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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up. It's Jared and Dean and Dean we
love what we do? You know, help By Second Dating.
We talk about dating, we talk about relationships. We love
suck Army, but there is something missing sometimes. What do
you think that is, Dean? You know, I'm going to
go out and a limb and say that it's probably
a woman's perspective. I would agree. So what we're doing
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here is every week we have a podcast, a new
episode in our help Us Second Dating feed called What
a Girl Wants, where we're gonna have girl host come
on and school us about dating and relationships and give
their perspective in the dating world. So this week, for
the very first time, we're gonna have Haley and Emily ferguson.
You know them, you love them from Bachelor in Paradise
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and Ben season of The Bachelor. They found love, but
we want to hear from them about how Davy can
still suck. So we're gonna throw it over to Emily
and Haley take it away. What a Girl Looks Help
By Second Dating spinoff and then I already podcast. Hi,
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I'm Emily and I'm Haley and and as our mom
taught us to say, we're a whole lot of double trouble. So, okay,
Haley and I you'll most likely know us from season
twenty of ABC's The Bachelor with Ben Higgins. I think
you guys all know him very well. Um, go ahead.
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And we were also on season three of Bachelor in Paradise.
Season three and four and four we had zero luck
meeting anyone because Haley and I suck at dating. Well,
we used this point, we do. We used to suck
at dating, let me tell you, But now I must
say we're in the best relationships we've ever been in.
But to kind of backtrack, let's start. Me and Haley
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both dated Ben Higgins on The Bachelor two years old,
and let me tell you, being twenty two, I don't
think we had any effing clue what we were getting
ourselves into. Honestly, Um, it was a lot fun being
on the Bachelor, though I think the best experience of
my life, best experience of our life for sure. The
friendships I think meant the most to us. Um, we
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made a lot of really good friends and honestly still
friends with some of them today, not all of them.
I kind of feel like me and you have drifted
a little bit like kind a way to a Bachelor
where we wanted nothing to do with Bachelor, and then
we kind of got back into it, like we did
The Bachelor, and then we did The Bachelor Paradise, and
then we did our own spin off show, which was crap.
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It was absolutely terrible, and after that we were like, what,
like why do we do reality TV? Like on a
it messed up our relationships that I think back in
the day we thought meant so much to us. They
were trash relationships, but they were trash relations they were
fucking terrible. Anyways, let me I'm going to backtrack. This
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is let's see hear about your relationships first, Emily and
then we'll talk about mine. So, like I view me
and my sister Haley a lot is like we wanted
to be in relationships. We really badly wanted it, and
we were really insecure. I think a lot of our
ex boyfriends told us we weren't pretty enough without makeup,
we weren't this, or we weren't that, And there was
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a point where me and Haley were so insecure that
I think that we kind of sabotage our own relationships
in the sense that like we just weren't. We didn't
feel like we were good enough. But I also feel
like we're really good people, and we loved those people
so hard, and but it kind of led us to
be a little bit controlling. Me and you, I think
sucked at relationships because we were so controlled. I I
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was super controlling. You were a little more calm than me.
I am a little more calm than you in general,
but okay, let's relaxed. I don't know anyway. So honestly,
the one relationship, um that really ruined me was my
ex boyfriend. I dated him on and off for three years,
and he cheated on me constantly, and I knew that
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he was cheating on me. And women we have this
intuition really that like you really need to start trusting
your guts more. That's really how I learned to figure
out if this guy is good or bad. But um,
I knew in my gut that this guy was a
piece of shit. But for some reason, I kept dating
him and I kept going back to him, and I
kept thinking like, whatever, he'll change, I'm good enough for
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him to change, Like why wouldn't he want to be
with me? I'm freaking awesome? But um, yeah, so he
kept cheating on me, and like his ex girlfriends would
like text me or like message with on Facebook and
be like and I hated him. By the way I
hated him. I slept with him last night, or I
saw your car at his house the other day while
I was leaving, and I'm like what, But I didn't
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believe them because I loved him so much. Actually I
didn't love him so much. I was like blinded, you
were blinded. But anyways, so I caught him cheating on
me so many freaking times that at this point I
was just like whatever, I don't know why I keep
going back with him. Clearly there's something wrong with me. Also,
he's a piece of ship, but I just like love
hanging out with him. I don't know what's wrong with me.
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Clearly I'm mental. Um. So yeah, long story short, Um,
I physically caught him cheating on me. I really don't.
I had proof, like girls would text me here and there,
but I physically saw with my eyes him cheating on me.
Hayley was in the car. I had this gut feeling
he wasn't responding to any of my texts. I was like, Hayley,
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can we drive to his house and just see, like
if there's a car in front of there, sure enough,
drive to the house. There's a car in front of there.
I knock on the door because I'm a fucking boss
ass bitch, and I'm like, who is in here right now?
Knock on the door. His roommate answers the door. He goes,
what are you doing here? And I go, oh, my god,
is there? And he goes, uh and he like shuts
the door. And it's like Vince comes. Oh my god,
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I said his name, whoops whatever, he's a piece of ship.
I don't know. He answers the door and um, He's like,
what are you doing here? And I'm like, um, is
there a girl here right now? And he's like He's
like yes. And I'm like, Honestly, I'm shook that he
honestly was just honest with me. And I'm like and
then I'm just lose it. Honestly, at this point, I'm
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not an abusive person, but I tried to hit him
in the face, and I was in the garden watching
and I'm like, oh my god, what am I gonna
do right now? Anyways, I feel like I'm taking up
all the time. Anyways, he sucks. He's a piece of shit.
I broke up with him, and then I found my
now boyfriend, who's the absolute best. Love him, he's the best.
Go to your story and then we'll talk about our boyfriends.
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And her boyfriend is an angel sent from heaven. I
love him. He feels like my brother. Um. I have
a really good relationship with her new boyfriend. And we've usually,
like all of our past relationships, have hated each other's
boyfriends were the point where we can't hang out with
them together. So me, I had a really this is
Haley speaking, by the way. If you can't tell our
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voices apart yet, you will get there. Um. So, I
was in a relationship in high school. Since I think
my freshman year, you're the more committed one. I'm a
committed person and I'm also just as bad as you
where I stay in really shitty relationships. Um So, I
dated this guy on and off for about four years.
He was cheating on me the whole time. The whole time.
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Um it was high school. I wasn't really in love
with him, sorry my microphone. Um. And then I got
into a relationship when I was in college. My first
year of college, I was twenty one. I met this
guy and I dated him on and off for five years.
I have these on and off relationships because I'm trash. Anyway,
You're not trash. You know, I have your heart. I
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have a good heart, and I just had faith that,
like every guy I've dated, was a good person. So
this guy UM that I dated completely UM. He was
really verbally and emotionally abusive towards me. He just I
I've never been so low. I hit rock bottom when
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I was dating him. I just never felt so insecure
about myself. And I was like why I went to
bed at night for five years? Like why am I
dating this human? What am I doing? Rang? Like why
am I still with him? Why don't I have the
strength to break up with him? Because he's not a
nice person to me? He never I never had proof
that he cheated on me. I don't washd. He was
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just really um verbally really mean to me. And whenever
you two would get in a fight, he would ruin
your friendships with your friends, Like he would text me
saying I'm a slut, Like he would like message all
my friends. So like, I don't know why I was
so like this is why I suck at dating, Like
I just had so much faith that these people would change,
or I think I was just so insecure with myself
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that I couldn't find somebody good. So Um. For the
while after we broke up, Um, I had been single
for three years and dated the worst guys. I dating
so much, and I literally picked the worst guys on
the planet. I was dating liars, I was dating cheaters.
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I was dating noncommittal men. You were dating like hot guys,
super hot, but they were like into themselves and cared
more about social media than like a relationship. Ye. Well,
for a while, for a while, I was like, I
would never date an athlete. I hate athletes. They're the worst.
They're cheaters, are liars. So I wanted to date a
businessman for the longest time. My sister gets into a
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relationship with a hockey player. I'm like, holy shit, this
is why I want to date an athlete. Now he's
a good guy. There's good ones out there. And from
that point on, when my sister started started dating an athlete,
that is when I knew that I wanted an athlete
and I wasn't going to settle. And I am now
with an athlete, but it's it really makes me sad
because I like, I love Will so much and he's
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truly just like the best guy in the whole world.
And it makes me sad that people put this, um,
I know, what's that word stigma on them, that they're
cheaters and their liars. A lot of them aren't. Just
throw that out, and I do want to say a
lot of them are because they travel so much that
they can kind of get away with. But I'm telling
you also, businessmen cheating, it doesn't matter, and you're kind
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of guy cheats and you have to trust your gut
and just know that if this guy is good, he'll
make you feel secure, he'll make you There are good
ones out there, you just have to take the time
to find and it's rare. It's so so rare to
find a really just in general, it doesn't matter what
the career is. Yeah, truly, I do feel like it's
so hard to meet a guy that is committed and
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ready for a relationship. But I mean, when you find
the right guy, you'll know in your heart and you'll
everything will go so smoothly and everything will feel so right.
And I know that's so cheesy, and you probably hear
all the time. But like when you know, you know,
like you fucking know, right, That's what Emily says. I
was so dead set on it at first. I didn't know.
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But it's because he was too nice to me. Yeah,
that's your fucking problem. Why's wrong when a guy's nice
to you? But anyways, I let my sister pick out
my most recent pointfriend because I pick out terrible if
they when they get married, because not if they get married.
When they get married, because I know they will, I
get to give the best freaking maid of honor speech
in the whole world because they're getting married because of me.
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Just saying anyways, I did pick out Haley's boyfriend because
she sucks at picking out guys, and I was like, Okay,
you really suck. Let me just go on Instagram and
find like a European guy that looks nice and I'll
help you out. Therefore, that is why my sister and
I have come up with a slogan. Is that our slogan?
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It is what is our slogan? It is one to
three go for the foreskin ladies and gentlemen. I mean,
I guess not a gentleman. Um. Let me tell you
the guys with Okay. The only reason I'm saying go
for the foreskin is because clearly they're European, right, A
lot of okay, so let's just let's just put attention
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on this. So a lot of guys from different countries
such as Canada and anybody in Europe, such as like,
so your boyfriend in Sweden, my boyfriend is from Finland,
and obviously I think a lot of in Europe they
do not um circumcised. They're not circumcised. By the way,
my child will not be circumcised, well yours, no, absolutely not. Anyways,
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I'm gonna teach my son to be a gentleman. Anyways, Uh,
go for the foreskin. Seriously, those guys are nicer, they're
more romantic, they were raised right for some reason America,
American men suck. I've tried. I've tried, and I've tried,
and they've fucking suck. And you look at girls like
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now that like we're friends with and they're still single
because they date American men. I'm like, girl, come to Sweden.
I'm there for two months in the summer. Come visit me.
I'll hook you up. Like all the Swedish guys. I
know are gems there. They want relationships, they want a girlfriend,
they want to get but they also don't believe in like,
they don't really get married. Okay, that is that's a
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different that's a whole different subject conversation in and of itself.
But for now, we're just talking about why we go
for foreskin because they're just in general, are all nicer guys. Yes,
they're way nicer. They're romantic romantic. I kind of feel
like this is just the theory. I could be so
super wrong. Obviously, Will gets to play in America, and
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you know, he's like, could I think he's technically probably
an American citizen by this time? Do we even know?
I don't know. He's not. He's he has a visa,
A word visa. That doesn't mean he's like if he
marries me, he gets to be an American citizen. Though.
So I'm telling you women, you get up there, you
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find your little European man. He wants to be with
you within three weeks and be your husband because he
wants that green cards. Right, Oh my god, if we
are terrible. No, people want to live in America. Although
I don't want to live in America. I want to
live in Europe. But that's a whole other story as well,
because whatever, I don't care anyways. Okay, if you need
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help finding yourself a man, just send me a d M.
Or if you're talking to an athlete, you need to
know he's a piece of ship, or if he's good.
I got you girl. All right, So we are back
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and we took a little break, but we wanted to
introduce our very special the Queen of the Land, the
most beautiful woman in the world. Jilly Girl, Lotus, Flower,
Jilly Girl blue eyes. So many different names. What are
all the different names that you have different user names
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for your dating apps? Because you're fifty and you are
on all your dating apps, aren't you. I am. I
am fifty and nifty. Let's see. I don't know. I
haven't used any of those funny names in a long
time because now most of the platforms want you to
just use your first name. So now it's just Jill.
Oh that's boring, Mom, it's so bor But it used
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to be jilly Girl, blue eyes. You girls made up
jelly girl Lotus. There's so many Okay, so Mom, we
kind of wanted to ask you, so how how different
is dating for you in your fifties than it was
in your twenties, and what are like some of the
pros and cons of that. Well, when I was in
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my twenties, I was married. I was married to your
dad when I was twenty one, so I met him
when I was eighteen, so I really didn't date. So
my whole dating awakening happened when I turned essentially forty,
when I was divorced. And so I mean, it's just
the last ten years is the only gauge that I have,
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and unfortunately it seems to get worse and worse, not better. Well, okay,
so now dating in your fifties, can you tell us
what dating webs Can you name all the dating like
applications and websites you've been on? Okay, e Harmony, Match,
Make Girl, Millionaire, Selective Search, um, plenty of Fish, Bumble, Tender,
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e Harmony, Um. I think that's all of them. Over much.
I have to say, we did help her set up Bumble,
and you know we did because we heard. So I'm
just curious which one? How is Tinder for you? Just curious?
I don't really like Tinder, and I can't say that
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very honestly. I am not sure that any of the
dating sites really work. I mean, I know there's all
these statistics that one in five relationships now start online,
according to match dot Com. But I think it's like,
I think it really depends on what you're looking for.
And I most of my relationships, let's just put it
this way, instead of saying, how is dating in my
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twenties versus my fifties, My best relationships have come from
people that I've met authentically, like that I did not
meet online. My longest term relationships are with people that
I did not meet online, that I met like in
a natural, organic environment. Right. Um so Um. We have
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tried to set you up on a couple of dates,
not like really more like when we were doing like
our reality TV shows, they have you come on and
set you up on dates. But there was one guy
that we think we saw at Nordstrom that was really
attractive that we tried to set you up. But on
me and Haley have never been successful at setting you
up on dates. You've really found My mom has like
a whole laundry list of things that she she expects
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Adaman and um, but wait, I want them to I
want to back up a bit because you're dating history
on these dating apps have been so bad, and you've
told us some crazy stories. And there's one story that
makes me laugh to this day. You were sitting in
your car, do you remember this one? And you left
tell this story? Tell us. So, this was somebody that
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I met online and my one of my pre prerequisites
as we always at least have a phone conversation. So
we had a phone conversation. He seemed decent enough over
the phone. We set up a time to meet um.
I asked him it was going to be kind of
a busy place where we were meeting, so I said,
what will you be wearing so I can look for you?
So he told me what he would be wearing. Well,
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I arrived a few minutes early and I was out
in the parking lot, sitting in my car because I
wasn't going to go in early and be the first
one there. And I saw him get out of his
car and what he said he was going to wear,
and he was about thirty pounds batter and about three
inches shorter then what he said he was. So I
just sent a text message to him and I still
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I happened to see you getting out of your car,
and you don't look anything like your profile photos. And
I'm going to be leaving now, and you blocked it,
just left, you blocked into your number. So my mom's
number one thing is when she doesn't like a guy,
after she's done talking to the phone on him, once
she tells him she's no longer interested, she blocks them
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so that she doesn't have to see their response. That's correct, Honestly,
that's the best way to avoid the drama, for sure.
For sure, that's honestly amazing. Um. Now, next question would be, uh,
what's the best dating advice that you have? Maybe for
women your age, women your age, honestly, probably because I
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feel like there's still so many women right now that
are in their fifties probably trying today. You have a
lot of single friends that are trying to do a
lot of single friends. I even have friends to your
girl's age, as you know, that I work with, and
they have no luck. They're trying online. So I think that, um,
my dating advice is you you really need to be
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a high worth woman. You have to know your worth,
you have to know your value. You have to really
have a good relationship with yourself, and you need to
know what you want and not settle for anything less.
And I think what a lot of women find up doing,
and even some of my friends have wound up doing this.
They settle because they get so sick and tired of
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being alone and so sick and tired of going out
on hundreds of bad dates that they meet one guy
that maybe is half of what they're looking for, so
they figured they might as well take that. But long term,
it just they're never really happy because they settled instead
of holding out for all of the qualities and the
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things that they want. And I mean, it just seems like,
should we bring Timmy into this because he's leaping just um,
it just seems like men this day and age are
really lazy daters. They really people say, oh, I want
to be in a relationship. I would really just like
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to meet a beautiful woman who's sweet and kind and
all of these things. Well, I can promise you I
think I'm pretty beautiful. I think I'm sweet and kind.
But like at the end of the a these men
just have no idea how to really show up for
a real relationship. They and men like any man that
you're going to meet online, you better just assume that
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they are talking to and juggling between five and ten
different women. So it's really just a hobby from so
even in your faieties, because men do that even in
our twenties. So that's still common to this day, oh
for sure, and especially I think especially because men like
my age, they've been married two or three times by now.
It's so rare to find someone like me who was
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married for just a long time to one person. They
go on to one failed relationship after another because they
don't learn and they don't grow, and so they just
keep going into a relationship but bringing the same problems
with them and not really working on themselves and fixing
what they need to fix to be available for a
real relationship. Yeah. So yeah, it's just it's a hobby.
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I call it a d D adult dating disorder. Is
this something you came up with? No, it's something that
actually somebody said to me out on a date that
this one guy admitted. He says, I kind of have
a d D adult dating disorder. I'm just like shuffling
a bunch of different women. Mom, how how many dates
do you think you've been on since since you've been divorced? Like, Okay,
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so you've been divorced for ten years now, right, you've
been searching for Okay, so how many dates you've been on?
I mean more than a thousand over that? Yeah, a
thousand probably like no joke? And are you nobody have
to go on these dates? Never? Never, because you've done
it so much. I've done it so many times, and
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I'm very listen. I'm an open book. I'm not hiding anything.
I think people are nervous when they're liars and they're
hiding stuff, and there's things about themselves that they're hoping
you're not going to notice. Like a guy who says, oh,
I drink socially and then you go out and in
two hours they slammed down seven drinks as a social drinker.
How many men lie about their age and their height
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on their profiles? Oh? I think I think men and
women lie. Women lie about their weight and their figure,
Like they show pictures of like just head shops and
stuff like that, where they show pictures that are fifteen
to twenty years old. Men tell me that all the
time that the women misrepresent what they look like. Um,
men lie about their age in their high So if
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a man tells you he's five nine. He's probably five seven,
probably probably five seven, five seven, five ft seven, and
you're five ft nine, so you're a tall I'm five
ft seven. Oh okay, yeah, But what I'm saying is
men will lie so short men, especially if a man
says he's five eight, look out, he's probably five six. Okay,
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that's good too, And mom, would you um now, obviously
dating has been really hard in your fifties, but could
you see yourself ever being married again? I would love
to like find that one person to have a new
beginning with, you know who just absolutely swept me off
my feet. A great love story, kind of like the
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fairy tale that I really never got, you know, the
fairy tale relationship love story, all of the great good feelings,
someone that you can trust because people are such liars
this day and age. I don't understand that at all.
All the line but line just stems from insecurity, things
that you're ashamed of. So people lie because they're ashamed
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that if you see the real them, you won't like them. So,
um yeah, I would love to meet a great guy
where we're just tripping over each other, we're so in
love to want to be together and do things together,
create new memories, create new traditions, and have all of
those great feelings where you never wonder when they're out
of your sight. I mean, you girls know a lot
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of what I've been through. Are they mine? What are
they really doing? Are they really where they say they are?
Blobity blah blah. Well, more than anyone in this world,
you deserve the absolute best, and we love you. Thank you.
I love you girls too, and thanks for joining us,
and we appreciate your honesty. And I hope that you'll
be married soon. We sent your prayers. Thank you. Love bye. Okay, guys,
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so now we are going to discuss relationships during quarantine.
How how difficult has it been to date your significant
other during quarantine where you're kind of stuck at home
with just the two of you nothing to do. Um,
you can't really this was during quarantine. Now things are
open a little bit, but where you couldn't go to
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the gym, they couldn't go golf, they couldn't do any
activities that they enjoyed doing. Um. So basically it's just
you two together. UM. So, Emily, you go first, and
then I'll talk about my experience because mine's a lot
different than yours. Right, So I've been dating my boyfriend
for almost three years now. I'm used to having him
around a lot, and then I'm also used to having
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him away a lot. Me and Will are just very chill,
two very chill people. We get along so well. We're
literally each other's best friends. We've obviously known each other
a lot longer than you and Olah have known each other.
So quarantine for me has honestly been amazing. I've loved
having him home because there are those times where he's
gone for so long that I just miss him and
really want to be with him. And I'm used to
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being away from him for like months at a time
because he's from Sweden and I live in Las Vegas
and my life is here and his life is in Sweden.
But you know, also because he plays in the NHL,
he's away a lot, like two weeks at a time.
So during quarantine for me, I've been so lucky that
it's been so easy for me. I don't know, like,
I feel like I'm pretty independent and know like how
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to keep myself busy, and Will's also independent and knows
how to keep himself busy. But we always know how
to just come together and do we do things for
each other that you know makes us feel like, I
don't know, just like in love and just I don't know.
You guys seem to have been really fine during quarantine.
I don't mean we'll never have had to fight. I
don't even know one time. That mean we've really had
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to fight. Never heard you, guys, because well does it fight?
It was I kind of wish he did, but it
just doesn't fight. So my experience has been a lot
different than yours. So I have only been dating my
boyfriend for about six months now, um so when quarantine started,
we'd only been dating for two months. Um and we
decided that we were going to come and quarantine together
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in Las Vegas with my sister and will. Um So
for me, I had not been in a relationship for
three years. I had never lived with my significant other.
I have never had to share space with them. Um.
My boyfriend has had had his last relationship, they lived
together for a while, UM so he's had to live
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with somebody. I've never had to live with somebody. UM
So it was very difficult for me. I have never
had to share a bathroom with somebody. I've never had
to share a bed for the boy because you've always
shared a bathroom with me, but with my with like
the person that I love. Um So, so this was
(28:14):
a new experience for me. And at the beginning of quarantine,
I was like, I even I got in the car
one day and I told my sister from like, I
don't know, I said, I don't know if I'm gonna
be able to live with this person for the next
like who knows how long this is gonna last. And
um so I kind of had to have a sit
down conversation with him and kind of explained to him
(28:35):
that I've never lived with somebody, so this is really
hard for me. And I also felt like I was
kind of babysitting him because he wasn't really at the time,
didn't know my sister's boyfriend, and we also had another
um friend of Will's here, so like he didn't know
the two guys that were living here, and so I
felt like I had a babysit him and kind of
be there for him. And that's a big burden for
(28:55):
me to kind of carry as well. Um So, I
felt like I always had to give him constant attention
and we weren't necessarily fighting, but we were definitely having disagreements. Um,
different opinions on a lot of things. It's a long
story short after I had a conversation with him, he
started playing UM Call of Duty with the boys and
(29:18):
talking to the war zone. We're gonna go to the
goolog now lots lots sorry, We're just trying to be
boys right now. So anyways, UM, it's and I think
that even my sister's boyfriend to this day admits that
the reason that my relationship survived is because of the
war zone. Um. So the boys were started playing video
(29:41):
games UM together and they started once they golf Once
golfing open, they started golfing together and I got my
alone time. And UM, I think that this has saved
my relationship. Honestly, the bull zone has saved your relationship.
But in general, quarantine, I am stull in love with
(30:03):
um my boyfriend. Now. I think we have the best
relationship because I feel like I can just be honest
with him. I farted in front of him for the
first time. I go to the restroom in front of him.
I shipped in front of him, like we have an open,
honest relationship with each other now. And Olah is the
nicest guy in the whole wide world. Really sensitive, y'all.
(30:24):
He's a pissy, So that was really tough for me
because I had sworn for years I would never end
up with the piece is romantic, he's thoughtful, he's just
over like. He's already told Haley to go pick out
her engagement rings. Sorry, Ola, if you're listening to this,
I just threw you under the bus. But will never
told me any of these things. And I just love
(30:45):
you for telling Haley to do all of this, and
you are just the greatest man in the whole wide world.
Um anyway, So he's in Sweden right now playing um hockey.
So he is now overseas playing hockey. He was here
playing for Austin UM so, he's playing for Texas UM so.
I was able to see him in the States. Now
he's in Sweden and I cannot travel to see him.
(31:05):
We have had um there's certain times where we can talk,
which is in the mornings and at nighttime because our
time difference is so different. And I just feel so
blessed to have such a supportive like boyfriend, someone who
I can fully trust while he's away, because I do
know that there is a stigma that athletes are cheaters
and blah blah blah. But there is not a single
(31:26):
doubt in my mind that this man is doing anything
like to even hurt me in any way. So I
think that this is making us stronger. But I do
think that it is a lot more difficult for people
who are in relationships with kids, who are married, um,
who can't see their significant others. And right now your
boyfriend has gone to Emily. He's in the bubble right now,
(31:47):
playing for the playoffs. Yeah, and soon I'm gonna have
my friend Marianna talking with us, who also dates professional
athletes from the vague school to night, so we can
talk more about the bubble later. Um, just quickly, do
you want to talk about just like people who have
like broken up and divorced during quarantine, just because there's
been so many. I feel like quarantine has broke a
lot of people, so many, like just one off the
top of my mind is Cassine Colton. Yes, But also
(32:11):
I just want to say I'm not surprised about that.
I think that I'm not surprised about this relationship ending
during quarantine. I saw this way for them to end. Yeah,
if anything, excuse. It's a really good excuse to end
during quarantine for them. Yeah. Um, I think I saw
this one coming. I think a lot of people really
wanted this one to work. But I think a lot
of us, deep down inside knew this wasn't gonna last.
(32:34):
I just from rumor, has it from a couple of
people that I've heard. We know nothing about these two.
I never met, never met them, No, really know nothing,
but just from like little things that I've heard here
and there, is that I just kind of feel like
Cassie's very like downlow, low key, like living her life
doing her thing. Ye were in California, but Colton likes
(32:56):
to be in the spotlight. And I kind of feel
like Cassie never really wanted well, she I'm sure if
she went on the Bachelor she wanted it, but I
don't think she knew it was going to be to
the extent that it was and right, and then she
got quarantined with Colton, who actually got COVID and her
family had to take care of it. I could. I mean,
boys are such babies when they're sick. I probably want
(33:17):
to beat the ship out of Will too if he
got COVID and I don't know. I don't know if babies. Yeah,
so I'm sure that kind of pushed her to her
breaking point, kind of like taking care of someone who's
like I don't know. But anyways, I'm not shocked about
Colton Cassie. One that hits really home to me is
Julianne huff and Brooks. Like, um, he's a hockey player,
(33:38):
he's retired, well, he's a retired hockey player. Also, we
grew up dancing. Absolutely loved Julianne, like watch Dancing with
the Stars, religiously like love herself. A big fan of her. Um.
That's surprising to me because I went deep into her
and I went so she would like Hayley, look at this,
and I was like, how old is this? And it
was like years ago. They were like so in love
(34:02):
and like he posted about her all the time and
how much he loves her. She posted about him all
the time and how much she loves him, and like
their love was like eternal, and like they they like
hyped this mountain together. I'm not even gonna pretend to
know what mountain they hyped together, not to peach you.
I don't know how to say it right. They hyped
this mountain together. It took what a magical mountain can
(34:23):
pronounce it, I know, seriously, but they were so in
love and I am shocked, honestly. I've read gossip columns,
I do my research. I've been looking um. There's been
rumors that she wants to get back with him and
that he never even wanted the relationships and to end
to begin with. So that one really hits me hard.
And I really, more than anything, I'm rooting for them
so so hard, just because like he's a hockey player,
(34:46):
she's a dancer. I feel like I can kind of
relate to them, like I don't know, absolutely love them
as a couple. Do you think, Emily, do you think
that when a when an athlete retires, similar to Christian Cavalier,
Cavalili Cavalier, Kevin J. Cutler and J Cooper because he
was also a professional football player he retired, do you
think that when they retire that it's it's hard as
(35:08):
a as a woman to kind of deal because they've
been so busy their whole life. Athletes are I think
during their time as being an athlete, they're super selfish
and super focused on them that when I do agree
when they retire, it's a lot of pressure on the
woman because now they're home seven and they don't really
know what to do with their life. Um, they are
trying to figure out their purpose in life now that
(35:28):
they're retired. So I do think that ends a lot
of relationships once they retire because they're super like, what
am I going to do? But also Julianne and um
Kristen are very Juanne and Kristen are very independent women
who like have their own lives and can't attend a
needy man, you know, like they are going to do
their own thing. Anyways, both those relationships really make me sad.
I really, I don't know. Do you think Kristen and
(35:50):
j would get back? And I don't know. God, I'm
so sad about I was so sad about that one
freaking love them. They were just I don't know, I
don't know. We love reality, but I also think reality
TV ruins relationships. So what do but getting into dating
an athlete? Um, all that good stuff. We're gonna have
our really good friend, my amazing friend, Marianna. I met
(36:11):
her when I started dating Will, who is a Vegas
Golden Night professional athlete. We're about to have her on
and I can't wait time she just She also dates
a Vegas Golden Nights hockey player, say um, and they've
been dating for a while. I've been dating for a while.
But they're young, They're really young. So it's actually I'm
actually curious to talk to her. Yeah, all right, everyone,
(36:42):
so we're getting into our last interview one of our
really good friends. She also dates a professional athlete, say Theodore.
But this is the one and the only Marianna. Okay,
do I say your last name right? Alston? Yeah? Alston, Yeah, Alston,
a little silly of a last name, but all right,
(37:03):
and you Okay, So Marianna, tell us a little bit
about you. So you're from Canada, correct, Yeah, okay, based
in Calgary, Alberta. Oh I love it. You little Canadians
are just like the cutest ever ever. I'm very sorry. Okay,
So I just have a question. How did you and
Shane meet? Um? This was in kind of second year
(37:24):
university and my one of my best friends and a roommate.
She her boyfriend lived with Sha for like five years
in the w h L, and so they kind of
like put the idea in his head a little or well,
kind of like they were like, oh my god, you're
single now, blah blah blah. And then so she shot
(37:46):
a shot on Instagram and I still have the um
screenshot his message and yeah, and she is like one
of the sweetest guys in the whole wide world, just
like an absolute angel and the cutest. Okay, now I
just have to ask you, no, dating a professional athlete
mean you like both know, I mean even Hayley too.
(38:06):
It's like so hard. And I think a lot of
people think, oh, it's so glamorous, you like live the
best life ever. And don't get me wrong, we live
really great lives. But it's also really hard. So what
can you expand on, Like what are the advantages of
dating a hockey player? And this, like what are the
disadvantages of dating a professional athlete? I feel like obviously,
(38:26):
when you first started dating, like I think most hockey
players wives or girlfriends like experience long distance. Um, and
you're like a lucky duckie that you don't have to well,
I guess right now you do ish, But like Shane
and I did it for like three years, so and
(38:48):
we started long distance literally when I met him, like
I flew down to San Diego when he was in
the American League on a Thursday and then on that
Sunday like we're boyfriend and girlfriend and then I went called,
so I was like okay, bye, Like I don't know
what to do, but um yeah. So I feel like
starting out it's hard, Like it sucks, especially when you
(39:11):
hear so many stories about like oh my god, this
guy cheated on this guy for girl and blah blah blah.
Is all this stuff and then and so so much
of that gets into your head, especially I was twenty
at the time, Like right, I was just like, oh
my god, like is he gonna cheat on me? Like
I'm but you learn to trust and then you learn
(39:32):
to get to know that person. And I feel like
a big disadvantage is everyone just seeing the like material things,
so they're like, oh my god, like you have a
nice house and blah blah blah. But like I don't
think people understand like you can have a nice house
and you can have this and that. But there's a
lot of things that are tough to go on, like trust.
(39:54):
It's it's basically you're putting your whole life on hold
for someone else that you have to like trust them
right away and if you wanted to choose your relationship
over your career, which is what I did, Like, that's
a hard thing to do to Absolutely, you had to
pick up your life from Canada and moved to Vegas.
(40:15):
You dropped everything. I remember, you had to quit your
job and you had to move to Las Vegas to
be with him. So how hard was it from like
leaving your family and friends and coming to Vegas to
kind of start your journey and your relationship with Shay? Yeah,
I think like, uh, I feel like since it was
when you're four years dating when I moved down, um
(40:39):
or more than four and a half or whatever, But
I think that made it obviously easier because I was like, Okay,
Shay and I are like endgame. But um, going back home,
I feel like it's tough because you know, all my
high school friends or like my friends from university, they're
all just like doing so well in their career. And
(40:59):
like my one of my best friends, like Meg, like
she literally is moving to London, like starting this whole thing,
Like she's just deep and knows what she wants to do.
Versus I like when I go home, like, yeah, I
don't really have that you know, I like to talk
about and even I have a degree, it's just like
(41:20):
tis right. Yeah. But also I don't think people realize
that you moving your life to Vegas and supporting Shay
and being there for him, like how much goes into
like actually dating an athlete and they're meant being there
for them mentally physically. Like the this sports seriously, I mean,
I think all sports in general is honestly truly nuts,
(41:41):
and just like making sure that when they're down and
when like they lose like a game or like let's say,
our first year was like a dream, like they were
about to win the Stanley Cup. We had to be
there for them when they lost. That was I think
one of the most difficult things that we ever had
to deal with. They lost the Cup to obviously obviously
a great team, have nothing bad to say, but just
(42:04):
being there for them, picking them up and having to
start over and get into that new season and then
keeping them motivated during quarantine too. I kind of feel
like that's like our job too. Yeah. Well, I feel
like luckily, like they are boys boys of course, so
they love like good thing they had golf, golf, and
so oh my god, seriously, literally like golf every day.
(42:26):
Like I would be at the course until one, and
then she would be at the course and I. We'd
come home and meet each other at dinner and we're like, hey,
like how are you? I'm seeing you at all? It
was so funny. Okay, So our next question is, and
this is obviously going into the whole like athletes are
kind of cheaters blah blah blah. Hate that hate that
(42:46):
stigma that they have on them. But um, so our
question is, how do you feel with the guys being
in a bubble right now? Or would you say you
more worry about them when they're constantly traveling on the road.
Are you more worried about them being in the bubble
or when they're on the road all the time? I mean,
I have my theory on this, but you go first, Yeah,
I would say, like obviously, when we first started dating,
(43:08):
when I was first getting to know Shay, who his
friends are, who he is like, then that's when I
was like, oh my God, like freaking out. And that's
when the you know, trust kind of wavered and things
happen and blah blah blah. But I mean, yeah, there
is a stigma on players. Um, professional athletes being cheaters,
(43:30):
blah blah. But that's only because if they cheat, it's
out in the open, it's out in the media. It's
this and that everyone knows. But there are cheaters everywhere.
It comes down to character. It comes down to literally,
like who you are as a person. If you're piece
of or like not good of a person, you're going
to cheat atter if you're a if you are a
(43:52):
school teacher, or if you are a businessman, like if
it just sound to who you are. And yes, these
guys have girls around them all the time, but like
it just it just comes down to whether or not
they respect you or they don't. Absolutely Unfortunately a lot
of guys and like professional athletes, like but the stigma
(44:14):
is only because everyone sees that everyone knows it, but
everyone or like not everyone. Not everyone cheats, but I mean,
like there's always a different kind of right. And I
always say, you just kind of have to trust your gut,
like if you like I've been cheated on, like my
past relationships, I had been cheated on so many times,
and I just always knew deep down in my gut,
(44:34):
like this person was a piece of ship and he
is cheating on me. And he is trying to hide it,
but that doesn't mean going forward that every guy you
date from there on out is going to cheat. And
it sucks that, like now that I date a professional athlete,
that people just assume that that's what they're doing and
that and like, honestly, one of the questions that I
get all the time, like from my friends is like, oh, like, uh,
(44:56):
how do you feel like when he's like away, do
you like get nervous? And I'm just no, because Will
makes me feel so secure and he makes me feel
like I can trust him, and I just know in
my heart that he's not doing those things. So and
obviously saying with she like, Will and Shay are like
best friends, and they're like they're literally the same person.
They're so shy, they're so quietly. I don't even think
(45:16):
they would know how to hold a conversation with another
girl because they're so weird and awkward. But that's just
my personal opinion. Um. Also, I just kind of feel
like our group of guys with like the Vegas Golden Knights,
this is me. I might be biased, I don't know,
but every guy has a girlfriend on our team, every
single guy. And that's really rare, so rare. A lot
of hockey teams actually have like a lot younger guys
(45:39):
who are not in relationship, and every single one of
our guys has a girlfriend, and every guy, to me,
in my opinion, is a stand up guy. And we
just I don't know. I just I'm actually curious what
it would be like like on other team, Yeah, like
what their experiences. Well even when well, when she was
with Anaheim, like not to say anything about that, but
I just feel like younger guys, right, it was well yeah,
(46:04):
younger and older, like, but there was just a different mentality.
Maybe Will was. When Will was on Anaheim, that's when
he was single. And that's when I heard Will was
his like that was his like wild Bill Phace, you know, so,
I mean he was, he was going for it. And
you know, I do feel like when they when these
(46:25):
athletes meet the girl that they want to like actually
be with and settled down with, they actually truly change.
So I do believe when they meet the one, they're
really going to be stand up guys. And that's for
me how I feel is right now, these guys are
truly stand up guys. Um. And I also feel like
if they are like so when before I moved down,
like when Shay would go out with Tucky, like TUCKI
(46:48):
is obviously in a relationship now, but like obviously, if
you're a single guy, you want girls around like of course,
like if I was single, i'd want guys around. Um
and so before like back in the day, I used
to be like, oh so nombers, but now I'm like, literally,
she could be surrounded by hookers and be like, um, hello,
(47:09):
I don't know what to do, that's my hands help.
You would like obviously never act on it. And that
that's what it all comes down to. It's like in
your gut, you know that you're with someone would never
act on it. Who would? Yeah, of course there's good
looking people everywhere, like there's no chance, Like even you
and I go out and we're not like, oh my god,
(47:31):
everyone's ugly, Like like no, it's it's fine if you
are surrounded by good looking people for good looking girls
or whatever, as long as you respect me and respect
yourself and so I absolutely like the most important thing
for sure and learning and of course yeah, and I
(47:53):
just think building confidence and trust in your relationship is
so important. And then I wanted to ask you real quick.
So now with the boys being super far away, um,
how do you keep things like spiced up and sexy
and like fun and exciting? Like do is there anything
you do You FaceTime Shay a lot? Do you send
him like sexy pictures? I must say the other day,
I was in the bathtub and I was like, they've
(48:15):
been gone for like three days, but like, my boobs
look good. So I said a little a little snapchat
and I was like whatever, Like, I mean that's exciting, right.
I mean I feel like I don't send nudes constantly,
but I do feel like FaceTime my boyfriend every time
I'm in the shower. He loves that. That's just um well,
because I don't know, I just prop it up on
(48:36):
like um on my like lotion. Yeah, and I just
prop it up. And so I FaceTime him when I'm
in the shower and it's his favorite time of the day.
And you're like that hello the girls like, um yeah,
I feel like okay, Well, I also stay away from
the snapchat, like I honestly, this might be such a
(48:56):
weird way to look at it, but like I will
just send a photo or like send a video through
my message because I'm like, well, if it gets out there,
I look, I think I look pretty, I look good
freaking hot. It doesn't matter. I feel the same way.
I'm like, I'm like, like I looked, I wouldn't be
even mad about it. But like, one time, this was
so sad. One time I was I was in where
(49:20):
I was like, I don't know, this is like two
years ago, and I sent you a nude and I
put it on my slave. Oh no, I've done that before.
I've accidentally sent it to my story and it was
meant to go to somebody else, and I was like,
I had so many d ms that are like that
shouldn't be up. There's mortifying. I was like yeah, but
(49:41):
like also I was kind of like, well I looked good,
so it's okay. I mean whatever, but yeah, I feel
like that like she she's like a button, so like
we're like like and also I feel like when guys
are so focused on some thing, they just are into that.
(50:05):
Like like back in the day, there used to be
coaches in the league that would not have a no
sex rule. Yeah, or like during playoffs, like that's insane.
That's actually also like a big topic. Like a lot
of athletes. They're so focused on their career. That's like
their number one thing, and especially going into playoffs now
that's what their number one focus. Well, and they're in
(50:26):
a bubble. They literally no one is allowed in the
bubble besides the people, and it's just boys. It's like
their dream come true for boys. It's like a summer
camp exactly. And they're playing video games NonStop and they're
just eating together being boys and disgusting. They're living the
dream right now. And honestly, I'm not even stressed in
(50:49):
the slightest that they're doing anything wrong, you know, I'm not.
I'm not stressing at all. And like, also, I've just
been at like I've been living the like life, so
I'm like, yeah, you're back home like with your family
and friends, so I'm sure you're just enjoying life. And
I just have to throw this out there. Marianna is
like the one girl with who's the skinniest in all
(51:12):
the right places and curby in all the right places.
She got big old boobies and a big old booty.
She's got every sorry, she's got everything that every guys off.
I'm just saying, but like, obviously she's taken, so you
can you can't touch exactly, But Marianne, can you tell
(51:33):
us where people can follow you and go along with
your journey about dating an athlete and just living your
life because honestly, you inspire me, So how can you inspire?
Can they follow you? Oh? Whoa? You can follow me
on Instagram it's just Marianna Olston, you know. And uh,
(51:53):
don't poow me on Twitter because I literally don't do
anything on either, do I Yeah? Yeah, basically that's where
you can catch all my I've been posting a lot
about my nephew because he's baby. I saw him little
biggest Night's outfit just a couple of hours ago, just
the cutest thing. Their first game is tonight, so well
(52:15):
it doesn't matter, it's just an exhibition game, but still
it matters. It's gonna be hopefully they'll have their legs
and it'll be fun to watch. And it was like,
Hales is Markston's fiance. Now, yeah, we're waiting to be fiance's. Yeah,
I mean I feel like you guys are going to
be both of you are going to be Mommy, you're
(52:38):
coming soon too. It's all for you about soon we'll see.
But yeah, he'll sent me this name, and she was like, um,
when you have baby fever only to be an aunt.
It's about caculate right now, like I will hold your baby,
but at least I can give it back. Yeah. Well,
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