September 16, 2024 • 16 mins
Guest Host George Knapp and Producer, Director and Writer Darcy Weir talk about a leaked UAP video that is the subject of his new documentary Transmedium: Puerto Rico's UFO's
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
DARSI were we'll come back to discussing what's in the
video and what you think it shows, But I wanted
to return to the real mystery in your film is
the guy who leaked it? That's what you went down
there to find out. And that's tricky stuff to get
somebody to come forward who might be wondering, who are
these guys? Why do they want to know this? Because
there's no doubt that a lot of folks in powerful
(00:26):
positions did not want that video to be leaked.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Correct, Yeah, that appears to be the case based on
the testimony from this agent. The FBI actually did get
involved and they changed the whole access procedures for people
(00:49):
that worked for CVP with regards to that type of
footage right after this week happened. Essentially, this this guy
was no longer allowed to go to the same areas.
He wasn't allowed to communicate with the same friend who
(01:12):
gave him the footage, who originally recorded it. It was
really let's say, stove piped and kind of like segregated
after that. So they made sure that security was tightened.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Up but in the film, you don't show his face,
you don't use his name. He's obviously got some concern
about what might happen to him. You got to figure
whoever he is. The people who didn't want this out
have zeroed in on it and have identified him in
some way, right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Or do you know?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't, I don't. I mean, we haven't spoken to
him since we left Puerto Rico, and I think we
should obviously follow up is worthy, but we didn't want
to bother him A and B. We just did not
feel like he wanted to say anything more because he
(02:11):
also had that high fear level. So yeah, we kind
of just left it at that. We anonymized them in
the film. But obviously he was working there still and
he met us at his place of work.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So explain to our listeners how it was that he
was on that plane. So these guys do these routine flights,
he was not necessarily part of that individual work group.
Without giving too much info about where he did work
and for whom he was just on there sort of
as a favor from the guys who were on the plane.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So he wasn't actually on the plane. His direct friend
who worked within the CVP. Good friend, let's say, knew
that he had an interest in this type of footage.
Knew that, you know, obviously that there was some activity
(03:15):
worthy of telling this guy, and directly after the event,
the same day, he reached out to this individual that
we met up with, and that guy rushed over, went
into the plane and looked at the footage, and subsequently
(03:37):
he actually asked his friend if he could make a
copy of the footage for him and did yeah, and
he shared that footage with Jorge Martin and that's how
it reached us.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
How nervous was he about talking to you, Yeah, he
was nervous.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
We were in Puerto Rico for a few days and
we just kept following up, kept following up with Jorge
really pushing for the meeting. We weren't sure if we
were going to get it, and he was, you know, hesitant,
(04:19):
and then finally he agreed to meet with us after
he finished a shift at night and at the same
airport it that all this footage was recorded, so we
actually got to see from the ground level where the
UFO was flying over, and quite a large, large area.
(04:43):
It covered a lot of ground, so to speak, really quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Let's get to more specifics then, about the video itself.
I know the guys from SCU did a paper about it.
I've interview Rich Hoffman and others, and really good analysis
about what it is and what it is not. As
you mentioned, there have been debunkers who tried to explain
it away as a balloon, which is preposterous. Describe what
this thing look like? How big you think it is
(05:10):
based on comparisons to other things on the ground and
what it did?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, sure, so the best sort of description of what
it looked like was probably an almond shaped object, and
it was about the size of a car, because you
actually do see it fly quite a bit above a
(05:37):
parking structure area and parking lot, and you could see
these little rectangle structures on the ground. Those are cars.
So if it's flying quite a bit above those and
it's almost the same size of them, you're going to
think it's about the size of a car. It was
(05:58):
almond shaped. It seemed to sort of rotate every now
and then, or kind of like I guess, but not
like in a circular way. It kind of rotated like
a football, would you know what I mean? Like it
twisted and the strange thing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We had a friend, Dave Fulch, do an analysis of
this footage. He's an MX fifteen and other west CAAM
forward looking infrared light camera repair man, so he professionally
sets up these camera systems that are coming off of
(06:47):
CVP planes and repairs them. And he's actually recorded his
own UFO encounter on one of these systems from the ground,
by the way, and he describes the footage as very
anomalist himself, because he knows what a milar balloon looks like,
he knows what the exhaust of a fighter jet would
(07:11):
look like, he knows what a bird would look like,
and this object doesn't look like any of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It also.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Just kind of throws off detection. It almost creates its
shape in a different way as it's flying. And yeah,
it seems to move quite quickly until it gets to
the ocean, goes into the ocean, comes out, it divides
(07:45):
into two and one of those two objects seems to
go down into the ocean. The other one just kind
of floats off, and then the tracking system loses both
of them. So if you don't think that's an intelligence
behind this flying object, you got to be crazy in
(08:08):
my opinion, and.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It doesn't slow down. This thing goes into the water
and it's moving just as fast as it was through
the air, correct, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I mean that's the sort of trans medium characteristic
about it. It operates at the same speed it was
in our gaseous atmosphere as it does when it goes
in the ocean. So the ocean does not seem to
have any friction or impediment to its speed.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So that takes out balloon. There's no balloon that goes
through the ocean like that, that's for sure, right. And secondly,
I mean balloons don't split into two and still float
around up there obviously. Yeah, So then drones could be
a drone, I guess. But drones don't split into two,
and back in twenty thirteen, they didn't go into the ocean.
There were no trans medium drones that we have that
(08:58):
we know of, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And it's a good thing you brought up drones because
a drone would look like a drone in Flear footage
like this. The Flear cameras are very high quality. They
would be able to break down the full shape of
a drone and you would see the heat points around propellers.
This did not have propellers, This did not have the
(09:20):
shape of a typical drone. It just looked like this
almond shaped sort of silvery object that might i add,
was not visible to the ground crew. There were people
walking around below it on the airport tarmac. Was not
a visible to the pilot or any of the people
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It was only.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Visible in flear, which is a characteristic again that constantly
gets reported in UFO footage and people that capture this
type of UFO footage in different light spectrum that the
human eye can't see. These UFOs tend to operate in
a light spectrum that we can't see because they don't
(10:06):
want to be seen. They want to be in cognito.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Describe for me how the government reacts to this. At
the time this guy on the plane has recorded this video,
he lets his friend make a copy of that four
minute or so chunk, and then the friend takes it
away and eventually it gets to SCU and gets out
in the public. What happens in between the other three
(10:33):
other places where this was to have been recorded according
to the system that you described, was it recorded in
all three of those places, or did and did anybody
notice it and pay attention to it or do we know?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, according to the agent, it was recorded in the
other locations and from the mainland Department of Homeland Security
branch that was communicating with this CVP Rent branch, they
reported quite early this was as anomalist that this was
not any craft or known terrestrial technology. So that's what
(11:07):
the CBP, that's what this guy, the anonymous agent, told us.
And then he said the FBI got involved and were
investigating it too locally, and I think that's when they
also created new restrictions so that this agent we spoke
to was not allowed to ever go on to planes
(11:30):
and look at FLEAR footage up close and personal. They
really just started to separate personnel and make sure that
only certain people with certain clearances security clearances were allowed
to see that type of footage. And I think the
(11:51):
same is very very likely happening with DHS right now.
I've spoken to some other people, and you may up
speaking to somebody like Ross Colhart and they can probably
confirm to you that there is a standing order right
now within DHS that they cannot release any footage to
(12:16):
the public or anything that they record is considered basically
classified right.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now, Yeah, that's that's kind of not a surprise at
all that clamped down on it. For sure. I would
still worry for your friend and the guy who allowed
him to make that copy. But I suppose that if
they had not made a copy and leaked it, we
would never have seen it. Or is there a paper trail?
(12:44):
Have you found a paper trail at all?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I have not found a paper trail. But that agent
quite he spoke quite clearly in the documentary that you know,
he's he did this in an altruistic way. He wanted
the world to know how the footage was taken, leaked
(13:12):
and why. And according to him, there's all kinds of
this phenomenon happening all around Puerto Rico. He's spoken to
all kinds of walks of life of Puerto Ricans, fishermen,
other you know, enforcement officers and CVP people that have
(13:34):
witnessed these things. And he's concerned and he thinks it's
really strange. Right, fishermen have seen objects in the water,
lights in the water that you know, they know what
scuba divers look like, but this is not that. And
(13:54):
these objects have been seen exiting the water going into
the water around Porto ric Rico. On top of that,
there have been you know, for lack of a better word, nahi,
non human intelligence sightings for decades now. We were speaking
(14:15):
about the Junkee National Rainforest before, but this has been
seen in the oceans around Puerto Rico. Strange beings seen
at night on the beaches, going into the ocean, coming
out of the ocean, and swimming around sometimes too.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And well, you've got video, you've got video that including
your film that as an additional part of your investigation,
and you track down some people who have had some
up close and personal encounters. And then I don't know
how you got this other video, but it's nighttime, this
bluish light in the in the ocean, and people are
recording it on their cell phone.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, fishermen, believe it or not, we're recording that. And
that seems to be the common theme in Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rican fishermen see this all the time, and that
blue object. It starts as that they keep tracking it,
and they keep following it on a boat until you see,
(15:20):
I think at one point when they're a little bit
closer to the shore, you actually see like this human
aid figure hovering through the light. Now, I have heard
somebody recently sent a link a friend on Twitter thinking
that that was actually a dive group that and this
dive group actually claimed that video to be them. But
(15:43):
I'm a scuba diver. I've been scuba diving since I
was fifteen. I know what light refraction looks like from
the surface and what somebody a scuba diver should look
like if they had a light source under the water
and they were swimming nearby. Nowhere in that footage does
(16:04):
it look like scuba diver or a group of scuba divers,
because the number one thing that's missing in that footage
from beginning to end are bubbles rising to the surface.
You have to have something you're breathing with underwater, and
there's no bubbles rising the surface at all.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's a good point. Darcy Weir is the director of
the film trans Medium Puerto Rico's UFOs.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
DARSI were we'll come back to discussing what's in the
video and what you think it shows, But I wanted
to return to the real mystery in your film is
the guy who leaked it? That's what you went down
there to find out. And that's tricky stuff to get
somebody to come forward who might be wondering, who are
these guys? Why do they want to know this? Because
there's no doubt that a lot of folks in powerful
(00:26):
positions did not want that video to be leaked.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Correct, Yeah, that appears to be the case based on
the testimony from this agent. The FBI actually did get
involved and they changed the whole access procedures for people
(00:49):
that worked for CVP with regards to that type of
footage right after this week happened. Essentially, this this guy
was no longer allowed to go to the same areas.
He wasn't allowed to communicate with the same friend who
(01:12):
gave him the footage, who originally recorded it. It was
really let's say, stove piped and kind of like segregated
after that. So they made sure that security was tightened.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Up but in the film, you don't show his face,
you don't use his name. He's obviously got some concern
about what might happen to him. You got to figure
whoever he is. The people who didn't want this out
have zeroed in on it and have identified him in
some way, right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Or do you know?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't, I don't. I mean, we haven't spoken to
him since we left Puerto Rico, and I think we
should obviously follow up is worthy, but we didn't want
to bother him A and B. We just did not
feel like he wanted to say anything more because he
(02:11):
also had that high fear level. So yeah, we kind
of just left it at that. We anonymized them in
the film. But obviously he was working there still and
he met us at his place of work.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So explain to our listeners how it was that he
was on that plane. So these guys do these routine flights,
he was not necessarily part of that individual work group.
Without giving too much info about where he did work
and for whom he was just on there sort of
as a favor from the guys who were on the plane.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So he wasn't actually on the plane. His direct friend
who worked within the CVP. Good friend, let's say, knew
that he had an interest in this type of footage.
Knew that, you know, obviously that there was some activity
(03:15):
worthy of telling this guy, and directly after the event,
the same day, he reached out to this individual that
we met up with, and that guy rushed over, went
into the plane and looked at the footage, and subsequently
(03:37):
he actually asked his friend if he could make a
copy of the footage for him and did yeah, and
he shared that footage with Jorge Martin and that's how
it reached us.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
How nervous was he about talking to you, Yeah, he
was nervous.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
We were in Puerto Rico for a few days and
we just kept following up, kept following up with Jorge
really pushing for the meeting. We weren't sure if we
were going to get it, and he was, you know, hesitant,
(04:19):
and then finally he agreed to meet with us after
he finished a shift at night and at the same
airport it that all this footage was recorded, so we
actually got to see from the ground level where the
UFO was flying over, and quite a large, large area.
(04:43):
It covered a lot of ground, so to speak, really quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Let's get to more specifics then, about the video itself.
I know the guys from SCU did a paper about it.
I've interview Rich Hoffman and others, and really good analysis
about what it is and what it is not. As
you mentioned, there have been debunkers who tried to explain
it away as a balloon, which is preposterous. Describe what
this thing look like? How big you think it is
(05:10):
based on comparisons to other things on the ground and
what it did?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, sure, so the best sort of description of what
it looked like was probably an almond shaped object, and
it was about the size of a car, because you
actually do see it fly quite a bit above a
(05:37):
parking structure area and parking lot, and you could see
these little rectangle structures on the ground. Those are cars.
So if it's flying quite a bit above those and
it's almost the same size of them, you're going to
think it's about the size of a car. It was
(05:58):
almond shaped. It seemed to sort of rotate every now
and then, or kind of like I guess, but not
like in a circular way. It kind of rotated like
a football, would you know what I mean? Like it
twisted and the strange thing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We had a friend, Dave Fulch, do an analysis of
this footage. He's an MX fifteen and other west CAAM
forward looking infrared light camera repair man, so he professionally
sets up these camera systems that are coming off of
(06:47):
CVP planes and repairs them. And he's actually recorded his
own UFO encounter on one of these systems from the ground,
by the way, and he describes the footage as very
anomalist himself, because he knows what a milar balloon looks like,
he knows what the exhaust of a fighter jet would
(07:11):
look like, he knows what a bird would look like,
and this object doesn't look like any of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It also.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Just kind of throws off detection. It almost creates its
shape in a different way as it's flying. And yeah,
it seems to move quite quickly until it gets to
the ocean, goes into the ocean, comes out, it divides
(07:45):
into two and one of those two objects seems to
go down into the ocean. The other one just kind
of floats off, and then the tracking system loses both
of them. So if you don't think that's an intelligence
behind this flying object, you got to be crazy in
(08:08):
my opinion, and.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It doesn't slow down. This thing goes into the water
and it's moving just as fast as it was through
the air, correct, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I mean that's the sort of trans medium characteristic
about it. It operates at the same speed it was
in our gaseous atmosphere as it does when it goes
in the ocean. So the ocean does not seem to
have any friction or impediment to its speed.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So that takes out balloon. There's no balloon that goes
through the ocean like that, that's for sure, right. And secondly,
I mean balloons don't split into two and still float
around up there obviously. Yeah, So then drones could be
a drone, I guess. But drones don't split into two,
and back in twenty thirteen, they didn't go into the ocean.
There were no trans medium drones that we have that
(08:58):
we know of, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And it's a good thing you brought up drones because
a drone would look like a drone in Flear footage
like this. The Flear cameras are very high quality. They
would be able to break down the full shape of
a drone and you would see the heat points around propellers.
This did not have propellers, This did not have the
(09:20):
shape of a typical drone. It just looked like this
almond shaped sort of silvery object that might i add,
was not visible to the ground crew. There were people
walking around below it on the airport tarmac. Was not
a visible to the pilot or any of the people
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It was only.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Visible in flear, which is a characteristic again that constantly
gets reported in UFO footage and people that capture this
type of UFO footage in different light spectrum that the
human eye can't see. These UFOs tend to operate in
a light spectrum that we can't see because they don't
(10:06):
want to be seen. They want to be in cognito.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Describe for me how the government reacts to this. At
the time this guy on the plane has recorded this video,
he lets his friend make a copy of that four
minute or so chunk, and then the friend takes it
away and eventually it gets to SCU and gets out
in the public. What happens in between the other three
(10:33):
other places where this was to have been recorded according
to the system that you described, was it recorded in
all three of those places, or did and did anybody
notice it and pay attention to it or do we know?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, according to the agent, it was recorded in the
other locations and from the mainland Department of Homeland Security
branch that was communicating with this CVP Rent branch, they
reported quite early this was as anomalist that this was
not any craft or known terrestrial technology. So that's what
(11:07):
the CBP, that's what this guy, the anonymous agent, told us.
And then he said the FBI got involved and were
investigating it too locally, and I think that's when they
also created new restrictions so that this agent we spoke
to was not allowed to ever go on to planes
(11:30):
and look at FLEAR footage up close and personal. They
really just started to separate personnel and make sure that
only certain people with certain clearances security clearances were allowed
to see that type of footage. And I think the
(11:51):
same is very very likely happening with DHS right now.
I've spoken to some other people, and you may up
speaking to somebody like Ross Colhart and they can probably
confirm to you that there is a standing order right
now within DHS that they cannot release any footage to
(12:16):
the public or anything that they record is considered basically
classified right.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now, Yeah, that's that's kind of not a surprise at
all that clamped down on it. For sure. I would
still worry for your friend and the guy who allowed
him to make that copy. But I suppose that if
they had not made a copy and leaked it, we
would never have seen it. Or is there a paper trail?
(12:44):
Have you found a paper trail at all?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I have not found a paper trail. But that agent
quite he spoke quite clearly in the documentary that you know,
he's he did this in an altruistic way. He wanted
the world to know how the footage was taken, leaked
(13:12):
and why. And according to him, there's all kinds of
this phenomenon happening all around Puerto Rico. He's spoken to
all kinds of walks of life of Puerto Ricans, fishermen,
other you know, enforcement officers and CVP people that have
(13:34):
witnessed these things. And he's concerned and he thinks it's
really strange. Right, fishermen have seen objects in the water,
lights in the water that you know, they know what
scuba divers look like, but this is not that. And
(13:54):
these objects have been seen exiting the water going into
the water around Porto ric Rico. On top of that,
there have been you know, for lack of a better word, nahi,
non human intelligence sightings for decades now. We were speaking
(14:15):
about the Junkee National Rainforest before, but this has been
seen in the oceans around Puerto Rico. Strange beings seen
at night on the beaches, going into the ocean, coming
out of the ocean, and swimming around sometimes too.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And well, you've got video, you've got video that including
your film that as an additional part of your investigation,
and you track down some people who have had some
up close and personal encounters. And then I don't know
how you got this other video, but it's nighttime, this
bluish light in the in the ocean, and people are
recording it on their cell phone.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, fishermen, believe it or not, we're recording that. And
that seems to be the common theme in Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rican fishermen see this all the time, and that
blue object. It starts as that they keep tracking it,
and they keep following it on a boat until you see,
(15:20):
I think at one point when they're a little bit
closer to the shore, you actually see like this human
aid figure hovering through the light. Now, I have heard
somebody recently sent a link a friend on Twitter thinking
that that was actually a dive group that and this
dive group actually claimed that video to be them. But
(15:43):
I'm a scuba diver. I've been scuba diving since I
was fifteen. I know what light refraction looks like from
the surface and what somebody a scuba diver should look
like if they had a light source under the water
and they were swimming nearby. Nowhere in that footage does
(16:04):
it look like scuba diver or a group of scuba divers,
because the number one thing that's missing in that footage
from beginning to end are bubbles rising to the surface.
You have to have something you're breathing with underwater, and
there's no bubbles rising the surface at all.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's a good point. Darcy Weir is the director of
the film trans Medium Puerto Rico's UFOs.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
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