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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on
iHeartRadio tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Another great friend of mine, Jeremiah Horseman, we're talking about.
You know, he's out there in Sedona. He's looking up
all the time, he is checking out all the areas.
I was out with him. It was almost last year
this time in about a month, right, It was in
December of last year with you guys, and you guys
were showing me everything. We got to see some of
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the UFOs that you're talking about with Melinda. We were
on Bradshaw Ranch with Tom Dongo and we all had
our own experience at Bradshaw Ranch where something we were
Jeremiah backed me up on this. We were totally the
Scooby Doo gang. All three were standing inside the ranch
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right and as we were doing that, something ran up
to the side of that house and beat up on
the side of the house and then came around the
front part where the door was, and we didn't see it.
We didn't see it, but the door creaked just like
the best haunted house creak ever in the world. And
then it did it again, and we were looking right
at the door, which had window glass panes, and we
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didn't see anything.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That that particular night. Describing it as the Scooby Doo
Gang is definitely the best way to put it. We
were all kind of huddled together and hunched down, and
it shadowed like a beefy big hand pounding on the
walls outside and not at human level. It was up
higher on the yes, and I remember when the door
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creaked open, it was like a sound bite from a
Hollywood fifties movie of a haunted house door opening. It
was creaking as open. I have never seen that before.
We've been investigating that ranch for twelve years and we're
out there at least once, sometimes twice a week. I've
never seen that door move like that without an actual
pair of hands pushing it. So that was a hot
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night to be out there, and in a good night
to especially to have you out there so you get
experience it too.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That was so great. I think it was one of
I absolutely think it was a big foot. I totally
think it was a big foot, but I think it was.
You know, we were talking about if you attract them anyway,
they already know who you are, they know you're coming,
they know everything about you. So to me, I think
a lot of times are like, Hey, my friends in
Alabama and my friends in Colorado, that's Connie. They know, hey,
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we've heard about you know what.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
They know who's there, and sometimes you know who's coming
even before you get there. These creatures are on such
a different level, and it's finally starting to come out
with a lot of people that investigate the big boot creatures.
And it still causes controversy, of course, because there's still
people out there that want to see them as a
simplistic extension of the ape or a long while. Yeah,
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and it's a lot more than that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's way different than that, way different. So let's go
to the plazama UFOs, because when I was on that
last trip last year, we were looking at that with Melenda, right,
we were looking we saw some of those in that
brief time we were there. Do you believe the plasma
UFOs are that you're seeing? Are they man made? Are
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they man flown? Are they something other than that?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's the best question of the day. And we now
do have the answer definitively. And I can't go into
exactly why we know. That's like to come out a
little bit later because of the ongoing investigation. But I
can say that with the number of whistleblowers that we've
got and a number of people that are working on
the team, the plasma craft seems to be one of
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the main things that is being worked on by a
certain military contracted firm, which is the most well known
firms that make experimental aircraft. And I could I'll say
it that way with all that and actually mentioning their name,
and I think most people will know ex athlete what
I'm talking about when I say it, And that is
one of the firms that is located in this area,
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and I think it's probably the chief firm that's working
underground out there, with a number of other firms that
are there are support facilities working with them underground. Now
to go back not even a week ago, December twentieth,
when you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Say firms, are you talking those three.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We were driving away.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Wheremiah Jeremiah Jeremiah, Just real quick before you get into that,
when you say the firms, are you talking the CIA
N say the three how do you say it? The
three letter?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well? Yeah, now what you're talking about even more than that,
these these firms where the government got tricky or I
should say, anybody yet the Department of Defense got tricky
is during the high of the nuclear age, the army
was actually downsizing. So we're talking about post World War two,
so forty seven to the early fifties, and the in
down sizing, they were not pitted to spend a whole
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lot of money. So they didn't have the best thing
you like they did during World War Two. They didn't
have the best chemists, they didn't have the best biologists
working for uh, the Department Offense and the Army directly.
Uh So what they did and a lot of people
listening already know this, but what they did in short
was to subcontract to private firms, civilian firms, and those
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firms were given security clearance, which is probably the biggest
because those firms have actually been uh drunken or poisoned
by you could say they were made drunk by too
much power. Uh. They wielded all in the name of
national security. The phrase national security or and the name
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of national security is become the blank chap to get
their way for whatever they want to do. These are
the types are firms that are out there, including a
bio engineering firm that's underground and the whistleblowers that are
coming forward now are telling us a number of naming
a number of the firms that are out there, and
these guys are scared when you when you hear the
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fear that these people that are brave enough to come forward,
and a few of them came forward because of listening
to your show, Connie. So that's how crucial you have
investigative efforts from people. The show itself is because it's
bringing other people out who want to tell the truth.
In the case of the these firms that are out there,
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one of the chief forms of propulsion that seems to
be admitted by this particular firm that works on in
aeronautics specifically is plasma driven craft. So now to get
to quickly about the plasma. If you look at the
photographs that we took at the Sycamore Gap with Melinda Lesley,
we were looking west from the Sycamore Gap, which is
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to the northwest of town in a very very rugg
and remote area. It's very hard to get to. You
need a four wheel drive to get out there. We
knew the time that they're be coming up. We knew
that we would have a go advantage point out there.
We hadn't been out there before to watch for them.
But sure enough, almost right on time, we had set
up our chairs and here they come up over a
distant hill to the west, and they were coming up
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in pairs, which they so often do. Now when they
come up, we're looking at an amber color or a
reddish color. So now I'm not a scientist, but in
listening to some of the other scientists that are out
here and observing these things too, they're saying, yep, this
is definitely plasma. And you know how we know. They said,
plasma changes colors because of photons. The photons which were
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admitted when the electrons recombined with the ions, created the
wavelength of the photon, and that determines the color. Now
we're seeing this reddish hue or this amber hue, and
that's actually considered cool. So they've just taken off when
they're rising up from their launch sites, which is these
few sites that are their most vulnerable spot. It's the
most vrbable spot, of course, because they have to come
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up from underground somewhere to test these craft and put
them in the air. And I'll get to that later.
But the reddish shoe or the you've heard me say before,
the amber colors you like when you were here watching
with Melinda and Alexander and I from up near Jerome.
The red issue is most common, so that's what most
people are seeing the ambersview. That's actually cool temperatures for
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these plasma words. The photographs I sent you, you'll see
we zoomed on a couple of them. They kind of
look like the sun. Now, these people that are photographing
the orbs that seem to be interacting with some of
the drones or seeing the same sky that the drones
are being seen in New Jersey and other places in
the East Coast, they've got some really good high definition
photographs to them then, and they look like the sun.
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And that's because it's plasma. So the plasma itself when
it gets hot, so when these machines heat up, they
actually change color from this red to amber to their
hotter colors, which is actually blue. Now when they go
beyond the bluish queue and they're at their hottest, they
burn in a white and we see those here too,
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So you'll see in the photographs that I sent, which
you will put on your website, there's some blue streaks
because they're in motion. They move pretty fast. Yeah, that
are actually completely heated up after takeoff. The ones that's
just taken off, and again they're in pairs, so they'll
be like a point man followed by a wingman and
almost a tactical formation. These are the ones that are
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just heating up. But the hottest form of the plasma
is white, and if I remember correctly, I think that
the if I was to go to celsius, because that's
what most people were describing it. When it's amber, it's
about seven thousand degrees or several thousand degrees celsius. When
it gets to the white and blue and the other
very high heat, it's about tens of thousands of degrees celsius.
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So you can imagine the amount of power that these
things are putting off to take off. And this has
been what this firm is working on out there for
a long period of time. Now, if we go into
the background of it, people want to know why are
they here. Now there's a mixture that of two sources
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of the things that people see here in the Soun area,
there are genuine NHI or non human intelligent craft that
are being piloted here. They make up probably less than
ten percent of what people were seeing in the sky here.
The majority, about ninety percent or more, are actually advanced
test craft. So I took the initiative at one point
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and I sent an email I got a shot, it
just was shot in the dark to a very well
known Air Force intelligence man. I described where we were investigating,
where I've went, and where I've been investigating for the
past twelve years, and I asked him, simply, can you
help me out. I'm working on an investigation. It's a collaboration.
This is what we're seeing. We are quite certain that
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it is human pilot craft. Can you confirm or deny
that this is what this is? The gentleman was very kind.
He got back to me when I didn't think he would.
He said, give me about a month and I'll get
back to you. And I'm thinking of myself, of course,
and I just gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Be yeah, right, yeah, you know, government man.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Why should you bother talking to some jump in Sodona?
Exactly almost exactly four weeks and he said a very
brief femail and he said more or less that he
had done a detailed analysis of the area that we mentioned,
and I kind of gave a Boxton idea of the
area where most of these things are seen, so between
Williams and ash Fork, and then south of there to
the Megas Mountains, Chino Valley, Polden, and of course Sadona, Cottonwood,
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and Camp very Day. It encompasses an area probably if
you're just square it off about eleven hundred square miles
of area where this stuff is seen frequently. So he
gets back to me and he said, Okay, this area
is actually used by the US Air Force from Lived
Air Force Base. It's also used by the US Marine
Corps from Yuma. He said there are six military facilities
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within this area, and he said some of those facilities
are actually underground. So I was stunned that he was
actually telling you this. He's one of the complex complexes
is actually a munitions facility, which I'm pretty sure I
know which one that is, and that one is publicly known.
He said that the land mass which I refer to
is used by various US Army and Air Force units.
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Some of the units are from Fort Carson in Colorado.
You're in Colorado there. Some of them are Army National
Guard from Nevada, Utah, and of course Arizona. And then
he got really specifically said there's also some instruments that
are hidden here. One of them is called a TACAN,
which is a tactical air navigation antenna that's been in
this area for quite some time, and they also installed.
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Remember when you're up on the mountain with us looking
at these these craft coming off near Jerome, Well behind
that mountain town of Jerome is a device called a
d SARS, a Defense Series Advanced Radio system, and that
was installed in the forest up on the mountain behind Jerome.
And it's an incredible when you when you read about
what these things do, it's an incredible system and it
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allows these multi frequency radio transmissions by military units. And
end of course, course the government contracted engineers that are
out here with this test craft. He also told me
that from two thousand to twenty twenty one, there have
been thirty six UFO sidings in this area, and of
course there's been more than that, but what he's referring
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to is thirty six that have been actually officially reported
to the authorities. He said most of those are US
military advanced aircraft testing. He said there have been at
least six of those that were actually unidentified were actually
likely to be NHI non human intelligent pilot craft. He
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said that the area of roughly seventy five square miles
to one hundred miles within the area I refer to
is called the National Defense Zone or NDZ, and they
can close it when they're actually operating some of these
test flights, or they would call it activated. Of course,
now this man, again, I didn't expect that he was
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going to get back to me. He's very well known
as a career Air Force intelligence man, and I was
very grateful, you know, if he's listening again, I'm very
grateful for him to actually help us out. So again
there's one whistleblower, if you will, who simply communicate with
me from an email that I said and giving a
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pretty bold admission that there is underground facilities in this area.
But the most I think the most telling of them
are again the private engineering firm, so the bio firms,
the eraononics firms, they're all defense contracted companies. So the
next question, Connie, for a lot of people is probably
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why they're why it's in Sedona or around Sodona in
a touristed area.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, before you answer that, let's go back to what
you just talked about the guy had said to you
that he believes he told you, I think a percentage
even of what was not human, right he said that.
Now was he saying that as a matter of fact, casually,
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no big deal. Just oh and by the way, some
are non human.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It was just it was actually a very matter of
fact statement. And I think in one of the things
is to to be the hardest for people to believe.
In about two weeks time, it's said that there's going
to be some massive disclosure. And I can't confirm for
certain short that's to happen, but a lot of really,
really big sources are saying in about two weeks there's
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going to be a very very large disclosure event. Uh.
And it may include some of which uh we're talking
about now, which is some of these private firms that
are using reverse engineered alien craft now in the name
of our national defense in.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The next two weeks.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Again in the next two weeks, in the next two weeks.
That's that's the big word right now from a lot
of insiders is just wait, in two weeks time, there's
gonna be mind blowing disclosure. Now. I'm one of those
people out believe it when I see it because again.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
At the we've been hearing this all our life, right,
We've been hearing this a long time, Right, We've.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Been hearing that a long time. And in most cases
when they do have these hearings, you hear people talk
for four hour six hours. Some of it's behind closed doors,
some of it's actually televised, and it's the same talking
heads giving the same stuff. It's not really deep. It's
not what we want to hear, and people are tired
of that. People want the truth. Most people know deep
down that there's a lot more involved in all this,
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and our government's lying. They're lying about the firms that
are underground in certain areas, not just in Arizona, but
in others. They lie about Area fifty one for so
many years, and it wasn't until the federal government I
think it was in twenty thirteen actually had the gumps
and to come out admit, yes, Area fifty one does exist,
and yes we do test advanced tech craft there. And
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they didn't exactly thinking that when once they finally admitted,
people would let it alone.
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