August 12, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and actor Thomas Jane discuss his successful career in Hollywood, as well as his longtime interest in UFOs and alien contact after his own encounter with a non-human entity, and his belief that aliens may be visiting Earth from other dimensions and controlling our belief systems.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you.
We've got a fascinating program for you. Thomas Jane with us.
Great actor. A few of his films include The Mist,
Deep Blue, c The Punisher. I loved him in a
TV movie called sixty one. I'll tell you about that
in a second. He's been a director, producer. Thomas Jane
has been nin Tindeltown for over twenty five years. He
(00:26):
is a triple Golden Globe nominee one Critical acclaim for
his role as the New York Yankee baseball legend Mickey
Mannal in that movie sixty one. And we're here to
talk about UFOs tonight. I'm Coast to Coast Thomas. Welcome.
It's a pleasure to have you on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Honor to be here. George. I'm a long time listener,
the first time caller.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I just missed you at Contact in the Desert a
couple months ago.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That was a blast. It's my second time going and
I got to tell you the field is changing fast.
They great minds. We were getting involved in this, uh
this endeavor which is you know, less crazy by the
by the minute.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And Thomas, I want to talk a little bit about
your career. How did you get involved in listening in
on the UFOs?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
How do I get involved with the UFOs?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, how'd that happen?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh boy, yeah, it's I'm I'm kind of as astonished
as as you sound when you asked me that question.
I uh, I just got to be honest. I had
I had an experience. I had an experience about fifteen
years ago, twenty and eleven, and it threw me for
(01:46):
a look. Like millions of people, I have discovered that
I'm not alone in this thing, but it just sent
me down a rabbit hole. You know. I had an
encounter with what we can only describe as some sort
of non human inteligence. Okay, blew up my life. I
(02:08):
haven't talked about it. I don't like talking about it,
but I am finishing a book on it. And I'm
reflected in the last fifteen years sort of since my
encounter happened in my house, in my home that completely
threw me for a loop that I never saw coming.
And you know, I was an artist. I left home
(02:31):
at the age of sixteen. I moved out to you know,
I turned seventeen in India, where I made a film
in Bollywood. I turned eighteen in San Francisco. I went
to acting school and did some street theater. I turned
nineteen in Los Angeles and I've kind of been there
(02:52):
on and off ever since. I found a niche doing
what I love to do. I got married, I had
a kid, and more than life she's twenty two now.
The best friends and she's gone on to have her
own career as an actor, and I could not be
more proud of her. And I talked to her about everything.
(03:14):
You know, We've got one of those relationships, which I'm
grateful for. But the one thing that I have not
really spoken to her about except in the briefest of ways,
is this experience that sort of changed my life. She's
you know, I've come to realize that we are spiritual
(03:36):
beings having a biological experience. I didn't always think that
before twenty eleven, certain, but I was shown that that
was the case. I think that's something we all do
in our own way, this sort of journey towards some
sort of enlightenment, and the rest of it appears to
(03:57):
be sharing the journey with our fellow man, so that
the people who are just ahead of us and people
just behind us on the path can see some sort
of beacon, some sort of way forward. You know. The
beacons are there, and it's up to us to see
them and to shine them as best as we can,
(04:19):
you know, and sometimes we get let down, let down
some dark and lonely paths. But if it keeps seekings
give you have an affinity for the truth in your heart,
and you will find that truth in the world. You've
got no answers for anybody but me, But I've learned
that the search for non human intelligence and what that
(04:44):
means is it personal, private, sacred journey.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And that book that you're working on, is that the
one called A Humans Guide to Visiting Aliens?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's right, yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, we'll have to get your back when the book
comes out.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I A. And then up now I'm excited about it.
You know, finishing the book is no mean feet.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Then what was that big moment in your career Thomas,
that you knew you made it?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, that moment that I made it? I uh, I've
never really looked at it that way, but the but
I have looked at the moment that I could take
off my apron for being a bus boy and uh
and start making a living. That happened sometime after Bookie
Nights and ninety seven ninety eight something like that. Uh
(05:33):
you know when when, because every every time I got
an acting job, I'd quit whatever job I happen to
be doing, whether that was a Mongolian barbecue chef, or
handing out balloons for a car wash place on Melrose
or whatever, you know, sweeping up clubs after after hours
at four and morning, I'd quit whatever job I had
(05:57):
and live off the paycheck until I had to go
get another job.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's do you know John Hamm, by any chance.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
M wonderful actor, wonderful actor. You know they actually offered
me that show mad Men.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He waited on tables in Saint Louis before he decided
to make it big, and look what happened with him.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's right, an actor out on loan is you know.
Jim Morrison used to say.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You used to sleep in your car. That's how determined
you were right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You're right about that. Yes I did, Yeah, yeah, I
was slept in my car. I slept on the park benches.
I did odd jobs, you know. The only real difference.
I went to a lot of acting schools. I was
determined to get the skills that I needed to do
the job. And the only difference I saw was that
(06:53):
the other guys who were just as talented as me
in class, the ones that had a back up, you know,
like you know, I do books and I'm also studying
to be an economist or whatever. They're the ones that
ended up being an economist, you know, or the restaurant
the manager. Uh So, I made a point to not
(07:16):
have a plan B, George, and that's kind of it's
kind of done well, and must plan B.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The road not taking Thomas, and you did it. My friend.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
M very grateful. I'm very grateful to to do something
that I love, you know. And that really is the
bottom line. Doesn't matter what it is if you've got
a passion for it, if you have an understanding that
you feel like you're giving some making a contribution, and
you're doing your part and you can sleep easy at night.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
And how deeply are you involved now in the UFO possibility?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I would say that I'm just about as deep as
you can get, you know, That's what I it is,
It is something that kind of takes over, uh and
becomes sort of the background of everything. You know, I
guess because it's uh, well, I have learned the UFO
(08:17):
community is nuts out of their mind. But that doesn't
mean they're wrong, you know. I found that it's it's
kind of the cranks and the weirdos. As Stephen Hawking said,
you know, if UFOs are real widely appear only to
cranks and weirdos, that's because the outsiders have less to lose,
(08:39):
and they're they're more willing to talk about it, the
more willing to stand on the front lines and you know,
raise the red flag. You know. But but the mainstream
is now fladding into the cracks and filling the pots,
you know, the old school ufology. I have a feeling
(09:00):
that's going to change, you know. I have a feeling
as this becomes gentrified, it will become uphology will be renamed,
just like they you know, found a new names for
UAP or extrasensory perception psionics. That's a new name. I
think euthology will also be renamed and gentrified to the comedy.
(09:24):
The academics and the scientists, and then the corporations, well.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The interest is amazing, Thomas indicative. With just the crowd
that showed up at Contact in the Desert this year,
I mean it was huge.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Huge, and completely. You know, we've opened the doors to
a new uh and that's exactly what we need. We
need scholars, we need academics, we need our best minds
working on this. And the mission now is to open
those doors wider as wide as we can will allow
(10:00):
to give permission to the you know, to the pencil
necks and then and the guys with the track pocket
protectors to come in and and then and see what
they can see what they can learn and discover and
find that out and share with us.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You look at a lot of the work of the
expert researcher Jacques Vallet. Tell us about what you say
alien control systems might be.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, yeah, I've become interested in uh in these in
what Vallet said is is an alien control system? Yeah.
I suppose you could say, well, let's talk a little
bit about Jaques Valley. He was a UFO researcher.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
He's just he was. He is a systems feerist, a
computer scientist, a philosopher, and back in the seventies Valets
suggested that UFO events are part of a system subtly
influencing human behavior, right, and our manipulating human consciousness in
(11:15):
our beliefs. Called it a control system, you know, being
a computer guy, he called them cybernetics. You know, this
alien control system was non obvious, it was adaptive, and
it used feedback groups like cybernetics. You know, that's from
(11:37):
the Greek for steersman governor cybernetics that was developed in
the mid twentieth century to explore how living organisms and
machines learn and gaped to their environments. Right, So it
includes feedback and the control mechanisms and information flow. And
(11:59):
his analogy was the thermostat automated system regulates uh, right,
the uh the temperature in the house, that it gets
too hot, AC kicks on. If it gets too warm,
the AC kicks on and it gets too too cooled
and the heater kicks on. And and he said that
(12:23):
look like that, similar to that, or or similar to
the gyroscope and the rocket the controls and steers the rocket.
That this UFOs were regulating our human bold systems and
human consciousness.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
This dramatic, Thomas, it really is. Vala was one of
the best and believe that they were coming from another dimension,
didn't he?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Oh yeah, you know, he he was not in he
was He took a lot of flag for the uh
uh questioning the the extraterrestrial hypothesis and said, man, this
is just too strange. She said, he'd be disappointed if
we found out that this non human intelligence was, you know,
(13:12):
flying across space and aluminum tableware. Yeah, that'll be upsetting. Uh,
you know, and he took a lot of flag Ford.
But you know, I am starting to come around if
it's a similar idea. You know that this is this
is a lot stranger than we uh or at least
it opens up dimensions of doors, the doors of perception,
(13:37):
doors of reality. That's that we as a society have
yet to fully accept.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm still puzzled by the nineteen forty seven Rush crash.
That these vehicles come millions and millions of miles and
then they crash.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Why. Yeah, that's that's a Burlison asked that in twenty
twenty three. He said, why do they Why? Why? He
asked that very question, you know, And I'm starting to think,
based on the interesting sort of developments that have happened,
they were just the last you know, through four years
(14:17):
that maybe aliens don't crash their drones, do their control
system they know, breakdown. And I would say that with
all the crashes, and if you go to Stringfield studied,
(14:40):
you know, I think he cataloged about one hundred and
nineteen UFO crash retrievals right, one of them Ryan Wood
with magic guys only they cataloged about one hundred and four.
You know, Michael Schratt who's sort of the UFO crash
retrieval expert today, he said that there's a lot of overlap,
(15:04):
but at least seventy five are unique crash retrievals, and
that's a lot of crashes. That's a lot of crashes.
But in all those, to my knowledge, I have not
heard of a single crane Lincus or a Reptilian or
(15:28):
the Nordics involved in one of those crashes. But what
we do get is is what David Grush called biologics.
You know, these little guys who we were in the
Roswell crash who Corso Corso said, we're Colonel Corso said
(15:53):
we're drones. He said they were identical, they were sexless,
and they they were relic just like drones. And in
twenty twenty three, uh, we had that that, which personally
I find really interesting. The guy came out on Reddit,
(16:15):
the microbiologists, who said that he studied the alien genetics
from what you could call legacy crashes or you know,
bodies that have been in the freezer for a few decades,
and they had the technology of the two thousands, after
they had created the Munian Genome project, they finally sequenced
(16:36):
human genome. And he said that when they were studying
the genes of these uh, these little guys, they were
created using human and animal genes from Earth. And that
tells me that they are biologics. They're drones, They are
(17:01):
bio robotic organisms created on Earth to as part of
this this sort of network it's been sort of set up.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
You think, do you think the beings themselves are robotic?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I think that those beings are biological androids. You know
that that's what they appear to be, and they appear
to be created right here on Earth. So those are
the maybe are the guys that crash, not the aliens themselves,
(17:42):
because you know, the only crash I can think of,
and this is I haven't been able to look into
this very deeply. Only very many people have. But the
nineteen thirty three crash in Italy, apparently at least the
rumor is maybe that that's somebody says that maybe it's
(18:04):
Kannate who studied the Tellian who study this stuff, said
that they may have been wordics, But I don't know
about that, and that would be the only crash out
of you know, seventy five that we've got many reports
that there may have been. Uh what Eric Davis said
recently were the four sort of name species that appeared
(18:30):
to be involved, you know, permanently sort of installed around
our planet, you know as the graves praying manas, and
then the human esque human es I call them human
s or you know they look like Calvin Crime models.
There they're human if you walk down the street, you never.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Can Thomas, how much of the knowledge do you think
of and know? And they're just not telling us.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, I mean to cut to the chase. I think
that they they I suspect and Vallet suspected the same
it was writing in the seventies. I'm not sure it
has changed that a team, but that they know much
less than we would and they would like us to believe.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you.
We've got a fascinating program for you. Thomas Jane with us.
Great actor. A few of his films include The Mist,
Deep Blue, c The Punisher. I loved him in a
TV movie called sixty one. I'll tell you about that
in a second. He's been a director, producer. Thomas Jane
has been nin Tindeltown for over twenty five years. He
(00:26):
is a triple Golden Globe nominee one Critical acclaim for
his role as the New York Yankee baseball legend Mickey
Mannal in that movie sixty one. And we're here to
talk about UFOs tonight. I'm Coast to Coast Thomas. Welcome.
It's a pleasure to have you on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Honor to be here. George. I'm a long time listener,
the first time caller.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I just missed you at Contact in the Desert a
couple months ago.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That was a blast. It's my second time going and
I got to tell you the field is changing fast.
They great minds. We were getting involved in this, uh
this endeavor which is you know, less crazy by the
by the minute.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And Thomas, I want to talk a little bit about
your career. How did you get involved in listening in
on the UFOs?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
How do I get involved with the UFOs?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, how'd that happen?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh boy, yeah, it's I'm I'm kind of as astonished
as as you sound when you asked me that question.
I uh, I just got to be honest. I had
I had an experience. I had an experience about fifteen
years ago, twenty and eleven, and it threw me for
(01:46):
a look. Like millions of people, I have discovered that
I'm not alone in this thing, but it just sent
me down a rabbit hole. You know. I had an
encounter with what we can only describe as some sort
of non human inteligence. Okay, blew up my life. I
(02:08):
haven't talked about it. I don't like talking about it,
but I am finishing a book on it. And I'm
reflected in the last fifteen years sort of since my
encounter happened in my house, in my home that completely
threw me for a loop that I never saw coming.
And you know, I was an artist. I left home
(02:31):
at the age of sixteen. I moved out to you know,
I turned seventeen in India, where I made a film
in Bollywood. I turned eighteen in San Francisco. I went
to acting school and did some street theater. I turned
nineteen in Los Angeles and I've kind of been there
(02:52):
on and off ever since. I found a niche doing
what I love to do. I got married, I had
a kid, and more than life she's twenty two now.
The best friends and she's gone on to have her
own career as an actor, and I could not be
more proud of her. And I talked to her about everything.
(03:14):
You know, We've got one of those relationships, which I'm
grateful for. But the one thing that I have not
really spoken to her about except in the briefest of ways,
is this experience that sort of changed my life. She's
you know, I've come to realize that we are spiritual
(03:36):
beings having a biological experience. I didn't always think that
before twenty eleven, certain, but I was shown that that
was the case. I think that's something we all do
in our own way, this sort of journey towards some
sort of enlightenment, and the rest of it appears to
(03:57):
be sharing the journey with our fellow man, so that
the people who are just ahead of us and people
just behind us on the path can see some sort
of beacon, some sort of way forward. You know. The
beacons are there, and it's up to us to see
them and to shine them as best as we can,
(04:19):
you know, and sometimes we get let down, let down
some dark and lonely paths. But if it keeps seekings
give you have an affinity for the truth in your heart,
and you will find that truth in the world. You've
got no answers for anybody but me, But I've learned
that the search for non human intelligence and what that
(04:44):
means is it personal, private, sacred journey.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And that book that you're working on, is that the
one called A Humans Guide to Visiting Aliens?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's right, yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, we'll have to get your back when the book
comes out.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I A. And then up now I'm excited about it.
You know, finishing the book is no mean feet.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Then what was that big moment in your career Thomas,
that you knew you made it?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, that moment that I made it? I uh, I've
never really looked at it that way, but the but
I have looked at the moment that I could take
off my apron for being a bus boy and uh
and start making a living. That happened sometime after Bookie
Nights and ninety seven ninety eight something like that. Uh
(05:33):
you know when when, because every every time I got
an acting job, I'd quit whatever job I happen to
be doing, whether that was a Mongolian barbecue chef, or
handing out balloons for a car wash place on Melrose
or whatever, you know, sweeping up clubs after after hours
at four and morning, I'd quit whatever job I had
(05:57):
and live off the paycheck until I had to go
get another job.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's do you know John Hamm, by any chance.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
M wonderful actor, wonderful actor. You know they actually offered
me that show mad Men.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He waited on tables in Saint Louis before he decided
to make it big, and look what happened with him.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's right, an actor out on loan is you know.
Jim Morrison used to say.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You used to sleep in your car. That's how determined
you were right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You're right about that. Yes I did, Yeah, yeah, I
was slept in my car. I slept on the park benches.
I did odd jobs, you know. The only real difference.
I went to a lot of acting schools. I was
determined to get the skills that I needed to do
the job. And the only difference I saw was that
(06:53):
the other guys who were just as talented as me
in class, the ones that had a back up, you know,
like you know, I do books and I'm also studying
to be an economist or whatever. They're the ones that
ended up being an economist, you know, or the restaurant
the manager. Uh So, I made a point to not
(07:16):
have a plan B, George, and that's kind of it's
kind of done well, and must plan B.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The road not taking Thomas, and you did it. My friend.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
M very grateful. I'm very grateful to to do something
that I love, you know. And that really is the
bottom line. Doesn't matter what it is if you've got
a passion for it, if you have an understanding that
you feel like you're giving some making a contribution, and
you're doing your part and you can sleep easy at night.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
And how deeply are you involved now in the UFO possibility?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I would say that I'm just about as deep as
you can get, you know, That's what I it is,
It is something that kind of takes over, uh and
becomes sort of the background of everything. You know, I
guess because it's uh, well, I have learned the UFO
(08:17):
community is nuts out of their mind. But that doesn't
mean they're wrong, you know. I found that it's it's
kind of the cranks and the weirdos. As Stephen Hawking said,
you know, if UFOs are real widely appear only to
cranks and weirdos, that's because the outsiders have less to lose,
(08:39):
and they're they're more willing to talk about it, the
more willing to stand on the front lines and you know,
raise the red flag. You know. But but the mainstream
is now fladding into the cracks and filling the pots,
you know, the old school ufology. I have a feeling
(09:00):
that's going to change, you know. I have a feeling
as this becomes gentrified, it will become uphology will be renamed,
just like they you know, found a new names for
UAP or extrasensory perception psionics. That's a new name. I
think euthology will also be renamed and gentrified to the comedy.
(09:24):
The academics and the scientists, and then the corporations, well.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The interest is amazing, Thomas indicative. With just the crowd
that showed up at Contact in the Desert this year,
I mean it was huge.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Huge, and completely. You know, we've opened the doors to
a new uh and that's exactly what we need. We
need scholars, we need academics, we need our best minds
working on this. And the mission now is to open
those doors wider as wide as we can will allow
(10:00):
to give permission to the you know, to the pencil
necks and then and the guys with the track pocket
protectors to come in and and then and see what
they can see what they can learn and discover and
find that out and share with us.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You look at a lot of the work of the
expert researcher Jacques Vallet. Tell us about what you say
alien control systems might be.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, yeah, I've become interested in uh in these in
what Vallet said is is an alien control system? Yeah.
I suppose you could say, well, let's talk a little
bit about Jaques Valley. He was a UFO researcher.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
He's just he was. He is a systems feerist, a
computer scientist, a philosopher, and back in the seventies Valets
suggested that UFO events are part of a system subtly
influencing human behavior, right, and our manipulating human consciousness in
(11:15):
our beliefs. Called it a control system, you know, being
a computer guy, he called them cybernetics. You know, this
alien control system was non obvious, it was adaptive, and
it used feedback groups like cybernetics. You know, that's from
(11:37):
the Greek for steersman governor cybernetics that was developed in
the mid twentieth century to explore how living organisms and
machines learn and gaped to their environments. Right, So it
includes feedback and the control mechanisms and information flow. And
(11:59):
his analogy was the thermostat automated system regulates uh, right,
the uh the temperature in the house, that it gets
too hot, AC kicks on. If it gets too warm,
the AC kicks on and it gets too too cooled
and the heater kicks on. And and he said that
(12:23):
look like that, similar to that, or or similar to
the gyroscope and the rocket the controls and steers the rocket.
That this UFOs were regulating our human bold systems and
human consciousness.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
This dramatic, Thomas, it really is. Vala was one of
the best and believe that they were coming from another dimension,
didn't he?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Oh yeah, you know, he he was not in he
was He took a lot of flag for the uh
uh questioning the the extraterrestrial hypothesis and said, man, this
is just too strange. She said, he'd be disappointed if
we found out that this non human intelligence was, you know,
(13:12):
flying across space and aluminum tableware. Yeah, that'll be upsetting. Uh,
you know, and he took a lot of flag Ford.
But you know, I am starting to come around if
it's a similar idea. You know that this is this
is a lot stranger than we uh or at least
it opens up dimensions of doors, the doors of perception,
(13:37):
doors of reality. That's that we as a society have
yet to fully accept.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm still puzzled by the nineteen forty seven Rush crash.
That these vehicles come millions and millions of miles and
then they crash.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Why. Yeah, that's that's a Burlison asked that in twenty
twenty three. He said, why do they Why? Why? He
asked that very question, you know, And I'm starting to think,
based on the interesting sort of developments that have happened,
they were just the last you know, through four years
(14:17):
that maybe aliens don't crash their drones, do their control
system they know, breakdown. And I would say that with
all the crashes, and if you go to Stringfield studied,
(14:40):
you know, I think he cataloged about one hundred and
nineteen UFO crash retrievals right, one of them Ryan Wood
with magic guys only they cataloged about one hundred and four.
You know, Michael Schratt who's sort of the UFO crash
retrieval expert today, he said that there's a lot of overlap,
(15:04):
but at least seventy five are unique crash retrievals, and
that's a lot of crashes. That's a lot of crashes.
But in all those, to my knowledge, I have not
heard of a single crane Lincus or a Reptilian or
(15:28):
the Nordics involved in one of those crashes. But what
we do get is is what David Grush called biologics.
You know, these little guys who we were in the
Roswell crash who Corso Corso said, we're Colonel Corso said
(15:53):
we're drones. He said they were identical, they were sexless,
and they they were relic just like drones. And in
twenty twenty three, uh, we had that that, which personally
I find really interesting. The guy came out on Reddit,
(16:15):
the microbiologists, who said that he studied the alien genetics
from what you could call legacy crashes or you know,
bodies that have been in the freezer for a few decades,
and they had the technology of the two thousands, after
they had created the Munian Genome project, they finally sequenced
(16:36):
human genome. And he said that when they were studying
the genes of these uh, these little guys, they were
created using human and animal genes from Earth. And that
tells me that they are biologics. They're drones, They are
(17:01):
bio robotic organisms created on Earth to as part of
this this sort of network it's been sort of set up.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
You think, do you think the beings themselves are robotic?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I think that those beings are biological androids. You know
that that's what they appear to be, and they appear
to be created right here on Earth. So those are
the maybe are the guys that crash, not the aliens themselves,
(17:42):
because you know, the only crash I can think of,
and this is I haven't been able to look into
this very deeply. Only very many people have. But the
nineteen thirty three crash in Italy, apparently at least the
rumor is maybe that that's somebody says that maybe it's
(18:04):
Kannate who studied the Tellian who study this stuff, said
that they may have been wordics, But I don't know
about that, and that would be the only crash out
of you know, seventy five that we've got many reports
that there may have been. Uh what Eric Davis said
recently were the four sort of name species that appeared
(18:30):
to be involved, you know, permanently sort of installed around
our planet, you know as the graves praying manas, and
then the human esque human es I call them human
s or you know they look like Calvin Crime models.
There they're human if you walk down the street, you never.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Can Thomas, how much of the knowledge do you think
of and know? And they're just not telling us.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, I mean to cut to the chase. I think
that they they I suspect and Vallet suspected the same
it was writing in the seventies. I'm not sure it
has changed that a team, but that they know much
less than we would and they would like us to believe.
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