we'll talk about. More than twenty years later,
(00:27):
it's still a topic of mystery and fascination.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oliver, welcome back, havev you ben my friend?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hey George, I've been okay, It's good to talk to you.
It has been a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
While, what a story, fourteen years? Can you believe it?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know what I don't. There was a period of
time where I almost wanted to go away, and in
the last five years and maybe last six months, things
are starting to pile up again. So you know, your
call was timely.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Perfect for people who don't know who John Teeter is
or was, tell us who he was.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
All right, here's a quick recap. So back in November
of well, actually it was before that Art Bell actually
interacted with John Teeter. Back in nineteen ninety eight. It
is believed that he sent two factses to art where
he laid out the basics of time travel and he
made some predictions. Then he showed up again in November
(01:21):
of two thousand on the Internet at various chat rooms,
claiming to be a time traveler. He posted pictures of
his machine, he talked about how time travel worked, and
he answered any question that was given to him them
In about March of two thousand and one, he said
he was leaving, that his mission was done, and he
was leaving, and nobody really took it too seriously, just
(01:44):
a guy on the internet apparently. And then a little
later some of the predictions he started making started coming true.
And the one that caught my attention was what he
said about cern and the creation of black holes and
how that was going to be the beginning of the
technology that allowed his time machine to be built. So
that's when I started paying attention and started following. And
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then more and more things started happening where people will
point back to what he said and say, hey, that
time travel guy talked about this. You know, since then,
a book has come out. You know, there's you know,
other things that come up about the story. I don't
know if you know. This guy named Jay Chiel is
making a documentary which is supposed to be in a
(02:27):
streaming service soon, and in that process I actually had
a chance to meet Larry Haber, who's the attorney that
apparently represents John's family now, and he claims that he's
got some documents and some other things that he wants
to send to me and some other folks that back
up more about what John had to say. Now, my
(02:48):
opinion about all this has always been I wanted to
concentrate on the posts, So if anything was said or
done after the post, I kind of take it with
a grain of salt. But that's kind of where we
are today.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Later on in the program, Oliver, I may play a
tape of Larry Haber's interview with us from a long,
long time ago, where he talked about being the attorney
for the family. It's an incredible The story itself is
bizarre and incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It is? And you know, I find it strange how
it's weaved its way as a meme into our society.
You know, the website. I haven't been keeping up with
it too much, but I do get tons of emails
still from people that are fascinated by the story, and
they're pointing things out to me that I was completely
(03:37):
unaware of. You know, a couple of examples. You know Marvel, Uh,
there's a what is it? The The Deadpool Guide to
super Villains, and John Teeter is one of the nicknames
for Kang the Conqueror.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I have a web alert.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Up for Google if anything comes across with John Teeter,
and I see headlines all the time that'd say stuff like, hey,
is such and such the John Teeter of fashion. So
it's now weaved its way into our subconscious as somebody
who tells the future and might be real. So I
really find it interesting that that's the level that's at now.
(04:16):
It's sort of creeped in and I don't think it's
going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
What compelled you to put together the website Johnteeter dot com.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Well, I noticed that John actually spoke on different forums.
There was like three or four of them, and he
said slightly different things that agreed with each other, but
he gave more detail on some than others. And there
was no one place where you could see all of
those posts. And this was well after the fact that
he was gone, so there was no controversy about what
(04:44):
was said. And I basically took all those posts and
put them together, and then I started grabbing little things
in the news that started talking or supporting what he
was saying, because that's originally how the site got started.
And that was back in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We'll go through some of his predictions, some that have
come true, some that have not, and some were the
time just hasn't come up yet. But he was quite
how old do you think he was, Oliver when he
was starting to mention time travel?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
All right, so I'm going to pull this from memory,
and I can't give the exact post. I believe he
was in his late thirties, like thirty eight somewhere.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
In there, and he came back because he needed parts
from a computer.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, he was part of a military group and his
mission was to go back in time and get an obscure,
old portable computer that IBM made back in the early seventies.
And according to John you know where he came from,
needed this computer in order to communicate with large IBM
(05:50):
mainframes that no longer work. So he went back to
nineteen seventy five to get this computer, and then something
happened in nineteen seventy five which caused him to come
to our time, and he claimed that the IBM computer
had some sort of a special feature to it that
allowed the future to be able to use it to
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communicate with the big mainframes. And he said that this
feature was not advertised and that nobody knew about it.
And after the fact, IBM engineers started coming out of
the woodwork and saying, Yeah, this guy is right. This
did happen. We did have this feature, and we never
talked about it. And that was actually one of the
things that a lot of people said, Oh, you know,
(06:32):
this guy knows a lot more than he's talking about
and he might actually be a time traveler.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, you know, there's what's so bizarre about all this, Oliver,
that if time travel is indeed possible in the future,
and I believe somehow it's going to be, what are
the odds of coming back to this time period, It
could be pretty high.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, it's interesting that you say that, because again and
again this is outside the posts. But this is stuff
that I've been picking up from Larry and from other
folks that have been following this. It is believed now
that the reason John left these posts is that he
was trying to communicate to somebody may there. Maybe it
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was himself in the future, maybe it was another John
and they were both bouncing back and forth between times.
But the reason that the posts were there was to
communicate between the both of them so that if other
Johns showed up, they could read the posts and they
could know what they needed to do and where they
needed to go. And again it's it's my understanding, and
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this is outside of the post. I just want to
stress that apparently Larry has a piece to the fifty
one hundred that he's hanging on to and he's waiting
to do something with it, and that's all I know.
So my supposition would be someone's going to come back
looking for it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
At what point did you think this guy's not real?
Did that ever cross your mind?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know? Okay? To me, there are three possibilities here.
One is that he really is a time traveler. Two,
he's in collusion with a lot of people and they're
pretending to be a time traveler. Or three, whoever did this,
it's just a really lucky guesser. Now, if you go
back to my first supposition, which is he really is
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a time traveler. I think he might also be a liar.
So just because you're a time traveler doesn't mean that
you're telling us the truth about everything that's happening or
going to happen, or what you know about. And I
go back and forth between this guy might be a
time traveler or it's a group of people that have
been working together and they're they're very organized, very smart,
(08:42):
and they're into organizations like CERN and IBM. They know
how to draw, they know about physics, they know and
be able to wheel all this stuff off off the cuffs.
So that's what I believe is going on.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
If it was a hoax, Oliver, I don't see any
monetary gain here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You know, well I don't either, And I haven't made
any money from this. The only thing that I know
that's okay, there was a.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Book cost you money?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Well, you know, yeah, it's always a pleasure talking to you. George.
There's a book out there that apparently was released by
Larry the Attorney, and I think you can still go
to eBay or Amazon at something like eight hundred bucks
a copy because it's out of print, and you know
Larry has a cafe press store, I believe where you
can still buy you know, John Teeter t shirts and
(09:32):
oh it reminds me. Somebody pointed out there is a
new graphic of the time machine itself, the cutaway, a
high resolution photo that I've actually had a chance to
take a look at, which is available through Larry. So
if anybody's just in some more detail about that, you
can go take a look at it.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I think I interviewed Hayber back fourteen years ago when
I chatted to you on the program, and I.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Recall wasn't wasn't Does I recall that interview. Wasn't John's mom?
Wasn't she on the phone or wasn't she off the phone?
And Larry was talking you know through her?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yes, he had called her and was communicating with her
through us.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And do you remember that? You're right?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And I may play that clip next hour for us.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oliver Old but Gold.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Last forever, my friend. Let's talk about some of his predictions.
What did he say that was right? What did he
say that was wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
So a lot of his predictions were things that he
said over and over again that were specific. But I
don't think people really paid attention to it at the time.
The first one that most people point to was the
famous art Bell Facts that he sent in in nineteen
ninety eight, where he specifically talked about a building that
(11:01):
was going to be gone in New York City. And
this is pre nine to eleven, pre Iraq War. This
is when the idea of time travel, multiple universes, you know,
creating black holes. All of this was science fiction. You know,
we see a lot of it in the news now
and we take it for granted, but back then, all
of this was science fiction. So John went on to
(11:23):
talk about how his time machine worked and made a
reference I believe to nine to eleven after that, and
I caught this one just within the last six months.
On February eight, two thousand and one, John made a
reference to an earthquake in Peru and it happened to
June twenty third of that year. It was an eight
point four It was the worst earthquake they ever had
(11:46):
since I think nineteen seventy, and he directly referenced that earthquake.
He talked about the Super Bowl. Somebody asked him who
was going to win the Super Bowl that year, and
you know, John had three rules about what he was
gonna say. But one of the cryptic things he said was,
if you asked me if it rained in New York
(12:06):
City that day and it rained, you know what, what
does that help you do anything? And basically people look
at that now and think, oh, it was New York
that lost the game. So he was referencing the Giants
losing the Super Bowl with the New York reference.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Maybe somebody wanted to make a little wager too, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
And that was one of his rules that he was
not going to divulge in the information that would allow
somebody to make money. That was one of his primary rules.
The other one was he wasn't gonna if you asked
him something specific about a person, he wasn't going to
answer that. And he said he was not going to
answer anything that allowed people to avoid death by probability,
So nothing about playing crashes or anything that you could
(12:46):
avoid if if it would take your life. So those
were his three rules. You know, the other big predictions
he made, and this is just in general. He talked
about cern, He talked about the creations of mini black
holes that they powered his time machine. And one of
the significant things he said people would point out, well,
you know, according to Stephen Hawking, that's impossible because of
(13:07):
the nature of radiation. And John said Hawking was going
to change his mind, and you know he did. Hawking
did change his mind about how black holes work, which
now means that what John was saying is possible, It
is theoretically possible now based on what he described. He
went on to talk about the IBM machine, he talked about,
(13:30):
you know, little details. He talked about the Space Shuttle.
He talked about viruses being used to fight cancer. I mean,
he just went on and on and on with these
little things that people are now going back and looking
at taking a second look at, and you know, it
looks like he might have been exactly who he said
he was.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What did he say about a World War three?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
John's future was different than ours, and he claimed that
why two K happened for him where he came from,
Y two K happened, which led to a civil war
in the United States and then eventually a world war
in the late twenty fifteen twenty twenties. And obviously that
(14:14):
has not happened for us. So our worldline acquired to
John is different than his. So after that war, he
said that the United States was recovering and that the
technology for time travel was evented in the early twenty
thirties and the breakthrough was it cerned and the unit
that he used was built by General Electric, and he
(14:36):
went on to talk about how it worked, what the
details were, and one of the interesting ones is that
he said that it only had about a sixty mile
ar I'm sorry, a sixty year range. And the way
that he described how time travel worked, he said, the
farther you try to go with it, the more different
that world line is going to look than where you left.
(14:57):
So if you were making if your trip was only
an you might not even recognize any changes, But if
you went sixty years, you would notice changes when you
got there. They said the usefulness of the time machine
was based on that, so that might be, you know,
one of the things that caused his war was that
it didn't happen for us. But the new idea that's
(15:21):
been coming out, and John sort of led to this
a little bit in the posts, is that whatever he
did in nineteen seventy five changed our world mine and
stopped World War three and stopped all that stopped y
two K And that's why things are so different for
us is because we're actually living on a timeline that
was altered by a time traveler in the year nineteen
seventy five.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Did he ever say goodbye?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oliver?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
He did, you know, before he left, he said, Hey,
this is when I'm leaving. You know, I'm turning in
my vehicles. And as a matter of fact, that's apparently
one of the documents Larry has is all of John's
car insurance policy that he can believe that. So he said,
he got rid of his car, he canceled everything, and
he was leaving, and he said goodbye, and he left,
(16:06):
and then that was it. Nobody's come forward saying it's him.
Nobody has come on saying anything, and he just was gone.
In March of two thousand and.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
One, apparently living in Florida.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, Larry is here. Actually I'm in Florida. And that
was one of the things that drew me to this,
because a lot of the places John talked about, you know,
I lived near, So I went out and checked some
of these places out. But the whole thing apparently happened
with John here living with his parents and his young
self during that period nearly two thousands.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He talked about the end of the irs. He may
have been right about that.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yep, there were a lot of things that were different.
He said that the United States was broken into five
major sections, that the federal government was basically gone, and
things were much more decentralized. States had a lot more
right now, he said. And he described his future as
basically being high technology but a day on the farm.
(17:09):
So there was high speed rail, but at the same time,
when you were at your home you used a horse.
There was high speed internet that was much better. But
at the same time, you know, instead of watching videos
on the internet, you would go down to the town
square and have a square dance. You know. That was
kind of the world he described that he lived in.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
What does your gut tell you, Oliver, of those three possibilities,
and there are two that you looked at the most.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
What do you think Teeter was?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I if he was a real time traveler, he had
an agenda, So I don't think I think in a
way he was manipulating us or somebody or doing something.
And as a matter of fact, as proof of this,
there is another website up I have nothing to do
(18:00):
with it. It is called the John Teeter Foundation. It
has been up for something like twenty years, and it's
a single page that looks like some sort of code
that's been up there for twenty years. I have no
idea what it is. Larry has no idea what it is.
I mean, I believe he runs the pipe. He has
no idea what it means. So if John was a
(18:20):
time traveler, I believe he had an agenda, and I
believe that he might not have been one hundred percent truthful.
But then I go back and forth between there's a
group of people out there that did this. I don't
know if you want to call it for fund like
scientists Ancern, guys at IBM, some physicists that somehow they
got together and did this as a prank and maybe
(18:43):
it just got out of hand, and you know, none
of them have come forward.
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