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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back, George Nori with you. Roger Burnley with US.
Renowned life and spiritual coach. Author. His book is called
Overcoming Fear, and he's a channel. Roger Channel's his higher
self named Wilhelm, a profound non physical intelligence delivering transformational
guidance for humanity. Roger, welcome back. Have you been George?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm been great. I'm so glad to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am getting so many great emails about you, my friend.
It's good to have you back. And how's the book?
How's the book Overcoming Fear? Which you wrote about six
years ago?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Didn't you correct? Now? That's when I released it in
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And of course you are on Beyond Belief with me
about almost a year ago.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yes, yeah, exactly. And I didn't know as much as
I do now. And that's why I'm glad to be back,
because so much has been revealed.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Tell us about Wilhelm. How did this evolution accur? Occur?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
In nineteen eighty nine, I sat down to start doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I decided to do automatic writing because I had heard
about it. I was looking for something because I've been
moving through a transition in my life and need some
help and just meditated, and all of a sudden I
started to get some connection that I didn't understand, but
it was helping me.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And I kept doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Every single day, I'm writing something and I'm getting this
information that is giving me some guidance to move through
my life. And because I was going through a whole
bunch of things for many many years and I didn't
tell people, I just kept saving them and people found
them later about two thousand and seven or something like that,
and so then I started publishing them.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
At that time, I thought they were just for me.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I thought they were just helping me to understand certain things.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And as it went.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
On, they started being exposed to the public, and then
people wanted me to write more about it, and I
was hiding.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I said I didn't understand it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And then it kept evolving as it was taking me
through all these difficulties that I was having in my life.
I was healing things that I didn't understand, physical things
and just understanding so much more, but I still was
kind of resistant about it all. And in twenty nineteen,
I thought, well, I've got to tell people something because
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I knew that this information had helped me move through fear,
because I'd been fearful in my entire life, and I
knew that that's the thing that holds most people back.
So I said, I have to write this book. And
then even when I wrote it, I was said, well,
I was a little afraid to write it because I
didn't know what people were going to think of it.
But then it started to get I started to receive
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these responses like it was really helping people. So I said, well,
I got to do more then, because that's always been
kind of my nature, is to help people.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I've always been that way in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Now, the how did the Monarch of William come through.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
It was when I first when the first communication happened,
it kind of startled me and I said, who's speaking
to me? And they said, well, this is your higher
self or another part of you, but if that makes
you uncomfortable, you can call us whatever you like. And
I just said Wilhelm. No clue as to why I
said that name, And then over the years it kept
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being revealed to me why I picked that name, because
there were many figures throughout history that they were leading
me back to, because they were trying to explain that
we all have this intelligence that we connect to that
is eternal, but as we're living, we will connect to
certain parts of that. And so I kept finding the
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aspects of Wilhelm that would make sense. And later on
I discovered that Gerta, the philosopher Gerta wrote a book,
wrote a series called Wilhelm Meister, The Search for Self Actualization,
and I thought, well, that's what I've been doing, and
that's what this work seemed to have been doing as well.
So there were just these different connections. But what they
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wanted to say is that everyone has a connection.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That's what was coming through.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Is there something important that they've tried to impart through you?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yes, that we would be moving through a big transition
in our world, and it was an energetic transition and
everyone had a part in it. And when they found
their part, meaning.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
When you get together with Wilhelm, how do you do it?
Are you in a meditation state?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yes, that's how I started.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I would always sit down and I would meditate and
it would just come to me and then I would
write I didn't know, didn't really make the connections at first,
but it was just starting making sense, and then it
was some It shifted in twenty twenty and that's when
they told me the world was changing and that this
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information would help people understand and their role in the change.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Did you have doubts at all when this was happening.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Oh, George, Yes, that's why I didn't want to tell
any what are you kidding? So the first thing that
happened they said, they revealed to me in twenty twenty one.
They said, we've given you everything you need to know
about living a great life and creating a wonderful world,
and everyone has a part in it. And then they said, well.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
If you meet someone, we've given you a message on
their birthday.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
In twenty twelve. I said that makes no sense and
so I wasn't going to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
They said, no, there's an energetic connection for every single person.
And then I started testing it. So I would meet
someone asking their birthday, and it was something about that
particular message that would resonate for them. They said, all
the message would resonate for anyone, you know, most people,
but for their birthday would be a particular one. And
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I found it even on your birthday, which was a
perfect one.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What's the master such they're trying to impart with us, Roger.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
That we each have something within us. It's energetic, and
we come into the world. We all have things that
we bring with us from our ancestors, from those who
came that may not serve us living in this life
or creating the future life that we want to have
in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And so if we understand our individual.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Role, that's an energy that we're each going to emit
and then we create something wonderful.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But we're going to typically go through a little.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Conflict because we don't like we don't we're afraid of
the unknown, and.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
We were going to move through an unknown.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Time in our world. But they wanted us to understand
that it's also energy. And when we understand our individual energy,
what our role is, then we live these much better
lives and we created a better world.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Just before you came on, Roger, I had the Michael
Schrmer on the skeptic who is it seems to be
a believer in the afterlife. I mean, he wants to
believe in the afterlife. He wants to know that things
continue right. How do you convince how do you convince
people otherwise.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, when you understand everything is consciousness. When we're here,
we're focused on our physical bodies. But then we start
to have these memories of things sometimes we can't explain
because it's a consciousness. And so when I started to discover,
Wilhelm said, we gave you everything in twenty twelve, and
they did it in order because they wanted us to
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understand there's an order in the universe. The very first
message in twenty twelve and January first set infitted intelligence.
Every soul has it and they just have to uncover
it within themselves. And they were going to we would
move through a time where they would be confused about
who they were, but this information would help them understand
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that and create the life that they want to have.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Our other entities outside of Wilhelm coming to you, well.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's a collection. They said.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
We don't want people to separate these things, because that's
the problem in our world.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We've made separations.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And they don't want individuals to think that they have
to have some great power to be able to access
the higher self of them, because whatever they are accessing
is within them, and it's in their consciousness. And as
they unlock it, they start to understand themselves in greater depth.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Truly remarkable. Does there anything scare you about this, Roger?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Not anymore. You know, for the longest time, I saw it.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
In the very beginning in twenty twenty, when I started
receiving messages that were different, they kept telling me you're
going through a restructuring, and that frightened me. I said,
what does that mean. It's going to be a little disruptive,
but we have to move through that to create something better.
We have to let go of our old world, our
old ideas about ourselves to create something more.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And that's what is.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
So they didn't want people to be uncomfortable. They wanted
to know that it's an opportunity. Then they brought me
back to understanding why. They told me twenty twelve, most
people thought the world was a lot of people thought
the world was going to end in twenty twelve because
of the Mayan calendar, right, you know, in December twenty first.
But they gave me something different. They said, no, you're
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building a new world and each person is going to
do it when they understand who they are. So they
gave me a message on December twenty first, of twenty
twelve that said weight, and they said weight is an
energy that if you hold on to it, you're going
to have this faith and create something much better as
you're moving through this transition.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now, the title of your book is called Overcoming Fear.
What is that? Fear?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Typically of the unknown, of who we could become.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
That's really what it is, because see we are we
become used to what we have known about ourselves, and
that becomes comfortable, and so exposing our real self is
for whatever reason, we've built up these ideas that maybe
we're not okay, maybe we shouldn't become who we're meant
to be, and so we hold back and what we
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could appreciate, could do or accomplish in our own lives.
And so if we can address that basic idea that
it's we must change and the thing that we want
is always.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
In that unknown, but sometimes we've become afraid.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
How did you finally validate Wilhelm and realize this is
the real deal?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I healed so many things.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I couldn't believe it, and so then in twenty twenty one,
they kept urging me to give this to other people,
and so and I doubted it again and I put
a bunch of people in a program because I wanted
to see and I use the messages from twenty twelve
to see what would happen. And it blew me away
because they came out so different so quickly, and I go,
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how did this happen? Surprised me? And Wilhelm said, that's
how you evolve. You all come in and gather information,
you give it to others, and that's how the civilization
goes on. And and so I saw that happening, and
it was it was tremendous, and so now I thought,
I've got to tell more people because I want them
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to understand it. The other thing that happened when we
started developing artificial intelligence. I took a bunch of the
well Heeld messages and I put them in. I just said,
analyze these and tell me what they're saying. And they're
saying these are these are It's about an evolution and
consciousness that happens over time. And that's how I received
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the information. And then they started showing me and I
didn't know this. This was unknown to me. And much
of the information I was receiving or doing a galactic
changes or a new moon or a full moon or
something like that, because those energies affect us and they
were giving me the information of how to navigate through
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those particular times. I was completely unaware of that, and
then but with the artificial intelligence, they started verifying it
and in order certain days I would put down messages
on the same date over years, and it would come
out that it was an evolution of information and intelligence
that just grew over time, which is what happens with
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us individually and also collectively as a collective, conscious, collective society.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well with Roger Burnley, his website is his name linked
up at coast tocosdam dot com. What do you think
Wilhelm's core philosophy is.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
That every person born has worth and value and all
they have to do is understand it and find it
within themselves. And the more of us who do that,
we see something different happening in our world and we
create the future. The last message that they gave me
on December thirty first of twenty two well was the
future saying that we are creating the future each of us,
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and we individually do it in our lives and then
collectively we put that energy into the future world that
we create.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That is truly remarkable. Roger.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, it was a journey.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Was it a journey you would take again if you
had to go through it? Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
God, George, that's good yes.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Because now it was so painful. So much of my
life is so difficult and challenging and horrible. But now
it was worth it because it's other people don't have
to go.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Through it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Now, will your help you? They don't, that's for sure.
I noticed on your website you had a special offer
for Coast to Coast listeners. What is this?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's the journey that's going to take them through so
much of Wilhelm's work that they will understand who they are,
that'll open up so much more of who they are.
And so we created something a journey that they'll receive
and they just have to go to the website. Roger
Burnley dot com. Forward slash your Path, Pah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Tell us about Alex, Sorry, tell us about Alex.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh, Alex far I did that? Was that was? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That was the interview that I did Alex Ferrari at
Next Level. So that I did that interview because it
was coming through I didn't even understand it all. I
just knew that I had to talk and I was
I was so resistant, but I had to get this
to a much larger audience because I'd been hiding it,
and so I did Alex's show and all these folks
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came in afterwards, I alway said, oh, then I have
to do more because people are wanting more information. I
just felt the energies of everyone, and I knew that
I was holding back and I didn't want others to
do that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So that's why that came about. And it became so.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Explosive and things came out in that show, which he
pointed out to me because I did some channeling there
and I which I, you know, I never remember when
I'm doing it. But he said, wow, you answered that
right away, and that's when I started to make this
contact connection that I had this connection. You know, people
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had told me before that I was a pure channel,
but I doubted that, and now I'm seeing that that
was actually what was happening.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And when you channeled, you're not aware of what you're doing,
are you.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No, I don't remember it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean I get into place and I go into
a different state of consciousness and the information just comes through.
And it was just it was so surprising Just yesterday
I found an old session that I was listening to
from a year ago, and it was explaining everything that
was happening now and I had I had no memory
of it.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Willhelm come to you often?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Always yes, and even it's gotten more recently because they
wanted to show that we're in a really energetic phase
right now, and they wanted us to all understand because
not from not from a fear standpoint, but from an
empowerment standpoint. People will see things happening in our world
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or in their lives that maybe uncomfortable, but it's really
an opportunity for them to start to own more of
who they are, to become more empowered, because that is
how we all evolve. And it's over time. When I'm
receiving information from Wilhelm, it's not it's not linear like that.
They've given me things that which fairy took a heart
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long time for me to accept because they could pinpoint
days they showing you're going to be moving through this
and it was odd. Even now, I looked at the
message that was on the site last year for today,
and it's said that about everyone you were born for
this reason, every person they wanted them to under everyone
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to understand that, and I couldn't figure out why how
I received it, and it was organized in order that way.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's phenomenal and.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's truly remarkable. And when you do the channeling, do
you give people advice on lifestyle and things like that health?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well, if it's it comes through in a certain way
that they are not telling They're never tell others what
to do, They're just guiding them. It does it feel
aligned with their authentic self, with their sole purpose, with
whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
That's what And.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
They're always kind of guiding people to make their empowered
choices from their own information, and so that's and there's
always a way that Wilhelm is asking questions of them
to get them to come to their clarity.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
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