November 1, 2025 • 15 mins
George Noory and witch Patti Negri discuss the growing interest in witchcraft in modern society, the ancient Celtic traditions that became modern day Halloween, and her experiences with haunted dolls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Ghost to Ghost George Nori with
you with the Good Witch, Patty Negrey Back with Us.
Patty is a psychic medium and author. A couple of
her books include Dollcraft for Which's Guide to Poppet Magic
and Haunted Dolls Your recurring role on the Travel Channel
and Discovery hit series Ghost Adventures. Patty Blend's Old World
Witchcraft with Modern Psychology to teach practical magic for loves, success,
(00:30):
protection and empowerment. The Good Witch. That's a great name
to have, Patty.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Thank you, George. I was a big fan of Glinda.
I grew up on withzard of Oz. So I have
the big pink dress and everything. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, thank god a house didn't land on you, right,
I know, Thank goodness. Watch your shoes curl up. That's
I didn't like that scene. It scared me when I
was a kid.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I know that that movie that affected all of us.
I think the whole world has been effect good by
Wizard of Oz. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Absolutely, So how did Witchcraft become you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I think I was born into me, not my mother
or anything like that. I was actually raised without any
kind of spirituality or religion because my grandfather was this
very famous psychoanalyst philosopher from Turkey, very atheist and humanistic.
But I would be in the backyard picking rosemary and
(01:25):
mint and stuffing it in my mom's wallet, not knowing
it would give her more money. You know, she thought
I was putting dirt in her wallet, but I'm no,
this is money talking to trees, and it's just been
part of who I am. This this respect and working
with nature and that you know that this is the
one religion that fits with everything that I just know
(01:46):
naturally belief systems. So I studied it starting at about
age thirteen, I.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Think, Patty, there was an agent Celtic tradition of a
festival called sem Haine. How did that evolve into modern
day Halloween.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, it's actually it's spelled like sampagne, but we call
it sowin, but you can call it potato, potato, tomato, tomato.
Actually it it is This is the witches New Year.
This is the witch Is New Year. The veil is
thinnest of all the year, and it is actually a
time that we celebrate our ancestors, not like the veil
(02:22):
is thin, So Halloween came out of that because they
would to like frighten the spirits. They would put out
They didn't have pumpkins in Europe, but they had turnips.
They'd put out turnips and light them up, and they
would put on masks and scary things to confuse the spirits.
But in actually actuality, the people inside were like putting
up pictures of their ancestors and lighting candles and telling
(02:43):
stories about their loved ones on the other side, because
it's the best night to communicate with them.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It is a great night. Tell me about the veil.
What does the veil mean?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The veil is that little curtain that you can't see
that separates our world from there where our three dimensional
corporal you know, already ridden well nothing solid. We know
that from seventh grade science, moving atoms everywhere, but from
the other world, and the other world is where the
everything else is. Our deceased ancestors are spirit guides, angelic realm,
(03:13):
demonic realm, the elemental realm, tree spirits, fairies and all that,
all the fun stuff on the other side.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Last night, Patty I had Karen Dolman on talking about
Wigi boards and she loves them. She thinks they're just
great instruments. And I've got you on the good witch.
Are we being tricked by people?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No love? I have used wigi boards safely since I
was seven or eight. My first dance, I was seven
or eight years old. It's just natural in me, and
I love Karen and I believe with her it is
a divination tool. All these people, I mean Hollywood and
we're all in Hollywood, has given wigi boards a bad
name because they make them look really scary. They're a
(03:56):
divination method, just like everybody who safely uses a little
pendulum or your dowsing rods or tarot cards or any
other divination method. It's just a doorway for divination. It
has taken on a bad connotation because we've given it
to it, and then all of a sudden, Zozo has
taken over and all these things. I think they are
(04:17):
as safe as any divination, but you just don't go.
I think they should have a completely different set of directions.
Maybe not sold in toy stores, maybe in adult stores,
but not like this is not a toy, this is
a divination method. You don't want to wake it up
and go anybody out there anybody. Really, do you want
to let anybody in your front door, the serial killer
(04:38):
next door, the mass murderer down the street. No, be specific.
You want to talk to spirits with real communication, good
or light spirits or spirits you know that have something positive,
and that's what you're going to get the all the
time I've got into trouble, which I've gotten into trouble,
I've had you know, people burst into flames. I've had
my ribs broken. Oh my god, but he got disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I was going to say, what type of people come
to you for assistance?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Every kind of people, every kind of age range, every
kind of what their social status is. People come to
people like Melissa and I when they need some guidance
and they need some help, and you know, maybe it's
something they can't talk about their roommates or spouses too,
and they want somebody with a different perspective on things.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And now it seems to me that witchcraft, the occult
magic are becoming even more popular than they ever wore.
Is that a pretty accurate perception?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Witchcraft is the largest growing religion in America. It is
I think, well, number one, times are scary. We know
that times are scary right now. The times have always
been scary, but times are scary with twenty four to
seven bombardment by Instagram television in every restaurant you go to.
So traditionally when times are scary, would go back to
(06:00):
their their their faith they were born with, go back
to church, go back to temple, go back to the mosque.
But that's not holding up for everybody. Somebody maybe they're
gay and their church doesn't believe in them. So that's
why the rise in things like witchcraft or all the
New Age and crystal spirituality over religion, and witchcraft is
(06:20):
the one that again has respect for our planet, which
we need so badly, respect for nature and kind of
going backwards to just getting in touch. We've gotten so
far away from ourselves, from our planet, from our connection,
and witchcraft is something that gives it to it and
does not take away our power. Some people, just some
of us, don't want to just have somebody forgive us
(06:44):
because they said so, it's just like we want to
be responsible for what we do, and witchcraft is that
belief system.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Your new book is called doll Craft, Witch's Guide to
popp It Magic and Haunted Dolls. Tell me about these
haunted dolls.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Haunted dolls. I'm a doll collector since birth. I was
probably in my mother's mooment. I had a large collection
of dolls, hundreds of barbies, hundreds of babies and everything,
and haunted dolls and magical dolls. Both poppets, like the
magic part have been in every culture forever and ever
and ever, the Japanese culture, the culture everybody has magical dolls,
(07:21):
spooky dolls, helping dolls along the way, and me being me,
this witchy psychic since a kid and a doll collector,
and then you know, starting in two thousand and eight
getting into the paranormal world. Dolls are the one thing
that brought it all together, my witchy, magical spellcasting world
(07:41):
of poppets. Here's your poppet for love, for health, for joy,
and here's how to take care of your haunted doll.
I think one of my early ghost adventures, it wasn't
even ghost adventures, it was a spinoff. It was doing
a seance with Peggy, the doll super haunted who's given
like two people heart attacks just looking at her, and
(08:02):
eighty people sick. And they figured they saw me doing
a seance on television with Peggy that I could handle
this doll Bell. I was sent this doll Bell, and
the rest is history. She became everybody's known of Bell.
And so I figured, if everybody wants dolls, now, thank
you again, Hollywood, Well all the Annabelle conjuring movies, Robert
(08:26):
the Dall, More, adults, George have doll collections, male, female,
it doesn't matter then and my parents' generation, I couldn't
see my dad having a doll collection. I hardly know
a male or female anymore who doesn't have or want,
or at least an interest in haunted dolls. And looking
at things like Annabelle, it's like there really is kind
(08:47):
of proper acquisition careen feeding to them. They are a
spirit you are bringing into your home. They it can
make you sick, It can be dangerous. So I figured
somebody had to write a book on this, and might
as well be me.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What makes the dolls haunted? Why do spirits attach themselves
to these inanimate objects?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, think about it. If you are a dissembodied spirit,
they don't have to take a body. But say you're
a disembodied spirit and you want a vessel to hang
out it, you could pick a toaster, and I guess
that's been done. You could you could pick a vase,
You could pick you know, a cell phone, but why
not pick something with eyes, nose, and mouth and ears
that you can really communicate with? And again you could
(09:28):
wink at people along the way. So if I'm ever
a disinbodied spirit, I'm going to pick a cute little
doll to check into, not a toaster.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You're probably too young to remember this, petty, but might
you remember a cartoon called Tom Terrific?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, not that young, but I don't remember Tom Terrific.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No, Tom Terrific was an object. He was a little
looking boy. He looked like a little robot machine who
had a funny funnel for a hat on top of
his head. But he had the ability to shape shift
and the whatever object was out there, And he kind
of reminds me of one of these dolls, except he
(10:08):
was a fun, good looking little character and nice. He
didn't have any evil to it does Why does Hollywood
make all these dolls evil? Because they sell tickets?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Of course, it's the money you doesn't want the fun, fun,
friendly haunted doll that sits there and keeps you company
and keeps your dogging cat entertained. Why do we watch
bad news every day on TV? Not the good news
every day on TV? Humans are weird, George, you know that.
We look at your show. We are this oddity thing
and we like to get scared. I think we like
(10:42):
to get confused. We like the unknown. So most people
are good. If you go to a baseball game, go
to a mall, go to a concert, most humans are good.
There might be a serial cool killer or two in there,
but most are good. Most ghost ghosts are good. Most
haunted dolls are good. But the ones that are gonna
get the press and the pr are they Annabelles and
(11:06):
you know the Roberts.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Do you think most people would rather go see a
haunted movie or Casper the Friendly Ghost?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, I actually just watched Casper the Friendly Ghost on
a movie didn't even know what existed, some movie from
decades ago. Well, I like the spooky ones too. We
all do. We want to feel it. We want to
get scared, we want to know what's gonna happen. We
want the jump scare. So I understand it. It's not
a bad thing. But that's why. If somebody wants a
(11:36):
haunted doll I'm still going to encourage them to have
a positive one, because positive haunted doll is going to
be just as spooky as a negative one. You're gonna
hear the footprints, they're going to move things around your house.
They're gonna wink at you on occasion, but they're not
going to drain your energy, and they're not gonna make
you sick and negatively or haunted doll. I use I
don't use like good and bad so much as high
(11:57):
vibration and low vibration. A high vibration one, it's not
going to it's going to be just as fun and
spooky and a new family member. But a negative one
really will drain your energy, can literally make you sick. Arguing,
fighting affect children, affect dogs. They're always going to go
for the weakest person first, or the weakest thing within
(12:17):
the house. So that's why I wrote the.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Book What makes a Haunted Doll unhaunted?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Well, you can actually banish the spirit if you want to.
I don't ever force a spirit. I don't in my magic.
I don't. I'm not going to force the spirit to
stay into it, or I'm not going to force the
spirit to come into it. I'm going to invite a spirit,
and there's really not usually much of a problem calling
in a spirit that works with you, yourself and your family.
(12:47):
But make it unhaunted. If you maybe you have something
that you really don't want, you can banish it from
it from a doll. And that's again there's rituals you
can do. Work within your belief system, work within whatever
works with you to actually do it, and then you can.
I actually, even in my book, I have a funeral.
(13:08):
I'm not that I've done a lot of funerals for dolls.
But say, if that doll wants to leave.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
How do you know if a doll is haunted?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Okay, first off, trust your intuition. Number one. If it
feels work like is say go to a thrift store,
go to the licks to find a doll, and you're
going to find the most whatever one there. But first
look at you. Your your gut is going to tell you.
Look if you have mood changes like wow, I got
drained all of a sudden, I got angry all of
(13:41):
a sudden. People are fighting in my household. Of course,
look for things like things moving around the house, check
children and animals. They are going to be the very
best thing to know. If if your animals, your dogs,
your cats are avoiding it, there's something that's not good
about it, they might they might go to it, and
(14:02):
that's means there is something good about it. But check
because children and animals don't have the filters that we've
grown up around. But to get it unhaunted, you could
do it by choice or the spirit wants to leave.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Have you ever been hurt by a haunted doll yourself?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I have not been hurt by a haunted doll. No.
I had one that got negative though, actually, and I
don't want that in my house. I just my house
has to be my sanctuary if your house has to
be that especially I do magic in my house. I
see people in my house. All of a sudden, I
noticed I was not hanging out in my office. I
love my little office dolls everywhere, and I would take
(14:44):
take my laptop upstairs with me, take my phone. I'ment,
what is it? And I'm looking around and I looked
at this little funny doll. I go, oh, it's you.
Something had came into it. I'd had it for two
years with no spirit. It wasn't haunted. It was just
a cute little doll, and I went, oh, oh, it's you.
I didn't well, me being me, I just called Zach Begans.
(15:05):
I go, I've got a really, I've got a very
haunted doll here. I won't have it in my house.
Do you want it? And he goes, well, what does
it look like? What is it? And I'm like We're
texting back and forth. He's like, oh, that's a nail
fetish hate doll. Yeah, I want it. I'm going to
Vegas the next day. In Vegas, get it started acting
up that night. But it's in a perfect place, somebody
(15:26):
where somebody doesn't live, somebody doesn't sleep. We're vulnerable when
we sleep. I wouldn't even keep my positive haunted dolls
in my bedroom as a rule, unless there's lots of protection.
Put them not where you're sleeping, or not where the
kids are sleeping. But yeah, so now that haunt, the
dark haunted doll is in Zach's museum and in a
perfect place for it.
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Ghost to Ghost George Nori with
you with the Good Witch, Patty Negrey Back with Us.
Patty is a psychic medium and author. A couple of
her books include Dollcraft for Which's Guide to Poppet Magic
and Haunted Dolls Your recurring role on the Travel Channel
and Discovery hit series Ghost Adventures. Patty Blend's Old World
Witchcraft with Modern Psychology to teach practical magic for loves, success,
(00:30):
protection and empowerment. The Good Witch. That's a great name
to have, Patty.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Thank you, George. I was a big fan of Glinda.
I grew up on withzard of Oz. So I have
the big pink dress and everything. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, thank god a house didn't land on you, right,
I know, Thank goodness. Watch your shoes curl up. That's
I didn't like that scene. It scared me when I
was a kid.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I know that that movie that affected all of us.
I think the whole world has been effect good by
Wizard of Oz. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Absolutely, So how did Witchcraft become you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I think I was born into me, not my mother
or anything like that. I was actually raised without any
kind of spirituality or religion because my grandfather was this
very famous psychoanalyst philosopher from Turkey, very atheist and humanistic.
But I would be in the backyard picking rosemary and
(01:25):
mint and stuffing it in my mom's wallet, not knowing
it would give her more money. You know, she thought
I was putting dirt in her wallet, but I'm no,
this is money talking to trees, and it's just been
part of who I am. This this respect and working
with nature and that you know that this is the
one religion that fits with everything that I just know
(01:46):
naturally belief systems. So I studied it starting at about
age thirteen, I.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Think, Patty, there was an agent Celtic tradition of a
festival called sem Haine. How did that evolve into modern
day Halloween.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, it's actually it's spelled like sampagne, but we call
it sowin, but you can call it potato, potato, tomato, tomato.
Actually it it is This is the witches New Year.
This is the witch Is New Year. The veil is
thinnest of all the year, and it is actually a
time that we celebrate our ancestors, not like the veil
(02:22):
is thin, So Halloween came out of that because they
would to like frighten the spirits. They would put out
They didn't have pumpkins in Europe, but they had turnips.
They'd put out turnips and light them up, and they
would put on masks and scary things to confuse the spirits.
But in actually actuality, the people inside were like putting
up pictures of their ancestors and lighting candles and telling
(02:43):
stories about their loved ones on the other side, because
it's the best night to communicate with them.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It is a great night. Tell me about the veil.
What does the veil mean?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The veil is that little curtain that you can't see
that separates our world from there where our three dimensional
corporal you know, already ridden well nothing solid. We know
that from seventh grade science, moving atoms everywhere, but from
the other world, and the other world is where the
everything else is. Our deceased ancestors are spirit guides, angelic realm,
(03:13):
demonic realm, the elemental realm, tree spirits, fairies and all that,
all the fun stuff on the other side.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Last night, Patty I had Karen Dolman on talking about
Wigi boards and she loves them. She thinks they're just
great instruments. And I've got you on the good witch.
Are we being tricked by people?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No love? I have used wigi boards safely since I
was seven or eight. My first dance, I was seven
or eight years old. It's just natural in me, and
I love Karen and I believe with her it is
a divination tool. All these people, I mean Hollywood and
we're all in Hollywood, has given wigi boards a bad
name because they make them look really scary. They're a
(03:56):
divination method, just like everybody who safely uses a little
pendulum or your dowsing rods or tarot cards or any
other divination method. It's just a doorway for divination. It
has taken on a bad connotation because we've given it
to it, and then all of a sudden, Zozo has
taken over and all these things. I think they are
(04:17):
as safe as any divination, but you just don't go.
I think they should have a completely different set of directions.
Maybe not sold in toy stores, maybe in adult stores,
but not like this is not a toy, this is
a divination method. You don't want to wake it up
and go anybody out there anybody. Really, do you want
to let anybody in your front door, the serial killer
(04:38):
next door, the mass murderer down the street. No, be specific.
You want to talk to spirits with real communication, good
or light spirits or spirits you know that have something positive,
and that's what you're going to get the all the
time I've got into trouble, which I've gotten into trouble,
I've had you know, people burst into flames. I've had
my ribs broken. Oh my god, but he got disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I was going to say, what type of people come
to you for assistance?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Every kind of people, every kind of age range, every
kind of what their social status is. People come to
people like Melissa and I when they need some guidance
and they need some help, and you know, maybe it's
something they can't talk about their roommates or spouses too,
and they want somebody with a different perspective on things.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And now it seems to me that witchcraft, the occult
magic are becoming even more popular than they ever wore.
Is that a pretty accurate perception?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Witchcraft is the largest growing religion in America. It is
I think, well, number one, times are scary. We know
that times are scary right now. The times have always
been scary, but times are scary with twenty four to
seven bombardment by Instagram television in every restaurant you go to.
So traditionally when times are scary, would go back to
(06:00):
their their their faith they were born with, go back
to church, go back to temple, go back to the mosque.
But that's not holding up for everybody. Somebody maybe they're
gay and their church doesn't believe in them. So that's
why the rise in things like witchcraft or all the
New Age and crystal spirituality over religion, and witchcraft is
(06:20):
the one that again has respect for our planet, which
we need so badly, respect for nature and kind of
going backwards to just getting in touch. We've gotten so
far away from ourselves, from our planet, from our connection,
and witchcraft is something that gives it to it and
does not take away our power. Some people, just some
of us, don't want to just have somebody forgive us
(06:44):
because they said so, it's just like we want to
be responsible for what we do, and witchcraft is that
belief system.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Your new book is called doll Craft, Witch's Guide to
popp It Magic and Haunted Dolls. Tell me about these
haunted dolls.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Haunted dolls. I'm a doll collector since birth. I was
probably in my mother's mooment. I had a large collection
of dolls, hundreds of barbies, hundreds of babies and everything,
and haunted dolls and magical dolls. Both poppets, like the
magic part have been in every culture forever and ever
and ever, the Japanese culture, the culture everybody has magical dolls,
(07:21):
spooky dolls, helping dolls along the way, and me being me,
this witchy psychic since a kid and a doll collector,
and then you know, starting in two thousand and eight
getting into the paranormal world. Dolls are the one thing
that brought it all together, my witchy, magical spellcasting world
(07:41):
of poppets. Here's your poppet for love, for health, for joy,
and here's how to take care of your haunted doll.
I think one of my early ghost adventures, it wasn't
even ghost adventures, it was a spinoff. It was doing
a seance with Peggy, the doll super haunted who's given
like two people heart attacks just looking at her, and
(08:02):
eighty people sick. And they figured they saw me doing
a seance on television with Peggy that I could handle
this doll Bell. I was sent this doll Bell, and
the rest is history. She became everybody's known of Bell.
And so I figured, if everybody wants dolls, now, thank
you again, Hollywood, Well all the Annabelle conjuring movies, Robert
(08:26):
the Dall, More, adults, George have doll collections, male, female,
it doesn't matter then and my parents' generation, I couldn't
see my dad having a doll collection. I hardly know
a male or female anymore who doesn't have or want,
or at least an interest in haunted dolls. And looking
at things like Annabelle, it's like there really is kind
(08:47):
of proper acquisition careen feeding to them. They are a
spirit you are bringing into your home. They it can
make you sick, It can be dangerous. So I figured
somebody had to write a book on this, and might
as well be me.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What makes the dolls haunted? Why do spirits attach themselves
to these inanimate objects?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, think about it. If you are a dissembodied spirit,
they don't have to take a body. But say you're
a disembodied spirit and you want a vessel to hang
out it, you could pick a toaster, and I guess
that's been done. You could you could pick a vase,
You could pick you know, a cell phone, but why
not pick something with eyes, nose, and mouth and ears
that you can really communicate with? And again you could
(09:28):
wink at people along the way. So if I'm ever
a disinbodied spirit, I'm going to pick a cute little
doll to check into, not a toaster.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You're probably too young to remember this, petty, but might
you remember a cartoon called Tom Terrific?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, not that young, but I don't remember Tom Terrific.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No, Tom Terrific was an object. He was a little
looking boy. He looked like a little robot machine who
had a funny funnel for a hat on top of
his head. But he had the ability to shape shift
and the whatever object was out there, And he kind
of reminds me of one of these dolls, except he
(10:08):
was a fun, good looking little character and nice. He
didn't have any evil to it does Why does Hollywood
make all these dolls evil? Because they sell tickets?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Of course, it's the money you doesn't want the fun, fun,
friendly haunted doll that sits there and keeps you company
and keeps your dogging cat entertained. Why do we watch
bad news every day on TV? Not the good news
every day on TV? Humans are weird, George, you know that.
We look at your show. We are this oddity thing
and we like to get scared. I think we like
(10:42):
to get confused. We like the unknown. So most people
are good. If you go to a baseball game, go
to a mall, go to a concert, most humans are good.
There might be a serial cool killer or two in there,
but most are good. Most ghost ghosts are good. Most
haunted dolls are good. But the ones that are gonna
get the press and the pr are they Annabelles and
(11:06):
you know the Roberts.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Do you think most people would rather go see a
haunted movie or Casper the Friendly Ghost?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, I actually just watched Casper the Friendly Ghost on
a movie didn't even know what existed, some movie from
decades ago. Well, I like the spooky ones too. We
all do. We want to feel it. We want to
get scared, we want to know what's gonna happen. We
want the jump scare. So I understand it. It's not
a bad thing. But that's why. If somebody wants a
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haunted doll I'm still going to encourage them to have
a positive one, because positive haunted doll is going to
be just as spooky as a negative one. You're gonna
hear the footprints, they're going to move things around your house.
They're gonna wink at you on occasion, but they're not
going to drain your energy, and they're not gonna make
you sick and negatively or haunted doll. I use I
don't use like good and bad so much as high
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vibration and low vibration. A high vibration one, it's not
going to it's going to be just as fun and
spooky and a new family member. But a negative one
really will drain your energy, can literally make you sick. Arguing,
fighting affect children, affect dogs. They're always going to go
for the weakest person first, or the weakest thing within
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the house. So that's why I wrote the.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Book What makes a Haunted Doll unhaunted?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Well, you can actually banish the spirit if you want to.
I don't ever force a spirit. I don't in my magic.
I don't. I'm not going to force the spirit to
stay into it, or I'm not going to force the
spirit to come into it. I'm going to invite a spirit,
and there's really not usually much of a problem calling
in a spirit that works with you, yourself and your family.
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But make it unhaunted. If you maybe you have something
that you really don't want, you can banish it from
it from a doll. And that's again there's rituals you
can do. Work within your belief system, work within whatever
works with you to actually do it, and then you can.
I actually, even in my book, I have a funeral.
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I'm not that I've done a lot of funerals for dolls.
But say, if that doll wants to leave.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
How do you know if a doll is haunted?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Okay, first off, trust your intuition. Number one. If it
feels work like is say go to a thrift store,
go to the licks to find a doll, and you're
going to find the most whatever one there. But first
look at you. Your your gut is going to tell you.
Look if you have mood changes like wow, I got
drained all of a sudden, I got angry all of
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a sudden. People are fighting in my household. Of course,
look for things like things moving around the house, check
children and animals. They are going to be the very
best thing to know. If if your animals, your dogs,
your cats are avoiding it, there's something that's not good
about it, they might they might go to it, and
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that's means there is something good about it. But check
because children and animals don't have the filters that we've
grown up around. But to get it unhaunted, you could
do it by choice or the spirit wants to leave.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Have you ever been hurt by a haunted doll yourself?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I have not been hurt by a haunted doll. No.
I had one that got negative though, actually, and I
don't want that in my house. I just my house
has to be my sanctuary if your house has to
be that especially I do magic in my house. I
see people in my house. All of a sudden, I
noticed I was not hanging out in my office. I
love my little office dolls everywhere, and I would take
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take my laptop upstairs with me, take my phone. I'ment,
what is it? And I'm looking around and I looked
at this little funny doll. I go, oh, it's you.
Something had came into it. I'd had it for two
years with no spirit. It wasn't haunted. It was just
a cute little doll, and I went, oh, oh, it's you.
I didn't well, me being me, I just called Zach Begans.
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I go, I've got a really, I've got a very
haunted doll here. I won't have it in my house.
Do you want it? And he goes, well, what does
it look like? What is it? And I'm like We're
texting back and forth. He's like, oh, that's a nail
fetish hate doll. Yeah, I want it. I'm going to
Vegas the next day. In Vegas, get it started acting
up that night. But it's in a perfect place, somebody
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where somebody doesn't live, somebody doesn't sleep. We're vulnerable when
we sleep. I wouldn't even keep my positive haunted dolls
in my bedroom as a rule, unless there's lots of protection.
Put them not where you're sleeping, or not where the
kids are sleeping. But yeah, so now that haunt, the
dark haunted doll is in Zach's museum and in a
perfect place for it.
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