July 16, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and author Von Braschler discuss lucid dreams where the dreamer is aware they are dreaming and can control the outcome, his techniques for having lucid dreams at will, and how to interpret images and symbols in your dreams to gain insight into your waking life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back George Norry along with journalist Von Bresler
Back with Us. Author of more than a dozen books
on consciousness, development, themes of time traveled dreams, spirit communication,
and out of body projections. His websites are linked up
at Coast tocoastam dot com. He's also on Facebook, Von
welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How have you been, Hi, George, I've been okay, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm looking forward to this. How did you get involved
in investigating dreams?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh my gosh, you know, I was just working in
the newspaper business back in Oregon in nineteen eighty and
I got snowed in. I was living on Mount Hood
and it was just about the time when Mount Saint
Helens blew its topped. We dusted all that up, and
then it snowed, and it snowed for eight days, and
(00:53):
I couldn't even find my car, even with a broom handle.
It was just buried. And I lost all power, and
I lost heat, and I had no food, and I
had a telephone. I started calling a couple of people
and and and anyway, I fell back on my bed
(01:14):
and I had a spontaneous lucid dream. It was the
first one that I really thought was a lucid dream.
It was it was clear, it was uh. I was
very conscious in the dream. It was meaningful and and
it was uh uh. I came out of the dream
(01:37):
totally alert and eager to think about what the dream meant,
you know, And I wanted to do more of that.
And I thought, does this just happen sporadically to people
now and then? Or could I actually program it? And
I thought, wow, if I can program it, So I
(01:58):
started reading anything I could get my hands on, and
luckily I had a lot of books on yoga, and
I studied consciousness and that was the path I took.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Good for you, our brains originating from the dreams? Are
dreams originating from the brain or outside.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Of the brain.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, that's the point I'd really like to make, And
I think it's important for people to at least consider this,
if not wrap their heads fully around it. That a
common dream, a restless dream, is simply your brain not
fully shut down at night. It's just cranking away and
(02:41):
and you're you're kind of sleepless, and you're having these
memory dreams. And they're sometimes you know, unsettling. You know,
they're problems that are vexing you and you can't shake them,
and you're working on it, working on it, and you're
you know, you're not really wide awake, and is bothersome,
(03:02):
but you can't let go of those thoughts. So I
think what happens is that you need to go deep
inside yourself for to reach a higher state of consciousness.
So I think that lucid dreams come from a state
of altered consciousness.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And of course the definition for a lucid dream is
a dream you know you're dreaming that's fascinating all by itself,
isn't it?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It is? It is so so you know, it is
like that scene in the Frank Herbert Great book doing
the Sleeper has awakened. I think this is it. We're
fully awake when we dream, that is to say, a
lucid dream. It's it's it's it's when your your inner self,
(03:50):
your your true self, comes forward and takes you on
a journey of exploration and discovery.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
At what point, von do you read in that dream
that it's a lucid dream, that it is a dream?
Is it right away towards the end of it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
If you set it up right, you should recognize that
you are conscious of being in the dream. You know,
it's the term lucid dream. And then you you need
to orient yourself as to your surroundings and you need
to validate that you're having the dream experience, that you're
actually there and you feel your presence there, and you
(04:31):
recognize that you are there. You take ownership of the
dream and your presence in the dream, and you recognize
that now you have this perfect opportunity for observing everything
you can observe in a state of heightened awareness.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can people lucid dream at will?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah? See, that's the thing. That's the thing. If you
can actually plan out a dream, actually set up various
steps as I've tried to do here, you can actually
you can actually set up the dream and purposely go
into the dream with certain intent. It's very important in
(05:15):
a lucid dream to do it properly, to have a
focused intent that will take you into the dream, and
once you're there, you'll have the focus of what you
want to accomplish. In other words, have an agenda. Nobody
goes on a trip unprepared, and so it should be
(05:36):
with our lucid dreams.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Now, most dreams, of course, we just go to sleep
and then we just dream, whether they're lucid or otherwise.
How do you train yourself the lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, see the lucid dream. You need to you need
to harmonize body, mind and spirit. Now, this is what
yoga is really all about. But people get confused about
the language. So I'm a Westerner. I look at all
of these sutras and then I try to decipher what
(06:09):
they really meant, because sometimes the Sanskrit it's just a
little harsh. When they say the mind is a slayer
of the mind. They say, you have to put the mind.
Put the mind to rest. We put the mind to
rest up by slaying it, but by harmonizing. And if
you harmonize body, mind and spirit, you have now a
(06:32):
holistic approach to dreaming. And in that mode of harmonization
body mind and spirit. Well, then can you reach the
right state for lucid dreaming.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well what von Bressler's book is called Programming Your Lucid Dreams,
which just came out this year. How long did it
take you to research that book on?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh gosh, you know, I really spend a lot of
time on I'll be honest. I mean I had this technique,
and I would I would do workshops here and there.
I did the Omega Institute in New York for a while,
and you know, and I went back to England and
I tried it, and I found that it was easier
(07:14):
for people to enter a state of lucid dreaming than
to learn to do deep meditation. This is really incredible.
So I stopped trying to show people how in yoga
we go into deep meditation because you know, in the West,
we tend to think of yoga as stretching exercises or diet.
(07:36):
You know, it's way more than that. Those are the
physical prerequisites to getting you in the right frame of
mind and the right attitude to go deeper into a
study of body minded spirit.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
How would you categorize a lucid dream in terms of
importance compared to like a precognitive d.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, now, a precognitive dream can certainly be a lucid dream. Now, Historically,
through the ages, lucid dreams have told the future, they've
alerted people, They've supposedly connected one to divine guidance. That's
(08:23):
very common. They've directed people and given them answers to
complex problems. They've alerted them to things. I mean, in
the Bible you can find God talks to people and
alerts them to danger, or it tells the King how
to build a temple. You know, there's all kinds of
health health issues. Precognitive dreams can be a very lucid
(08:51):
dream where you go and and you observe what lies
ahead of you. Now, this is very common in the
Native American shamanic tradition called dream walking, where they go
into a deep trance and they come back with insights
not just for themselves but for all the people. We
(09:13):
would call them profits, and they call them dream walkers.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Is it safe to lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah? See, this is it. You know. People often say, well,
I would like to try that, but it sounds very dangerous.
I'm just going to let it happen. No, if you
set it up properly, it is absolutely safe. And you
must recognize that wherever you go in your dream and
(09:42):
your consciousness, wherever your consciousness takes you, you're always going
to come back right back to the safety of your body,
which you've hopefully left in a very quiet, peaceful repose.
It's very important to set up the body in a
state of quiet, peaceful repose the body and the mind
physical mind fully asleep.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And what would you say, vonn is the benefit of
a lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, so there are so many benefits the practical things. Uh,
there's little things like losing your keys and and and
and finding them. You know. It's it's uh, it's it's
not unlike it's not unlike remote viewing. You know, where
(10:31):
your consciousness reaches out and sees things. Now, whether you
want to say you've actually physically gone somewhere, now, you
didn't get a walk out of the room, did you.
So it's let's call it a great inner journey, you know.
Every I think everyone will be happy with that that answer.
I'll let people think about where you go and how
(10:52):
you go all on your own. I think there's a
lot of opportunity to to to have uh, the problems
to our biggest questions that bother us resolved in a
dream if we set up the dream with the intent
to actually address that in the dream, actually setting up
(11:14):
an agenda and then and then creating a diagram and
then mapping where you want to go. So there are
also there are also profound insights. You know, there's there's
there's the case of uh spirit animals. People will often
dream of animals in their dream and and while it's
(11:36):
often hard to say, as with a dream dictionary, which
will works better with common dreams restless dreams? You say, well,
I'm I'm dreaming of of of of a of a
line and chasing me. What does that mean? You know,
I dream of a bird that swoops down in and
blocks my path? What does that mean? Well, in the
(11:58):
Shamanic tradition, uh spirit animals or totems will come to
you in your dream if they need to impart something
to you. Usually this will be at a time of
crossroads in your life. You've come to a point where
you need you need to negotiate where you go next,
(12:19):
how you proceed. You're at a crossroads. And if, if, if,
a spirit animal will well present itself to you in
various ways, maybe leaving bird feathers in front of you
day after day, or or a frog keeps hopping in
front of you wherever you go, you know, repeat day
(12:40):
after day, and you ignore it. Well, then the spirit
animal will appear to you in a lucid dream. And
this is these can be very powerful dreams and it
will will will impart some information to you. And this
information act actually can be looked up in a dream dictionary.
(13:01):
You know. There's a lot of there's a lot of
insight as to the attributes of various animals. Mine happens
to be a sea otter. Yeah, the honor speaks to me.
You know. I've also had a giant stake come and
speak to me. You know. Now, they don't speak to
(13:22):
you in words because in a dream state, it's a
non physical state. You're not seeing or hearing with normal
vision or or or or ears. You're you're you're receiving
this like a thought form or telepathically if you will.
But you're going to you're going to interpersonalize the information
(13:43):
that you that you take in.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I had a lucid dream ons vawn where I told
myself in the dream, it's a lucid dream, George, you're
just dreaming. Yeah, And then fell out of a window.
I couldn't get hurt. Yeah, Now what was that all about?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah? I mean yeah, I mean you well, the point
is that you recognize that you you're not there in
your physical body, so you can't physically.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Be injured, nothing could happen to me.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, you're there in an energy body. Your your consciousness
is there, your your your energized, your conscious energy is there.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You could look at your body, you could look at
your hands, you could feel in touch, but it's not there.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, I mean, think of the people that have come
out of surgeries or they've been thick or near death
and they report looking down at their body on the.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Ground laughing with them or something like that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what we're talking about,
the consciousness body.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Why is it important that we lucid dream.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, it is really important to lucid dream. We we
need our spirit, our inner self whatever you want to
call it it self within Our inner self needs to
discover and learn and grow and explore. It longs to
do this. It longs to explore and find things. This
(15:20):
is a great avenue of exploration. I mean, if you
think of the universal consciousness, right, I mean, our consciousness
can and a lucid dream go out and find all
kinds of insights out there. It can explore a great,
vast library of information that we would have a hard
(15:43):
time assembly in our physical daytime.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Is lucier dreaming vond safe.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, it is, because you know. The thing is when
when you recognize that you've you've had the dream and
and you've had the experience and and and the information
that you need to get from from that dream, you
recognize you recognize that. You know, it's like a great
treasure hunt, you know, and you grab old and then
(16:15):
first thing you want to do is go back, you know,
to your body. You have a you have a safe
harbor there, you know, and you will instantly think back
to your body and come back like a My teacher
used to call it like a rubber band effect, just
to zoom your back very quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It's not like a common dream, a restless dream where
you slowly come out of the dream. No, you're instantly back.
There's think of it as like a magnetic attraction.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Is it like cord when you have a body experience.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's it, that's it, the chord. Yeah, it's instantaneous, it's
snap back effect.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Can we plan our time and place for a lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
See? I think you can, And I've had pretty good
success myself and with other groups showing how to actually
plan out a dream with the intent of what you're
going to do and being as specific as you can
and what you'd want to experience in a dream, thinking
(17:26):
of where you want to go. A lot of people,
you know, they would like to go back and review
a time in their life, perhaps you know, an earlier time.
Maybe they want to see ahead in the future, you know,
maybe they want to see someone who's far far away,
you know. And yeah, I think you and it's important
(17:46):
to actually visualize that using good, good, good visualization technique.
Actually picture, picture what you want to do and what
you want to see and where you want to go.
And it's up to you. It's your dream, it's it's
it's personalized.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Are lucid dreams more realistic than normal dreams?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That that's a good point. I mean they're really super realistic.
They're there crystal queer.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Because I don't remember flying, for example, in a lucid dream.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But yeah, yeah there are.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You can fly, you can jump, you could do anything
you want.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty serious. It's pretty real,
you know. But but you're not restricted by the by
the by the normal physical laws either, because your consciousness
is just pure you know, energy, and it can it
isn't weighted down, you know, and there's a lot of
(18:50):
latitude of what you can do in a lucid dream.
Sky's the limit.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back George Norry along with journalist Von Bresler
Back with Us. Author of more than a dozen books
on consciousness, development, themes of time traveled dreams, spirit communication,
and out of body projections. His websites are linked up
at Coast tocoastam dot com. He's also on Facebook, Von
welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How have you been, Hi, George, I've been okay, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm looking forward to this. How did you get involved
in investigating dreams?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh my gosh, you know, I was just working in
the newspaper business back in Oregon in nineteen eighty and
I got snowed in. I was living on Mount Hood
and it was just about the time when Mount Saint
Helens blew its topped. We dusted all that up, and
then it snowed, and it snowed for eight days, and
(00:53):
I couldn't even find my car, even with a broom handle.
It was just buried. And I lost all power, and
I lost heat, and I had no food, and I
had a telephone. I started calling a couple of people
and and and anyway, I fell back on my bed
(01:14):
and I had a spontaneous lucid dream. It was the
first one that I really thought was a lucid dream.
It was it was clear, it was uh. I was
very conscious in the dream. It was meaningful and and
it was uh uh. I came out of the dream
(01:37):
totally alert and eager to think about what the dream meant,
you know, And I wanted to do more of that.
And I thought, does this just happen sporadically to people
now and then? Or could I actually program it? And
I thought, wow, if I can program it, So I
(01:58):
started reading anything I could get my hands on, and
luckily I had a lot of books on yoga, and
I studied consciousness and that was the path I took.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Good for you, our brains originating from the dreams? Are
dreams originating from the brain or outside.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Of the brain.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, that's the point I'd really like to make, And
I think it's important for people to at least consider this,
if not wrap their heads fully around it. That a
common dream, a restless dream, is simply your brain not
fully shut down at night. It's just cranking away and
(02:41):
and you're you're kind of sleepless, and you're having these
memory dreams. And they're sometimes you know, unsettling. You know,
they're problems that are vexing you and you can't shake them,
and you're working on it, working on it, and you're
you know, you're not really wide awake, and is bothersome,
(03:02):
but you can't let go of those thoughts. So I
think what happens is that you need to go deep
inside yourself for to reach a higher state of consciousness.
So I think that lucid dreams come from a state
of altered consciousness.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And of course the definition for a lucid dream is
a dream you know you're dreaming that's fascinating all by itself,
isn't it?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It is? It is so so you know, it is
like that scene in the Frank Herbert Great book doing
the Sleeper has awakened. I think this is it. We're
fully awake when we dream, that is to say, a
lucid dream. It's it's it's it's when your your inner self,
(03:50):
your your true self, comes forward and takes you on
a journey of exploration and discovery.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
At what point, von do you read in that dream
that it's a lucid dream, that it is a dream?
Is it right away towards the end of it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
If you set it up right, you should recognize that
you are conscious of being in the dream. You know,
it's the term lucid dream. And then you you need
to orient yourself as to your surroundings and you need
to validate that you're having the dream experience, that you're
actually there and you feel your presence there, and you
(04:31):
recognize that you are there. You take ownership of the
dream and your presence in the dream, and you recognize
that now you have this perfect opportunity for observing everything
you can observe in a state of heightened awareness.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can people lucid dream at will?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah? See, that's the thing. That's the thing. If you
can actually plan out a dream, actually set up various
steps as I've tried to do here, you can actually
you can actually set up the dream and purposely go
into the dream with certain intent. It's very important in
(05:15):
a lucid dream to do it properly, to have a
focused intent that will take you into the dream, and
once you're there, you'll have the focus of what you
want to accomplish. In other words, have an agenda. Nobody
goes on a trip unprepared, and so it should be
(05:36):
with our lucid dreams.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Now, most dreams, of course, we just go to sleep
and then we just dream, whether they're lucid or otherwise.
How do you train yourself the lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, see the lucid dream. You need to you need
to harmonize body, mind and spirit. Now, this is what
yoga is really all about. But people get confused about
the language. So I'm a Westerner. I look at all
of these sutras and then I try to decipher what
(06:09):
they really meant, because sometimes the Sanskrit it's just a
little harsh. When they say the mind is a slayer
of the mind. They say, you have to put the mind.
Put the mind to rest. We put the mind to
rest up by slaying it, but by harmonizing. And if
you harmonize body, mind and spirit, you have now a
(06:32):
holistic approach to dreaming. And in that mode of harmonization
body mind and spirit. Well, then can you reach the
right state for lucid dreaming.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well what von Bressler's book is called Programming Your Lucid Dreams,
which just came out this year. How long did it
take you to research that book on?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh gosh, you know, I really spend a lot of
time on I'll be honest. I mean I had this technique,
and I would I would do workshops here and there.
I did the Omega Institute in New York for a while,
and you know, and I went back to England and
I tried it, and I found that it was easier
(07:14):
for people to enter a state of lucid dreaming than
to learn to do deep meditation. This is really incredible.
So I stopped trying to show people how in yoga
we go into deep meditation because you know, in the West,
we tend to think of yoga as stretching exercises or diet.
(07:36):
You know, it's way more than that. Those are the
physical prerequisites to getting you in the right frame of
mind and the right attitude to go deeper into a
study of body minded spirit.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
How would you categorize a lucid dream in terms of
importance compared to like a precognitive d.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, now, a precognitive dream can certainly be a lucid dream. Now, Historically,
through the ages, lucid dreams have told the future, they've
alerted people, They've supposedly connected one to divine guidance. That's
(08:23):
very common. They've directed people and given them answers to
complex problems. They've alerted them to things. I mean, in
the Bible you can find God talks to people and
alerts them to danger, or it tells the King how
to build a temple. You know, there's all kinds of
health health issues. Precognitive dreams can be a very lucid
(08:51):
dream where you go and and you observe what lies
ahead of you. Now, this is very common in the
Native American shamanic tradition called dream walking, where they go
into a deep trance and they come back with insights
not just for themselves but for all the people. We
(09:13):
would call them profits, and they call them dream walkers.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Is it safe to lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah? See, this is it. You know. People often say, well,
I would like to try that, but it sounds very dangerous.
I'm just going to let it happen. No, if you
set it up properly, it is absolutely safe. And you
must recognize that wherever you go in your dream and
(09:42):
your consciousness, wherever your consciousness takes you, you're always going
to come back right back to the safety of your body,
which you've hopefully left in a very quiet, peaceful repose.
It's very important to set up the body in a
state of quiet, peaceful repose the body and the mind
physical mind fully asleep.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And what would you say, vonn is the benefit of
a lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, so there are so many benefits the practical things. Uh,
there's little things like losing your keys and and and
and finding them. You know. It's it's uh, it's it's
not unlike it's not unlike remote viewing. You know, where
(10:31):
your consciousness reaches out and sees things. Now, whether you
want to say you've actually physically gone somewhere, now, you
didn't get a walk out of the room, did you.
So it's let's call it a great inner journey, you know.
Every I think everyone will be happy with that that answer.
I'll let people think about where you go and how
(10:52):
you go all on your own. I think there's a
lot of opportunity to to to have uh, the problems
to our biggest questions that bother us resolved in a
dream if we set up the dream with the intent
to actually address that in the dream, actually setting up
(11:14):
an agenda and then and then creating a diagram and
then mapping where you want to go. So there are
also there are also profound insights. You know, there's there's
there's the case of uh spirit animals. People will often
dream of animals in their dream and and while it's
(11:36):
often hard to say, as with a dream dictionary, which
will works better with common dreams restless dreams? You say, well,
I'm I'm dreaming of of of of a of a
line and chasing me. What does that mean? You know,
I dream of a bird that swoops down in and
blocks my path? What does that mean? Well, in the
(11:58):
Shamanic tradition, uh spirit animals or totems will come to
you in your dream if they need to impart something
to you. Usually this will be at a time of
crossroads in your life. You've come to a point where
you need you need to negotiate where you go next,
(12:19):
how you proceed. You're at a crossroads. And if, if, if,
a spirit animal will well present itself to you in
various ways, maybe leaving bird feathers in front of you
day after day, or or a frog keeps hopping in
front of you wherever you go, you know, repeat day
(12:40):
after day, and you ignore it. Well, then the spirit
animal will appear to you in a lucid dream. And
this is these can be very powerful dreams and it
will will will impart some information to you. And this
information act actually can be looked up in a dream dictionary.
(13:01):
You know. There's a lot of there's a lot of
insight as to the attributes of various animals. Mine happens
to be a sea otter. Yeah, the honor speaks to me.
You know. I've also had a giant stake come and
speak to me. You know. Now, they don't speak to
(13:22):
you in words because in a dream state, it's a
non physical state. You're not seeing or hearing with normal
vision or or or or ears. You're you're you're receiving
this like a thought form or telepathically if you will.
But you're going to you're going to interpersonalize the information
(13:43):
that you that you take in.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I had a lucid dream ons vawn where I told
myself in the dream, it's a lucid dream, George, you're
just dreaming. Yeah, And then fell out of a window.
I couldn't get hurt. Yeah, Now what was that all about?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah? I mean yeah, I mean you well, the point
is that you recognize that you you're not there in
your physical body, so you can't physically.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Be injured, nothing could happen to me.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, you're there in an energy body. Your your consciousness
is there, your your your energized, your conscious energy is there.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You could look at your body, you could look at
your hands, you could feel in touch, but it's not there.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, I mean, think of the people that have come
out of surgeries or they've been thick or near death
and they report looking down at their body on the.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Ground laughing with them or something like that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what we're talking about,
the consciousness body.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Why is it important that we lucid dream.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, it is really important to lucid dream. We we
need our spirit, our inner self whatever you want to
call it it self within Our inner self needs to
discover and learn and grow and explore. It longs to
do this. It longs to explore and find things. This
(15:20):
is a great avenue of exploration. I mean, if you
think of the universal consciousness, right, I mean, our consciousness
can and a lucid dream go out and find all
kinds of insights out there. It can explore a great,
vast library of information that we would have a hard
(15:43):
time assembly in our physical daytime.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Is lucier dreaming vond safe.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, it is, because you know. The thing is when
when you recognize that you've you've had the dream and
and you've had the experience and and and the information
that you need to get from from that dream, you
recognize you recognize that. You know, it's like a great
treasure hunt, you know, and you grab old and then
(16:15):
first thing you want to do is go back, you know,
to your body. You have a you have a safe
harbor there, you know, and you will instantly think back
to your body and come back like a My teacher
used to call it like a rubber band effect, just
to zoom your back very quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It's not like a common dream, a restless dream where
you slowly come out of the dream. No, you're instantly back.
There's think of it as like a magnetic attraction.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Is it like cord when you have a body experience.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's it, that's it, the chord. Yeah, it's instantaneous, it's
snap back effect.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Can we plan our time and place for a lucid dream?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
See? I think you can, And I've had pretty good
success myself and with other groups showing how to actually
plan out a dream with the intent of what you're
going to do and being as specific as you can
and what you'd want to experience in a dream, thinking
(17:26):
of where you want to go. A lot of people,
you know, they would like to go back and review
a time in their life, perhaps you know, an earlier time.
Maybe they want to see ahead in the future, you know,
maybe they want to see someone who's far far away,
you know. And yeah, I think you and it's important
(17:46):
to actually visualize that using good, good, good visualization technique.
Actually picture, picture what you want to do and what
you want to see and where you want to go.
And it's up to you. It's your dream, it's it's
it's personalized.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Are lucid dreams more realistic than normal dreams?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That that's a good point. I mean they're really super realistic.
They're there crystal queer.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Because I don't remember flying, for example, in a lucid dream.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But yeah, yeah there are.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You can fly, you can jump, you could do anything
you want.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty serious. It's pretty real,
you know. But but you're not restricted by the by
the by the normal physical laws either, because your consciousness
is just pure you know, energy, and it can it
isn't weighted down, you know, and there's a lot of
(18:50):
latitude of what you can do in a lucid dream.
Sky's the limit.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
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