July 28, 2025 • 17 mins
Guest Host George Knapp and Director of The Aetherius Society Paul Nugent will discuss his recent book Maya Mire: A Spiritual Journey into Cosmic Truth and the Dawning of a New World. They discuss UFO experiences and the later years of founder of The Aetherius Society George King's life and take listener calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Paul Nugent, as you declared, as you describe in your book,
Eventually doctor George King moves to the US tries to
spread his message here while retaining his followers in the
UK and elsewhere. He lives fairly modestly. There's no big mansion,
no fancy sports cars, any of that kind of stuff.
In nineteen ninety seven he died. You had been here
(00:26):
for a number of years, maybe his closest aid, closest confidant,
and you were in the room and with him when
he passed. What was going through your head at that time?
Did you think the ethereous society is not going to
be able to survive this?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No? I never thought that, George. I was one of
three aides who was with doctor George King at that
time in the latter years of his life. And I'm
one of eight. I still am the director. I'm one
of eight international directors. Are an international organization. Uh And
(01:02):
as I say, we've we've we've actually sort of grown
and flourished in the years following doctor George King's passing,
not by any means because of myself or any one
individual for that matter. It's because it's on the strength
and the profundity of of not only the teachings which
George King brought through, but the ways in which we
(01:25):
are still cooperating, actively cooperating to this very day with
what we call cosmic masters, I mean, being from other worlds.
There is a very active cosmic plan still taking place,
and the etherialst Society is is very central in its
(01:47):
work and its missions in that regard. In terms of
what was going through my head at the time of
doctor King's passing, it was it was a very pivotal moment.
I knew it to be. I mean, I don't want
to get sound too dramatic, but knowing what I did
(02:07):
know about Dr George King, it was kind of a
biblical moment.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It was huge.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It was monumental for humanity. The passing of George King
was not just a mental channel, communications channel for these
intelligences from a from another world, from beyond this world.
He was also one of three cosmic adepts who took
(02:38):
on an earth physical body. This was he never this
was never revealed during his own lifetime. The people around
him knew that because of some of the exploits that
he had taken place when he was in a positive
yoga somatic trance leaving his body. He was one of
three adepts we didn't publicly reveal until his biography came
(03:02):
out entitled The King Who Came to Earth in twenty nineteen.
But we were losing the world was losing a great
cosmic adept and it was a very But for me
it was a tremendous release because taking care of George
King was not easy. In you know, one knew that
(03:26):
one had someone extremely rare, extremely precious, you could say,
it's not the right word. And so it was a
tremendous relief when it was all over. It was in
a way it was a sense of freedom, but I knew,
you know, far more importantly, this is when the real
work begins. This is the you know, when the e
(03:49):
Theorist Society it has to go out into the world,
not that we hadn't and share this message. And it's
a major reason why I've written a book where the
biography was written. There's a major documentary being made because
for the most part, you know, people haven't heard of
(04:11):
the Ethereous Society, but you know, great things come from this,
from the small beginnings, from the small seeds. It's and
hopefully it will become. Well, it is already a worldwide organization,
but it's not commonly known because people on the whole
haven't really understood, don't know about it, and haven't really
understood it. But it is a profound message.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, you know, maybe the timing is right. I'm speaking
in this context and I don't know if you've seen
this story, but over the past couple of days a
story came out of Swedish astronomer who's been my guest
on this program. Doctor Beatrice Villarreal, had been studying photographic
plates of the night sky, plates that have been preserved
(04:57):
in astronomy places like her over the years, and had
noticed some anomalies. This is a photographs taken of the
sky pre spunning, so there's no satellites up there, and
there are objects that are there in one shot and
gone the next. And her theory is that there is
a network of satellites from somewhere else that have been
(05:19):
circling the Earth kind of keeping an eye on us.
And that's part of your story too. You have a
satellite that's up there, a Satellite three. I think you
call it in the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Book Light number three very much so. I mean the
Etherio Society first learned what we call satellite number three
in May of nineteen fifty five, and it's a craft
that comes into orbit of Earth, has done ever since
nineteen fifty five at regular intervals. It's primary purpose, at
(05:52):
least our understanding of its primary purpose, is to enhance
I mean, it's incredibly clever, but we've got to understand
that these intelligence is ah far more advanced and evolved,
not just spiritually but technologically than ourselves. You know, they've
got incredible instrumentation. And it's the primary purpose of satellite
(06:13):
number three is to enhance all spiritual action that is
taking place on Earth by any whether it's an individual,
whether it's a group, whatever it may be. It's enhanced
because the whole I mean one has to sort of,
you know, read the book to fully understand the picture.
(06:33):
But it all goes back to Maldek. Maldeck should never
have happened. The Earth. This Earth has been withholding herself,
but she can only do that for a certain period
of time because this whole Solar system, this whole galaxy
is moving at accelerating speed as part of the supercluster
of galaxies Laniakea. The Solar system was slowed down as
(06:57):
a consequence of the destruction of Maldec. You know, we
don't know this, we don't see this, we don't understand it.
But it's the greater picture. It's the bigger picture. This
Solar system was handicapped as a consequence of the destruction
of Maldek. The Earth can only withhold herself for a
certain period of time. In nineteen sixty four, and this
(07:19):
is central to the whole sort of teachings communicated through
doctor George King, the Earth was given a tremendous infusion
of energy in nineteen sixty four. That is what this
quickening that we're experiencing is all about. The Earth is changing,
The planet is changing, the Mother Earth is changing. There's
a quickening going on. Humanity, dumb and as backward as
(07:42):
we are, needs to sort of come into a greater
alignment with that. And these cosmic masters are helping us
in various ways, one of which is the orbiting of
satellite number three, as they say, enhancing all spiritual activity.
It's giving us a boost if you like, it's helping
(08:03):
us to come into a greater spiritual awakening, a greater
spiritual alignment as part of this quickening that's taking place.
So yes, I mean, you know, there's far more going
on and has been going on than we realize in
that greater cosmic sphere.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So the punchline I left off in talking about this
study of the night sky and these photo plates from
the fifties is that they seem to these objects, these
mystery objects would show up in greater correlation at the
time of nuclear tests above ground nuclear tests, which I know, yes,
is of interest to you. I'll send that to you. Yeah,
and you can take a look at it. But I
(08:45):
think you'd find out of great interest.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Let's take Thank you, George, because again that sort of
hole it ties in with humans. You've been there before.
Knock it was a very big part of that of
the early message through doctor George King was knock it off.
You guys don't know what you're doing with that stuff exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's the why I thought you'd find it of interest.
We're going to East of the Rockies, thea in Wisconsin.
Good morning, you're on with Paul Nugent.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh, good morning, gentlemen. Paul I just have a comment.
When you were talking about doctor King hearing a voice
saying that he was going to be the leader of
the Interplanetary Council the Boys, that reminds me of Stayton
(09:34):
attempting Christ taking him up the mountain and saying you
can rule over the Earth if you follow me.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well, I can assow you that it was not that
in this particular case that I mean, jokes of George
King was what was one he was he was told
he's not the only person who will be contacted by
extraterrestrial intelligence. But because of his ability to be able
(10:07):
to you know, I'm sure that telepathy is something that
we're all capable of. But when you elevate your mind
that very high state of consciousness what is called Samadi
in the East, your mind is much more capable of
receiving a higher frequency of communication, and that that was
(10:30):
what George King was able to do. But I can
assure you that there was nothing sort of demonic about it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Thanks for the call. West of the Rockies. Marcia in
Los Gatos, Good morning, Marcia, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Good morning George. Nice to hear your voice. Thank you,
And yes, I have a question for Paul Nugent as
someone who knows a lot about the seal, I guess
can you tell me your experience with the blue pearl
that's talked about in Hawk the yoga, and if you
could keep me on the shns, I could hear the
(11:05):
answers appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well, Marsha, I can't do anything I know about. When
you say blue Parle, I'm not familiar with that, but
I know that people have seen these sort of blue
specs that did it do indicate that a higher intelligence's presence,
But in terms of the blue pile, I'm afraid I
(11:30):
can't help you. I'm sorry to say.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Thanks for the call, Marsha. You know, Paul, I recall
reading about George Harrison, who was a very spiritual guys musician.
Of course one of the Beatles, and his family was
with him when he passed, and they haven't been explicit
about what they saw, but they said there was something
remarkable and visual that happened when he left his body.
(11:54):
I wonder if there was anything like that that you
noticed when doctor King passed away.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
No, it was very serene energy, but nothing in terms
of not that we noticed. I mean, it was we
were in in in the house and it was you know,
four forty eight a m in pitch dark outside, so
nothing nothing. We weren't looking out or looking up or
anything like that. It was just a very serene energy.
(12:22):
It was except you know something that will never that
I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Did anyone else since his passing step into that void
and become the communicator, the vessel through which whoever they
are send messages.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, because again none of us have sort of sufficiently
disciplined and trained ourselves to be get to go into
a positive yogic somatic trance. I mean, it does take
tremendous discipline and will power h and as I say,
none of us have been able to do that. So no,
(12:59):
we have not, you know, received any such messages.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You hint in the book about some remarkable experiences that
you had. I mean, you're not doctor George King, but
you lived with them, you were there and around them,
and some things happened to you that were hard to explain.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That is? I mean you mentioned that I was a
personal assistant to him in Santa Barbara in the latter
years of his life. I was, and I just I remember,
I mean, one of those instances was I could hear
that he was He had a mechanical bed. I could
hear the bed being raised. He was very frail in
(13:36):
his latter years, and you know, I was waiting for
the buzzer for him to beat, for me to go
and help him get out, get out of bed. He
didn't beep, uh, and I was, you know, surprised. And
then I actually physically saw him going. I cracked open
my bedroom window. I was sort of further down down
(13:58):
a passageway in the house, and I saw him going
into the bathroom. Well, this was just extremely unusual because
he never did this without one of us assisting him,
and that was just strange. And I lay on my
bed sort of wondering what this was about. And then
I hurt could hear him coming out of the bathroom,
(14:19):
coming down the passageway. I was sure he was just
going to come into my room, not come straight in,
and he didn't, and instead I could feel him passing
down the passageway and as they did so, my whole
body became paralyzed. And then he moved down the passageway,
returned back from the way he'd come again as he
(14:41):
passed by, I became totally paralyzed, utterly rigid, couldn't move
a muscle. He did this three times, back and forth,
up and down the passageway. My assumption is that he
was in communication with it, with a higher intelligence, and
the last thing he wanted was that when he barging
in or any any interruptions, So he rendered me temporarily immobile.
(15:05):
And this was when he was, ay, you know, towards
the end of his life. He was very, very frail.
But you know, that was the kind of experience one
could have, and we never spoke about it. I mean,
you know, I respected his privacy and I mean I
could have asked, but I didn't, you know, because I knew,
I knew who he was and the kind of you know,
(15:27):
communication that that he had, that was one such experience.
Did you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Did he continue to have these kind of communications right
up to the end or did he peek at some
point and then they sort of dwindled down?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, it changed as if he going into a positive
yoga smotic trance is incredibly difficult, and he did it
over six hundred times. After that, he would have what
we call a mental communication, a telepathic communication, which he
would communicate into a handheld tape recorder, and so that
(16:06):
is what he would do, certainly in the latter years
of his life.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And so you said that earlier, that recordings are pretty
much uploaded to the cloud and that people can hear them.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Some of them are absolutely and many of them have
been transcribed in various books. I mean, I mentioned the
twelve blessings as given by Jesus in nineteen fifty eight,
and those, I mean can all be heard. They're all available.
You know you can hear these transmissions. It's why I
(16:43):
took to the e theorists, or rather why I investigated
it further, because you know, it's not just the fact,
oh this is Jesus, that anybody can sort of make
that claim, and on the face of it, it's an
outrageous and ridiculous claim. It was only by listening to
what was being said the communication itself, it was rigidly true.
(17:06):
It had the hallmark of truth running right through it,
and also profundity, giving this far greater cosmic concept to humanity.
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Paul Nugent, as you declared, as you describe in your book,
Eventually doctor George King moves to the US tries to
spread his message here while retaining his followers in the
UK and elsewhere. He lives fairly modestly. There's no big mansion,
no fancy sports cars, any of that kind of stuff.
In nineteen ninety seven he died. You had been here
(00:26):
for a number of years, maybe his closest aid, closest confidant,
and you were in the room and with him when
he passed. What was going through your head at that time?
Did you think the ethereous society is not going to
be able to survive this?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No? I never thought that, George. I was one of
three aides who was with doctor George King at that
time in the latter years of his life. And I'm
one of eight. I still am the director. I'm one
of eight international directors. Are an international organization. Uh And
(01:02):
as I say, we've we've we've actually sort of grown
and flourished in the years following doctor George King's passing,
not by any means because of myself or any one
individual for that matter. It's because it's on the strength
and the profundity of of not only the teachings which
George King brought through, but the ways in which we
(01:25):
are still cooperating, actively cooperating to this very day with
what we call cosmic masters, I mean, being from other worlds.
There is a very active cosmic plan still taking place,
and the etherialst Society is is very central in its
(01:47):
work and its missions in that regard. In terms of
what was going through my head at the time of
doctor King's passing, it was it was a very pivotal moment.
I knew it to be. I mean, I don't want
to get sound too dramatic, but knowing what I did
(02:07):
know about Dr George King, it was kind of a
biblical moment.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It was huge.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It was monumental for humanity. The passing of George King
was not just a mental channel, communications channel for these
intelligences from a from another world, from beyond this world.
He was also one of three cosmic adepts who took
(02:38):
on an earth physical body. This was he never this
was never revealed during his own lifetime. The people around
him knew that because of some of the exploits that
he had taken place when he was in a positive
yoga somatic trance leaving his body. He was one of
three adepts we didn't publicly reveal until his biography came
(03:02):
out entitled The King Who Came to Earth in twenty nineteen.
But we were losing the world was losing a great
cosmic adept and it was a very But for me
it was a tremendous release because taking care of George
King was not easy. In you know, one knew that
(03:26):
one had someone extremely rare, extremely precious, you could say,
it's not the right word. And so it was a
tremendous relief when it was all over. It was in
a way it was a sense of freedom, but I knew,
you know, far more importantly, this is when the real
work begins. This is the you know, when the e
(03:49):
Theorist Society it has to go out into the world,
not that we hadn't and share this message. And it's
a major reason why I've written a book where the
biography was written. There's a major documentary being made because
for the most part, you know, people haven't heard of
(04:11):
the Ethereous Society, but you know, great things come from this,
from the small beginnings, from the small seeds. It's and
hopefully it will become. Well, it is already a worldwide organization,
but it's not commonly known because people on the whole
haven't really understood, don't know about it, and haven't really
understood it. But it is a profound message.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, you know, maybe the timing is right. I'm speaking
in this context and I don't know if you've seen
this story, but over the past couple of days a
story came out of Swedish astronomer who's been my guest
on this program. Doctor Beatrice Villarreal, had been studying photographic
plates of the night sky, plates that have been preserved
(04:57):
in astronomy places like her over the years, and had
noticed some anomalies. This is a photographs taken of the
sky pre spunning, so there's no satellites up there, and
there are objects that are there in one shot and
gone the next. And her theory is that there is
a network of satellites from somewhere else that have been
(05:19):
circling the Earth kind of keeping an eye on us.
And that's part of your story too. You have a
satellite that's up there, a Satellite three. I think you
call it in the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Book Light number three very much so. I mean the
Etherio Society first learned what we call satellite number three
in May of nineteen fifty five, and it's a craft
that comes into orbit of Earth, has done ever since
nineteen fifty five at regular intervals. It's primary purpose, at
(05:52):
least our understanding of its primary purpose, is to enhance
I mean, it's incredibly clever, but we've got to understand
that these intelligence is ah far more advanced and evolved,
not just spiritually but technologically than ourselves. You know, they've
got incredible instrumentation. And it's the primary purpose of satellite
(06:13):
number three is to enhance all spiritual action that is
taking place on Earth by any whether it's an individual,
whether it's a group, whatever it may be. It's enhanced
because the whole I mean one has to sort of,
you know, read the book to fully understand the picture.
(06:33):
But it all goes back to Maldek. Maldeck should never
have happened. The Earth. This Earth has been withholding herself,
but she can only do that for a certain period
of time because this whole Solar system, this whole galaxy
is moving at accelerating speed as part of the supercluster
of galaxies Laniakea. The Solar system was slowed down as
(06:57):
a consequence of the destruction of Maldec. You know, we
don't know this, we don't see this, we don't understand it.
But it's the greater picture. It's the bigger picture. This
Solar system was handicapped as a consequence of the destruction
of Maldek. The Earth can only withhold herself for a
certain period of time. In nineteen sixty four, and this
(07:19):
is central to the whole sort of teachings communicated through
doctor George King, the Earth was given a tremendous infusion
of energy in nineteen sixty four. That is what this
quickening that we're experiencing is all about. The Earth is changing,
The planet is changing, the Mother Earth is changing. There's
a quickening going on. Humanity, dumb and as backward as
(07:42):
we are, needs to sort of come into a greater
alignment with that. And these cosmic masters are helping us
in various ways, one of which is the orbiting of
satellite number three, as they say, enhancing all spiritual activity.
It's giving us a boost if you like, it's helping
(08:03):
us to come into a greater spiritual awakening, a greater
spiritual alignment as part of this quickening that's taking place.
So yes, I mean, you know, there's far more going
on and has been going on than we realize in
that greater cosmic sphere.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So the punchline I left off in talking about this
study of the night sky and these photo plates from
the fifties is that they seem to these objects, these
mystery objects would show up in greater correlation at the
time of nuclear tests above ground nuclear tests, which I know, yes,
is of interest to you. I'll send that to you. Yeah,
and you can take a look at it. But I
(08:45):
think you'd find out of great interest.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Let's take Thank you, George, because again that sort of
hole it ties in with humans. You've been there before.
Knock it was a very big part of that of
the early message through doctor George King was knock it off.
You guys don't know what you're doing with that stuff exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's the why I thought you'd find it of interest.
We're going to East of the Rockies, thea in Wisconsin.
Good morning, you're on with Paul Nugent.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh, good morning, gentlemen. Paul I just have a comment.
When you were talking about doctor King hearing a voice
saying that he was going to be the leader of
the Interplanetary Council the Boys, that reminds me of Stayton
(09:34):
attempting Christ taking him up the mountain and saying you
can rule over the Earth if you follow me.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well, I can assow you that it was not that
in this particular case that I mean, jokes of George
King was what was one he was he was told
he's not the only person who will be contacted by
extraterrestrial intelligence. But because of his ability to be able
(10:07):
to you know, I'm sure that telepathy is something that
we're all capable of. But when you elevate your mind
that very high state of consciousness what is called Samadi
in the East, your mind is much more capable of
receiving a higher frequency of communication, and that that was
(10:30):
what George King was able to do. But I can
assure you that there was nothing sort of demonic about it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Thanks for the call. West of the Rockies. Marcia in
Los Gatos, Good morning, Marcia, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Good morning George. Nice to hear your voice. Thank you,
And yes, I have a question for Paul Nugent as
someone who knows a lot about the seal, I guess
can you tell me your experience with the blue pearl
that's talked about in Hawk the yoga, and if you
could keep me on the shns, I could hear the
(11:05):
answers appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well, Marsha, I can't do anything I know about. When
you say blue Parle, I'm not familiar with that, but
I know that people have seen these sort of blue
specs that did it do indicate that a higher intelligence's presence,
But in terms of the blue pile, I'm afraid I
(11:30):
can't help you. I'm sorry to say.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Thanks for the call, Marsha. You know, Paul, I recall
reading about George Harrison, who was a very spiritual guys musician.
Of course one of the Beatles, and his family was
with him when he passed, and they haven't been explicit
about what they saw, but they said there was something
remarkable and visual that happened when he left his body.
(11:54):
I wonder if there was anything like that that you
noticed when doctor King passed away.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
No, it was very serene energy, but nothing in terms
of not that we noticed. I mean, it was we
were in in in the house and it was you know,
four forty eight a m in pitch dark outside, so
nothing nothing. We weren't looking out or looking up or
anything like that. It was just a very serene energy.
(12:22):
It was except you know something that will never that
I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Did anyone else since his passing step into that void
and become the communicator, the vessel through which whoever they
are send messages.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, because again none of us have sort of sufficiently
disciplined and trained ourselves to be get to go into
a positive yogic somatic trance. I mean, it does take
tremendous discipline and will power h and as I say,
none of us have been able to do that. So no,
(12:59):
we have not, you know, received any such messages.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You hint in the book about some remarkable experiences that
you had. I mean, you're not doctor George King, but
you lived with them, you were there and around them,
and some things happened to you that were hard to explain.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That is? I mean you mentioned that I was a
personal assistant to him in Santa Barbara in the latter
years of his life. I was, and I just I remember,
I mean, one of those instances was I could hear
that he was He had a mechanical bed. I could
hear the bed being raised. He was very frail in
(13:36):
his latter years, and you know, I was waiting for
the buzzer for him to beat, for me to go
and help him get out, get out of bed. He
didn't beep, uh, and I was, you know, surprised. And
then I actually physically saw him going. I cracked open
my bedroom window. I was sort of further down down
(13:58):
a passageway in the house, and I saw him going
into the bathroom. Well, this was just extremely unusual because
he never did this without one of us assisting him,
and that was just strange. And I lay on my
bed sort of wondering what this was about. And then
I hurt could hear him coming out of the bathroom,
(14:19):
coming down the passageway. I was sure he was just
going to come into my room, not come straight in,
and he didn't, and instead I could feel him passing
down the passageway and as they did so, my whole
body became paralyzed. And then he moved down the passageway,
returned back from the way he'd come again as he
(14:41):
passed by, I became totally paralyzed, utterly rigid, couldn't move
a muscle. He did this three times, back and forth,
up and down the passageway. My assumption is that he
was in communication with it, with a higher intelligence, and
the last thing he wanted was that when he barging
in or any any interruptions, So he rendered me temporarily immobile.
(15:05):
And this was when he was, ay, you know, towards
the end of his life. He was very, very frail.
But you know, that was the kind of experience one
could have, and we never spoke about it. I mean,
you know, I respected his privacy and I mean I
could have asked, but I didn't, you know, because I knew,
I knew who he was and the kind of you know,
(15:27):
communication that that he had, that was one such experience.
Did you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Did he continue to have these kind of communications right
up to the end or did he peek at some
point and then they sort of dwindled down?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, it changed as if he going into a positive
yoga smotic trance is incredibly difficult, and he did it
over six hundred times. After that, he would have what
we call a mental communication, a telepathic communication, which he
would communicate into a handheld tape recorder, and so that
(16:06):
is what he would do, certainly in the latter years
of his life.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And so you said that earlier, that recordings are pretty
much uploaded to the cloud and that people can hear them.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Some of them are absolutely and many of them have
been transcribed in various books. I mean, I mentioned the
twelve blessings as given by Jesus in nineteen fifty eight,
and those, I mean can all be heard. They're all available.
You know you can hear these transmissions. It's why I
(16:43):
took to the e theorists, or rather why I investigated
it further, because you know, it's not just the fact,
oh this is Jesus, that anybody can sort of make
that claim, and on the face of it, it's an
outrageous and ridiculous claim. It was only by listening to
what was being said the communication itself, it was rigidly true.
(17:06):
It had the hallmark of truth running right through it,
and also profundity, giving this far greater cosmic concept to humanity.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
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