August 21, 2024 • 19 mins
George Noory and paranormal investigator Eric Mintel discuss his career searching for bizarre creatures in the wild, including the Beast of Bray Road in Wisconsin, Bigfoot, and a strange encounter with a ghostly vision of a woman in the woods.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Eric Mantel with us acclaimed jazz musician with his group,
the Eric Mantel Quartet at Night. Eric Mantel Investigates the Paranormal.
Eric was invited to perform twice at the White House
for President Clinton back in nineteen ninety eight and for
then President Barack Obama in twenty eleven. Interested in the
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paranormal from a very young age, Eric has led the
Eric Mantel Investigates since twenty sixteen, seeking out strange stories
to tell, whether it's ghosts, UFO's Bigfoot, or even the
dog Man. Fans of his music have eagerly followed him
into the paranormal world as well, and on many investigations,
(00:49):
Eric and his team have gotten groundbreaking video and captured
strange pernormal activity. Eric, welcome back. Have you been hey, George?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'm doing great, man. You have to thank you for
having me back.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And you have a new book. I'll call it Eric
Mantel Investigates.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I know, man, I it was a long time coming.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It was yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Eric intelling investigates, casebook investigations, encounters, stories and other worldly
contact and other wise all the stuff, all the stuff
in that book is true. That you can't write this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It just happened and it all flows perfectly. I've got
your CD by the way, that you send along with
the book. You guys do a good job.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Thank you man. Well, I knew you were a jazz
fan too, so I said, I wanted to send that
to you. And yeah, we thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know, thirty one years as a band leader, I
always say in this this group of mine's been together
twenty of those years. I always say that to my audience.
We've been together longer than most marriages.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So how did we still like each other?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
How did you get involved in paranormal investigating from your
music career?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh? Man, you know, I being an only child, you know,
my father had so many stories as I was growing
up of things that he encountered and things here in
Bucks County, Pennsylvania, where where we're talking from. Bucks County
has a really rich history of a lot of paranormal activity,
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ghost stories, and even Bigfoot sightings and a lot of
UFO sightings as well. So I kind of grew up
with that and that was always in the background, like
always in the periphery. And then of course, you know,
when I was like fourteen, I found the music of
Dave Brubeck, and you know, usually other fourteen year old
kids were listening to heavy metal and whatnot. I'm listening
to day Brewed Beck, you know, Oscar Peterson and Duke
(02:43):
Gallington and all these great cats. And then went into
the jazz career, but always loved the paranormal and that
was I was something that was I was always fascinated with.
And like you said, in twenty sixteen, I was looking
at a lot of paranormal shows on TV. And I
had always been a filmmaker too. I was like film
and editing, and I said, you know, I could do that.
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I could probably do something like that. And we started
out as Bucks County Paranormal Investigations and quickly changed it
to Eric and Tell Investigates because we're doing a lot
of traveling all over the country and it's been an
incredible journey and we're only getting started. Just some of
the stuff that we've encountered is so we're still you know,
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wrapping our heads around.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you primarily investigate cryptids and creatures or do you
touch the ghost stories too?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh, George, we cover it all, man, it's everything. And
I worked with my He went to high school with me,
Dominic Seatel. He's our spirit medium, although in high school
I never knew he was a medium. You know, we
used to practice martial arts and stuff together, and we
worked on cars. I had like a seventy one Camaro.
He still has his nineteen eighty Firebird, and so we
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used to work on cars together. But when he came
back into the mix back in twenty seventeen, he said,
you know, I might be good on some of your
investigations because I'm a spirit medium. And I'm like, wait minute,
I never knew that. You never told me that. And
he has been great on it. It's like ninety nine
percent of the time, right on the money with a
lot of the stuff that like, I'll get a lot
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of the history from the people that are at these venues,
whether it's a bed and breakfast or a restaurant or
an inn, and I'll keep everything to myself as far
as the paranormal activity goes. And when he comes into
the location, he goes right to those hotspots. So it's
amazing to get that on camera and then we can
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confirm what he's sensing to what is actually going on
as well. So he's kind of giving us a preview
for what's going on and you know, in what we're
in store for. So it's been amazing, and we work
with Julie Krause, who is another psychic medium as well.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It looks like you've got about seventeen different stories in
this book. The Eric Mantel investigates where did you get them?
How did they come to you?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
They well, one was actually the very first story in
that is something that actually happened, and all of those
cases that are in the book are cases that we
have been asked to investigate. I have to make a
distinction that when I get people calling, like I get
a lot of people messaging me saying, you know, please
help us, our house is haunted and and things like that,
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I don't do that. We don't go into people's homes
and and exercise the demon, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But we will.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I will refer them to somebody that could go in
and you know, cleanse the house if need big, you know,
and and that's that way. But we are Basically, we're
kind of like a like a paranormal tourism and we're
we're going into a lot of these investigations and a
lot of those stories in the book are like bed
and breakfast. There was an inn, a seventeen fifty nine
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farmhouse that we investigated which has a business attached to it,
which is an architectural salvage company. And when we did
this investigation of this farmhouse, the woman in there said
that her, you know, that there was a spirit in
the that she felt in the home and she really
couldn't put her finger on it. She knew it was
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coming from the bedroom upstairs in one of these rooms,
and you know, so things like that, like we were
on the investigation and we're in the bedroom where she's
feeling this energy and she completely had a meltdown on
camera because it was like she got bum rushed by
the spirit that was in there. So things just and
like my show is completely unscripted. It's, you know, whatever
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whatever is going on, we're capturing that on video, whether
it's ghosts or when we were out in Elkhorn, Wisconsin
investigating the Beast of Prey Road and capturing what we
captured on video there and Bigfoot in the New Jersey
Pine barrens. So I captured what I did was in
the book. I kind of like reiterated and kind of
recap what those like in short form, what those investigations
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were like, and what actually happened on the on the
investigations and what we captured on video truly remarkable.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Have you ever been scared on a paranormal investigation?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know, it's it's funny. I just was talking to
somebody about this, and it's when we had the encounter
with the Beast of Bray Road now the Beast of
Bray Road for your listeners, and I'm sure they know this,
but it's a supposed to be an upright canine on
that walks on two legs and that has red glowing
eyes or yellow glowing eyes, and people have seen this
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for years. So when we're on that investigation, and I
had gone out there thinking that we weren't really going
to see anything. I just thought that we were going
to have, you know, great documentary. We're going to talk
to some great people and get this really great documentary happening,
never thinking once that we'd actually encountered this thing. And
the Night of October third. And I know I've said
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this before, but it's just some something that I'll never
forget because my whole world changed that night when we
heard this thing and that made a sound, that made
a howl, that sounded like a man screaming in this
field that we were in. It was this like low
guttural scream, growl yell combination. And the fear factor was
there of like what are we hearing? You know? It
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was like we were kind of stunned. And then what
really got me? And then what and again, George, we
had no protection either. We had like a flashlight and
a radio, that was it. But what really got me
was when Dominic said, and Dominic was with us on
this investigation as well, he said, shine the light over
to where we just heard the hell We shined it
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over into the corn and there's two yellow eyes about
seven feet up in the corn, darting back and forth, yeah,
looking at us, And like that was when I said, Okay,
we're out of here. I said, and was basically saying,
this is my territory. Get out of here. And so
we hopped on the four wheelers and got back up
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up to Lee Hample's farm and we got back to
the bar, and Lee couldn't believe we were back so soon.
But so things like that, you know, it's not so
much scared, it's like the the I guess you could
say it's scared, but I wasn't scared, per se. I
was more curious, like, you know, what is this thing?
What are we hearing? And you know, and you go
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to a point of like trying to figure out what
it is. And when you cross that one line where
you think, Okay, now we're getting into some territory. Who
knows what this thing is going to do. I'm not
going to go there because look again, we had nothing
to protect ourselves. And I've had other people call, you know,
message me and say you definitely need to get out there,
and next time you do that, you have to have protection.
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And so you know, it was just a crazy, crazy night.
And then after that, a week later, after that Elkhorne investigation,
we did the U Bigfoot in the New Jersey Pine
Barns because we were getting a lot of reports of
that bigfoot researcher that I know, Eric Spinner and his
partner aren't Mack. They do incredible research of bigfoot in
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the New Jersey Pine barons. No people will associate the
Pine barrens with the Jersey Devil, But the Jersey Devil
is I think is a misidentification of bigfoot because you know,
there's always been inconsistent reports with the Jersey Devil. It's
either a big wings type horse or you know, it
could be small as small as a turkey or as
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you know, like a medium sized dog. So the reports
are inconsistent sometimes. But people have been seeing these creatures
going in neighborhoods on two legs, getting the garbage and
bringing it back out into the woods. So there had
been and they range in sizes from like you know,
four and a half five feet seven feet, so there's
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been a lot of juvenile bigfoot sighting. So we went
down there and did an investigation, and again it was like, no,
sooner do we get there. Of twenty minutes into it,
we're getting whoops and hollers in the woods. And if
people know anything about the Pine barrens, it's thousands and
thousands of acres of just dnse bars. And we were
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about five miles in on the into the barrens, and
we got out of the truck and went about six
hundred yards into where we set up base camp, into
the woods in this area in the Wharton State Forest,
and I mean all hell broke loose, like twenty minutes later.
It was crazy, and we got these whoops on video
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and not and no disrespect to any of the bigfoot
researchers out there or anything like that. But when I
was watching those big foot shows back in the day
and I would hear these guys whooping and hollering for
these creatures, I would always have a little chuckle and say,
is that what they really sound like? But my whole
perspective changed that night when we heard when we heard
the same thing so and then and then Eric's wife
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answers it back, and they're having a conversation back and forth,
and you could hear it plain a day on our
video on our YouTube channel, and Eric and Tell investigates
it's called Pine Baron's Bigfoot. And then we did another
follow up last year as well. But so many things, George,
I mean, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm going to take a couple of stories from your book,
not all of them, because I want to leave something
left for the reader. Of course, tell us about Lady
in the Woods.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh, man, man, this is something that happened to me,
and I still, you know, can't believe it. So back
in I want to say November of nineteen ninety seven,
that's what it was. I was on my way to
a gig. And you know, we live here in Bucks
County and there's a lot of back roads and things
like that. So I'm on this back road in Bucks
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County going to this gig in Wycomb, Pennsylvania, and I
I'm traveling down this road and you know, it's fall
so it's dark, and I'm going at a pretty good
clip down this one road. It's called Pine Lane in Whitecomb.
So I'm going down. All of a sudden, a deer
runs down in front of me. Boom, and I hit
it and I was like, oh my god. So I
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slid with the deer. We're sliding probably about sixty feet
and came to a stop and I felt terrible. I
was like, oh my god, man, you know, I got
out of the car. I'm looking at this port thing
just hit it dead. And I'm looking at this thing.
And now I'm a piano player, you know, as as
jazz musician, and I'm looking at this thing and it's dark,
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and the lights are on it. From the car and
out of the woods. From behind me, I hear a
woman's voice say, house your hands. And I turned around
and here it was this one, this woman in white.
It was like floating like white robes and flowing ropes
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like that kind of thing. And she moved in front
of the car. And when she did you know, when
if you if someone was standing in front of the
car and you get like a silhouette of that person,
that's what she looked like, just this kind of blurred
image in front of the car. But what really got
me was when she bent down and took this two
hundred pound deer by the ear and dragged it off
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the road like it was like light as a feather,
and then turned around and said, you better get your
car and get off the road.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Did she look Did she look physical to you, Eric?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
She did.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It was a physical thing. It was a physical person.
And you know, the voice kind of cut through the
noise of the motor and all that kind of stuff,
and I just I got back in my car. I
didn't say a word, I didn't say anything. I just
kind of got in the car and I left and
I went that and I went to the gig and
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told the guys what happened. They were freaked out. I
went back the next day. The deer's gone, and I
was thinking to myself, well, maybe there's a house back here.
Maybe somebody was in the woods and they spooked the
steer out and that's why I hit it. But then
I went back to that that part of the road.
I was looking around. There was no houses anywhere. It
was all nothing but woods. There's houses now, you know
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since then that have been that have been built, but
but back then there was nothing there, and so it
was something I consider her my guardian angel. But here's
the thing, George, this is the most incredible thing. Now,
come to find out there is a lady in white
that has been seen in Bucks County that I didn't
even know about at that time. And I only found
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out about this, you know, maybe just a couple of
years ago. But but my father also had this this
encounter in the mid seventies and also here in Upper
in uh Bucks County, in Upper Black Eddy with the
same well I don't know it was the same thing,
but he you know, he uh. Let's state that my
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dad was a little bit of a partier in the seventies,
let's just put it that way. And he'd come home
late at night and it was about two in the morning.
He swears he was stone sober this night. And so
he's he's sitting on the front porch of our We
had like a little house, little apartment type house, and
there was we were on the bottom floor, there was
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a family on top floor. And we lived across the
street from the Delaware River, you know where Washington cross
the Delaware. So we're in upper Black. Eddy he's sitting
on the porch and he's cooking a steak on this
little grill, this little habachi grill, and he's looking at
the water, and all of a sudden he sees this
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white something or other on the water, and he's as
he's looking at it's floating down the river and he's looking.
It's about a half a mile away, and he's looking
at this thing and here it's he says, oh my god,
it so it looks like a woman all in white.
And then she turned her head and looked at him,
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and when she turned her head, her face came right
up to his form, like a quarter a mile away.
And then she turned back went and it went back
to the water and as she's got floating down the river,
she's saying, I'm going home, I'm going home. And he said,
you could hear these words echoing through the valley. Now
I asked him, even on his deathbed a couple of
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years ago, I said, Dad, is did that story? Did
that really happen? And he swears that it happened, And
so he had an encounter with her too, or something
of that nature. And I'm just getting goosebumps talking about
it because it was just, you know, that's something that
I had heard my entire life, and then they had
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that happen to me, which was which was really crazy.
And then also here in Bucks County there's a restaurant
called the Black Bess in there is a story in
there about a woman in white who was I guess
she found her husband cheating Back in eighteen hundreds, she
caught her husband cheating on her. She went out of
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killing the husband and the mistress and herself. And I'm
wondering if there's a connection there, so that we've been
looking into that as well.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Did she look angelic to you?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, you know a little bit. You know, in the book,
I put some pictures, and it was hard to describe
how to how she looked, but she did. And it
was more like it's hard to describe like how she
looked because it was it was a physical form, but
I couldn't see physical features. I could see the I
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could see the blurriness that the outline of this person
that was there, but it was it was more of
like an obscure kind of like physical form.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Eric Mantel with us acclaimed jazz musician with his group,
the Eric Mantel Quartet at Night. Eric Mantel Investigates the Paranormal.
Eric was invited to perform twice at the White House
for President Clinton back in nineteen ninety eight and for
then President Barack Obama in twenty eleven. Interested in the
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paranormal from a very young age, Eric has led the
Eric Mantel Investigates since twenty sixteen, seeking out strange stories
to tell, whether it's ghosts, UFO's Bigfoot, or even the
dog Man. Fans of his music have eagerly followed him
into the paranormal world as well, and on many investigations,
(00:49):
Eric and his team have gotten groundbreaking video and captured
strange pernormal activity. Eric, welcome back. Have you been hey, George?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'm doing great, man. You have to thank you for
having me back.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And you have a new book. I'll call it Eric
Mantel Investigates.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I know, man, I it was a long time coming.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It was yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Eric intelling investigates, casebook investigations, encounters, stories and other worldly
contact and other wise all the stuff, all the stuff
in that book is true. That you can't write this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It just happened and it all flows perfectly. I've got
your CD by the way, that you send along with
the book. You guys do a good job.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Thank you man. Well, I knew you were a jazz
fan too, so I said, I wanted to send that
to you. And yeah, we thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know, thirty one years as a band leader, I
always say in this this group of mine's been together
twenty of those years. I always say that to my audience.
We've been together longer than most marriages.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So how did we still like each other?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
How did you get involved in paranormal investigating from your
music career?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh? Man, you know, I being an only child, you know,
my father had so many stories as I was growing
up of things that he encountered and things here in
Bucks County, Pennsylvania, where where we're talking from. Bucks County
has a really rich history of a lot of paranormal activity,
(02:20):
ghost stories, and even Bigfoot sightings and a lot of
UFO sightings as well. So I kind of grew up
with that and that was always in the background, like
always in the periphery. And then of course, you know,
when I was like fourteen, I found the music of
Dave Brubeck, and you know, usually other fourteen year old
kids were listening to heavy metal and whatnot. I'm listening
to day Brewed Beck, you know, Oscar Peterson and Duke
(02:43):
Gallington and all these great cats. And then went into
the jazz career, but always loved the paranormal and that
was I was something that was I was always fascinated with.
And like you said, in twenty sixteen, I was looking
at a lot of paranormal shows on TV. And I
had always been a filmmaker too. I was like film
and editing, and I said, you know, I could do that.
(03:06):
I could probably do something like that. And we started
out as Bucks County Paranormal Investigations and quickly changed it
to Eric and Tell Investigates because we're doing a lot
of traveling all over the country and it's been an
incredible journey and we're only getting started. Just some of
the stuff that we've encountered is so we're still you know,
(03:26):
wrapping our heads around.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you primarily investigate cryptids and creatures or do you
touch the ghost stories too?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh, George, we cover it all, man, it's everything. And
I worked with my He went to high school with me,
Dominic Seatel. He's our spirit medium, although in high school
I never knew he was a medium. You know, we
used to practice martial arts and stuff together, and we
worked on cars. I had like a seventy one Camaro.
He still has his nineteen eighty Firebird, and so we
(03:58):
used to work on cars together. But when he came
back into the mix back in twenty seventeen, he said,
you know, I might be good on some of your
investigations because I'm a spirit medium. And I'm like, wait minute,
I never knew that. You never told me that. And
he has been great on it. It's like ninety nine
percent of the time, right on the money with a
lot of the stuff that like, I'll get a lot
(04:20):
of the history from the people that are at these venues,
whether it's a bed and breakfast or a restaurant or
an inn, and I'll keep everything to myself as far
as the paranormal activity goes. And when he comes into
the location, he goes right to those hotspots. So it's
amazing to get that on camera and then we can
(04:41):
confirm what he's sensing to what is actually going on
as well. So he's kind of giving us a preview
for what's going on and you know, in what we're
in store for. So it's been amazing, and we work
with Julie Krause, who is another psychic medium as well.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It looks like you've got about seventeen different stories in
this book. The Eric Mantel investigates where did you get them?
How did they come to you?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
They well, one was actually the very first story in
that is something that actually happened, and all of those
cases that are in the book are cases that we
have been asked to investigate. I have to make a
distinction that when I get people calling, like I get
a lot of people messaging me saying, you know, please
help us, our house is haunted and and things like that,
(05:29):
I don't do that. We don't go into people's homes
and and exercise the demon, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But we will.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I will refer them to somebody that could go in
and you know, cleanse the house if need big, you know,
and and that's that way. But we are Basically, we're
kind of like a like a paranormal tourism and we're
we're going into a lot of these investigations and a
lot of those stories in the book are like bed
and breakfast. There was an inn, a seventeen fifty nine
(05:59):
farmhouse that we investigated which has a business attached to it,
which is an architectural salvage company. And when we did
this investigation of this farmhouse, the woman in there said
that her, you know, that there was a spirit in
the that she felt in the home and she really
couldn't put her finger on it. She knew it was
(06:19):
coming from the bedroom upstairs in one of these rooms,
and you know, so things like that, like we were
on the investigation and we're in the bedroom where she's
feeling this energy and she completely had a meltdown on
camera because it was like she got bum rushed by
the spirit that was in there. So things just and
like my show is completely unscripted. It's, you know, whatever
(06:41):
whatever is going on, we're capturing that on video, whether
it's ghosts or when we were out in Elkhorn, Wisconsin
investigating the Beast of Prey Road and capturing what we
captured on video there and Bigfoot in the New Jersey
Pine barrens. So I captured what I did was in
the book. I kind of like reiterated and kind of
recap what those like in short form, what those investigations
(07:06):
were like, and what actually happened on the on the
investigations and what we captured on video truly remarkable.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Have you ever been scared on a paranormal investigation?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know, it's it's funny. I just was talking to
somebody about this, and it's when we had the encounter
with the Beast of Bray Road now the Beast of
Bray Road for your listeners, and I'm sure they know this,
but it's a supposed to be an upright canine on
that walks on two legs and that has red glowing
eyes or yellow glowing eyes, and people have seen this
(07:39):
for years. So when we're on that investigation, and I
had gone out there thinking that we weren't really going
to see anything. I just thought that we were going
to have, you know, great documentary. We're going to talk
to some great people and get this really great documentary happening,
never thinking once that we'd actually encountered this thing. And
the Night of October third. And I know I've said
(08:01):
this before, but it's just some something that I'll never
forget because my whole world changed that night when we
heard this thing and that made a sound, that made
a howl, that sounded like a man screaming in this
field that we were in. It was this like low
guttural scream, growl yell combination. And the fear factor was
there of like what are we hearing? You know? It
(08:23):
was like we were kind of stunned. And then what
really got me? And then what and again, George, we
had no protection either. We had like a flashlight and
a radio, that was it. But what really got me
was when Dominic said, and Dominic was with us on
this investigation as well, he said, shine the light over
to where we just heard the hell We shined it
(08:45):
over into the corn and there's two yellow eyes about
seven feet up in the corn, darting back and forth, yeah,
looking at us, And like that was when I said, Okay,
we're out of here. I said, and was basically saying,
this is my territory. Get out of here. And so
we hopped on the four wheelers and got back up
(09:06):
up to Lee Hample's farm and we got back to
the bar, and Lee couldn't believe we were back so soon.
But so things like that, you know, it's not so
much scared, it's like the the I guess you could
say it's scared, but I wasn't scared, per se. I
was more curious, like, you know, what is this thing?
What are we hearing? And you know, and you go
(09:27):
to a point of like trying to figure out what
it is. And when you cross that one line where
you think, Okay, now we're getting into some territory. Who
knows what this thing is going to do. I'm not
going to go there because look again, we had nothing
to protect ourselves. And I've had other people call, you know,
message me and say you definitely need to get out there,
and next time you do that, you have to have protection.
(09:49):
And so you know, it was just a crazy, crazy night.
And then after that, a week later, after that Elkhorne investigation,
we did the U Bigfoot in the New Jersey Pine
Barns because we were getting a lot of reports of
that bigfoot researcher that I know, Eric Spinner and his
partner aren't Mack. They do incredible research of bigfoot in
(10:14):
the New Jersey Pine barons. No people will associate the
Pine barrens with the Jersey Devil, But the Jersey Devil
is I think is a misidentification of bigfoot because you know,
there's always been inconsistent reports with the Jersey Devil. It's
either a big wings type horse or you know, it
could be small as small as a turkey or as
(10:35):
you know, like a medium sized dog. So the reports
are inconsistent sometimes. But people have been seeing these creatures
going in neighborhoods on two legs, getting the garbage and
bringing it back out into the woods. So there had
been and they range in sizes from like you know,
four and a half five feet seven feet, so there's
(10:57):
been a lot of juvenile bigfoot sighting. So we went
down there and did an investigation, and again it was like, no,
sooner do we get there. Of twenty minutes into it,
we're getting whoops and hollers in the woods. And if
people know anything about the Pine barrens, it's thousands and
thousands of acres of just dnse bars. And we were
(11:19):
about five miles in on the into the barrens, and
we got out of the truck and went about six
hundred yards into where we set up base camp, into
the woods in this area in the Wharton State Forest,
and I mean all hell broke loose, like twenty minutes later.
It was crazy, and we got these whoops on video
(11:42):
and not and no disrespect to any of the bigfoot
researchers out there or anything like that. But when I
was watching those big foot shows back in the day
and I would hear these guys whooping and hollering for
these creatures, I would always have a little chuckle and say,
is that what they really sound like? But my whole
perspective changed that night when we heard when we heard
the same thing so and then and then Eric's wife
(12:06):
answers it back, and they're having a conversation back and forth,
and you could hear it plain a day on our
video on our YouTube channel, and Eric and Tell investigates
it's called Pine Baron's Bigfoot. And then we did another
follow up last year as well. But so many things, George,
I mean, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm going to take a couple of stories from your book,
not all of them, because I want to leave something
left for the reader. Of course, tell us about Lady
in the Woods.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh, man, man, this is something that happened to me,
and I still, you know, can't believe it. So back
in I want to say November of nineteen ninety seven,
that's what it was. I was on my way to
a gig. And you know, we live here in Bucks
County and there's a lot of back roads and things
like that. So I'm on this back road in Bucks
(12:56):
County going to this gig in Wycomb, Pennsylvania, and I
I'm traveling down this road and you know, it's fall
so it's dark, and I'm going at a pretty good
clip down this one road. It's called Pine Lane in Whitecomb.
So I'm going down. All of a sudden, a deer
runs down in front of me. Boom, and I hit
it and I was like, oh my god. So I
(13:17):
slid with the deer. We're sliding probably about sixty feet
and came to a stop and I felt terrible. I
was like, oh my god, man, you know, I got
out of the car. I'm looking at this port thing
just hit it dead. And I'm looking at this thing.
And now I'm a piano player, you know, as as
jazz musician, and I'm looking at this thing and it's dark,
(13:41):
and the lights are on it. From the car and
out of the woods. From behind me, I hear a
woman's voice say, house your hands. And I turned around
and here it was this one, this woman in white.
It was like floating like white robes and flowing ropes
(14:02):
like that kind of thing. And she moved in front
of the car. And when she did you know, when
if you if someone was standing in front of the
car and you get like a silhouette of that person,
that's what she looked like, just this kind of blurred
image in front of the car. But what really got
me was when she bent down and took this two
hundred pound deer by the ear and dragged it off
(14:23):
the road like it was like light as a feather,
and then turned around and said, you better get your
car and get off the road.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Did she look Did she look physical to you, Eric?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
She did.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It was a physical thing. It was a physical person.
And you know, the voice kind of cut through the
noise of the motor and all that kind of stuff,
and I just I got back in my car. I
didn't say a word, I didn't say anything. I just
kind of got in the car and I left and
I went that and I went to the gig and
(14:56):
told the guys what happened. They were freaked out. I
went back the next day. The deer's gone, and I
was thinking to myself, well, maybe there's a house back here.
Maybe somebody was in the woods and they spooked the
steer out and that's why I hit it. But then
I went back to that that part of the road.
I was looking around. There was no houses anywhere. It
was all nothing but woods. There's houses now, you know
(15:19):
since then that have been that have been built, but
but back then there was nothing there, and so it
was something I consider her my guardian angel. But here's
the thing, George, this is the most incredible thing. Now,
come to find out there is a lady in white
that has been seen in Bucks County that I didn't
even know about at that time. And I only found
(15:40):
out about this, you know, maybe just a couple of
years ago. But but my father also had this this
encounter in the mid seventies and also here in Upper
in uh Bucks County, in Upper Black Eddy with the
same well I don't know it was the same thing,
but he you know, he uh. Let's state that my
(16:02):
dad was a little bit of a partier in the seventies,
let's just put it that way. And he'd come home
late at night and it was about two in the morning.
He swears he was stone sober this night. And so
he's he's sitting on the front porch of our We
had like a little house, little apartment type house, and
there was we were on the bottom floor, there was
(16:23):
a family on top floor. And we lived across the
street from the Delaware River, you know where Washington cross
the Delaware. So we're in upper Black. Eddy he's sitting
on the porch and he's cooking a steak on this
little grill, this little habachi grill, and he's looking at
the water, and all of a sudden he sees this
(16:43):
white something or other on the water, and he's as
he's looking at it's floating down the river and he's looking.
It's about a half a mile away, and he's looking
at this thing and here it's he says, oh my god,
it so it looks like a woman all in white.
And then she turned her head and looked at him,
(17:04):
and when she turned her head, her face came right
up to his form, like a quarter a mile away.
And then she turned back went and it went back
to the water and as she's got floating down the river,
she's saying, I'm going home, I'm going home. And he said,
you could hear these words echoing through the valley. Now
I asked him, even on his deathbed a couple of
(17:25):
years ago, I said, Dad, is did that story? Did
that really happen? And he swears that it happened, And
so he had an encounter with her too, or something
of that nature. And I'm just getting goosebumps talking about
it because it was just, you know, that's something that
I had heard my entire life, and then they had
(17:46):
that happen to me, which was which was really crazy.
And then also here in Bucks County there's a restaurant
called the Black Bess in there is a story in
there about a woman in white who was I guess
she found her husband cheating Back in eighteen hundreds, she
caught her husband cheating on her. She went out of
(18:08):
killing the husband and the mistress and herself. And I'm
wondering if there's a connection there, so that we've been
looking into that as well.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Did she look angelic to you?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, you know a little bit. You know, in the book,
I put some pictures, and it was hard to describe
how to how she looked, but she did. And it
was more like it's hard to describe like how she
looked because it was it was a physical form, but
I couldn't see physical features. I could see the I
(18:42):
could see the blurriness that the outline of this person
that was there, but it was it was more of
like an obscure kind of like physical form.
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