A Wicked Blanket (or Tapestry) with Keltie Knight

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to scrubbing In. Did I get
you there?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Scrubbing It's like a collab?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I love it. I'm scrubbed in. Yes, I just came
from a mammogram, so I literally did just scrub in. Wow.
I was just in one of those scrubby things that
they doesn't ever close. They're like put the thing in
the front, then you just walk out holding it with
your elbows, hoping for the best.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, well, in case you were wondering,
Becca Tilly is not here, Kelty Knight is sitting in.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Her store, very happy to fill in, uh while the
kids vacation and the workers work.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know, Okay, so why are you not there? I wanted, well,
I wanted to talk to talk to you about this,
and it's actually so perfect that you are the co
host today because everybody was asking me like, why aren't
you at Ally's wedding? Weren't you at Alley's wedding? And
I'm like, nobody understands this working world better than Keelty Night,

(01:07):
So I can't just take vacation. Really when I want
to take vacation, Like my schedule has not been my
own for like a decade, and nobody seems to like
not even my closest friends seemed to really grasp it.
And so when we got invited, I love Alli and
I obviously wanted to go to Amsterdam so fun. She
needed kind of like the final head count by January,

(01:29):
and I was just like, I can't see January. Yeah,
oh that's so early. Is it really well for May? Yeah,
it was like around January she needed kind of like
the final Maybe it was sort of the end of January,
but she needed like the final yes or no. So
we were trying to make it work, and then we
couldn't figure out the kid's schedule, so Robbie wasn't gonna
go with me. I was gonna go to myself. And
then I was like, going to Amsterdam from a Thursday

(01:50):
to a Sunday just feels just too much on my
aging body, yep, And so I had to decline I
couldn't go, and I was like, I'm having so much
fomo see everything, like I wish I could have been there.
And I went to her bachelorette because I really wanted
to like celebrate her old and celebrate. But yeah, I'm
having like a lot of fomo watching everything that's going
on over there.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
This is the really hard thing. And I feel like
we just talked about this, Like the girls. Becca's over
there so she can be cause she can go wherever
she want, like your backa, sorry about your backa, because
she's like free kind of freelance, right, Like she does
this and then she does her own stuff. But it's
like caution to the wind, can go and then she
could stay for two weeks after she pays for that
super expensive ticket to Europe, right, you know, whereas you

(02:31):
have to be back for Monday morning. Our girls and
Lady Gang are the same way, and I'm like, oh
my god, guys, like if we don't get this done
by ten, I have to go to work and then
and they're like, but we can do it later. I'm like,
but but later, I'm going to be It's very stressful
to have a real job. It's very stressful, and I
just feel like I feel the fomo as well. But

(02:52):
that's the risk you take when you're someone that has
a destination wedding, do you know what I mean? Like
she I'm sure she understood. It's just it's really hard
to get to Europe for the weekend, you know what
I mean, Like Europe for the weekend is way far.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
And she didn't, I mean, she totally understood. There was
never like any sort of anything with her. She got it.
And actually, it's so funny because I was thinking about
having a destination wedding for a while and I was like,
I just don't think there's so much to it. That
was like weighing heavily on me that I was like,
cause I'm in my mind too, I'm like, when am
I going to have the you know, week to really

(03:27):
get up and go and do it because of the
jet lag and like you know, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So so that you're not gonna have a destination wedding now,
not that far.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, I was looking into Europe, but I think if
I do anything, it's right now. We're in Cabo.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I love Cabo for a wedding. Yeah, that's the preferred
area for a destination wedding. Yeah, it's easy get to
get to. There's no times like that to me is perfection,
Like it's good weather, good weather, and like everyone you know, listen,
you're not an elder, but like at this point in
our lives people do.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
You have far off around, but people have kids, people.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Have jobs, Like it's not like we're in our twenties
where it's kind of like there's nothing holding us back.
And also takes like two days to get better after
your hangover. It's like Cabo feels appropriate. The best weddings
I've been to have been in Mexico. Like it's just
so fun. You're drinking tequila, you're on the beach, like
it's just it's good vibes.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, it's the vibe. It's like the vibe I think
we want. We want people to be away, get away,
feel that type of energy. And also like yeah, the weather,
the closeness, everything which kind of fell into place. So
now we're just kind of figuring out where exactly. Yeah,
but that's that's the region we're in right now. Do
you have a dress? No? I have nothing.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Nothing. No, I'm very surprised. Honestly, I'm glad we're talking
about this. It's not on your rundown. But I was
thinking about you last night and knew I was coming here,
and I thought, it's just so interesting to me because
you were like the last time I sat in this chair,
we walked out. You probably don't remember this. We walked
out and you were talking off camera about like you
were ready, you wanted to get engage, which like you

(05:00):
were like I am ready. How many more hints can
I drop? Like I'm ready, let's go. Like you were
so gung ho to get engaged. I thought you would
be had the wedding planned in two weeks, and here
we are, like you've been engaged a year.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Not quite okay, close a couple months, and there.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
You haven't even tried on address yet. You don't even
know if you're going to Cabbo.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Where was the dedication to this marriage that I saw
during the engagement process.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
So I think what I realized is that, like there's
so much to this wedding that I feel like I've
thought about it my whole life, and I'm it's not
decision fatigue, because I'm not really having to make any decisions,
but I just cannot make a decision of where it is.
So like I have gone from Italy. We were getting
married in Italy Thanksgiving weekend, and then we were going

(05:47):
to do I think we went from Italy to Santa Barbara.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh, I love a Santa Barbara weather, and it was
like the.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Weather, the weather was like really stressing me out cold.
So then we went to like we were in la
because we're gonna doing this in his backyard. And then
I was back on the weather being like kind of
whack and not wanting to I really want to be
outdoors for my wedding. So then that's where we kind
of landed in Cabo. And then also dealing with schedules,
kids schedule, school schedules. We're trying to work around our

(06:15):
two kids. His brother has kids, my sister has kids,
so we're trying to be respectful of everybody's school situation.
So it's just been really hard to like nail down
a venue and then like I'll look at a venue
and I'll be like, this is the one, and then
I like we've seen, like I've looked at seven venues
in Cabo and I cannot decide which is the one.
I'm like, I have to go look at them. Yeah,
So then finding time to go out there is like

(06:37):
a whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Where did Alex and Josephine get married. I went to
their wedding, you know, from the I'm gonna look it
up for you. It was so good. The venue was perfect.
She's a supermodel, so it was like amazing. Wait, I
want to tell you something. Justice for the backyard wedding,
because I got married in my friend's backyard in Studio
City to Chris. We got married. It cost us zero money.

(06:58):
We had a taco truck. We had like a essentially
like a trader Joe's Costco bar that we took planters
and we just put all the booze in ice and
you just made your own drink and we danced on
the grass and we had a great time.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
So it wasn't that I didn't want to do a
backyard wedding, Like I love the idea of getting married
in his parents' yard. I really loved it. It's the
weather that was like stressing me out.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
LA's beautiful weather.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, that's what you say until you're like planning a wedding,
and then I find that I'm like, Okay, it's gray
all of May, it's raining. It was raining.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
We had great weather August seventeenth. She always points out
we had the hurricane last August.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, we had a hurricane last August. You're right, you're right.
You know. No, you're right, it's very landslide. You're right. No,
you know it's like roll the dice and you don't
know what you're gonna get here.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Lately, let me tell you something. So Jack from Lady Gang,
she just got married in France about six months ago,
and it was very far to get to.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I love Jack.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I would probably not travel that far for anyone else
in my life. It was like Becka and I were
looking at each other like could we not have done
this in Santa Barbara? Like is there not like a
faux chateau that like they've aged beautifully?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Like do we need to go to them?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It wasn't just it was like you flew to Paris,
then you took a train and niece, and then you
took a shuttle. Like it was like it was the
amazing race of Jack's wedding because she's such a perfectionist
about like where what it looks like that she went
to the middle of nowhere and found this chateau.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
So that was like my first thing when we were
in Italy, I was like I wanted to be somewhere
that's not plane train car ride, Like, ill, that's crazy
plane train car ride so we found plane, plane and
then a car ride.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I have to really love someone even do a connection.
But when we finally got there, the weather was so bad.
Like she she had Farmers Almanact years in advance, being
like this is the date. And she was in Paris
the whole week before the wedding like trying to like
get her, you know, get an on schedule and stuff,
and she was texting us just hysterically crying, like it's
going to rain on the wedding day. It's going to

(08:50):
rain on the wedding day. It's going to rain on
the wedding day. And up to like the night before,
she was like.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's gonna rain tomorrow. This whole wedding is. I'm like, girl,
it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
You got to relax the day the sun is out,
it's so beautiful, like perfect weather. She wasted that whole
week before worrying about the weather. And then at five o'clock,
we're all sitting outside for dinner, like huge seated dinner,
and it starts sprinkling and she brought out these like
little parasols. We're all holding our parasols, and that was
like the moment of the night. The little sprinkle. So
if it does rain, it'll be the moment of the wedding.

(09:20):
Just have the parasols ready. Yeah, the look on her
face she does. She's like, if it rains, all canceled.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Though, na I can't plan for everything. You can't know,
you can't it goes. I agree, no, but I'm like,
if I can stack the odds in my favor, you.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Know, you got to stack the odds.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, the weather is really the only thing. Like, like
Robbie's like, what do you see when you think about
our wedding? I'm like, gorgeous outdoors. That's literally all I
want is like gorgeous outdoors. And where we Where's the
most likely place that I can get that? Cabo California?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh sorry, Cabo say I'm just saying, so the California
is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's not. It's really not. It's really not. But anyways,
it's not off the table either if Cobb doesn't work out. Yeah,
back to the backyard.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Back to the backyard. Yeah, I mean a good thing
about the backyard. If most of your people, if your
people were local, you could just be like, guys, we're
gonna push this a week and then just get everyone
to come next week.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
If it's ready to do that. I don't know you could.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
You're the bride. We all have to succumb to your wishes.
It's your bridal era.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, but I am. I think like I
went looking at dresses a couple of weeks ago, and
that like really got me in the do you try
the bridle mode? Yeah, like I was your vibe. So
it's funny because I had no idea what I wanted
an address, so I went and I tried on a couple,
and I think that I want, oh my gosh, I'm
forgetting what it's called now, a drop, a corset, drop

(10:44):
something something that's like tight here and then kind of
goes out. Uh huh. That's kind of not that.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I feel like we need two to three dresses for you.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Definitely two okay, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Like I feel like there's a prince like I need
you to be full bridle Barbie, ye for the thing
and photos, and then something sleek sexy for like reception, funny.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then that's exactly what it is. I want to
be like like bride Barbie, and then I want to
be like sexy, yeah, seductress, yeah, one hundred percent. But
not like seductress, No, not seductress, but like, you know,
sexy adjacent to the party.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like wifey for lifeyvice.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, lady in the streets, the lady in the streets,
but a freaking sheets. Yeah, that's the vibe I want
for the party. I love it. Okay, I'm excited for you.
Thank you, send me all. And I think I need
a little bit of like kelty energy because it does
feel like it's like this whole other job that I
just don't want to do at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, you get up so early in the morning, and
I remember when I was up, I was in my
early in the morning era, and it really deflates you
because by the time two o'clock rolls around, you're like
and scene like, I'm just going to try to kind
of keep my life going, but you don't want to
start another job planning.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Correct, That's kind of where I've been. But I I
have so the only thing I have secured is I
have my efficient and my bridesmaids. Okay, now that I
have my bridesmaids, I'm like getting on them to like, Okay,
let's get together and let's really like figure this thing out. Okay,
and that's going to be helpful, I think, Okay, yeah,
I'm really excited for you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You know there there haven't been now that I'm an elder,
there haven't been as many weddings in my life, and
so I'm living.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Vicariously through you.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
So I'm going to need you to buck up on
the schedule and get this going, you know what I mean.
I need something to look forward to for this year,
for next year.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
But no, it's going to be it's for sure, probably
gonna we're really wanting to do January.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
What she wants weather, and she picks the winter. Is
the winter in Cabo?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Good? Yes, oh so it's not so hot but it's
not like hurricane season. Great.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you seem to know what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, this is what Google is telling me. January and
February good months in Cabo. Have you been to Have
you been there?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've never even really been to Cabo because again, all
I do is work, so I don't have time to
go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean, oh, I did you miss out on like
tons of weddings and everything. One of my I guess regrets.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
My friend Jess got married and in Florida at the Breakers,
and I was so in my career that like just
didn't even cross my mind that I should sacrifice whatever
stupid shoot I.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Was doing that weekend to like go to her wedding, and.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
The only regret that you have in that.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, and well, like and I missed it. And now
they've married and they celebrated their ten year anniversary and
everyone talks about the wedding all the time, and like,
I just never saw her on her wedding day. And
it's just those are things that you just hold so
fast to now, like I'm like, I really don't remember
what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It really wasn't that important.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
It didn't make or break my life in the way
that I thought.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
It was, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Like it's just doesn't all any of it doesn't seem
that important. So I don't know, I feel like go
to the things because those are the most favorite.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's like such a toss up, though, do you know
what I mean? Because it's like who knows, Like I
think about that stuff all the time. Like I was
actually talking to my fiance about it because I was
like there was a time in my life where I
was like grinding so hard and not making any money.
So I just didn't do anything right. I just didn't
experience anything a lot of years. And I was like,
I don't regret it because I'm like, hey, I was broke,

(14:04):
so I was saving my money and b who knows
if I would be where I am today had I
not done that? Do you know what I mean? So
it's like I don't have any regrets. But it is
like this weird thing I think with Ali's wedding is
what really has been like making me think about it
because I'm like, I really missed out on this experience
that like all my friends are there and I feel
like it's like this really like fun experience. Yeah, because
I couldn't figure it out, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, that'll probably haunt you forever.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
My gosh, I was already having those feelings and now
keilty just solidified it.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I feel my way sometimes like I feel I don't
know the give and take of it all? You know?
Do you ever read those like late Night Late Night
on TikTok. Sometimes I get into like I'm a hospice nurse.
Here's the ten things people told me before they died,
and like all of them were like, I wish I
hadn't worked so hard, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, but I think to me, like I literally I
don't think you understand. I say it's to Becca all
the time. I'm like, I need kilty night energy right now.
I need it with my wedding, I need it with
my this, I need it with my that. Because you're
just like a doer. You are literally a doer. I'm
doing less these days, are you really? Derek my assistants here,
he said.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
No, I'm doing I'm less, I'm less psycho about it all,
for sure. For sure, I'm doing just as much. But like,
if it gets done, it gets done, and if it doesn't,
it doesn't. Whereas old Kelt would stay up till four
in the morning and drive everyone around her nuts so
bananas trying to get it done on the timeline that

(15:31):
she made up in her head because it needed to
be done by tuesday, and like, but no one actually
said it needed to be done by tuesday, but just
that's what we need to do. And I turned in
everything early. And I remember when we were writing our
second book and Becca from Lady Gang was like, I
was like, the book is due. We have to work
all weekend to finish the things, and she was like,
they give you that. They give you that as like
a timeline. She's like, it's not. I was like, but

(15:53):
it says do. She's like, yeah, but like who turns
things in on time?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I do? I know me too. We ended up. I
don't know if we turned it in on time. But
that's very funny. I'm the same way. If I see
a deadline, I'm like, Okay, I need to get it
in like the day before the day line.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Because I don't want them to think I'm late, right,
and I have to send them an email in the
morning like it's coming. Don't worry. I have it working,
like I don't know. Yeah, I sit all night on
Sunday night, I sit and I plan out all my
emails for Monday morning, and then I time them so
everyone gets the fresh email at eight am in their
inbox because I don't want to mail them on Sunday night.
But I know that I don't have time Monday morning
to do these emails, so I do it all Sunday

(16:27):
night like I have a whole schedule. It's just I'm
very intense, but I'm trying. I'm more chill.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Though, do you want to help me plan my wedding?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I would love to come to your dress fitting. I
feel like this is something that I'm very good at,
is getting ladies' bums to look amazing in wedding dresses.
It doesn't sound like dress number one is going to
have a tight bum, but dress number two may and
like the little pinch. I mean, you don't need my
help because you've worn so many gowns in your life too.
But it's like for people who've never worn a gown before,

(16:55):
they go in and get their wedding dress fitting, and
the late at the store is trying to do the
least right because it's like they probably I think with
a lot of dresses they add one hundred dollars or
one hundred and fifty for your like fitting fee or whatever,
and then you get two rounds of adjustments or whatever.
You know, it's like a lot of times it's in
the cost of your dress, so they're not making a

(17:17):
lot of bridle stores do that. It's like one hundred
fifty dollars and you get to.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
You know, they're charging now for if you book like
an appointment to just try on dresses, they're like charging
for that now.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, because everyone's doing it for their Instagram. Jack Vanick
from Lady Gang tried on one hundred and forty two dresses.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
She went viral.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
There is that thing like I want to do less
we try on that many dresses. When I see Jack
Vanick coming to my bridle store, I know she's not
buying anything and she's going to take I think they
work on commission, you know, so yeah, I get I
understand that.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I was like, it was funny because so the place
they charged, you know, they ain't charging me. But then
she told me about this other store and she's like, oh,
you shoul books. I looked online and it was like
fifty bucks to reserve and I was like, that's so weird.
It goes towards the cost of your dress if you
buy the dress, if you buy the right, if you
buy the dress there. But I'm like, I do think.
But she was like, yeah, they're doing this now because
a lot of people, like you said, just want to

(18:09):
do it for the for the videos and the whatever.
And I was like, it's so funny because if I like,
if I had one of the dresses I tried on first,
if I loved it, I would have been sold, like
I don't want to try on I don't want to
try one hundred dresses, but I want to try on
like five.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
But you've tried, You've worn a lot of gowns, so
you know in your hosting and at your at the
iHeart like, I mean, you've worn dresses.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
You've worn gowns, so I know what's better on you
know what.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You've tried on a lot of dresses, so you know
what is going to be good on your body. Whereas
like our everyday scrubber, she may not have done that
many maybe her prom, maybe a graduation, maybe a wedding,
maybe a bridesmaid's dress which is probably made with like
towels and you tie it together in the strap side
thing you want to have it as like you know,
those are another like really made couture with a corset.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
And all that stuff and it.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So you know, I think it's I think it's exciting
to trying the dresses, and but I get that you
would be a little farther along in the process than
that every normy girl. Every yes, you're not a normy bride.
You're a special bride and you're so many bride. Thank
you Keilty Knight, What do you think the scrubs will
do for you? Not the scrubs, the scrubbers. What do
you think they'll do when you get married? Do you
think they'll like do like a big zoom meeting where

(19:22):
they all hold up like hearts or something.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I don't know that would make me so emotional. I
bet they would. Honestly, When I think about stuff with
my wedding, I get like really emotional about it, Like
it's like so crazy. I'm like so excited, and like
I was thinking about, like did you see that meme
with the dog the girl that made her dog her bouquet? Yeah,
I was thinking about making my dog my bouquet, And
like thinking about all this stuff makes me like so emotional.

(19:44):
I'm like, I don't know if I like, I don't
know how I'm gonna do it. Like the day of, I.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Feel that it's gonna be awesome. I'm gonna do exactly
like this, but even prettier with a waterproof Messcara.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm actually scared. Like I was texting back after Alley's
I'm like, did she cry?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Alley's not really emotional and She's like she got teary
at some point, but like it wasn't like a torential downpour,
and I'm like, I get so emotional, like I'm scared.
I'm not even gonna make it like twenty minutes without crying.
That's great, That's not great, it's great. It is what
it is.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
My husband cried in our vows.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I cried.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I love to cry. Crying feels great. You can get
a beta blocker, though, if you're really worried about it.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
What is that? A beta blocker? You? God, you know what.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's just she's had all these jobs and people just
love her. You never taken a beta blocker for an
audition before? No, Oh my god. A beta blocker basically
blocks your emotions and your nerves and people Hollywood, people
other than you, and I've done it many times. Take
it when they have like a big red carpet, or
like when I was auditioning for stuff and it like
a lot of actors and actresses take them before big

(20:46):
auditions because it calms your nervous system and you don't
get the heart beats, you don't get the sweats, you
don't get the like nervous energy that makes you TALKTA
blocker like b Eta beta. You know what it is,
you guys do, right? A beta blocker? No, you've never
Derek knows.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I don't know. I've heard of it for some reason.
I thought it was eye drops.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, no, no, it's like a little pill you take
in it turns off your yes. So you could get
a beta blocker. But I don't think you want to
do that on your wedding day.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
But you should definitely get a beta blocker on my
wedding day.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, just to like, I mean, I think you'll still cry,
but it might just calm you down, like I.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Want to cry, let yourself go all day long.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, whatever normally is going to happen to you usually
let naturally happen to you.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh my god, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's a beautiful thing. And you know what, you just
know that you have to have, Like I told Jack
the same thing because Jack Jack from Ladygang. I keep
saying it because I don't want to just be like
this Jack person works for On her, she had like
she has crazy anxiety, like really bad anxiety, and she
was very emotional as well. And Jared, who she married,
is very sweaty. He's like got long hair and he's

(21:48):
very sweaty guy, and so I was like, you have
to get like really cute handmade. Maybe you get like
a scrubber who's like real crafty to make it handmade
little doily like handkerchiefs with your wedding date on it,
and you have that just in your hand, and it's
in your bouquet, and it's like it's just in your
hand all day, so you can just wipe your little
tears all day, but a very dainty like.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
They're not gonna be little tears. They're gonna bridger tin.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, they're gonna bridge you or you could do that.
What what is the housewife? That she folds it into
a perfect triangle and just as the inner I think
it's Candace.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
You're talking to the wrong girl. Oh my god, this bang?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
How dare you let me have this during this whole thing?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm sorry, Oh my god. Okay, I want to talk
about you. Okay, So now let's take a Can we
talk about your swimsuit thing? Yeah, but let's take us
quick beat and then we'll come right back and we're back.

(22:58):
It's very funny because when you guys are talking that,
I was literally thinking I might have to take all
my photos, like before my wedding, because I'm going to
be crying so much.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I think you could take your beauty shots before the
day before or something not the day before, in the morning,
like after you read it.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right, take a beta blocker or whatever. Photos. I'm going
to do some research.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not against I'm really not against you doing a
wedding photoshoot on a mountaintop, you guys after the fact.
Going back, I don't know why people don't do that.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I'm very sensitive to drugs though, because when we went
to Disneyland yesterday, I took a drama mean and I
literally felt like a like I was like a horse
that was tranquilized. I was like, down, Well.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's what drama meine is. And honestly it was less drowsy.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
It said, less drowsy on the botting. So it's just
like a little bit of drama meine, Yes, but drama
too right, less drowsy times too, Like drama meane is
what you take when you have seasickness when you're on
a cruise ship or yeah, for the rides, but I
just feel like, maybe just don't go on the rides.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well, what do you do when you've got two kids
that want to go on the rides with you?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Can they not go with their father?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, but it's bonding. You can bond in line with
that big pickle. You know, it's so different. It's so different.
If you had step kids, you would be on those
rides with a smile on your face.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You get barfie on the rides, very barfie. Okay. I
just feel like the dramamine, Like it just feels like
have you seen that movie Bridesmaids where Kristin Wig gets
drunk or.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Like that is that what she took? Dramamine?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
She took something right and then so she was like, Hi, yeah,
like that's what I felt like. Yeah, I just feel
like this was such the wrong decision. You probably actually
ruin the day. You ruin the day because you were
not on the planet. You were zombie.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
It was zombie. But you know, there is something called
benign was it called bonine bonanni? Bonini bonine. It's like
it's like dramamine without the loosey goosey.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, so why didn't you take that?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I didn't know about this. I'm like not a like
I'm not a drug girl. Clearly what you don't say,
so I don't really take anything, you know what I mean?
So like, why why then.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Walk me through this? You're a lady who doesn't take anything.
And then you're like, you know what I'm gonna do
not one, but two drama meine at Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Cause Saturday I felt so awful. At the end of
the day, I was like I cannot do this today.
Two days yeah, I was like, I cannot do this
another day without taking something. Okay, So we get this
at the Disneyland gift shop. They're like, this will be
great for the rides. Pop it in Sunday morning. I
went on like the in Credit coaster two times in
a row, and I was like, oh, I'm feeling great,
let me pop another one.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Like two hours later, I was down down.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Do you know that I've never been on a roller
coaster in.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Your whole life? Never. You fascinate me so much.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm not interested in a thrill, not at all.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Why I'm just.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Not interested in it. I don't like a roller coaster.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
So how did you go to Disneyland?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I go to Disneyland, the happiest place on earth.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's so happy.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
The big Pickle the Trurou. I mean, there's so many
delicious fun things to do at Disneyland. Rise the Rise
of the Resistance, I love the shooting game, the to
At Story shooting game when you shoot the bank buzz
like your buzz. So much to do And for my
thirt never been on a ride. No, the only ride
I've been on. It was my thirtieth birthday and I

(26:22):
ended up at Disneyland with John Stamos, who's like the
biggest Disneyland person of all time, and we got VIP
John Stamos Disneyland and my friend that I was there with,
she was like, let's go on Space Mountain. And I
was like, oh okay. And I was like, but I
don't do roller coasters, so I'll wait it out. She's like, no, no, no,
you just go on this trolley and it takes you

(26:44):
through the mountain and you just see mountain things on
the screens. And I was like, oh, okay, Well I'll
like that because like, I can do a ride, but
not a roller coaster. Anyway, I got on Space Mountain.
It's not a ride where you ride it thing and
look at things. It's a roller coaster. So that's the
only roller coaster I've ever been on screamed so loud.
I hate every minute of it, and I still have
dreams about it. And then I went on TikTok and

(27:04):
watched Space Mountain with the lights on, which is terrifying.
I've never seen light picture arm up this much. The
bottom of the last part is right. You could get
decapitated at any second. It is so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Let me tell you. I went on Today's Mountain twice
on Saturday. Did you get the picture? Yeah? I got
the picture. I didn't need it, honestly, you were probably
It's very very bad, you know what. I'm proud of you, though,
Wait a step mom at up? Thank you? You know,
you know, just just doing the most, just really do it.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I feel like we need a new solution. I would
love bonini.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm bo n nanny, nanny, Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I just think also, that would not be the thing
that I did with my step kids. I would be like,
why don't we go to park and look at the clouds?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
We do that. We go to the park with our
dog and like play around with her. But this was
like a fun, you know, like an experience. It was
an experience it was an an experience. I had a
lot of fun. I did you, Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Like, do you remember any of it?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, well Saturday, I remember all of Saturday.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And did you have to lay down? Did you pass
out a little bit?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Uh no, But I'm like surprised on Sunday that I
made it to the car.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
What do you think doctor Gray would think of this?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
She would have She would have hit me with two
ccs of EPI for sure. Speaking of CC's, there's the
most content we've had on the show in the past
six months. That's true. Yeah, okay, speaking of CC's and Meredith.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Gray, you auditioned for Miami Swum Week.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
No, you got a hysterectomy. Oh yes, Oh my god,
what a turn A lot of time. No, but I
want to talk about it because I obviously follow you
and I don't really know the whole story of kind
of like why you did it?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, but like just for fun it was super easy? No,
But like what was it that like rang the alarm bells?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So I had been sort of faking it till I
made it for like a decade. I've been feeling really
awful and like when I would see you or.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I'd see I thought that was your hashimotos.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Definitely, it's all a wicked uh. Like I'm like a
what they call it when they knit, and it's a blanket,
it's all. It's not a blanket, tapestry, it's a tapestry, tapestry, mosaic.
It's a mosaic, it's a tapestry. I think all of
it is connected because and I think hashimotos and thyroid

(29:24):
stuff was just the easiest to diagnose because a bunch
of years ago, I was losing hair and I was
losing sight, and I had these rashes and we've talked
about this a lot. And then I went and they
were like, well, your blood seems kind of normal, but
we're going to deep test deeper and deeper, and then
ended up saying hashimotos. And I went on thyroid medicine.
And then every time I felt sort of tired and

(29:45):
horrible after that, I was like, oh, my thyroid must
be off, and I would go get it tested and
they're like, your thyroid's not off. You just need to sleep,
eat better, you know, take care, take care of meditate, right,
do you eat some sea moss gel? You know?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, And it just started getting really bad. About two
and a half years ago, I ended up. I was
really ill. I felt so bad. I went to the
doctor and he was like, you have chronic fatigue syndrome
and you're just going to feel like this forever.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
And I was like, oh wow, forever. Crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I was sleeping sixteen hours a day like I was
the worst that I had ever been. Then my homeopathic
doctor was like, well, you have mono and I was like, oh,
adult mono. Well that's like, who have I been kissing.
I've been married for over a decade. I'm like, this
is so wild. But I tested positive for mono. So
I took some time off work. I laid in bed
for three weeks. Eventually kind of started feeling better, but

(30:36):
not really. And then for two years I just never
felt right, and so I was working with four different doctors.
I had my homeopathic doctor, I had my guyano, I
had my surgeon, and I had an oncologist because my blood.
What they ended up figuring out over those two years
was that I have this blood condition called micro psyclic anemia,

(30:57):
which is a special anemia that does not you can't
eat a steak, you can't well. I'm also allergic to bovine,
which is steak. So any of the pills, any of
the iron supplements and stuff just made me so sick.
And so basically my blood cells are really small and
they don't grab on to the healthy blood the way
that they should. So a lot of that probably if

(31:19):
I had known that ten years ago, like would have
maybe changed the diagnosis for everything, you know what I mean, Like,
I just think it's all connected at the root of
like how did you.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Not figure this out? What I'm saying is like what
was the missing like peace?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
So when you normally go get a CDC CBC CDC panel,
there's like maybe twelve to seventeen blood tests on that,
and that's like what we get at our GINO appointment
every year, what the doctor's the end. The blood work
that ended up doing when I got desperate was sixty
pages long.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I mean, it was so intense.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
There was like, you know, an entire page full of anemia, ferretin, hemoglobin,
the you know. So my fareton was like five and
it's supposed to be over two hundred. So that was
when they put the red flag on. And then I
started getting blood infusions and I did a bunch of them,
and it took and I felt better, and then I

(32:12):
six months later they went and it had dropped back
down to eight. So they were like, your body will
just not hold this. And so they're like, well, what
else is could this be causing this? I know it's
very confusing, but essentially it took a long time of
them giving me stuff and then it going out of
my body, giving me stuff and going out of my
body for them to realize that this specific type of
anemia was not like normally people that have really bad anemia,

(32:33):
they go get blood infusions and then they're good forever,
you know what I mean. So then the conversation was like, well,
you're losing so much blood because your period. My pear's
so heavy because I was in perimenopause, and basically we're
pumping you with this infusion of iron every month and
then you're losing it all and it's this vicious cycle.

(32:55):
So that's where the hysterectomy came in. They made the decision.
All my doctors got together and they made decision that
they wanted to stop my period, and the options were
birth control, which I go absolutely nuts on birth control,
pogesterone pills, which I tried, and I got horrific, like
really bad cystic acne and like anything hormones like really
just messes me up. I do not feel well, and

(33:17):
I was like, I can't imagine being on this for
the rest of my life. And IUD my pelvis was
tilted wrong. I couldn't get an IUD. There's a surgery
called ablasion where they put essentially like an umbrella in
your vage and then they burn off the inner lining
of your uterus so you never get your period again,
but it can come back. But my uterus was heart shaped,

(33:40):
which is like very sweet, but I have like a
septum in the middle of it, so that the umbrella
doesn't work. So hysterectomy was the option. Holy So that's
when I decided to have the hysterectomy. I had it
about eight weeks after they made that decision, and then
I had the hysterectomy and then I've gone I've had
four more blood and fusions and now I'm six and

(34:01):
a half weeks postop. Do you feel good, Well, I've
had two non periods, which is a dream come true.
Let me just tell you, Oh my god, it's so amazing.
To not get your period, like I still get all
because I get my ovaries, so I still have all
the symptoms, like I got kind of hungry and my
boobs were s like all that stuff. But like then
to not have the like massacre of all of it

(34:26):
was just really beautiful. But yeah, so I'm you know,
I feel good. I'm starting to really wake up. I'm
very I'm starting to be really sharp, which is amazing.
Starting to feel better for sure. I mean I was
at a point t where, like I was at E News,
I was memorizing the what was on the teleprompter.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You couldn't see it.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I couldn't see it. My eyes were so blurry.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
That is so crazy. Yeah, honestly, like when you were,

(35:10):
like you were explaining this stuff to me about the
chronic fatigue, and I'm like, I don't see it in you,
Like I just never saw that in you. I see
hyper like strung out on you know what I mean,
like always on it, And I never saw any sort
of like I don't want to call it weakness because
it's not a weakness, but like any sort of fatigue
or tired or like, I never saw it on you.

(35:31):
So I don't know when I.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Was really good at hiding it. I mean, I think
Derek's here, my assistant. He saw a little bit before
my surgery, where like I would just be like sleeping
on my bench in the kitchen, Like when we had
ten minutes, I would just lay down for ten minutes
because I just could not walk, breathe. But I just
learned to like hop myself off on diet, coke and caffeine.
Be a show pony, do the show. When it was

(35:53):
time to do a live show that you are our
guest at, or a podcast or be on TV or
host the thing, and I would completely crash. Like my husband,
bless his heart, like has seen like literally a dead
weight of a human has been married to one for
like a very long time. Where Like I there were
many days where he would get up and go to

(36:14):
work at eight thirty and I go in at like ten,
so I would be in bed when he left, and
then he would come home at six.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Thirty and I would already be back in bed.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, And like just I never went to a birthday party,
Like I made this whole thing about my personality, Like
I was like, oh, I'm antisocial, and I like I
just love work and so like, I don't want to
go to your event. I never went to the events.
I never went to the book launches, I never went
to the birthday parties, I never went on the girls' trips.
Like I just never went anywhere. I went to work

(36:44):
and I went home to bed.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah that's all you could do. Yeah, that is so crazy.
So do you feel like now you're on the other
side of it, do you feel like?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I definitely feel I mean the minute that my Fareton
level started to go over one hundred, I was like zoop,
Like it was wild to wake up in the morning
and not have to drag not just there's like fatigue,
and then there's there's tiredness, and then there's like mind
numbing fatigue where like I would need to pick up

(37:12):
my phone and walk to another room, and then I
would need to take a break, Like picking up my phone,
putting my slippers on, taking a shower was like exhausting.
I just like wouldn't wash my hair because I was like,
I'm just not going to shower, Like it's just so wild.
So I definitely feel better. But you know, especially to
your listeners and your women listeners, like it is so

(37:33):
important that we fight for our wellness, and we are told,
you know, since we're young girls. I got my period
wise twelve, I'm sure you were somewhere around there.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Like you you're just told that. It's like you've a period.
You're a woman. You're meant to suffer, You're.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Meant to feel bad, and this is just the cost
of being a successful, busy woman. If you want to
have it all, well, what comes with having it all
feeling like garbage all the time?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
And I just we got I don't know, do you
feel like you come, Oh my gosh, I feel like
I used to have like crippling period symptoms, like I
would have like this just crazy PMS and cramps and
like all the things, the debilitating tiredness. And I was like,
it's just your period. It's just like what we get
as women. It's just that time of the month. And

(38:16):
I started to realize, like, that's not like our periods
are not supposed to be that debilitating. That is my
body literally saying something's wrong. He yeah, like step in.
And that's when I started realizing all the Hashimoto stuff,
because I'm like, something is not right. Like I was, like,
I am so exhausted, it's kind of the same thing.
I would come in, I would do my job, but
I I never felt like I was doing my job well,

(38:37):
Like I felt like I was like not like there, yeah,
like my like I was here, present and I was
like giving it my all, but I just said was absent.
And I think that is like what's really crazy too,
because people also and like it's not I don't want
to say it's like I feel like doctors they give
you like they're like, Okay, you can take this pill
or you can do this, but then there's gonna be
side effects with that, and you know what I mean.

(38:58):
It's like all these things and I think that you
do you really have to like fight and take a
proactive approach and like ask many people, Like I'm the
type of person where I just trust, Like I'm like
if I go to a doctor, I trust that you
know what you're talking about and I'm just going to
do the thing that you want me to do. Yeah,
And that this whole process made me like so different,
Like I get multiple opinions on things now, like it's
not just one opinion.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, it's also like you have to be this person
like I would walk I had this yellow file folder
that had every blood and every test and every print
out from each doctor because you go in and they
get fifteen minutes. So like it's very hard to look
at someone and be able to understand the whole picture.
And I think what helped me is that I did
a lot of and helped you as well. Like I
did a lot of the work on my own, Like

(39:39):
I went to this this naturopath guy, and I started
doing IVS and I worked with a nutritionist, and I like,
I really did my part in my wellness. So I
when I got to the doctor and I still felt
bad when they would try to gaslight me with like, oh, well,
are you eating enough protein?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Like I would be like, I got it. My job.
It's like you it's your job. Your job is just
what's making you feel this way. And I'm like, I
have been doing morning radio since I was in college.
I was nineteen years old when I started doing morning radio.
I know what it feels like to not feel like
this right in the same schedule, you know. But it
was always just like the easy answer, Yeah, and you're tired,
you wake up early, like go to bed earlier. I'm like,

(40:22):
I can't possibly go to bed earlier, like I go
to bed at eight thirty, what do you you know?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Like so yeah, so you get gas lit, and it's
it's such a weird thing because these are the experts.
And I'm not saying all doctors are like that. It's
not their fault. It's the way the system is set up, right,
and they're all, especially in America more than anything, they're
all so discombobulated. I mean I had to literally, you know,
schnaggle to get my guy no on the phone with
the surgeon who's going to do my hysterectomy, and on

(40:47):
my phone with my natural pathway even know how to
do that. Those things don't connect. But I literally went
in and they also probably fight, well, I don't know
if they didn't. I didn't seem like they.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Fought for me. But like I was having issues with
my like natural path in my right like normal doctor,
going at it about like why are you doing all
these things? Like you just eat like a normal person,
you know, like it's fine, you can take this pill.
Everybody does it. It's fine, you know, Like it was
this back and forth ping pong.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah. I remember the day my natural path got on
the phone with my GUYO and he sent me a
screenshot after of like that they had been on the
phone for seven minutes together and he sent me the
screenshot and he was like, you are going to be
well and likes he only talks and like, so if
he would look at your blood work and you'd be like,
you are so healthy and we have things we can

(41:32):
work on, but you were like, he only speaks positive.
It's so bizarro and wild anyway, but he was like,
you are going to be well, and it was like,
oh my god, they've talked for seven minutes just about me,
Like that is revolutionary, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
So, But I also think, like I don't think every
natural path like really do your research because some of
them don't know what they're talking about. And I ended
up getting like Mark will remember this, I ended up
getting poisoned from arsenic from like pills that I was
taking from.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
That was a weird one. Yeah, Like my doctor called
me and she was like, is someone trying to poison you? Yeah?
She was just somebody trying to poison you? And I
was like what, Like, I was like, what do you mean?
She was you have so much in your It was
my urine that this is something you're ingesting daily, so
like does somebody have access to maybe your coffee or

(42:21):
like like they literally somebody poison me. That That's where
my mind went. At first, I was like what, like,
who's trying to poison me? Like I was just like
thinking of all the things. And then I was like,
oh my gosh, I'm taking these whack ass supplements from
this like Doctor Lady that I was getting on Amazon
and cut to it was the it was them. So
I just feel like, yeah, you really have to do

(42:42):
your research on these things. Oh my god, because everybody's
a professional and everybody's like that, you know, so it's like,
really do your research because it's not you know, it's
kind of.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
It's it's really hard. And I also think like makes
me emotional think about it, like we give of other women.
We give women no grace like across the like I
think across the entire world, but definitely with health stuff.
It's like you're I you are only allowed like us
sick day. And then if you talk about like oh

(43:15):
I went to this nature path and then they gave
me this and oh my god, it was then you
just they're like Tanya's so crazy with her health stuff right,
Like she's so wild, she's so intense about it, and
you're like, no, like okay, good for you, you know
what I mean, Like I'm definitely not so bananas about it,
and like I have I'm I'm sure people are so
sick of hearing me talk about it, but it's like,

(43:38):
I just feel like my job is to empower people
to go on their like health journeys now, because oh
my god, Like what a difference, you.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Know, yeah, and like what like how sad that you
had to wait this many years to finally feel some
sort of like I.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Could have been, Like can you imagine what I could
have accomplished running for president by now? If you've got
you figured this out ten years ago? And oh my god,
I know, but we'll see. I kind of thought my
whole life was going to be over when I turned forty,
and it's turning out to be better than ever.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
So I feel like maybe it all just starts at forty,
you know, I know, But do you know what I
want to talk about? Because I feel like you're one
of those people that you kind of hit these milestones
in your life in your career, but then you're like,
now what because I feel like to me, like sitting
back looking at you now.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Like you are the host of E News, like that
is like I'm your new Ryan Seacrest.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Correct, but that was your goal like when million years ago,
million years ago, now you have that. Yeah, are you satisfied.
I'm satisfied. Oh isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I think something something with the health stuff and just
getting this dream job and going through getting sort of
let go from my dream job a few years ago
and thinking like, oh my god, it's over. I took
it all for granted. I should have like enjoyed myself more.
And then I had a few years off where we

(44:57):
were just doing Lady Gang. I worked on my music
show super Fan, like I was kind of not in
entertainment news. Coming back to entertainment News, I feel like
I am where I'm supposed to be and I'm very safe,
and I love the people that I'm working with. I
love my EPs, I love Justin Sylvester, Like I'm so
happy there that I can't imagine going to any other show.
And there have been calls where people are like, oh,

(45:19):
would she ever want to do you know, blah blah
blah on this morning show or whatever, and I'm like, no,
like I am perfect where I am.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I absolutely love E News, I love the platform, I
love the fashion. Like I'm just I'm so happy there.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Wow. I honestly like I was expecting to shock now
now I want this Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Like I just, I really am so happy. I think
the next thing is I at some point want to
write a solo book, Like not now, but like ten
years from now. I think I could do a solo
book because I'm just such a book nerd. But I'm
very happy where I am. I'm happy where the Lady
Gang podcast is. I think doing the best shows of

(46:01):
our career after ten years of having a podcast, like
we're we're all still really great friends. We love each other.
I'm healthy, Like the whole reckoning of having this surgery
and like not being able to get out of bed
for three weeks and losing an organ and your like
ability to pro create, like it's all very like metas. Sure,
it's emotional, and it's like I did a lot of

(46:22):
therapy around it, and so I just I'm actually feeling
grateful and I feel very lucky, and I feel very
happy with where I am. And I also know that
if it all goes away tomorrow, like I'm okay to
step back, like I have done it all, and I
feel very happy to be where I am and still hustling,
and I still want to make things happen.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I want things to be amazing.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
But like I'm also a little bit in my friendship
wifing era, which makes me excited, Like I'm taking a
couple I'm taking a week off in a couple of
weeks and I'm going to see my husband's on tour
with one of his clients, and like I'm flying to
Lisbon to spend a week with him, where I would
like never take And I had just had time off
for my surgery, so I would have been so guilt ridden.
I would have never taken time off. I'd have been like,

(47:04):
oh my god, they're going to bring someone young and
sparkling and fabulous, and they're going to like her more
than more like me, and then I'm going to get fired,
Like I would have been so full of fear. And
now I'm like, no, you know what, I survived this surgery.
I have not been a good wife for five years,
Like we haven't had any fun. Let's go celebrate my
health that I made it through.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
That is so craep. I'm so wild, right, it's wild,
it's so webby. I don't know, because I literally expecting
you to be like, well, now that I have this,
I want to do the X, Y and Z because
I feel like that is like I feel like that's
the type of person that you always have been, Like
you always have had big dreams, big goals, grind, grind, grind,
go go go more and more and more.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Listen, did I just send an email off pitching two
TV shows that I had to pitch for last week
that were kind of successful that I would love love
to make sure, but like I'm not. The difference is
is I'm not attached to the outcome where my life
will only have meaning if I have this success if
I never sell an other show.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Okay, my sister told me this quote when I was

(48:24):
going through like my heartbreaking breakup. She said, be open
to the possibility, not attached to the outcome. And that
has been like my heat, my my, Like I say
it in my head all the time because it's like
we're always so attached to the outcome. Yeah, and the
outcome is like it can be, it can be different
things and be just as beautiful every single way, but
you get so attached to it looking a certain way

(48:45):
that the minute it doesn't look like that, you're like disappointed.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, I had this with our and we talked about
this when your book came out. We had I had
this a lot with our Lady Gang podcast books. Our
first book. We were sort of ahead of the curve.
It was really we loved the book book and everything
kind of went right, like, well, actually everything went wrong.
It got it released in COVID, and it was the
whole book tour was canceled, like everything did go wrong.

(49:09):
But because of that, I feel like our community really
wrapped themselves in it and they were like really rooting
for us because like everything got canceled. We didn't get
to do press, like it was like everything. And we
ended up making the New York Times list and that
was like a big dream of mine and I was
so excited about it. And then and then based on
that success, we got another book deal. We wrote the
second book, which I think is better than the first book.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I think it's really well done. I love the illustrations,
like it's called Lady Secrets. I love that book so
much and we had this entire plan, and we did
this whole tour on a bus and it was like
everything lined up, everything went the way it was supposed
to do, and I was like yes, And then the
day that we didn't, we ended up trying to be

(49:49):
the best people on earth. So we bought all the
books from indie booksellers around the country instead of like
buying it from like the big one thing. And so
every city we went to on the tour, we partnered
with this like local bookstore. And then comes the Wednesday
or Tuesday or whatever before you find out if you
make the times, and my publisher's like, well, this is crazy,
Like it says here that you've only sold four thousand books,

(50:09):
and I was like, well that's impossible, because we sold
sixty five hundred tickets and every book came with a ticket,
like we bought our I have the invoice. We bought
these books to give people, you know, plus the books
that we sold online that the numbers are not numbering.
And we started calling the booksellers and they're like, oh, yeah,
well my husband fell and so I'm not going to
be reporting my books till next week. And then this
other bookstore was like, oh, yeah, I think we lost

(50:31):
the paperwork, and like we don't really, and we're like,
so we would. We would have had a better chance
if our book. Anyway, it all fell apart. The books
weren't reported correctly, and I'm on the street in Atlanta
having a diet coke meltdown. Jack had to walk me
to the gas station to get a diet coke because
I was hyperventilating.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I was so upset.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I was so attached to the outcome. It only was
a successful book if I made the New York Times.
Not I put into years of work. Not we got
to tour the country and see thousands of girls. Not
it's my proudest piece of work. Not Jack designed to
cover ourselves. Like I was so attached to out come
that it was meaningless if it didn't get that. If
it didn't get that thing. Meanwhile, Like I'll see it

(51:08):
in a bookstore and someone will post about it and
I'm like, well, that's such a cute bookstore, and look
at this person is Like you have to think about
it being on people's nightstands and the read like there's
just some of the shit that's made up for us
to like subscribe.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
To is so dumb. Yeah, it doesn't matter, you know. No,
I know exactly what you mean, because I had the
exact same reaction. I wasn't like higher ventilating with like
a die Coke meltdown. But I remember we were in
New York finishing up press and like finding out that
we didn't get it, and like my heart broke a
little bit, and I was like, but that and our
book in particular was like the Sunshine Mind and it

(51:40):
was all about positive, positive, and like here I was
crying because our book didn't make the New York Times
of a cellar. Mind you. We had just met like
a mother and a daughter that had bought the book,
and they were like, gonna do it like a devotional
every day, like together and like bond together over the book.
And I'm like, that's why we did it.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Or I'm in airports and I see your book in
the airport's right, I still see it.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I still see it right, right, So they wouldn't They
didn't want us, you know, So it's a sunshine on
their bookshelf. Yeah, no, it's like and then and then
I like really quickly bounced out of it. But I
do I feel like I was and then I and
then I kind of do the whole like I could
have done this. I could have pushed a little harder.
I could have done this. I could have like I

(52:23):
go through the what it could have, should have and
then I'm like, it is what it is, what it is.
I learned it was an experience. Yeah, I'll try harder
next time.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Would do You know what's really crazy And let me
just say this is that I did not try to
host E news. That's what's crazy about And I think
that's a big part of this journey of me being
more relaxed.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
You didn't want to. I had.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
It's not that I didn't want to, but I had
left entertainment tonight and kind of in a blaze of
glory and had these years off and I was like,
I'm never going back to entertainment news. I did not
have an agent. I did not have like I basically
was like, I'm done with TV. I'm just going to
be a podcaster and I'm gonna whatever read books with
my dog.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
And I got a call.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
We were on our book tour for Lady Gang. I
got a call from John Redman, who's my EP, and
he was like, Hey, I really want you to come
and talk to me about doing E News And I
was like, well, I'm on my book tour. I'm not
home for another month, but I'll call you then. Like
I didn't even think cause it was just like it
was such a casual email and I thought I thought
it was like I thought it was just a zoom

(53:20):
to just be like hey, like would you ever I
don't know, I pushed it off.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I don't even know why.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I was so into the New York Times at the time,
laser focus, right, So then I get on the zoom
with them like a month later and they're like, yeah,
well we're starting E news next month, and like we
have only one person that we want to be the
chief correspondent and it's you. I didn't there was no audition,
there was no like, oh I heard they're hiring, can.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
You get me in agent? Like all this time. It
was literally like they wanted me.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
They waited for four weeks, then they offered me the
job on the spot on the zoom and then I
like literally was like okay, well I don't have an agent,
so I'll just send me the deal. Like it was
so wild. And then and then when Adrian left she
was hosting E News originally and I was chief correspondent
when Adrian left. She left in like January of last year.
She hasn't been there for a long time. And they

(54:04):
they were testing people and they were bringing people in
and I was just I did not talk. I didn't
go to John or John and was like, hey, am
I going to be the new host? Everyone's at People
were asking me at some point, but like, I never
I never had an agent call over, Like I didn't
do any of them. I didn't try. And literally one
day I was at home with my brother and I
was in Canada and I got it. They were like, hey,

(54:26):
can you FaceTime real quick? And I was like sure,
and I pick up the FaceTime. They're like, you're the
new host of E News and I was like what,
Like I didn't even try, and so it's.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Like and then I got the job. Like that is
so so crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
My point being is that like I have been that
person that has pushed so hard, has begged, has led
with desperation my entire career, Like pick I am the
pick me girl of this century, Like pick me, want me,
love me? Here's my resume, here's the thing I'm desperate
for your okayness. I'm desperate for outer recognition. And something

(55:00):
happened in the last little while where I just stopped
being that person and more good stuff has come my
way than And you know, you were doing it when
I wasn't pushing so hard, which is wild. So I
think that's maybe why I'm more relaxed, because I'm just like, well,
you know what, what will find me will find me
and my mantra to the universe, which I know you'll love.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Is this or something better?

Speaker 1 (55:24):
So when I hear something like I was supposed to
be on the new season of Hacks, I got on
put on hold to play myself for Hacks like a
reporter on the red carpet.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I was so excited.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I was like, yes, I'm gonna be on Hacks because
I love Hacks. And then I never got called when
the shoot date came and went. And then Mark malcoln,
our friend who works at Variety, and Rachel Lindsay, who
was at Extra at the time. I saw them that
they got it. Everyone's like oh, And I was like,
oh my god, that's amazing. But like normal me would
have like made it like an entire presentation and sent
to the casting people have been like, this is my

(55:52):
love of hacks, this is my audition, this is like,
you know, what's meant for me is me and like
this or something greater, Like I didn't get this thing
that I kind of wanted and I thought would be cool,
but I know something else will happened, you know. Justin
and I got put on hold for like some movie
where we're like playing ourselves on E news, and then
they ended up only taking Justin and I was like, okay,

(56:12):
this or something better, Like it would be so cool
to be in a movie as myself, but like, all right,
like it'll be something else. I know this. I'm so chill,
I'm so casual, so this brings me too.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
I'm not leaving here.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I know our times probably up, but like, I'm not
leaving here without talking about Miami Swim Week because I'm
a big Miami Swim Week fan. You are launched the
career of Chrissy Degan. I'm sorry what I watch it
every year? You do? I love a swimsuit. I have
yet to find one that looks fantastic on me, and
I don't know why. I think because I like kind
of love pageants that my algorithm is always showing me

(56:46):
Miami swim weeks. Some of the Bachelor girls do the
modeling and stuff. So when I saw on your Instagram
that you were auditioning, I voted on the swimsuit you
wore the yellow, I think, right.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I ended up I sent two actually right, I ended
up sending one in the white and one in the
black and white. Okay, not the black and white is good? Yeah,
with the flowers. Yeah, with the flowers. Oh yeah, it's
very Taylor Swift, you said, right, Yeah, it felt like
tortured port yea, yeah, tortured poets apartment. And then the
other one felt like bridal.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
And it was giving me like the energy that I
think I needed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
And so when will you hear?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I don't know, but that's one of those things where
they they came to me and they were like, hey,
because there's a lot of like female empowerment, yeah, events
that go on during the swim week, and they're like,
you invited to some of these parties and there's also
interest in you walking in some for the some of
the brands, and I was like, no, like I'm not
a swimsuit model or like I just have to I

(57:37):
was like I kind of just shut it down and
then finish. We're finishing our call. And I was like,
you know what, like what is more modern woman energy
than doing something that's like so outside of my comfort
zone and like never I would never do. So I
was like, you know what, I'm going to do it.
All I needed to send in was a thirty second
audition thing like I was like, I can do this.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Did you put a shoe on?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yes? If the shoes on?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
What shoe put it?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
I put on a clear like clear heels. Oh yeah,
really elongated. And what's really funny is so my fiance
was like I want to help you, like I'll shoot
it whatever you need because it was like a quick
it was like kind of a twenty four hour turnaround,
and so I was like, I'm gonna do all the
things that I need to get my hair done and
I get spray tam like and I was like you
know what, No, I'm just gonna be me and I'm
just gonna like do it. He ended up getting like

(58:22):
on a bunch of clothes like I have all these calls.
He was like, I can cut it short if you
really need me, And I was like, you know what
I actually I found like you know, like every garage
door has like that little handle that you like lifted
up with even though it's electric. They had that one
that you can do it manually. I end up putting
the my phone like right on it. I don't know
what the angle, but the angle make me look like
I was a seven foot two who needs a tripod.

(58:44):
It was like so makeshift and I like literally gave
it like everything in me and I sent it and
I was like if they want, if they want me, amazing,
how fun? And if they don't, no sweat, no sweat,
literally no sweat.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
But what a Like I was like, this is a
wild right turn, Like this is a wild this is
a wild turn for this girl.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
It was a wild turn. Love it? Yeah, I think
it could be amazing. I think so too. And it
was really funny because I watched some old like swim
Weeks Swim Weeks to kind of like what is it.
I'm like, I can't just walk like a you know,
like I give it. And it was so funny because
you know they do this thing where like they raise
their hands up and they kind of do this like
they like give it me, give it to me. I
was doing that, Yeah, you were. They were like not

(59:27):
the like, uh, asking for fan engagement when there's like
no fans. You're like in the garage and plants around me.
I'm like, yeah, give it to me, and I'm like
singing Serena Carpenter's Espresso and just like totally having the
time of my life. And it's Tedios bikini with the
color milk on my legs, Like literally I could not
be more pale.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
But they know they can sassafrass you you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah, that's what I was like. You know, it's like
when you.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Think about the supermodels and they're always like, here's my
digies and it's just them in a tank top with
no makeup on and like maybe some acne, and you're like, oh,
because they know they can turn that into a Victoria's Secret.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Supermodel girl, right, you know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Did you know they're bringing back the show? No, Victory's
Secret Show?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I thought it was like done done, No, they're bringing
it back branding. I guess I don't know what that means.
Maybe you're walking in it, maybe it was a secret
audition maybe yeah, and energy right there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, but it was really it was such a weird
twenty four hours because I was like, really shot it
down so fast, and then I was kind of like
excited about it. Yeah, because it's like so out of
my comfort zone. Even the thought of being on a
Miami swimming runway in a bikini, yeah makes me want
to vomit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Great. Definitely need a beta blocker for that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yes, yeah, that's when you need to beata well not
a drama mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Not a drama, mean a beta blocker.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I think it would be very inspiring and very inspiring
to all your girls and all your people that follow you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I mean, you're hot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I remember the first time, you know, the first time
I met her, I was so jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I met you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
I actually just watched you walk by me. I was
it was an iHeart event, probably a decade ago. Well,
you wore a green suit and you had a green
smoky eye.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah. I remember a jingle ball.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
It was a jingle ball and I was there interviewing
ed Chern. Yeah, and I remember you walked in the
hallway and my first thought, I was a different era
of my life. My first thought was like, who the
is that girl? And then it was like, who does
she think she is? Because you were like so confident
and so like the prettiest person I'd ever seen. And

(01:01:47):
then instantly it went into that thing where I was like,
oh my god, I'm not good enough. Oh my god,
my outfit's not good and like it was. It was
like one of those moments where I was like, I
was very It wasn't jealousy, but I was like, I'm
not enough. What am I doing here? Like hause I
think I worked on The Insider at the time. Yeah,
And then I remember I just remembered you being so beautiful.
I didn't know who you were, and then years later
I met you and you were so lovely and so

(01:02:11):
inspiring and had so much soul that that was one
of my big Hollywood lessons and not judging a book
by its cover because you were so beautiful. It was
very intimidating for me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
That is so crazy. I've never had anybody tell me that.
I like, I mean, sounds so weird, like that I'm
beautiful really, I mean obviously like my fiance and like
my parents, but like that's kind.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Of You were like so stunning and I was like,
and you were so well put together. Like it was like,
you know, because jingle balls, you're like rosters, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Like the whole it was like a tang.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
It's very funny because I remember the first time I
ever was a guest on The Lady Gang, Beca was like,
you're Becca Beca. Tobin was like, yeah, it's really weird.
Kilty doesn't really like you know, other girls, but she
really likes you. And I was like, yeah, I really
liked you, and I like you, I said another girls
at the time, I think you were, like I not

(01:02:59):
like other people. You were you were not so well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It wasn't that I didn't like other girls. It was
that I was being tormented at my job where they
would bring in every week, Yes or else to test
in front of me, and they'd have me sit on
stage in a chair and be like, oh, we just
have a couple of screen tests to do before your part,
and so they would walk like other young keelties in
front of me and have them screen test, and then
they would leave, and then I would go on and do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
The show like obviously very traumatized.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
It was so traumatizing. So I was at a point
where I was just like, oh my god, I got
hold on with both hands. Yeah, yeah, I mean that
was really bad. It was really ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
So I think that was just nice in the right headspace.
But also, why would you be if that's kind of
what you're it was? It was definitely weird. It was
like a like a I don't know why they did that.
That was me and guys seeing wherever you were. That
was terrible. The thing is that is the norm, though,
Like that is very normal in this industry, and I
feel like but but not to that degree. Like I

(01:03:55):
think subconsciously everybody feels that way, you know, I mean
like you're replaceable, you're this that you're small, you can
be replaced any second, but you're a dime a dozen. Yeah,
I think everybody's kind of brainwashed to feel that. But
like to have people brought in an audition in front
of you and do that, it's like a whole other level.
So I feel like I probably would have been the
same way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
You know. What's cool though, and this is I might
sound like an asshole, so please let me know if
I do scrubbers. But I think what's beautiful about aging
and where I'm at in my life now is that
I actually know in my heart of hearts that you
can't replace me, Like I felt that way for so long,
that like, oh there's another girl and she's going to

(01:04:35):
get the thing, and she's gonna I know now my
worth and I know that I am incredible at what
I do. And when you hire kelthy Frickin'knight to host
your event, your thing, your charity, your television show, your
red carpet, that I have the expertise to do it

(01:04:56):
in a way that not many people can do. And
I know, I know that you're getting an expert and
that is a beautiful thing because you have to live
it to get to that point where you really believe
in yourself and you I can drink my own kool
aid because I know that my kool aid is sweet,
you know. But then you're also at a point.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Where what age do you think that was? Like when
did you start to It was like forties, it was
like that's recent. Yeah, I've been like I don't in
the past few years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Like I think even since I started at E Like
I just watched I watched the way publicists react to
me that I have such long relationships. It's the same
thing when you have someone walk in like a dua
lipa that you've known their entire career. You have the
blessing of not being the new girl in the block.
They know what they're going to get when you sit
down and interview them. Like, it's such a beautiful, wonderful thing.

(01:05:46):
I'm not friends with these people, but I know that
when they need to, when I need to deliver, I'm
going to deliver big, you know what I mean. I
know that I'm going to have one of the best
interviews on the carpet. I know that I can kill
that live moment and give them something that they're not
getting anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Like, I just know that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
And so you stop having to be in competition with
everyone because I truly am Like, if I don't get it,
it has nothing to do with if I'm good enough, right,
because I know in my heart I'm good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Right, I don't know's It's a really beautiful thing. It's
a huge shift because I feel like we always, especially
as women, we internalize so much. It's always I think
being good enough is like the biggest thing that we
all deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Right, It's like, oh my god, oh my god. I mean,
I feel that honestly, I don't feel that in my
TV world. I feel that in podcasting sometimes, Like I
still I watch like the new person come in with
their new podcasts and it's like the everything everyone's talking
about and whatever, and You're like, what about me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I'm still making shows every Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
For ten years, you know, And so there's times where
like I still have to check myself when I, you know,
see that. But then at the same time, what a
beautiful thing to have a community of listeners that's been
with you for over a decade. And I'm like, it's
okay to not be the young, hot thing on the block.
The only time I got really mad is when I
saw them give like SmartLess like sixty million dollars at

(01:07:04):
Netflix or whatever, and I was like, I have a
trio of white people that would be incredible on the
Netflix show, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
But I was like, sixty million dollars. I could crazy.
What would I do with that money? Howly, No, I'd
have ten weddings. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
You would definitely would get a PJ and you'd have
everyone in Italy, Italy and then Amsterdam and then where.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I wanted to be a tour It'd be like a
giant tour.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I'd be like the Rihanna tour when she went to
seven countries and like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I would yeah, Wow, Well is there any okay? I
feel like I don't even want to ask you this
because you're like so good in your in the headspace
that you're in. But like, where do you see kilty nine?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
In ten years, I'm gonna not be living in la
on my home where I don't know. I think I
did look at a condo and Cabo maybe in Florida.
I want to live by the beach. I'd like, I
want a big compound that my family, my brother can
live like not near like not with me, but near me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
And I think I'll be writing and I think i'll
beca and I have this idea that I'll be a
success coach. I just want to like uh because I
can look at someone's life and I'm like, you need
to do I had this a girl the other day
write me and she's like, hey, I heard E news
is looking for correspondence, Like can I send my reel?
And I was or can you connect me? And I
was like, yeah, send me a reel. Let me take
a look. And I looked at and I was like, well,

(01:08:25):
you got to fix this. This is this like they're
gonna they're gonna, they're not gonna like this part. And
you interviewed Madonna and it's way at the end. You
got to put that first, you know, Like I did
it right. So Beck always makes fun of me. She's like,
so I think I'll be a success coach, like I'll
consult or, I'll help people with their careers and I'll
just do Like but I think in ten years i'll
be fifty two years old, so I'm out. I've been

(01:08:45):
saving my money since I was like twenty, So I'm like,
I'm going to retire early and I'm just gonna do
other things. I'm gonna do all the things I didn't
do in my twenties and thirties because I was hustling
so hard I had no balance. I'm going to balance.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
But the opposite way, I think, Wow, yeah, healthy night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I'm not going to Ryan Seacrest it, you know what
I mean, Like I keep going, doesn't Ryan Seacrest.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Have enough money?

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Like he loves it still? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yeah, see I don't. I don't know if I'll love
it that much. Like I think I'm gonna want time off. Yeah, Like,
wouldn't it be nice to be like, oh, like all
my friends, Like some of my friends are like, oh,
we're going to Abiza for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
In the summer, you should come.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
And I was like, I can't get to a visa
for a Friday Saturday and then be back on Sunday
night in order to do my bullet journaling and my
yogut and my face mask and plung my.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Browse for Moriday morning. You know, that's the era I
have been in. And yeah, it's not time, so no,
be like I'm gonna see you in Abiza. I'm gonna
see you in a bitha on the end of that,
fly on over to Majorca later exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And I'm like, I'm so obsessed with my husband, Like
I'm so excited for you to get married because it
really is like the best thing on the planet. And
we've been married over ten years and like, I just
he's still like my favorite person and I'm just so
excited to spend time with him and Chris Night. Yeah,
he's a special guy, so special guy. I'm I'm just
excited about that too. So maybe I'll walk in Miami swimwake.
I don't know I can put in a good word.

(01:10:05):
I'll look at I'll give you some notes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Well the fingers crossed, I haven't heard this right at
the top, yeah, yeah, at the time, the audience engagement
is key. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
And a prop I learned, like a prop? What prop?
Did you? I had a cowboy hat with one of them.
Oh that's cute. I threw it on at the end. No, yeah,
I gave it a little wink. Well, you can you
post these audition videos? And I think I'm gonna have to.
I think I'm gonna have to. We talked about it. Yeah.
It was just so funny. It was like very funny.
It was a very and I feel like I needed
this right now, just like in my life. Like I

(01:10:35):
felt like I was very what's the word spirally, not
spirally but groundhog day, oh complacent. Yeah, Like I was
just kind of like doing the thing and like, Okay,
here's the sun. Then that goes down and you do
the same thing, and like this really shook me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
I was like, oh, oh, I love it. Yeah, can't
tell you one last thing. Did you watch the idea
of You yet?

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I wish August Moon was a real band, uh are
they not? No, it's an actor and it's all dancing
close galaxy. Yeah, but he's really singing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah, but I think they're gonna start like working the
song they are because it's like doing so well because
I know the name of it. But the ones they
sing at Martin guy solvn wrote all of it. Yeah,
it's like Katy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Perry Solvent Solvent Solven Solvin so SolV Yeah, he love
these songs. I wish it was a real band.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Yeah, but I think they're gonna sart like it's gonna
like start being played.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
But they are not really singing it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
The other guys right, No, I don't even know who
the other guys are dancers right, all right? But Nicholas is,
isn't he? That's what I heard. He's very cute. I
really can't start thinking about that movie. Did you see
that they were listening to his FM in the car
and halfways listening? Yeah? Did you notice that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
I did, But it wasn't your show, so I turned
it and it went out of my brain right away
because it was like a song.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
It was like, yeah, yeah, that's exciting. It was very exciting.
And then they also showed ninety eight seven. I was like, wow,
this person loves my heart. Oh anyway, Kelty Knight, thank
you so much for scrubbing in. Is there anything that
you want to keep us updated on with the Lady Gang.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I would just love for you to subscribe and listen
to Lady Gang. I lot. I think our scrubbers and
the Lady Gang Scrubbing In collection is we could have
a group Facebook at this point. Yeah, it's the same.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Ladies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
If you maybe you've been scrubbing lately you haven't ganged,
come gang and we'll send some gangs to scrub you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Thank you so much. And when is this announcement happening?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
This like, oh, we're announcing tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
That we're doing I'll just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
We're announcing a tour tomorrow. We're going to go on
tour starting in August. Yeah, Jack, don't get mad at me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Sorry, Beck and Jack, I love you, but I'm so
excited for your tour. It's going to be intimate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
It's it's it's called the you never forget your first
tour And because we are a lot of people's first podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
So and it's very intimate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
We're just going to go back and see our ogs
and it's gonna be awesome. So how many cities right now?
We have what we're announcing eight and we have more
to come.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
That's so many. Yeah, oh my god, we're really excited.
That is so great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Well, and I get to go to Boston where Justin Mills,
my high school boyfriend, lives with his wife and his children,
and I love them together and they're very special. I'm
not in love with them anymore, but every time I
go to Boston, I think about how Cuto was in
high school and I had a cute boyfriend and I
could say they came last time and I totally made
fun of him and she was like into it and
it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
So it's a real highlight for me. I love you
so much. I really appreciate you growing into Because Becca
Tilly will be back never week. Thursday, we do have
an ask Bonya episode. But I really just I love you.
I've loved you from the minute that we met, and
you were always I felt every step of my career

(01:13:44):
like you were there cheering me on and being that
like invisible cheerleader. When I didn't see you, like I
always felt like you were saying nice things about me
behind my back. Sure I am. And it was just
it's a You're a breath of fresh air, and I
love you and I always just want the best things
for you. So and and also you were always there
like when I need like meta cool advice, Like I
just feel like you're kind of my go to gal.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
That could be your tagline for your new business, go
to gal, go to gal, Yeah, helping you, helping you
do your life. Yeah, let me do your life because
I can't do mine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah, something like that. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I've really had a great time. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Thank you. Bye bye. Scrubbing out

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