March 13, 2024 • 23 mins
Ever wonder where you can find the most amazing waterfall in the USA? Dean is ready to reveal all of his secrets about traveling to Havasupai in Arizona!
Dean and Caelynn reveal some crucial hiking do’s and don’ts, and they tell you the real story on what is and isn’t worth the money.
Plus, find out if Dean was brave enough to jump off a 100 foot waterfall!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome to episode eight. I've been there,
Dean that we just got back from a trip, but
we're not going to talk about that trip just yet.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I thought that's what we were talking about today.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I was prepared, you are prepared about it?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I thought you said we were going to talk
about it this week.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We are Aruba. We're doing back to back apps. We're
doing an episode pre Aruba and the next episode will
be Aruba.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's pri Ruba? What are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, I'm so glad you asked, kailin, because today we
are going to be talking about something we mentioned in
last week's episode about Guatemala. Do you know you can
guess use that big brain Ireland, use the big brain
in your big in your regular size head.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ireland. No, we already talked about Saint Lucia.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yes, so we're just going to do it a little
quickie on have a sup? I have a sup? I
falls So Kaitlin and I this was back in November
of twenty nineteen, started dating. We had been dating since June.
So what would that be? Four months? Yeah, we were fresh,
five months. We were fresh. I think that everyone at
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least now has to know of have a sup Eye.
At the time, it was still very very popular, but
it's only just grown in popularity since then, and it
probably will continue to grow in popularity. But it's something
that had been on my list for a very very,
very very long time. Did you know about how a
Supie before we went to it?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No? And I was just thinking, I don't think that
many people know about how a Supy, like I think
a lot of people do in our sphere. I'm putting
myself in that sphere because I've done a lot of
hiking with you, But like the hiking photography, there's no
other word but sphere, sphere. Those people kind of know
about it, but I don't think a lot of other
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people outside of that know about it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's surprising because a person like you of Indigenous descent,
you'd think, you know, there's a drive down there. I
know from the Midwestern tribes.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, I don't think every Maybe I'm a bad Native American,
but I don't think we know about every tribe and
in location and what they have to offer.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You're not and I'm not saying that you are bad
Native American whatsoever. I was just trying to be facetious
I suppose, but yeah, so have a Suphie is a
very well known indigenous population in northern Arizona. It's it's
well known for its waterfalls. Specifically, there's one waterfall that's
about one hundred feet tall. To have a sup Bye Falls
That is maybe the most breathtaking waterfall I've ever seen
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in person. I would venture to say the most beautiful
waterfall in Northern America. I wouldn't go as far as say,
in the entire world.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because I think there was in America that, but we
have to take an into account Canada.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, so like what Niagara, I.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Was thinking, BAMFP has to have a cool waterfall.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, so let's just say this. It's the It's easily
the most picturesque waterfall in the Western United States. Sure,
maybe it's just so beautiful and everyone had talked about it.
My brother had done this hike years prior and listening
to this podcast, if you've listened to it for a while,
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you'll know that I'm obsessed with my brother and I
want to be more like him in every single way
that I possibly can be. He's always raved about it,
and I have just always always wanted to do it.
But it's hard for me to have done stuff like this, Like, yes,
I would love to do it by myself, but I
would rather do it with partners and my friends in
Los Angeles. They ended up doing it later on, and
(03:32):
I wish that I had reached out to them, like
trying to like catalyze this idea, but it never happened.
And then so when I got a girlfriend, I was like, oh, great,
I can just drag her along with me on this.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And boy was I dragged.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You were, Yeah, you were dragged. So what we did
was we hopped online. We had like a weird window
to make it work. We went in November, so I
think that's like kind of the lower season for them,
which ended up being pretty good for us because temperature wise,
it was a little cooler. It was still pretty blisteringly
hot during the day, but got kind of cold at night.
I remember that anyway. So we've found some cancel tickets
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on their website, which if you are looking at booking
a trip to have a soup, I'd go to their website,
looks specifically under the cancelations tab because it books out.
I think the tickets go on sale February first of
every year. And it books out incredibly fast, and we
found tickets just in the cancelation side of things. I
was looking at prices.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Now they're crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, it's the same price as what we paid back
in twenty nineteen, which I was surprised by. It's one
hundred dollars per person per night. Yeah, and it's a
three night minimum.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I thought it was more than that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But yeah, so for us, we spent six hundred dollars
just to go camping for three nights, which is just
mind blowingly expensive when you consider campsites are, you know,
mostly free. Sometimes you're going to pay five, ten, fifteen bucks,
but one hundred bucks a night for per person is
just it's mind blowing. It's kind of worth it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I would say, would you say, oh, yeah, I think
it's worth it for sure?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I would say it's worth it at least once.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I would definitely like to go back again.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I would one hundred percent go back again. But
even and that, you're kind of like, well, that's kind
of expensive, but it for one for your first time,
one hundred percent worth it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, it's it's amazing. It is quite a trek in
and out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah. So well, so let's get there first, So we
drove from Los Angeles. We had the van, thankfully, because
it's a seven hour drive from LA and do you
want to start early in the morning, and so you
don't want to leave at like one am, get there
at seven am, or get there eight am and then
start hiking. That's kind of a pain in the butt.
So what we did was we drove from LA. I
think we stopped somewhere along the way like a rest stop,
and spent the night, and then we just kind of
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like lazied our way into it in the morning. We
didn't start intol like nownish. We actually didn't start until
like one twenty pm, I know exactly the time.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, And well cause I read about on my blog,
and so I went back and read my blog and
I was like kind of surprised and impressed by myself
how much detail I levied out onto the blog.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Make sure you check out genybabies dot com if you
want to read more.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Haven't updated in a few years. But I got to say,
I was pretty proud of myself for that content that
I had written there. I should get back into that.
So yeah, so we drove, we stayed the night, we
started hiking in the morning. I remember getting there. There's
a checkpoint a couple miles before the trailhead, and I
with my I was in my van, of course, and
it's kind of like driving in your small apartment where
things kind of just get locked lost amongst the clutter.
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You don't know exactly what's in there at all times,
versus a car where you're like, oh, I cleaned it
out last week, so I know exactly what's in here.
There's nothing bad. I had like a couple extra beers.
I had a drone. You're not allowed to bring alcohol
and you're not allowed to bring drones. Those are like
the three things they explicitly say don't bring these in.
They do, like I pretty throw a search of your car,
and especially being a van, they kind of like tore
everything apart. They found the beer, they found the drone.
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They just maybe empty the beer out there at the
At the ranger station, they asked about the drone. I
just told them that I flew it and crashed it,
which is true, and so it didn't fly, and so
they like let me get off, thankfully. I think typically
they might take that from.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You, but with other people we read up a little
bit on it, and if you have any of these things,
they can turn you away. They're like basically can take
your permits, take your money, and they're like, sorry, you're
not welcome here. Yeah, alcohol and drones and somehow we
got to lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And imagine just driving seven hours and spending six hundred
dollars and getting all the way there and then and
not being allowed to enter. So if you do end
up going, make sure triple check and quadruple check that
you don't have these things in your car. Because they
were nice to us. I don't know how understanding that
would be for you know, future issues like that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But yeah, and they are thorough like they will go
through They went through our entire van, which is it
took a while, and they will go through your entire car.
So don't try to hide anything, don't try to bring
anything in that you shouldn't because you'll get caught. Yeah,
they've got dogs sniff in you.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
They got they do have a cute little puppy sniff
in you. So so we get there eventually and start hiking.
I do have a breakdown of kind of what I
brought on the trip, but typically, like, of course you're
gonna need a tent, sleeping path, sleeping bag, cold weather clothes,
some suit obviously, and very comfortable hiking shoes. We got
to the trailhead around one started hiking around one twenty,
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and from there it's a ten mile hike to get
from the trailhead into the campsite. It's it's a unique hike.
The way in is much easier than the way out
because it's all downhill. I think it's like two thousand
feet of elevation change, so you go down two thousand
feet on the way in and then obviously up two
thousand feet on the way back. Ten miles. I think
we did the whole thing in maybe like three and
a half or four hours, which is pretty good. Calen
(08:16):
hadn't really done much hiking at this point. I remember
your hip flexer was flaring up on you quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I want to say so this was my first
big hike ever in my life. This was the most
I've ever hiked. I think like max before that was
one mile, so this was ten or eleven ten ten.
And so we went to ARII and stocked up. I
had to get a bunch of new gear and stuff,
and I was like, it's probably time to get legit
hiking boots versus the crappy little ones that I have,
And I went for style, which you should never do.
(08:42):
Quickly learned and they were They didn't feel that heavy
in your hand. But you want like the most lightweight
possible hiking boots. Mine they were so they became so
heavy so quickly, like two miles in lifting my leg
each time pulled my hip flexer. And I was very
week at the time, but my hip flexer was pulled
so bad that I couldn't like it was just like
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impossible to keep walking. So we had to keep taking breaks.
So if you were looking for hiking boots, make sure
they are super light.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, light is good. There is a trade off between
light and like formidable. You don't want a hiking shoe
that's like a super light shoe because then you'll feel
every rock underneath your foot.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Well, mine are super light, but like heavy duty. The
new ones that I have.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, I firmly believe that a good hiking shoe
is maybe the most important thing you need when you
go hiking. If you have a bad pair of hiking
shoes that you don't find comfortable personally, it's going to
totally ruin your experience.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh and it did on the hike in and then
I had to wear I'm a seven and a half
dian as a men's even eleven, and so I had
to wear his water shoes the rest of the way
because I was in so much pain. But it's hard
to know, Like that was the first long hike I've
ever done, it was hard to know exactly what to
look for. ARII has a great return policy, so you
can go on this hike and then you can return them,
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which is awesome. So luckily I got super lucky with that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But and it is a big trial and air thing too.
My big, first big hike I went on in Patagonia.
I bought a pair of hiking shoes kind of unknowingly,
just bought the things that I thought would be best
hated them. So for fifty miles on that track, I
just absolutely hated my shoes until I eventually found the
shoes that I were Now are the Lesportiva's approach shoes,
like the t X four's, and I love them personally.
(10:19):
I think it really just you just got to find
a shoe that you really like and know that you're
gonna be comfortable in.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But that's exactly what it is. It's trial and error,
and it sucks if you make an error on a
hike like that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Right, So we get there, we start hiking in. I
remember at one point I tried to take a video
or a picture of some of the horses and I
got shushed away. They're like, delete all that stuff right now.
You're not allowed to have any pictures of the horses
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or any of the people here, which I found surprising.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I will say too, if you are going to do
this hike, please don't use the pack mules. Yeah, it's
just a little sad it is, so you can hike
in with your back. And that's what Deem is taking
a photo of. I think if they were.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Donkeys, I was just making a video or video.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, and like it just happened to be an animal.
But they were carrying people's gear in because some people
don't want to carry their own gear, and please don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, I agree, I agree, Yeah, I agree. Yes. And
so we get there. We get to the town of Supi,
which is like the small town of the Indigenous people
that live down there. And I actually did a little
bit bit of research before this did you know what
the village of Supi is the most remote indigenous territory
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's located ten miles deep in the Grand Canyon Supy
Village and have a sup by water fowls, only accessible
by helicopter or on your own two feet. I just
found that really interesting that the most remote indigenous territory
in the US. So we get to the town, I
think we there's like a lot of misinformation out there
on what you can buy down there. We brought all
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our own food and when we get down there, there's
like a restaurant. There's like little stands that kind of
review fried goods.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Are you talking about the fry food fry bread?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I mean the fry bread.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The fry bread were there were like two stands once
you're within the hike. But then there's that little town.
But that's still two or three miles before you get
tip yeah camp.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So two miles before the campsite starts. There's there is
a restaurant though that we ate out on the way back,
and we got the jalapeno burgers and they were very
good at like I did because you don't eat beef,
but anyway, So we get there, we check in and
do all that stuff, and then we go to our campsite.
The camping area was pretty full, I remember, So we
got a campsite that I wouldn't necessarily recommend. It was
like the very first Campsit in the left hand side,
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right when you get in, So we had a lot
of foot traffic going by us all day and all night.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But they the campsites are appointed to you, like I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, you go in and it's just kind of like dispersed.
You just kind of find a campsite that you want.
I would recommend going towards the back. Do you remember
like those Yeah, the creep and all that stuff was
running through and there's a lot of really cool, unique
places to camp that we didn't really get the chance
to just because I think we got there super late.
We got there at like five thirty in November, and
so it was like already pretty dark, and so we
were like setting up in the middle of the night,
which was kind of a bummer. But we ended up
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spending four days, three nights down there and no cell
phone reception. So just keep that in mind. Bring a
good book or download some stuff on your phone or something,
if that's what you want to do while you're down there,
just kind of killing time.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
We watched The Harry Bear, The Cubert Affair, The.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Curious Affair of Harry Cubert or something like.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
That with McDreamy from Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Not a good show, but it kept us entertained.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's funny that every time I think about having a
SUP I think about that show.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, that's all we watched, and I think we ran
out of episodes and so we just watched it again. Yeah,
which is pretty funny to think about. I would definitely
recommend going with like a big group. If we had
like six of us down there, we could play cards
or something like that. You know, it was great obviously
being down there just us too, but it would be
nice to have like kind of a bigger crew to
hang out with.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. Group camping trips are always a good time.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, So we get down there. Obviously the first thing
that you see we didn't really see much that night,
but the first thing we saw in the morning was
have a sweep by falls, the big main waterfall and
just absolutely mind blowingly breathtaking, just so much water being
pushed down that waterfall, like it's got so much freaking
power it's insane. But what they do with hav A
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sup I two is the only lot three hundred and
fifty permits per day, and so that's kind of why
it's such a hard thing to do, is to get
a permit. They book got really far in advance, that's
why you have to do the cancelations. And then then
there was only I found this out too just now
there's only six hundred and fifty Indigenous people that live
down there too. So while it is the most remote
indigenous village, it is also only six hundred and fifty people.
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And the people were pretty nice. They were. I mean,
I could definitely see like living them, like being them
living down there, getting super annoyed by all these people
just coming and going every single day. But I don't
think we really had any negative run in with anyone
down there.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Did We Just the animal run in, but that was it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah. So one on what day two or day three,
we hiked down to Mooney Falls, which is an incredible
hike down You remember that cliff side.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, Oh, I was just talking about when you were
trying to take a photo of the horse or the
horses donkey either.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You're talking about when you're sell the Big Horn sheep.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No, that was terrifying.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah. So do you remember the hike down into Mooney Falls?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, also terrifying. Why the hike into Mooney Falls where
I had I started crying, Yeah, why, it was really scary.
So you are hiking, it's like there's all these signs,
it's like dangerous, dangerous, people have died, so dramatic. But
you know, I'm taking that to heart and freaking out.
And then you're hiking down this little, tiny little tunnel
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and then you have to hike backwards this rickety rickety
ladder and it's so high up and then the water
from the waterfalls like whacking you, and it's slippery and
my boots are slipping. It was pretty terrifying.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, I mean I personally didn't think it was, but
I could see why you would think it is. Yep,
it was, but amazing, right, Yeah. You eventually gritted your
teeth and got through it and got to the bottom
and it was worth everything.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Going down terrifying. Going up is obviously a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So Mooney Falls is it almost looks like the same
size as Super I Falls. Maybe a little bit smaller,
but the pool is a lot smaller. You can't really
like swim around in it quite as much, and it
doesn't get as much sunk because I think it's a
little bit more in the canyon. And then we hike
down a little further down the river and just kind
of like walked around and enjoyed a lot of the
scenery down there. What I do kind of wish we
did well, I guess more so me was you can
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hike like down that river really far and hit the
Colorado River at a certain point, and I think you
can even exit that way to a degree, but I'm
not really sure how that works. So if I were
to go back, I would venture further down. We just
kind of spent the whole day, like me entering around
taking photos and walking around and stuff. And then we
saw that bigcorn sheep on the way back on like
this narrow little trail. I remember hearing something off in
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the distance, wondering what it was and looking around and
eventually you spot this, you know, bighorn sheep. They're not
really scary from afar, but when you get up close,
their horns are massive. You don't know how skittish, they're
going to be how like reactive, they're going to be
to your presence, and so you really just kind of
have to take it easy with them.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And Dean and I were like exploring different parts for
some reason, and we're like twenty feet away, and Dean
got it on camera. He couldn't warn me because then
that might startle the bigcorn sheep. So I'm like looking
at Dean and then I'm seriously staring face to face,
like two feet away from this corn sheep, and thankfully
I screamed an inaudible scream, but oh my god, an
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internal scream. I guess it was so scary. It was
so scary, But he walked right by me, didn't hurt me.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And at the end of the day, probably pretty harmless.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Like I bet you he was taller than me.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I know, I know, But I don't think that they're
going to be like predatorially aggressive towards you for being
in there.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They could be if I spooked him and screamed, for sure, And.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think that's kind of the whole thing with wildlife,
is like if you sneak up on them and scare them,
they might react in a way that might hurt you,
but it was just you know, just being in that moment.
It's a little more scary than talking about it, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah. So anyway, so we spent a couple of days
down there just exploring. Calen was nursing her injured hip flexer,
so we didn't really move around that much, which was
totally fine too, Like it was still just worth just
hanging out near the falls and just kind of you know,
waiting for the sun to go down and go to
sleepwake up, and do the same thing the next day.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Getting frybread. The frybread was great. I definitely recommend getting
the fry bread. I grew up on it because I'm
also Native American and it is a very great Native
American dish.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, for the unforlces, Kailin is a Native American or
her grandmother is on hundred percent Native American. She's from
the tribe Band of Traverse Bay, a little Ottawa Indians.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Little Travers Bay Band of Ottawa Indians. My great great
grandpa was the chief.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's right. That means you got chief blood in you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Mm hmm, I'm chief Tis chief Tis.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
No, I'm not, but yeah, I do think that have
a sup I was one of the things that exceeded expectations.
You see so many things online and then you know,
getting there and being a little underwhelmed. Have a sup
(18:39):
I was one of the things where I was like,
this is just as cool, if not cooler, than I
thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, it's hard to capture how incredible it is. And
even if you see all those Instagram travel influencers post
about it and you're like, yeah, that looks cool, but no,
it's it's cooler in person.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah. And then a few years prior, like I said,
my brother went there with a few friends and one
of our mutual friends, his best friend, Mike, jumped off
the top of sup By Falls on hundred feet It's
like ninety six feet, which you know, round up two
hundred why not he jumped in. My brother has a
video of it. I think it's one of the coolest
things ever. And so I went up to the top
of the falls and like, just like, well, if culture
can do it, I can do it. And I stood
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up there for what like two and a half hours, I.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Would say forty five minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was a long time, but like an eternity and
I was at.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The bottom camera ready to take the video if he
ever jumps. He's like pacing back and forth, just scouting it.
Then he goes down to the bottom, sees how deep
it is where he's gonna land, goes back up pacing,
and then someone recognized him, and then the whole bottom
there were probably like thirty people down there were like cheering,
deep deep deep jump jump, jump, and then he came down.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's so scary being up there. I never jumped off
anything that high. I do like to think of myself
as a bit of a daredevil, so I know that
I could do it and survive. But the jump from
up there, you're like looking over a cliff, so you
can't really see where you're gonna land. You like literally
just just jump blind and then eventually pencil and hit
the water and it's per permeated, perfeated whatever water because
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the waterfall is hitting it, so it's not like you're
slapping still water. You could probably belly flop and survive,
you know, but being up there was terrifying, and so
eventually didn't jump and walk down with my tail between
my legs, and then we went to bed, and then
we left the next morning. I was really sad. When
we left the next morning, Kaitlyn was obviously still in
a great deal of pain, and so we walked back
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to super Village. We had heard that there is a
helicopter that flies you out if you need it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
But they said you had to get there at five am,
like wait in line at five am, because they only
do a few helicopter trips a day. And we went
I think we got there at like nine.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, and so I was, you know, totally expecting us
not to be able to get it. Sure enough, there
was like two people on the helicopter, so you got
on first, first go. We had to wait for what
like thirty minutes just for it to kind of like
load up supplies and then take off. But it was
like the easiest thing ever. I would never bank on
that if you're going down. I would never consider like
that as an option because you never know how much
was it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think it's one to fifty.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I actually know exactly how much. It was ninety five dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh that's so cheap.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It was eighty five dollars plus a ten dollars credit
card fee.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Wow, that's so cheap. Yeah, so you did it's like
a five minute flight.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So you got back in ten minutes or five minutes
or whatever it is, back to the trailhead. And I
was so mad at myself for not jumping off the
waterfall that I was like, I have to. And I
probably would have walked anyways, just because I'm a purist
like that, if you will. And I wasn't suffering from
any nagging injuries, which I think is a big, big
aspect of it as well. But yeah, so I hiked
back while Kaylen, I don't even know what did you
do for the three hours that it took me to
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get back up.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think I just laid in the van.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh yeah, because I gave you the keys. Yeah, so
it's an option, Like let's say you like really roll
your ankle and you know you can't walk out. That's
an option. I bet you it's got more than ninety
five dollars now, but it seemed like a great price. Yeah,
I'm shocked by that to save yourself ten miles of
hiking because.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I try to fly out of our engagement site spot
and that was what like five hundred or a thousand SuDS,
like a thousand yeah, Yeah, so ninety five great price.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm noticing a trend here, Kaylan. I don't want to
say it's okay with getting to the destination, but you
always we're looking for an easy way to get back.
Now that that's a bad thing, huh yeah yeah, so yeah,
let's have a supie. Obviously, in a very brief nutshell,
if you're thinking about doing it, I can't recommend it enough.
It was one of my favorite hiking experiences. I would
a million percent go back. If you want to do
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it and you have an extra ticket, please let me know.
I'll come join you.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And he's serious.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I am that serious. Is there anything else that we
want to talk about? Have a suphie, that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Have blast wear, comfortable shoes, don't take photos of the animals.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah yep. We went during a cool time too, where
the leaves were changing, so it was like kind of
exceptionally beautiful at the time. Granted it was a little chillier,
but but yeah, I highly recommend it. Get on that
cancelation website if you want to buy some canceled tickets.
Just have an open schedule and like you know, if
you have a two week window, then you can spare
four days here or there, then just do it that way.
I think that's kind of my best recommendation for that.
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But yeah, that's a very quick rundown of have a
sup eye, don't bring any booze, don't bring any firearms,
don't bring any drones, don't bring anything that you're going
to get in trouble for. They will catch you and
you will get kicked out. So just not worth the
risk anything else. Thank you guys so much for tuning
into this week's episode. Have been there, Dean that just
trying to keep it quick. We still hit twenty four
minutes here, so that's pretty good. Be sure to tune
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in next week. We're going to be talking about Aruba,
so maybe we'll suck just a little bit less.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Alas, thank demby
Hello everybody, and welcome to episode eight. I've been there,
Dean that we just got back from a trip, but
we're not going to talk about that trip just yet.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I thought that's what we were talking about today.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I was prepared, you are prepared about it?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I thought you said we were going to talk
about it this week.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We are Aruba. We're doing back to back apps. We're
doing an episode pre Aruba and the next episode will
be Aruba.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's pri Ruba? What are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, I'm so glad you asked, kailin, because today we
are going to be talking about something we mentioned in
last week's episode about Guatemala. Do you know you can
guess use that big brain Ireland, use the big brain
in your big in your regular size head.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ireland. No, we already talked about Saint Lucia.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yes, so we're just going to do it a little
quickie on have a sup? I have a sup? I
falls So Kaitlin and I this was back in November
of twenty nineteen, started dating. We had been dating since June.
So what would that be? Four months? Yeah, we were fresh,
five months. We were fresh. I think that everyone at
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least now has to know of have a sup Eye.
At the time, it was still very very popular, but
it's only just grown in popularity since then, and it
probably will continue to grow in popularity. But it's something
that had been on my list for a very very,
very very long time. Did you know about how a
Supie before we went to it?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No? And I was just thinking, I don't think that
many people know about how a Supy, like I think
a lot of people do in our sphere. I'm putting
myself in that sphere because I've done a lot of
hiking with you, But like the hiking photography, there's no
other word but sphere, sphere. Those people kind of know
about it, but I don't think a lot of other
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people outside of that know about it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's surprising because a person like you of Indigenous descent,
you'd think, you know, there's a drive down there. I
know from the Midwestern tribes.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, I don't think every Maybe I'm a bad Native American,
but I don't think we know about every tribe and
in location and what they have to offer.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You're not and I'm not saying that you are bad
Native American whatsoever. I was just trying to be facetious
I suppose, but yeah, so have a Suphie is a
very well known indigenous population in northern Arizona. It's it's
well known for its waterfalls. Specifically, there's one waterfall that's
about one hundred feet tall. To have a sup Bye Falls
That is maybe the most breathtaking waterfall I've ever seen
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in person. I would venture to say the most beautiful
waterfall in Northern America. I wouldn't go as far as say,
in the entire world.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because I think there was in America that, but we
have to take an into account Canada.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, so like what Niagara, I.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Was thinking, BAMFP has to have a cool waterfall.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, so let's just say this. It's the It's easily
the most picturesque waterfall in the Western United States. Sure,
maybe it's just so beautiful and everyone had talked about it.
My brother had done this hike years prior and listening
to this podcast, if you've listened to it for a while,
(03:09):
you'll know that I'm obsessed with my brother and I
want to be more like him in every single way
that I possibly can be. He's always raved about it,
and I have just always always wanted to do it.
But it's hard for me to have done stuff like this, Like, yes,
I would love to do it by myself, but I
would rather do it with partners and my friends in
Los Angeles. They ended up doing it later on, and
(03:32):
I wish that I had reached out to them, like
trying to like catalyze this idea, but it never happened.
And then so when I got a girlfriend, I was like, oh, great,
I can just drag her along with me on this.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And boy was I dragged.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You were, Yeah, you were dragged. So what we did
was we hopped online. We had like a weird window
to make it work. We went in November, so I
think that's like kind of the lower season for them,
which ended up being pretty good for us because temperature wise,
it was a little cooler. It was still pretty blisteringly
hot during the day, but got kind of cold at night.
I remember that anyway. So we've found some cancel tickets
(04:05):
on their website, which if you are looking at booking
a trip to have a soup, I'd go to their website,
looks specifically under the cancelations tab because it books out.
I think the tickets go on sale February first of
every year. And it books out incredibly fast, and we
found tickets just in the cancelation side of things. I
was looking at prices.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Now they're crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, it's the same price as what we paid back
in twenty nineteen, which I was surprised by. It's one
hundred dollars per person per night. Yeah, and it's a
three night minimum.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I thought it was more than that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But yeah, so for us, we spent six hundred dollars
just to go camping for three nights, which is just
mind blowingly expensive when you consider campsites are, you know,
mostly free. Sometimes you're going to pay five, ten, fifteen bucks,
but one hundred bucks a night for per person is
just it's mind blowing. It's kind of worth it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I would say, would you say, oh, yeah, I think
it's worth it for sure?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I would say it's worth it at least once.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I would definitely like to go back again.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I would one hundred percent go back again. But
even and that, you're kind of like, well, that's kind
of expensive, but it for one for your first time,
one hundred percent worth it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, it's it's amazing. It is quite a trek in
and out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah. So well, so let's get there first, So we
drove from Los Angeles. We had the van, thankfully, because
it's a seven hour drive from LA and do you
want to start early in the morning, and so you
don't want to leave at like one am, get there
at seven am, or get there eight am and then
start hiking. That's kind of a pain in the butt.
So what we did was we drove from LA. I
think we stopped somewhere along the way like a rest stop,
and spent the night, and then we just kind of
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like lazied our way into it in the morning. We
didn't start intol like nownish. We actually didn't start until
like one twenty pm, I know exactly the time.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, And well cause I read about on my blog,
and so I went back and read my blog and
I was like kind of surprised and impressed by myself
how much detail I levied out onto the blog.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Make sure you check out genybabies dot com if you
want to read more.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Haven't updated in a few years. But I got to say,
I was pretty proud of myself for that content that
I had written there. I should get back into that.
So yeah, so we drove, we stayed the night, we
started hiking in the morning. I remember getting there. There's
a checkpoint a couple miles before the trailhead, and I
with my I was in my van, of course, and
it's kind of like driving in your small apartment where
things kind of just get locked lost amongst the clutter.
(06:11):
You don't know exactly what's in there at all times,
versus a car where you're like, oh, I cleaned it
out last week, so I know exactly what's in here.
There's nothing bad. I had like a couple extra beers.
I had a drone. You're not allowed to bring alcohol
and you're not allowed to bring drones. Those are like
the three things they explicitly say don't bring these in.
They do, like I pretty throw a search of your car,
and especially being a van, they kind of like tore
everything apart. They found the beer, they found the drone.
(06:33):
They just maybe empty the beer out there at the
At the ranger station, they asked about the drone. I
just told them that I flew it and crashed it,
which is true, and so it didn't fly, and so
they like let me get off, thankfully. I think typically
they might take that from.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You, but with other people we read up a little
bit on it, and if you have any of these things,
they can turn you away. They're like basically can take
your permits, take your money, and they're like, sorry, you're
not welcome here. Yeah, alcohol and drones and somehow we
got to lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And imagine just driving seven hours and spending six hundred
dollars and getting all the way there and then and
not being allowed to enter. So if you do end
up going, make sure triple check and quadruple check that
you don't have these things in your car. Because they
were nice to us. I don't know how understanding that
would be for you know, future issues like that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But yeah, and they are thorough like they will go
through They went through our entire van, which is it
took a while, and they will go through your entire car.
So don't try to hide anything, don't try to bring
anything in that you shouldn't because you'll get caught. Yeah,
they've got dogs sniff in you.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
They got they do have a cute little puppy sniff
in you. So so we get there eventually and start hiking.
I do have a breakdown of kind of what I
brought on the trip, but typically, like, of course you're
gonna need a tent, sleeping path, sleeping bag, cold weather clothes,
some suit obviously, and very comfortable hiking shoes. We got
to the trailhead around one started hiking around one twenty,
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and from there it's a ten mile hike to get
from the trailhead into the campsite. It's it's a unique hike.
The way in is much easier than the way out
because it's all downhill. I think it's like two thousand
feet of elevation change, so you go down two thousand
feet on the way in and then obviously up two
thousand feet on the way back. Ten miles. I think
we did the whole thing in maybe like three and
a half or four hours, which is pretty good. Calen
(08:16):
hadn't really done much hiking at this point. I remember
your hip flexer was flaring up on you quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I want to say so this was my first
big hike ever in my life. This was the most
I've ever hiked. I think like max before that was
one mile, so this was ten or eleven ten ten.
And so we went to ARII and stocked up. I
had to get a bunch of new gear and stuff,
and I was like, it's probably time to get legit
hiking boots versus the crappy little ones that I have,
And I went for style, which you should never do.
(08:42):
Quickly learned and they were They didn't feel that heavy
in your hand. But you want like the most lightweight
possible hiking boots. Mine they were so they became so
heavy so quickly, like two miles in lifting my leg
each time pulled my hip flexer. And I was very
week at the time, but my hip flexer was pulled
so bad that I couldn't like it was just like
(09:05):
impossible to keep walking. So we had to keep taking breaks.
So if you were looking for hiking boots, make sure
they are super light.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, light is good. There is a trade off between
light and like formidable. You don't want a hiking shoe
that's like a super light shoe because then you'll feel
every rock underneath your foot.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Well, mine are super light, but like heavy duty. The
new ones that I have.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, I firmly believe that a good hiking shoe
is maybe the most important thing you need when you
go hiking. If you have a bad pair of hiking
shoes that you don't find comfortable personally, it's going to
totally ruin your experience.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh and it did on the hike in and then
I had to wear I'm a seven and a half
dian as a men's even eleven, and so I had
to wear his water shoes the rest of the way
because I was in so much pain. But it's hard
to know, Like that was the first long hike I've
ever done, it was hard to know exactly what to
look for. ARII has a great return policy, so you
can go on this hike and then you can return them,
(09:55):
which is awesome. So luckily I got super lucky with that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But and it is a big trial and air thing too.
My big, first big hike I went on in Patagonia.
I bought a pair of hiking shoes kind of unknowingly,
just bought the things that I thought would be best
hated them. So for fifty miles on that track, I
just absolutely hated my shoes until I eventually found the
shoes that I were Now are the Lesportiva's approach shoes,
like the t X four's, and I love them personally.
(10:19):
I think it really just you just got to find
a shoe that you really like and know that you're
gonna be comfortable in.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But that's exactly what it is. It's trial and error,
and it sucks if you make an error on a
hike like that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Right, So we get there, we start hiking in. I
remember at one point I tried to take a video
or a picture of some of the horses and I
got shushed away. They're like, delete all that stuff right now.
You're not allowed to have any pictures of the horses
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or any of the people here, which I found surprising.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I will say too, if you are going to do
this hike, please don't use the pack mules. Yeah, it's
just a little sad it is, so you can hike
in with your back. And that's what Deem is taking
a photo of. I think if they were.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Donkeys, I was just making a video or video.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, and like it just happened to be an animal.
But they were carrying people's gear in because some people
don't want to carry their own gear, and please don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, I agree, I agree, Yeah, I agree. Yes. And
so we get there. We get to the town of Supi,
which is like the small town of the Indigenous people
that live down there. And I actually did a little
bit bit of research before this did you know what
the village of Supi is the most remote indigenous territory
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's located ten miles deep in the Grand Canyon Supy
Village and have a sup by water fowls, only accessible
by helicopter or on your own two feet. I just
found that really interesting that the most remote indigenous territory
in the US. So we get to the town, I
think we there's like a lot of misinformation out there
on what you can buy down there. We brought all
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our own food and when we get down there, there's
like a restaurant. There's like little stands that kind of
review fried goods.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Are you talking about the fry food fry bread?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I mean the fry bread.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The fry bread were there were like two stands once
you're within the hike. But then there's that little town.
But that's still two or three miles before you get
tip yeah camp.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So two miles before the campsite starts. There's there is
a restaurant though that we ate out on the way back,
and we got the jalapeno burgers and they were very
good at like I did because you don't eat beef,
but anyway, So we get there, we check in and
do all that stuff, and then we go to our campsite.
The camping area was pretty full, I remember, So we
got a campsite that I wouldn't necessarily recommend. It was
like the very first Campsit in the left hand side,
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right when you get in, So we had a lot
of foot traffic going by us all day and all night.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But they the campsites are appointed to you, like I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, you go in and it's just kind of like dispersed.
You just kind of find a campsite that you want.
I would recommend going towards the back. Do you remember
like those Yeah, the creep and all that stuff was
running through and there's a lot of really cool, unique
places to camp that we didn't really get the chance
to just because I think we got there super late.
We got there at like five thirty in November, and
so it was like already pretty dark, and so we
were like setting up in the middle of the night,
which was kind of a bummer. But we ended up
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spending four days, three nights down there and no cell
phone reception. So just keep that in mind. Bring a
good book or download some stuff on your phone or something,
if that's what you want to do while you're down there,
just kind of killing time.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
We watched The Harry Bear, The Cubert Affair, The.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Curious Affair of Harry Cubert or something like.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
That with McDreamy from Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Not a good show, but it kept us entertained.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's funny that every time I think about having a
SUP I think about that show.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, that's all we watched, and I think we ran
out of episodes and so we just watched it again. Yeah,
which is pretty funny to think about. I would definitely
recommend going with like a big group. If we had
like six of us down there, we could play cards
or something like that. You know, it was great obviously
being down there just us too, but it would be
nice to have like kind of a bigger crew to
hang out with.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. Group camping trips are always a good time.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, So we get down there. Obviously the first thing
that you see we didn't really see much that night,
but the first thing we saw in the morning was
have a sweep by falls, the big main waterfall and
just absolutely mind blowingly breathtaking, just so much water being
pushed down that waterfall, like it's got so much freaking
power it's insane. But what they do with hav A
(14:10):
sup I two is the only lot three hundred and
fifty permits per day, and so that's kind of why
it's such a hard thing to do, is to get
a permit. They book got really far in advance, that's
why you have to do the cancelations. And then then
there was only I found this out too just now
there's only six hundred and fifty Indigenous people that live
down there too. So while it is the most remote
indigenous village, it is also only six hundred and fifty people.
(14:31):
And the people were pretty nice. They were. I mean,
I could definitely see like living them, like being them
living down there, getting super annoyed by all these people
just coming and going every single day. But I don't
think we really had any negative run in with anyone
down there.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Did We Just the animal run in, but that was it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah. So one on what day two or day three,
we hiked down to Mooney Falls, which is an incredible
hike down You remember that cliff side.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, Oh, I was just talking about when you were
trying to take a photo of the horse or the
horses donkey either.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You're talking about when you're sell the Big Horn sheep.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No, that was terrifying.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah. So do you remember the hike down into Mooney Falls?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, also terrifying. Why the hike into Mooney Falls where
I had I started crying, Yeah, why, it was really scary.
So you are hiking, it's like there's all these signs,
it's like dangerous, dangerous, people have died, so dramatic. But
you know, I'm taking that to heart and freaking out.
And then you're hiking down this little, tiny little tunnel
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and then you have to hike backwards this rickety rickety
ladder and it's so high up and then the water
from the waterfalls like whacking you, and it's slippery and
my boots are slipping. It was pretty terrifying.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, I mean I personally didn't think it was, but
I could see why you would think it is. Yep,
it was, but amazing, right, Yeah. You eventually gritted your
teeth and got through it and got to the bottom
and it was worth everything.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Going down terrifying. Going up is obviously a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So Mooney Falls is it almost looks like the same
size as Super I Falls. Maybe a little bit smaller,
but the pool is a lot smaller. You can't really
like swim around in it quite as much, and it
doesn't get as much sunk because I think it's a
little bit more in the canyon. And then we hike
down a little further down the river and just kind
of like walked around and enjoyed a lot of the
scenery down there. What I do kind of wish we
did well, I guess more so me was you can
(16:07):
hike like down that river really far and hit the
Colorado River at a certain point, and I think you
can even exit that way to a degree, but I'm
not really sure how that works. So if I were
to go back, I would venture further down. We just
kind of spent the whole day, like me entering around
taking photos and walking around and stuff. And then we
saw that bigcorn sheep on the way back on like
this narrow little trail. I remember hearing something off in
(16:29):
the distance, wondering what it was and looking around and
eventually you spot this, you know, bighorn sheep. They're not
really scary from afar, but when you get up close,
their horns are massive. You don't know how skittish, they're
going to be how like reactive, they're going to be
to your presence, and so you really just kind of
have to take it easy with them.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And Dean and I were like exploring different parts for
some reason, and we're like twenty feet away, and Dean
got it on camera. He couldn't warn me because then
that might startle the bigcorn sheep. So I'm like looking
at Dean and then I'm seriously staring face to face,
like two feet away from this corn sheep, and thankfully
I screamed an inaudible scream, but oh my god, an
(17:06):
internal scream. I guess it was so scary. It was
so scary, But he walked right by me, didn't hurt me.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And at the end of the day, probably pretty harmless.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Like I bet you he was taller than me.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I know, I know, But I don't think that they're
going to be like predatorially aggressive towards you for being
in there.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They could be if I spooked him and screamed, for sure, And.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think that's kind of the whole thing with wildlife,
is like if you sneak up on them and scare them,
they might react in a way that might hurt you,
but it was just you know, just being in that moment.
It's a little more scary than talking about it, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah. So anyway, so we spent a couple of days
down there just exploring. Calen was nursing her injured hip flexer,
so we didn't really move around that much, which was
totally fine too, Like it was still just worth just
hanging out near the falls and just kind of you know,
waiting for the sun to go down and go to
sleepwake up, and do the same thing the next day.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Getting frybread. The frybread was great. I definitely recommend getting
the fry bread. I grew up on it because I'm
also Native American and it is a very great Native
American dish.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, for the unforlces, Kailin is a Native American or
her grandmother is on hundred percent Native American. She's from
the tribe Band of Traverse Bay, a little Ottawa Indians.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Little Travers Bay Band of Ottawa Indians. My great great
grandpa was the chief.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's right. That means you got chief blood in you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Mm hmm, I'm chief Tis chief Tis.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
No, I'm not, but yeah, I do think that have
a sup I was one of the things that exceeded expectations.
You see so many things online and then you know,
getting there and being a little underwhelmed. Have a sup
(18:39):
I was one of the things where I was like,
this is just as cool, if not cooler, than I
thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, it's hard to capture how incredible it is. And
even if you see all those Instagram travel influencers post
about it and you're like, yeah, that looks cool, but no,
it's it's cooler in person.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah. And then a few years prior, like I said,
my brother went there with a few friends and one
of our mutual friends, his best friend, Mike, jumped off
the top of sup By Falls on hundred feet It's
like ninety six feet, which you know, round up two
hundred why not he jumped in. My brother has a
video of it. I think it's one of the coolest
things ever. And so I went up to the top
of the falls and like, just like, well, if culture
can do it, I can do it. And I stood
(19:13):
up there for what like two and a half hours, I.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Would say forty five minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was a long time, but like an eternity and
I was at.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The bottom camera ready to take the video if he
ever jumps. He's like pacing back and forth, just scouting it.
Then he goes down to the bottom, sees how deep
it is where he's gonna land, goes back up pacing,
and then someone recognized him, and then the whole bottom
there were probably like thirty people down there were like cheering,
deep deep deep jump jump, jump, and then he came down.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's so scary being up there. I never jumped off
anything that high. I do like to think of myself
as a bit of a daredevil, so I know that
I could do it and survive. But the jump from
up there, you're like looking over a cliff, so you
can't really see where you're gonna land. You like literally
just just jump blind and then eventually pencil and hit
the water and it's per permeated, perfeated whatever water because
(20:02):
the waterfall is hitting it, so it's not like you're
slapping still water. You could probably belly flop and survive,
you know, but being up there was terrifying, and so
eventually didn't jump and walk down with my tail between
my legs, and then we went to bed, and then
we left the next morning. I was really sad. When
we left the next morning, Kaitlyn was obviously still in
a great deal of pain, and so we walked back
(20:23):
to super Village. We had heard that there is a
helicopter that flies you out if you need it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
But they said you had to get there at five am,
like wait in line at five am, because they only
do a few helicopter trips a day. And we went
I think we got there at like nine.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, and so I was, you know, totally expecting us
not to be able to get it. Sure enough, there
was like two people on the helicopter, so you got
on first, first go. We had to wait for what
like thirty minutes just for it to kind of like
load up supplies and then take off. But it was
like the easiest thing ever. I would never bank on
that if you're going down. I would never consider like
that as an option because you never know how much
was it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think it's one to fifty.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I actually know exactly how much. It was ninety five dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh that's so cheap.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It was eighty five dollars plus a ten dollars credit
card fee.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Wow, that's so cheap. Yeah, so you did it's like
a five minute flight.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So you got back in ten minutes or five minutes
or whatever it is, back to the trailhead. And I
was so mad at myself for not jumping off the
waterfall that I was like, I have to. And I
probably would have walked anyways, just because I'm a purist
like that, if you will. And I wasn't suffering from
any nagging injuries, which I think is a big, big
aspect of it as well. But yeah, so I hiked
back while Kaylen, I don't even know what did you
do for the three hours that it took me to
(21:29):
get back up.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think I just laid in the van.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh yeah, because I gave you the keys. Yeah, so
it's an option, Like let's say you like really roll
your ankle and you know you can't walk out. That's
an option. I bet you it's got more than ninety
five dollars now, but it seemed like a great price. Yeah,
I'm shocked by that to save yourself ten miles of
hiking because.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I try to fly out of our engagement site spot
and that was what like five hundred or a thousand SuDS,
like a thousand yeah, Yeah, so ninety five great price.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm noticing a trend here, Kaylan. I don't want to
say it's okay with getting to the destination, but you
always we're looking for an easy way to get back.
Now that that's a bad thing, huh yeah yeah, so yeah,
let's have a supie. Obviously, in a very brief nutshell,
if you're thinking about doing it, I can't recommend it enough.
It was one of my favorite hiking experiences. I would
a million percent go back. If you want to do
(22:16):
it and you have an extra ticket, please let me know.
I'll come join you.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And he's serious.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I am that serious. Is there anything else that we
want to talk about? Have a suphie, that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Have blast wear, comfortable shoes, don't take photos of the animals.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah yep. We went during a cool time too, where
the leaves were changing, so it was like kind of
exceptionally beautiful at the time. Granted it was a little chillier,
but but yeah, I highly recommend it. Get on that
cancelation website if you want to buy some canceled tickets.
Just have an open schedule and like you know, if
you have a two week window, then you can spare
four days here or there, then just do it that way.
I think that's kind of my best recommendation for that.
(22:52):
But yeah, that's a very quick rundown of have a
sup eye, don't bring any booze, don't bring any firearms,
don't bring any drones, don't bring anything that you're going
to get in trouble for. They will catch you and
you will get kicked out. So just not worth the
risk anything else. Thank you guys so much for tuning
into this week's episode. Have been there, Dean that just
trying to keep it quick. We still hit twenty four
minutes here, so that's pretty good. Be sure to tune
(23:13):
in next week. We're going to be talking about Aruba,
so maybe we'll suck just a little bit less.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Alas, thank demby
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