September 16, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and author Sandra Champlain explore the end of life phenomenon where our consciousness survives death, shared death experiences where a person participates in the passing of a soul into the next life, and the importance of paying attention to the world to receive signs from our dead loved ones.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Sandra Champlain with us the author of the international bestseller
We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after death.
She's also the host of Shades of the Afterlife on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
Through her work, Sandra combines a grounded approach with a
(00:26):
deep sense of compassion, offering comfort insights to those seeking
to understand the nature of consciousness, grief, and the ongoing
connection with loved ones who reside in the afterlife. We
Don't Die is still that great book, Sandra, welcome back.
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Thanks George, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
By the way, I've got to congratulate you on many things,
but one is your enthusiasm for helping people understand the
afterlife is second to none. You do a great job.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh, thanks so much, George.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Grief is by far the most painful thing we humans
go through in our own lives.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Watching the news, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And if I can share what I've learned, what I've
investigated and let people know give them help through grief, obviously,
but also let people know that we do go on.
Our loved ones are still a part of our lives.
We will see them again, and we don't die. That's
the biggest gift that I've gotten, and all I want
to do is share it. So I'll keep up that
(01:30):
enthusiasm for as long as I'm on this planet and even.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
After perfect How did you get to this point? Did
anything happen?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Way back it was the mid nineties.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I went through a terrible fear of dying, came out
of the blue, couldn't rest at night without thinking, oh
my gosh, what happens next. I was skeptical about it all.
I was raised that you have to see it to
believe it. So I wasn't religious. I wasn't involved in any.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
New Age things, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I'd laugh at people that believe in angels and spirit
guides and things. But the fear of death just took
me over, and so very secretly I went on an investigation.
Is there things I can believe in? Starting with faith.
Grew up Catholic, even though I didn't have that faith.
Most religions believe in some sort of an afterlife. That
(02:20):
didn't quench my fear, George. But I went on to
start studying these supernatural things psychic abilities, mediumship, EVPs, remote
viewing the whole world, and then getting into studying things
like reincarnation and near death experiences, deathbed visions, and then
having some of my own psychic mediumistic experiences for myself
(02:43):
rested my mind that we go on.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But I was a chicken.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I didn't want to share it with people because you know,
I thought my family and friends would cast me aside,
that I'd turn into one of these New Age lunatics.
I kept my mouth shut. But it fast forward to
twenty ten when my dear, fabulous father passed away and
I was with him every step of the way. He
passed of cancer. It was awful, and I learned things
(03:10):
about grief, the grieving process, why it hurts so bad,
why families fight. This whole world opened up to me,
and it healed me. You know, the pain was still there,
but I got an understanding. I tied it in with
what I learned about the afterlife, and George, I just
felt it was a moral responsibility to share with others.
And when I got the guts to start opening my mouth.
(03:33):
I put an audio out on YouTube, how to Survive Grief,
and it went semi viral. People started responding not only
did it help, he's their pain, but George, people told
me they chose not to end their life because of
my words. It was like I knew exactly how they
were feeling. So I had to keep sharing. And then,
you know, call it God or the universe or whatever
(03:55):
power gave it to me, wonderful things started happening. I
wrote my book, I got introduced to you and producer
Tom there at Coast to Coast, And the more I learn,
all I want to do is share and it makes
such a difference. So we have got quite a community
now of followers, believers, and to give people hope and comfort.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's what I'm all about, Sandra.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Initially, were you afraid of dying for yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah? For myself, George, Oh my gosh. I would go
to bed at night thinking if this is my last night?
Do I go on?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And oh my good were you? Were you ill or
sick or anything like?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
When I was a teenager, I volunteered in a nursing
home and people died, and so maybe it was a
subconscious thing, you know what happens, but nothing happened to me.
So I think now thirty years later, looking back, everything
had to happen exactly the way it did to kind
of line me up to be where I am now.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But I'm not afraid.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I don't want to go, and I don't want any
pain involved, of course, but I do have that comfort
that I get to see my loved ones again, even my.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Pets are there and they still support me. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
In the subtitle of your book, We Don't Die, a
skeptics Discovery of Life after Death, were you the skeptic?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Oh, I was an angry, miserable skeptic. It's like this
big ego was on me that I just knew better.
And I don't know where that came from. I don't
blame my parents. They're good people, but they really raised
us that you have to see it to believe it.
And we had a local psychic that lived in our
town when we grew up, and George, she predicted the
(05:33):
Maid of the Mist of the Niagara Falls boat would
capsize filled with a boat filled with death children. Well
that never happened, and that was just like another thing
where kids, this stuff isn't real.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You know, this whole world isn't real.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So I had this bias, just knowing somewhere that none
of this was real, and it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Was my ego, I know it was.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And even we'd hear about near death ex experiences and
the light that people see, and I didn't do any
studies back then, and I just thought, yeah, that's just
a part of our brain shutting down. But now science
and medicine has proven that is not the case. You know,
some of them aren't willing to say what it is,
but there's no way with people being able to observe
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things from out of their body and have these verifiable
bits of information, none of that's true. But I'm happy
to say that, you know, I was that egotistic gal
and now I'm pretty humble.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Good.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Are you beginning to hear more and more story, Sandra
of shared death experiences?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I am, and I'm fascinated by it because we hear
about near death experiences floating above the body and going
to the light and seeing loved ones and things like that.
But the term shared death experience wasn't familiar to me
up until a couple years ago. Doctor Raymond Moody has
(07:01):
studied quite a bit of it. Lots of people know
our friend doctor Raymond Moody, He's written the book Proof
of Life After Life about shared death experiences. And then
also my friend William Peters who runs shared Crossing. He
wrote a book called At Heaven's Door. And these shared
death experiences, they happen basically basically two different ways. A
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lot of people get a sense when a loved one dies.
Now they can be somewhere else in the world and
the loved one visits them in dreams. They just have
this knowing that they're still alive, or they know that
exact moment they pass They wake up in the middle
of the night, they look at their clock it is
eleven eleven, and then they find out the next day
(07:46):
that they're loved one passed at eleven eleven. So sixty
some odd percent of these shared death experiences are not
by the person's bedside, they're somewhere away from them. But
the other third there are people by the bedside of
their loved one who actually participate in their loved ones passing.
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And it's something that I'd never get sick of hearing
these stories. People with their loved one, and they can
see a mist rising from them and going into the
corner of the room, and we hear in hospice they
open the window for the soul to move out, you know,
these sort of things. But even doctors are seeing this
(08:30):
golden glow, this mist that can happen. And then sometimes
the loved one can actually feel themselves lifting out of
the body, looking down upon the body and the scene
going on. Almost from the loved one's perspective, they can
take those steps with them feeling that they're going to
the light, George, But then, of course they only get
(08:53):
so far. They also can often see the loved ones
that come to greet the dying person, and we hear
of these deathbed visitations and oftentimes people are talking to
their loved one. We can't see them, but in a
shared death experience, people see those loved ones in the room,
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and I think it is so special, And one of
the hopes that I have is that people want to
investigate this more and want to learn how they can
kind of put themselves into a mode where this may happen.
With all the studies that go on, George, it is
up to the person passing whether they wish to share
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this with another person, which I find interesting that they
have a conductor, whether you want to call it an
angel or god or a light or something like that,
that also participates in this. But wouldn't that be comforting?
It's comforting. I know when we pass away, our loved
ones are there to greet us. But it's so painful
(09:58):
for our loved ones who are witnessing this and they
don't know what's happening. And if we could just kind
of tap in or piggyback on that dying experience and
see the white light, maybe hear the music, maybe see
the loved ones showing up, Gosh, it would do so
much for the living to know that the dying really
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does go on.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
What generates the shared experience? Andra, Is it the dying
doing something to us or is it the living? And
what is it?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Well, it could be a combination of all of the above.
I simplify this because we live in an age of technology, George.
We're so busy with what's going on on our phone
and the text messages and all that, and then we're
always thinking about the future or the past, and there's
worries and concerns. We're not present. There is a world
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within a world going on right now, right here with
all of us. We can't see it the afterlife, the hereafter.
I think it's just vibrating at a different frequency. And
we know by mediumship and some meditation and things that
when we can slow down, we can observe, have these
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visitations or communicate with loved ones on like a mediumistic level,
a soul full level. So these could be going on
all the time. We're just so busy that we're not
aware of them. Most of the people, George, that have
these shared death experiences practice some sort of meditation, being
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present in their life, yoga, you know, those kind of
things to slow down the busy mind. So to me,
that's the access way. If we can start the practice
of this long before somebody gets ill, not only is
it good for peace of mind and new ideas and
so many other things, but if we get into that
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practice of being present, and then while we're by, say,
the bedside of our loved one, we have no undelivered communication,
you know, we let go of the baggage of the past.
We talk, we forgive and all that stuff. We're present
with them and we're open, and we've practiced now being
in that present moment, and we also have to engage
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our creative mode. We call it imagination, but imagination makes
us think that we're making something up. Anyone who's taken
a medium class or practicing mediums know that it occurs
like our imagination. But when you start verbalizing what it
is you're seeing or hearing or experiencing, those are accurate
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things happening or details evidence about somebody in the afterlife.
So to trust that imagination, that creative center that we
have that we're not making this up. This is real,
and sometimes we just go with the flow, and the
more we can envision, the more things come to us.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You had mentioned that these aren't limited by space and distance.
Why is that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I don't think there is any space or distance in
the other side.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think there's just this.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
A feeling of now that consciousness is all connected. It
is hard to put my head around how it all happens.
I've done lots of studies and experiments in remote viewing
and have been able to tell what's on somebody's dining
room table on the opposite side of the country.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
How would I know that? How would I know things
about a deceased loved one.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Somehow we are all connected, and maybe we'll figure it
out once we cross over. But right now we can
just trust, so we can talk to our loved ones.
We can feel if my dad say, it was on
the other side of the earth and passed away, and
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all of a sudden, I have a dream and wake up.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And he's there.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
There's something about being a soul or spirit in the afterlife.
We can be at more than one place at a
time where just a thought thought is our main communication.
And it seems like magic and miracles to us here
on earth. But we're going to find out soon enough
that this is just normal. That we can be wherever
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we want to be our contentness, can we?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Now what does it mean? Sandro If for some reason
somebody never has a shared death experience with a loved
one or a friend.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That may happen.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
In fact, when my dad passed, I was in the moment.
He was suffering from a lot of pain, passed away
siblings there crying. There was no shared death experience there.
And in fact, if somebody would say, you know, oh,
I saw the light and I saw his soul leave
the body, there's so much anger that can be tied
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up with grief that I might not.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Have accepted it.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I really might not have The thing is it's an
opening for us to explore. Also, I'm okay that I
haven't had a shared death experience with him, but it's
opened my eyes to what are ways that we can
still connect with our loved one. So what if we're
not witnessing exactly what happens in that final moment, we've
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got eternity together. I'm blessed that I still have a
mom here on this planet who's going to turn eighty
four years old soon, and so by living my life,
being present with her, communicating everything that needs to be said,
no hidden agendas anything like that.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is it possible I have one when she passes? Sure
it is.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I mean she may pass in her sleep. I mean
I may go first. You never know how life is
going to go. But I think it's important to know
that this is possible. Leaves us open to so many
other things that are available to us.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Sandra.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
If you have a loved one or a friend who
has passed on, but they never come back basically or
you never get in touch with them.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Why, well, George, could it be that they're not getting
in touch with us, or could it be that we
are not in the mode to know that.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
They're around good point?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
So it's easy to blame our loved ones that we
are not getting signs from them. There could be signs
all around and we just brush them off to their
that's our imagination.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And you take a story.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Of a grandmother giving a kid a Christmas gift. You know,
grandma gets all excited, she wraps it up, she gives
the gift, but she never gets a thank you or
never gets acknowledged while those gifts stop coming. And not
that our loved ones don't still love us, but when
they're doing everything they can to say hey, we're still here,
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and in very subtle ways sometimes and we dismiss them
as our imagination, they might say, well, you know, we're
going to be together again in the blink of an
eye because there's no time, they say, in the afterlife.
So maybe they stop trying. Their love is always there,
And I see on wonderful medium readings. We do a
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free Sunday gathering inspirational service every single Sunday, and there's
a medium demonstration included, and the loved ones from people's
loved ones from all over the world come through with
evidence that I feel in witness it every week that
there's still part of our lives. They witness what's going on.
They see what's going on. They were there when this
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or that happened. And so we need to make ourselves,
not make ourselves, but just be open that it's real
that our loved ones can come through. You can ask
for a sign, you can ask for a certain thing,
but then it's up to us to pay attention. And
our loved ones come through in different ways. I think
kids and young people that pass now who are really
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big in technology. There's text messages coming through from loved ones.
There's emails that still come through from their email account
even though they're not touching it. You know, there's that
sort of thing that happens. And of course, my eighty
some old year old grandmother who passed, you know, she
might not go for technology, but George, just before I
fall asleep at night, sometimes Grammy's face is right there
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and just that's feeling of love. My grandfat My dad
does this as well. Sometimes there's a little slide show
in my mind of memories. These are subtle ways that
they're coming through that it's very easy to just brush
off that this is our imagination and you know, just
didn't this isn't really them, But they'll come through in
the most subtle ways. We just need to be open
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to it.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Sandra Champlain with us the author of the international bestseller
We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after death.
She's also the host of Shades of the Afterlife on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
Through her work, Sandra combines a grounded approach with a
(00:26):
deep sense of compassion, offering comfort insights to those seeking
to understand the nature of consciousness, grief, and the ongoing
connection with loved ones who reside in the afterlife. We
Don't Die is still that great book, Sandra, welcome back.
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Thanks George, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
By the way, I've got to congratulate you on many things,
but one is your enthusiasm for helping people understand the
afterlife is second to none. You do a great job.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh, thanks so much, George.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Grief is by far the most painful thing we humans
go through in our own lives.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Watching the news, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And if I can share what I've learned, what I've
investigated and let people know give them help through grief, obviously,
but also let people know that we do go on.
Our loved ones are still a part of our lives.
We will see them again, and we don't die. That's
the biggest gift that I've gotten, and all I want
to do is share it. So I'll keep up that
(01:30):
enthusiasm for as long as I'm on this planet and even.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
After perfect How did you get to this point? Did
anything happen?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Way back it was the mid nineties.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I went through a terrible fear of dying, came out
of the blue, couldn't rest at night without thinking, oh
my gosh, what happens next. I was skeptical about it all.
I was raised that you have to see it to
believe it. So I wasn't religious. I wasn't involved in any.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
New Age things, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I'd laugh at people that believe in angels and spirit
guides and things. But the fear of death just took
me over, and so very secretly I went on an investigation.
Is there things I can believe in? Starting with faith.
Grew up Catholic, even though I didn't have that faith.
Most religions believe in some sort of an afterlife. That
(02:20):
didn't quench my fear, George. But I went on to
start studying these supernatural things psychic abilities, mediumship, EVPs, remote
viewing the whole world, and then getting into studying things
like reincarnation and near death experiences, deathbed visions, and then
having some of my own psychic mediumistic experiences for myself
(02:43):
rested my mind that we go on.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But I was a chicken.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I didn't want to share it with people because you know,
I thought my family and friends would cast me aside,
that I'd turn into one of these New Age lunatics.
I kept my mouth shut. But it fast forward to
twenty ten when my dear, fabulous father passed away and
I was with him every step of the way. He
passed of cancer. It was awful, and I learned things
(03:10):
about grief, the grieving process, why it hurts so bad,
why families fight. This whole world opened up to me,
and it healed me. You know, the pain was still there,
but I got an understanding. I tied it in with
what I learned about the afterlife, and George, I just
felt it was a moral responsibility to share with others.
And when I got the guts to start opening my mouth.
(03:33):
I put an audio out on YouTube, how to Survive Grief,
and it went semi viral. People started responding not only
did it help, he's their pain, but George, people told
me they chose not to end their life because of
my words. It was like I knew exactly how they
were feeling. So I had to keep sharing. And then,
you know, call it God or the universe or whatever
(03:55):
power gave it to me, wonderful things started happening. I
wrote my book, I got introduced to you and producer
Tom there at Coast to Coast, And the more I learn,
all I want to do is share and it makes
such a difference. So we have got quite a community
now of followers, believers, and to give people hope and comfort.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's what I'm all about, Sandra.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Initially, were you afraid of dying for yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah? For myself, George, Oh my gosh. I would go
to bed at night thinking if this is my last night?
Do I go on?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And oh my good were you? Were you ill or
sick or anything like?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
When I was a teenager, I volunteered in a nursing
home and people died, and so maybe it was a
subconscious thing, you know what happens, but nothing happened to me.
So I think now thirty years later, looking back, everything
had to happen exactly the way it did to kind
of line me up to be where I am now.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But I'm not afraid.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I don't want to go, and I don't want any
pain involved, of course, but I do have that comfort
that I get to see my loved ones again, even my.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Pets are there and they still support me. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
In the subtitle of your book, We Don't Die, a
skeptics Discovery of Life after Death, were you the skeptic?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Oh, I was an angry, miserable skeptic. It's like this
big ego was on me that I just knew better.
And I don't know where that came from. I don't
blame my parents. They're good people, but they really raised
us that you have to see it to believe it.
And we had a local psychic that lived in our
town when we grew up, and George, she predicted the
(05:33):
Maid of the Mist of the Niagara Falls boat would
capsize filled with a boat filled with death children. Well
that never happened, and that was just like another thing
where kids, this stuff isn't real.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You know, this whole world isn't real.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So I had this bias, just knowing somewhere that none
of this was real, and it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Was my ego, I know it was.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And even we'd hear about near death ex experiences and
the light that people see, and I didn't do any
studies back then, and I just thought, yeah, that's just
a part of our brain shutting down. But now science
and medicine has proven that is not the case. You know,
some of them aren't willing to say what it is,
but there's no way with people being able to observe
(06:19):
things from out of their body and have these verifiable
bits of information, none of that's true. But I'm happy
to say that, you know, I was that egotistic gal
and now I'm pretty humble.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Good.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Are you beginning to hear more and more story, Sandra
of shared death experiences?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I am, and I'm fascinated by it because we hear
about near death experiences floating above the body and going
to the light and seeing loved ones and things like that.
But the term shared death experience wasn't familiar to me
up until a couple years ago. Doctor Raymond Moody has
(07:01):
studied quite a bit of it. Lots of people know
our friend doctor Raymond Moody, He's written the book Proof
of Life After Life about shared death experiences. And then
also my friend William Peters who runs shared Crossing. He
wrote a book called At Heaven's Door. And these shared
death experiences, they happen basically basically two different ways. A
(07:24):
lot of people get a sense when a loved one dies.
Now they can be somewhere else in the world and
the loved one visits them in dreams. They just have
this knowing that they're still alive, or they know that
exact moment they pass They wake up in the middle
of the night, they look at their clock it is
eleven eleven, and then they find out the next day
(07:46):
that they're loved one passed at eleven eleven. So sixty
some odd percent of these shared death experiences are not
by the person's bedside, they're somewhere away from them. But
the other third there are people by the bedside of
their loved one who actually participate in their loved ones passing.
(08:10):
And it's something that I'd never get sick of hearing
these stories. People with their loved one, and they can
see a mist rising from them and going into the
corner of the room, and we hear in hospice they
open the window for the soul to move out, you know,
these sort of things. But even doctors are seeing this
(08:30):
golden glow, this mist that can happen. And then sometimes
the loved one can actually feel themselves lifting out of
the body, looking down upon the body and the scene
going on. Almost from the loved one's perspective, they can
take those steps with them feeling that they're going to
the light, George, But then, of course they only get
(08:53):
so far. They also can often see the loved ones
that come to greet the dying person, and we hear
of these deathbed visitations and oftentimes people are talking to
their loved one. We can't see them, but in a
shared death experience, people see those loved ones in the room,
(09:14):
and I think it is so special, And one of
the hopes that I have is that people want to
investigate this more and want to learn how they can
kind of put themselves into a mode where this may happen.
With all the studies that go on, George, it is
up to the person passing whether they wish to share
(09:37):
this with another person, which I find interesting that they
have a conductor, whether you want to call it an
angel or god or a light or something like that,
that also participates in this. But wouldn't that be comforting?
It's comforting. I know when we pass away, our loved
ones are there to greet us. But it's so painful
(09:58):
for our loved ones who are witnessing this and they
don't know what's happening. And if we could just kind
of tap in or piggyback on that dying experience and
see the white light, maybe hear the music, maybe see
the loved ones showing up, Gosh, it would do so
much for the living to know that the dying really
(10:19):
does go on.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
What generates the shared experience? Andra, Is it the dying
doing something to us or is it the living? And
what is it?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Well, it could be a combination of all of the above.
I simplify this because we live in an age of technology, George.
We're so busy with what's going on on our phone
and the text messages and all that, and then we're
always thinking about the future or the past, and there's
worries and concerns. We're not present. There is a world
(10:52):
within a world going on right now, right here with
all of us. We can't see it the afterlife, the hereafter.
I think it's just vibrating at a different frequency. And
we know by mediumship and some meditation and things that
when we can slow down, we can observe, have these
(11:14):
visitations or communicate with loved ones on like a mediumistic level,
a soul full level. So these could be going on
all the time. We're just so busy that we're not
aware of them. Most of the people, George, that have
these shared death experiences practice some sort of meditation, being
(11:39):
present in their life, yoga, you know, those kind of
things to slow down the busy mind. So to me,
that's the access way. If we can start the practice
of this long before somebody gets ill, not only is
it good for peace of mind and new ideas and
so many other things, but if we get into that
(12:01):
practice of being present, and then while we're by, say,
the bedside of our loved one, we have no undelivered communication,
you know, we let go of the baggage of the past.
We talk, we forgive and all that stuff. We're present
with them and we're open, and we've practiced now being
in that present moment, and we also have to engage
(12:23):
our creative mode. We call it imagination, but imagination makes
us think that we're making something up. Anyone who's taken
a medium class or practicing mediums know that it occurs
like our imagination. But when you start verbalizing what it
is you're seeing or hearing or experiencing, those are accurate
(12:43):
things happening or details evidence about somebody in the afterlife.
So to trust that imagination, that creative center that we
have that we're not making this up. This is real,
and sometimes we just go with the flow, and the
more we can envision, the more things come to us.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You had mentioned that these aren't limited by space and distance.
Why is that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I don't think there is any space or distance in
the other side.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think there's just this.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
A feeling of now that consciousness is all connected. It
is hard to put my head around how it all happens.
I've done lots of studies and experiments in remote viewing
and have been able to tell what's on somebody's dining
room table on the opposite side of the country.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
How would I know that? How would I know things
about a deceased loved one.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Somehow we are all connected, and maybe we'll figure it
out once we cross over. But right now we can
just trust, so we can talk to our loved ones.
We can feel if my dad say, it was on
the other side of the earth and passed away, and
(14:02):
all of a sudden, I have a dream and wake up.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And he's there.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
There's something about being a soul or spirit in the afterlife.
We can be at more than one place at a
time where just a thought thought is our main communication.
And it seems like magic and miracles to us here
on earth. But we're going to find out soon enough
that this is just normal. That we can be wherever
(14:26):
we want to be our contentness, can we?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Now what does it mean? Sandro If for some reason
somebody never has a shared death experience with a loved
one or a friend.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That may happen.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
In fact, when my dad passed, I was in the moment.
He was suffering from a lot of pain, passed away
siblings there crying. There was no shared death experience there.
And in fact, if somebody would say, you know, oh,
I saw the light and I saw his soul leave
the body, there's so much anger that can be tied
(15:00):
up with grief that I might not.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Have accepted it.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I really might not have The thing is it's an
opening for us to explore. Also, I'm okay that I
haven't had a shared death experience with him, but it's
opened my eyes to what are ways that we can
still connect with our loved one. So what if we're
not witnessing exactly what happens in that final moment, we've
(15:27):
got eternity together. I'm blessed that I still have a
mom here on this planet who's going to turn eighty
four years old soon, and so by living my life,
being present with her, communicating everything that needs to be said,
no hidden agendas anything like that.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is it possible I have one when she passes? Sure
it is.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I mean she may pass in her sleep. I mean
I may go first. You never know how life is
going to go. But I think it's important to know
that this is possible. Leaves us open to so many
other things that are available to us.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Sandra.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
If you have a loved one or a friend who
has passed on, but they never come back basically or
you never get in touch with them.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Why, well, George, could it be that they're not getting
in touch with us, or could it be that we
are not in the mode to know that.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
They're around good point?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
So it's easy to blame our loved ones that we
are not getting signs from them. There could be signs
all around and we just brush them off to their
that's our imagination.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And you take a story.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Of a grandmother giving a kid a Christmas gift. You know,
grandma gets all excited, she wraps it up, she gives
the gift, but she never gets a thank you or
never gets acknowledged while those gifts stop coming. And not
that our loved ones don't still love us, but when
they're doing everything they can to say hey, we're still here,
(17:04):
and in very subtle ways sometimes and we dismiss them
as our imagination, they might say, well, you know, we're
going to be together again in the blink of an
eye because there's no time, they say, in the afterlife.
So maybe they stop trying. Their love is always there,
And I see on wonderful medium readings. We do a
(17:24):
free Sunday gathering inspirational service every single Sunday, and there's
a medium demonstration included, and the loved ones from people's
loved ones from all over the world come through with
evidence that I feel in witness it every week that
there's still part of our lives. They witness what's going on.
They see what's going on. They were there when this
(17:45):
or that happened. And so we need to make ourselves,
not make ourselves, but just be open that it's real
that our loved ones can come through. You can ask
for a sign, you can ask for a certain thing,
but then it's up to us to pay attention. And
our loved ones come through in different ways. I think
kids and young people that pass now who are really
(18:08):
big in technology. There's text messages coming through from loved ones.
There's emails that still come through from their email account
even though they're not touching it. You know, there's that
sort of thing that happens. And of course, my eighty
some old year old grandmother who passed, you know, she
might not go for technology, but George, just before I
fall asleep at night, sometimes Grammy's face is right there
(18:31):
and just that's feeling of love. My grandfat My dad
does this as well. Sometimes there's a little slide show
in my mind of memories. These are subtle ways that
they're coming through that it's very easy to just brush
off that this is our imagination and you know, just
didn't this isn't really them, But they'll come through in
the most subtle ways. We just need to be open
(18:53):
to it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
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