It's Nice to Have a Friend with JoJo Fletcher

JoJo Fletcher is back in the O.R.! She gives us an EXCLUSIVE look at her “re-engagement” and we hear a crazy story about what happens when you take Tanya wedding dress shopping.

 

JoJo helps Becca and Tanya figure out the difference between being “exclusive” and “boyfriend/girlfriend”.

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, everybody ready, We're ready. Stick this on. You're
rubbing in with back a chilly and tak your back
and people's choices the podcast. Yeah, if you heard a
new voice in the intro, that was Joel Fletcher. I mean,

(00:22):
you know why so many people have been like, have
Jojo on the podcast? And I'm like, she's been on
the podcast. If you're an o G listener, just once
though I can't write it's just but it's not like
we haven't. You're a busy girl. I'm a busy girl.
But it feels good to be bad guys. I mean
there's something different about you. There's a sparkle. Sparkle guys.

(00:47):
What Um yeah, I don't even know how to talk
about it, but I do have any ring and I
kind of got re engaged yesterday two days ago. Um crazy,
it's so are you talking about how it happened? This
will be the first time I talked about maybe we

(01:10):
can get them exclusive guys. It was crazy. Um, So
you guys know, we went to look at wedding venues.
So I had made five appointments to different venues in California.

(01:30):
I've been planning this for like like a month. Whatever,
So in my mind, that's all we're doing. We go
to the first venue. It's really beautiful, it's great, We
get all the details, then we go to the next venue.
I just want to preface all this with letting you
know I started the day not thinking anything exciting was
going to happen, and so I did. I looked insane.

(01:53):
No you did. I saw you did. Not like insane. Okay, Anyways,
it was not how I wanted to look back, not
how I look the first time we got engaged. I
didn't have a gown on. Anyways, we're at this venue
and we're looking around and at this particular venue there's
a helicopter pad and that's where the ceremony happens. So cute,

(02:14):
so cute, so great. There's the girl who's giving us
a tour, and just Jordan I super private. It's a
private estate, so it's not your typical resort. We go
down to the helicopter pad and the ladies telling us
how many people you can see and Jordan's like kind
of on the outskirts of this helicopter bad and it's
like in the mountains, like you're like high up, and
I'm like asking, like Okay, so this looks really small,

(02:36):
like we're do the seats, so like, can you put
an arch here? In? Jordan's like, babe, just like taking
the view. This is amazing. I'm like it's great, babe,
It's like awesome, cool, But how many kinds stay here?
Because we have more than eighty and I don't know
if that's gonna work. Like mind is in total business mode.
He kind of reels me in and he's like, you know,
isn't it crazy that the Bachelor mansion is just like
a mile away from here. He's like where we first met.

(03:00):
It's like we can literally see the Bachelor Mansion. It's
like that is sweet, Like okay, and then like you know,
he just keeps saying sweet things and like I'm kind
of embarrassed at this moment because the girl the tour
guide is there, and so I'm like, okay, let's move on.
So sweet, but right now, you only have an hour here.

(03:20):
We gotta figure out details is gonna work? And then
you know, the moment, we're like you realized things have
gotten kind of weird and like something's happening. I always
used to make the joke I black out, like I
blacked out. I actually blacked out because I don't remember
anything else that he said. And then he got down
on one knee and he opened this box and it

(03:42):
was this ring, and I just it happened, and he
asked me to marry him again. And I don't remember
anything but the girl who was doing the tour at
a recording. It was like a shaky iPhone video. So
we have that, y'all. I been missing a lot of
major points. Like I said, I blacked out, but that's

(04:03):
kind of how it happened. Oh, but it was just
the best. Is this the first Bachelor? Is this the
first time this has ever been done? I mean I
feel like people get re engaged a lot on like
after the final rows or like you know, you saw
when I think there's a couple of people that got
re re engaged. No, Ben had proposed to Lauren again. Really,
I'm pretty sure he did. I've never seen this before. Yeah,

(04:24):
I'm no, No, it's I'm saying, like outside of Bachelor, Yeah,
no cameras, no nothing. Now, I don't know. I don't
think it was special. It was so romantic beyond and
it meant I mean, it meant so much. Well, he
texted me, so Tony and I met you for a
wedding dress shopping with your mom, your aunt and Jordan's

(04:45):
mom future mother in law and um. After that, Tony
and I went to dinner in Jordan texted me and
he was like, hey, UM, I am planning on reproposing
to Jojo on Saturday and it I have a photographer
set up, but I'm not sure if they're gonna be
able to do it. Do you know anyone? And I
was like, I like, literally all of a sudden, I

(05:06):
couldn't think of one photographer that I know. Yeah, I
got I got so excited. So I text my friend Jesse,
who I just like, try I love. I felt like
a lot of pressure with like recommending someone, so I
was like, I'm gonna recommend Jesse, and she's not She
wasn't in talent, and so then I was like and
then he kind of was like, I'm not sure if
I'm gonna you know, if things fall through, I'm not
sure I'm going to do it. So then I was

(05:27):
just in the state of limbo. And then you came
and stayed with me like the next night or whatever,
and I was just like, I don't say anything about anything.
I can't believe you knew. I can't believe the only
people that knew, I think were you, my parents, his parents,
and then I think his brother Luke and Amy, and
then my best friend from home, Catherine, But no one

(05:50):
else and my other brothers didn't know, my sister didn't know.
No one knew. And I can't believe you knew it.
Didn't say she's like a vault, she's a good poker face. Yeah, yeah,
I even like you. I like said, I like was
saying things that I didn't like to even never even
give you an idea that maybe he'd do it. Yeah,

(06:10):
you were good. I just think there's something so sweet
about like about a man on his own, like in
his own brain, being like I'm already engaged, I have
the woman of my dreams, like we're getting married, but no,
I want to do this on my own, like on
my own, with my own words, with no nothing around.

(06:33):
Like I just think there's something so romantic about that.
And it's like all the time as girls are sitting
here being like, oh, we're expecting too much, Like guys
just don't think like that. No, no they do, Yes, No,
I'm with you. I but I never expected it because like,
we had a beautiful ring that Neil gave us, right,
Jordan didn't have to go buy a new ring on

(06:53):
his own. We had a stunning ring. We had a
great first engagement. So I think that was the part
that meant more than anything, Like we already had a
really great first engagement. There was nothing that I ever
would have changed about it other than like, yes, it
was unconventional, but it was us so so yeah, the
fact that he like he wanted to do it before
we chose the venue, because he told me he wanted

(07:14):
me to feel that excitement of planning, because you know,
we did get engaged three years ago, and so most
people get engaged and they jumped right into planning, and
so he's like, it was just really important that before
we got married, before we actually dove into the wedding planning,
that I did this and I did it our way
and in the way that I've always wanted to do
it and the way that I think you deserve. And
it was like, wow, I never thought about that. It's

(07:38):
so and it's so fun to talk about your wedding
because for so long, for three years, it's been like
when are you getting married. When are you getting married?
Like literally, even when I go and do like interviews anywhere,
it's like, have you heard anything about Joe John Jordan's
like crickets? I hope I'm still in it. It's been

(08:00):
for years, I know. And it's like, I wouldn't change
that for the world. Totally did everything in our own
time and clearly in our own way, and I think
some people were really doubted us, and that's okay, like whatever,
but I wouldn't change that, Like the three years we
needed that they were growing years they were the first
year was painful, like they was. There was growth, but

(08:23):
there was pain and there was a lot, but I
feel like we needed that time and we needed to
grow and like now I'm like over the moon beyond
like ready. So it was perfect for us, like I think,
and I think more people are starting to talk about,
like people who have been on the Bachelor or Bachelor
that are still with their the person that they chose,

(08:44):
that they taught, they're finally starting to say that first
year was really hard, and it is like it makes
sense because you meet and then you're engaged and then
it's like we're here, We're and I think it's interesting too,
because I know that everyone that comes off that show
that first year, you don't want to show that there's trouble.

(09:08):
You don't want to let people know that you're struggling.
And so that first year we actually kept that very private.
We didn't even share it with our family, our family members, Like,
I think I talked to you back a few times
about it, but like, obviously you don't want to share
with your family members, like you don't want them to
know that the times were really tough and things are happening,
because you don't want that judgment, let alone everyone on

(09:29):
social media. And so we kept that secret. But I
think what was really sort of like a moment for
us is when we actually started to talk about it publicly,
and like talking about it publicly and being very transparent,
I feel like has allowed people coming off that show
now to be okay with that and to be open
about the struggles, because there's nothing wrong with struggling if

(09:49):
you're if if you grow, I think from it, and
I don't know. So, yes, it was very tough, and
three years ago we wouldn't who knows what we didn't know,
We didn't know if we'd be here today. We wanted
to be. We didn't know, but now we know. Did
you have a moment? I know because I remember when
you all bought the house. You'll just you all announce

(10:10):
that y'all bought a house. And then literally about a
week or so later, you texted Tony and I and
you're like, hey, I'm coming out to go wedding rush shopping.
And it was like, oh, things are moving. Things of
escalated quickly. I don't like you asking me when there
was a moment of being like, okay, this is it's time. Well,
I remember Jordan's brother, Luke had gotten married in the summer.

(10:32):
It was like Luke and Amy had gotten married and
we're at the wedding and there was a moment we
were dancing and like, I mean, we've always talked, like
in the last year, we've talked about our wedding, Like
it hasn't anything that we have not talked about, but
they're never with a definitive like let's start planning. But
at that wedding, there was this moment where Jordan kind
of just like looked to me and he had this
weird sort of look and he just like, I am

(10:55):
so ready to marry you, Like I like, let's do this,
and I was like, oh my god, like feels you know,
nice music in the background. We're feeling it. It was
and we had just gotten through filming cash Pad, which
was a true test to our relationship, working together, starting
a business together, filming a show together. Yeah, I mean
like there was a lot and like we soared through

(11:16):
that somehow, and like I had the best time ever.
So I feel like like it's time. Like things that
happened that moment, man, three years in the making, we're
here now, it's time. So sweet of cash Pad. It's
so good, so good, guys, it's so good. And I
don't mean to toot my own horn, but but listen,

(11:39):
I am so proud of what we did with those
projects and the fact that, like I don't know if
people even know, Like I don't know if your listeners
even want y'all should be watching cash Bad, But if
you don't know, it's We go around basically the country
we've kind of limited actually not the country, Texas and Arizona,
and we team up with homeowners that have this really

(12:00):
sort of maybe unique property or something attached to their property,
and we turn them into airbnbs, and we do it
in a week, and you'll know, like I do this
for a living, but it takes me months to do it.
But we turned these places into crazy vacation rentals and
Jo and I together, like it was the most fun
we ever had, the funniest, most stressful, but it's awesome.

(12:23):
Like I'm so so proud of everything. I just felt
so proud when I watched it, because you know, you
have these shows and and then there's editing and you're like,
what is it going to I just woke up early.
I wish I'll could see her face right now. I
just like, I just really love love stories, and I

(12:44):
just think it's just so like it's just this isn't
really love story. This is cash Path. But like I
feel like working with your significant other that's like a
whole another level of intimacy. That cry, it's amazing. She's tired.
But you do legitimately love the show because you menage
it with Ryan and Sissy from The Secret loves it too,

(13:05):
and they but you both mentioned it on the show.
Will there be another season? Fingers crossed? I mean I
think this is like season one. They're testing the water.
Everyone watched Cash Pad. It really comes down to if
people are watching it. So, um, we have like what
are we on this city? We have three more episodes
left and so hopefully we find out if there there
will be a season. I'm trying to think of the
last time a show on CNBC ever got on my radar,

(13:26):
and I can't think of any except for cash Pad
in ten years. It's a very unique network. So um yeah,
that's it's amazing. I'm very proud of it, whether or
not there is a season two, Like I'm I'm so
happy with how everything turned out, and it was the
greatest experience in my life. And we'll continue to do
this whether we're being filmed or not. Um, So it's
a part of our life. So it's cool. You know.

(13:47):
I'm thinking about higher and you all. I want to
get like an Airbnb and flip it and put it
somewhere cool. So I'm going to reach outthing else, Just
reach out here. I'm here for me, and you know
what we'll need when or like putting an airbnb together,
getting it all together for people to come, We're gonna
need some good mattresses that transilatefre we go into the mattresses.

(14:12):
I want to get back to something that happened. An
amazing transition. I love the transition we're gonna I want
to go back to the wedding dress shopping because Beckett
did something to me that literally made me like sweat
for probably a good twenty minutes. Okay, yeah, we'll do
that after um. The beds that I would put in
a an Airbnb that I renovated or had Jojoe and

(14:32):
Jordan renovate would be the Sleep Number three sixty smart bed.
Do you want to know why? Why? Well, when was
the last time you slept really great? It's been a minute.
What's what is my allergies? To be honest, But okay, well,
isn't it strange like we'll try anything to sleep better
when it could just actually be time for new mattress? Yeah?
I feel like that's the case for a lot of people.

(14:54):
And if you are getting the quality sleep you deserve,
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That's what the sleep number bed is famous for. You

(15:15):
can adjust each side so it's just right for both
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day and the commercial came on and it showed how
you can like elevate one side or if someone snoring
next to you can lift them up without them even
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(15:38):
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(16:00):
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(16:23):
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(16:43):
When I travel, it's sometimes hard. Sometimes hotels don't have
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(17:04):
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(17:26):
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(17:49):
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(18:10):
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(18:37):
so can I start stay on your light love life?
Telling you we've been talking about me, but I feel
like there's a lot to talk about. Yes, but before
so we go. We are on our way to meet
you to try on You're trying on your wedding dresses.
This is a big deal, big deal, and so that
could text me the night before and she's like, what
are you gonna wear? And I was like, I don't know,

(18:57):
like workout clothes, Like I didn't I truly didn't know.
I don't care where you are, right, I didn't think anything.
And then bed I was like to our wedding dress shop.
I was like, okay, I'll put on jeans and like
a cute shirt or something. So I get already and
I'm wearing this shirt that has like sunflowers on it,
and I'm like tom makeup on, Like I'm like, thank you.
And I walked outside back and comes to pick me

(19:17):
up and she looks at me and she was did
you say, are you wearing that? No? I didn't know that.
I okay, No, I did not say. She keeps telling
people this, so people probably think I'm the biggest jerk.
She walks out in a white top as we're going
wedding shopping, white and had sun flowers on it, but
it was white and I couldn't see the sunflowers at first.

(19:39):
So she walks up and I'm just like I could
write out her face. I don't know what the rules
are here. So then I was like, I was like,
she said something like what, and I was like, your
shirts white? And then I panicked because I did have
that thought. And then I panicked in my head and
I was like, should go upstairs and changed. I like,
already late, so she's like you can't. I was like,

(20:00):
maybe there's a store right by the wedding dress, and
then we start Googlingbecco is like, just google it, let's
see if it's like a faux pause. I'm like, happened?
And then what are we doing? Just make a joke
about Jojo won't care about make a joke when you
see her about it. Yeah, I was just like if
anyone doesn't care, But there are brides who are like,
but you know, but I said that, but still it's

(20:21):
like wedding drug, you know. It's like I know. And
then I was like, what a dummy, Tanya, Like, you
don't wear white to go wedding dress shopping with somebody.
Here's the thing. Tanya would text me if we were
going to a funeral and I'd pick her up and
she'd have like hot pink one because she just doesn't
she's just like I felt cute. I actually actually got

(20:43):
so many d m when people ask me where that
top was from. It from Zara. There you go, people.
But it's funny because I've been told and I even said,
I was like, Jojo is not going to care. If
anyone's not gonna care, it's gonna be Jojo. But I've
been to weddings or like wedding events where the bride's
like where anything except for why totally? Yeah? Literally, and

(21:05):
then you could not have cared less. And I felt
like such a moron that I literally was like sweating,
like the whole drive over there, just been like, oh,
it's fine whatever, But I was nervous. Would you care, Tania?
I think about that. I don't either, But now that
I think about it, that's sweet. But I don't care maybe,

(21:26):
but it's good to think about because, like you says
some people, I think for people to know, maybe because
I say something about that day of us. So we're
at this store trying on dresses and there's like a
bunch of tiaras and like random things there, and I'm
like in the room trying on my dress, and I
come out and Tania has like a full blown tier

(21:48):
on her head and I'm like, what's It's amazing, that's great.
And then the next thing, you know, my aunt has one.
So the two single ladies in my thing are wearing
this tiara and they're just saying it's gonna be it's
my jojo ju you. Yeah, I need to know. Has
did the jojo juju of wearing that tr all day
prompt any sort of progress in your dating life? I

(22:09):
think I have the jojo juju. She texted me, by
the way, when I was looking for venues and she's like,
I need all the details, like you gotta let me
know which ones are clue. I was like, is the
jojo juju? Like? Are we already playing? Are we playing
the wedding already? To Mr my Notes page, Yeah, miss
in your Butterfly, that's what we're going with. Their first
kiss was to Casey Musgrave's butterflies, huge, super cute. It's

(22:35):
time nicknames so so good. By the way, we went
out to dinner on Friday night and we were leaving
the restaurant and I think we're holding hands or some
sort of touching and this lady like kind of like
weighs me down. And I didn't know if I like

(22:56):
a knew her or something. So I stopped at her
table and I was like, Hi, a gabra hug and
she's like, because I didn't know, I like I met
her or something, and she was like, I listened to
the morning show and I listened to the podcast. She
listened to both, and she was like, I just I
love you and is this is this the new guy? Yeah,
she's like your butterfly And I was like, I'm literally

(23:18):
dying right now. He was so cute about it. He
came over and like I told her his real name
and introduced her to him, and he was really cute
about it. But she was so cute. So why we
named him Senior Butterfly. That's why we named him was
made out to Musgragh. Senior was just like, yeah, like
I was spanning, we don't know my TV d on that. Yeah,

(23:48):
we haven't gotten information. True, true, but the Senor was
just to like make it different. I love that so
that you had your day, had her day, held hands.
We held hands. How many days now? It's been a lot,
a lot, four or five five dates and some hangouts.
And I heard that he napped at your place. Got

(24:11):
a cute little picture of her with him. Nothing actually
datime now very intimate, that's what I thought. That's very so.
So here's the thing. I like, I just want to
see him at all times. It's really weird because I
have not been like this in a very long time.

(24:32):
So can I see the photo? Becca? Do you care
if I share the photo with me? I don't know,
but we can't put that anywhere. It's like so creepy.
Actually it's kind of creepy napping. It's just his hat,

(24:52):
but he's laying there. You you weren't happy, You're just
being creepy and taking photos of him laying next to
you sleeping next year, all right, So what are you doing?
And she was like, oh, I'm watching shows and um
signor came over to watch the shows with me, and
he fell asleep because he's had a long weekend. Did
you fall asleep. Ever, No, I was like, just I
was like in it. So I basically took my whole

(25:14):
weekend to just do watch all these shows and do
stuff prepping for the Emmy's and so um, I was like,
it actually benefited me that he fell asleep because I
could actually pay attention because whenever he's around, I just
want to kiss him and look at him. That is
that shows such a comfort level on his end. Like
that's major. I feel like, I know it was really

(25:35):
like whatever you are. He's just like whatever, it's fine.
He's like normal and cool, and I'm like chill, cool girl,
and yeah, it's fine. We're slope. We're slow playing it.
But it's so okay. I know we're slow playing it.
But five dates, at what point is this a relationship?
I don't you know? What's so funny? Sara asked me
the same thing. She's like, so you guys are like
exclusively dating now, and I was like, but we're not,

(25:57):
because that's like a conversation, right, But if someone else
asked you out, would you go on a date? That's
the question. I feel like, go ahead. Someone's trying to
set me up with somebody else currently, and I like
don't know what to tell her. She's already told him
to slide into your DM. I was like, here's a
better question. If you found out through the grapevine that
last night he was out with a different woman, how

(26:18):
would that make you feel? I'd be bummed. So there
we have it. You'd be bummed. But would you be no,
you feel like you would have to ask that. No,
I would. I would be revengeful. But that's not my
place because he's not my boyfriend, so he technically could
be doing whatever he wants right now. Okay, I would
just like to say if this or me, I'd be
so upset because I'm like territorial ones, I like somewhere,

(26:41):
and I think it's time. I don't know if it's
time for a conversation, but I think it's time to
stop seeing other people. Right. But that's a conversation, right, Yeah,
I think that's a conversation. So are you going to
have the conversation? I mean, that's so uncomfortable. I never
had a conversation. It was just understood, but was understood. Scary,

(27:06):
But at what point was it understood? Like scorpio things
came out on the clause right now? Yeah, that's a
great question. When when when was it understood like a weekend? Yeah,
but I think that's normal. Obviously this was a long
time ago, twenty two years ago with my wife, but
I feel like it was understood once we went out
a couple of times we weren't going to go see

(27:26):
other people and we never had to talk about that.
The same times have changed, but there they have, but
they all there are situations where it is like mine
and yours. Plus we also discussed on the help Us
Second Dating podcast last week that there is where you
are now, Tanya. Then there's the exclusive talk and that

(27:47):
comes before the boyfriend girlfriend talked. Those are two separate conversations.
I'm told, Yes, I disagree. I think that's really very exclusive.
Your boyfriend girlfriend know what, I would the ideal thing
for you would be if he asked you to be
his girlfriend and you skipped the exclusive talk, like, oh,
just go straight In the difference, listen, Joe meets their

(28:10):
significant ding boyfriend my engage the first time I had
got another baith life. But it is true there these
are like weird conversations and I think, I mean, I

(28:32):
think on my end, I'm not going to bring it
up right, why not modern woman because like, let's just
modern woman is also confident and just going with just
so wish we could understand where his head was at,
like why he likes her, like the text that I

(28:53):
hear about are really you? I? And may maybe it's
because he has a similar sense of humor as so,
like I under I like laugh at what he says,
and I'm like, that is really cute. They do you
guys have a very similar sense of humor. I'm just saying,
out of all the guys that Tony has dated, I

(29:14):
don't think that any of them have been as like
attentive and like kind and thoughtful as he has, at
least through texting. Doesn't he listen to this? No he should, No,
I can really spark the conversation what he knows does
and no, actually one of his best friends does there

(29:35):
you go? Maybe it'll spark it for girl I was
dating at a podcast when she talks for an hour
about her relationship. I think I told him not to,
but even more so that my argument. No, but he's
so respectful. He's like, I'm not go. If you don't
want me to, I'm not going to. And I was like, look,
I'm not going to ever say you can't do anything,
but I just think, like, these are conversations that I

(29:56):
have with my girlfriends, and it's like it's not for
the person i'm dating to hear. But so I have
this conversation. I said, if someone said please don't listen,
I'm like, of course I won't. Scrubbing in with my head.
I hit my head three times on his microphone, but

(30:17):
I keep laughing so exactively. Okay, so here's the way
determined Jojo and I guess it wasn't help I second dating.
It was the podcast, but they all run together. Um
that that boyfriend girlfriend's a major conversation, and there becomes
a point before that will be rude to see someone else,
and that's when you have that conversation, and then the
boyfriend girlfriend is a more serious conversation. That partment confused me.

(30:39):
I feel like that those are two in the same.
Literally got uncomfortable and I will not say her name,
but coworker mind was like, I have this great guy,
he's super into you. You got mad, we know, would
you just because because I was like, I'm kind of
like this this guy, and that's a that's a great sign. Right,
because because the thing is, if you go out with

(31:02):
someone else, you're going to either be feeling thinking about
him the whole time, or you're gonna be feeling like
a weird like guilt a little bit, I think because
you know where you're feelings. And let me just tell
you from going through the experience of dating multiple people
at once, like it really puts you in a bad place.
If you start to like both, yeah, I need that
you do that, and then the one that you actually

(31:22):
really really like it starts to get muddy. It's not good.
I've never been the girl that can date multiple people
at once. I've never been that way. But she's like,
just meet him, just talk to him, Like that seems
like a slippery slow what does because it's a setup.
It's not like you meet somebody randomly and talk to them.
It's it's not a chance meeting. You're respecting him the
way that you expect to be respecting, and that's how

(31:45):
you should continue on with this relationship. That's a That
was some good advice advice. Did everyone hear that? That's listening?
Treat people you respect, to treat people with the respect
that you want to return. Yeah, that's good. Uh yeah,
I think it'd be sad. I feels like I'm going
to take someone else out tonight. I like you're feeling, well,

(32:06):
what's next this weekend? Already you guys have already said
another date. It doesn't leave me without like knowing when
he's going to see me next senior senior, And even
if you don't know what we're doing, he's always like, okay,
you're free that night, Like hang great, But it's that

(32:30):
a weekend, like there's something happening this weekend, that's spending
the weekend together. We might because the first weekend that
neither one of us have, Like every weekend each one
of us has had like something where like I was
in Sandigo than he was in San Diego. I have
a question, and I was talking to back about this
in the way up here. When is it okay? When
is it time to introduce each other to your friends?

(32:51):
And like does that make it more official or does
that sort of make it more platonic, like because I
know some people like, oh, I'll just take him in
a group with my friends and it will be more
chill and not so much pressure. I think differently. I
think once you introduce them into your friend's circle, Like
that's a that's a big step. I think if the
first day, if you're like I'm gonna do a group setting,
that makes it more less pressure, and I think that

(33:14):
does make it more platonic. I think if you've been
dating for a while and then you're like, it's time,
I want you to meet my friends, that's when it's
like waiting for your weekend too, when it needs to
be like, oh, that could be so he's met one
of my UM. I was out to dinner with one
of my girlfriends, Raquel, and he came um and met

(33:36):
us after dinner and then like my friend Roquelle left,
So he actually has already met one of my friends.
But have you met any of his on occasion outside
of the wedding. No. I met some of his friends
on FaceTime over the weekend. He was with them and
we FaceTime, so that was cute. They were all lovely. UM.
But No, I feel like that's always an interesting dynamic
how the person plays into your inner circle and what

(33:58):
that looks like, because that could be like a huge
like push forward or can I tell you The thing
I like about this guy is that I kind of
feel like I could put him in every situation and
he would thrive. Like he's kind of just like a
really easy to get along with kind of guy. That's great.
I feel like that too, and so are you. I
can't imagine being with somebody that you would have to

(34:19):
babysit and like worry about, because you can make friends
with like a door knob, and so I feel like
you need somebody who's kind of like that. He's kind
of like that. Just thinking about on the treadmill with
her eyes and mouth open, looking at everything. If I
got a good song in my headphones and I'm like
jamming on the treadmill, I will literally look around and

(34:40):
be like I love that. Should we should we dive
into maybe what you'd be listening to at the gym
this week? Oh yeah, let's get to that next. Okay,

(35:04):
shall we talk about an album that came out recently.
Let's give it up for Taylor Slow who Wow Wow.
I know, like this is when so many words why
to get out of tiny mouth. At the same time
that she has a hard time, she buffers. I really

(35:24):
have a hard time because I just feel like this
is such a cohesive, like slash beautiful, slash, love centric
piece of work. It feels. How was that I got
the ice going and sell the judge in this setting
that everyone watching me sit on my last day, this
is when we can hear it. I wouldn't have known

(35:45):
except the Mike girls got to caffeinate herself for these
um so I feel the same way it. I just
felt like it was going to come out because it's
weird because her singles didn't. They were good, they were
at you, they were fun like we obviously danced to
me like no one was watching, and they were good.

(36:05):
But the album is just that's how Taylor does it.
She'll like release some of the like and then you
get the album and you're like, these are the ones,
like those are the nuggets, and they're not always the singles.
Give me your top three, so okay. So I like
to when I get an album, I like to listen
to it from top to bottom, the way that the
artist intends us to listen to it. So I really

(36:27):
So I started out with number one with UM forget
You for I forgot Forgot. So I started out with
number one, I Love That one. Blown Away went to
number two, Summer blown Away went to three. Lover then
I got to then I got to the Man and
I was done. I was like, I am done. This

(36:49):
album has like peaked, and so I would keep I
kept going back to number one and I would listen
to those on repeat before I continued on. So I
would have been very satisfied. It's so true the top
four the first word so strong, so strong, and I
don't get me wrong, Number five Archer was still as fantastic.
But the Man is like when it peaked for me,

(37:10):
and I was just like, I feel seen. I feel
so proud that Taylor put that song out, Like I
just I want the video to be like a movement.
I wanted to be just like I feel like she's
saying everything. I feel like what she stands for is
so prolific and she's so empowering, and it's just like
the song just was so encompassing of everything that I
feel right now, and I just like, that's my favorite.
The LEO mentioned is awesome, is so good. And then

(37:32):
I feel like this weird sense of pride were you
going down to the lyrics and seeing like if Taylor
wrote the song on her own, Like if I said
written by Taylor Swift, I'd be like I'm so proud
she did that one all on her own, and that
song is oh yeah, and that came that came from
a place of like I need to say something totally.
So I have a question because I've only really Okay,

(37:54):
don't get mad at me for saying, okay, okay, right,
So what is this album about? If only listened to
like one song on the first roe, I mean major
the theory that it's about. I mean, does it is
this album like encompassing a phase in her life that's
like happening? Like what is this like her being in love?

(38:14):
Like I love the struggle she's gone through and works
old relationships, so many weddings like wedding or her mom generally. Yeah,
the Mom's song. Oh man, she wrote a song about
her mom's health issues and the cancer. I didn't know.
Oh my god, it's just called and you just cry,
like the first verse. It's just so an idol that
Dixie Chicks. Oh my gosh. I've only listened to it

(38:38):
one time through. I can't do it. I skip, but
I can't do it. Okay, I'm gonna have to listen
to after. It's hard. It's really hard. I have Billboard
ranked the eighteen songs from eighteen to one if you're
interested your opinions. So number eighteen is London Boy, which
I think you agreed was not your favorite, and also
Billboard is not favorite. You're making face so justified by
we've seen. Okay, seventeen is me yeah, because they said

(39:00):
was it doesn't quite fit. It doesn't wanted me to
be at the end. It doesn't without Yeah, it's not
the vibe. Sixteen Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prints. That
one actually grew on me a little bit more. Listen
to it. That one I don't. I don't. I mean
at first listen, I wasn't crazy about it, but it
grew on me. Fifteen is I think he knows. Yeah,

(39:20):
short not my favorite. Number fourteen this surprise, millim were fourteen.
I forgot that you existed. That seems long. Agree heavily, heavily.
That's in my top three. Yeah, thirteen after Glow. Okay,
twelve of the Man. Now, I know you're going to
have a problem with that now, And I'm who wrote that.

(39:41):
The name of the person that wrote that, Bill Jason, Jason,
what's his last name? His last name is lip Shuts.
Of course, Jason lip Shuts does not like the song
of the Jason lip Shuts. I was thinking that, yet
he likes it that by the way, I think they
really like this out he's been he said, He said

(40:02):
this biting look at gender dynamics within the industry and
celebrity Culturescorse points for its rye humor and honest perspective.
It's also just a complete jam. So how's it? Twelve twelve?
There's a lot of good ones. I feel like Jason
lip Shuts has probably heard shut your lips so many times.
I feel I feel lame that I even said it,

(40:23):
so I apologize. He's probably heard his whole life, and
here I am triggering, but I got passionate. Number ten
is oh sorry. Number eleven is paper rings lower than
I expected for paper rings. See, I would have put
that definitely lower than the main forgot the smash. It's cute,
t is the archer. Can I be honest? Paper rings

(40:45):
meant more to me before I saw JoJo's ring. You
don't want a paper ring anymore. The line of the
song is I don't need fancy things. I'd marry you rings.
So that's the idea. It's a great sentiments out the
window now. Number nine is Death by a Thousand Cuts surprising.

(41:06):
I can't even think about how that one goes. It's
death by thousand, Okay, I kind of like that one.
Number eight is Cornelia Street Love Cornelian three for me,
you've had about seven songs. You're that's not incorrect, man, exist, Man,
I start got the US in cornelis number seven. You
need to calm down. Okay, okay. Number six soon you'll

(41:31):
get better. Number five Lover, that's a good one. That's
in my top three. Yeah, that's gonna be a wedding song.
Number four It's Nice to Have a Friend is number four.
That's a sweet song. But I love the arch of it.
It tells a little story. Yeah, like me and Phoebe.
I feel like Number three is False God, which tiny
is a fan of dude. That one is my favorite yesterday. Yeah.

(41:55):
Number true is Cruel Summer, which there are rumors that's
the next single who Know and the number one song.
According to Jason Daylight, it's a grand finale that encapsulate
much of what precedes it. It's true. It's a great
song to end the album. She always has that though.

(42:18):
Um but like her ending with clean was so beyond Yeah,
she like she likes when I send her songs, but
like she's not one to get into a whole album
like like we I and I really only do this
with Taylor, like because her lyrics and like their stories,
and she hypes it up and so you're so excited

(42:38):
to hear every song. I listened to it three times
from one to eighteen. I skipped me but one to seventeen,
basically three times in one day. Oh, I didn't like
three and like Friday, how he does that? Though she
listened to one song, I repeat and drive to Orange
count Yeah, I've been in there when I have to say,

(43:01):
Taylor is the only artist that I'll do this with,
Like I listened to her album but thank twice on Friday.
Like my favorite guy of all times, Bruce Bringsteen. He's
my favorite datist of all time. He hadn't have more recently,
barely got on my radar, but when this thing came out,
I was all over it. Okay, so I have a
lot of questions. So she wore this Dunham jacket on
the cover of Entertainment Weekly with like all these little
like Easter rug clues. Okay, and we got like the Drake.

(43:22):
She mentioned Drake in one of the songs. Um, there's
a lot of the like buttons came to fruition Dixie Chicks.
She has a song with Dixie Chicks. But there's a
lot of buttons on there that I still don't have
answers to that I'm very curious about, Like the Selena
Gomez button, the Friends cast Christina, Oh nice, she has Christina.

(43:44):
She had Christina and Meredith Yang on a button and
her cat is married like he's the guys. I don't
know any of my good jojo. I love her music.
When I hear it, I'm okay, alright, album, It's not
my place to stake anymore. No, this is probably this
is probably like normal human over here, and just like

(44:04):
stands what she took another sip. Is that like a
rule of them here? You just know? I mean, there
was a lot there was a Game of Thrones pin
that we're not sure what that references. Maybe that's the
man like the King and the Throne, law and order.

(44:27):
I mean, she has a cat named Mariska Harget, doesn't
she Yeah, yeah she does. It's named Olivia Benson, Mr Rogers.
That could be to have a friend too, you know, yeah,
maybe they're all about a friend. Becca. We got an
email from Brooke who's asking you if you knew anything
about Lover prior to release because your friend Haley is

(44:49):
in the squad. I knew very little, but I did
know some entail, but I have to respect, like that's
not really my friendship. Really, Taylor very kind and I
have met her, but I don't want to, like, you know,
cross boundaries understood. But now that it's out, did you
know anything before the rest of us? Yeah, like song titles. No,

(45:11):
no song titles and like literally barely any nothing. Like
I knew like some dates and that was it, but
like song droppings some things. Yeah, they might not like
song droppings. She's trying to stay in the inner circle,
trying to make sure the inner circle, Like you have
a connection to the inner circle, so you're trying to
maintain I can't even like say that I have an

(45:31):
inn because it's like, you know, I just respreend friends
of friends counts, totally counts, totally counts. Yeah, I dropped
when that happen one of the loud zips, damn it,
we watch I'm gonna drink my coffee right now and
it's still gonna be hot. Oh that's impressive. Is that

(45:55):
water in there? Yeah, that's a lemon in it. You
have to always ask what'since ide? Tanya? Has she pete
in hers in the car? So? Okay? To she was sacrificed.
Did y'all see that drip on me this whole time? No? No, no,
I did not appropriate. It's not I don't know what

(46:21):
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(46:42):
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(47:02):
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(47:22):
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(48:50):
that video. Are we gonna do some email? We're gonna
have some nice emails? Um, this woman anonymous, I don't
know why she's Oh yeah, you do know now that
I see this year old mom of two kids three
and five. I'm just recently getting out of a toxic
six year marriage to a narcissistic alcoholic. Now that I'm
navigating left at my own, I'm ready to find my
Becca slash Tanya. All my friendships have been surface level,

(49:11):
and I would love to have more genuine friends in
my life. I got pregnant at nineteen, so I've never
been able to experience going out to the bars or
having any sort of life outside a marriage and kids.
How can I start making friends and putting myself out there?
I love this. I'm so sorry um that your marriage ended,
but I'm so happy you're out of a toxic relationship

(49:31):
and I'm proud of you for getting out of it
because a lot of people never get out of it. Um,
you're so young, I know. UM. I feel like we
get this question a lot about a lot of people
are like after college, if I'm if I'm not working
or I'm not in an environment where I meet people,
how do I make friends as an adult? Um, that's

(49:53):
a good question. It is, Yeah, I don't even really know.
I don't know. It's hard. It is hard because all
of my friends when I think about our friends from
when I was in my early twenties, or the people
I work with, and nothing nothing else. So I'll tell
you how i'd like to do it. When you click

(50:17):
with someone because you do things like I think a
lot of time people say, oh, they just go to
work and then they go home, but it's like you
live your life, so it's like when you're at work,
or you're at a work event, or you're at the
gym or you're the grocery store, Like you meet people.
If you meet somebody that you kind of like hit
it off with, Like I remember when I met you,
I was like, oh, like we could be friends. Oh
I did not feel that for me. And then you

(50:40):
have laser into somebody and then you like yeah, you
like make plans and then you follow through with the plans,
like let's get coffee or like let's get lunch or something.
You make a plan and then you just stick to it.
That's so important. Actually it's a good point because you know,
I'm in Dallas right now and all of my close
friends from Dallas have moved away, and so Jordan I
kind of are trying to bind another circle at home

(51:03):
and we're building a new house. And one of the
girls that lives next to me, I actually met her
at the dog part and we had the best conversation,
and I was like, Wow, this is somebody that I
could And normally I'm like, I'm not a type of
person asked for a phone number, but I did. I
asked for her number. I was like, we'll be neighbors,
and I feel like that's going to be a friendship
that will continue to grow, which I'm super excited about.

(51:23):
But normally I would never do that totally, but I
think it's like what you said, pursuing a relationship that
maybe you feel like it's a little kind of weird
to pursue, but totally, Like I moved into this apartment complex.
I knew nobody in my apartment complex, and I left
notes on everybody's door with like little candies, And now
I have like a couple of friends in my apartment complex,
like truly. I mean they're not like best friends by
any means, but like they're awesome and I live next

(51:45):
to them, and like you just have to open the door.
And then when you find someone that you really like
align with you just like laser focus in or she
how how old are her kids or like or any
of the other parents, and you know that she could
you know, I'm sure there's it doesn't matter how old
you are, Like a friend's a friend meeting other parents
with a similar interests, you have children that can play together.
That's just something. I think. The thing, though, is that

(52:08):
she's not married anymore so now she's kind of wanting
to like have that social life that she didn't have
early twenties. You know what I did with Tanya. I
knew that she wasn't like really into me when I
first met her, you know, as a friend so focused
she's lying because I remember how I felt when I
first met her, and it wasn't that she wanted to
be friends with me. So I was like, I'm just

(52:31):
going to act nonchalant like around her, and she's going
to try and hang out and I'm just gonna be like, oh, yeah, sure,
come over if you want. And so I played like this,
like whatever, yeah, and then she would like just try
and barge into my apartment whenever she tried to slow
plate you. You did not allow it. I didn't. How
did it feel to be laser focused on I'm content,
I'm still it hasn't stopped. It feels good, it feels consistent.

(52:57):
I never think like I'm only I never feel lonely,
but it is. I mean, it's so important to have friends,
and like it's so important because I had to tell
you when I was in my longest relationship that I
was ever in, I dropped everything for him, like truly
everything and when I got out of that relationship, I

(53:19):
was like, I literally felt like my world had been
turned upside down. I didn't have friends, I didn't have
like anything, And so I think it was at that
point where I was like, I my friendships to me
are always going to be. I don't say they'll be
more important than my relationship will be, but like on
an equal playing field, for sure, it's I just I
listened to this Ted talk and it was healthy and
unhealthy relationships, like the boundaries, because it kind of is

(53:42):
a fine line of like we're all human, we all
are territorial, and we get jealous, but there is a
there is too much jealousy. And one of the things
was like, of course you want to hang out with
your significant other all the time, Like the reason you're
dating is because you love spending time together. But the
healthy bald jree is when you make plans with your friends,
you keep those plans, and you intentionally have time with

(54:05):
those people that were there before your significant other game.
And I was like, that's so true because it's so easy.
You're good at that. Yeah, yeah, you give me a
lot of time. I don't feel like I'm lacking in
Becca time. I also think it has to do with
your partner to somebody that promotes you have understanding those
relationships and like, but like her question is how do

(54:26):
you meet people at this phase of life? And I
think a lot of people would say church, Yeah, if
you're not religious, I think you maybe intramural sports, um,
And then like you said, things where there's other kids
there because you're not the only single mom, you're not
the only person who's divorced with kids, and you're going

(54:48):
to find someone who you connect to, maybe even specifically
for that reason. Oh yeah, Like I have gym friends.
Yeah the gym, Yeah, I only see them in my classes.
Those are pretty what basic jumping off of what you said, Tanya,
I think if your goal is to make new friends
and maybe depending on what your personality is, like you know,
the next time you go to a coffee shop and

(55:09):
maybe you see someone that's sitting alone engage in a conversation.
You never know if you're going to click with somebody,
But put yourself out there in a way that allows
relationships to potentially form. So I mean everyone goes to
coffee shops, everyone goes to grocery stores, everyone goes to
you know who whatever, but putting yourself out there just
for a relationship friendship purpose. I think you can go

(55:29):
to like your Okay, this is like so so creeper,
but like kind of smart. If you go to your
favorite spots in town tagged on Instagram and then see
who post pictures like if you really like to go
to berries or if you really like to go to
like to like the people going now, and then you
can like DM them Oh yeah, okay, I'd wait to
actually cut it off. After what Jojo said and like that,

(55:53):
I always take it. Just like when we were letting
go shopping, you were like, should we all oh yeah,
oh yeah, because we thought was when they thought we
found the dress, and so I was like, should we
all like do a giant hug around the dress? Was
like no, just like done. She's like no like that.
At that point, I was like, okay. By the way,

(56:14):
the issue with your kids friends parents, it goes one
of two ways. One is you love the parents. And
we had this with one of my daughter's friends. Parents
are great, used to hang out all the time. Well
they grew apart to the daughters. No fault of anyone
today is kind of wet in different paths, and so
now we never get to see the parents anymore because
the kids don't hang out anymore, and it's awkward now
that they're teenagers. They'd be like, it'd be weird to

(56:35):
throw them together. And then the other way is the
kids are really getting along with his other kid, and
then you get with their parents, you're like, oh, I
guess we're gonna be spending a lot of time together
now that their besties. Okay, you never know what you're
gonna get your thrust together. It's true. But also she
doesn't have to find people who have kids, like if
she's at a workout class, that she doesn't have to
be friends because she's looking for something outside of her

(56:59):
Like workout classes are such a great way to meet people,
like going to the trenches together. Seriously, there's a bonding
thing when it comes to you don't know. I know that,
like you cannot know the next person at all, But
then when you walk out of that class, you feel
connected and there's something to talk about there. So I
think if you have like your friends that you always
seen the same time and then they aren't there for
a couple of weeks, like where were it was on vacation,

(57:21):
like thanks for noticing I made friends with my Berry's
bootcam trainer, like you know, is not funny, Like I
don't like how she makes me feel in the class,
but afterwards to do Yeah, all right, we got this
one from Hannah Hannah McKinley here, she says, Hannah McKinley here,
and we believe that we are the Becca Antonia of
our generation. Generation A single and combined have gone on

(57:52):
probably seventy five days in the last five years. Yet
we wouldn't mind if we were thirty and still romping
around like y'all still. First of all, the user, the
word romping is generation. Your podcast has literally brought us closer,

(58:12):
just like when Tanya Peet or hydro Flask your Hamster
Issues episode kept it from literally shanking each other on
the way home from stage coach last year. We are
now just down here trying to live our best lives.
Yet every day we go on leads to nothing more
than a two week relation. How does one continue to
explore the dating world war constantly being thrown in the pooper?
Can you say that word on the air, I don't know,

(58:33):
I don't even know what you're talking about. Romping around around.
I'm not romping any romping either, sons rom I'm definite
sans romp, Like, couldn't be the more opposite of romp

(58:53):
romp stomp. I don't know. Um, how do you continue
to explore the dating world while you're constantly being let down? Which?
How do you keep going? It's a very discouraging process.
For sure. You have to keep a hopeful heart. You

(59:15):
have to keep a hopeful heart because if you always like,
every guy that you date is going to like suck
until they don't suck. So it's like you just have
to keep at it. I think that's true of life everything,
whether it's professional or friendships or personal goals. You just
have to keep a hopeful heart. Yeah, I love that
you have to. I Um, it's hard now because I'm

(59:36):
I have thought though, like if I wasn't in a relationship,
what would my mindset be right now? If I was
still dating? Interesting? I know I had this the other day.
Could you be on the dating apps? I my my
process of the dating apps was like delete and then redownload.
I was kind of in a wild phase when I
when I got into a relationship, I was like doing

(59:58):
my thing you know. So when that happened, I was like, Okay,
well I guess all right, I'll stop that. But I
was like kind of been a phase of being like,
oh whatever, I'll do whatever I want. Um, so I'd
probably still be doing that, but I would I literally
if I went on two bad dates in a row,
I'd be like, I'm done for a year. Like it
does get like you going to dates or like multiple

(01:00:21):
dates and it's not going anywhere. It is like it's
not even about like going on a bad date isn't
like going I'd rather go on a bad date than
go on a date with like a guy that like
didn't call me back or like ghosted me. I mean
a bad experience. It's a bad experience. Yeah, But it's
like the dates were great and then all of a
sudden he's like sons, like, Okay, what happened here? Do

(01:00:42):
you know what I mean? But it doesn't like messes
with your head because you're like, what was it about
me that was? You constantly put it on like you
so you're constantly being like, what's wrong with me? What's
wrong with me? What's wrong with me? Nothing's wrong with you? Yeah,
And I think to be honest, I I have been
someone who's ghosted or like been like the one who's
been not interested, so I've also I think i'd be

(01:01:03):
more aware of that of being like, okay, be more
like communicate more. If you didn't feel it, and you
can tell that they're feeling it, then let them know,
you know, I think I would handle it differently. Romping
around in my third Send Your Butterfly and I actually
had this conversation about ghosting and I was like, you
were a ghost anyone? And he was like, have you
ever been ghosting? And I was like I was remember

(01:01:25):
Mr Stilt kind of tried to ghost me and I
was like and I wouldn't let him. Like followed up
like two weeks later, I was like, so, um, what's
happening here? I was, um, Mr d d Yeah, he
like ghosted me. But I remember I was like, no, no, no,
not like where I started. Adults like just have a conversation,

(01:01:48):
I know, and like, I actually not that I get
it when you're younger, but it is you're like you're
like scared, you don't want to her anyone's feelings, but
it's just like at some point it's like just say
like like you want to be serious and I'm still
romping around. So it's like fine, d Sianara, thanks for
the communicado. No no, no, no, no, no not Tanya

(01:02:16):
shall not be ghosted. Don't let it happen. It's got big.
Hey we're going to San Francisco. We're gonna talk about that.
Oh my gosh, I'm so another trip with Tanya. I
am thrilled A short flight. Okay, that's actually what are
we gonna experiment with? I think we actually a lot
of people reach out to me asking if we were
gonna what happened you went on speed for a people

(01:02:42):
to hit the two X button on their phone. People
have been hitting me up asking if we're going to
have the debate of air pods, and so I thought
maybe we could do for the San Francisco flight, but
maybe we should say it for the New York flight,
or maybe I don't want should swede. Yeah okay, okay, yeah,
you tell it. Let me think how this goes. Okay.

(01:03:02):
The question is when the poll basically pull air b
r B. When people wear air pods or earbuds in
general on a flight, are they saying leave me, leave
me alone, don't talk to me, or being on before
you give your or b They're just hoping that somebody
will take the time to say hello to them, a

(01:03:24):
like I do not want to have my headphones are on.
I don't like to be mess with it. Of course,
agree disagree. It's smiley on the treadmill over there, like
what she thinks. It's a sign of people just wanting
to be asked. That is very confusing. You're really throwing

(01:03:45):
people off those and bixed signals. They're really I feel
like when you have your earphones and you just you
just like you're just too shy to approach people. Is
this same react? Joe's reaction is the exact same reaction
I have, which is shell shock. So we're check this
out on our flight to New York City. Imagine how
this is going to have anyone ever taps you with

(01:04:05):
your head your earphones on, No, I've I've engaging conversation,
and they'll pull their headphones out. They are so alloyed.
That's like, that's like tany like would be like I
was running carrying it and that's how Jonah Hill and
he had a hat on and sunglasses on and was
looking down the whole time as meant he wanted me
to come up and talk to him, take a photo.

(01:04:27):
He wanted me to come take take I love you.
Was like, sure, that's what I love it. But it's
just so like sweet. So anyway, they can try the
air pods on your way to San Francisco. It's a
short flight, but you can try it if you want to.
It's the pod raising the Giants. It's this Thursday, at

(01:04:47):
the twenty nine of August, and there's going to be
a meet up before the game. You can meet Tanya,
you can meet Becca, you can meet Dean anglerd Hey Dean,
let's go. Uh And if you want to do this,
go to Group Maddics dot Events slash Scrubbing. I'm sorry,

(01:05:08):
I know that's a complicated u r L, but it's
Group Maddics g r O U P M A t
I c S dot Events slash Scrubbing. You can meet Becca, Tanya, Dean,
and Vanessa before the game at Oracle Field supposed in
the Facebook group too point. Thank you good. We'll do
some swipe ups too, Sancisco. There you go. That'll be

(01:05:28):
the next episode. Oh so sad. We could not be
more thankful for having you in this in o R today.
I thoroughly enjoyed scrubbing in. I loved having Wait before
you go, what are you doing with your other ring?
We're keeping it, keeping it. It's it's so sentimental, so
we're gonna keep it. Either pass it down, turn it

(01:05:50):
into a necklace. We don't know, but we're not definitely.
He's like, I don't want to give that away or
sell it, so for sure you can. What is that?
Why would we hold a great story, the greatest story
of all time? This was fun, y'all can't wait to
come back. Would you like to call time of Death
of the podcast before it's over? It's I think we

(01:06:16):
should do like a video where we're like scrubbing in,
like you and I are scrubbing in in the bathroom,
and then like like they can pay Justes and like, oh,
you guys have a new doctor surgeon in the o R.
And then we can like walk in and JoJo's in
here like actually scrubbing. Yeah. Yeah, and I have the
masks quick video, so be waiting for that on the

(01:06:37):
podcast on the not on the podcast what I do?
Time of Death twelve forty six, That is pretty goot,
so cute. I just never wanted to end. I can't
believe you bug people on the head. Wait