February 4, 2025 • 44 mins
Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter are back in the trenches and connecting with Trista’s Special Forces co-star, NFL player Golden Tate!
Trista and Golden know each other from the World’s Toughest Test, but Bob reveals that he and Golden have met before! You won’t believe what brought them together!
We hear all about Golden’s experience on Special Forces, and he shares his predictions for the Super Bowl!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hello everybody,
We're reunited. Bob, We're back, AFO G's are back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Reunited, and it feels so good.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I love missed you, t I missed you, Tea Bone.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I mean right, I was so sad.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I kept seeing all the social media posts that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm like, I know it started when I actually started
the week before though, when I went to Dallas. I
think you had to do three or four interviews without me.
I missed I missed Marion Jones, I missed the other
two d s.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
H miss Rudy and Billy.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You missed my recap with Christy. You have been a
traveling fool.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
All of them were amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Honestly, I had such good conversations with everybody. I mean
it's no shock, like I love all of the cast,
members of the cast, recruits on this season and of
Special Forces, and it was just it's been so fun
to talk to everybody. So I'm so glad that you
actually get to be a part of this one finally
(01:13):
one of them.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I know me too.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And so let's recap now, so we know every Let's
go through everyone that's left the show.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
So far, so we've lot Stephen Baldwin, Steve Niece, Richards, Denise,
then of course yours truly. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Then after that, Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Jordan, Nathan Adrian and.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Marion Jones, Marion Landon, Landon.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
A lot of those are all. A lot of those
were medical.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Too, Yes, a lot of them were medical. And Golden
is still in it.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Golden still in it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yep, So let's bring him in. I'm so excited, let's.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Bring him in. I cannot wait.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have not seen Golden Tate in quite some time,
but I'm a big fan for many reasons, and I'm
excited to touch base them and share those.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So hello, well it's up going to the third Hello. Hello,
how are we doing, Gang? Oh we're doing great, man,
We're doing great. Great to have you on the show.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
My pleasure.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I was actually just watching your your podcast with Nathan,
and you got me laughing.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
But I love that you guys both agreed that it's
time to get everyone of every ethnicity in the pool.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Amen of that, and I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean, it's it was. It was a great topic
to have with him, though, he's such a thoughtful guy. Now, yeah,
I think.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
To spend enough time with Nathan, but right away, like
we just kind of hit it off, and like I
spent a lot of time with him in the vans
going to the different missions, and I just really enjoyed
like picking his brain. We're kind of in a similar
space as far as like new babies into our family,
trying to figure out the dynamic of how to be
a good dad, but also our sport is kind of done,
(02:58):
and trying to figure out how to manage dad and
find a new purpose. And so we had some really
good conversations and he's just a sweet, sweet, big teddy
bear that was always happy.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, he seems like a golden Before we get two
into stuff, I want to I want to remind you
how we've met. So I first met you with Scott
Fitter many years ago when you were at the Seahawks.
He's one of my best friends and he was like
the director of player personnel. And then then we met
Jermaine introduced us to play with my buddy Dave Ross.
(03:30):
We played golf a couple times, but Dave, do you
remember Dave?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm usually really really really good
at with faces in this case, so I logged us like, man,
that name, I know that name from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He was like he owned an insurance company out in Seattle,
and was like mutual friends. And we ended up playing
golf a few times, and man, you are a stud
on the course. When they told me that, they're like, yeah,
well Golden wants to you know, wait a little bit
before we do the inter because he's finished up around
the golf.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I'm like, not a surprise, man, the guy could crush it.
And then the.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Last today, the last time we met, I'm going to
show you some I have a three year old and
from watching videos.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The last time we met was when you.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Were in Detroit, and get what my three year old's
jersey is.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Stark.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
This isn't that crazy? That makes me so happy.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean it's honestly, it's so funny. I was like,
he's like, I love going. I'm like, how do you?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean, okay, you know, but I guess it's just
some like watching videos and watching old stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And you know, because I used to do a lot
with the Lions franchise when and now, of course this
year you were one of the voices of the Lions
in the preseason too.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yeah, so did some work with them and had some fun.
But man, calling them games is hard. It's not hard
because I'm talking about football, not football at the back
of my hand, but talking football and trying to articulate it.
So I'm not talking down to people, but all so
articulated where they can understand what's going on is like
(05:02):
a gift in it and so like you listen to
try Eightman and.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Joe Buck and they make it sound easy, but it's
it's a true gift.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And so I'm been in the in the lab trying
to grind it and figure out where in that space.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know, who I love is that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, I'm sure it's gotta be tough, but I
think I think someone who really made a quick transition
to that is Tony Romo, like from a from a
not Some people don't like the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Intricacies of the game that he gets into, but.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I really do, you know, because I played at Michigan
State years ago, and so in my mind it's like
taking me back to the to what could have been
you know, yeah, yeah, much like this show.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, well, much like this show could have been. Talk
I talk about this all the time. I'm always like, man,
this is the show I wish I could have been on.
You know. She's like, well, they might still call you.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm like, yeah, but after watching it, I don't think
I could do it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Where do we even start?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, no kidding, Well, actually I'd love to start with
just how you got approached, how you decided to actually
do it.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
So I'm actually out in Bend, Oregon at the time,
and I met a wedding with my wife one of
her best friends. It's getting married out in Oregon, and
I get this text message and hey, would you be
interested in being on Special Forces World Sevice Tests. At
this point, I hadn't even really heard of the show,
had definitely hadn't watched it, and so I was like, oh, yeah,
(06:30):
you know whatever, So kind of forgot about it. And
then a day later while I was still in the
organ and say, hey, just you know the excellent emphasizing
the message like hey, makes you've seen this and stuff
like whatever. So I ended up like watching a few
like seconds like teasers and trailers, and half an episode.
I was like, oh, Okay, I feel like I could
do this. This could be fun, is what I think.
(06:52):
I said fun. Uh, you know, we negotiated back and forth,
and eventually I had my mind. I said that I
was going to do it as a nice, fun, little challenge,
and then I dove right into it.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Now, I only had about three weeks before it was.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Time to like, you know, go to London and Wales,
so I didn't have much time to prepare.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And boy was it was a rude awakening. When I
got there. I showed up thinking this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
And from the very first moment they took those potato
bags off our faces in the middle of water. Stuff
got real quick. I got PTSD almost like thinking about
some of the stuff. But you know, it was kind
of like anything, you know, I had his ups and downs.
(07:41):
I would definitely say it was the hardest thing I've
ever done because it was mentally, emotionally and physically very
very tough. And in most jobs in the world, physically
you might have a tough day maybe emotionally, but mentally
you're probably okay or but you never have like all
all three of them boxes get checked out daily, and
(08:02):
they found a way to check those box every single day,
and it was just kind of wearing you down, and
like the psychology of it. They were so they were
really good, like at placing different things in our minds,
Like day seven is when they are eight or whatever.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
They have us. They show us videos of our family.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
If they were to showed these videos on day one
or two, we probably yeah, okay, whatever. But at day
seven where we were thinking, like I'm looking for a reason,
like to get out of here because it's hard, and
we know it's just going to get harder and harder
each day.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
So you know, for me, those three things just made
it tough.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I mean the same thing I've
said it over and over again, hardest thing I've ever done.
I noticed in your pre interview. So when we're in
London before the show starts, we do all the interview
stuff and they ask us a billion questions of like
(09:06):
what if this and what if that?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And what if this?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But what I noticed in your pre interview I kept
getting drawn to one of your necklaces that was around
your neck and it looked like it was maybe made
my little teeny tiny hands. Can you tell us the
story of your maybe necklaces, but especially that necklace?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, My daughter London, who is now seventh six at
the time, knew we were getting ready for this big trip,
but me and my wife kind of censored her from
what was going on because we started to explain it
to her, like Dad's about to go to the show,
and right away she was like she saw like ten
seconds of was like.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
No, Daddy, I don't want you to go, Like you
can't go like that, just don't go and tell them
you can't do it, say you're hurt. I was like,
oh no, no, make it back.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
And then the data I left, she gave me this
necklace that I put on as I'm like in the
car head to the airport and I'm already like getting
them over like man, because I just don't want to
leave my babies, but also not have any contact with
any of my family for however long I guess. Now
we know that I was there for at least ten days.
So I was kind of nervous, frightened, had a little anxiety,
(10:17):
and so I put that necklace on and it was
weird because it gave me comfort. Whenever I would look
myself in the mirror, I would see, you know, in
my reflection, I would see my family who I was representing,
and I had a real deep pride to like make
them proud, And so it was a good reminder, like
when things got tough, like to just look down and
(10:38):
know that my little ones who loved me for just me,
they don't really care of the outcome. They just care
that Daddy comes back home and gives me a big hug.
And so it motivated me.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I love that I figured that one of your one
of your kiddo's made that necklace. I'm like, I just
have to hear the story, and I do have to
say if she listens, or if you want to, just
tell her and tell your wife, tell your kids. First
of all, I'd love to meet them at some point someday,
but please tell them from me that for sure, they
(11:14):
should be so proud of you. I mean, obviously it
speaks for itself, like you lasted as long as you've
lasted so far, and you've done such amazing things, but
the fact that you really truly kind of took care
of people like me who I just I just couldn't
(11:36):
do stuff. I just couldn't carry my pack, and I
couldn't run, and I couldn't whatever all these things and
instead of just you know, forging towards the front and
focusing and keeping your head down. You were always looking
out for the little people like me. So thank you
(11:57):
from the bottom of my heart. I like one of
the main reasons I wanted to have you on the podcast.
And I know I've said this in person, but I
want the world to know that you just have such
a huge heart. And I don't know if I could
have I don't know if I would have stayed for
the just two short days that I stayed had you
not been there. So thank you, and they should for
(12:18):
sure be so proud of you.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I know we I really enjoyed my time with you
and everyone else, and I was able to acknowledge that,
you know, maybe I'm going to be physically stronger than
other people, and I always felt like I had more
in the tank and went I went into this like
with a mindset of like, hey, look, there's no like
clear winner in this, Like there's not like we make
it to the end, we get like this huge big
(12:43):
paycheck or anything.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's just like you pass it or you don't.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
And like my goal going into is like, hey, I
want everyone to go as far as they possibly can.
So if I can provide any physical help or mental
emotional support, I'm going to do that. And because it
was always better with us and numbers and so like it. Truly,
it really hurt when, you know, when you finally tapped out.
(13:06):
But I was really proud that you. You know, each
and every mission, you fought as long and as much
as you could. And I was really proud because you
could see, you could see and feel that Trista was
given everything she had even when she didn't have anything left,
and she was trying her best, and you know, eventually
(13:28):
you walked away, and it made me.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Sad, oh golden that morning. I feel like had it
not been so chaotic that morning, I would have stayed.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Like.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It was just so chaotic with the like gunshots or
whatever was in the trash can. It was just so
stressful and I was like, I just my body told
me last night that I it was at its limit,
and now mentally I'm like, I just can't do it.
And you looked at me and you said, I told you.
I pulled you aside and I said, I'm going to go,
(14:00):
said are you sure? I said, I was like yeah,
I just don't want to be a burden anymore. And
I feel like you've given enough of your time to
me that I want you to focus on your your journey.
So yeah, I was ready.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We had hey, I was read.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
I was prepared to help you through the next day
and the next days as much as I possibly could.
But you know, I know, I know, And you made
it back safely and healthy and hopefully mentally in a
good in a decent place. We definitely missed you. But hey,
look I get it. You know that that one song
R Kelly song that we don't really want to use
his name too much, but you know that song.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
My mind is telling me no, but my body, my
body tell me that's how it was on that it
was on mount a few times, like I can, like, god, Lee,
I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Oh my goodness. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So I also want to draw attention to one thing
that I really noticed watching the last episode, and that was,
you know, when we got to the bridge the first day,
the bucks were bad, but they were nothing like when
you guys got back to the bridge to do the
breakman thing. Was it so hard to deal with that? Like,
(15:35):
how did you deal with it. Was it something that
was a problem and they just didn't show you guys
dealing with that because I was like, holy crap, they
are swarming around Billy and anyone who was down waiting
to be the brakeman or whatever.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, it was gnarly.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
It was so gnarly both times when we did the jump,
but also the Brakeman and none stop just smacking your face,
swatting them away for several hours, and you were like
hoping that a breeze would come to just let them go.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Somewhere else, but they just kept picking at you.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
And I remember on the Brakeman when we got back
to Billy who was at the bottom, and I kept
like trying to get him out of here, get him
out of here.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
He's like, what are you scared of? They're just bugs.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I'm like, man, these little things bite and then these
little red marks. Actually, but you know, stop swatting your face.
I I wasn't get in trouble for visiting again and
get stuck in it again, which I was pissed off
that they did not show that an episode.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, okay, you need to tell everybody about it. Please
tell everybody about it right now?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Okay, so day one, Day one, we finally get back
to the living quarters after getting thrown off a boat
and having to swim like a triathlon or something, we hike.
We finally get back and they he Billy makes a
comment of like something that we're doing wrong, and I
just like quickly like kind of pulled my shirt down
to make sure I'm like a uniform.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
And they saying, you know, oh, no, stop feting.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You will be punished for that.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I'm like, dang, the worst.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
You don't want to hear, and everyone like straightens up,
but I get called out, and then eventually everyone goes
to the to see the living quarters, the mess hall,
the showers, the toilets and whatnot. Number nine come with
me and they put me in what we called as
a group, the chicken coop. Okay, the chicken coop is
probably what two feet underground and probably two feet above ground,
(17:31):
so it's high enough where you know, I can't I
can stand, but I can't like fully stand up like
I have to, Like I don't know, it's like a
child's pose, like when a cowld like sits and he's
pooping his diaper or something like that.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
There like mites while everyone's.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Like just jogging around camp, and it became kind of
like a fun little game for me. I was like, man,
maybe I get one of the recruits to look over
here and like me like acting like a chicken.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
And I got a few people.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I remember Brody like looked over and he saw me
being goofy and but so he didn't want to last,
so he was like look straight ahead again, but smirked.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And I think I got a few other people.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
But I was a dang so I get in trouble
as soon as we get on to camp.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But they didn't show that they didn't.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I actually pointed it out to Ryan.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I was like, that is the chicken coop and where
Golden had had to squat, gosh, not sit.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Like, not be on your knees.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You were like you described it perfectly with a kid
pooping in their diaper or something.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I hadn't hurt it, buddy, I played football for twelve years. Okay,
these knees and ankles and toes have been through some
things putting on them boots and then get stuck in
a chicken coop that was brutal.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And not only were you hiking, but you were carrying
somebody else's pack and yeah, you had a pack.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
In the front of the pack in the back. Yeah
eighty pounds.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Even I guess, but I mean I could not believe,
like that's how we started at all.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Man. I was like, dang, that is crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh, I was going to say, you know, one of
the things I thought was that we were talking about,
like even the episode with Trista, the two episodes of Trista,
I was so emotional.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm like text her on the side.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I'm like, man, I'm just so proud of you guys,
you know, And I feel like, even though we've only
met a few times, always felt like I knew you.
But I will say this, I think one of the
things that this show has done for a lot of
the people that've been on the show, not that they
need it, is that it's really highlighted things that people
wouldn't know about you otherwise. Right, Like everyone knows you've
been a standout since high school, college, pros, the whole bit,
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but they didn't know that you had the ability to
really kind of go deep, you know, and you did.
I was like, like, you and Brody in particular, were
two people that I've known for years from different things
and watching guys on that show, I was like, oh
my god, I feel like I just you know, and
you were right, like the different levels that they go
to with you guys, and how they get you there,
but you weren't afraid to go there emotionally, which I
(20:06):
thought was pretty crazy.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Yeah, thank you, and man, well, thank you so much
for noticing that.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, I kind of went into it, like.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
My foundations work closely with our military veterans. I've always
thought our military veterans are like real life superheroes. Yeah,
I understand the sacrifices that they've given for our freedom.
I've visited Frankfurt, Germany, and Kuwait on the USO tour.
I've always paid homage, and the NFL has like months
(20:37):
dedicated to our military, and I've spent a lot of
time with them and heard stories, but I've never had
a chance to actually live it. And we probably only
lived a tenth of what they actually go through. And
all six recruits, we knew that we were going back
home at some point, and we knew it was going
to be within right now or in ten days. And
(20:59):
that's not the luxury that they have. Like they were
out there not hoping that they were going to go home.
And so I guess the point I was making is
that I took myself mentally to a place that in
every scenario I was going to try to envision that
I was a man or a woman serving our country
and what it was actually going to be like, because
I really wasn't.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Worried about dying. I really wasn't worried.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
You know, I don't like heights, but I know that
I was not going to die on jumping off a bridge.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Was.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I wasn't claustrophobic. I do hate the water.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
They didn't tell about it to me that I wasn't
really scared of like any of that, And so I
was able to take myself before, before, after during every mission, like, man,
what would a soldier actually be thinking right now? And
just those thoughts kind of made me like get really
emotional and tear up.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, I mean, you're you were compassionate to everybody. It was.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It was It was really cool, man, I will say,
you know, being I think Q when we had Q
on we talked about this a little bit trist that
was you know, you you get used to watching everybody
from Afar, right especially with NFL players and stuff, and
you think you know them right, like you think you
know I would think your touchdown dances and you know
your posts.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I'd be like, oh, yeah, he's a funny guy. He
does this and this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But then when you see in those moments and it's like,
you know, oh that's right, they're just a person just
like me. They're going through the same emotions I'm going through,
you know, or whatever. And it was really I thought
it was a really great thing for you, especially the
way that you embrace that side of it, because I'm
sure that's that's got to be something that challenges a
lot of the professional athletes to go on there.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Absolutely absolutely, so thanks for seeing that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, absolutely, man.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I was proud for you, like like I knew, like
I like I knew yet, but yeah, but Trista, Man,
I still say this this day, Trista on that show
to see one of like someone who I've known now
for twenty years very closely, to go through the things
that she went through and just to push to that
next level.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I was impressed, Trista. I really was. You know, I
think I've told you, but it really is the truth.
You did great.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Thank you. I mean, I feel like the two days
is nothing. And actually I don't know your you know,
we have to wait and find out how long you last,
if you last until the very end, golden. But for me,
you know, coming home, I was at you, you know,
I was at such a peaceful place when I left.
I was like, it's the right time. But I have
(23:17):
thought like maybe I should have pushed through and kept going,
you know, and then there's this battle, you know, back
and forth. But gosh, the two days is nothing, I
feel like compared to what you guys have done, the
being freaking.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Buried all lit b.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean, so I don't know what if you've had
any experience with reality television, but obviously I have a
little bit for you know, twenty two whatever years, and
I know that producers are going to ask you. If
they ask you certain questions and you answer them, they're
going to use it against you, you know, against you.
(23:59):
So when they asked what our biggest fears were, I
did not mention being buried alive was one of them.
And I can't just because I knew, okay, maybe they'll
take that and run with it and I'll actually be
buried alive. And I didn't want to give them information,
and you guys actually did it. I think that would
be my worst fear. Was that one of the worst
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tasks for you? Or were you able to just mentally
like zen out and deal with it.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
So when we showed up to this I can't remember,
did were you there for the buds training?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, So we showed up to that
same location of the bus training. My heart stopped.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I was like no, no, no, no, no, not long again,
not longer again. Please, I can't, I can't do this again.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
And then it was like, almost like when I heard
when I figured out we were getting buried, it was
kind of like, Okay, I can deal with this, which
was really yeah, because it was like physically, you know,
I'm not going to get crushed now. What was hard
for me again was like once we got in that
box and I understand, I tried to take to like
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understand the magnitude of what was actually happening in real
life for men and women, and like that's what kind
of like got me and crushed me, like because like
I said, I wasn't claustrophobic, and you know, I didn't
know if we're going to be in there for thirty
minutes or three hours, it really didn't matter. But it
took me to a place of thinking, like, like, as humans,
(25:31):
we make so many mistakes throughout the day, and you know,
in life, but hours a lot of there's not really
a consequence for our mistake, right, and our men and
women who serve our country and these missions A minor
a minor mistake such as not half your button button
(25:51):
or a shoelace not tied can result in your best
friend being killed at war, and like thinking about thinking about, like, man,
if something, if I were to make, you know, skip
a step in whatever the situation was the result of,
like me having a give American flag to my best
friend's wife and say, hi, I'm sorry that your husband
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and also the father and children is no longer coming
home because of the silly, careless mistake I made. And
so I was able to like sit there and think
about that, like how many times has it actually happened?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
At war?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
But it's also made me respect my military is so
much more of the elite discipline that you have to have,
and like, along with that discipline comes like the focused
part of it, controlling your heart rate and very chaotic situations,
and it's it's not something that's easy to do. You
have to train yourself. And so like that's another reason
(26:47):
like I admire them so much. So like kind of
what you're saying, Like it wasn't really the burier being
buried apart, it was like the thought of, like how
we got to this point.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's a great perspective. Lore able to tap into that?
Like is that something that you feel like you've been
able to tap into in normal life? Like getting back
to your real life? Because for me, you know, one
thing I took away, one major thing I took away
from the show is just that I am really lucky.
(27:20):
You know, I live in a country where we have
soldiers who fight for our freedom and I have, you know,
a beautiful family and so many blessings. And I left
with that kind of perspective, and you know, in times
that I get frustrated, I try to remember that, you know,
(27:43):
and tap into that. Is that something that you feel
the same, you know, did you take away the same
kind of things? And are you able to use that
perspective in your daily life?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
You know, it's a space that I'm unfamiliar with, and
at times uncomfortable. I grew up just a little bit different,
and I almost was taught not to feel.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And so that's where sports placed such a big part
in my life. Is that I didn't grow up the
most fortunate and having dinner every night and having all
the necessities of to be successful in life were at school.
But sports is where I went to feel like I
was okay and that was good enough. And so you know,
(28:30):
I wouldn't change any of that, you know, to the
journey of where I got, but it kind of taught me, like,
you know, perspective is everything, kind of to your question,
is I was taught not to feel, And so I've
been working on that through through professionals of like flocking
into my emotions and understanding like my childhood to how
(28:53):
I got to this point and being you know, more
compassionate because I feel like whenever things would go away
in life, I would just flip the switch off and
try to ignore the emotion, ignore the feelings, and I
would just run away from it and go straight to
like a sports field. It even happens now, like whenever
I get angry at my kids or me and my
wife have a disagreement, instead of like talking about it
(29:15):
and working through it. I run away from it and
I go play a sport or I'm a thirty six
year old that goes and plays Call of Duty or something.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I just kind of avoid those feelings. I've been working
on just trying to like be okay with these feelings.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Likes. My feelings are my feelings.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
I own those for the rest of the time, and
it's okay if I feel a certain way, even though
maybe I shouldn't feel that way, but that's my feelings.
And so acknowledging that is something I went into this
wanting to pay a lot of attention to.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And also perspective.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I think perspective is so key just in life, and
I think it's something that we all need to focus
a little bit more on, because, look, the truth matters.
I can be living in the middle of North Dakota
and I can personally think it is the greatest place
on the entire planet.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
But I can also, in the same sense.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Probably make it make it seem like it's the worst
place on the entire planet.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So it's just how do you think about it? How
do you think about it?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Like being on Special Forces made me really think about
like that what am I really complaining about in life?
Like what really truly matters and what doesn't truly matter?
And like I'm cheating myself If I'm not gonna remember
what was going with like while I was mad next week,
then I need to drop it. And it's hard to
do at times, and so like just kind of you know,
(30:31):
I could have very easily felt sorry for myself, but
instead I said, you know what, instead of feeling sorry
for myself, I'm gonna I know that there's someone who
has it way worse than I am than I do.
In converse, I can probably make an excuse for there's
someone who has it way better than me. But my
cards are my cards, and it's like what I do
with it moving forward. And so I was able to
(30:52):
like go into this thing like with kind.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Of like a.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Like a very broad plan and perspective on it, and
kind of I was able to hang on to it
and kind of focus on those few little pillars.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It almost seems like you made a spiritual journey out
of it too, you know, like I know you were
keeping a journal and you know you were doing things
like that which would really keep you in touch with
those feelings. So you know, that's that's kind of that's
huge man, to be able to go through that, especially
you know where you're at with your life. Like you know,
you were pretty open in the mirror room talking to
the guys like I'm just trying to figure out what's next,
you know, And that's a hard thing for a man
(31:27):
to say, right that you don't know what's next, especially
with all the success you've had. So I can imagine
it's got to you know, it's got to really kind
of hit a nerve. Did you have you gone back
and looked at any of the of the journal entries
that you made while you were on the show, and
have you have they resonated with you at all?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
I read them at the reunion out in LA and
then I I actually keep them in my backpack and
I looked at them from time to time just to
refer to. You know, over time, you just forget details
unless you're telling me every day. So I've forgotten a
few little things and they refer back to it. I'm like,
oh my gosh, Like I giggle, you know, listening to
the theme or the note of the day that I made,
and you know, like kind of like you like you said, like, yeah,
(32:05):
it was. I was very spiritual with it, and I
think I think that's what we as people need to
kind of lean in on a little bit more. I
think we get caught up thinking we need to we can,
and we need to fix every single problem. But the
God that I serve wants us to lean on him
(32:27):
at our weakest moments and let him do the work.
And I promise that if that, if I could just
trust in God's plan and not my own plan, I'm
going to come out of this much more stronger, with
greater perspective, a humble heart, a serving heart, more wisdom,
and a better understanding on what truly matters.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
And so trying to like keep that theme.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
In my mind when I am being pulled by the
enemy to be selfish or to say something that's not factual,
or talk about someone or just act in a not
good way, I just have to remember that and also remember, like, man,
I serve a God that gave it all up for
me and said, being able to like remind myself and
(33:14):
not feel sorry for myself has kind of helped me
and it just makes my problems feel small. And although
these problems are big in this moment, but in the
grand scheme of things, it's really it doesn't matter. And
to people out there that are going through stuff, it's
okay to go through stuff, and there's someone else's going
(33:35):
through stuff. So find you someone that you can talk to,
that you trust and can and can work out of
this this right. But more importantly, like lean on God,
like God has got you, and that we have a
God that's so much bigger than anything we can even
understand and and do my trials, if we just seek
to be closer to our God, I promise you we're
(33:57):
going to come back out of it and be strong longer.
And so sorry to turn this into like a church service, no.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Truth, Yeah that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean, man, you think about it that way, everyone
that goes through this show, especially if they come through
with that kind of perspective, Golden, I mean, it'd be
a whole different.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
World, buddy, I mean, you know, it really would.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I mean, people going through this, I mean it's like
it really is a challenge for everyone, and it's a shame.
It's only what thirteen people or sixteen people or how
many people started the season, I can't remember, Yeah, sixteen people.
So it's shame they don't do it for you know,
a whole lot more, because I think we could all
use it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know, it's nice to hear you say that.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
It was really good that this show, like I think
to our kids and other people like you, didn't show
all of us at our absolute best, when we're all
in our best clothing, make up, fresh haircuts. You showed
us in a very vulnerable state. And you know, we
were all okay with that because we knew we were
signing up. So I thought that said that said a
(34:56):
lot about you know, just like like, hey, it's be
perfect because social media is gonna pay everyone to be
had this perfect life and none of us have none.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, you're so right, No, we sure do not. Okay,
the really pressing question, who do you think is going
to win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
It's a loaded questionnaire.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I was gonna say the Lions three weeks ago. I'll
tell you that much.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Okay. So I'm kind of torn. I'm torn, and I'm
gonna tell you I'm torn because I played with A. J.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Saquon Barclave played with him, and I've always thought the
world of him, and I thought he was the best
one of the He's going to be known as one
of the best runner backs ever play based off his
effort is ethic, work, ethic, and his talent. But at
the same time, like we are able to potentially witness
like history, something that's never been done before. Patrick Mahomes
(36:06):
and Kelsey and any read to three pet and our sport.
I don't know if people really understand how incredibly hard
that is, because the intangibles and the tangibles have pretty
much need to line up for three straight years in
order for you to do that, and no team is
ever the same. I don't care, it's just never the same.
(36:27):
Guys move on to different teams, they retire, coaches go
get better opportunities, guys will get more money.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
And so to have to build.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
A team essentially three years straight and to have that
team and the ultimate team sport click well enough to
be called world champions is so hard to do. And
so I appreciate that on a whole another level because
I was able to win one Super Bowl and it
(36:56):
was very, very very hard to win one that loan
to do it three times in three consecutive years.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I know guys who've played.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
I know guys like Calvin Johnson and Barry, you know
Barry Sanders who played for eight, nine, ten, twelve years
and didn't even make it to the playoffs or didn't
even want a playoff game. And so to be able
to carton the world champion is a big deal. And
so we're witnessing something that is beyond special. So I
encourage people who like are tired of the Chiefs swinning
(37:28):
and I'm tired of seeing Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and
Taylor Swift. Hey, look we're in the presence of greatness,
and hold onto this memory because one thing I have
learned in sport is that the people who are go
toed are typically the people who are not liked. And
because people want to build you up and eventually once
(37:48):
you get there, they want to tear your butty down.
People don't like Lebron for what reason, Because he's great,
he's not getting in trouble. You don't hear much about
him getting in trouble off the court. Right, hated Kobe
pretty much until he passed away, and now we appreciate
him shot me because of whatever reason.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Now we appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Now he's done playing, and so like, enjoy this moment,
you know, with whatever happens. But nonetheless, I think it's
gonna be a great game. I think you're a.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Bunch of superstars all.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
On one field. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty special to
watch that. And so I'm pumped you went.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Were you on the Seahawks team with the year you
guys went back the second year in a row?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Or was that when you went to Detroit?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
That was my first year in Detroit?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Okay, yeah, because I remember I went to that because
I'm good buddies at Warren Moon, and so I went
out to that game, and then the second year I
went out to the second one, and when when the
Seahawks lost, I was like, oh my gosh, I couldn't
be leave it. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting. That's really interesting. Cool,
And I agree with you, man. I mean, I love
Saquon Barkley. I just I'd love to see him win one.
(38:51):
But you're right, I wasn't. I'm one of those tired
of the Chiefs guys. So that resonated with me. I'm
gonna think about it differently.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, I think that's so true. Though we are hopefully
witnessing history. I mean, good football is good football. Hopefully
everyone will watch and hopefully everyone will watch the finale.
I cannot see of Special Forces World Stuffest Test. It's
(39:19):
on Wednesday nights. You can watch on Fox and then
the next night binge it on Hulu. Golden, thank you
so much for coming on the Almost Famous OG podcast.
We are really excited about your podcast. So where can
people find you? And you know, of course the Tate
Tate three, t third Jersey, But where can people find you?
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Well, first off, I can't answer the question. So you
tell me who you got in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Oh, I'll tell you this. I'm buying a bunch of squares.
Just buy a bunch of squares. Had I just want
everyone to have fun.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I think what you said is right right on.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I will be well.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I will be at a dance competition with my daughter
on Sunday, so and she literally has dances from like
nine in the morning until ten at night.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
So I will be at a dance competition.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Unfortunately, actually fortunately because I love dance competitions.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
But I would love.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
To see the game. I know my husband will be
watching and rooting for both of us. But I do
think that it is true like people love to knock
people down. Tom Brady is a perfect example. You know,
you're you're you are the man in football, and everyone
just is a hater, so I feel like, yeah, like
(40:46):
why not lift them up?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
This?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
This is historical, so I have to say, I'm a
Midwestern girl, I gotta go for the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Okay, all right, I'm struggling.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I'm struggling because my team in Madden back in the
day was I would take I would take the Donovan
McNabb Eagles to the super Bowl every year.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And I don't know why it was my team back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I'm Madden, so I'm such a Lions guy, so it's
hard for me to root for anybody else. But I
will say, I am going to have to rethink I was.
I was all Eagles all the way until you just
said what you said. And now I'm starting to wonder
if I'm one of those haters. So I got to
rethink when I'm I got to rethink this. I'm not
so I'm not sick of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
I think it's adorable, so you know, from that perspective,
(41:31):
it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Bug me a bit.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
But but yeah, I think I got to get over
the fact that I feel like sometimes Mahomes uses the
the the rules to his favor, you know, with kind
of drifting to the sidelines and cutting up when everybody
else backs off. That one makes me mad, but but
I get it. He's just smart. So I gotta quit hating.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yea, quit Hayten.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
You can see Showtime with Golden on Spotify, Apple, or
you can watch it on YouTube. We've had some amazing
guests out there so and we'll probably even even once
the season's over, will still be having some contestants. Hopefully
Trusty will come on and join us and we'll have
(42:18):
some fun with it and see what happens.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I would love it. So yes, everyone go listen to
Showtime and follow you on Instagram. I love your recaps
when you're sitting by the by the TV and you're
just like, and this happened, and this happened.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
I think I might go ahead and do like a
whole season recap and like just take like, oh know,
use the actual season as a green screaming I guess,
and then I'll be like, paulse this is what actually
happened here, and maybe do it for each episode, just
will take some time.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That'd be great, you know what, please do that, if
if only just for all of the rest of the recruits,
because part of me wants to write the producers and
ask if we can have like the raw footage, you know,
just so I can actually show my family that I
did these tasks, because they didn't show me doing much
other than crying. So I would love to see the
(43:17):
raw footage. But at least if there's like, you know,
this is this is really what was going down, and
I was in the chicken coop and squatting like I
was pooping my diapers.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
But anyways, yeah, Golden, thank you man, thanks for joining us.
It's been really great getting to reconnect with you a
little bit. And like I said, Man, I think as
a as a viewer who wasn't on the show with
both of you, I think just the you know, the
mental toughness and but also the compassion that you you
(43:49):
specifically show Golden too, you know, the other people on
your team and in your troop and and the cadets.
I think, you know, like Trista always says she was
you were one of her angels, and so I think
it's pretty cool to see that and then to you know, see,
like I said, you and Brody, for whatever reason, have
stood out to me as two of the men on
the show who really kind of you know, showed people
your emotions and showed a different side of you that
(44:11):
that we had never gotten to see before. And I
think that was huge and I think you needed to
do that, but I think it was huge that you
guys have both done that.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I think it really lets people fall in love with
the show.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, you're welcome, Thank you, and would love to come
on the podcast, so you just let me know when.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Alrighty, all right, awesome.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Thanks everybody, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Loved having you.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Pleasure, my pleasure.
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hello everybody,
We're reunited. Bob, We're back, AFO G's are back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Reunited, and it feels so good.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I love missed you, t I missed you, Tea Bone.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I mean right, I was so sad.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I kept seeing all the social media posts that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm like, I know it started when I actually started
the week before though, when I went to Dallas. I
think you had to do three or four interviews without me.
I missed I missed Marion Jones, I missed the other
two d s.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
H miss Rudy and Billy.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You missed my recap with Christy. You have been a
traveling fool.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
All of them were amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Honestly, I had such good conversations with everybody. I mean
it's no shock, like I love all of the cast,
members of the cast, recruits on this season and of
Special Forces, and it was just it's been so fun
to talk to everybody. So I'm so glad that you
actually get to be a part of this one finally
(01:13):
one of them.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I know me too.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And so let's recap now, so we know every Let's
go through everyone that's left the show.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
So far, so we've lot Stephen Baldwin, Steve Niece, Richards, Denise,
then of course yours truly. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Then after that, Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Jordan, Nathan Adrian and.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Marion Jones, Marion Landon, Landon.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
A lot of those are all. A lot of those
were medical.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Too, Yes, a lot of them were medical. And Golden
is still in it.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Golden still in it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yep, So let's bring him in. I'm so excited, let's.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Bring him in. I cannot wait.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have not seen Golden Tate in quite some time,
but I'm a big fan for many reasons, and I'm
excited to touch base them and share those.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So hello, well it's up going to the third Hello. Hello,
how are we doing, Gang? Oh we're doing great, man,
We're doing great. Great to have you on the show.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
My pleasure.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I was actually just watching your your podcast with Nathan,
and you got me laughing.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
But I love that you guys both agreed that it's
time to get everyone of every ethnicity in the pool.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Amen of that, and I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean, it's it was. It was a great topic
to have with him, though, he's such a thoughtful guy. Now, yeah,
I think.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
To spend enough time with Nathan, but right away, like
we just kind of hit it off, and like I
spent a lot of time with him in the vans
going to the different missions, and I just really enjoyed
like picking his brain. We're kind of in a similar
space as far as like new babies into our family,
trying to figure out the dynamic of how to be
a good dad, but also our sport is kind of done,
(02:58):
and trying to figure out how to manage dad and
find a new purpose. And so we had some really
good conversations and he's just a sweet, sweet, big teddy
bear that was always happy.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, he seems like a golden Before we get two
into stuff, I want to I want to remind you
how we've met. So I first met you with Scott
Fitter many years ago when you were at the Seahawks.
He's one of my best friends and he was like
the director of player personnel. And then then we met
Jermaine introduced us to play with my buddy Dave Ross.
(03:30):
We played golf a couple times, but Dave, do you
remember Dave?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm usually really really really good
at with faces in this case, so I logged us like, man,
that name, I know that name from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He was like he owned an insurance company out in Seattle,
and was like mutual friends. And we ended up playing
golf a few times, and man, you are a stud
on the course. When they told me that, they're like, yeah,
well Golden wants to you know, wait a little bit
before we do the inter because he's finished up around
the golf.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I'm like, not a surprise, man, the guy could crush it.
And then the.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Last today, the last time we met, I'm going to
show you some I have a three year old and
from watching videos.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The last time we met was when you.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Were in Detroit, and get what my three year old's
jersey is.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Stark.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
This isn't that crazy? That makes me so happy.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean it's honestly, it's so funny. I was like,
he's like, I love going. I'm like, how do you?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean, okay, you know, but I guess it's just
some like watching videos and watching old stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And you know, because I used to do a lot
with the Lions franchise when and now, of course this
year you were one of the voices of the Lions
in the preseason too.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yeah, so did some work with them and had some fun.
But man, calling them games is hard. It's not hard
because I'm talking about football, not football at the back
of my hand, but talking football and trying to articulate it.
So I'm not talking down to people, but all so
articulated where they can understand what's going on is like
(05:02):
a gift in it and so like you listen to
try Eightman and.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Joe Buck and they make it sound easy, but it's
it's a true gift.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And so I'm been in the in the lab trying
to grind it and figure out where in that space.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know, who I love is that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, I'm sure it's gotta be tough, but I
think I think someone who really made a quick transition
to that is Tony Romo, like from a from a
not Some people don't like the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Intricacies of the game that he gets into, but.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I really do, you know, because I played at Michigan
State years ago, and so in my mind it's like
taking me back to the to what could have been
you know, yeah, yeah, much like this show.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, well, much like this show could have been. Talk
I talk about this all the time. I'm always like, man,
this is the show I wish I could have been on.
You know. She's like, well, they might still call you.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm like, yeah, but after watching it, I don't think
I could do it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Where do we even start?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, no kidding, Well, actually I'd love to start with
just how you got approached, how you decided to actually
do it.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
So I'm actually out in Bend, Oregon at the time,
and I met a wedding with my wife one of
her best friends. It's getting married out in Oregon, and
I get this text message and hey, would you be
interested in being on Special Forces World Sevice Tests. At
this point, I hadn't even really heard of the show,
had definitely hadn't watched it, and so I was like, oh, yeah,
(06:30):
you know whatever, So kind of forgot about it. And
then a day later while I was still in the
organ and say, hey, just you know the excellent emphasizing
the message like hey, makes you've seen this and stuff
like whatever. So I ended up like watching a few
like seconds like teasers and trailers, and half an episode.
I was like, oh, Okay, I feel like I could
do this. This could be fun, is what I think.
(06:52):
I said fun. Uh, you know, we negotiated back and forth,
and eventually I had my mind. I said that I
was going to do it as a nice, fun, little challenge,
and then I dove right into it.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Now, I only had about three weeks before it was.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Time to like, you know, go to London and Wales,
so I didn't have much time to prepare.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And boy was it was a rude awakening. When I
got there. I showed up thinking this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
And from the very first moment they took those potato
bags off our faces in the middle of water. Stuff
got real quick. I got PTSD almost like thinking about
some of the stuff. But you know, it was kind
of like anything, you know, I had his ups and downs.
(07:41):
I would definitely say it was the hardest thing I've
ever done because it was mentally, emotionally and physically very
very tough. And in most jobs in the world, physically
you might have a tough day maybe emotionally, but mentally
you're probably okay or but you never have like all
all three of them boxes get checked out daily, and
(08:02):
they found a way to check those box every single day,
and it was just kind of wearing you down, and
like the psychology of it. They were so they were
really good, like at placing different things in our minds,
Like day seven is when they are eight or whatever.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
They have us. They show us videos of our family.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
If they were to showed these videos on day one
or two, we probably yeah, okay, whatever. But at day
seven where we were thinking, like I'm looking for a reason,
like to get out of here because it's hard, and
we know it's just going to get harder and harder
each day.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
So you know, for me, those three things just made
it tough.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I mean the same thing I've
said it over and over again, hardest thing I've ever done.
I noticed in your pre interview. So when we're in
London before the show starts, we do all the interview
stuff and they ask us a billion questions of like
(09:06):
what if this and what if that?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And what if this?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But what I noticed in your pre interview I kept
getting drawn to one of your necklaces that was around
your neck and it looked like it was maybe made
my little teeny tiny hands. Can you tell us the
story of your maybe necklaces, but especially that necklace?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, My daughter London, who is now seventh six at
the time, knew we were getting ready for this big trip,
but me and my wife kind of censored her from
what was going on because we started to explain it
to her, like Dad's about to go to the show,
and right away she was like she saw like ten
seconds of was like.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
No, Daddy, I don't want you to go, Like you
can't go like that, just don't go and tell them
you can't do it, say you're hurt. I was like,
oh no, no, make it back.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
And then the data I left, she gave me this
necklace that I put on as I'm like in the
car head to the airport and I'm already like getting
them over like man, because I just don't want to
leave my babies, but also not have any contact with
any of my family for however long I guess. Now
we know that I was there for at least ten days.
So I was kind of nervous, frightened, had a little anxiety,
(10:17):
and so I put that necklace on and it was
weird because it gave me comfort. Whenever I would look
myself in the mirror, I would see, you know, in
my reflection, I would see my family who I was representing,
and I had a real deep pride to like make
them proud, And so it was a good reminder, like
when things got tough, like to just look down and
(10:38):
know that my little ones who loved me for just me,
they don't really care of the outcome. They just care
that Daddy comes back home and gives me a big hug.
And so it motivated me.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I love that I figured that one of your one
of your kiddo's made that necklace. I'm like, I just
have to hear the story, and I do have to
say if she listens, or if you want to, just
tell her and tell your wife, tell your kids. First
of all, I'd love to meet them at some point someday,
but please tell them from me that for sure, they
(11:14):
should be so proud of you. I mean, obviously it
speaks for itself, like you lasted as long as you've
lasted so far, and you've done such amazing things, but
the fact that you really truly kind of took care
of people like me who I just I just couldn't
(11:36):
do stuff. I just couldn't carry my pack, and I
couldn't run, and I couldn't whatever all these things and
instead of just you know, forging towards the front and
focusing and keeping your head down. You were always looking
out for the little people like me. So thank you
(11:57):
from the bottom of my heart. I like one of
the main reasons I wanted to have you on the podcast.
And I know I've said this in person, but I
want the world to know that you just have such
a huge heart. And I don't know if I could
have I don't know if I would have stayed for
the just two short days that I stayed had you
not been there. So thank you, and they should for
(12:18):
sure be so proud of you.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I know we I really enjoyed my time with you
and everyone else, and I was able to acknowledge that,
you know, maybe I'm going to be physically stronger than
other people, and I always felt like I had more
in the tank and went I went into this like
with a mindset of like, hey, look, there's no like
clear winner in this, Like there's not like we make
it to the end, we get like this huge big
(12:43):
paycheck or anything.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's just like you pass it or you don't.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
And like my goal going into is like, hey, I
want everyone to go as far as they possibly can.
So if I can provide any physical help or mental
emotional support, I'm going to do that. And because it
was always better with us and numbers and so like it. Truly,
it really hurt when, you know, when you finally tapped out.
(13:06):
But I was really proud that you. You know, each
and every mission, you fought as long and as much
as you could. And I was really proud because you
could see, you could see and feel that Trista was
given everything she had even when she didn't have anything left,
and she was trying her best, and you know, eventually
(13:28):
you walked away, and it made me.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Sad, oh golden that morning. I feel like had it
not been so chaotic that morning, I would have stayed.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Like.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It was just so chaotic with the like gunshots or
whatever was in the trash can. It was just so
stressful and I was like, I just my body told
me last night that I it was at its limit,
and now mentally I'm like, I just can't do it.
And you looked at me and you said, I told you.
I pulled you aside and I said, I'm going to go,
(14:00):
said are you sure? I said, I was like yeah,
I just don't want to be a burden anymore. And
I feel like you've given enough of your time to
me that I want you to focus on your your journey.
So yeah, I was ready.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We had hey, I was read.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
I was prepared to help you through the next day
and the next days as much as I possibly could.
But you know, I know, I know, And you made
it back safely and healthy and hopefully mentally in a
good in a decent place. We definitely missed you. But hey,
look I get it. You know that that one song
R Kelly song that we don't really want to use
his name too much, but you know that song.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
My mind is telling me no, but my body, my
body tell me that's how it was on that it
was on mount a few times, like I can, like, god, Lee,
I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Oh my goodness. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So I also want to draw attention to one thing
that I really noticed watching the last episode, and that was,
you know, when we got to the bridge the first day,
the bucks were bad, but they were nothing like when
you guys got back to the bridge to do the
breakman thing. Was it so hard to deal with that? Like,
(15:35):
how did you deal with it. Was it something that
was a problem and they just didn't show you guys
dealing with that because I was like, holy crap, they
are swarming around Billy and anyone who was down waiting
to be the brakeman or whatever.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, it was gnarly.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
It was so gnarly both times when we did the jump,
but also the Brakeman and none stop just smacking your face,
swatting them away for several hours, and you were like
hoping that a breeze would come to just let them go.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Somewhere else, but they just kept picking at you.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
And I remember on the Brakeman when we got back
to Billy who was at the bottom, and I kept
like trying to get him out of here, get him
out of here.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
He's like, what are you scared of? They're just bugs.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I'm like, man, these little things bite and then these
little red marks. Actually, but you know, stop swatting your face.
I I wasn't get in trouble for visiting again and
get stuck in it again, which I was pissed off
that they did not show that an episode.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, okay, you need to tell everybody about it. Please
tell everybody about it right now?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Okay, so day one, Day one, we finally get back
to the living quarters after getting thrown off a boat
and having to swim like a triathlon or something, we hike.
We finally get back and they he Billy makes a
comment of like something that we're doing wrong, and I
just like quickly like kind of pulled my shirt down
to make sure I'm like a uniform.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
And they saying, you know, oh, no, stop feting.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You will be punished for that.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I'm like, dang, the worst.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
You don't want to hear, and everyone like straightens up,
but I get called out, and then eventually everyone goes
to the to see the living quarters, the mess hall,
the showers, the toilets and whatnot. Number nine come with
me and they put me in what we called as
a group, the chicken coop. Okay, the chicken coop is
probably what two feet underground and probably two feet above ground,
(17:31):
so it's high enough where you know, I can't I
can stand, but I can't like fully stand up like
I have to, Like I don't know, it's like a
child's pose, like when a cowld like sits and he's
pooping his diaper or something like that.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
There like mites while everyone's.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Like just jogging around camp, and it became kind of
like a fun little game for me. I was like, man,
maybe I get one of the recruits to look over
here and like me like acting like a chicken.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
And I got a few people.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I remember Brody like looked over and he saw me
being goofy and but so he didn't want to last,
so he was like look straight ahead again, but smirked.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And I think I got a few other people.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
But I was a dang so I get in trouble
as soon as we get on to camp.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But they didn't show that they didn't.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I actually pointed it out to Ryan.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I was like, that is the chicken coop and where
Golden had had to squat, gosh, not sit.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Like, not be on your knees.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You were like you described it perfectly with a kid
pooping in their diaper or something.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I hadn't hurt it, buddy, I played football for twelve years. Okay,
these knees and ankles and toes have been through some
things putting on them boots and then get stuck in
a chicken coop that was brutal.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And not only were you hiking, but you were carrying
somebody else's pack and yeah, you had a pack.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
In the front of the pack in the back. Yeah
eighty pounds.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Even I guess, but I mean I could not believe,
like that's how we started at all.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Man. I was like, dang, that is crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh, I was going to say, you know, one of
the things I thought was that we were talking about,
like even the episode with Trista, the two episodes of Trista,
I was so emotional.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I'm like text her on the side.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I'm like, man, I'm just so proud of you guys,
you know, And I feel like, even though we've only
met a few times, always felt like I knew you.
But I will say this, I think one of the
things that this show has done for a lot of
the people that've been on the show, not that they
need it, is that it's really highlighted things that people
wouldn't know about you otherwise. Right, Like everyone knows you've
been a standout since high school, college, pros, the whole bit,
(19:46):
but they didn't know that you had the ability to
really kind of go deep, you know, and you did.
I was like, like, you and Brody in particular, were
two people that I've known for years from different things
and watching guys on that show, I was like, oh
my god, I feel like I just you know, and
you were right, like the different levels that they go
to with you guys, and how they get you there,
but you weren't afraid to go there emotionally, which I
(20:06):
thought was pretty crazy.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Yeah, thank you, and man, well, thank you so much
for noticing that.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, I kind of went into it, like.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
My foundations work closely with our military veterans. I've always
thought our military veterans are like real life superheroes. Yeah,
I understand the sacrifices that they've given for our freedom.
I've visited Frankfurt, Germany, and Kuwait on the USO tour.
I've always paid homage, and the NFL has like months
(20:37):
dedicated to our military, and I've spent a lot of
time with them and heard stories, but I've never had
a chance to actually live it. And we probably only
lived a tenth of what they actually go through. And
all six recruits, we knew that we were going back
home at some point, and we knew it was going
to be within right now or in ten days. And
(20:59):
that's not the luxury that they have. Like they were
out there not hoping that they were going to go home.
And so I guess the point I was making is
that I took myself mentally to a place that in
every scenario I was going to try to envision that
I was a man or a woman serving our country
and what it was actually going to be like, because
I really wasn't.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Worried about dying. I really wasn't worried.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
You know, I don't like heights, but I know that
I was not going to die on jumping off a bridge.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Was.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I wasn't claustrophobic. I do hate the water.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
They didn't tell about it to me that I wasn't
really scared of like any of that, And so I
was able to take myself before, before, after during every mission, like, man,
what would a soldier actually be thinking right now? And
just those thoughts kind of made me like get really
emotional and tear up.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, I mean, you're you were compassionate to everybody. It was.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It was It was really cool, man, I will say,
you know, being I think Q when we had Q
on we talked about this a little bit trist that
was you know, you you get used to watching everybody
from Afar, right especially with NFL players and stuff, and
you think you know them right, like you think you
know I would think your touchdown dances and you know
your posts.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I'd be like, oh, yeah, he's a funny guy. He
does this and this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But then when you see in those moments and it's like,
you know, oh that's right, they're just a person just
like me. They're going through the same emotions I'm going through,
you know, or whatever. And it was really I thought
it was a really great thing for you, especially the
way that you embrace that side of it, because I'm
sure that's that's got to be something that challenges a
lot of the professional athletes to go on there.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Absolutely absolutely, so thanks for seeing that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, absolutely, man.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I was proud for you, like like I knew, like
I like I knew yet, but yeah, but Trista, Man,
I still say this this day, Trista on that show
to see one of like someone who I've known now
for twenty years very closely, to go through the things
that she went through and just to push to that
next level.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I was impressed, Trista. I really was. You know, I
think I've told you, but it really is the truth.
You did great.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Thank you. I mean, I feel like the two days
is nothing. And actually I don't know your you know,
we have to wait and find out how long you last,
if you last until the very end, golden. But for me,
you know, coming home, I was at you, you know,
I was at such a peaceful place when I left.
I was like, it's the right time. But I have
(23:17):
thought like maybe I should have pushed through and kept going,
you know, and then there's this battle, you know, back
and forth. But gosh, the two days is nothing, I
feel like compared to what you guys have done, the
being freaking.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Buried all lit b.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean, so I don't know what if you've had
any experience with reality television, but obviously I have a
little bit for you know, twenty two whatever years, and
I know that producers are going to ask you. If
they ask you certain questions and you answer them, they're
going to use it against you, you know, against you.
(23:59):
So when they asked what our biggest fears were, I
did not mention being buried alive was one of them.
And I can't just because I knew, okay, maybe they'll
take that and run with it and I'll actually be
buried alive. And I didn't want to give them information,
and you guys actually did it. I think that would
be my worst fear. Was that one of the worst
(24:20):
tasks for you? Or were you able to just mentally
like zen out and deal with it.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
So when we showed up to this I can't remember,
did were you there for the buds training?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, So we showed up to that
same location of the bus training. My heart stopped.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I was like no, no, no, no, no, not long again,
not longer again. Please, I can't, I can't do this again.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
And then it was like, almost like when I heard
when I figured out we were getting buried, it was
kind of like, Okay, I can deal with this, which
was really yeah, because it was like physically, you know,
I'm not going to get crushed now. What was hard
for me again was like once we got in that
box and I understand, I tried to take to like
(25:11):
understand the magnitude of what was actually happening in real
life for men and women, and like that's what kind
of like got me and crushed me, like because like
I said, I wasn't claustrophobic, and you know, I didn't
know if we're going to be in there for thirty
minutes or three hours, it really didn't matter. But it
took me to a place of thinking, like, like, as humans,
(25:31):
we make so many mistakes throughout the day, and you know,
in life, but hours a lot of there's not really
a consequence for our mistake, right, and our men and
women who serve our country and these missions A minor
a minor mistake such as not half your button button
(25:51):
or a shoelace not tied can result in your best
friend being killed at war, and like thinking about thinking about, like, man,
if something, if I were to make, you know, skip
a step in whatever the situation was the result of,
like me having a give American flag to my best
friend's wife and say, hi, I'm sorry that your husband
(26:15):
and also the father and children is no longer coming
home because of the silly, careless mistake I made. And
so I was able to like sit there and think
about that, like how many times has it actually happened?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
At war?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
But it's also made me respect my military is so
much more of the elite discipline that you have to have,
and like, along with that discipline comes like the focused
part of it, controlling your heart rate and very chaotic situations,
and it's it's not something that's easy to do. You
have to train yourself. And so like that's another reason
(26:47):
like I admire them so much. So like kind of
what you're saying, Like it wasn't really the burier being
buried apart, it was like the thought of, like how
we got to this point.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's a great perspective. Lore able to tap into that?
Like is that something that you feel like you've been
able to tap into in normal life? Like getting back
to your real life? Because for me, you know, one
thing I took away, one major thing I took away
from the show is just that I am really lucky.
(27:20):
You know, I live in a country where we have
soldiers who fight for our freedom and I have, you know,
a beautiful family and so many blessings. And I left
with that kind of perspective, and you know, in times
that I get frustrated, I try to remember that, you know,
(27:43):
and tap into that. Is that something that you feel
the same, you know, did you take away the same
kind of things? And are you able to use that
perspective in your daily life?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
You know, it's a space that I'm unfamiliar with, and
at times uncomfortable. I grew up just a little bit different,
and I almost was taught not to feel.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
And so that's where sports placed such a big part
in my life. Is that I didn't grow up the
most fortunate and having dinner every night and having all
the necessities of to be successful in life were at school.
But sports is where I went to feel like I
was okay and that was good enough. And so you know,
(28:30):
I wouldn't change any of that, you know, to the
journey of where I got, but it kind of taught me, like,
you know, perspective is everything, kind of to your question,
is I was taught not to feel, And so I've
been working on that through through professionals of like flocking
into my emotions and understanding like my childhood to how
(28:53):
I got to this point and being you know, more
compassionate because I feel like whenever things would go away
in life, I would just flip the switch off and
try to ignore the emotion, ignore the feelings, and I
would just run away from it and go straight to
like a sports field. It even happens now, like whenever
I get angry at my kids or me and my
wife have a disagreement, instead of like talking about it
(29:15):
and working through it. I run away from it and
I go play a sport or I'm a thirty six
year old that goes and plays Call of Duty or something.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I just kind of avoid those feelings. I've been working
on just trying to like be okay with these feelings.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Likes. My feelings are my feelings.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
I own those for the rest of the time, and
it's okay if I feel a certain way, even though
maybe I shouldn't feel that way, but that's my feelings.
And so acknowledging that is something I went into this
wanting to pay a lot of attention to.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And also perspective.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I think perspective is so key just in life, and
I think it's something that we all need to focus
a little bit more on, because, look, the truth matters.
I can be living in the middle of North Dakota
and I can personally think it is the greatest place
on the entire planet.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
But I can also, in the same sense.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Probably make it make it seem like it's the worst
place on the entire planet.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So it's just how do you think about it? How
do you think about it?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Like being on Special Forces made me really think about
like that what am I really complaining about in life?
Like what really truly matters and what doesn't truly matter?
And like I'm cheating myself If I'm not gonna remember
what was going with like while I was mad next week,
then I need to drop it. And it's hard to
do at times, and so like just kind of you know,
(30:31):
I could have very easily felt sorry for myself, but
instead I said, you know what, instead of feeling sorry
for myself, I'm gonna I know that there's someone who
has it way worse than I am than I do.
In converse, I can probably make an excuse for there's
someone who has it way better than me. But my
cards are my cards, and it's like what I do
with it moving forward. And so I was able to
(30:52):
like go into this thing like with kind.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Of like a.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Like a very broad plan and perspective on it, and
kind of I was able to hang on to it
and kind of focus on those few little pillars.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It almost seems like you made a spiritual journey out
of it too, you know, like I know you were
keeping a journal and you know you were doing things
like that which would really keep you in touch with
those feelings. So you know, that's that's kind of that's
huge man, to be able to go through that, especially
you know where you're at with your life. Like you know,
you were pretty open in the mirror room talking to
the guys like I'm just trying to figure out what's next,
you know, And that's a hard thing for a man
(31:27):
to say, right that you don't know what's next, especially
with all the success you've had. So I can imagine
it's got to you know, it's got to really kind
of hit a nerve. Did you have you gone back
and looked at any of the of the journal entries
that you made while you were on the show, and
have you have they resonated with you at all?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
I read them at the reunion out in LA and
then I I actually keep them in my backpack and
I looked at them from time to time just to
refer to. You know, over time, you just forget details
unless you're telling me every day. So I've forgotten a
few little things and they refer back to it. I'm like,
oh my gosh, Like I giggle, you know, listening to
the theme or the note of the day that I made,
and you know, like kind of like you like you said, like, yeah,
(32:05):
it was. I was very spiritual with it, and I
think I think that's what we as people need to
kind of lean in on a little bit more. I
think we get caught up thinking we need to we can,
and we need to fix every single problem. But the
God that I serve wants us to lean on him
(32:27):
at our weakest moments and let him do the work.
And I promise that if that, if I could just
trust in God's plan and not my own plan, I'm
going to come out of this much more stronger, with
greater perspective, a humble heart, a serving heart, more wisdom,
and a better understanding on what truly matters.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
And so trying to like keep that theme.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
In my mind when I am being pulled by the
enemy to be selfish or to say something that's not factual,
or talk about someone or just act in a not
good way, I just have to remember that and also remember, like, man,
I serve a God that gave it all up for
me and said, being able to like remind myself and
(33:14):
not feel sorry for myself has kind of helped me
and it just makes my problems feel small. And although
these problems are big in this moment, but in the
grand scheme of things, it's really it doesn't matter. And
to people out there that are going through stuff, it's
okay to go through stuff, and there's someone else's going
(33:35):
through stuff. So find you someone that you can talk to,
that you trust and can and can work out of
this this right. But more importantly, like lean on God,
like God has got you, and that we have a
God that's so much bigger than anything we can even
understand and and do my trials, if we just seek
to be closer to our God, I promise you we're
(33:57):
going to come back out of it and be strong longer.
And so sorry to turn this into like a church service, no.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Truth, Yeah that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean, man, you think about it that way, everyone
that goes through this show, especially if they come through
with that kind of perspective, Golden, I mean, it'd be
a whole different.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
World, buddy, I mean, you know, it really would.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I mean, people going through this, I mean it's like
it really is a challenge for everyone, and it's a shame.
It's only what thirteen people or sixteen people or how
many people started the season, I can't remember, Yeah, sixteen people.
So it's shame they don't do it for you know,
a whole lot more, because I think we could all
use it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know, it's nice to hear you say that.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
It was really good that this show, like I think
to our kids and other people like you, didn't show
all of us at our absolute best, when we're all
in our best clothing, make up, fresh haircuts. You showed
us in a very vulnerable state. And you know, we
were all okay with that because we knew we were
signing up. So I thought that said that said a
(34:56):
lot about you know, just like like, hey, it's be
perfect because social media is gonna pay everyone to be
had this perfect life and none of us have none.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, you're so right, No, we sure do not. Okay,
the really pressing question, who do you think is going
to win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
It's a loaded questionnaire.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I was gonna say the Lions three weeks ago. I'll
tell you that much.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Okay. So I'm kind of torn. I'm torn, and I'm
gonna tell you I'm torn because I played with A. J.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Saquon Barclave played with him, and I've always thought the
world of him, and I thought he was the best
one of the He's going to be known as one
of the best runner backs ever play based off his
effort is ethic, work, ethic, and his talent. But at
the same time, like we are able to potentially witness
like history, something that's never been done before. Patrick Mahomes
(36:06):
and Kelsey and any read to three pet and our sport.
I don't know if people really understand how incredibly hard
that is, because the intangibles and the tangibles have pretty
much need to line up for three straight years in
order for you to do that, and no team is
ever the same. I don't care, it's just never the same.
(36:27):
Guys move on to different teams, they retire, coaches go
get better opportunities, guys will get more money.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
And so to have to build.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
A team essentially three years straight and to have that
team and the ultimate team sport click well enough to
be called world champions is so hard to do. And
so I appreciate that on a whole another level because
I was able to win one Super Bowl and it
(36:56):
was very, very very hard to win one that loan
to do it three times in three consecutive years.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I know guys who've played.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
I know guys like Calvin Johnson and Barry, you know
Barry Sanders who played for eight, nine, ten, twelve years
and didn't even make it to the playoffs or didn't
even want a playoff game. And so to be able
to carton the world champion is a big deal. And
so we're witnessing something that is beyond special. So I
encourage people who like are tired of the Chiefs swinning
(37:28):
and I'm tired of seeing Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and
Taylor Swift. Hey, look we're in the presence of greatness,
and hold onto this memory because one thing I have
learned in sport is that the people who are go
toed are typically the people who are not liked. And
because people want to build you up and eventually once
(37:48):
you get there, they want to tear your butty down.
People don't like Lebron for what reason, Because he's great,
he's not getting in trouble. You don't hear much about
him getting in trouble off the court. Right, hated Kobe
pretty much until he passed away, and now we appreciate
him shot me because of whatever reason.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Now we appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Now he's done playing, and so like, enjoy this moment,
you know, with whatever happens. But nonetheless, I think it's
gonna be a great game. I think you're a.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Bunch of superstars all.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
On one field. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty special to
watch that. And so I'm pumped you went.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Were you on the Seahawks team with the year you
guys went back the second year in a row?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Or was that when you went to Detroit?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
That was my first year in Detroit?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Okay, yeah, because I remember I went to that because
I'm good buddies at Warren Moon, and so I went
out to that game, and then the second year I
went out to the second one, and when when the
Seahawks lost, I was like, oh my gosh, I couldn't
be leave it. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting. That's really interesting. Cool,
And I agree with you, man. I mean, I love
Saquon Barkley. I just I'd love to see him win one.
(38:51):
But you're right, I wasn't. I'm one of those tired
of the Chiefs guys. So that resonated with me. I'm
gonna think about it differently.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, I think that's so true. Though we are hopefully
witnessing history. I mean, good football is good football. Hopefully
everyone will watch and hopefully everyone will watch the finale.
I cannot see of Special Forces World Stuffest Test. It's
(39:19):
on Wednesday nights. You can watch on Fox and then
the next night binge it on Hulu. Golden, thank you
so much for coming on the Almost Famous OG podcast.
We are really excited about your podcast. So where can
people find you? And you know, of course the Tate
Tate three, t third Jersey, But where can people find you?
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Well, first off, I can't answer the question. So you
tell me who you got in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Oh, I'll tell you this. I'm buying a bunch of squares.
Just buy a bunch of squares. Had I just want
everyone to have fun.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I think what you said is right right on.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I will be well.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I will be at a dance competition with my daughter
on Sunday, so and she literally has dances from like
nine in the morning until ten at night.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
So I will be at a dance competition.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Unfortunately, actually fortunately because I love dance competitions.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
But I would love.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
To see the game. I know my husband will be
watching and rooting for both of us. But I do
think that it is true like people love to knock
people down. Tom Brady is a perfect example. You know,
you're you're you are the man in football, and everyone
just is a hater, so I feel like, yeah, like
(40:46):
why not lift them up?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
This?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
This is historical, so I have to say, I'm a
Midwestern girl, I gotta go for the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Okay, all right, I'm struggling.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I'm struggling because my team in Madden back in the
day was I would take I would take the Donovan
McNabb Eagles to the super Bowl every year.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And I don't know why it was my team back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I'm Madden, so I'm such a Lions guy, so it's
hard for me to root for anybody else. But I
will say, I am going to have to rethink I was.
I was all Eagles all the way until you just
said what you said. And now I'm starting to wonder
if I'm one of those haters. So I got to
rethink when I'm I got to rethink this. I'm not
so I'm not sick of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
I think it's adorable, so you know, from that perspective,
(41:31):
it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Bug me a bit.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
But but yeah, I think I got to get over
the fact that I feel like sometimes Mahomes uses the
the the rules to his favor, you know, with kind
of drifting to the sidelines and cutting up when everybody
else backs off. That one makes me mad, but but
I get it. He's just smart. So I gotta quit hating.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yea, quit Hayten.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
You can see Showtime with Golden on Spotify, Apple, or
you can watch it on YouTube. We've had some amazing
guests out there so and we'll probably even even once
the season's over, will still be having some contestants. Hopefully
Trusty will come on and join us and we'll have
(42:18):
some fun with it and see what happens.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I would love it. So yes, everyone go listen to
Showtime and follow you on Instagram. I love your recaps
when you're sitting by the by the TV and you're
just like, and this happened, and this happened.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
I think I might go ahead and do like a
whole season recap and like just take like, oh know,
use the actual season as a green screaming I guess,
and then I'll be like, paulse this is what actually
happened here, and maybe do it for each episode, just
will take some time.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That'd be great, you know what, please do that, if
if only just for all of the rest of the recruits,
because part of me wants to write the producers and
ask if we can have like the raw footage, you know,
just so I can actually show my family that I
did these tasks, because they didn't show me doing much
other than crying. So I would love to see the
(43:17):
raw footage. But at least if there's like, you know,
this is this is really what was going down, and
I was in the chicken coop and squatting like I
was pooping my diapers.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
But anyways, yeah, Golden, thank you man, thanks for joining us.
It's been really great getting to reconnect with you a
little bit. And like I said, Man, I think as
a as a viewer who wasn't on the show with
both of you, I think just the you know, the
mental toughness and but also the compassion that you you
(43:49):
specifically show Golden too, you know, the other people on
your team and in your troop and and the cadets.
I think, you know, like Trista always says she was
you were one of her angels, and so I think
it's pretty cool to see that and then to you know, see,
like I said, you and Brody, for whatever reason, have
stood out to me as two of the men on
the show who really kind of you know, showed people
your emotions and showed a different side of you that
(44:11):
that we had never gotten to see before. And I
think that was huge and I think you needed to
do that, but I think it was huge that you
guys have both done that.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I think it really lets people fall in love with
the show.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, you're welcome, Thank you, and would love to come
on the podcast, so you just let me know when.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Alrighty, all right, awesome.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Thanks everybody, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Loved having you.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Pleasure, my pleasure.
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