October 5, 2025 • 26 mins
It's time! Ben is sending DeAnna on her first blind date at the Jonas Brothers concert. Is she nervous? What's she going to wear? Ben is getting the REAL chat before she heads out on her date.
Then later, Ben connects with our spy who is monitoring the date and connecting with DeAnna and the date during the evening.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
iHeart Podcasts bring you the ultimate Summer of Love Tree.
This is Famously Available. Welcome back to Famously Available. I'm
your host, Ben Higgins, and I'm really excited about this
episode because we've been getting to know our famously Available women,
and let me tell you, they are awesome. We got
(00:20):
Dianna and Mercedes. We've been catching up with them for
what seems like months now. Uh and today I'm sending
Dianna on a date in the real world and she's
here with me. She's looking beautiful, looking, flirty.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Am I.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I thought you were going to keep going. That's why
I paused. I was waiting for the multitude compliment.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Memorous, looking, spunky, all these things.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Okay, Spunky. I don't know if I hope this date
thinks I'm spunky, Ben.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I think Spunky's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Spunky. Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
This is a lot of fun for me. We've sent
you to San Francisco is where you're currently at. You're
going to a Jonas Brothers concert. This date will be
there with you. I'm very very excited to ask you,
how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I am super excited. I have to be honest. The
response to the podcast has been really great. But our
listeners keep messaging me wanting to know if I'm actually
going to date someone, Like they're all caught up now
on all of the things and they know what I
want and what I'm doing, but they would like to
know if I'm actually going to be dating.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I was like, yeah, I hope. So I'm just
waiting on Ben here.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. We want to get the
episodes out there. So the responses were incredible. We have
a lot of options available. I think this is a
good option for you.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Though.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Are you nervous at all?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, not right now. I just am like, you know,
I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Find the right outfit to wear. But like my genes
look so great, but they're so tight Ben that I'm suffocating.
But it's a good asset, you know what I mean.
And I'm really trying to highlight it because I put
one good foot in front of the other.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I'm not nervous.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
That's a good word you use there.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm not nervous. I'm actually really excited. But my hope
is that you know whomever it is that is coming
that I guess it's taking it seriously, because I realized
this is super unconventional to be going on a podcast,
to be dating a girl who was on reality TV
a long time ago, you know what I mean, and
to be able to think that that it could be something.
(02:33):
There's a possibility that it could be something. So I
hope is that that he's showing up with great intentions?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
If he's your friend, I'm going to blame you.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I think he is. Do you want to hear a
little bit about him?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm dying. No one will tell me anything.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Okay, So, first thing, he's tall.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh I love it, love love love.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We at famously available. Find him very.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Handsome, oh we that's exciting.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Easton especially he grew up in the Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, he's a dad, love it, love it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Very athletic.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh, bonus points.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's a nice guy too. That's the final thing I'm
gonna share with you tonight. He's a very nice guy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay. Is he funny?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You'll have to you have to be the judge of that.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think humor is something that I can never put
down as a characteristic for somebody, because I find people
hilarious that other people do not find funny.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, is he a Joe Bros.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Fan?
Speaker 6 (03:37):
I don't know that, Or is it going to be
like we're a couple of old chumps over here watching
the Jonas Brothers creeping out?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You do have some friends there with you? Or I
saw some instagrams last night. I wasn't invited to this party.
That's why I'm doing this virtually. I would have loved
to be invited.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's an all girls dinner, Ben, it's an all.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Girls dinner last night. Can you tell us who's there
from the show with you?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's Ashley I is here, Daisy is here, Kathy is here,
Susan is here, Susie is here. It's a good group
of solid women. That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Are you getting any of their advice as you get
ready for tonight?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You know what is so funny is all of the
girls were like, this is so exciting. You're going on
a date. What are you guys going to do? And
I was like, we're all kind of going on my
date together. We're all gonna be together, which is super exciting.
And so the girls were all actually really excited that
they're going to get to meet him, because I was like, Okay,
if he's great, we'll have a lot of fun. It's
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the Jonas Brothers concert. If he's not so great, there's
other people in the room to talk to to help
smooth things over. So for me, it's a win win.
Doesn't feel like a lot of pressure. We can just
hang out and enjoy good music, or we can really
hit it off and it won't matter who else is
in the room.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Is this more or less ideal than just the two
of you going out for the first time alone?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
To me, this is more ideal. I really appreciate non
traditional dating.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I had some friends who were like, oh my gosh,
you're going to a concert, like you're not going to
be able to talk and get to know each other.
But for me, that feels almost like a relief, because
what if the conversation does suck, you know what I mean,
Like we'd just be like so hot about Nick I'm like.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Joe, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But where it's also it's also pretty exciting because if
it is like someone can show up in a scenario
like this, you know, and I get it, He's not
coming there and it's just going to be me.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
There's going to be other women in the room.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So let's hope he doesn't flirt with all the other
women in the room and I can be the apple
of his eye this evening. But you know, beggars can't
beat you. I guess plenty of options to go around.
But you know, I just think that it's a lot
of fun. It's an activity. It's not a typical like
sit down get to know each other. There's no pressure
to like ask hard questions. We can just see if
the vibe is there, if we're feeling each other, and
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if we're not, then we got to go to a concert,
we got.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To eat some good food, and we got to enjoy
some friends.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, we've gotten to know you through the last
few weeks. I know the responses, as you said, have
been really encouraging, but also very curious of if you're
ever going to date. Have you taken in any of
these comments? Does it add a level of pressure now
knowing that there's people listening excited about this, Has anybody
given you any insights kind of talk about to us
(06:42):
the world of getting this show released, having the response
and how it's prepared you for this moment.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, I'm not putting any pressure on myself. I think
it's actually pretty exciting that anybody would want to listen
and follow along. And I think that I really appreciate
that there is, you know, a group of women out
there who are walking along in the same life phase
as I am, that are you know, newly divorced or
divorced and are trying to get into the dating world.
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And pretty much all of them is like, hey, good luck,
it's not pretty out there in the wild, and I'm like, yeah,
it's a good thing. I'm not in the wild. I
am like I am in a controlled zoo here, you
know what I mean, where we get to pet every
animal and see which ones we like the most. But
for the most part, everyone has had a really good response,
and I would say through social media, people have been
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really engaging because I just posted the other day what
to wear on this date, because I haven't been on
a date in so long that I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Know how to dress appropriately anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Because you know, I'm in that like sweet spot in
my life. I'm not like super young like Susie and Daisy,
where you know, I'm trendy, but I'm not like super
old like Susan and Kathy that sounds terrible. I don't
mean we didn't like that, but do you know what
I'm saying, Like I'm not in that bracket yet to
where I need to wear like sweaters around my neck.
So it's a fine line of like, hey, I don't
want to look to Lucy Goosey, but also comfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And feeling good in my skin. Do you understand?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So that was a lot of fun posting them on
social media because I got a really good response from
women everywhere telling me what I should wear on this date,
and it's kind of fun to bring everybody along.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah. Yeah, I did two options.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I was like myself, jeans and a cool shirt, like
that's I feel best in jeans, Like that's my comfort zone.
And then I was trying to like live on the
edge and do like a skirt and a black top,
and I was like, I don't know, this just doesn't
feel me. I'll be uncomfortable all night, like what if
my butt hangs out, or like I bend over, or
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like I have to suck it in all night, Like
it's the things that a forty somethings have to worry about, Ben,
And I'm not just not trying to worry about it.
And so luckily ninety five percent of the women voted
jeans and a cute top, and I feel really good
about that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah you should.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
My advice to you is go with what makes you
most comfortable tonight. And it's a concert, right, you can
kind of wear whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I would prefer my vans instead of high heels, but
I am since you're saying he's tall, I'll slip the
heels on.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, you know what heels are nice.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Any questions that you have for him coming off like
that you're thinking about you have to get answered, or
any ice breakers.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I used to go with the would you rathers as
ice breakers?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Shoot, Ben, Like, I wasn't feeling any nerves until you
start talking like, I didn't really have a plan going
into this. I just thought, when I walk into the
room and the door opens and the wind blows and
my hair falls back, he takes one look at me
and he falls madly in love, and then the rest
is all history. But now all of a sudden, I'm like, well, shoot,
do I need to open up chat GPT and figure
out how a first date's supposed to go?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Probably? Probably?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Okay, you want to hear my icebreaker?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, would you rather be a alligator or a bird?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Ben, why I got married from it?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
No, I need you to send me Jessica's number right now.
I'm just I hate to break it to you.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I appreciate all of your advice in the realm of
relationships and love, but I don't think that I'm gonna
be going with that one.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Wait, are you even going to tell me his name?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
No? No, there's your chance.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I tell you, I have to like walk up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He's gonna have to guess which one of me is
in the room.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do you think he'll know?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think he's gonna have a good idea.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Do you think I should wear an orange jumpsuit?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, we're gonna tell him. We've already told him. You
are the pretty brunette who is going to be so
excited to be there tonight. We're excited for you here
famously available once this gets started. Here's the thing, though,
here's my biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You want to hear it?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, if this date work, we don't have a season left,
Like we're done. Like with this episode goes one more,
we find out like that you guys are just perfect
and everything's happy and go lucky, and we close this chapter.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Maybe it's not, though, Ben, let me pause you. Maybe
it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Let's say, best case scenario. I go out tonight, I
meet this guy at the Jonas Brothers concert. We hit
it off. It's all there. He's emotionally stable and healthy
and also attractive and to all which we've got. But
let's say that we do hit it off. Yeah, why
isn't there a chance that there's a second date and
you follow me through that? A lot can change between
(11:34):
now the first date a second date, let alone the
eighth date. Because once people start removing the mask, you
know what I mean? Yeah, then you're talking about real
life stuff. Maybe there's beauty in that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Here's the deal. Then we're going to follow you along
for as long as you let us.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Are we manifesting? Is that what we're doing right now?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah? We are.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
We're doing the hope, the wishes, the manifestation, and we're
to follow along as long as you let us. And
then at some point you're gonna have to break up
with this, and you're gonna have to tell us, oh.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Break up with you. I'll have to break up with you.
I'm not good at breakup spin. I think that you
can google that and tell yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You're gonna have to tell us, You're gonna tell us. Hey,
please stop following me. This is getting weird. It's been
six years. Final two questions for you? What are you
hoping to get out tonight? At its basic level?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think what I'm hoping to get out of tonight
on the most basic level is just dip my toes
and beIN. It's been a long time since I've been
out on a date, a really long time. But there's
so much that goes along with that. Like, there's been
a long time that I have felt really beautiful. There's
been a long time, you know, that I have felt
truly desired, there has It's been a long time that
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I've actually had to have meaningful conversation with a person
of the opposite sex.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So for me, I'm just looking to, you know, get
my toes a little wet, that's all.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And if it blows me out of the water, then
I will welcome that.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Could this night end in the kiss?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh that would be exciting, wouldn't it. That was fun?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That would be fun, Ben, sign me up?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Are you a Jonas Brothers fan?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I do like the Joe Bros. But I like the
adult Joe Bros.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I felt creepy when they were really young, thinking that
the Joe Bros Were cool. But when they released that
song where they were dancing around in their underwear and
their shirts, what a man gotta do? I was like, Okay,
I'll take Nick or Joe or Knick or Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Oh, you cracked up.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You are in a good You are in the perfect place.
So here is my words for you. Have a blast,
you are incredible, you are beautiful. These are all very
true statements that nobody can deny. Just have a lot
of fun tonight because I cannot wait to catch up
with you after this date is over. Right here, I'm
famously available. We're getting started finally, and this is good.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm so excited. Thanks Ben.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I recently sent single Deanna Pappus out to a Jonas
Brothers concert for her first set up date here on
the show. Now, we always invite the dates to come
on the show and give their perspective as well, but
this date has opted to not come on the podcast.
But I've got someone else who was there and witnessed
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everything go down that night. So before I connect with
Diana this week and we get her thoughts, opinions, feelings, emotions,
all those things about the date, I thought I'd connect
with Cynthia, who was kind of observing the date and
hanging out with them all night long.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Cynthia, welcome to Famously Available.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I feel like I'm this undercover spy doing like Roman's
romance recon you are.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
You're one hundred percent that for us today. We are
here because we're curious. We're gonna have Diana on and
she's gonna share her thoughts and perspective on everything, kind
of what she was going through.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
But I think that's going to come from.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
More of a personal place for her, and I do
think it's always helpful to have an outside perspective come
in and share what they were seeing. You were there
for the evening at this concert. You met Dianna that night, correct?
Speaker 7 (15:23):
I did. That was the first time meeting her, Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And so then did you meet her date that night
as well?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I did, So I met both of them for the
first time that evening.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Let's talk about Deanna, because that's who we love and
care about here. How was she feeling looking? What was
kind of the vibe that you were picking up on
walking into that.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Ghoby, We had such great energy. First of all, she
was dressed amazingly, she looked super hot.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
She was really outgoing and open and.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Talking to a lot of people, Like she has such
good energy, Like you can't not help but fall in
love with her, Like, honestly, she did everything right when
it comes to I think dating, which is being presentable,
but not being like too presentable, if that makes kind
of sense, Like she was just there to have a
really good time, and I think that's the energy you
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want when you're dating.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
What about his vibe?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Vn same thing, like really good looking, super approachable, like
great to talk to. And then when I saw the
two of them talking, like I really thought there was
a vibe there.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Okay, so you're hinting at something from your perspective, was
there a vibe between them?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
I thought there was.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I really thought like there was good body language when
you know you're kind of facing towards the person and
you're open to speaking to them close enough that you
can have a conversation. It definitely seemed viby.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Now we were worried about this. Here famously available. This
was obviously an incredible event and a really fun event
to be at the Jonas Brothers concert.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
We had suites, we had.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Everything set up, But concerts are I don't think like
ideal for first dates. They're loud, there's other people around.
You want to have a good time, You want to
enjoy the music, so you don't want to be talking
the whole time. Do you think that possibly some of
the night was either enhanced by the concert or did
it feel like the concert was a difficult place to
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have a first date.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Oh, that's such a good question. I like the concert
idea as a.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
It's like a great meet cute. Oh we met at
a concert.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
We kind of hit it off, like, let's go to
coffee the next day or a couple days later. The
thing with that particular suite, if you've been to private
suites before, there's two different versions.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
One where there's like a glass wall.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
And a door, so you can have like an indoor
outdoor situation where there's like stadium seating outside, but you
can still have an indoor experience and it's a little
bit quieter.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
This was, unfortunately not that case. It was wide open.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
So even if you were like inside where there's like
sofa and the food, it's still a full blown concert
experience where it is really loud.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
So I could see where it could be difficult.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
You are having a conversation, you're kind of meeting, everyone's
having a good time, but it is so incredibly loud
that I don't think you necessarily get the best version
of like necessarily a first date, I would.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Say, meet cute.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I'm really shocked that them seeming like they were having
a really good time together, that there wasn't a let's
get together and get to know each other more.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's kind of where we're sitting right now. We did
hear that he and maybe you weren't around for this,
or maybe you are familiar with this. We have heard
that he asked her to go outside and talk at
some point and she did not agree to that. I
don't know if you're around for this part, what happened?
Are you familiar with it?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
That I didn't see. I did not see them leaving
to talk outside.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
I probably would have noticed that. I left about fifteen
minutes before the end of the concert. I'm old. I
wanted to miss the traffic.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
I'm with you. I would have been the same.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
So I didn't see that, but I'm glad that he did.
But again, I'm still shocked that there wasn't a get together.
I do feel like we're all at a certain age
that even if it's not like or give it a chance,
I guess is what I'm saying. You know, even if
you might not have that romantic spark right away, meet
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new people, just get together for that second chance, like
go out and have a coffee with someone and just
see worst case scenario. I don't think it's the worst
thing to say, like I'm gonna put you in the
friend zone, because we could all use more friends when
you get into your forties and your fifties. Sure it's
not like a horrible thing, and you never know that
person might have friends that might be a better.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Fit for you.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
So just the fact that I he was an into
even getting together after I really am shocked because she
again had such good energy, Like, how could you.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Not want to get together unless I mean he's divorced.
She's divorced.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I don't know how newly divorced he is, Like, wasn't
so new for him that.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Maybe the timing was off, because timing is so important too.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It is important, So you know what we've picked up on.
Did you ask either of them kind of what their
feelings were towards each other?
Speaker 6 (20:31):
At least initially, No, because I didn't want to interrupt,
Like it was kind of like things were like looking really.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Good, A little bit of personal information about you, kind
of heading up for our last group of questions here,
what is your romantic situation?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'm married, so I was talking to him, but I
also feel like I'm married.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I'm wearing a ring.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
People ask me about my husband. We had mutual friends
in common who know my husband because we go to
high We went to high school together, and people that
we went to high school with were there, So I
kind of feel like I'm that safe person to talk
to him, kind of like the gay best friend, like
easy to talk to because I'm not nothing's happening here.
So I don't know if like he felt comfortable talking
to me because I am married.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, but if you two did speak, he didn't at
all hint either way of what he was thinking towards
Deannaty not at.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
All No, which I also think again is really respectable too,
Like you know, it's not like we're in our twenties
and it's like, oh, she's a hottie. Like, I don't
think people do that. I think just the fact that
they were really connecting and they had a good energy
and again, like body language is so important that the
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body language was there. Again, like to say that they're
not having a coffee like just shocks me.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
If I was gay and I was single, I date her.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
She's so nice and awesome. She is like she's like
the package.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
She's a great package. She's great, she's awesome. That's what
we have her here, famously available.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
She needs to come to New York City. I feel
like this could be a good place for her.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, it's a little more maybe down have more people
kind of within what she's looking for. But I was
given advice when I was single by somebody, and I
think it's great advice when you're single, especially as you
get older. In our single just keep dating. Go on
weird dates, go on good dates, go on funky dates.
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Just keep dating because at some point you're going to
kind of figure out what it is that make maybe
brings out the best in you. And so for the
two of them, as they're both divorced, and they're looking
to get back out there in the dating world.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I am surprised that there isn't a follow up date,
and we're going to get maybe more information on that
here when we bring Deanna on this week and figure
out what you know from her perspective why there isn't
a second fall up date. But if she listens to this,
which she will, and you were to give her advice
specifically take away that this date worked or didn't work,
but just as she continues on this journey, what advice
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do you have for somebody in their forties and fifties
that are looking to date and trying to date and
trying to get back out there.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I think you nailed it. Number one is keep dating.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I look back after breakups and the people I dated
right after breakups, I almost want to apologize to them
because they didn't get my best self because I was so.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
New to it.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Again, you have to keep dating to get comfortable with it.
And it's also about you being comfortable with dating and
showing your true self and not your dating self, like
you want to show your real personality. And I think
number two, do the things that you love to do,
because then you're going to be a happy because it's
what you love to do, and you're going to be
around people who also have the same commonalities, like if
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you love to ron, join a running club, if you
love to cook, take some cooking classes, do things that
are your passion, and then you're going to attract the
people that have the same passions as you. And I
think that's really important. But no matter what, just keep
getting your dating legs under you. You have to just
keep going out and putting yourself out there.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, it's daunting, I know it is. It's a big
it's daunting, but I think once you get, like you said,
your dating legs, the pressure gets taken off. Every date
seems important, but less important, so you're not putting all
your weight into it. It becomes kind of a skill set,
a habit, and hopefully at the end you can find somebody.
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A final question for you, Cynthia, we've kind of gone
through the whole evening from your perspective, the good the
Bad's what you thought when the two of them walked
in and you met them both the first time. Was
your first interaction one of Oh my gosh, I could
actually see these two as like they're a couple or
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was it like these two have total different vibes.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
No, Actually, I could totally see them dating. I really could.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I think they have a lot of things in common
from what I talked to both of them about.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
It really just could be timing and the place.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
So I don't think when it comes to dating. I
would just tell her number one, don't take things personally either.
It had nothing to do with her. She did everything right.
She was herself, she was personable, she was outgoing, she
was lovely.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
To speak to.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
She looked incredible, like she was the package. So it's
not about you, it's the other person. And that's okay
because that does not mean that your person's not out there.
Just has to mean that you haven't met them yet.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, Cynthia, make us a deal here. If we bring
Dianna to New York City to put her on a date,
you are going to go sit like a table beside them.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yes, I'm gonna put on.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
A trench coat, I've got my sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And break it down for us right here, famously available, Cynthia,
thank you for coming on, thank you for going on
the data. I hope you had a great time, but
also your insight is very helpful.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Anytime I've got her back, I'll be her wingwoman here
in New York.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Thanks Cynthia, Thanks Ben. All Right, so we've gotten Cynthia's
perspective on the date. That's an outsider looking in and
giving us everything she saw. But stay tuned to this
week as we get Diana on the show to hear
her perspective on why the date worked or didn't work.
Or maybe there's some insights that we just aren't knowledgeable
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of right now that will help bring clarity to the
situation at hand.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
So stay tuned until next time. I've been Ben
iHeart Podcasts bring you the ultimate Summer of Love Tree.
This is Famously Available. Welcome back to Famously Available. I'm
your host, Ben Higgins, and I'm really excited about this
episode because we've been getting to know our famously Available women,
and let me tell you, they are awesome. We got
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Dianna and Mercedes. We've been catching up with them for
what seems like months now. Uh and today I'm sending
Dianna on a date in the real world and she's
here with me. She's looking beautiful, looking, flirty.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Am I.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I thought you were going to keep going. That's why
I paused. I was waiting for the multitude compliment.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Memorous, looking, spunky, all these things.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Okay, Spunky. I don't know if I hope this date
thinks I'm spunky, Ben.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I think Spunky's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Spunky. Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
This is a lot of fun for me. We've sent
you to San Francisco is where you're currently at. You're
going to a Jonas Brothers concert. This date will be
there with you. I'm very very excited to ask you,
how are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I am super excited. I have to be honest. The
response to the podcast has been really great. But our
listeners keep messaging me wanting to know if I'm actually
going to date someone, Like they're all caught up now
on all of the things and they know what I
want and what I'm doing, but they would like to
know if I'm actually going to be dating.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I was like, yeah, I hope. So I'm just
waiting on Ben here.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. We want to get the
episodes out there. So the responses were incredible. We have
a lot of options available. I think this is a
good option for you.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Though.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Are you nervous at all?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, not right now. I just am like, you know,
I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Find the right outfit to wear. But like my genes
look so great, but they're so tight Ben that I'm suffocating.
But it's a good asset, you know what I mean.
And I'm really trying to highlight it because I put
one good foot in front of the other.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I'm not nervous.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
That's a good word you use there.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm not nervous. I'm actually really excited. But my hope
is that you know whomever it is that is coming
that I guess it's taking it seriously, because I realized
this is super unconventional to be going on a podcast,
to be dating a girl who was on reality TV
a long time ago, you know what I mean, and
to be able to think that that it could be something.
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There's a possibility that it could be something. So I
hope is that that he's showing up with great intentions?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
If he's your friend, I'm going to blame you.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I think he is. Do you want to hear a
little bit about him?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm dying. No one will tell me anything.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Okay, So, first thing, he's tall.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh I love it, love love love.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We at famously available. Find him very.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Handsome, oh we that's exciting.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Easton especially he grew up in the Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, he's a dad, love it, love it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Very athletic.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh, bonus points.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's a nice guy too. That's the final thing I'm
gonna share with you tonight. He's a very nice guy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay. Is he funny?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You'll have to you have to be the judge of that.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think humor is something that I can never put
down as a characteristic for somebody, because I find people
hilarious that other people do not find funny.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, is he a Joe Bros.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Fan?
Speaker 6 (03:37):
I don't know that, Or is it going to be
like we're a couple of old chumps over here watching
the Jonas Brothers creeping out?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You do have some friends there with you? Or I
saw some instagrams last night. I wasn't invited to this party.
That's why I'm doing this virtually. I would have loved
to be invited.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's an all girls dinner, Ben, it's an all.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Girls dinner last night. Can you tell us who's there
from the show with you?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's Ashley I is here, Daisy is here, Kathy is here,
Susan is here, Susie is here. It's a good group
of solid women. That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Are you getting any of their advice as you get
ready for tonight?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You know what is so funny is all of the
girls were like, this is so exciting. You're going on
a date. What are you guys going to do? And
I was like, we're all kind of going on my
date together. We're all gonna be together, which is super exciting.
And so the girls were all actually really excited that
they're going to get to meet him, because I was like, Okay,
if he's great, we'll have a lot of fun. It's
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the Jonas Brothers concert. If he's not so great, there's
other people in the room to talk to to help
smooth things over. So for me, it's a win win.
Doesn't feel like a lot of pressure. We can just
hang out and enjoy good music, or we can really
hit it off and it won't matter who else is
in the room.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Is this more or less ideal than just the two
of you going out for the first time alone?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
To me, this is more ideal. I really appreciate non
traditional dating.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I had some friends who were like, oh my gosh,
you're going to a concert, like you're not going to
be able to talk and get to know each other.
But for me, that feels almost like a relief, because
what if the conversation does suck, you know what I mean,
Like we'd just be like so hot about Nick I'm like.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Joe, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But where it's also it's also pretty exciting because if
it is like someone can show up in a scenario
like this, you know, and I get it, He's not
coming there and it's just going to be me.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
There's going to be other women in the room.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So let's hope he doesn't flirt with all the other
women in the room and I can be the apple
of his eye this evening. But you know, beggars can't
beat you. I guess plenty of options to go around.
But you know, I just think that it's a lot
of fun. It's an activity. It's not a typical like
sit down get to know each other. There's no pressure
to like ask hard questions. We can just see if
the vibe is there, if we're feeling each other, and
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if we're not, then we got to go to a concert,
we got.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To eat some good food, and we got to enjoy
some friends.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, we've gotten to know you through the last
few weeks. I know the responses, as you said, have
been really encouraging, but also very curious of if you're
ever going to date. Have you taken in any of
these comments? Does it add a level of pressure now
knowing that there's people listening excited about this, Has anybody
given you any insights kind of talk about to us
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the world of getting this show released, having the response
and how it's prepared you for this moment.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, I'm not putting any pressure on myself. I think
it's actually pretty exciting that anybody would want to listen
and follow along. And I think that I really appreciate
that there is, you know, a group of women out
there who are walking along in the same life phase
as I am, that are you know, newly divorced or
divorced and are trying to get into the dating world.
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And pretty much all of them is like, hey, good luck,
it's not pretty out there in the wild, and I'm like, yeah,
it's a good thing. I'm not in the wild. I
am like I am in a controlled zoo here, you
know what I mean, where we get to pet every
animal and see which ones we like the most. But
for the most part, everyone has had a really good response,
and I would say through social media, people have been
(07:33):
really engaging because I just posted the other day what
to wear on this date, because I haven't been on
a date in so long that I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Know how to dress appropriately anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Because you know, I'm in that like sweet spot in
my life. I'm not like super young like Susie and Daisy,
where you know, I'm trendy, but I'm not like super
old like Susan and Kathy that sounds terrible. I don't
mean we didn't like that, but do you know what
I'm saying, Like I'm not in that bracket yet to
where I need to wear like sweaters around my neck.
So it's a fine line of like, hey, I don't
want to look to Lucy Goosey, but also comfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And feeling good in my skin. Do you understand?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So that was a lot of fun posting them on
social media because I got a really good response from
women everywhere telling me what I should wear on this date,
and it's kind of fun to bring everybody along.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah. Yeah, I did two options.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I was like myself, jeans and a cool shirt, like
that's I feel best in jeans, Like that's my comfort zone.
And then I was trying to like live on the
edge and do like a skirt and a black top,
and I was like, I don't know, this just doesn't
feel me. I'll be uncomfortable all night, like what if
my butt hangs out, or like I bend over, or
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like I have to suck it in all night, Like
it's the things that a forty somethings have to worry about, Ben,
And I'm not just not trying to worry about it.
And so luckily ninety five percent of the women voted
jeans and a cute top, and I feel really good
about that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah you should.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
My advice to you is go with what makes you
most comfortable tonight. And it's a concert, right, you can
kind of wear whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I would prefer my vans instead of high heels, but
I am since you're saying he's tall, I'll slip the
heels on.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, you know what heels are nice.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Any questions that you have for him coming off like
that you're thinking about you have to get answered, or
any ice breakers.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I used to go with the would you rathers as
ice breakers?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Shoot, Ben, Like, I wasn't feeling any nerves until you
start talking like, I didn't really have a plan going
into this. I just thought, when I walk into the
room and the door opens and the wind blows and
my hair falls back, he takes one look at me
and he falls madly in love, and then the rest
is all history. But now all of a sudden, I'm like, well, shoot,
do I need to open up chat GPT and figure
out how a first date's supposed to go?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Probably? Probably?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Okay, you want to hear my icebreaker?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, would you rather be a alligator or a bird?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Ben, why I got married from it?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
No, I need you to send me Jessica's number right now.
I'm just I hate to break it to you.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I appreciate all of your advice in the realm of
relationships and love, but I don't think that I'm gonna
be going with that one.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Wait, are you even going to tell me his name?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
No? No, there's your chance.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I tell you, I have to like walk up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He's gonna have to guess which one of me is
in the room.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do you think he'll know?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think he's gonna have a good idea.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Do you think I should wear an orange jumpsuit?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, we're gonna tell him. We've already told him. You
are the pretty brunette who is going to be so
excited to be there tonight. We're excited for you here
famously available once this gets started. Here's the thing, though,
here's my biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You want to hear it?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, if this date work, we don't have a season left,
Like we're done. Like with this episode goes one more,
we find out like that you guys are just perfect
and everything's happy and go lucky, and we close this chapter.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Maybe it's not, though, Ben, let me pause you. Maybe
it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Let's say, best case scenario. I go out tonight, I
meet this guy at the Jonas Brothers concert. We hit
it off. It's all there. He's emotionally stable and healthy
and also attractive and to all which we've got. But
let's say that we do hit it off. Yeah, why
isn't there a chance that there's a second date and
you follow me through that? A lot can change between
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now the first date a second date, let alone the
eighth date. Because once people start removing the mask, you
know what I mean? Yeah, then you're talking about real
life stuff. Maybe there's beauty in that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Here's the deal. Then we're going to follow you along
for as long as you let us.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Are we manifesting? Is that what we're doing right now?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah? We are.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
We're doing the hope, the wishes, the manifestation, and we're
to follow along as long as you let us. And
then at some point you're gonna have to break up
with this, and you're gonna have to tell us, oh.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Break up with you. I'll have to break up with you.
I'm not good at breakup spin. I think that you
can google that and tell yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You're gonna have to tell us, You're gonna tell us. Hey,
please stop following me. This is getting weird. It's been
six years. Final two questions for you? What are you
hoping to get out tonight? At its basic level?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think what I'm hoping to get out of tonight
on the most basic level is just dip my toes
and beIN. It's been a long time since I've been
out on a date, a really long time. But there's
so much that goes along with that. Like, there's been
a long time that I have felt really beautiful. There's
been a long time, you know, that I have felt
truly desired, there has It's been a long time that
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I've actually had to have meaningful conversation with a person
of the opposite sex.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So for me, I'm just looking to, you know, get
my toes a little wet, that's all.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And if it blows me out of the water, then
I will welcome that.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Could this night end in the kiss?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh that would be exciting, wouldn't it. That was fun?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That would be fun, Ben, sign me up?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Are you a Jonas Brothers fan?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I do like the Joe Bros. But I like the
adult Joe Bros.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I felt creepy when they were really young, thinking that
the Joe Bros Were cool. But when they released that
song where they were dancing around in their underwear and
their shirts, what a man gotta do? I was like, Okay,
I'll take Nick or Joe or Knick or Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Oh, you cracked up.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You are in a good You are in the perfect place.
So here is my words for you. Have a blast,
you are incredible, you are beautiful. These are all very
true statements that nobody can deny. Just have a lot
of fun tonight because I cannot wait to catch up
with you after this date is over. Right here, I'm
famously available. We're getting started finally, and this is good.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm so excited. Thanks Ben.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I recently sent single Deanna Pappus out to a Jonas
Brothers concert for her first set up date here on
the show. Now, we always invite the dates to come
on the show and give their perspective as well, but
this date has opted to not come on the podcast.
But I've got someone else who was there and witnessed
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everything go down that night. So before I connect with
Diana this week and we get her thoughts, opinions, feelings, emotions,
all those things about the date, I thought I'd connect
with Cynthia, who was kind of observing the date and
hanging out with them all night long.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Cynthia, welcome to Famously Available.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
I feel like I'm this undercover spy doing like Roman's
romance recon you are.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
You're one hundred percent that for us today. We are
here because we're curious. We're gonna have Diana on and
she's gonna share her thoughts and perspective on everything, kind
of what she was going through.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
But I think that's going to come from.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
More of a personal place for her, and I do
think it's always helpful to have an outside perspective come
in and share what they were seeing. You were there
for the evening at this concert. You met Dianna that night, correct?
Speaker 7 (15:23):
I did. That was the first time meeting her, Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And so then did you meet her date that night
as well?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I did, So I met both of them for the
first time that evening.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Let's talk about Deanna, because that's who we love and
care about here. How was she feeling looking? What was
kind of the vibe that you were picking up on
walking into that.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Ghoby, We had such great energy. First of all, she
was dressed amazingly, she looked super hot.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
She was really outgoing and open and.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Talking to a lot of people, Like she has such
good energy, Like you can't not help but fall in
love with her, Like, honestly, she did everything right when
it comes to I think dating, which is being presentable,
but not being like too presentable, if that makes kind
of sense, Like she was just there to have a
really good time, and I think that's the energy you
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want when you're dating.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
What about his vibe?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Vn same thing, like really good looking, super approachable, like
great to talk to. And then when I saw the
two of them talking, like I really thought there was
a vibe there.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Okay, so you're hinting at something from your perspective, was
there a vibe between them?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
I thought there was.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I really thought like there was good body language when
you know you're kind of facing towards the person and
you're open to speaking to them close enough that you
can have a conversation. It definitely seemed viby.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Now we were worried about this. Here famously available. This
was obviously an incredible event and a really fun event
to be at the Jonas Brothers concert.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
We had suites, we had.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Everything set up, But concerts are I don't think like
ideal for first dates. They're loud, there's other people around.
You want to have a good time, You want to
enjoy the music, so you don't want to be talking
the whole time. Do you think that possibly some of
the night was either enhanced by the concert or did
it feel like the concert was a difficult place to
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have a first date.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Oh, that's such a good question. I like the concert
idea as a.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
It's like a great meet cute. Oh we met at
a concert.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
We kind of hit it off, like, let's go to
coffee the next day or a couple days later. The
thing with that particular suite, if you've been to private
suites before, there's two different versions.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
One where there's like a glass wall.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
And a door, so you can have like an indoor
outdoor situation where there's like stadium seating outside, but you
can still have an indoor experience and it's a little
bit quieter.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
This was, unfortunately not that case. It was wide open.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
So even if you were like inside where there's like
sofa and the food, it's still a full blown concert
experience where it is really loud.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
So I could see where it could be difficult.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
You are having a conversation, you're kind of meeting, everyone's
having a good time, but it is so incredibly loud
that I don't think you necessarily get the best version
of like necessarily a first date, I would.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Say, meet cute.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I'm really shocked that them seeming like they were having
a really good time together, that there wasn't a let's
get together and get to know each other more.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's kind of where we're sitting right now. We did
hear that he and maybe you weren't around for this,
or maybe you are familiar with this. We have heard
that he asked her to go outside and talk at
some point and she did not agree to that. I
don't know if you're around for this part, what happened?
Are you familiar with it?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
That I didn't see. I did not see them leaving
to talk outside.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
I probably would have noticed that. I left about fifteen
minutes before the end of the concert. I'm old. I
wanted to miss the traffic.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
I'm with you. I would have been the same.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
So I didn't see that, but I'm glad that he did.
But again, I'm still shocked that there wasn't a get together.
I do feel like we're all at a certain age
that even if it's not like or give it a chance,
I guess is what I'm saying. You know, even if
you might not have that romantic spark right away, meet
(19:35):
new people, just get together for that second chance, like
go out and have a coffee with someone and just
see worst case scenario. I don't think it's the worst
thing to say, like I'm gonna put you in the
friend zone, because we could all use more friends when
you get into your forties and your fifties. Sure it's
not like a horrible thing, and you never know that
person might have friends that might be a better.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Fit for you.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
So just the fact that I he was an into
even getting together after I really am shocked because she
again had such good energy, Like, how could you.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Not want to get together unless I mean he's divorced.
She's divorced.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I don't know how newly divorced he is, Like, wasn't
so new for him that.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Maybe the timing was off, because timing is so important too.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It is important, So you know what we've picked up on.
Did you ask either of them kind of what their
feelings were towards each other?
Speaker 6 (20:31):
At least initially, No, because I didn't want to interrupt,
Like it was kind of like things were like looking really.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Good, A little bit of personal information about you, kind
of heading up for our last group of questions here,
what is your romantic situation?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'm married, so I was talking to him, but I
also feel like I'm married.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I'm wearing a ring.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
People ask me about my husband. We had mutual friends
in common who know my husband because we go to
high We went to high school together, and people that
we went to high school with were there, So I
kind of feel like I'm that safe person to talk
to him, kind of like the gay best friend, like
easy to talk to because I'm not nothing's happening here.
So I don't know if like he felt comfortable talking
to me because I am married.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, but if you two did speak, he didn't at
all hint either way of what he was thinking towards
Deannaty not at.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
All No, which I also think again is really respectable too,
Like you know, it's not like we're in our twenties
and it's like, oh, she's a hottie. Like, I don't
think people do that. I think just the fact that
they were really connecting and they had a good energy
and again, like body language is so important that the
(21:53):
body language was there. Again, like to say that they're
not having a coffee like just shocks me.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
If I was gay and I was single, I date her.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
She's so nice and awesome. She is like she's like
the package.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
She's a great package. She's great, she's awesome. That's what
we have her here, famously available.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
She needs to come to New York City. I feel
like this could be a good place for her.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, it's a little more maybe down have more people
kind of within what she's looking for. But I was
given advice when I was single by somebody, and I
think it's great advice when you're single, especially as you
get older. In our single just keep dating. Go on
weird dates, go on good dates, go on funky dates.
(22:38):
Just keep dating because at some point you're going to
kind of figure out what it is that make maybe
brings out the best in you. And so for the
two of them, as they're both divorced, and they're looking
to get back out there in the dating world.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I am surprised that there isn't a follow up date,
and we're going to get maybe more information on that
here when we bring Deanna on this week and figure
out what you know from her perspective why there isn't
a second fall up date. But if she listens to this,
which she will, and you were to give her advice
specifically take away that this date worked or didn't work,
but just as she continues on this journey, what advice
(23:16):
do you have for somebody in their forties and fifties
that are looking to date and trying to date and
trying to get back out there.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I think you nailed it. Number one is keep dating.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I look back after breakups and the people I dated
right after breakups, I almost want to apologize to them
because they didn't get my best self because I was so.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
New to it.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Again, you have to keep dating to get comfortable with it.
And it's also about you being comfortable with dating and
showing your true self and not your dating self, like
you want to show your real personality. And I think
number two, do the things that you love to do,
because then you're going to be a happy because it's
what you love to do, and you're going to be
around people who also have the same commonalities, like if
(23:59):
you love to ron, join a running club, if you
love to cook, take some cooking classes, do things that
are your passion, and then you're going to attract the
people that have the same passions as you. And I
think that's really important. But no matter what, just keep
getting your dating legs under you. You have to just
keep going out and putting yourself out there.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, it's daunting, I know it is. It's a big
it's daunting, but I think once you get, like you said,
your dating legs, the pressure gets taken off. Every date
seems important, but less important, so you're not putting all
your weight into it. It becomes kind of a skill set,
a habit, and hopefully at the end you can find somebody.
(24:38):
A final question for you, Cynthia, we've kind of gone
through the whole evening from your perspective, the good the
Bad's what you thought when the two of them walked
in and you met them both the first time. Was
your first interaction one of Oh my gosh, I could
actually see these two as like they're a couple or
(24:58):
was it like these two have total different vibes.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
No, Actually, I could totally see them dating. I really could.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I think they have a lot of things in common
from what I talked to both of them about.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
It really just could be timing and the place.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
So I don't think when it comes to dating. I
would just tell her number one, don't take things personally either.
It had nothing to do with her. She did everything right.
She was herself, she was personable, she was outgoing, she
was lovely.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
To speak to.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
She looked incredible, like she was the package. So it's
not about you, it's the other person. And that's okay
because that does not mean that your person's not out there.
Just has to mean that you haven't met them yet.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, Cynthia, make us a deal here. If we bring
Dianna to New York City to put her on a date,
you are going to go sit like a table beside them.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yes, I'm gonna put on.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
A trench coat, I've got my sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And break it down for us right here, famously available, Cynthia,
thank you for coming on, thank you for going on
the data. I hope you had a great time, but
also your insight is very helpful.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Anytime I've got her back, I'll be her wingwoman here
in New York.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Thanks Cynthia, Thanks Ben. All Right, so we've gotten Cynthia's
perspective on the date. That's an outsider looking in and
giving us everything she saw. But stay tuned to this
week as we get Diana on the show to hear
her perspective on why the date worked or didn't work.
Or maybe there's some insights that we just aren't knowledgeable
(26:36):
of right now that will help bring clarity to the
situation at hand.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
So stay tuned until next time. I've been Ben
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