September 13, 2025 • 16 mins
Guest host Richard Syrett and author Seann Aswell explore his story of discovering he was a reincarnated Chinese emperor in a relationship with his current girlfriend in a past life, how his girlfriend's fear of swimming is linked to her drowning death, and why they believe past life visions prove we are spiritual beings having a human experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Sean Aswell is co author of We Meet Again in
the Eternal. He's an engineer turned spiritual explorer whose life
transformed after a two thousand and nine encounter revealed his
past as China's Guangzhou Emperor. With Sarah Chao, his co
author and past life consort. He blends analytical rigor with
(00:28):
metaphysical inquiry, framing reincarnation as a process of debugging human consciousness.
Through historical research, dreams, and guidance from trans channeler Kevin Ryerson,
Sewn uncovers karmic ties and synchronicities that challenge our understanding
of identity and destiny. His work merges engineering logic with
(00:51):
spiritual wisdom, offering a fresh lens on love, karma, and
the eternal soul. Sean as Well, Welcome to Coast to Coast, AM.
How are you hey?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Doing good? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Great to have you here. So let's just dive right in.
You claim you were the Guangzhou Emperor and Sarah was
the Pearl concubine. First of all, just give us a
little history lesson here. Who was the Gangshu emperor and
who was the Pearl Concubine.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sure, so he was the next to the last emperor
of China, and he is pretty well known in Chinese
history among Asian people in general because the influence of
China at the time. But he died rather early and
(01:43):
Pearl Concubine was his consort, his most closest confidant, and
she actually died a bit earlier, So they were around
in the late eighteen hundreds until about to nineteen oh eight.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
All right, Now, was this, I don't know, initially like
a romantic fantasy or was there hard evidence you were
confronted with that sort of forced you to face this
unthinkable truth.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yes, yeah, there was a lot of forcing involved. I
hadn't really spent much time looking at reincarnation. Like a
lot of people, people that listen to the show, people
that are interested in some of these topics, you kind
of get a rough idea of what reincarnation is based on,
you know, sort of general Buddhist principles, but there wasn't
(02:41):
really much of a focus on it until I met Sarah.
We met at a workshop in Albuquerque, and it was
pretty clear shortly after meeting that we had a much
deeper connection and she together over a few day period
at that workshop, the story started to unfold and it took,
(03:07):
you know, quite a bit of research afterwards. But it
definitely was not something that either one of us were
looking for. We both had busy lives and I was
going off in a different direction. She was starting a
new life. It was not something we're looking for, but
apparently it was something we were meant to find.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What was this workshop? Was this related to your engineering
field or was this a workshop about reincarnation?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
What was it? Sure? No, it was a metaphysical workshop.
You're familiar with, say reiki?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh yes, yeah, energy ye, energy healing, There you go.
It was an energy healing technique similar to reiki. What
had happened I had been for about fifteen years, I
had been self employeed to in my own my own business,
and I was told by Hans King, who was a
guest on co for for a long time, that I
(04:02):
was going to write a book and that I would
know when the time was right. And it had gotten
to a point by two thousand and eight really that
I decided that I really need to I really need
to make a change in my life. Things were going well.
I was happy with my work, but I felt like
it was maybe maybe what Hans was saying was right.
It was time for me to make a change. So
(04:24):
shut down my business, got a cabin in North Carolina.
That workshop was the last workshop I was going to
go to before going to North Carolina to write a book.
And that's when we met.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So it was about Reichi and so Sarah came. You
had met, You had not met her before, you didn't
know about her before. It was like you brought you
together at this workshop, and how how did this start
to unfold? This you you were talking about, I mean,
how did this come to be that you learned that
(04:59):
you were both together in a previous lifetime, the emperor
and his concubine.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So I had flown in from Austin. She drove in
from Los Angeles, and we on the second day of
the workshop we met and it was, like I said,
pretty much an instant recognition. There was a lot of
familiarity between the two of us. We uh. We went
to a Vietnamese restaurant one day after the after the class,
(05:30):
and I was we were talking and I told her
that I used to I used to really like watching
The Last Emperor. Something about that movie, The Last Emperor
movie caught my attention, and I didn't know anything about
the time frame the history had, just the visual scenery it.
It caught my attention so much that I watched the
(05:52):
movie repeatedly. I mentioned that to it. It made her
very uncomfortable because back in the nineties, her Chi Gong
teacher had told her that she was the concubine, and
so she had been sitting on that for about ten
years and not really wanting to look at it. She
was a mother, she had a busy life. But when
we met it, it's she she started having dreams and
(06:14):
memories started coming back. I actually had a traumatic UH
had a dream also, UH that was related to that lifetime.
So just synchronicity brought us together. And then she started
remembering what Archie Gone teacher told her and started having dreams.
I had some some experiences as well, and I didn't
(06:35):
really know what to do with it, uh, And I
was really going to let it go until I found
a picture and I I uh that once seeing that
image one seeing that that portrait of Golan, it it
it hit me and I sent it to a few
people and to get some feedback, and they they suggested
(06:57):
that it it did look like me, and at a
decided to take it seriously and started doing some research
and which that ultimately led to Kevin Ryerson and Walter
sent to you, and this whole process that we went
through started at that point.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And we've posted pictures at the Coast to coastam dot
com website. I believe they're in the carousel there, Guangxi,
the emperor, the second to last emperor of China, along
with the pro concubine, and then next to each of
those there's a picture of you and then a picture
of Sarah. There's yeah, there's definitely some I mean it's
(07:37):
not exact, obviously, not carbon copies, but there there are
certain similarities in what was this dream that you had?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
This vision?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Can you share that with us?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Sure? So it was on the third, the third day
of the workshop, the last night, I will up in
the middle of the night in extreme emotional I had
a very emotional experience. I dreamed that someone drowned and
they were in a confined space and that it was
(08:13):
my fault and it was I don't normally remember my dreams,
and I definitely don't have a lot of emotion around it,
but it affected me so much. I was crying and
trying to cover my face with my pillow to make
sure I didn't disturb the people the people around. But
it was a very, very traumatic experience. I've never experienced
anything like that before. And I told Sir about it
(08:36):
the next day and she sort of dismissed it, just,
you know, oh, don't worry about it. People die all
the time. Later, it became clear that that was a
that was a memory, you could say, it's not a
soul memory of what happened Pearl. The Pearl concubine Sarah
(08:57):
was pushed into a well once she was present, and
he saw that happen, and it traumatized him. Uh he
she was his closest confidant and they had spent many
many years together and he saw her, you know, drowned basically,
and it really had a big impact on him. And
(09:18):
that that the memory of that, the emotion around all
of that came back to me one hundred years later,
and it was completely out of context. I didn't know
how to deal with it, and it didn't I didn't
know what it was at the time. Later, it's sort
of all fell into place, and then it became clear
that that's that happens probably to a lot of us,
(09:40):
and and where things come up and we don't have
any context for it, but it's it's very uh, you know,
it has a big impact on us, and and and
we don't always learn what it is, but sometimes, uh,
sometimes we do and it's it's it's pretty amazing how
how that works.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So at what point did you and Sarah admit to
each other that you were together in a previous life,
that you were the emperor and she was the pro concubine.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, that took some time, it was. I spent quite
a few, probably three months, doing a lot of research,
talked with a number of people. I found Kevin Ryerson,
I found Walter Simq's work, and they they've done. Walter
sim Q built on the work of Ian Stevenson, and
(10:34):
he showed that the physical resemblance from one lifetime to
another is does carry over quite often. And again it's
not always exact, but people often look very similar to
their previous incarnations. And so that caught my attention. But
(10:54):
what really did it was I ordered some books that
were written by someone who lived in the Forbid City.
Her name was Princess der Ling, and she documented her
two years of living there, a lot of the things
that happened. She had a lot of direct interaction with
the Emperor. And it's funny because when reading reading those books,
(11:16):
they were published back in the early nineteen hundreds. She
described someone that had very similar personality traits, a similar
sense of humor. He would joke around and do things
that are perfect mirrors for what I do, a lost
of personality. Well, you know, they would be doing something serious,
(11:37):
like there would be a big ceremony and everyone would
be gathered together and they would be waiting for, you know,
someone to come, and he would be like, oh, they're coming,
They're coming, and then you know they weren't really coming.
And it's little things, little personality quirks that and again interests. Also,
(11:58):
he had an interest in electricity, telegraph a number of
things that I actually spent my career doing. There were
a lot of little things that I noticed in researching
that that made it hard to dismiss. This is not
something I went looking for, and it was It took
a lot of convincing for me to accept it, and
(12:18):
once I finally did, then it became a process of
trying to understand, you know, how this actually works.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And and Sarah, she's not with us tonight. She again
the reincarnation of the Pearl concubine, you believe, and she
believes she met a rather gruesome end. She was drowned
in a well did that my understanding with past lives?
I mean that that the way that one dies in
a previous life can have serious impact on our present lives.
(12:47):
Is she afraid of the water today?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
She does? She have that focus? She is, Yeah, she
actually is afraid of afraid of swimming. When when she
was young, she grew up in Taiwan, Republic of China,
and they had swimming was like like many of us
here in the in the west to swimming was part
of part of your school gymnasium class. And she she
(13:13):
was petrified at swimming. Uh. It It took probably within
the last five years. We we actually went to a
to a pool where she could touch the bottom and
we we worked through her trauma. But it took it
took to this point in her life to get to
get to the point to where she could she could
actually swim without just feeling pannicky about about drownding, So that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Did how did m and how about the Guang She Emperor?
How did how did he meet his end?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, he was poisoned and similar similar situation in this life.
Shortly after moving to Austin for for unknown reasons. It
was unconscious. At first, I became I didn't want to
eat food that had been left unattended. So you know,
(14:08):
go to a restaurant, eat half of it, put in
the fridge, come back the next day, you know, you've
got dinner again. I noticed that I that I did
not want to eat food that had been left unattended.
Just happened spontaneously. It went on for a couple of years.
It actually took a while to notice the pattern, and
eventually I noticed, and it's like, where does this come from?
Shortly after beating Sarah, that just dropped it fell away,
(14:30):
and then it after learning that he was poisoned and
he knew he was being poisoned, then it made sense.
That was sort of an unconscious thing that popped up
in my life, completely out of context, not based on anything,
and after after we met, it just sort of naturally
fell away.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
We're heading into the bottom of the hour break here
in about a minute. But let me just get a
sense of who this Kevin Ryerson, gentleman is. This was
he conducting like past life regression sessions with your Who
was Kevin Ryerson?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Similar to Edgar Casey. He is a trance channel.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He's associated with the are E. Uh. He was in
He's probably most well known for his work with Sherman McClean.
He was in her movie. Uh. He's he's been around
for a very long time. And Uh, great guy and
I've I've learned a lot from not just the sessions
(15:32):
that I've had with him, but just learned about the
metaphysics and spirituality in general from him. He's a he's
a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And and so did did you undergo past life regressions
with with Kevin? Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
We we had sessions where his his guides would come through.
Again it's sort of like Edgar Casey. He would say
his guides would come through and they would give information
to myself to Sarah. So that's the way that he works.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
We didn't go through past life regressions. He doesn't do
that in particular. But we received so much, so much
information from Kevin and from Hans King that we didn't
feel the need to go through the typical past left
regression process.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Listen to more Coast to Coast a m. Every weeknight
at one a m. Eastern, and go to Coast to
coastam dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Sean Aswell is co author of We Meet Again in
the Eternal. He's an engineer turned spiritual explorer whose life
transformed after a two thousand and nine encounter revealed his
past as China's Guangzhou Emperor. With Sarah Chao, his co
author and past life consort. He blends analytical rigor with
(00:28):
metaphysical inquiry, framing reincarnation as a process of debugging human consciousness.
Through historical research, dreams, and guidance from trans channeler Kevin Ryerson,
Sewn uncovers karmic ties and synchronicities that challenge our understanding
of identity and destiny. His work merges engineering logic with
(00:51):
spiritual wisdom, offering a fresh lens on love, karma, and
the eternal soul. Sean as Well, Welcome to Coast to Coast, AM.
How are you hey?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Doing good? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Great to have you here. So let's just dive right in.
You claim you were the Guangzhou Emperor and Sarah was
the Pearl concubine. First of all, just give us a
little history lesson here. Who was the Gangshu emperor and
who was the Pearl Concubine.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sure, so he was the next to the last emperor
of China, and he is pretty well known in Chinese
history among Asian people in general because the influence of
China at the time. But he died rather early and
(01:43):
Pearl Concubine was his consort, his most closest confidant, and
she actually died a bit earlier, So they were around
in the late eighteen hundreds until about to nineteen oh eight.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
All right, Now, was this, I don't know, initially like
a romantic fantasy or was there hard evidence you were
confronted with that sort of forced you to face this
unthinkable truth.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yes, yeah, there was a lot of forcing involved. I
hadn't really spent much time looking at reincarnation. Like a
lot of people, people that listen to the show, people
that are interested in some of these topics, you kind
of get a rough idea of what reincarnation is based on,
you know, sort of general Buddhist principles, but there wasn't
(02:41):
really much of a focus on it until I met Sarah.
We met at a workshop in Albuquerque, and it was
pretty clear shortly after meeting that we had a much
deeper connection and she together over a few day period
at that workshop, the story started to unfold and it took,
(03:07):
you know, quite a bit of research afterwards. But it
definitely was not something that either one of us were
looking for. We both had busy lives and I was
going off in a different direction. She was starting a
new life. It was not something we're looking for, but
apparently it was something we were meant to find.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What was this workshop? Was this related to your engineering
field or was this a workshop about reincarnation?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
What was it? Sure? No, it was a metaphysical workshop.
You're familiar with, say reiki?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh yes, yeah, energy ye, energy healing, There you go.
It was an energy healing technique similar to reiki. What
had happened I had been for about fifteen years, I
had been self employeed to in my own my own business,
and I was told by Hans King, who was a
guest on co for for a long time, that I
(04:02):
was going to write a book and that I would
know when the time was right. And it had gotten
to a point by two thousand and eight really that
I decided that I really need to I really need
to make a change in my life. Things were going well.
I was happy with my work, but I felt like
it was maybe maybe what Hans was saying was right.
It was time for me to make a change. So
(04:24):
shut down my business, got a cabin in North Carolina.
That workshop was the last workshop I was going to
go to before going to North Carolina to write a book.
And that's when we met.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So it was about Reichi and so Sarah came. You
had met, You had not met her before, you didn't
know about her before. It was like you brought you
together at this workshop, and how how did this start
to unfold? This you you were talking about, I mean,
how did this come to be that you learned that
(04:59):
you were both together in a previous lifetime, the emperor
and his concubine.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So I had flown in from Austin. She drove in
from Los Angeles, and we on the second day of
the workshop we met and it was, like I said,
pretty much an instant recognition. There was a lot of
familiarity between the two of us. We uh. We went
to a Vietnamese restaurant one day after the after the class,
(05:30):
and I was we were talking and I told her
that I used to I used to really like watching
The Last Emperor. Something about that movie, The Last Emperor
movie caught my attention, and I didn't know anything about
the time frame the history had, just the visual scenery it.
It caught my attention so much that I watched the
(05:52):
movie repeatedly. I mentioned that to it. It made her
very uncomfortable because back in the nineties, her Chi Gong
teacher had told her that she was the concubine, and
so she had been sitting on that for about ten
years and not really wanting to look at it. She
was a mother, she had a busy life. But when
we met it, it's she she started having dreams and
(06:14):
memories started coming back. I actually had a traumatic UH
had a dream also, UH that was related to that lifetime.
So just synchronicity brought us together. And then she started
remembering what Archie Gone teacher told her and started having dreams.
I had some some experiences as well, and I didn't
(06:35):
really know what to do with it, uh, And I
was really going to let it go until I found
a picture and I I uh that once seeing that
image one seeing that that portrait of Golan, it it
it hit me and I sent it to a few
people and to get some feedback, and they they suggested
(06:57):
that it it did look like me, and at a
decided to take it seriously and started doing some research
and which that ultimately led to Kevin Ryerson and Walter
sent to you, and this whole process that we went
through started at that point.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And we've posted pictures at the Coast to coastam dot
com website. I believe they're in the carousel there, Guangxi,
the emperor, the second to last emperor of China, along
with the pro concubine, and then next to each of
those there's a picture of you and then a picture
of Sarah. There's yeah, there's definitely some I mean it's
(07:37):
not exact, obviously, not carbon copies, but there there are
certain similarities in what was this dream that you had?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
This vision?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Can you share that with us?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Sure? So it was on the third, the third day
of the workshop, the last night, I will up in
the middle of the night in extreme emotional I had
a very emotional experience. I dreamed that someone drowned and
they were in a confined space and that it was
(08:13):
my fault and it was I don't normally remember my dreams,
and I definitely don't have a lot of emotion around it,
but it affected me so much. I was crying and
trying to cover my face with my pillow to make
sure I didn't disturb the people the people around. But
it was a very, very traumatic experience. I've never experienced
anything like that before. And I told Sir about it
(08:36):
the next day and she sort of dismissed it, just,
you know, oh, don't worry about it. People die all
the time. Later, it became clear that that was a
that was a memory, you could say, it's not a
soul memory of what happened Pearl. The Pearl concubine Sarah
(08:57):
was pushed into a well once she was present, and
he saw that happen, and it traumatized him. Uh he
she was his closest confidant and they had spent many
many years together and he saw her, you know, drowned basically,
and it really had a big impact on him. And
(09:18):
that that the memory of that, the emotion around all
of that came back to me one hundred years later,
and it was completely out of context. I didn't know
how to deal with it, and it didn't I didn't
know what it was at the time. Later, it's sort
of all fell into place, and then it became clear
that that's that happens probably to a lot of us,
(09:40):
and and where things come up and we don't have
any context for it, but it's it's very uh, you know,
it has a big impact on us, and and and
we don't always learn what it is, but sometimes, uh,
sometimes we do and it's it's it's pretty amazing how
how that works.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So at what point did you and Sarah admit to
each other that you were together in a previous life,
that you were the emperor and she was the pro concubine.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, that took some time, it was. I spent quite
a few, probably three months, doing a lot of research,
talked with a number of people. I found Kevin Ryerson,
I found Walter Simq's work, and they they've done. Walter
sim Q built on the work of Ian Stevenson, and
(10:34):
he showed that the physical resemblance from one lifetime to
another is does carry over quite often. And again it's
not always exact, but people often look very similar to
their previous incarnations. And so that caught my attention. But
(10:54):
what really did it was I ordered some books that
were written by someone who lived in the Forbid City.
Her name was Princess der Ling, and she documented her
two years of living there, a lot of the things
that happened. She had a lot of direct interaction with
the Emperor. And it's funny because when reading reading those books,
(11:16):
they were published back in the early nineteen hundreds. She
described someone that had very similar personality traits, a similar
sense of humor. He would joke around and do things
that are perfect mirrors for what I do, a lost
of personality. Well, you know, they would be doing something serious,
(11:37):
like there would be a big ceremony and everyone would
be gathered together and they would be waiting for, you know,
someone to come, and he would be like, oh, they're coming,
They're coming, and then you know they weren't really coming.
And it's little things, little personality quirks that and again interests. Also,
(11:58):
he had an interest in electricity, telegraph a number of
things that I actually spent my career doing. There were
a lot of little things that I noticed in researching
that that made it hard to dismiss. This is not
something I went looking for, and it was It took
a lot of convincing for me to accept it, and
(12:18):
once I finally did, then it became a process of
trying to understand, you know, how this actually works.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And and Sarah, she's not with us tonight. She again
the reincarnation of the Pearl concubine, you believe, and she
believes she met a rather gruesome end. She was drowned
in a well did that my understanding with past lives?
I mean that that the way that one dies in
a previous life can have serious impact on our present lives.
(12:47):
Is she afraid of the water today?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
She does? She have that focus? She is, Yeah, she
actually is afraid of afraid of swimming. When when she
was young, she grew up in Taiwan, Republic of China,
and they had swimming was like like many of us
here in the in the west to swimming was part
of part of your school gymnasium class. And she she
(13:13):
was petrified at swimming. Uh. It It took probably within
the last five years. We we actually went to a
to a pool where she could touch the bottom and
we we worked through her trauma. But it took it
took to this point in her life to get to
get to the point to where she could she could
actually swim without just feeling pannicky about about drownding, So that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Did how did m and how about the Guang She Emperor?
How did how did he meet his end?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, he was poisoned and similar similar situation in this life.
Shortly after moving to Austin for for unknown reasons. It
was unconscious. At first, I became I didn't want to
eat food that had been left unattended. So you know,
(14:08):
go to a restaurant, eat half of it, put in
the fridge, come back the next day, you know, you've
got dinner again. I noticed that I that I did
not want to eat food that had been left unattended.
Just happened spontaneously. It went on for a couple of years.
It actually took a while to notice the pattern, and
eventually I noticed, and it's like, where does this come from?
Shortly after beating Sarah, that just dropped it fell away,
(14:30):
and then it after learning that he was poisoned and
he knew he was being poisoned, then it made sense.
That was sort of an unconscious thing that popped up
in my life, completely out of context, not based on anything,
and after after we met, it just sort of naturally
fell away.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
We're heading into the bottom of the hour break here
in about a minute. But let me just get a
sense of who this Kevin Ryerson, gentleman is. This was
he conducting like past life regression sessions with your Who
was Kevin Ryerson?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Similar to Edgar Casey. He is a trance channel.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He's associated with the are E. Uh. He was in
He's probably most well known for his work with Sherman McClean.
He was in her movie. Uh. He's he's been around
for a very long time. And Uh, great guy and
I've I've learned a lot from not just the sessions
(15:32):
that I've had with him, but just learned about the
metaphysics and spirituality in general from him. He's a he's
a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And and so did did you undergo past life regressions
with with Kevin? Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
We we had sessions where his his guides would come through.
Again it's sort of like Edgar Casey. He would say
his guides would come through and they would give information
to myself to Sarah. So that's the way that he works.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
We didn't go through past life regressions. He doesn't do
that in particular. But we received so much, so much
information from Kevin and from Hans King that we didn't
feel the need to go through the typical past left
regression process.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
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