March 13, 2025 • 17 mins
George Noory and researcher Stafford Betty explore the evidence of the afterlife, why so many educated people who doubt there is life after death are wrong, and the deathbed vision of Apple computer icon Steve Jobs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,
Stafford Betty back with us. As an afterlife researcher, novelist,
and Emeridis University professor of religious Studies, Stafford believes it's
natural for all of us to give the afterlife some
thought and says that materialists who deny its existence are
down right wrong. Stafford, welcome back. Have you been I've
(00:28):
been fine.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's a little late, but I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're going to keep you awake for two hours.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I appreciate that you get it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Guardians of the Afterworld. That was your last latest book, right,
that's correct. It's darn goodwin. Everybody keeps talking about it
when you're on the show with my buddy George knapback
in February. Oh yeah, I can't believe it. Years gone
by already true. How did you get interested in the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, I have been basically a curious person all my life,
and as a kid going to a Catholic school, belief
in a nafurlife pregatory in particular was really drummed into
me and it became something even something that I worried
(01:18):
about a little bit as I was ten years old
and I was being in a wonder what is it
really like? Is it really as bad as I've been told?
So I think it went way back to my beginnings,
and I've been wondering about what's over there ever since.
Of course, I've justoned everything that Nune told me and
have done my own research and come to my own conclusions.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
My parents taught me about the afterlife. I believed in that.
I was raised Catholic, went to Catechism classes and things
like that. But jump ahead years. A few years ago,
I had a friend of my died in a motorcycle accident,
tragic and at the funeral, I'm looking at his corpse
stafford in the coffin, and he looked so plastic and
(02:05):
so artificial the way they hadn't made up because it
was really a tragic accident. But for a split second,
as I'm looking at him, something came over me and
I felt, this is it for him. It's over. There
is no afterlife, it's done. And I got to tell
(02:27):
you that split second was the coldest, starkest, uneasiest feeling
I have ever had in my life. I got out
of it, I said, I didn't feel that for a
long time. I went back to my old need that
I believe in the afterlife. But for that split second,
it was really really lonesome. What happened to me? Why
(02:51):
did I even think that?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
George?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You know, you put your finger on something that I
needed to say at the outset. The thought that there
is nothing after existence on this earth is a horrible thought.
It's a real downer. I mean, anyone who enjoys life
is going to want to have more of it. The
thought of it becoming completely something of the past and
(03:14):
the piece of history and that's all it is, is unacceptable.
And so that's another reason that I continue to be
very interested in the afterlife. You put your finger on
it much better than I did when talking about my
ten year old experience. Well done.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Is it conceivable that, based on what you've just said,
religions created the afterlife so we wouldn't be so depressed
while we were living.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think that that's not the real reason. When you
go way back in history, I think the real reason
comes from people being aware of visions, that they have
ghosts that they see and live with and they begin
to think that, you know, there's got to be something else,
because this guy is still hanging around. He's dead, And
(04:01):
I think that evidence suggests that there is something more
to life than just the need to believe. Though I
think the need to believe certainly encouraged further investigation and
deeper thought.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I put together a complexity of issues where I believe
the afterlife exists, and I talk about the universe. We
still don't know how the Big Bang happened, right, We
don't know what life is. We really don't even know
what we're here for. No add religion to it, or spirituality,
(04:36):
call it whatever you want. It then starts to make
a lot of sense in terms of the fact that
there's something else out there. Estremely remarkable, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I agree. I think religion does a real service. It's
just that it's a fairly clumsy instrument. It doesn't need,
It doesn't know as much as we know now after
doing our own re search. But it's got the heart
in the right place. Absolutely it does. It affirms that
there is an afterlife. It believes that we are responsible
(05:09):
for our decisions, the kinds of beings that we've become
through our choices and our habits. All of this is necessary,
I think, and good for human.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Beings, Stafford. For those who do not believe, would you
say their life is unhappy, unfulfilled?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I have talked to any number of people and tried
to show them why they should feel that way. Many
say no, you know, I'm used to the thought. I've
gotten familiar. I accept the fact that I simply become nothing.
I've always felt, George, that they were in denial, that
(05:48):
they aren't really honest, they aren't going deep enough. I
have talked to other atheists and materialists who admit that
it's a sorry situation that we're all in and that
life does end catastrophically, but others are really deceiving themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, that's a good point. That's that's truly a good boy.
How do you convince the skeptic, the non believer that
the afterlife is real?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I haven't had much success with that, George. I've been
trying with a number of my friends, and they simply
refuse to read anything that I ever written. They don't
like me to talk about death and what comes beyond.
I even broke up a party once by saying you know,
what do you guys think happens after death? Everybody went
home in a hurry, so I haven't had much success.
(06:41):
It's just that a lot of people feel that they
that it's that the afterlife is something that they basically regarded,
that they regard now as a superstition, and they don't
want to be duped by something that they regard as superstitious,
so they just accept the hard truth and get along
with life and then die. I think rather miserably when
(07:02):
they actually confront what they believe.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
When I tell the non believers, I'd basically say, if
I'm right that there is an afterlife, yeah, you will
find out about it. If I'm wrong, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Right, that's true. I don't think there's any chance in
the world that you're wrong. I think the evidence is
simply overwhelming that there is an after life. The question
is not so much is there an after life, but
what it's like. There's a great deal that we can
argue about the evidence that comes to us about that,
(07:42):
And it's not completely clear to me exactly what happens.
It's certainly not clear to me what's going to happen
to me, specifically, when I die. But as far as
the general rules and the cultures and the kinds of
inhabitants that we meet, the rules the governed life over there,
I think it's generally coming into clarity.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, I mean, just think at this moment with us
right now, Stefford. We're doing an international radio show. There
are millions of people listening. You'll find out when you
get phone calls next hour. And I mean, there's got
to be more to this than meets the eye. That
alone should make you believe that there's something else.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yep, I brought a grief shorts. It's a mysterious world
that we live in. There are too many hints that
there is something more than just this physical life that
we are enjoying right now. There's just too many evidences
that take us in a different direction. In my book
(08:49):
did You When? Did You ever Become Less by Dying?
I look at these nine basic types of evidences, all
pointing in the same direction that we do survive death.
There's just much evidence out there. And that's one of
the things that I look at in my writings and
in shows like this.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Do you find that most people who have lengthy educational
processes like PhDs are generally non believers.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They are much more likely to be non believers, in
my estimate, than those who don't have that kind of education.
It's almost as if they feel that smart people can't
believe in something so weird and so unsupported as another world,
(09:41):
a spiritual world, a non physical world. You know, we
don't see it, we can't smell it. How can you
believe in such a thing. And they don't want to
look at the evidence. They just don't believe that there
is any evidence out there for them to take seriously.
It's a terrible bias that they come to by their
supposedly scientific upbringing. I think their upbringing is entirely unscientific
(10:06):
because they don't look at the evidence. A true scientist
is unafraid to look at the evidence, and these people
refuse to look at it. They're too smart to look
at it. Their PhDs have somewhat, I don't know, marred
their growth.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You find people who have had near death experiences are
more apt to believe in the afterlife.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Overwhelmingly without a doubt. They don't even have any doubts
about it. They're more sure of it than even I am.
You know, I'm ninety nine percent sure of it. But
these guys know, and I think that their assurance is
something that as a scientist I need to take seriously.
These are people who've actually had the experience. People who
(10:53):
debunk it haven't had anything like that. Are they experts?
They're not the experts. Those who had it are, and
we need to listen to them.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I do do you go further into reincarnation?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I do. I please don't think that I like the
idea of having come back and relearn the abcs and
the multiplication tables. I don't like that at all. As
a matter of fact, I'm volunteering a volunteer second grade
third grade teacher, and I see these kids struggling with
(11:30):
their with their language, and I think to myself, Man,
this is not something I ever.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Want to do.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But the evidence is there. It's very profound, it's extremely impressive,
and it comes from a man in particular who has
sometimes regarding this mister reincarnation, and the books simply point
out too many indications of the little kids who remember
(11:56):
specifically their past lives and extremely specifically can name people
from that life, even the villages where they used to live.
And it checks out so Ian Stevenson's books have made
a real impact on me. This is science at its best,
and I can't deny that reincarnation is true for these
(12:18):
little kids. And if it's true for them, can't imagine
why it wouldn't be true for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
This show has gotten me close to a number of
people like Raymond Moody, Evan, like Xander, people who have
experienced incredible things. And I mean, I just I'm convinced
the afterlife is the real thing.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all are. We're all hanging together,
you know, trying to get the message out to the world,
and it's listening slowly. We're making headway more with people,
ordinary folk who don't have these high degrees than with them.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But yeah, have you gotten into a heated argument over
the topic? Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Who loses their cool? First?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You were the skeptic, I'd say it's about I really,
you're honest about it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, They's quite frustrating dealing with these speaker In my
earlier years, I would become frustrated. I don't anymore. I
know how to handle these folks. I've heard it so
often before it's almost rather boring to come across it.
One more time. It doesn't upset me anymore. I just
accept it for the way that it is. It's just
(13:39):
the world we live in. There are people like that.
They're unconvincible.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Is it because when they were kids they were brought
up the wrong way?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think it's because they were many of them were
brought up. The brighter they were, the more clearly they
could see that much that they were getting at Sunday
School was nonsense, and so they began to think that
what comes from religion, including belief in an afterlife, probably
isn't true. They might take a course, a science course
(14:11):
in high school as a junior or senior. They might
begin to feel that the teacher really doesn't have much
use for religion, and that might seal the deal. College
philosophy courses might further seal the deal against any belief
in an afterlife. So there's a lot of bias, particularly
(14:33):
among philosophy instructors at public universities, against anything like a
spiritual world or spiritual beings seventy seven percent, a figure
I saw some years ago. Philosophy instructors at public institutions
are atheists and materialists.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Stafford, wasn't it the Stephen jobs from Apple computer on
his deathbed basically said oh wow, oow. I mean he
saw something.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He did.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He said it three times. It was just before he died.
His sister wrote about this and that's exactly what he said.
He did say, oh oh wow. It came out like that.
He could see and he was having what is known
as a deathbed experience. He had a peep at the
(15:23):
world that he was about to enter. It's interesting because
he had spent most of his life as a doubter.
It wasn't until the last few weeks of his life
that he opened up to belief in and afterlife, and
he was rewarded richly for his later, more mature vision
with that scene, that quick scene of the earth of
(15:47):
the world that he was about to enter. It's one
of the ask the two types of deathbed visions, and
that's one of them, a kind of a peep into
the world you were about to enter. And the other
one is visions of friends and loved ones to cease.
Loved ones who come down and circle your bedroom and
you have conversations with them and they're there apparently to
(16:09):
take you home with them. So yeah, death ed visions
one of the nine types of evidences that suggests that
there is an afterlife.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Do you have a deathbed story you could share with.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Us a deathbed story? Not personally, I don't. It's remarkable
how free of any tragedy my life has moved along
without So there are no stories like yours with Nancy.
(16:41):
That was an amazing story? Or was that Tom who
had that story?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That was me?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That was you? Right, I don't have anything quite like that.
I can't match that. That was a great story.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
George, eighty five years old. Yeah, she's probably listening to
the show right now. Well maybe again. If she calls in,
I'll freak out. But that's okay, it happens.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You know, books have been written about telephone calls from
the dead.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, that's true. They have some means to communicate with electronics,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Instrumental transcommunication is one of the nine basic ways that
the deceased are trying to tell us, hey, we're alive.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,
Stafford Betty back with us. As an afterlife researcher, novelist,
and Emeridis University professor of religious Studies, Stafford believes it's
natural for all of us to give the afterlife some
thought and says that materialists who deny its existence are
down right wrong. Stafford, welcome back. Have you been I've
(00:28):
been fine.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's a little late, but I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're going to keep you awake for two hours.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I appreciate that you get it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Guardians of the Afterworld. That was your last latest book, right,
that's correct. It's darn goodwin. Everybody keeps talking about it
when you're on the show with my buddy George knapback
in February. Oh yeah, I can't believe it. Years gone
by already true. How did you get interested in the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, I have been basically a curious person all my life,
and as a kid going to a Catholic school, belief
in a nafurlife pregatory in particular was really drummed into
me and it became something even something that I worried
(01:18):
about a little bit as I was ten years old
and I was being in a wonder what is it
really like? Is it really as bad as I've been told?
So I think it went way back to my beginnings,
and I've been wondering about what's over there ever since.
Of course, I've justoned everything that Nune told me and
have done my own research and come to my own conclusions.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
My parents taught me about the afterlife. I believed in that.
I was raised Catholic, went to Catechism classes and things
like that. But jump ahead years. A few years ago,
I had a friend of my died in a motorcycle accident,
tragic and at the funeral, I'm looking at his corpse
stafford in the coffin, and he looked so plastic and
(02:05):
so artificial the way they hadn't made up because it
was really a tragic accident. But for a split second,
as I'm looking at him, something came over me and
I felt, this is it for him. It's over. There
is no afterlife, it's done. And I got to tell
(02:27):
you that split second was the coldest, starkest, uneasiest feeling
I have ever had in my life. I got out
of it, I said, I didn't feel that for a
long time. I went back to my old need that
I believe in the afterlife. But for that split second,
it was really really lonesome. What happened to me? Why
(02:51):
did I even think that?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
George?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You know, you put your finger on something that I
needed to say at the outset. The thought that there
is nothing after existence on this earth is a horrible thought.
It's a real downer. I mean, anyone who enjoys life
is going to want to have more of it. The
thought of it becoming completely something of the past and
(03:14):
the piece of history and that's all it is, is unacceptable.
And so that's another reason that I continue to be
very interested in the afterlife. You put your finger on
it much better than I did when talking about my
ten year old experience. Well done.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Is it conceivable that, based on what you've just said,
religions created the afterlife so we wouldn't be so depressed
while we were living.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think that that's not the real reason. When you
go way back in history, I think the real reason
comes from people being aware of visions, that they have
ghosts that they see and live with and they begin
to think that, you know, there's got to be something else,
because this guy is still hanging around. He's dead, And
(04:01):
I think that evidence suggests that there is something more
to life than just the need to believe. Though I
think the need to believe certainly encouraged further investigation and
deeper thought.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I put together a complexity of issues where I believe
the afterlife exists, and I talk about the universe. We
still don't know how the Big Bang happened, right, We
don't know what life is. We really don't even know
what we're here for. No add religion to it, or spirituality,
(04:36):
call it whatever you want. It then starts to make
a lot of sense in terms of the fact that
there's something else out there. Estremely remarkable, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I agree. I think religion does a real service. It's
just that it's a fairly clumsy instrument. It doesn't need,
It doesn't know as much as we know now after
doing our own re search. But it's got the heart
in the right place. Absolutely it does. It affirms that
there is an afterlife. It believes that we are responsible
(05:09):
for our decisions, the kinds of beings that we've become
through our choices and our habits. All of this is necessary,
I think, and good for human.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Beings, Stafford. For those who do not believe, would you
say their life is unhappy, unfulfilled?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I have talked to any number of people and tried
to show them why they should feel that way. Many
say no, you know, I'm used to the thought. I've
gotten familiar. I accept the fact that I simply become nothing.
I've always felt, George, that they were in denial, that
(05:48):
they aren't really honest, they aren't going deep enough. I
have talked to other atheists and materialists who admit that
it's a sorry situation that we're all in and that
life does end catastrophically, but others are really deceiving themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, that's a good point. That's that's truly a good boy.
How do you convince the skeptic, the non believer that
the afterlife is real?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I haven't had much success with that, George. I've been
trying with a number of my friends, and they simply
refuse to read anything that I ever written. They don't
like me to talk about death and what comes beyond.
I even broke up a party once by saying you know,
what do you guys think happens after death? Everybody went
home in a hurry, so I haven't had much success.
(06:41):
It's just that a lot of people feel that they
that it's that the afterlife is something that they basically regarded,
that they regard now as a superstition, and they don't
want to be duped by something that they regard as superstitious,
so they just accept the hard truth and get along
with life and then die. I think rather miserably when
(07:02):
they actually confront what they believe.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
When I tell the non believers, I'd basically say, if
I'm right that there is an afterlife, yeah, you will
find out about it. If I'm wrong, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Right, that's true. I don't think there's any chance in
the world that you're wrong. I think the evidence is
simply overwhelming that there is an after life. The question
is not so much is there an after life, but
what it's like. There's a great deal that we can
argue about the evidence that comes to us about that,
(07:42):
And it's not completely clear to me exactly what happens.
It's certainly not clear to me what's going to happen
to me, specifically, when I die. But as far as
the general rules and the cultures and the kinds of
inhabitants that we meet, the rules the governed life over there,
I think it's generally coming into clarity.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, I mean, just think at this moment with us
right now, Stefford. We're doing an international radio show. There
are millions of people listening. You'll find out when you
get phone calls next hour. And I mean, there's got
to be more to this than meets the eye. That
alone should make you believe that there's something else.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yep, I brought a grief shorts. It's a mysterious world
that we live in. There are too many hints that
there is something more than just this physical life that
we are enjoying right now. There's just too many evidences
that take us in a different direction. In my book
(08:49):
did You When? Did You ever Become Less by Dying?
I look at these nine basic types of evidences, all
pointing in the same direction that we do survive death.
There's just much evidence out there. And that's one of
the things that I look at in my writings and
in shows like this.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Do you find that most people who have lengthy educational
processes like PhDs are generally non believers.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They are much more likely to be non believers, in
my estimate, than those who don't have that kind of education.
It's almost as if they feel that smart people can't
believe in something so weird and so unsupported as another world,
(09:41):
a spiritual world, a non physical world. You know, we
don't see it, we can't smell it. How can you
believe in such a thing. And they don't want to
look at the evidence. They just don't believe that there
is any evidence out there for them to take seriously.
It's a terrible bias that they come to by their
supposedly scientific upbringing. I think their upbringing is entirely unscientific
(10:06):
because they don't look at the evidence. A true scientist
is unafraid to look at the evidence, and these people
refuse to look at it. They're too smart to look
at it. Their PhDs have somewhat, I don't know, marred
their growth.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You find people who have had near death experiences are
more apt to believe in the afterlife.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Overwhelmingly without a doubt. They don't even have any doubts
about it. They're more sure of it than even I am.
You know, I'm ninety nine percent sure of it. But
these guys know, and I think that their assurance is
something that as a scientist I need to take seriously.
These are people who've actually had the experience. People who
(10:53):
debunk it haven't had anything like that. Are they experts?
They're not the experts. Those who had it are, and
we need to listen to them.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I do do you go further into reincarnation?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I do. I please don't think that I like the
idea of having come back and relearn the abcs and
the multiplication tables. I don't like that at all. As
a matter of fact, I'm volunteering a volunteer second grade
third grade teacher, and I see these kids struggling with
(11:30):
their with their language, and I think to myself, Man,
this is not something I ever.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Want to do.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But the evidence is there. It's very profound, it's extremely impressive,
and it comes from a man in particular who has
sometimes regarding this mister reincarnation, and the books simply point
out too many indications of the little kids who remember
(11:56):
specifically their past lives and extremely specifically can name people
from that life, even the villages where they used to live.
And it checks out so Ian Stevenson's books have made
a real impact on me. This is science at its best,
and I can't deny that reincarnation is true for these
(12:18):
little kids. And if it's true for them, can't imagine
why it wouldn't be true for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
This show has gotten me close to a number of
people like Raymond Moody, Evan, like Xander, people who have
experienced incredible things. And I mean, I just I'm convinced
the afterlife is the real thing.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all are. We're all hanging together,
you know, trying to get the message out to the world,
and it's listening slowly. We're making headway more with people,
ordinary folk who don't have these high degrees than with them.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But yeah, have you gotten into a heated argument over
the topic? Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Who loses their cool? First?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You were the skeptic, I'd say it's about I really,
you're honest about it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, They's quite frustrating dealing with these speaker In my
earlier years, I would become frustrated. I don't anymore. I
know how to handle these folks. I've heard it so
often before it's almost rather boring to come across it.
One more time. It doesn't upset me anymore. I just
accept it for the way that it is. It's just
(13:39):
the world we live in. There are people like that.
They're unconvincible.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Is it because when they were kids they were brought
up the wrong way?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think it's because they were many of them were
brought up. The brighter they were, the more clearly they
could see that much that they were getting at Sunday
School was nonsense, and so they began to think that
what comes from religion, including belief in an afterlife, probably
isn't true. They might take a course, a science course
(14:11):
in high school as a junior or senior. They might
begin to feel that the teacher really doesn't have much
use for religion, and that might seal the deal. College
philosophy courses might further seal the deal against any belief
in an afterlife. So there's a lot of bias, particularly
(14:33):
among philosophy instructors at public universities, against anything like a
spiritual world or spiritual beings seventy seven percent, a figure
I saw some years ago. Philosophy instructors at public institutions
are atheists and materialists.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Stafford, wasn't it the Stephen jobs from Apple computer on
his deathbed basically said oh wow, oow. I mean he
saw something.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
He did.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He said it three times. It was just before he died.
His sister wrote about this and that's exactly what he said.
He did say, oh oh wow. It came out like that.
He could see and he was having what is known
as a deathbed experience. He had a peep at the
(15:23):
world that he was about to enter. It's interesting because
he had spent most of his life as a doubter.
It wasn't until the last few weeks of his life
that he opened up to belief in and afterlife, and
he was rewarded richly for his later, more mature vision
with that scene, that quick scene of the earth of
(15:47):
the world that he was about to enter. It's one
of the ask the two types of deathbed visions, and
that's one of them, a kind of a peep into
the world you were about to enter. And the other
one is visions of friends and loved ones to cease.
Loved ones who come down and circle your bedroom and
you have conversations with them and they're there apparently to
(16:09):
take you home with them. So yeah, death ed visions
one of the nine types of evidences that suggests that
there is an afterlife.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Do you have a deathbed story you could share with.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Us a deathbed story? Not personally, I don't. It's remarkable
how free of any tragedy my life has moved along
without So there are no stories like yours with Nancy.
(16:41):
That was an amazing story? Or was that Tom who
had that story?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That was me?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That was you? Right, I don't have anything quite like that.
I can't match that. That was a great story.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
George, eighty five years old. Yeah, she's probably listening to
the show right now. Well maybe again. If she calls in,
I'll freak out. But that's okay, it happens.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You know, books have been written about telephone calls from
the dead.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, that's true. They have some means to communicate with electronics,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Instrumental transcommunication is one of the nine basic ways that
the deceased are trying to tell us, hey, we're alive.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
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