March 10, 2025 • 17 mins
Guest Host Lisa Garr and astrophysicist Debra L Burris discuss extreme weather patterns of the earth and space.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast and my guest is
Deborah Buris, and we are talking about weather Magic, which
is the name of her book. Before the break, we
were talking about more extreme patterns in the weather, and
we were talking about the ocean's heating up, not cooling
like they should be doing, and holding all of that
co two in the atmosphere. Why tell me why it
(00:30):
is heating up in the first place. I mean, your
experience of that as an astrophysicist, I'm really curious.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well, I mean you can say, you can call it
whatever word you want to call it, but humans have
had an impact on this planet since the industrial age, right,
so we are producing these gases and it's just the fact.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And I'm just looking for the facts, right.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, Our atmosphere is compared and nitrogen and oxygen, and
it has some carbon dioxide in it naturally, and that's
a good thing. Right. We need the green we need
People used to call it say, oh, it's the green
half effect. Well we need the greenhouse effect. You want
some greenhouse effects, because if you don't have that, if
(01:18):
you don't have the heat ability to keep a little
bit of heat in the atmosphere, then you get these
verit you would get this crazy extreme difference in temperature
between night and day, like it would be you know,
one hundred and fifty degrees during the daytime and you
know minus thirty at night, and when who wants that?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Hat? Okay, So it keeps the temperatures, it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Moderates the temperature, and that's a good thing. What you
don't want is the runaway green half effect, which is
what the planet Venus has. Venus is an example of
what you don't want. It is the atmosphere on Venus
is full of not just carbon dioxide, but other more
(02:02):
volatile gases that retain heat. And so the temperature on
Venus is about the same all the time. It's about
nine hundred degrees fahrenheit all the time because that heat
gets trapped in there and it can't reradiate back out
into the atmosphere, so they're back out into space. So
(02:23):
think about, for example, in the winter, like we talk
about when we start to look at like is it
going to freeze tonight? Is there going to be a
frost tonight? If you're a gardener, is it going to
be a frost, Do I need to go outside and
cover up my tomatoes or whatever? If it's the cloudy night,
Generally that is not going to happen because the clouds,
(02:46):
because they are full of water vapor, which also holds
onto heat, kind of acts as an insulating blanket and
it doesn't allow all of the heat to reradiate back
out into space, and it keeps the temperature on average
a little bit warmer overnight, and so your tomatoes don't
get frost bite.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That's why the coastal towns are so temperate.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Right exactly exactly, clear night, you're going to probably get
a frost because that he's going to just go back
out and you know the daytime heating is going to
reradiate back out in space. Yeah, you're exactly right. Coastal
regions are a lot more temperate because of the water,
whereas inland areas are a little bit have a little
(03:28):
wider variation in those temperatures because there don't have the
sort of that insulation of the water being close by.
So to me, what's happening is if we get this
two way, it's kind of a three part problem in
my opinion, and I'm not a climatologist, so I'm just
going to say what and from a from a physics
(03:49):
point of view, what I see happening. You've got, you know,
you get this heat coming in. You have an extra
CO two in the atmosphere because we don't have Now,
the vegetation is going away because we're you know, we're
cutting down trees and we're clear cutting things for agriculture,
(04:10):
which we've got to have to feed more people. And
so if you get rid of plants and you pay
Paradise to put up parking lot, what you do is
you run out of the things that are going to
help get that CO two out of the atmosphere. Then
what that does is then you change the ability of
(04:33):
the surfaces to absorb and release heat. Because you know,
plants are good at absorbing heat and they kind of
hang on to it. Whereas you get metallic surfaces in
concrete and cities change the weather, they do they have
their own sort of heat sink around them. You know,
(04:53):
if you've ever been close to a brick building at night,
you can feel the heat coming off the bricks. Right
then you had the next pieces or the last piece
of the puzzle to me is when you start heating
up the oceans, you melt ice. Ice reflects light better
(05:14):
than liquid water. That's why when you go outside on
a snowy day and it's sunny, very bright outside, because
snow and ice reflect light back into space. So if
you lose that ability to reflect back some of the
solar energy, now you're absorbing even more of it into
the ocean. And so you you know, exacerbated the problem
(05:38):
even more. So those pieces to me or what me
is responsible or are responsible for what we're seeing in
this more extreme weather patterns. Now, there will be people
say that, well, this is a long term cycle that
the Earth is goes through, and yet there are these
very long term you know, ten thousand years, one hundred
(06:00):
thousand year. I think they're called millan COVID cycles. I
can't remember exactly because again I'm not a climate scientist.
But the if you look at data from like a
union of concerned scientist, you see that there's this overall
upward trend that cannot be explained away by these long term,
(06:20):
natural occurring cycles. So, you know, I like data. I
tend to believe what the data says, and so I'm like,
that's that's that's there, that there's a problem. And so
if you've got this extra heat, one of the things
that it's going to do is it's going to create
(06:41):
you know, unpredictable or sometimes maybe predictable, but you know,
how do you deal with changes in the weather, So
bigger hurricanes, longer hurricane season, a bigger tornade, know, you know,
(07:02):
the more dramatic bomb cyclones that we're seeing now. I
think maybe either are all the results of this additional
heat that we can't we can't just explain that away
in my.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Opinion, right, and this whole union of concerned scientists talk
about that. I would just pulled up an article about
heat waves and climate change and what science tells us
about extreme heat events which we're heading into again for
this summer, and they do keep getting longer and more intense,
and you just explain beautifully why. Now I'm curious about
(07:37):
how in terms of magic or.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Rain making, I mean, can we help this?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well? Okay, so I'm gonna I have a lady who
I adore. Her name is Dorothy Morrison, and she's an
author of many many mini witch books, and she is
sort of my hashtag itch goals, and she would do
these workshops on how to use magic in your day
(08:08):
to day life to get things done. And I remember
very clearly there was a woman who said, you know,
my husband started remodeling my kitchen and he won't finish it,
and what magic do I need to do to get
him to see that? From Texas? And she has a
very Southern accent like I do, and she said, oh, honey,
(08:29):
you don't need to do magic for that. You need
to hire that done and charge his credit card. And
I immediately fell in love with her in that instant.
But there are things that we could do magically, but
there are things we could do as you know, pagan
communities or which communities or whatever. I go to so
many events where there's no recycling, and I'm like, you're
(08:55):
an outdoor event. We're supposed to be in earth based religion.
Where's the recycling. Then I realized that it may seem
like recycling is not is just a drop in the bucket,
And it is, but it's better than no drops in
the bucket. We can we can vote with our dollars.
We can try to choose companies who promote greener practices.
(09:17):
We can try to be greener ourselves. I mean, you know,
we are I live in the south, there is very
little public transportation, but you know, my boyfriend lives in town.
We try to walk instead of drive, you know, the
two blocks where is. So there are small things that
we can do that are not magical, but they are
(09:40):
earth centered, which you know, we we have to quep.
One of the things that I get really irritated about
is people treat this planet like it's a truck stops
on the rate that are great beyond right. They see
this as just, oh, this is just a temporary place.
I don't really need to take care of it, and
(10:01):
you do, and it's.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, it gets trashed for that reason. And you can
always tell where humans have been because they leave trash, right.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And so those are not necessarily magical things you can do,
but they are mindful things you can do. Now in
terms of magical practices, I mean, you know, we can
try to just work for To me, when I do
magic for something like this, I don't try to say
I want to change the heating of the ocean. I
(10:30):
want to change the mindset and the energy of the
people that I can impact. And then it's like that
old was it the Dominoes commercial that you tell two friends,
and they tell two friends, and then they tell two friends.
If I can affect change in my immediate community to
be more mindful, right, if I can ask for that
(10:50):
in the universe, then maybe those people can spread those
little ripples on out. Are there magic spells and things
that you can do? Yeah, but I've tried to say
my magical practices for things that are within my immediate route.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, that makes sense. Well, right, let's talk a lot
a little bit about clouds. You so, say, for example,
you're in an airplane and there's so much more turbulence
than airplanes these days. What types of clouds should you
be looking out for if you're flying? Or okay, are
these extreme heat events?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's a very good that's a very good question. You know,
when you get the what clouds the clouds you need
to look for that you're going to know there's going
to be turbulents or ones that we say have vertical development.
So those are your cumula form clouds, your puppy clouds,
like the clouds already draws and you tell them draw
a cloud, right, those are called cumulus clouds, and they
(11:51):
aren't considered a cloud with vertical development, because for them
to be able to grow into like a cumulonimbus, which
is the thunderstorm it, you have to have instability, a
lost and you have to have rising air. And rising
air with instability equals turbulence. So if you see, like
(12:12):
if you fly close to a big thunderstorm, one of
the things you can look for is very often those
have those flat anble that sort of classic I don't
whine gesturing with my hand, i'f I, but I'm doing that.
They have that flat anvil top. But if they are
a very strong storm with a lot of upward convection
(12:35):
like the boiling of a pot is convection, like the
upward moving of the air, they will have what's called
an overshoot, which kind of looks like cauliflower tops on
these flat anvils. If they have that, that means there's
a lot of upward convection which can lead to more turbulence.
(12:56):
So you see that a lot in these really big
super cells that you get over sort of the great
planes and Oklahoma. You know, I lived in Oklahoma for
thirteen years, and I saw a lot of these really huge,
massive thunderstorms. Maybe to have these sort of bubbly cauliflower
overshooting tops, and those storms are the ones that are
(13:18):
the most likely to become planatic. Really, so yeah, because
what that means is there's a lot of vertical lift
and it creates wind shear, which wind shehre is where
you have two layers of air that are kind of
moving at different speeds going over the top of each other.
And what that does is that can create a role.
(13:39):
Imagine like, well, we don't have big fat phone books
anymore because they were the first example of this, But
if you take a really thick book and you push
on the top cover of it, it's going to kind
of go, it's going to kind of lean a little bit. Oh,
that's the shears. That's the shear. So you're pushing on
that top layer and it's moving more than the layers
(14:00):
beneath it, and so that creates that tilt. Well, imagine
doing that with like water or air. That's going to
cause that stuff to start to roll and you're going
to get this burt this horizontal sort of rolling effect.
Which then if you get a lot of uplift in
your storm, that's going to kick that roll up and
it's going to create rotation in the storm. So, uh,
(14:23):
that's kind of a long explanation.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
No, I love this. This is great.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So you could identify the clouds and if you're if
you're in an airplane, or if you're looking up in
the sky and you see the cauliflower type of clouds,
you can expect wind to come with that right right.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
In storms, Yeah, it's the top especially it's the tops
of these storms. The other thing you can look for
in storms like that are in in in thunderstorm clouds,
look for water called mammatis clouds. Mammatis clouds are named
because they look like mammary glands. They look like, you know,
(14:58):
utters on a cow breast. What are the little pouchy
forms that form out in front of this cloud. They
almost look like a bubble wrap in a way, you know,
because there's these little pouches that form out in front
of the storm. And what that means is there's a
lot of turbulence and instability aloft in that storm. Again,
that means a lot of uplift. Uplift can often lead
(15:21):
to rotation, which then can be a tornado, a pop storm,
or at least a storm that has the potential of
a form a tornado. So that's another thing you can
look for.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There's so much when it comes to our weather and
our sky and all the events that are happening. I'm
in California and the wind event that happened here was
close to one hundred mile an hour winds, which that
ignited the Palisades and the Eton area. It was just
(15:52):
impossible to prevent at the time because the winds were
carrying the embers so fast and so far. But I
had heard on the radio that morning. I was driving
and it was earlier in the morning, and the meteorologists
were on the air saying, this is going to be
a stronger wind event that you've ever seen before. You
(16:13):
can tell by the hot air and the cold air
meeting and the clouds. And so there was cold air
coming from the sierra the mountains, and then the hot
air was coming from the valley and you could see
the clouds rising up into the air with that puffy
cauliflower top that they were dark right, So it was
(16:36):
I guess there was a perfect storm happening out there.
But meteorologists could tell this was going to be an
eighty to ninety mile an hour wind. It was completely predictable.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Right, well, because what they can do now is we
It's something called the Cape index, which is getting WILLI
like data? You know, I'm a data walk when it
comes to meteorology. The Tape index is a measure of
the instability. So it's a measure of what they were
probably looking at, is that instability. Now, what happened with
(17:11):
y'all is that air. You know, you had very cold
air and you had very warm air. They were both
dry air mashes, and that's why they create because what
they did is not only were they carrying the embers,
they were drying out the vegetation because they had no
humidity in them.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast and my guest is
Deborah Buris, and we are talking about weather Magic, which
is the name of her book. Before the break, we
were talking about more extreme patterns in the weather, and
we were talking about the ocean's heating up, not cooling
like they should be doing, and holding all of that
co two in the atmosphere. Why tell me why it
(00:30):
is heating up in the first place. I mean, your
experience of that as an astrophysicist, I'm really curious.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well, I mean you can say, you can call it
whatever word you want to call it, but humans have
had an impact on this planet since the industrial age, right,
so we are producing these gases and it's just the fact.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And I'm just looking for the facts, right.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, Our atmosphere is compared and nitrogen and oxygen, and
it has some carbon dioxide in it naturally, and that's
a good thing. Right. We need the green we need
People used to call it say, oh, it's the green
half effect. Well we need the greenhouse effect. You want
some greenhouse effects, because if you don't have that, if
(01:18):
you don't have the heat ability to keep a little
bit of heat in the atmosphere, then you get these
verit you would get this crazy extreme difference in temperature
between night and day, like it would be you know,
one hundred and fifty degrees during the daytime and you
know minus thirty at night, and when who wants that?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Hat? Okay, So it keeps the temperatures, it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Moderates the temperature, and that's a good thing. What you
don't want is the runaway green half effect, which is
what the planet Venus has. Venus is an example of
what you don't want. It is the atmosphere on Venus
is full of not just carbon dioxide, but other more
(02:02):
volatile gases that retain heat. And so the temperature on
Venus is about the same all the time. It's about
nine hundred degrees fahrenheit all the time because that heat
gets trapped in there and it can't reradiate back out
into the atmosphere, so they're back out into space. So
(02:23):
think about, for example, in the winter, like we talk
about when we start to look at like is it
going to freeze tonight? Is there going to be a
frost tonight? If you're a gardener, is it going to
be a frost, Do I need to go outside and
cover up my tomatoes or whatever? If it's the cloudy night,
Generally that is not going to happen because the clouds,
(02:46):
because they are full of water vapor, which also holds
onto heat, kind of acts as an insulating blanket and
it doesn't allow all of the heat to reradiate back
out into space, and it keeps the temperature on average
a little bit warmer overnight, and so your tomatoes don't
get frost bite.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That's why the coastal towns are so temperate.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Right exactly exactly, clear night, you're going to probably get
a frost because that he's going to just go back
out and you know the daytime heating is going to
reradiate back out in space. Yeah, you're exactly right. Coastal
regions are a lot more temperate because of the water,
whereas inland areas are a little bit have a little
(03:28):
wider variation in those temperatures because there don't have the
sort of that insulation of the water being close by.
So to me, what's happening is if we get this
two way, it's kind of a three part problem in
my opinion, and I'm not a climatologist, so I'm just
going to say what and from a from a physics
(03:49):
point of view, what I see happening. You've got, you know,
you get this heat coming in. You have an extra
CO two in the atmosphere because we don't have Now,
the vegetation is going away because we're you know, we're
cutting down trees and we're clear cutting things for agriculture,
(04:10):
which we've got to have to feed more people. And
so if you get rid of plants and you pay
Paradise to put up parking lot, what you do is
you run out of the things that are going to
help get that CO two out of the atmosphere. Then
what that does is then you change the ability of
(04:33):
the surfaces to absorb and release heat. Because you know,
plants are good at absorbing heat and they kind of
hang on to it. Whereas you get metallic surfaces in
concrete and cities change the weather, they do they have
their own sort of heat sink around them. You know,
(04:53):
if you've ever been close to a brick building at night,
you can feel the heat coming off the bricks. Right
then you had the next pieces or the last piece
of the puzzle to me is when you start heating
up the oceans, you melt ice. Ice reflects light better
(05:14):
than liquid water. That's why when you go outside on
a snowy day and it's sunny, very bright outside, because
snow and ice reflect light back into space. So if
you lose that ability to reflect back some of the
solar energy, now you're absorbing even more of it into
the ocean. And so you you know, exacerbated the problem
(05:38):
even more. So those pieces to me or what me
is responsible or are responsible for what we're seeing in
this more extreme weather patterns. Now, there will be people
say that, well, this is a long term cycle that
the Earth is goes through, and yet there are these
very long term you know, ten thousand years, one hundred
(06:00):
thousand year. I think they're called millan COVID cycles. I
can't remember exactly because again I'm not a climate scientist.
But the if you look at data from like a
union of concerned scientist, you see that there's this overall
upward trend that cannot be explained away by these long term,
(06:20):
natural occurring cycles. So, you know, I like data. I
tend to believe what the data says, and so I'm like,
that's that's that's there, that there's a problem. And so
if you've got this extra heat, one of the things
that it's going to do is it's going to create
(06:41):
you know, unpredictable or sometimes maybe predictable, but you know,
how do you deal with changes in the weather, So
bigger hurricanes, longer hurricane season, a bigger tornade, know, you know,
(07:02):
the more dramatic bomb cyclones that we're seeing now. I
think maybe either are all the results of this additional
heat that we can't we can't just explain that away
in my.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Opinion, right, and this whole union of concerned scientists talk
about that. I would just pulled up an article about
heat waves and climate change and what science tells us
about extreme heat events which we're heading into again for
this summer, and they do keep getting longer and more intense,
and you just explain beautifully why. Now I'm curious about
(07:37):
how in terms of magic or.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Rain making, I mean, can we help this?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well? Okay, so I'm gonna I have a lady who
I adore. Her name is Dorothy Morrison, and she's an
author of many many mini witch books, and she is
sort of my hashtag itch goals, and she would do
these workshops on how to use magic in your day
(08:08):
to day life to get things done. And I remember
very clearly there was a woman who said, you know,
my husband started remodeling my kitchen and he won't finish it,
and what magic do I need to do to get
him to see that? From Texas? And she has a
very Southern accent like I do, and she said, oh, honey,
(08:29):
you don't need to do magic for that. You need
to hire that done and charge his credit card. And
I immediately fell in love with her in that instant.
But there are things that we could do magically, but
there are things we could do as you know, pagan
communities or which communities or whatever. I go to so
many events where there's no recycling, and I'm like, you're
(08:55):
an outdoor event. We're supposed to be in earth based religion.
Where's the recycling. Then I realized that it may seem
like recycling is not is just a drop in the bucket,
And it is, but it's better than no drops in
the bucket. We can we can vote with our dollars.
We can try to choose companies who promote greener practices.
(09:17):
We can try to be greener ourselves. I mean, you know,
we are I live in the south, there is very
little public transportation, but you know, my boyfriend lives in town.
We try to walk instead of drive, you know, the
two blocks where is. So there are small things that
we can do that are not magical, but they are
(09:40):
earth centered, which you know, we we have to quep.
One of the things that I get really irritated about
is people treat this planet like it's a truck stops
on the rate that are great beyond right. They see
this as just, oh, this is just a temporary place.
I don't really need to take care of it, and
(10:01):
you do, and it's.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, it gets trashed for that reason. And you can
always tell where humans have been because they leave trash, right.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And so those are not necessarily magical things you can do,
but they are mindful things you can do. Now in
terms of magical practices, I mean, you know, we can
try to just work for To me, when I do
magic for something like this, I don't try to say
I want to change the heating of the ocean. I
(10:30):
want to change the mindset and the energy of the
people that I can impact. And then it's like that
old was it the Dominoes commercial that you tell two friends,
and they tell two friends, and then they tell two friends.
If I can affect change in my immediate community to
be more mindful, right, if I can ask for that
(10:50):
in the universe, then maybe those people can spread those
little ripples on out. Are there magic spells and things
that you can do? Yeah, but I've tried to say
my magical practices for things that are within my immediate route.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, that makes sense. Well, right, let's talk a lot
a little bit about clouds. You so, say, for example,
you're in an airplane and there's so much more turbulence
than airplanes these days. What types of clouds should you
be looking out for if you're flying? Or okay, are
these extreme heat events?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's a very good that's a very good question. You know,
when you get the what clouds the clouds you need
to look for that you're going to know there's going
to be turbulents or ones that we say have vertical development.
So those are your cumula form clouds, your puppy clouds,
like the clouds already draws and you tell them draw
a cloud, right, those are called cumulus clouds, and they
(11:51):
aren't considered a cloud with vertical development, because for them
to be able to grow into like a cumulonimbus, which
is the thunderstorm it, you have to have instability, a
lost and you have to have rising air. And rising
air with instability equals turbulence. So if you see, like
(12:12):
if you fly close to a big thunderstorm, one of
the things you can look for is very often those
have those flat anble that sort of classic I don't
whine gesturing with my hand, i'f I, but I'm doing that.
They have that flat anvil top. But if they are
a very strong storm with a lot of upward convection
(12:35):
like the boiling of a pot is convection, like the
upward moving of the air, they will have what's called
an overshoot, which kind of looks like cauliflower tops on
these flat anvils. If they have that, that means there's
a lot of upward convection which can lead to more turbulence.
(12:56):
So you see that a lot in these really big
super cells that you get over sort of the great
planes and Oklahoma. You know, I lived in Oklahoma for
thirteen years, and I saw a lot of these really huge,
massive thunderstorms. Maybe to have these sort of bubbly cauliflower
overshooting tops, and those storms are the ones that are
(13:18):
the most likely to become planatic. Really, so yeah, because
what that means is there's a lot of vertical lift
and it creates wind shear, which wind shehre is where
you have two layers of air that are kind of
moving at different speeds going over the top of each other.
And what that does is that can create a role.
(13:39):
Imagine like, well, we don't have big fat phone books
anymore because they were the first example of this, But
if you take a really thick book and you push
on the top cover of it, it's going to kind
of go, it's going to kind of lean a little bit. Oh,
that's the shears. That's the shear. So you're pushing on
that top layer and it's moving more than the layers
(14:00):
beneath it, and so that creates that tilt. Well, imagine
doing that with like water or air. That's going to
cause that stuff to start to roll and you're going
to get this burt this horizontal sort of rolling effect.
Which then if you get a lot of uplift in
your storm, that's going to kick that roll up and
it's going to create rotation in the storm. So, uh,
(14:23):
that's kind of a long explanation.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
No, I love this. This is great.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So you could identify the clouds and if you're if
you're in an airplane, or if you're looking up in
the sky and you see the cauliflower type of clouds,
you can expect wind to come with that right right.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
In storms, Yeah, it's the top especially it's the tops
of these storms. The other thing you can look for
in storms like that are in in in thunderstorm clouds,
look for water called mammatis clouds. Mammatis clouds are named
because they look like mammary glands. They look like, you know,
(14:58):
utters on a cow breast. What are the little pouchy
forms that form out in front of this cloud. They
almost look like a bubble wrap in a way, you know,
because there's these little pouches that form out in front
of the storm. And what that means is there's a
lot of turbulence and instability aloft in that storm. Again,
that means a lot of uplift. Uplift can often lead
(15:21):
to rotation, which then can be a tornado, a pop storm,
or at least a storm that has the potential of
a form a tornado. So that's another thing you can
look for.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There's so much when it comes to our weather and
our sky and all the events that are happening. I'm
in California and the wind event that happened here was
close to one hundred mile an hour winds, which that
ignited the Palisades and the Eton area. It was just
(15:52):
impossible to prevent at the time because the winds were
carrying the embers so fast and so far. But I
had heard on the radio that morning. I was driving
and it was earlier in the morning, and the meteorologists
were on the air saying, this is going to be
a stronger wind event that you've ever seen before. You
(16:13):
can tell by the hot air and the cold air
meeting and the clouds. And so there was cold air
coming from the sierra the mountains, and then the hot
air was coming from the valley and you could see
the clouds rising up into the air with that puffy
cauliflower top that they were dark right, So it was
(16:36):
I guess there was a perfect storm happening out there.
But meteorologists could tell this was going to be an
eighty to ninety mile an hour wind. It was completely predictable.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Right, well, because what they can do now is we
It's something called the Cape index, which is getting WILLI
like data? You know, I'm a data walk when it
comes to meteorology. The Tape index is a measure of
the instability. So it's a measure of what they were
probably looking at, is that instability. Now, what happened with
(17:11):
y'all is that air. You know, you had very cold
air and you had very warm air. They were both
dry air mashes, and that's why they create because what
they did is not only were they carrying the embers,
they were drying out the vegetation because they had no
humidity in them.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
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