October 2, 2025 • 20 mins
George Noory and Dr. Michael Salla explore the ongoing roadblocks to official UFO disclosure, why whistleblower reports of extraterrestrials made in congressional hearings are rarely followed up on, and that aliens may have already made contact with world leaders but will not reveal themselves until our technology is more advanced.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor with you.
Let me tell you about doctor Michael O. Sala, internationally
recognized scholar who is taught at the universities in the
US and Australia, including the American University in Washington, d C. Today,
he is most popularly known as a pioneer in the
development of the field of exopolitics, the study of main
(00:27):
actors and institutions associated with the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
His books include US Army Insider Missions, US Air Force
Secret Space Program, and his website is linked up at
Coast tocoastdam dot com. Michael, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
How have you been, thanks Jorje. I'm doing well.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Moved from Hawaii, living in Key West these days.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Big move. When did you do that?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I did that about three years ago, Key West, January
of last year.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And it's lovely out here.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's not bad, not bad at all. What's you know
in the world of actual politics, Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, there's a lot to.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Report at a in terms of lots of events happening
concerning UFO disclosure in the US Congress and the official
interest growing, but yet nothing concrete has been achieved in
(01:33):
terms of the public learning the truth. We just we're
getting more information, we're getting more whistleblowers coming out, more
members of Congress are taking it seriously, but no official
statements from the executive branch that all this is real.
So we're still we're still kind of struggling to make progress.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Do you think we'll ever get the answer from government?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I think we will.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I think it's we're in the midst of some kind
of process. There seems to be like a two steps forward,
one step back process happening here. And exactly why that's happening,
that is the question many of us are asking. I mean,
we've been having ever since the hearings began in the
(02:28):
US Congress, public interest and legacy media interest in UFOs
has really taken off, but yet we haven't made any
real progress in following up what the whistleblowers have said
in these hearings. In twenty twenty three July, you had
(02:51):
David Grush come forward, and he really broke new ground
when he was saying that he was aware of up
to forty different insiders and whistleblowers who had first hand
knowledge on UFO crash retrieval operations, corporate reverse engineering projects, and.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
The existence of non human intelligence.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
So that was kind of like, to my mind, the
higher watermark in the official disclosure efforts, because now, all
of a sudden, you had people at high levels in
Congress and legacy media talking about these types of esoteric
issues that others have been speaking about for decades but
(03:41):
never were taken seriously. Now, all of a sudden, it's
big news. And so we were expecting that Congress would
follow up and hold further hearings and get more information
and get more facts concerning these UFO crash retrieval operations.
Since David Grush came forward, it's it's kind of like
(04:03):
going backwards. It's taken a step back, And of course
then there's this proposed legislation, the up Disclosure Act, which
has had a kind of similar fate.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The fact that it's taken a step back. You think
that was by design or accident.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I don't believe it was an accident or I think
it is by design, and I wouldn't blame it on
the usual actors. I mean, I think people might say, well,
this was a deep state action. This was taken by
those that have long been in favor of secrecy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But there's good reason.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
To think that maybe even the white hats, those that
are in favor of disclosure, are looking at what is
before us, and maybe they're thinking that maybe we need
to slow this down a bit, Maybe we need to
get the public to a certain place first before all
(05:12):
of this is disclosed, because of the potential for a
kind of like societal back breakdown, because I imagine that
there would be a lot of angry people who are saying, well,
this was kept from us for decades, and some of
these technologies are life saving. I mean people might say, well,
(05:38):
my uncle or grandmother would have been saved if these
advanced technologies are dealing with health were released years ago,
in fact, but instead they were kept secret for all
this time.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I think it was twenty seventeen when The New York
Times came out with a story about the abs UFO videos.
The tech tags that changed a lot of things, didn't it,
they Michael, It sure did.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That was really the beginning that opened the door to
official interest in the UFO issue. Prior to that, as
you well know, I mean, there's been lots of researchers
and whistleblowers and experiences who have come forward and talked
about UFOs extraterstrial life. But there was very little public
(06:32):
attention and within the US Congress there was almost no
interest at all. It was like a career loser. But
after twenty seventeen, after those articles came out in the
New York Times in Politico, it signified a shift. It
signified that you could be in Congress or in the
(06:54):
legacy media and you could talk about these topics and
it would actually be okay.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You wouldn't lose you career over it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And so that was a big shift. And so after
that you had the beginning of these congressional hearings in
twenty twenty two. I believe the first one was held
since the nineteen sixties, so we're talking like over a
fifty year span. Between these congressional UFO hearings, you had
(07:27):
the creation of a task force by the Navy, the
UAP Task Force.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And then that evolved.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Into what's today called the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office,
which in theory should be kind of leading the charge
in having whistleblowers coming forward talking about what they know
on the UFO issue. But in fact, the Raw Office
(07:58):
has been a big disappointment. Rather than encouraging and protecting
whistle blowers, it's been hindering them and pretty much kind
of like filtering out their testimonies, like that the whistleblowers
are heard, but then their their testimonies are just kind
of like put away in a file cabinet and not
(08:19):
released to the public for lack of evidence. And of course,
I mean, the whole point of whistleblowers coming forward is
to generate interest so that the evidence can be found
through investigations. But if you're just going to lock away
the whistleblower testimonies because of lack of evidence, then you're
(08:40):
not You're not really going to move the UFO disclosure
process forward much at all. And so the Error Office
has been heavily criticized, especially especially under its first director,
Sean Kirkpatrick, and the present director doesn't seem to be
changing the kind of like stance or the position of
(09:03):
the Error Office much at all.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's almost as if they're saying to themselves, what am
I doing here?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, yeah, it seems to be conflicting kind of priorities there.
I mean, on the one hand, they're supposed to screen
whistleblowers and protect them so that they can come forward
and share their testimony.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But on the other hand, they.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Are taking the approach that while without any hard evidence,
then we're not going to share these stories, and so
they just fall back on the more traditional UFO sidings.
And you know, frankly, I mean, there are tens of
thousands of UFO sidings and none of those really have
(09:53):
shifted the debate all that much. What's going to shift
things is for people like David Grash to come forward
and to be able to safely disclose what they know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I assume the Error of Office has been shut
down because of the shutdown of a government, right.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, there you go. I mean, that's right, that's probably
one of the non essential branches of government that has
been shut down at the moment.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I mean, obviously, I think the funding will start flowing
again at some point and these non essential government entities
will begin functioning again. Now, there have been some people
that call for the permanent shutdown of the Error Office
because it's failed to really protect whistleblowers. But I think
(10:53):
that the Error Office does perform, or has the potential
to perform a vital function, but it's not being allowed to.
And that's where we get to this question of, well,
who's really slowing down the disclosure process? You know, what
are they waiting for? I think they are waiting for
a major event, because ultimately, the officer of the President,
(11:19):
I mean, President Trump can just with a few words
change things dramatically. But he's been silent on the UFO issue,
and I think that's because he's been advised not to
talk about it at the moment because it's not the
right time. Isn't here yet for the kind of disclosure
(11:40):
that people are looking for, So you know, we're just
having to wait. But I think when the time is right,
I think you'll get announcements from the Office of the President.
And that's going to be when we really head into
this official disclosure ter tory.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Who does the Arrow Office report to? What agencies?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Wake on?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The Arrow Office reports to the Pentagon and to the
Office of the Director of National Intelligence, So it's kind
of like jointly run and so it's kind of like
a mid you're kind of mid to seeing a bureaucratic
(12:29):
kind of reporting mechanism. What we really need is an
office that reports directly to the president, but that hasn't
yet happened. I mean, that was one of the things
that was supposed to happen with the passage of the
(12:49):
UAP Disclosure Act. It was going to create a panel
of nine experts who would go through the UFO data
and decide what should be released to the president. And
so they would make recommendations, and the President would get
those recommendations and then decide what should or shouldn't be disclosed.
(13:16):
So the Error Office doesn't have that capacity yet. It
really is just reporting to Pentagon officials. I think, like
the Assistant Secretary of Defense or War if you call
whatever you want to call it. Now that I believe
(13:39):
it's Kathleen Hicks, that the Error Office ultimately reports to her.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So it really doesn't have any autonomy, does it.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Not?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Really?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
No, I mean it can be stymied at different levels
by officials within the bureaucracy. So if someone within the
Office of Kathleen Hicks is leaned on in some way
to stifle the Arrow Office or give it kind of
directives that make it ineffective, like what we're seeing that
(14:16):
you know, they're not really supporting whistle blowers they're hindering
them and making life difficult for them, and which is
discouraging whistle blows from coming forward, and so that kind
of slows down the whole disclosure process. Because whistleblowers who
come from the intelligence community or the Department of Defense,
(14:38):
I mean, these people have careers. I mean you look
at someone like David Grash. I mean he was a
fourteen year Air Force veteran and he achieved a kind
of senior rank within the bureaucracy, but in becoming a whistleblower,
his career was pretty much destroyed. And others look at
(14:58):
that and say, well, what's to stop that from happening
to me? If I come forward and talk about what
I know of UFO crash retrieval programs and reverse engineering
of recovered technologies and non human intelligence.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Michael, how much of the administration do you think they know?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I think within the administration there are people in particular positions,
especially in the National Security Council, that are reading to
these programs because I think a lot of these programs
are actually run by the corporate world. Now, I mean,
(15:44):
they're the ones that are actually studying the material recovered
from UFO crashes and they're the ones that are doing
the reverse engineering, and so they managed by officials within
the National Security Council. The funding comes through the Pentagon
(16:08):
because the Pentagon has that capacity to be able to
send funds to whatever unacknowledged special access programs it wants
without there being any kind of real congressional oversight. So
the funding comes through the Pentagon, but the actual management
(16:29):
is coming from the National Security Council, but not necessarily
from the President himself. And that's where it gets tricky,
because in theory, the National Security Council should be reporting
directly to the President and the president should have a
handle on what is happening in programs being managed by
(16:53):
the National Security Council. But the way it's evolved is
that the National Security Council is pretty autonomous in terms
of how these programs are actually being managed, and the
(17:13):
president has a lot of difficulty get gaining access as
we've seen from the past. I mean, Bill Clinton is
a good example of a president that was very interested
in the UFO issue, but he was styied. He was
prevented from gaining any genuine information about it, and that's
(17:37):
because there were officials within the National Security Council who
would not report to him that they were in fact
reporting to another group which is associated with the Majestic
twelve group that has long been the secret management group
(17:57):
in charge of all of these Treustraal related projects.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
How much do you think the ninety two year old
Israeli professor HAIMI Ashed knows?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Well, you know, there's a good example of someone who
has worked for more than three decades in the spy
satellite program of Israel and working with high level organizations
(18:30):
in the US doing similar works, such as the National
Reconnaissance Office, And this is the kind of official who
would know. And in fact, he made waves back in
twenty twenty. I think it was in December when he
actually did an interview after the release of his memoirs
(18:57):
where he said that President Trump was in communication with
the Galactic Federation and that Trump was told by the
Federation that at the time hadn't arrived yet for disclosure,
that we were not technologically advanced enough. And what that
(19:18):
meant was that the level of technology in that is
used widely in our world. And here we can talk
about say fossil fuels used to power rockets, sell or
for petroleum for powering cars and so forth. That was
an example of the kind of technology that is still
(19:42):
very primitive by extraterstrial standards, and that for US to
be ready for disclosure of extraterstrial life and organizations like
the Galactic Federation, we had to move on to more
evolve technology.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor with you.
Let me tell you about doctor Michael O. Sala, internationally
recognized scholar who is taught at the universities in the
US and Australia, including the American University in Washington, d C. Today,
he is most popularly known as a pioneer in the
development of the field of exopolitics, the study of main
(00:27):
actors and institutions associated with the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
His books include US Army Insider Missions, US Air Force
Secret Space Program, and his website is linked up at
Coast tocoastdam dot com. Michael, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
How have you been, thanks Jorje. I'm doing well.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Moved from Hawaii, living in Key West these days.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Big move. When did you do that?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I did that about three years ago, Key West, January
of last year.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And it's lovely out here.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's not bad, not bad at all. What's you know
in the world of actual politics, Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, there's a lot to.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Report at a in terms of lots of events happening
concerning UFO disclosure in the US Congress and the official
interest growing, but yet nothing concrete has been achieved in
(01:33):
terms of the public learning the truth. We just we're
getting more information, we're getting more whistleblowers coming out, more
members of Congress are taking it seriously, but no official
statements from the executive branch that all this is real.
So we're still we're still kind of struggling to make progress.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Do you think we'll ever get the answer from government?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I think we will.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I think it's we're in the midst of some kind
of process. There seems to be like a two steps forward,
one step back process happening here. And exactly why that's happening,
that is the question many of us are asking. I mean,
we've been having ever since the hearings began in the
(02:28):
US Congress, public interest and legacy media interest in UFOs
has really taken off, but yet we haven't made any
real progress in following up what the whistleblowers have said
in these hearings. In twenty twenty three July, you had
(02:51):
David Grush come forward, and he really broke new ground
when he was saying that he was aware of up
to forty different insiders and whistleblowers who had first hand
knowledge on UFO crash retrieval operations, corporate reverse engineering projects, and.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
The existence of non human intelligence.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
So that was kind of like, to my mind, the
higher watermark in the official disclosure efforts, because now, all
of a sudden, you had people at high levels in
Congress and legacy media talking about these types of esoteric
issues that others have been speaking about for decades but
(03:41):
never were taken seriously. Now, all of a sudden, it's
big news. And so we were expecting that Congress would
follow up and hold further hearings and get more information
and get more facts concerning these UFO crash retrieval operations.
Since David Grush came forward, it's it's kind of like
(04:03):
going backwards. It's taken a step back, And of course
then there's this proposed legislation, the up Disclosure Act, which
has had a kind of similar fate.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The fact that it's taken a step back. You think
that was by design or accident.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I don't believe it was an accident or I think
it is by design, and I wouldn't blame it on
the usual actors. I mean, I think people might say, well,
this was a deep state action. This was taken by
those that have long been in favor of secrecy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But there's good reason.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
To think that maybe even the white hats, those that
are in favor of disclosure, are looking at what is
before us, and maybe they're thinking that maybe we need
to slow this down a bit, Maybe we need to
get the public to a certain place first before all
(05:12):
of this is disclosed, because of the potential for a
kind of like societal back breakdown, because I imagine that
there would be a lot of angry people who are saying, well,
this was kept from us for decades, and some of
these technologies are life saving. I mean people might say, well,
(05:38):
my uncle or grandmother would have been saved if these
advanced technologies are dealing with health were released years ago,
in fact, but instead they were kept secret for all
this time.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I think it was twenty seventeen when The New York
Times came out with a story about the abs UFO videos.
The tech tags that changed a lot of things, didn't it,
they Michael, It sure did.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That was really the beginning that opened the door to
official interest in the UFO issue. Prior to that, as
you well know, I mean, there's been lots of researchers
and whistleblowers and experiences who have come forward and talked
about UFOs extraterstrial life. But there was very little public
(06:32):
attention and within the US Congress there was almost no
interest at all. It was like a career loser. But
after twenty seventeen, after those articles came out in the
New York Times in Politico, it signified a shift. It
signified that you could be in Congress or in the
(06:54):
legacy media and you could talk about these topics and
it would actually be okay.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You wouldn't lose you career over it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And so that was a big shift. And so after
that you had the beginning of these congressional hearings in
twenty twenty two. I believe the first one was held
since the nineteen sixties, so we're talking like over a
fifty year span. Between these congressional UFO hearings, you had
(07:27):
the creation of a task force by the Navy, the
UAP Task Force.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And then that evolved.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Into what's today called the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office,
which in theory should be kind of leading the charge
in having whistleblowers coming forward talking about what they know
on the UFO issue. But in fact, the Raw Office
(07:58):
has been a big disappointment. Rather than encouraging and protecting
whistle blowers, it's been hindering them and pretty much kind
of like filtering out their testimonies, like that the whistleblowers
are heard, but then their their testimonies are just kind
of like put away in a file cabinet and not
(08:19):
released to the public for lack of evidence. And of course,
I mean, the whole point of whistleblowers coming forward is
to generate interest so that the evidence can be found
through investigations. But if you're just going to lock away
the whistleblower testimonies because of lack of evidence, then you're
(08:40):
not You're not really going to move the UFO disclosure
process forward much at all. And so the Error Office
has been heavily criticized, especially especially under its first director,
Sean Kirkpatrick, and the present director doesn't seem to be
changing the kind of like stance or the position of
(09:03):
the Error Office much at all.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's almost as if they're saying to themselves, what am
I doing here?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, yeah, it seems to be conflicting kind of priorities there.
I mean, on the one hand, they're supposed to screen
whistleblowers and protect them so that they can come forward
and share their testimony.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But on the other hand, they.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Are taking the approach that while without any hard evidence,
then we're not going to share these stories, and so
they just fall back on the more traditional UFO sidings.
And you know, frankly, I mean, there are tens of
thousands of UFO sidings and none of those really have
(09:53):
shifted the debate all that much. What's going to shift
things is for people like David Grash to come forward
and to be able to safely disclose what they know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I assume the Error of Office has been shut
down because of the shutdown of a government, right.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, there you go. I mean, that's right, that's probably
one of the non essential branches of government that has
been shut down at the moment.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I mean, obviously, I think the funding will start flowing
again at some point and these non essential government entities
will begin functioning again. Now, there have been some people
that call for the permanent shutdown of the Error Office
because it's failed to really protect whistleblowers. But I think
(10:53):
that the Error Office does perform, or has the potential
to perform a vital function, but it's not being allowed to.
And that's where we get to this question of, well,
who's really slowing down the disclosure process? You know, what
are they waiting for? I think they are waiting for
a major event, because ultimately, the officer of the President,
(11:19):
I mean, President Trump can just with a few words
change things dramatically. But he's been silent on the UFO issue,
and I think that's because he's been advised not to
talk about it at the moment because it's not the
right time. Isn't here yet for the kind of disclosure
(11:40):
that people are looking for, So you know, we're just
having to wait. But I think when the time is right,
I think you'll get announcements from the Office of the President.
And that's going to be when we really head into
this official disclosure ter tory.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Who does the Arrow Office report to? What agencies?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Wake on?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The Arrow Office reports to the Pentagon and to the
Office of the Director of National Intelligence, So it's kind
of like jointly run and so it's kind of like
a mid you're kind of mid to seeing a bureaucratic
(12:29):
kind of reporting mechanism. What we really need is an
office that reports directly to the president, but that hasn't
yet happened. I mean, that was one of the things
that was supposed to happen with the passage of the
(12:49):
UAP Disclosure Act. It was going to create a panel
of nine experts who would go through the UFO data
and decide what should be released to the president. And
so they would make recommendations, and the President would get
those recommendations and then decide what should or shouldn't be disclosed.
(13:16):
So the Error Office doesn't have that capacity yet. It
really is just reporting to Pentagon officials. I think, like
the Assistant Secretary of Defense or War if you call
whatever you want to call it. Now that I believe
(13:39):
it's Kathleen Hicks, that the Error Office ultimately reports to her.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So it really doesn't have any autonomy, does it.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Not?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Really?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
No, I mean it can be stymied at different levels
by officials within the bureaucracy. So if someone within the
Office of Kathleen Hicks is leaned on in some way
to stifle the Arrow Office or give it kind of
directives that make it ineffective, like what we're seeing that
(14:16):
you know, they're not really supporting whistle blowers they're hindering
them and making life difficult for them, and which is
discouraging whistle blows from coming forward, and so that kind
of slows down the whole disclosure process. Because whistleblowers who
come from the intelligence community or the Department of Defense,
(14:38):
I mean, these people have careers. I mean you look
at someone like David Grash. I mean he was a
fourteen year Air Force veteran and he achieved a kind
of senior rank within the bureaucracy, but in becoming a whistleblower,
his career was pretty much destroyed. And others look at
(14:58):
that and say, well, what's to stop that from happening
to me? If I come forward and talk about what
I know of UFO crash retrieval programs and reverse engineering
of recovered technologies and non human intelligence.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Michael, how much of the administration do you think they know?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I think within the administration there are people in particular positions,
especially in the National Security Council, that are reading to
these programs because I think a lot of these programs
are actually run by the corporate world. Now, I mean,
(15:44):
they're the ones that are actually studying the material recovered
from UFO crashes and they're the ones that are doing
the reverse engineering, and so they managed by officials within
the National Security Council. The funding comes through the Pentagon
(16:08):
because the Pentagon has that capacity to be able to
send funds to whatever unacknowledged special access programs it wants
without there being any kind of real congressional oversight. So
the funding comes through the Pentagon, but the actual management
(16:29):
is coming from the National Security Council, but not necessarily
from the President himself. And that's where it gets tricky,
because in theory, the National Security Council should be reporting
directly to the President and the president should have a
handle on what is happening in programs being managed by
(16:53):
the National Security Council. But the way it's evolved is
that the National Security Council is pretty autonomous in terms
of how these programs are actually being managed, and the
(17:13):
president has a lot of difficulty get gaining access as
we've seen from the past. I mean, Bill Clinton is
a good example of a president that was very interested
in the UFO issue, but he was styied. He was
prevented from gaining any genuine information about it, and that's
(17:37):
because there were officials within the National Security Council who
would not report to him that they were in fact
reporting to another group which is associated with the Majestic
twelve group that has long been the secret management group
(17:57):
in charge of all of these Treustraal related projects.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
How much do you think the ninety two year old
Israeli professor HAIMI Ashed knows?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Well, you know, there's a good example of someone who
has worked for more than three decades in the spy
satellite program of Israel and working with high level organizations
(18:30):
in the US doing similar works, such as the National
Reconnaissance Office, And this is the kind of official who
would know. And in fact, he made waves back in
twenty twenty. I think it was in December when he
actually did an interview after the release of his memoirs
(18:57):
where he said that President Trump was in communication with
the Galactic Federation and that Trump was told by the
Federation that at the time hadn't arrived yet for disclosure,
that we were not technologically advanced enough. And what that
(19:18):
meant was that the level of technology in that is
used widely in our world. And here we can talk
about say fossil fuels used to power rockets, sell or
for petroleum for powering cars and so forth. That was
an example of the kind of technology that is still
(19:42):
very primitive by extraterstrial standards, and that for US to
be ready for disclosure of extraterstrial life and organizations like
the Galactic Federation, we had to move on to more
evolve technology.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
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