April 30, 2020 • 17 mins
George Noory and clairvoyant Hollister Rand explore her work as a psychic medium, how she communicates with ghosts and spirits, and whether we have anything to be afraid of after we die.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
When you say that you're a Claire sentient, what does
that mean to people? It means I feel spirit So
there are what we call the Claire's Claire Sentient, Claire Audience,
Claire Gustin's, and these are basically heightened senses. So clairvoyance.
(00:23):
People hear about clairvoyance all the time, clear seeing, so
clai r means clear, and so Claire sentient means I
feel spirits, so I get a sense of their personalities.
Things like that. Hollistar, I love the title Everything you
Wanted to Know about the Afterlife? How did you come
up with that? Well, I've been doing events for the
(00:46):
last nine years. I have not disappeared off the planet,
and at these events people asked questions, question after question,
and I started writing these questions down and there were
themes and the same questions We're being asked over and
over and over again. So I thought, Okay, it's about
time to put those questions together and the answers together,
(01:10):
and that's how this book was born. Do a lot
of people fear the afterlife? That is such an interesting question.
When I first started doing this work. About twenty five
years ago, people were afraid of what happens after you die.
Now there's much more acceptance about, you know, with spirit
(01:32):
communication and that kind of thing, So people are more
open to the concept of life after death and that
kind of thing. Now the questions around fear are will
I be separated from someone I love? What happens if
they reincarnate and I die? Am I going to miss them?
Or what happens in the afterlife? Do I have to
(01:53):
live with all four husbands I had? So those are
the fears that are coming up now. Interesting take now,
you wrote this book for the mask, of course, but
was it targeted specifically to any group? There is something
for everyone in this book, and what I say to people,
(02:16):
if you're new to the subject, you can choose whatever
questions you want. So the questions are listed in the
front of the book, and people can look at the
question they want answered, go to that answer, and then
at the end of that answer are suggestions of other
questions that they may want to explore. Or you can
(02:36):
start at the beginning of the book and read all
the way to the end. But it is as in
depth and experience as people want to have. They are
exercises in there if you want to start communicating with
your loved ones, if you're already an end path, already medium,
already a spirit communicator, there is something in there for
you as well. Well, you've laid it out great with
(02:59):
a number of questions well over you know, sixty questions plus, yeah,
and there were plenty more. I mean the hardest thing
was limiting the questions, yeah, and cutting them down. Of
course that was tough. And you start off with the
probably the question everybody wants to know, and that is
(03:20):
is there really an afterlife? And you know, I guess
people ask me that Hollister quite a bit, and my
answer is kind of simple. I say, you'll find out
when you die, and if you don't, it doesn't matter.
You know, you could have saved me a whole lot
of trouble answering that first question. Well, I was actually
(03:45):
shocked at where the first question in the book was asked.
It was asked on a cruise, a metaphysical cruise, by
the way, and during a workshop when we had cruises, right, yes,
when we had cruises, remember those. So it was a
metaphysical group. And what I do at my events as
(04:08):
people write out their questions, put them in a basket,
and I pull them out because I've discovered sometimes people
don't want to ask a question in public. Maybe it's
too personal, you know, or they don't want to be embarrassed,
or they don't want to speak in front of people.
So I pulled this out of the hat, so to speak,
and was kind of stunned because I thought, well, gee,
(04:30):
I'm in a group of people. I thought that was
pretty much a solved question, and so I paused there
for a second, and I could have been flippant, Well,
of course there's an afterlife. I'm a medium. What else
am I going to say? But then I paused and
I thought I have to hear what spirit has to say.
Is there really an afterlife? It deserves an answer. And
(04:55):
what Spirit gave me in that moment, as I looked
out at every buddy in the audience and could see
their loved ones with them, there isn't an afterlife. According
to the spirits, there is just life. Well that is
absolutely perfect too, There is just life. And do you
(05:18):
believe in reincarnation? I do? And in your opinion, why
do we reincarnate? I always thought it was to become
more perfect to reach that heavenly state. Oh, I think
there are a variety of reasons. I think there are
as many reasons to reincarnate as there are people, personalities,
(05:39):
things to learn, and I do think people come back
to also teach help mankind. I don't think it's I
don't think reincarnation is a one size fits all. And
this is one of the questions that comes from fear
that I get from people. What happens if I die
and my loved one is reincarnated? Are we going to
(06:02):
miss each other? Like somehow we're all going through a
revolving door and you know, Oops, I went out the door.
I'm on the street. Oops, he went in the door
and he's inside. You know, somehow we miss each other
spinning around in this great universe. And that is just
not how the spirits have presented it to me. How
(06:23):
about ghosts. You believe in ghosts? Yeah, I do. I've
met quite a few in my life, and I don't
like that the most part. I prefer spirits. So in
my book, I talk about the difference between ghosts and spirits.
What is that difference? Well, I say that ghosts are
spirits with a bad attitude. I love that. That's probably true.
(06:46):
And yeah, there are a lot of disgruntled They're not happy,
are they spirits out there? They are not happy campers,
no now. And so that's why in my work I
work specifically at the frequency of love, and at that frequency,
the only spirits that can speak to me are those
(07:07):
that have the best interest set heart of those who
come to see me. So I don't I don't talk.
You know, I'm like the GPS to the good neighborhoods
in the afterlife. Well with Hollister Rand, your new book
Everything you wanted to know about the Afterlife comes out
not too long from now, just right around the say,
it's something like that right around there. To be sure,
(07:28):
how did this all begin for you? How did this start? Well,
it was a bit of a process. It wasn't like
one day I woke up and went, oh, I'm going
to be a medium. I saw spirits when I was young.
There were spirits I recognized, like my grandfather, whom I loved.
So the concept of death was a little wonky for me.
(07:50):
I couldn't quite figure out why people were saying my
grandfather was dead when I could see papap at night.
But then there were others that I didn't know, so
I kind of had this stranger danger thing, like whoo,
who are these people and what are they doing here?
And I also got the message that maybe this was
not the best thing for me to be doing, and
(08:14):
I pretty much shut it down. But when I was
in a car accident in my late teens, from my
late teens to my early twenties, I suffered a you know,
sort of a cataclysmic awakening where I couldn't tell the
difference between the living and the dead. And then after
(08:35):
that I met other people who showed me the way
and started to explain myself to me and I no
longer felt like a weirdo. And then eventually I realized,
wait a minute, this can be useful for people. I
can be in service. And that's when the light went on,
when it went from a burden to a blessing. Do
(08:58):
you think the car accident of jarge you into this mode? Yes,
I do. I had a severe head injury as part
of the accident. It was a very very serious accident.
And now what I'm discovering is that these days, because
of accepted spirituality, kids don't shut down anymore. They remain
(09:24):
connected because kids naturally are connected with spirit, and so
there isn't that shutting down, and there doesn't have to
be a jarring trauma to wake people up anymore. So
I'm delighted with this. I love working with the parents
of sensitive kids. It gets to be pretty emotional too,
(09:45):
I bet Hollister, doesn't it, especially when you work on.
One of the things that I work with my students
with is how to keep the energy moving through you
so you do not get caught up up in the
emotion of the people you're with. So when you connect
with spirit, it's at the love, joy, peace connection, not
(10:11):
at the empathy, sympathy, pain and grief. Now let's talk
a little bit more about demodic spirits. What creates those
kind of entities. Well, I don't know about your creation
of them. I did grow up in the church, and
(10:32):
I was also involved with the charismatic Christian Church, so
I saw some very kind of creepy, scary things. And
so when people say to me, oh, evil isn't real,
there's no such things as demons, I'm like, well, okay,
you obviously haven't met a few. That's right. Take them
(10:55):
to an exorcism once you have. You really, that's one
of the reasons why this frequency of love and holding
these frequencies here on the earth very very important because
fear anger, the lower level emotions can be used by
certain entities. And so this is why I work with
(11:18):
people to raise this energy high so that the spirits
of the highest order are given a place at the banquet,
you know, kind of a place at the table of
our life on earth. All of us have had a
loved one who has probably passed on Hollister, and of
course one day we all will be gone. Sadly to say,
(11:39):
but that's part of living. And what can people expect
when they take that last breath? Kind of paint us
a picture of what we can expect to happen. I
am really glad you asked that, especially at this moment
in time, because so many people are leaving the planet
in a way where will assume they are dying alone.
(12:03):
So there's pain all around around the dying experience. It's
unexpected in some ways. It's sudden people seem to be
getting better and then all of a sudden they're dead.
Their family can't be with them. So I must say
to everybody, no one dies alone. Let me be really
clear about that and say it again. No one dies alone.
(12:27):
What happens is the room fills up with loved ones
in spirit fills up with angels. If angels are called in,
so as a person is passing, they are loved, they
are guided, and they are welcomed. Now, since you've been
doing this, which has been a number of incredible years,
(12:49):
have you come across a situation that either baffled you
or scared you. People ask me whether this frightens me.
Not anymore, I have to say the ghostbusting stuff roof, Yeah,
don't want to revisit that there was some scar. You know,
there was scary stuff there, bafflement. I'm very interested in
(13:17):
understanding things. So sometimes what baffles me is the idea
that people can't change after they die. I remember I
spoke with a spirit and the woman said to me, well,
that's all great, but you know, I can't believe that
(13:39):
there has been a change, that he has changed after
he died. I'm like, what you think, we die and
we don't change. That we're stuck in one way, shape
or form for eternity. That the limitation, I think baffles me.
The idea that we are limited beings. That surprises me.
(14:03):
Is there a spiritual or religious aspect to the dying
process and the afterlife process or is it really just
part of this universe. Well, you can make it religious,
you can make it spiritual. Belief has a lot to
do with how we experience death and dying. I've had
(14:28):
angels show up in rooms when I've been talking with
a spirit, and I will say, your mother is here
with angels. She said, she flew on the wings of
angels because you asked them to escort her. And so
there's a way we can almost create our experience as
(14:52):
we pass One woman said, too, said to me, I
wanted to die and see the face of God. And
her daughter said those were her final words, And of
course I had to ask, being the curious person, I am, well,
did you see the face of God? And she said,
I did not see the face of God. God is everywhere.
(15:14):
Stephen's go ahead, that's something Stephen's jobs from Apple computer
when he died right before he passed on said oh wow,
oh wow. Yeah? What was he What was it just
something that was happening to his brain because of the
dying process, or was he really seeing somewhere? Well, you know,
(15:35):
what I think he was seeing was the real network. See,
this was a man who worked in networks, and so
as we die, we get to see the network we're
plugged into um and so I think he suddenly saw
these universal networks that in some way he was tapping
(15:56):
into here with Internet and this idea of conicivity, I
think with dying that oh wow, it's like these networks
really are here. They really are. It's truly remarkable. There's
really nothing to fear about the other side, is there. No,
I don't find that there's anything to fear. I'm kind
(16:21):
of excited about the idea that people right now are
thinking about afterlife. I'm sorry that it's happening. In the
way it's happening. This is a very painful thing for
the planet. But what I am hoping is that as
people are thinking about afterlife, as they are addressing their
(16:43):
fears and enquiring about their fears, you know, asking for
more information, that we will become more loving, more compassionate.
That is my hope. Listen to more Coast to Coast
AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to
Coast to Coast am dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
When you say that you're a Claire sentient, what does
that mean to people? It means I feel spirit So
there are what we call the Claire's Claire Sentient, Claire Audience,
Claire Gustin's, and these are basically heightened senses. So clairvoyance.
(00:23):
People hear about clairvoyance all the time, clear seeing, so
clai r means clear, and so Claire sentient means I
feel spirits, so I get a sense of their personalities.
Things like that. Hollistar, I love the title Everything you
Wanted to Know about the Afterlife? How did you come
up with that? Well, I've been doing events for the
(00:46):
last nine years. I have not disappeared off the planet,
and at these events people asked questions, question after question,
and I started writing these questions down and there were
themes and the same questions We're being asked over and
over and over again. So I thought, Okay, it's about
time to put those questions together and the answers together,
(01:10):
and that's how this book was born. Do a lot
of people fear the afterlife? That is such an interesting question.
When I first started doing this work. About twenty five
years ago, people were afraid of what happens after you die.
Now there's much more acceptance about, you know, with spirit
(01:32):
communication and that kind of thing, So people are more
open to the concept of life after death and that
kind of thing. Now the questions around fear are will
I be separated from someone I love? What happens if
they reincarnate and I die? Am I going to miss them?
Or what happens in the afterlife? Do I have to
(01:53):
live with all four husbands I had? So those are
the fears that are coming up now. Interesting take now,
you wrote this book for the mask, of course, but
was it targeted specifically to any group? There is something
for everyone in this book, and what I say to people,
(02:16):
if you're new to the subject, you can choose whatever
questions you want. So the questions are listed in the
front of the book, and people can look at the
question they want answered, go to that answer, and then
at the end of that answer are suggestions of other
questions that they may want to explore. Or you can
(02:36):
start at the beginning of the book and read all
the way to the end. But it is as in
depth and experience as people want to have. They are
exercises in there if you want to start communicating with
your loved ones, if you're already an end path, already medium,
already a spirit communicator, there is something in there for
you as well. Well, you've laid it out great with
(02:59):
a number of questions well over you know, sixty questions plus, yeah,
and there were plenty more. I mean the hardest thing
was limiting the questions, yeah, and cutting them down. Of
course that was tough. And you start off with the
probably the question everybody wants to know, and that is
(03:20):
is there really an afterlife? And you know, I guess
people ask me that Hollister quite a bit, and my
answer is kind of simple. I say, you'll find out
when you die, and if you don't, it doesn't matter.
You know, you could have saved me a whole lot
of trouble answering that first question. Well, I was actually
(03:45):
shocked at where the first question in the book was asked.
It was asked on a cruise, a metaphysical cruise, by
the way, and during a workshop when we had cruises, right, yes,
when we had cruises, remember those. So it was a
metaphysical group. And what I do at my events as
(04:08):
people write out their questions, put them in a basket,
and I pull them out because I've discovered sometimes people
don't want to ask a question in public. Maybe it's
too personal, you know, or they don't want to be embarrassed,
or they don't want to speak in front of people.
So I pulled this out of the hat, so to speak,
and was kind of stunned because I thought, well, gee,
(04:30):
I'm in a group of people. I thought that was
pretty much a solved question, and so I paused there
for a second, and I could have been flippant, Well,
of course there's an afterlife. I'm a medium. What else
am I going to say? But then I paused and
I thought I have to hear what spirit has to say.
Is there really an afterlife? It deserves an answer. And
(04:55):
what Spirit gave me in that moment, as I looked
out at every buddy in the audience and could see
their loved ones with them, there isn't an afterlife. According
to the spirits, there is just life. Well that is
absolutely perfect too, There is just life. And do you
(05:18):
believe in reincarnation? I do? And in your opinion, why
do we reincarnate? I always thought it was to become
more perfect to reach that heavenly state. Oh, I think
there are a variety of reasons. I think there are
as many reasons to reincarnate as there are people, personalities,
(05:39):
things to learn, and I do think people come back
to also teach help mankind. I don't think it's I
don't think reincarnation is a one size fits all. And
this is one of the questions that comes from fear
that I get from people. What happens if I die
and my loved one is reincarnated? Are we going to
(06:02):
miss each other? Like somehow we're all going through a
revolving door and you know, Oops, I went out the door.
I'm on the street. Oops, he went in the door
and he's inside. You know, somehow we miss each other
spinning around in this great universe. And that is just
not how the spirits have presented it to me. How
(06:23):
about ghosts. You believe in ghosts? Yeah, I do. I've
met quite a few in my life, and I don't
like that the most part. I prefer spirits. So in
my book, I talk about the difference between ghosts and spirits.
What is that difference? Well, I say that ghosts are
spirits with a bad attitude. I love that. That's probably true.
(06:46):
And yeah, there are a lot of disgruntled They're not happy,
are they spirits out there? They are not happy campers,
no now. And so that's why in my work I
work specifically at the frequency of love, and at that frequency,
the only spirits that can speak to me are those
(07:07):
that have the best interest set heart of those who
come to see me. So I don't I don't talk.
You know, I'm like the GPS to the good neighborhoods
in the afterlife. Well with Hollister Rand, your new book
Everything you wanted to know about the Afterlife comes out
not too long from now, just right around the say,
it's something like that right around there. To be sure,
(07:28):
how did this all begin for you? How did this start? Well,
it was a bit of a process. It wasn't like
one day I woke up and went, oh, I'm going
to be a medium. I saw spirits when I was young.
There were spirits I recognized, like my grandfather, whom I loved.
So the concept of death was a little wonky for me.
(07:50):
I couldn't quite figure out why people were saying my
grandfather was dead when I could see papap at night.
But then there were others that I didn't know, so
I kind of had this stranger danger thing, like whoo,
who are these people and what are they doing here?
And I also got the message that maybe this was
not the best thing for me to be doing, and
(08:14):
I pretty much shut it down. But when I was
in a car accident in my late teens, from my
late teens to my early twenties, I suffered a you know,
sort of a cataclysmic awakening where I couldn't tell the
difference between the living and the dead. And then after
(08:35):
that I met other people who showed me the way
and started to explain myself to me and I no
longer felt like a weirdo. And then eventually I realized,
wait a minute, this can be useful for people. I
can be in service. And that's when the light went on,
when it went from a burden to a blessing. Do
(08:58):
you think the car accident of jarge you into this mode? Yes,
I do. I had a severe head injury as part
of the accident. It was a very very serious accident.
And now what I'm discovering is that these days, because
of accepted spirituality, kids don't shut down anymore. They remain
(09:24):
connected because kids naturally are connected with spirit, and so
there isn't that shutting down, and there doesn't have to
be a jarring trauma to wake people up anymore. So
I'm delighted with this. I love working with the parents
of sensitive kids. It gets to be pretty emotional too,
(09:45):
I bet Hollister, doesn't it, especially when you work on.
One of the things that I work with my students
with is how to keep the energy moving through you
so you do not get caught up up in the
emotion of the people you're with. So when you connect
with spirit, it's at the love, joy, peace connection, not
(10:11):
at the empathy, sympathy, pain and grief. Now let's talk
a little bit more about demodic spirits. What creates those
kind of entities. Well, I don't know about your creation
of them. I did grow up in the church, and
(10:32):
I was also involved with the charismatic Christian Church, so
I saw some very kind of creepy, scary things. And
so when people say to me, oh, evil isn't real,
there's no such things as demons, I'm like, well, okay,
you obviously haven't met a few. That's right. Take them
(10:55):
to an exorcism once you have. You really, that's one
of the reasons why this frequency of love and holding
these frequencies here on the earth very very important because
fear anger, the lower level emotions can be used by
certain entities. And so this is why I work with
(11:18):
people to raise this energy high so that the spirits
of the highest order are given a place at the banquet,
you know, kind of a place at the table of
our life on earth. All of us have had a
loved one who has probably passed on Hollister, and of
course one day we all will be gone. Sadly to say,
(11:39):
but that's part of living. And what can people expect
when they take that last breath? Kind of paint us
a picture of what we can expect to happen. I
am really glad you asked that, especially at this moment
in time, because so many people are leaving the planet
in a way where will assume they are dying alone.
(12:03):
So there's pain all around around the dying experience. It's
unexpected in some ways. It's sudden people seem to be
getting better and then all of a sudden they're dead.
Their family can't be with them. So I must say
to everybody, no one dies alone. Let me be really
clear about that and say it again. No one dies alone.
(12:27):
What happens is the room fills up with loved ones
in spirit fills up with angels. If angels are called in,
so as a person is passing, they are loved, they
are guided, and they are welcomed. Now, since you've been
doing this, which has been a number of incredible years,
(12:49):
have you come across a situation that either baffled you
or scared you. People ask me whether this frightens me.
Not anymore, I have to say the ghostbusting stuff roof, Yeah,
don't want to revisit that there was some scar. You know,
there was scary stuff there, bafflement. I'm very interested in
(13:17):
understanding things. So sometimes what baffles me is the idea
that people can't change after they die. I remember I
spoke with a spirit and the woman said to me, well,
that's all great, but you know, I can't believe that
(13:39):
there has been a change, that he has changed after
he died. I'm like, what you think, we die and
we don't change. That we're stuck in one way, shape
or form for eternity. That the limitation, I think baffles me.
The idea that we are limited beings. That surprises me.
(14:03):
Is there a spiritual or religious aspect to the dying
process and the afterlife process or is it really just
part of this universe. Well, you can make it religious,
you can make it spiritual. Belief has a lot to
do with how we experience death and dying. I've had
(14:28):
angels show up in rooms when I've been talking with
a spirit, and I will say, your mother is here
with angels. She said, she flew on the wings of
angels because you asked them to escort her. And so
there's a way we can almost create our experience as
(14:52):
we pass One woman said, too, said to me, I
wanted to die and see the face of God. And
her daughter said those were her final words, And of
course I had to ask, being the curious person, I am, well,
did you see the face of God? And she said,
I did not see the face of God. God is everywhere.
(15:14):
Stephen's go ahead, that's something Stephen's jobs from Apple computer
when he died right before he passed on said oh wow,
oh wow. Yeah? What was he What was it just
something that was happening to his brain because of the
dying process, or was he really seeing somewhere? Well, you know,
(15:35):
what I think he was seeing was the real network. See,
this was a man who worked in networks, and so
as we die, we get to see the network we're
plugged into um and so I think he suddenly saw
these universal networks that in some way he was tapping
(15:56):
into here with Internet and this idea of conicivity, I
think with dying that oh wow, it's like these networks
really are here. They really are. It's truly remarkable. There's
really nothing to fear about the other side, is there. No,
I don't find that there's anything to fear. I'm kind
(16:21):
of excited about the idea that people right now are
thinking about afterlife. I'm sorry that it's happening. In the
way it's happening. This is a very painful thing for
the planet. But what I am hoping is that as
people are thinking about afterlife, as they are addressing their
(16:43):
fears and enquiring about their fears, you know, asking for
more information, that we will become more loving, more compassionate.
That is my hope. Listen to more Coast to Coast
AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to
Coast to Coast am dot com for more
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.