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January 15, 2019 72 mins

One of the shows we’re super obsessed with is Dirty John on Bravo, and this week is huge because one of the stars is Scrubbing In with us! We’re talking to Jean Smart, who plays Debra Newell’s mom Arlane, and she gives us an inside look into this deeply emotional role.  

And Justin Sylvester from Daily Pop on E! is in the O.R. as a guest resident this week! He’s got some crazy stories, and tells us all about how he turned down an interview with an A-lister to talk to Debra from Dirty John! 

Then it’s time to fangirl, because Jeanine Mason from Gray’s Anatomy is here! She told us that the cast knows about the podcast and we are freaking out. She lets us in on which cast member was her favorite to make out with, and she shared a secret from the set that is going to blow people’s minds. On top of all that, we hear about her new show “Roswell, New Mexico”. Plus, we hang out with Miss America 2019 Nia Franklin who is not only gorgeous, but she’s also a musician and composer!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Itania, You're ready, ready scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and
Tanya rad and I Heart Radio and People's Choice Award
winning podcast. Well, Hello, Hi, everybody, Happy Tuesday. It's a
wonderful Tuesday, and I'm happy to be here. Uh. Mark

(00:20):
is here, Eastern is here. Becca is not here this week,
but she will be back in full force next week.
She's doing some exciting things that hopefully she can talk
to us about soon. Great, So we have a jam
packed show for you today. Um, just in a well,
I'm going to talk to Jean Smart, who is in

(00:40):
Dirty John. She plays um, the mom of Connie Britton
in the show. A legend, she's a major, So we're
gonna talk to her right right out of the gate. Um.
And then Justin Sylvester from Ease Daily Pop is going
to come in and guest co host with me. Okay,
so we're really excited to have him. He's also a legend.
He's also a legend in his own right. Yes. And

(01:03):
then we have Janine Mason coming on. We know her
from I Know we know her from Grey's Anatomy. Um.
She is also in Roswell, New Mexico with a pretty
stacked cast By the way, I need to talk to
her about that she were talking about. You said to Ears,
I don't think it's disrespectful doing my research on her,

(01:24):
and uh, I know her from Gray's and so I
was like, but that's not what she's coming He said, Hey,
I checked out Smallville, Mexico. And I said, what are
you talking. Do you means well New Mexico? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yea,
that's what I mean. So, um, we have her coming in.
I need to ask her how de Luca is as
a kisser. Good question, good question, right, And then, um, last,

(01:48):
not least, we have Miss America Nia Franklin joining us
as well. Yeah. Like pretty stacked, guys. I don't really
not a lot of catching up to do um with me.
Oh and tiam you was engaged, so we'll talk about that.
Oh I'm sorry, Yeah, okay, I'm okay. I wrote a
little song, got it loud. I'm wearing all black today.
But you know it's fine. Put him on my vision

(02:10):
board and I think my husband will be like Tim
Tebow it some other way. It's not always a literal
as you would think. Okay, So for those of you
who maybe haven't listened to the podcast Dirty John or
seen the show Dirty John. I'm gonna give you a
quick clip notes before Jeane Smart calls in. Um. It's
based on the story of a woman, Deborah Newell, and

(02:32):
she meets this man um on like a dating site
and she's completely charmed by him. Things move really quickly,
She's blinded by love. He turns out to be a
total psychopath. And the story is like really incredible, and
I think the reason why people are resonating so much
with it is a this is a true story. This
actually happened in Newport Beach, California, which is literally an

(02:52):
hour and a half away from our studio here, and
be uh it is real life, Like we're in the
dating world and we're dating these guys that really you know,
I know, I've been there where you're completely charmed and
then all of a sudden something you find something out
and it's a little bit jarring. So, UM, I'm really

(03:13):
excited to have Jean Smart on the podcast right now
with us. Jean are you there? Ye, yes, I can
hear you. Yeah, welcome. Thank you so much for calling.
This is like really huge, You're so major. This is
really exciting. Um. Okay, so I um, I kind of
set it up a little bit about Dirty John for

(03:34):
those people who don't, you know, haven't watched the show,
or maybe haven't heard about the podcast, so everybody knows
what's going on. But you play Connie Britten's mom and
you actually like Dirty John in the beginning, you did you? Okay?
I think I think that's so jarring about this show

(03:55):
and the podcast is that it's a real life, like
this actually happened in real life. Did you get to
meet the character that you play in the in the show? No,
I don't think that she wanted to be a part
of it, and I did not pursue that. I know
that Connie met with Deborah Mill her character, and I

(04:16):
think one of the daughters also they met, uh um.
But I did listen to a lot of interviews of
her line and so I was able to kind of
listen to her side of the story and also listen to,
you know, her her voice and her quality of speaking,
and follows photos of her and things like that. Yeah,

(04:37):
it is, you know, it's I think because it's not
a story that is necessarily new unfortunately, you know, story
of a charming, good looking psycho hathic con man for
but there's something about this one that just struck a
nerve with people. Was from like that woman in that
family meeting up with that particular god was from like

(04:58):
a perfect storm and for variety reason, and uh, the
standing is still shocking and surprising, right right, yeah, even
for people listen to the podcast, they're still now. And
I think the thing that like, and I know, I'm

(05:18):
you're married and you've been married for a long time now, yes,
well okay, first of all, congratulations on that. That is
like unheard of, But like I think the thing that's
so scary is for people that are dating. Like I know,
I've been in this situation where you're dating somebody and
you're completely charmed by them and then all of a sudden,
it just like it just clicks, and like you know

(05:41):
how you know, Connie Britton goes back to him and
it's like, how how can people? Do you think there
are warning signs that you can pick up on? Or
like I think that that's what's so scary is like
everybody's in this dating world and it's so scary. Now, well, prosy,
there are always red flags that we just choose hering more,

(06:02):
you know, and the problem is that you're coming in
statuated with someone who just STI blind those things you
just do. And although hers were kind of extreme, Um,
I mean she had some pretty stark realities but like
in front of her face and still still continue the relationship. So,

(06:25):
like I said, a lot of it had to do
with her family, A lot I had to do her
previous experiences, and it was, like I said, it was
sort of a perfect storm. But yeah, also with the audience,
you know more about him than she does. Of course
you're thinking that she's out of her mind and feeling
at the TV screen totally. But it's like, I feel
like everybody's been there. You've been in that situation where yeah,

(06:45):
you're like completely blinded by law and you like, yeah, okay,
So this show, Um, it ended on Sunday night, and um,
obviously it's will end this coming Sunday night. Yes, well
this is airing on Monday, so oh so people will

(07:07):
have the yeah that's okay. Um, so it ended on
it ended on Sunday night, So I think obviously this
is like a it's a limited series because it's like
a story that has a beginning, middle end. Um, what's
next for you? Where can we see you next? Well,
I'm I'm working on an HBO series right now down
in Atlanta called Watchman, which is great fun. That's fun.

(07:31):
Do you feel you feel it sometimes this year, but
I don't know when. And you film it in Atlanta
if i am, I'm actually sitting in the hair and
makeup trailer as in Atlanta, Georgia. Oh cool. And you
don't know when that's coming out for really they fit Jim,
but I think it might be a little later than that.
And that's based on the comic book Watchman, right, yeah,
the graphic the graphic novel. Excuse me? And who who

(07:54):
do you? Which character do you play? I like to
tell you that teaser teaser. Well, thank you so much
for taking the time. I know that you had a
short amount of time, so we really really appreciate you
calling in this morning, and thank you so much. You're
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(09:49):
I just want to tell you I got my a
d T after episode two of Dairy John, Did you really?
I am not even joking my ring. I was like, no, no,
I'm done with this ring. I need a fall on
system because my ass would go for a man like John. Yeah,
I would be the one. You're susceptible to that sort
of charm. Oh Like, if I meet you and I

(10:12):
don't think that I have to sleep with one eye open,
then you're not for me. Like I like a little crazy,
Like I get it. I get Deborah. When I met her,
I was like, I get you. I like a little crazy,
I like a little Mustere. Why do you like that?
Because it's nice to have like a Ryan Philippe in
cruel intentions, someone that might ruin your life but will

(10:33):
give you the best sex ever. You know what I mean?
You know I don't want that. I'm the opposite. I
want like the nice nerdy guy that like sells books
in the book, Oh you want boring? Tim Tebow? I
heard I heard. Wait. I want to give a little
background because when when I did the gloves I was
talking about in our last podcast for e UM, I
got to do it with Justin Sylvester and I had

(10:55):
so much fun. So when I heard that you were
coming into guest co host, I was like, Oh, this
is gonna be really fun because be a really good yeah.
And it was so nice that you replaced Becca with
a big black eye, so great that I'm just gonna
fill Becca's Lubatan's um. Wait, tell me about meeting Deborah.
Oh my god, speaking of dirty John speak. So I

(11:18):
listened to the podcast twice. I was obsessed with it.
I couldn't believe I had read it in the paper.
People dot Com had did this whole thing on it
a few years back. I was not yet. I'm like
baby steps. So I met E and I have a
um A interview scheduled with the celebrity, and everyone had
been fighting over the celebrity that was coming in, but

(11:41):
I had like finessed my way into getting it. But
at the same time, I saw these two blonde women
coming in and out of the corner of my eye,
I was like, oh my god, that's a mother and
a daughter from Dirty John and my boss the actress
is the real daughter that that's really happened to in
Orange County from Dirty John. So my boss was like, oh, yeah,

(12:03):
we have a producer on that. We're just gonna do
this quick interview. I'm like, I'm so sorry, you are
going to have to find somebody else for this a
list actress because I need to talk to Deborah in
Terra Newell and she was like, I don't understand. I'm like,
I am really sorry, but I have got to do this.
I literally ran in that room. This twenty minute interview
turned into a two hour talk session and this one

(12:27):
part interviews. The two minute segment turned into four parts
on a news Wow was Yeah, I mean the thing,
I think that's so jarring and I think why it
struck a chord of people because it's it's a true story,
so it's like a TV show on Bravo, but it's like,
legit happened to this woman. Oh my god, this is
really happening. But to hear the story and talk to

(12:48):
not only the second wife, Deborah Knewell, but his first
wife was also in the interview. And I always wanted
to know, like if you date somebody crazy, and then
you know I'm dating somebody crazy because you see it
on Instagram and on social media. Pick up the phone? Yeah,
why did she not? I asked her because I was like, yo,

(13:11):
you know, like why didn't you pick up the phone?
Like what happened? And she was like, I was so
scared that he was going to come back into my
life that I couldn't risk it. I'm like, that's when
you send an anonymous letter that says, Molly, you and
danger girl, and I'm gonna know exactly what it means,
you know what I mean, like I will run. But
I don't think even talking to Deborah that she wanted

(13:31):
to hear it because she was so in love with John.
John must have been putting it down in the bed,
I know. I think the thing that's also so scary
is like how love can blind you, like fully fully
blind you. It's no, no, it's good. D I'm sorry.
I could also blind you can also blind your as

(13:53):
have you, like walking around here without like no eyes
And because once you get it good, you're like, Okay,
I don't care. I'm gonna look past this man who
might be a serial killer, who has no credit my
daughters are saying, he's going to kill me. Yeah, it's
not about love. At that point, I just couldn't believe.
But it's it's a crazy story. Yeah, it is so crazy.

(14:15):
Have you started watching you? I can't get into it yet.
Have you started? Yeah? How much? Episode two? And you
still don't like it? I already knew who they're going
to pin it on? All the murders you talk about
you in lifetime? Yeah? Oh, how far are you in?
I'm like almost done? John stays gets, Oh, I shouldn't
tell you that. He just came in so I haven't

(14:37):
seen it. I'm not into it, Okay, I need a
real story. It's on Netflix now. If anyone's interested in
blowing up and it's your latest obsession, I'm like, obsessed.
What else you're obsessed with right now? Dirty John? You
almost finished? You almost finished? And I'm going to get
into sex education. That seems to be the next feel
buzzy Netflix. Yeah. Have you guys watched all the r Kelly?

(15:00):
You know what buzzy too? That's a big one. I
sat down to watch it and I could not get
past fifteen minutes of it. It was so hard for
me to like watch did you watch it? Yeah? Watch
all six parts in one night. Really, But I was like,
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna pill off the band aid.
I'm just going to handle it. It was the first
time in the ten years that I've had a DVR

(15:22):
that I have not fast forward through the commercials because
I needed the commercials to process with what's going on. Right. Yeah, no,
but can I just say there was a lot of commercials,
Like it was like five minutes of show tenants a commercial,
five minutes of Show Tenants commercials. They did it on
purpose because they knew you could not handle eight straight minutes.
I couldn't handle it of that whole situation. I really couldn't,

(15:44):
and I wanted to. I really sat down. I was like,
I'm gonna get because it it is, everybody's talking about it.
It's a giant story. But I was like, I literally
made me so sick to my stomach, like I felt ill,
and I only watched ten minutes maybe my all time,
Like not, I don't want to say a favorite part,
but the part that really got me the most was
the interviewer's brother who's in jail. The brother is in

(16:06):
like jail, squarebs with his number on it, and he
is speaking matter of factly. He's like, you know, people
have preferences. I like older women, that's just my preference.
My brother likes young women, that's his preference. What's real
that I'm thinking to myself, Oh my god, I know
he is so mad at your ass right now we're
talking like that, Like, what's wrong with your brother liking

(16:29):
fifteen year olds? I don't know. Let me think. Yeah,
And if you haven't gotten into it yet, I know
I am an adult man. But Sabrina is everything. Oh
I've heard that's good act The Sabrina the Darker. It's
on Netflix as well. Everything. It's um Greg brill Ante production.

(16:56):
That sounds like, yeah, it's deep and dark. It's really
been dark. Sounds like something I'd like, we need to
bring Janine in please. Okay. So um, I'm just gonna
preface this. Justin has not seen one episode of Grey's Anatomy. Okay,
Well he's been and that's gonna say. It's a lot
to catch up on because there's like sixteen season when
Derek died, I was out, yeah, and when the plane

(17:19):
fell into Seattle, I was like, I'm done spoiler alert.
Spoiler alert people. A lot of people who listen to
the podcast haven't seen Grays on me and they're starting
from like season one because of the podcast. So it's
kind of cool. So we just have to say spoiler
with everything. Hello, Okay, this is very exciting because we
are giant fans of Grey's Anatomy. I've heard about this podcast.

(17:45):
All the fans are always sending me things. They're like,
you gotta go on it. That's amazing because we are
like we've been like petitioning to like be extras like
Beck and they're like it will be like dead people
just like roll us in or like you know, like
we don't even have to speak. We're just like so
you're seeing people on the set and know about scrubbing in.
Oh god, yes, And the fans are crazy. We showed

(18:06):
up to us called paley Fest haley Fest, and so
we're like in the line of um like all the press,
you know, professionals and that can. I showed up in
our scrubs. My hub actors are walking yeah Stoker City
and I was like, uh hi, we're here, and it

(18:28):
was amazing. So yeah, I'm glad to know we made
our Mark. But we have like so many questions. Are
you obsessed? Were you a big fan of the show
before you got on? For sure? Watched it all through
high school with my sister. I have a younger sister
who were you know, like each other's has um, and
we watched it together fully, like sprawled on her bed
tissues every week, just cathartic experience. And um, when I

(18:53):
got the gig, I didn't know how how to tell her.
I thought like, there's an opportunity here to do something ridiculous.
I just it would be so good if I could
just like walk on with like my little you know,
I pad like my badge in my pocket, going like
I'm a doctor. And um, there was no way to
keep the secret because as soon as that like new
intern classes announced, it's like all over the internet and

(19:14):
the fans are so pumped. So it was spoiled. So
you didn't get to do your big reveal. But she
was so excited. She's an attorney, so she's very respectable.
And I called her while she was at work and
I was like, hey, um, so I got a new gig.
I'm gonna be on the Shoker's Anatomy. She's like are you.
I just imagine her like first year attorney at her desk,

(19:36):
just like, oh my god, fabulous, so wonderful. When you
show up to work the first day on set and
like the new interns are written, all the hot actors
are there, is there like one guy You're like, Okay,
I would like to make out with this dude. I
hope I get this this love scene going like give
us the closet for five minutes. Oh my god. I

(19:58):
definitely walked in going like, let me be the first
one to make out with someone, because you know, there's
always like the intern that feel you were yeah, yeah,
let's do it, but the hole that we liked, like
a likable home. Thank you? Make that my new Twitter
you should. I always remember the host from Grace, like

(20:18):
if you're not hooking up a carab in a closet
or like I need you to be what's her name
that came in? That was what's her Name's sister in
law Lexi greg favorite character. She's Donny and she's on
the CW now she's just on Super Oh that's right, yes, okay. First,
before we move on to your other show, making Out

(20:41):
de Luca ten out of ten yes, I would. I
mean it looks like a twenty out of ten. He's
the loveliest. I honestly could not have have picked out
of a lineup a better you know partner in that
show because he's just loves it and is newer. So
he's like, still, are you aware of how freaking cool

(21:01):
it is to be there and it? But he's totally
you know, comfortable there and it's his world and his
family and he just was like a great little like
guiding you know. He was the nicest when we met him,
Like he was like he thought we were like so
cool in our scrubs and he was just so lovely.
So I'm like his biggest family and he's like beautiful.
How do you prep for that? Like, are you like
here's some banka, Like I've already got the garlic out

(21:24):
of my teeth. Like is there like a process where
like someone comes and sprays you down. No, Honestly, it's
really on you to just i mean be good and
decent about it. I guess there's not really any like
checking it. It's just like you're gonna you're gonna have
to be a good friend. Because I have a friend
who's an actor and I'm like, I know you're a
tartar is not putting it in your mouth, and I
would feel bad for every girl that he has to

(21:46):
kiss on camera after you tell me who Because I'm
a void, I'm gonna tell you. I tweet it all
the time. Are you? Are you in a relationship? I
I oh, talk about it. I just like to know
because I'm like, it's for me. I'm not an actor,
so like to make out with somebody would be so
weird to me if I had a significant other, So

(22:08):
I always wonder. It's definitely a part of everybody's you
know of relationship like dating that, and I mean it's
it's interesting to me. I love talking to actors about that, Yeah,
going like how do you do it with your guy?
Or how do you do it with your lady? You know, totally,
especially when you're on like a sitcom and it's like
you're constantly having to make out with the same person.
It's like or if you're like on an HBO show

(22:29):
and you're just like, but is your guy an actor?
I don't want to talk about would you prefer would
you prefer let me ask you a question? In a
broad sense, as an actor, do you enjoy dating other
actors or do you like to date people who are
outside of the industry. I try to avoid it. I Um,

(22:53):
it's it's just I think it's less to do with
acting in general, but just the entertainment we I think
our world is very all encompassing and um you sort
of just like have to give yourself into it and
it takes you. Um. So it's really fun for me.
It's kind of my like hoping mechanism to connect my friend,
my family. They don't think I'm cool at all, and

(23:14):
I love it because we're no cooler than anyone else.
We just like to, you know, we like to support
and encourage each other. But it is it's a lot
of talking about yourself and promoting, whether it's yourself or
what you're working on or your friends thing. And so
I try to Yeah, on my that's all right through

(23:36):
your ass. You works at Price Waterhouse Cooper. I know it. Okay, Well,
let's talk about ROSWALLLD, New Mexico because that's out tonight tonight. Yeah,
because today, Yeah on the w that cast is stacked
to you. I mean, they're pretty pretty wonderful. It's a

(23:56):
lot of vets to UM. Michael Travino. We love Michael
trep Be. I mean, man's a dream not to love.
I don't like a reboot, but I'm ready for this one.
Thank you. I went to that installation on Sunset. They
did not play with that. They put some money into that.
They got budgets. W my friends. We've been shooting in
Santa Fe, New Mexico, so we've just been in this

(24:17):
glorious little bubble of creativity. And now we're back in
l A. And it's just been the last month getting
pictures of billboards all over town from friends and friends
in New York in the subway, and I'm like, they're
not playing, They're like plastering that forehead pick everywhere. Of
the two of us, who is your favorite, but who's
been like your friend on set? Oh gosh, I love
Lily Coles, who plays Isabelle on our show UM, which

(24:41):
was originally played in the original by Katherine Heigel. It's
another little fun Gray's connection. There's Ellen actually Pompeo. She
was she was so excited for me when when this
gig came up and it was like out in the world,
an official and She's like, I just love it. That
Katie came from Roswell to Grays and now you're going

(25:02):
from Grays to Roswell. It's just like, I love everything
about it. I'm like, thanks, Alan, girl, love you are brave.
You are a brave woman. Dropping Catherine I go up
in here. I thought she was like Vuldermart. I thought
she was like Voldemart on the set of Grays, like
you don't the one we don't speak off. She's been
so supportive of the show. She's been awesome. I mean, honestly,

(25:25):
all of them have. Jason Bear, who played Max Evans
on the original, who is stunning. Oh my god, that
man is beautiful. Um. I met him and he came
up to me and grabbed me by the shoulders and
was like, and I'm so excited you. I'm so excited
anything you need. It was just like a dream. I'm
just like, what what did Valdemar tell you? I actually

(25:48):
haven't met her in person yet, but I can't. I
can't believe I dropped that day. I actually loved her
and Grays and I was like, you know what you get?
Didn't you dote that heart? Don't even get me started
on that. I still think that Denny and Izzy were
the best romance of Grey's Anatomy history, and I thought
she was crazy to go that hard for that, Like,

(26:09):
don't waste your life on maybe getting the guy who
might survived to her transplant. Aren't, Like, I don't get it,
that's what you do for love? Can I tell you
that really? That they shot all his scenes and because
there's quite a bit of structure to the sets on
Gray's Apatomy, and that room is referred to as still.
I mean, you try to be normal and you know,

(26:31):
get to a place where you're like I belong here
and this is casual, and then you know, someone tells
you that and I'm like, this is the realm to girl.
That's good to know that the girl Kanye like today
guys that are completely unavailable to her. So maybe that's
what you need, is a guy who's dying, so you

(26:52):
need you need to Anna Nicole Smith like Jay Howard
Marshall Feeding Tube eight five, got some kids like you
might have to fight a son in court, but you're
gonna get the money. How long have you been in
Los Angeles? Um? I moved out here four days after

(27:13):
I graduated high school. And how many years that was
in two thousand nine. Okay, alst ten years ago to
do so you think you can dance? It was my
first job. A bit. You've been busy, I've been busy. Roswell,
Criminal Minds in C I S, Daytime Divas, c S I,
Major Crimes, Big Time Rush. My favorite of all those

(27:35):
stats is bun Hits. That I wasn't the only adult
man watching bun Hits. I swear to god, I was obsessed.
Oh my gosh. Okay, So Nathan Dean Parsons, who plays
Mike Evans, my lover on this show, was also in Buet.
That's so we our characters didn't interact. He played Sutton Fosters,
like sexy romance who works at the bar, and he

(27:56):
had like long hair back then, and um I remember
seeing him on set and I'm like in my tights
and I was with like the young ns. I think
I was twenty two at the time, but I was playing,
you know, probably sixteen, and he was I think, you know,
maybe twenty eight at the time, playing like you know,
thirty something, and um so I'm like, oh, he's definitely

(28:16):
super old. But um I remember walking by and being
like damn. And then okay, thank you were continuing on
and then when they sent me the email that we
were chemistry reading, I'm like, I know that name. I
looked up. I'm like that god forty year old hot
dude from Butonheads and turns out he's very much thirty
and he's probably still using the same hatshot. I love
that in l A like I love that you always

(28:39):
cross paths with other people in the entertainment industry. And
that's why I always tell actors, don't piss someone off
in Los Angeles, not even actors. Everyone you never know
when you're gonna like meet up with somebody again. And
sometimes I'm have one enemy in this whole city. One
are they famous? And when I run into that bitch,
I'm like, by, I run the other way because she's

(29:02):
more famous than me. She's way more famous than I couldn't.
I don't even get stopped. The only place I get
stopped is a grove. And you think I'm Wayne Brady,
and I go with it. I go with it. I'm like, yes, yes,
tell me to go with it. I literally go with it.
She is scary Spice, and she will remind me of
the one encounter we have had nine years ago. I

(29:26):
learned my lesson. It's true. Actually the one thing that
when I was interning for the very first time, I
was for a different radio station actually here in l
A and the coast of that show, Irma Blanco shout out.
I love her. She listens to the podcast now. She
told me, she said, literally, you need to be nice
to everybody because one day you're intern will be your boss.
I was like, it's just stuck with me. It's good advice,

(29:47):
but it's the rug advice for you because you are
nice to everything. You are really would be anything that's
super nice to everything. Very nice of you to say,
but it really stuck with me. And then like even um,
I still to this day of the Chelsea Handler advice,
she said, UM, don't be catty. There's room for everybody.
I believe that totally. Have you run into any cattiness

(30:11):
while being in this industry for nine years? Is there
one that you try to like avoid at all costs?
You know? I was thinking about this the other day
because someone had asked me in an interview, UM, who
supported you early on in your career? And I got
really in the moment um it's my kind of my
instinct to try to be things positive in interviews and
I want to just like you know, be a positive

(30:32):
force in the world. In the moment, I thought about
the people who weren't good to me off the top,
because off the top it was a lot of doors
being slammed in my face by people who I thought
I had some sort of connection to e either from
my hometown orright you know, met in high school through someone,
and um, that was the Honestly, the experience off the
top was not one of a lot of help, and UM,

(30:54):
I'm grateful to it now because I'm so committed to
making time. I mean that like have coffee with someone,
thing like there is time in your day and it
is our obligation as the people who have I know,
fought hard and for years to be where we are
we have. We have a little bit of space to

(31:14):
pull people up, and so I try to really take
advantage of that. Now. UM, I actually have a really
good friend who a year ago where I was when
I met him to where I am right now. It's
informed a lot by meeting him. Jonathan Tucker is his name,
I don't know. He's amazing actors on Westworld right now
he's so Yes, everyone google Jonathan Tucker Abs. I cannot

(31:38):
wait for him to hear this podcast. No, he is married,
but he is the most wonderful cheerleader and champion of
a friend. And um, I pretty much met him in
an acting class. I mean, look at this man, look
at that. Yes, and he lives next door to my agent,

(31:58):
my now agent, and at the time he was like,
you know what, you're really good. You need a cat agent.
You're gonna be repped by my neighbor. I'm like, and
I'm repped by his neighbor. And two weeks after being
repped by his neighbor, I got this job. So it's
people like that that I just totally you know what
my dream is. My dream is to one day when
an Emmy. In the minute I get there, I'm going

(32:20):
to thank God. And then I'm going to say, and
these are the people who I do not want to thank.
That's my I swear if I ever win an award,
I don't care if it's a Razzy. I'm gonna get
in there and be like, I want to not think
these get the list out. That's exactly what we did
when we want our People's Choice awarded. For this podcast.

(32:42):
We didn't give a speech there, but we gave it
on the podcast and we were like we want to
thank what Mark and like, you know, just all the
people that It was like one of those moments where
I was like, oh, I don't want to thank this person.
Amazing in the moment that like negativity floods, then you
just gotta go like, you know what I knows about
that I'm doing. I'm doing just fine. Nope, I'm gonna

(33:03):
be petty, you know, but it is true because I
think it's like, especially so early on, you really remember
those people that like stood out and like really made
even when you were saying about Ellen Pompeo like beings
encouraging about you getting another gig. Like a lot of
people sometimes think when you get another gig, it's like
going to take away from your like um productivity on

(33:23):
Grays or like whatever whatever that maybe you know it's
like no, like your flower and you're flourishing and like
that's only going to benefit the other shows that you're on.
So you have a double bag. You're getting two bags
right now. Tell me you're getting Roswell bags and you're
getting Grays in Atty bags. Bags are money. You know that.
That took me a minute. How does it feel to

(33:44):
have two bags coming in right now? So nice? Because
this is expensive, like this outfit and my hair and
my ma. It's amazing. It's like you're just gonna put
it right back into the machine. But I'm so happy too,
because I love what I'm doing and I just want
to keep trying to get more opportunities to do it.
You left Grays for New Mexico, so when your character left,

(34:05):
that was all part of the plan. You weren't like,
oh no, they're writing me out. This was all planned
and they were so kind because they obviously when I
shot Roswell was just the pilot, so we didn't then
know whether it would be picked up a series as
it's been you know since. So they wrote me off
in this way where I didn't die. I wasn't the
antern who died. You can come back, Yes, I'm in Switzerland.
Yes you can. So we don't want you to come

(34:27):
back right now because we really want to Luca to
be with Meredith. Yes, yes, I am supported that, So
hang out in Rosalim. I am good, I'm good with
the aliens. I will rest until you need me, who
would you give the whole crown too, because like obviously
you left, You're not the whole Grays. The new hoe

(34:48):
is Mr Jake Brelli, who plays Levi Glasses Schmidt. Oh yes,
and I love that man. There's another person who's been
in my life forever. We met in an acting class
like eight years ago. He's my actual best friend and
we managed to somehow get the job of the same
class of interns. To say, I usually don't like the

(35:09):
no offense, iually don't like the new interns. Like, I'm
kind of like really like this class. I really enjoyed
this new class. Thank you. They're all so lovely, really talented.
Like I'm invested, and I'm usually not invested on the interns.
I'm kind of like taking relieve changed. She has like
new characters. She doesn't like all the characters to leave.
She wants to show to never change. Ever, excuse me,

(35:32):
I can embrace change. I just enjoy the o G.
I'm like invested in the Carebs and the Miranda Bailey's
and the like. Are they great? If Justin schamers a
great guy, because I see him like it seems like
he is. I'm obsessed with that man. He is the loveliest,
um like purest definition of like a father. Five kids,
five kids, and it has been with his wife since

(35:53):
he was like nineteen. Yes, the man is like he's
just a teddy. He's wonderful. I so looke men like that.
By the way, you're saluting that man, I'm like, I
salute Patrick Dempsey for having that hair. Yeah, like for
like for looking like that. But he ruined us all

(36:15):
because now we all are like expect everybody to be
like my dreaming. Tyler Blackburn's on right. I love him,
Oh my god, he's so so good in this show.
There is a scene at the end of the pilot
that's Aaron tonight, um, which I don't want to ruin it,
but it's between him and the Michael Garon character was
played by Michael Lamis. If you catch him a drift,

(36:39):
you're on the you're on the right track, not kidding you.
The entire cast came to set that day to watch
the scene and we were cheering like a bunch of
teenagers watching them do this scene. I mean, they are
so good together. Um. And Tyler was someone who I
was like, this guy's coming off of six years of

(36:59):
pretty Little Tires. He can fully be anicult to me
and be you know, high and mighty and whatever. You know,
those people who are less than lovely love to do.
And I was so amazed by how gracious and how
much of a care caretaker he is. He's on set
just like, do you know anything? Are you okay? He's amazing.
You know what happened? Right When people get on shows

(37:21):
like Pretty Little Liars and all these big explosive shows,
once they get that renegotiation, there's a packet that comes
to them, and in the packet it's a Mischa Barton clause,
and it tells you exactly what not to do, as
of like with Misha Barton went through because Miser Barton
was the hottest thing since sliced bread and then all
of a sudden, she kind of sort of had this

(37:42):
attitude that she was like Marissa Cooper and she was
the hottest thing on the block. And I feel like
a lot of people can't do that anymore because there's
so much TV, there's so many actors, there's so much
going on that to have that hit show again, it's
kind of a hard thing to get that second hit show.
But you've obviously gotten multiple hit shows. Who are you?

(38:05):
Who are right now? I just feel like I need
to run out there and feel amazing. Well, we're obsessed
with you. I don't want to take up two much
of your times. I feel like you have to go.
But I wanted to say on behalf of just for
sure all of our listeners, who are just so grateful
that you came into the o R today. Oh my god,

(38:25):
thank you for telling you. This has been like so
long coming, just a fan and I'm so happy. And
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(41:50):
big Oh? Are welcome to Nia Franklin. Thank you guys,
have brain part. Congratulations. That's a really big deal Miss America. Yeah,
it's huge, it's awesome. Was that your first time running?

(42:11):
You can only run from Miss America one time? Oh,
and that's it. Did you know you're gonna win? No?
I didn't. No one knows they're gonna win. You walked
in and you were like, I'm gonna win this. You
can sit down, Okay, all right now, let's now, let's
be honest. You have to have that mindset, but you
don't actually know you're going to win, but you have
to kind of boost you have to boost yourself up

(42:33):
in your head like I'm gonna win. This is it.
It's it's me, you know what I mean. But that's
I think that's just something you do for confidence. You
would never say that out loud. I feel like you
walk into Starbucks, You're like, I'm gonna get this La
Tafa for free because I look like this. You are
ridiculously gorgeous. Thank you. You are stunning. Thank you. So
are you every both of you guys. And I'm a

(42:54):
game man, and I'm like, Damer, what's your man look like? Okay,
so my man he's tall, like he's six one, but
he's slender. Okay, Um, that's kind of what I've been into,
like the slender. How did you guys meet? We met
through a mutual friend that I went to high school with. Um. Yeah,

(43:15):
so I didn't really want him at first, and then
circled back like a year or two later and he
was asking me out for a date and we went
on a date, and then I was like, okay, kind
of feeling you. Now, how's he handling the fact that
you are like like you are Miss America. He's like
super chill about it, which I don't know that I love.
I'm like, I kind of wish you were a little

(43:37):
more Yeah, yeah, like a little more like, oh you're
miss But he's really chill, which is a good thing.
It keeps me humble. I think in the long run
that's probably better. I think. So yeah, you know, low key,
like you know, when you're not around, he's like texting
his boys like, yeah, yeah, you girls are thought my
girls Miss America. Because his friends are always He's like,

(43:59):
my friends to support you so much. And he he
was just overwhelmed the night that I won. He was
like emotional because of all the support from his friends
and and everything. Was he there? Of course he'd better
have been there when you won. That was my dad
that was buried in her. That's crazy. I mean it's

(44:25):
a big accomplishment, not only to win Miss America, but
to be an African American winning that title. What does
that feel like to be one of four? One of
actually one of nine, I believe. Yes. The first one
was Vanessa Williams as we all know, and then there's
been um, the last one was chriss A Cameron. So
there's been a couple since the eighties when we when

(44:46):
there was the first black Miss America. But it still
feels I mean in a lot of ways, it feels
fresh because we haven't had one since two thousand and ten,
I believe, and so it feels really fresh. It feels awesome.
It's just a celebration of diversity, I believe. I mean,
America's a melting pot. And I don't know if you
guys watched the competition, but we had um four I

(45:06):
mean four of the top five or people of color
or either of um a non white background. Bridget my
first round up was of Asians with her father is Asian,
so UM. I thought it was just incredible to see
that that that amount, that degree of the diversity on
the Miss America stage. And I think it's that's a
good example for young girls out there watching so that

(45:28):
they can know that, you know, I don't have to
be a look a certain way to be Miss America. Yeah,
because back in the day, I mean that top ten
looked like a Republican national convention for a girl like
yellow white and blinde Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Yeah, I mean,
diversity is something that I think, um, everyone's embracing now,
but Miss America's embracing diversity more than ever. I mean,

(45:50):
we even got rid of swimsuit this year, which is
which I was a little bit upset about at first.
I'm not gonna lie. I was so bad because you
would if I've been working in my body. But two
years getting ready for this, you guys believe I'm showing
up in two spaghetti strings and a nipple basie, ready
to show this body off. Like I have not been
not eaten for two years to not have this, bitch,

(46:13):
I've been doing Tracy Anderson for two I know. But
then you get to have that body just for yourself
and be like I get to have this, yeah, and
this is my my body for me. I agree. And
that's the mindset I think we should have as as
women as men. We should have that mindset that it's
not your body. Obviously you do want to look good,
but it should be for you. Um and you know,

(46:35):
I think that what was important to me, even though
I was mad that it was gone, because I was
the swimsuit winner at Miss New York, so you know
that part. I knew if I went to Miss America
I would slay suit, and so that was hard to
let go of it first. But then I really didn't
realize that this creates such a great opportunity for young
women to see that to be Miss America, which is

(46:58):
a title that really comes with a lot of service
and making the world a better place through things that
you see fit to change in the world. You don't
have to wear some suits to do this job. I
have not once worn of some suit yet as Miss America.
So why would that be a part of the the
audition or the competition to get where I am? Yeah?
But I mean, like from my point of view, obviously

(47:19):
if I was Mis America everywhere, But well, you can't
do that, you get with I mean like you have
women like Ashley Graham right now, who's killing the game,
who's building and showing women that their bodies are beautiful
no matter what size. Why not you know, really have
that moment and continue to have that moment that, yeah,
this is my body. It's not anything but a temple

(47:40):
and it was created by God, Like, let me show
this all. I love that, And but that's the thing
I don't The thing is every woman does not feel
comfortable and as some suits, and so I don't think
it's right to make that a part of the competition.
Now me. I mean, I haven't been to the beach
yet as Miss America, but I'm hoping that my team
will be fine with me posting us some suit pick
if I wanted to write, and I would love to
if they are, you know, if they're okay with me

(48:01):
doing something like that. But for some women, they don't
want to show their bodies off. They don't want to
be in a slim suit on stage to just try
to win a title. But really, more importantly, this is
a job for me, and so they don't want to
have to put on a suit for a job. And
there aren't many jobs where you have to wear some
suit for it other than being a bit tory secret
model or something like that. Right, that's my dream, isn't really?

(48:23):
Oh my god, girl, I just want all that we
even I want that hand blowing. I want to watch
and I do have to say, eyelashes on you look
really good. They look good. They really opened up your eyes.
And I was like, wow, what they do? Ye shout
out to ardel you can buy ardell at. It was
like a whole ad. I just what's your next move? Like,

(48:43):
what are you going to do? My next move? I mean,
after this year or like tomorrow, Like I know you're going, Yeah,
the Symphony, I know you're doing that, but like, obviously
you have this look, you have this brand. How are
you going to set this place on fire? Well, a musician,
I'm a singer and songwriter, and I want to one
day also right for films like film scoring, and so

(49:06):
I just want to be just I just want to
dive into the music business after this year. I know
it can be a little scary, um, but I feel
like I've done my work. I've done my homework. I
have two degrees in music and no show you to
anyone that doesn't go to school for music in the industry,
but that was something I wanted to do for me.
I really wanted to educate myself on how music is constructed.
So I have a master's in music composition and um,

(49:27):
later on this this year, I mean, and by later on,
I mean like in the next two months, I'll be
releasing a single called Earth Sun. So um yeah, I'm
releasing a single hopefully people like it, and then I'll
be hopefully doing an EP album at the end of
the year. After I'm not missing it anymore. What's your vibe?
Is it? Lauren Ni not wrap Are you wrapping? Are

(49:49):
you padding it? Or are you thinking? Are you Indian
ire in it? Ok? Yes, throw back a little a
little bit of it all. This single is more sultry
is the ballad and it's just piano voice, nothing to
fancy with the instrumentation. Um, so it's me playing piano.
But yeah, I love Lauren Hill and she's epic. She's
actually I have I have the little stickers that go

(50:11):
on like your laptop, and it's her holding all her
Grammys U twelve Grammys or something that's about at a
concert if I wait for two more hours or as
to show up on stage. But yeah, so it's a
little bit of everything. You'll have to listen to it.
You'll have to listen to it when it comes out.

(50:32):
What are your thoughts? So, uh, movie scoring is like
very interesting to me, like obsessed. It's you only usually
have like two months to write the music too. Really, yeah,
you do not have a lot of time to get
the score together. So like, what are your thoughts on
a stars? Oh? You shady? Why is that shady? I

(50:54):
didn't think it was that bomb the score. I thought
it was actually who wrote a score for that? One
I'm not I'm not sure we wrote the score for that.
I don't know marks on it. I know Gaga wrote
a lot of the songs. Well, I love the song.
The songs are great. Yes. When I think about a score,
I think about something that gives me anxiety, like when
I watch your movie and the music is making me

(51:14):
Like when I watched A Girl with the Dragon Tattoo,
Like I could have closed my eyes and I still
got the anxiety because the music was so good. I
don't want to feel anxious when I listened to a
movie score. I want to feel good like um, even
though I don't. I forget the name of the composer.
I looked at it up on Instagram. I would find
it though, because I follow him. There was a man
that did the score for UM if Bill Street could talk,
And that score is beautiful. It's like a lot of

(51:35):
string instruments and like low cellos, and it's I mean,
it's gorgeous. I'll play it all the time just to
like look to it and then also sick in the city.
Aaron Zigman was the score Um. He did the score
for that, which is a beautiful score with a lot
of like light piano one not too. I don't know
about I don't When she was laying in that bed
and she was like, my favorite is when my favorite

(52:02):
part of the whole movie and the music wise because
I get into the music too, I'm so happy that
you're here. Is when she sees the vote cover and
like she's walking through she just got the brown hair
and she gets a vote cover and she's walking and
it's like, don't, don't that was a good score. I
I didn't see you, as said, But now I'm like,
you know what this guy just a you know she

(52:24):
got And by the way, y'all need to google her
right now because I don't even see what she looks like.
This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. Do you
mean the fans, the people listening, Yes, you guys know
she has oh cambel right here her Actually, Like, do

(52:46):
people take you serious? Would you say you want to
be a music composer? Because I feel like it's not
all the time and all the time I had. That's
something I actually struggle with throughout college because I was new.
I mean, I didn't grow up writing music on paper.
I have a group writing songs kind of my ear
writing down the cords and that sort of thing. But
I never wrote a score actually until like my senior

(53:07):
year of high school. But when I got to college,
I was one of the only female composers, and I mean,
I just felt so out of place sometimes. Not only
was was I the only female, one of the only
female composers, that was definitely the only black female composer,
and so I mean that there was one other black
composer that was a man, and that was awesome, and
everybody loved him and thought he was amazing, and he was.

(53:29):
It was Quincy Gens. We were in the same Yeah,
we went to school together. But yeah, I definite I
definitely thought out of place sometimes, and I just had
to continue keeping on and building up my confidence and
doing things that I knew it would be outside of
the box. So I ended up writing an opera for
my senior recital, which had not been done before at
my school, and um, it had a It had a

(53:50):
full house, which was crazy because usually I don't know
if you guys had friends that were musicians or anything
in college like that were music majors, but there's usually
like twenty people in that show up to your recital,
your senior year, and it's like your friends and your
voice teacher and that's it. You know. It felt so
good that I had a full house at my opera
and I definitely advertised it and like partner with music

(54:10):
appreciation teachers to get their kids to come. So I
really marketed it well and had a full house, and
that made me feel super cool and like it made
me feel like, you know, I maybe a woman, but
in the words of Seeley from The Color Purple, I'm here,
so I mean, I'm here, so I can't wait for
you to win an oscar. And then the cameraman gets
confused because you start walking up and she's liked, wait, what,
that's not that's not that's not like you're supposed to

(54:33):
look like Doc Brown from Back to the Future, like crazy.
But I'm like, that's going to be a leg in
for you as well. I know, people don't probably take
you seriously because you are African American woman in this male,
white dominated situation, but people may actually open the door
to be like, oh my god, let's see what she
can do, and let's be those people that opened the door.

(54:55):
I would love that. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm gonna push
that for you. I'm gonna pray for that. I'm gonna
pray on that. I'm a Southern man. I thank you.
You better thank me in your first asking. Well, that's amazing.
Thank you so much for taking the time to Yes,
of course scrubbing with us. Yes, it was awesome. Thank you.
I'm watching you. I'm gonna be watching and follow me

(55:19):
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Mr America or the Ladysitter. By the way, I'm so sorry.
I had so much on today. I was like literally
like steamrolling everything. Wait, it's so nice. It's nice to
have like your energy, a really good energy. It was
bomb Okay, So every where can everybody follow you? Say
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(55:40):
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Justin was great. He's great, right. I really enjoyed him
a lot. Um, you wanted to ask me a question.
I forget what it was, but I may you save
it for air. Um. I wanted to know if we
heard back from the man the email that we got
last week about the man who was taking pictures of himself,
the one that all the podcasts answered last week. Yes,
I wanted to know if we heard back a and

(01:01:12):
be if anybody else agreed with me and thought it
was a medical situation. I have not heard from the
actual woman who sent the email, and not another person
on any of the other shows thought it was a
medical situation. But what I said to you on Twitter
I think exaccurate. You give guys too much credit. You're
always giving guys the benefit of the doubt when they
don't deserve it. This guy probably has a medical situation.
At the very best, he's incredibly vain and loves looking

(01:01:33):
at himself naked. That's the best case scenario. If if
my flaw in life is that I'm too hopeful, I
don't want to be wrong flaw. I don't want to
be I don't want to be non flawed. I understand. Yeah,
and I agree. I think that's actually a nice thing
about you. But can I tell you why I thought this? Yes,

(01:01:55):
So it's kind of like, this is such a tiny story,
but it was just so good and it really made
me think of it. So I had this like sebacious
cyst and it was in my like the vaginal area.
And if you're a girl, you know this, Like you
see anything down there and you're like, oh my god,
I have like herpes or like whatever. Well, how big

(01:02:15):
was it? Like I'm trying to picture a sift um. Well,
they can vary in size, but this one was like,
I don't know, like it looks like no smaller than
that um. And so your mind goes to the dark place. Okay,
I'm looking at a picture now, I think I had
one of those. Yeah, So I went to my guy
no and found out that's what it was. And I
was like, few, um, but so she basically removed this

(01:02:39):
the whole so it kind of like kept coming back
because I guess, like they can read, you know, dr
people pop will probably know all the best about this.
But um and sorry, this is like probably t m I,
but my gynecologists removed the entire thing. Okay, So that
she did it like on a Friday for me, and
you're supposed to like lay low in the next day,
like just like but she didn't tell me any of this,
and so me, Tanya, I worked that whole next sad today,

(01:03:00):
I had like an event. So I was on my
feet and I just started like bleeding uncontrollably, and I
was like, oh my gosh, am I gonna have to
go to the emergency room. Like I started panicking. I
didn't know that this was like you can't. I couldn't
get it to stop. So I'm like laying down with
like like a pillow under my butt. I'm taking pictures
of it and sending it to my mom. Such a
Tanya thing to do, by the way, It's like in

(01:03:20):
my vaginal area, and I'm taking pictures and sending them
to like my mom and my sister and I'm like,
what do I do in a spot where if you
were wearing underwear you wouldn't be able to see it?
I had to move the underwear. Yes, yes, And the
pictures that you're wearing underwear and not wearing no underwear,
it's full Tanya. And these photos okay, and they're going
straight to my mom and straight to my sister. Yeah.

(01:03:43):
And I'm documenting this like as the minutes go by,
because like I'm just panicked. I didn't know what to do.
And they're like, don't go to them, like they were
like really calming me down. They're like, this is whatever.
And then I end up calling my guy now and
she was like I should have put a stitch in there,
Like it's like a serious, like kind of like surgery
when they remove it. She didn't put the stitch in there. Whatever.
So all these photos are like in text exchange, right.

(01:04:05):
So I go to Apple with my parents that same
weekend and we get new phones, and um, the nice
guy that's helping us is like, Okay, I think everything's transferred,
all your contacts and everything. You should be good to go.
Let's just I like to try a test run or whatever.
So he's holding my phone and he goes, let's just
text your mom right now. I can't remember what it was,

(01:04:27):
but he was holding the phone and the last text
exchange with my mom was like my full on vagina
and the poor apple guy just gets full shot, full
crop shot. And I was like, how did he handle it?
What did he say? Like literally acted like he didn't
see it. And I'm like, there's literally acted like he's like, oh, yeah,

(01:04:50):
it works perfect. There you go. How don't I say?
It's just like literally, yeah, it's working. Everything's yep. There
My mom was and I was like him, you delete
the conversation. But my mom doesn't delete conversations, you know
what I mean? Does everyone do that? I don't delete
conversations when you're getting crotch shots. I guess that would
be something that's not happened to me before. Yeah, I

(01:05:13):
guess I guess I would if I got a medical,
medically needed crot shot, I guess I would delete that conversation.
So if I had a boyfriend at the time and
he was like, why are there shot pictures of your
vagina on the phone, I would have been like, for
medical purposes? But it was a close up. This was
a picture in the mirror of him standing there. This

(01:05:36):
wasn't a close up of a like if he has
a problem with his junk, he's going to zoom in
on his junk. You're not gonna say, hey, dr here's
my whole body. If you just focus on my left one,
you'll see there's an issue down there. By the way.
Can you just like appreciate the fact that like this
would happened to me. That's totally like the dropbox situation,
totally like I was just like, of course, the nice
man Apple that's helping me with my phone has now

(01:05:58):
seen intimate parts of my body. He does that a
thousand times a day. And there's no vaginas you know.
And Thania walks in here. I am and we've told
this right before, but just real quickly, she plugged her
laptop uh into uh. She she plugged her phone into
her laptop, and so her phone automatically started uploading her

(01:06:19):
picture the dropbox. The dropbox that was shared by pretty
much everybody that works for I Heart Media Los Angeles,
so much so that the Internet in the building started
to slow down because so many gigs were being upladed
on so many computers all at the same time, right,
because that's our dropbox works. It puts the actual file
on your computer. So there's two d computers in the
building all uploading gig after gig after gig, four thousand photos,

(01:06:44):
a small fraction of which were her naked, and one
of the engineers saw that and put up a red
flag that we got a problem. To this day, I
heart media will no longer use Dropbox because of Tanya
Roddy is having on your rule rule. I thought that
was like anyone saw it but the engineer, but no,

(01:07:08):
he had to like, remember he showed it to Danielle,
who worked at the time, because my face wasn't in
them for some reason. The one that he had didn't
have my face reason. They were going to my boyfriend
at the time, So I don't know why my voice
face wasn't in it, but um he was like, can
you verify that this is Tanya's body? Yep, that's yeah,

(01:07:30):
good guess. On the engineers were training a new engineer.
We're showing him reasoning this weird dropbox knockoff, and he's like,
why don't you just using Dropbox? Well, yeah, so those
things happen to me. Then some day you won't work
here anymore thirty years down the line and they'll all
they'll all be told no, you may not use dropbox. Wow.

(01:07:55):
Honored to have that, Tim Tebow. We never commented on that.
You talked about it on the morning radio show, and
if you should, you should go to kids fm dot
com or on here with right dot com and here
Tanya's version of the One that Got Away Tim Tebow.
It expresses her thoughts perfectly, perfectly sums it up. You
know anything else you'd like? You know? Uh, what does

(01:08:16):
it say? I never thought ago because I never met you.
It's pretty good. Yeah, so you guys should check that out. Um.
But in all honesty, I'm very happy for him. We
love Tim Tebow and I do think that things I
did put him on my vision board in two thousand
seventeen because I do he embodies everything that I want

(01:08:38):
in a husband. So I wish him and his fiance
all the best. And I do believe that my husband
UM will have a lot of the traits like I
think when when my husband comes around, I think we
will be able to make similarities between him and Tim Tebow.
What's her name, Demi Lee? I believe it's her Demi Leine,
Demi lee. Um, she's gorgeous, stunning, the ring stunning. They

(01:09:01):
look so happy and you've not heard from her. No,
but I felt really bad for her because like their photo.
Then he posted on Instagram, I can't tell you, I
probably got maybe a thousand d ms and tags in
this in this photo. So if this girl looks at
like Tim, why has Tanya raged Betting tagged a thousand

(01:09:23):
times in our engagement announcement? I've never met the guy.
It's so good, Like, it's just too cool. I I
kind of hope that was their first fight. No, you
know what, she's probably so chill that she was probably like,
who what is this and then probably looked at me.
I was like, no, she looks fine, she's chill, all right,

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(01:10:26):
just about something I told her about it and she's like, oh,
that's cute. I wish you to said on the podcast.
And I was like, I know, I totally forgot, So
I have a cute story. Can we know a little
bit what it's about? What's the topic? Um? It was
like something about our friendship that brought me peace at
a moment that I was very anxious. That sounds awesome, Yeah, okay, great?

(01:10:47):
What else is coming up for you this week? And
big stuff? And you read carpets? Any dates? Oh, Mr Tippler,
Mr Tipler, I know, Mark Sooho, you might be coming
to Los Angeles? Um? Might people know if they're coming
across the country more than three days in advance? You
know what? That is a good point that I did

(01:11:07):
not think about expecting pushback there, and it just gave
right in. That is because we spoke last weekend and
I was like, Oh, when's the next time you're gonna
because he's like, when are you coming back to New York?
And I was like, when are you coming back home?
And he said maybe MLK, which is this weekend. Yes
it is, so I think get it heard by now. Yeah, cricket,
but you have something this weekend, don't you? The podcast

(01:11:29):
towards it? This weekend? There we go, yeah, because we're
going to get all glambed up. And so I was like,
I don't want to just get glambed to go to bed.
I'm gonna hit the town. Yeah, paint the town red.
I don't think it's gonna be yeah, could be, could be,
But I think it's a little late for that. You know,
maybe I will later tonight. Are you coming? Or you

(01:11:54):
don't want to desperate? You don't want desperate, Just just
make other plans. Yeah, all right, ready to call it. Wow,
that's the wrong one. Sorry, put the mouse right over
and teed you up for it. No, that's not it either.
Let's see. Let's try this one. Now, that's not that's
wine down. Let's see. Okay, ready, there it is. Okay,

(01:12:17):
that feels right. Time of death. She gone
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