October 19, 2022 • 47 mins
Clare Crawley is hanging out with our Bachelor OGs Trista Sutter and Bob Guiney and for the first time anywhere… we get a joint interview with her new fiancé Ryan Dawkins!
Clare shares everything about her future with Ryan and we hear a secret about the proposal that NOBODY knows!
Plus, find out which of her Bachelor Nation exes reached out to congratulate her… and which didn’t!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with her radio, right,
and I have no light like I'll match you there now,
I'll at you hang on. Oh thanks is better? But
actually I think but I don't know. Yeah, I'm not
as shiny. That's nice. Hey, shiny is good in my
It's like do we yes, depends on how you describe it,
(00:23):
your do we radio. I've got such a radio podcasting.
I'm not entirely sure what this media. I know. I'm like,
it's podcasting radio. I don't know. Anyway, Welcome to our podcast,
whatever the hell it is, Welcome to it. I'm really
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excited for today. Seven days at least, at least it's
been only seven days, because before that, well maybe before
that it was seven days, and then before that it
was like months. Yes, we took a lot, a little
hiatus man, A lot happen in seven days. Yes, especially
um good news for the person that we're going to
(01:09):
talk to today. I'm so excited. I love her and
have always rooted for I feel like a lot of
people have. Um, it's the one and only Claire Crawley,
and um, she's got some big things that have been
happening in her life and we're excited to talk about
it today. Yes, I'm excited. I think we should bring
(01:31):
her on. I mean, my goodness, this is the biggest
news going on in Bachelor Nation right now. I think
it's pretty spectacular. Yeah, I love it. Okay, let's bring
her in there. She is, well, Hi, how are you?
We're good. I mean, you've got to be on cloud nine. Congratulations,
Thank you so much. It was literally the most unexpected thing.
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We were just living our lives, doing our thing, and
here we are, So it was unexpected. You didn't know, No,
absolutely not. I had no clue. As a matter of fact,
we always we always talked about getting engaged, um and
just our life together just felt so natural and it's
been the same for a long for a while. So
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to me, it was just we were going on a trip.
We were going to the Rise festival, and then we
always joked about We're like, I'm like, when are you
getting engaged? And he's like, three, baby here and so yeah.
Then he pulled it out and I kept trying to
like draw hints to see because I was like, this
is the most beautiful festival. This has been something we
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have been dreaming about to go to, and I was like,
should I get my nails done? And he's like, no,
they look fine, and I was like, well, if I
get him done, I'm gonna do like party wild colors
and he's like, no, totally, that sounds great. When we
were we were leaving for the festival, I was like,
should I brush my hair or do you like a
messy knot? And he's like do it not? You look
hot in a messy not like who cares? And I
(02:57):
was like, okay, well I'm at or not, it's not
happening now because because it's just like do you baby?
You know? He doesn't he doesn't, yes, And afterwards aught
about that, I was like, why did you not at
least tell me to put on waterproof mass scara, like
because I didn't want to make it obvious and I
didn't want you to know. Are you a big surprise
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person to you? Like surprises? I only like surprises when
I don't know what's happening, if that makes sense. Yeah.
So the type of people that are like, I've got
a surprise for you, but I don't want to tell you.
I can't do yeah, don't do it, don't bother? Yeah, yes,
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so you were fully surprised so totally surprised completely and
I as a matter of fact, he even told me
they're like I said, there's parts of me that were like,
this is the perfect time, what this would be so
wonderful because here I am on our first date. Last
year we had talked about I was supposed to go
to the Rice Festival for the first time ever. So
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it was September of last year and it was Rice
Festival at the same time every year, so I was like,
I really want to go to this. And I was
supposed to go with somebody else but got canceled on
and I was like, I'm really bummed because I really
want to go to this thing. And so this year
he was like, let's go together and I I couldn't
have been more happy because it was like we had
talked about this last year. He wanted to do it
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just as much as I wanted to do it, and
it's a really special to it, so you have to
do it. Tris to Oh my god, so Bob, I
wrote her. I saw her photos and I have been
dying to do this as well. It looks so amazing.
I am totally into experiential things, uh, tell her, tell everybody.
So Basically you go out to the Mojabby Desert. It's
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about I want to say, a half hour twenty minutes
outside of Las Vegas and the Lantern Festival. And what
you do is basically, at sunset it was a full moon.
You rite. You each get a huge lantern that's deeply
it's just a paper lantern and it's deflated. You write
your intentions. You write intentions on it. You can write hopes,
dreams for the future, you can write some people write
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notes to loved ones that have passed on. Yeah, it's
a really special moment. And then they've got this really
beautiful music, kind of like yoga music going on, just
super relaxing. It's a beautiful, beautiful environment. I keep when
people ask me about it, I kind of compare it
to like Coachella, but for Yogi's where it's not music
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not gathering up just I want to say, like seven
thousand people were there, but everybody has a little plot
and so you're not stepping on an other. You can
just sit and hang out on your own little plot
and it's it's Yeah. So when I reached out to you,
I actually looked it up and they have a whole
map of where you can go. I was like, where
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do I even look. I mean, they don't have tickets
available for next year yet, but I definitely want to
know all the story, all the scoops. So yeah, that
sounds it's amazing. And then once they set it off.
I'm sure you've seen the videos and stuff like that,
but once they you led him all at the same
time and they go off out into just your little
torch lights up and it sends the lantern up, and
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you see, I mayst want to cry thinking about thousand,
seven thousand lanterns that light up the sky, and it's
just such an emotional, such a special night, and without
the engagement, it was such a special night. So I
was already crying. I was already so happy to me
at one of them. On my lantern, I had written
don't give up and that oh yes, I saw your post.
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I saw that was all That's all I knew about.
It was from your post. Yeah, so I had written
not even we hadn't even gotten obviously, I haven't gotten
engaged yet. I didn't know he was proposing, And I
just felt like where I was last year at this
time compared to this year at this time, I wanted
to give up that and trust me, on everything, I
wanted to give up. I wanted to give up on life.
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I wanted to give up on relationships. I wanted to
give up on being vulnerable and open. It just was
tired of everything. I was tired of the game, tired,
and I thought if I had given up, I wouldn't
be experiencing one of the greatest moments of my life
with the man of my dreams. Right, yeah, I mean
so last year at this time. Um, I mean, obviously
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your mom is you know, you're super close with your mom,
and she's had some has some health struggles and she did.
First of all, she's doing okay. She's thank you for asking.
It's always hard to answer that one, and I have
a hard time to answering people with that question because
she's doing okay, but she's still in hospice. Um. Yeah, though,
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as good as you can be. I guess she's positive.
She's a strong woman, and she loves Ryan, which is
everything to me. Oh my gosh, everything to you. That's
great that she's gotten to know him, all right, I
mean that's such a wonderful thing. Yeah, totally. He comes
with me every time that we're Sacramento, he comes with me.
He'll literally asked, will be like, can I come with
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you to see your mom? And oh, I love I
just love it. Yeah, there's um. She kind of hit
one of those unfortunate milestones recently where um, she didn't
recognize me. And I think it was a momentary thing,
but she didn't. She didn't recognize me. She didn't remember
my name or anything like that, and it was just
(08:24):
a really been a little a little more difficult lately.
And I was sitting with her feeding her dinner the
other day and she looked at me and she was like,
where's Ryan? And I was like, so she knows, she knows,
she knows, you know. Oh, that's got to make you
so happy. I I gotta say, I can't imagine. I
love love in general, but Claire, you know, having gotten
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to know you so many years ago, I'm so excited
for you because you are so deserving of this moment
and it's just so great to see you so happy,
and you know, with a with a guy that obviously
you know, really cares about you and wants to be
there for you. So I'm so happy for you. No,
thank you. It's been a long journey. But I think
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everybody's got a different path and everybody's got a different
journey kind of thing. And I think it doesn't matter
how long it takes you to get there, as long
as you get there and where you want to be.
And here's the other thing too, which I find interesting,
is that I was actually really really happy with being single.
I love in the life. I say that the people
all the time. That's when it happens. I swear, that's
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when it happens when you're like, you know what, I'm good,
I'm finally happy with me. And I mean and you,
you know, you you were very vocal about getting to
that place too, which I think is super inspirational for people.
You know, and I think that because they see you
on TV and they think, oh, everything must just be
great and wonderful. But you were really you know, you
put it out there and you were an open book
about it, and you were finally at this great place
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with yourself and then all of a sudden, here comes
the perfect guy. Right. I think it's just it's a
great message. It's a great message for people to know
if they're like, why can't I find the right person?
It's like you gotta find your first and then then
you haven't. He had to find someone else, you know
exactly that. That's a big part of Ryan eyes relationship
where I haven't shared too much about it, but I've
talked about it, is that he reached out immediately when
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I went through my last breakup, he reached out immediately,
didn't skip a beat, I feel like, and he reached
out and you guys had known each other before that,
or just reached out because he wanted to meet you.
We had known each other before that, and then we
hadn't we'd never met up in person, but we had
met through social media and stayed in contact and kind
of like always messed each other, just stayed friends. He
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was always respectful of my relationship and everything, and even
prior to that, like he was just he's just a
really respectful guy. And so but he knew when I
became single. He reached out and I was at a
very very low point, and he's just the sweetest guy.
He just was so patient and he was like I
had told him I didn't want to go to dinner.
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I didn't have an appetite or anything, and he was like,
let's just get tea, and I remember going. We laughed
about it now, but we went to grab tea and
I was so ill. I hadn't eaten a day. I
just so depressed and struggling. I hadn't got out of
bed days. And he we sat there and I had laughed.
I hadn't laughed in months, you guys, I hadn't laughed
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in a long time, and like genuinely laughed. And we
sat there for four hours and just laughed and laughed
and laughed. And but the biggest when you know, yeah,
that's when you know. But the biggest thing was as
amazing as he was, as great of chemistry as we
had then we had talked about it, and I had
told him because it was a couple maybe a couple
of months that we had been talking after that last breakup,
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and I had told him I still have deep healing
and wounds that I need to heal on my own,
and I want to be able to do that on
my own and not lean on you as a crutch
for that or cover that up with this great new love.
I want to be able to genuinely heal and give
you the best of me. And because he the ongoing
thing is he it was too good to be a rebound,
(12:05):
and so waited until he wasn't and he gave me
up space. He dated other people, I dated other people, UM,
and then we kind of came back together and it
was even better than the first time. Does he live
in Sacramento or did he when you met? No, he
actually lives um in the Oakland Hills, So he lives
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right essentially in my backyard. Okay, got it? Yeah, and
we I still so I have. I moved into mining
house in July, and he has his house here in Oakland,
but I still have that house. He has this house,
and we're just wherever we are, this is his house,
and so wherever we're at we're together. So I we're
in Oakland, we're together. If we're in Sacramento, we're together.
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To do it. We just have them both, and I
want to prioritize. Yeah, I still wanted to have the
space to um live in my own house for a while,
and and also have my house and sacraments for the
time where I want to go see my mom and
I go see your cheek. So it's it's worked out
for brillion. It's an easy it's maybe an hour drive
so it's super easy. I was gonna say, it seems
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really close from my memory. Yeah, yeah, okay, so tell
us about him. Let's let's get the scoop on, right.
It's Ryan Dawkins, Ducks Dukins. He is the greatest. I
feel like he is. So, I mean, for the longest time,
I didn't share a relationship because it didn't matter like that.
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It didn't, It wasn't, there was nothing. It was actually
a priority for me to date a man and to
be with a man that didn't want the faith that
came with the show social media, and that's always that's
always a twist, like like Trista obviously didn't have to
experience this part of it. When you come off the
show and you are single, which you know, we Claire
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and I have both done that. You do you do
sometimes wonder about people's motivations, right, like, you know, why
is this person calling me all the time? Why are they?
You know? It does make you kind of wonder. But
thankfully Trista got it right the first time. She's the
queen of that stuff. So that's not no, I did not.
You were forgetting the Bachelor. Oh yeah, yeah, we know.
(14:20):
The Bachelor has a much better track record than The Bachelor. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean it's it was. You do wonder
about that, right You are kind of like maybe I
just need to be by myself for that reason too. Yep, absolutely,
And I was actually, to be honest, okay, being by myself.
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I feel like single women, single people don't get enough
credit that they I mean it's I loved being single
and I wanted to wait for the right guy that
didn't care about the aspect. Couldn't have any social gain
from me being associated with the show because that could
listen for somebody to want to be m Yeah. Okay,
(15:01):
So he has two daughters, right, and so you're you're
a stepmom now or you're going to be a step
do you guys get married? So how do you feel
about that? Do you love it? I mean, I can
see you fitting perfectly into any any relationship that has
to do with a girl. You're I feel like you're
a girl's girl. The guys guys guy's girl too. But
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I love, love, love his daughters. They are the most snugliest,
sweetest girls ever and they have been so loving to
me and accepting to me, which has meant a lot,
Like they could easy to be like, you're not my mom,
which they've got an amazing mom, and I always try
to remind them like, I'm not trying to come in
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and be your mom. You have an amazing mom that
loves you more than anything in the world. I'm just
here to add love to your life, to add happiness
to your life, and to help your dad. And uh,
I love that you love but like he's blessing, he's
a lover. We were laughing because we were sitting watching
a movie and the girls were at school, and he
(16:05):
was like, why do my girls text you ten times
more than they text me? Like ten to what? But
I just I love them. I genuinely love his daughters,
And it was a big part of why I love
him so much is because he's such an amazing goad
to them, such an amazing Yes, that's such a turn on, Yeah,
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I said. I said that a few years ago to
a friend of mine who was dating a guy with kids,
and I literally said, I'm like, if you don't like
this guy, I'll figure out a way to marry him
because he's such a great dad. Like it's so it's
such a great thing, you know that prioritizing of your
children is like a big deal, especially when I think
when you see people like you guys dating and he's
still putting his kids first. It's pretty spectacular totally, and
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it's the sweetest thing in the world where even this morning,
one of my favorite things to do together is school
drop off, and I just love everything about them all life.
And we did go off together and he he'll get up,
I'll he'll let me. He won't wake me up, And
he'll get up and he'll be making them pancakes, cooking breakfast,
packing their lunches, getting their clothes ready, like he's such
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a good dad to them. And I get up and
they're just all with their backpacks ready for school, and
love him. He's at from the distance listening because you blushing. Um,
oh yeah he's got oh I love um he's he's
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just a really good dad. And it was one of
the things of I got that inside peek of how
he is. And there's some guys who you don't know
when you marry them, if they don't have kids, what
kind of dad they're gonna be, Like, Yeah, yeah, they
could be a not present dad. And he's very present
with his daughters. And I absolutely love that. So okay,
so I know you just got engaged. And I hate
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it when people rush people and they're like, okay, so
when's babies coming? But I know I feel like you've
wanted to be a mom for a while. Yeah, is
that something on the table, Like do you think that
you would like to have children with him? Um? Well,
I have always said, and I know it's so funny
because even publicly, I'm like babies, and I all my friends,
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everybody who knows me knows how much I just love
babies just in general. So the fact that he comes
with two babies already lights up my world. And I
have told him we first started dating, I said, I
know you have two roles. So whether whether our path
is just your two girls another baby added on to that,
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it's our baby, Um, whether we adopt a baby, whether
we whatever it is because I'm older, whatever it looks like.
Even if it's only his two girls, it's his two girls,
and that those are children in my life. That's what
I wanted to family. So however that's going to work out,
we haven't. Really. We're deciding that we're figuring that out,
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but not in a rush to fail out. And I
feel I've always kind of joked about, like, I know,
I'm forty one, but I'm like, I'm a child bride.
Don't ask me. Like nowadays, women there are so many
options to children at any age. Who's the one that's
pregnant now with twins at what forty eight? Hilary Swank. Yeah, yeah,
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she's like, so people like to say this, Oh, you're
so old and you're just too old Baines and that,
but I feel like we are so much times are
different now, we are so much down. Yeah, and medical
technology has come up. I mean, Claire, I'm fifty one
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and I have a three year old and one year old,
so anything, you know, it's totally doable. But they were
calling but to be fair, they were calling my I mean,
my wife wanted to kill him. But you remember meeting
and and I'm sure Claire when we were in l
a years ago together, but she got pregnant with our
second she was thirty five, and they called her a
geriatric pressent. I literally thought she was gonna kill somebody.
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That is the most outdated. They need to raise that
bar because they're giatric, they're healthy, just older having children,
and it's yeah, I think it honestly varies at different
parts of the world to helpful, because I feel like
even in the United States, in New York, the average
age of women having children is a lot older than
in Middle Yeah. Yeah, because they put their careers first
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or whatever. Yeah, it's a lot different. So I will
say this is that Ryan. We've talked about it. Ryan's
open to anything and everything. So it's not like I've
got my two girls, I don't want children. Do you
still want to be with me? It's it's not like
that at all. It's he is like, I want what
you want and I'm down for that. As long as
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you're together. Who cares? I love it. So he's a
big triathlete, right, yes, Oh my gosh, tell me why
he can? I brab for one seconde he did? Yes? Please?
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He is such an athlete just naturally. I am alway.
He's had this triathlon for not traffling this iron Man
for the last couple of months. He's been planning for it,
but has not he worked out, like he's gone on
jogs and runs. But I know how that is. Yeah,
he went out and amazing, like are you not dead?
He went't hiked in the next morning, up and a
(21:36):
camel dock's recovery. It must be something in the name.
The name Ryan makes these people like superhuman athletes. It's exacting.
I agree, Yes, how is Ryan doing? How is he doing?
He's good, He's you know, he's got his up and
down days. But um, thank you for asking. Um, he's good,
he's I don't know if you read or heard about it.
(21:58):
We don't need to get into it. But he's sticking
himself with honey beats be venom therapy. I was just
talking about that the other day to Run. I was
showing them a video on it, and because I'm not
even realizing that you guys do it, but it has
been so beneficial to people in so many ways. I
alternative therapies, and I believe deep. Talking to Ryan about
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it was like ran when we were in uh where
were we? Like Tahoe and Ryan. Ryan and I had
had like half an hour conversation about it, and I
was my mind was blown. I'm like, wait a minute,
you intentionally sting yourself with bees. I would like start
bawling like a baby, but he was like telling yeah,
it's crazy, Yeah, we need to bring him on. Yeah,
(22:41):
you know, well, it's funny because I don't know if
I would because last week I think something was wrong
with me. I can't remember what was wrong. And you
can use it for everything, like you can you can
do use be venom therapy for everything. And maybe I
was just feeling bad. I think I was just feeling yucky.
He's like, well, why don't you do a couple of stings.
I'm like, oh no, not happening a couple of Yeah,
(23:02):
I just can't. It's a little house. It's a little house,
um that that lives in our pantry and we just
ordered more. They came via FedEx y from from an aviary.
It's crazy, um because here in Colorado, they you can't
get them anymore. They're in their hives for the like
(23:23):
the cold season. But um yeah, he is still stinging
and he has his ups and downs. But thank you
for asking. He's good. I mean, the thing is, I
know that triathlon life, that triathlete life, and I feel
like it's funny because I was never interested. Like never,
I was like, okay, you do you. I'll do a
(23:44):
five k with you every so often, maybe, but I'm
not even close to like even thinking about marathons. But
You've done a bunch of races, haven't you. I have.
I Actually, that's one thing that's changed in my life.
Is that. A couple of years ago, when I was
super sick with my breast implants, when I had them in, um,
(24:04):
I could barely walk. I could barely walk. I was
so sick. I was doing my best, but it would
take all of my energy just to function normally. So
working out above that, doing anything above that, it was
extremely hard. I was more yoga, light plodies. Those were
my workouts. And now with Ryan, he actually, um, he
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just I believe, bought a marathon and so he his
job is no, wait, how do you do that? I
don't know people own marathons, but it's a thing. So
he but he literally puts on races and that's his
job is too. Yeah, he's worked for the Giants, He's
done a bunch of that stuff. So he is very
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much into running. And I want to be with him
a lot. I love being with him, and so when
he goes and does these things, it's in like this weekend,
we have one in Dallas, and I'm like, I want
to come to Dallas with you, and so I'm gonna
go the running running run the one in Dallas. So
he works it, I run it, and then I just
meet him at the end. That's awesome. But he love it.
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I think that to me is a sign of one
of the signs of a good partner is that if
you make each other's lives better. And he's always encouraging me,
always like, let's do this. I want to do it.
I want to, you know, run with him, and so
it's it's really made my life better and improved my life.
That's awesome. Yeah, well you look great. You look so happy.
(25:30):
You're just radiating happiness. I love it. You're that person.
I mean, we all adore you, and it's just like
so great to see you just find the right person
and just hit that next level, you know. Seriously, especially
after one Pablo, you know what, I feel like that
was it was all for a purpose. It was all
(25:51):
for a purpose. Even going that with one Pablo. It
was a pivotal moment in my life for standing up
for myself to a on That was the first time
I had ever done that. It was right after an
a piece of relationship. If I've shared that before, but
it was a moment that I had that I needed
to be able to stand up for myself. So I
am thankful for that moment as well. Yeah, that's crazy
(26:13):
that I remember meeting you right after that, and I
was just like I loved first of all, I loved
that season because I made me feel so good about myself, like,
oh wait, this guy is way worse than me. No,
but it was like one of those things where I
loved you standing up to him. I loved everything you said,
and it was like, you know, then we I just
(26:35):
along the way. You know. It was just like you
just built such a bigger and bigger following of people
that and then you impacted him so much by being
so open and honest, you know. And I think it's
just I just love. I love the whole full circle.
And I agree you've got to go through those bumps
in the road and that's all part of your story
before you arrive where you need to be, you know.
And and I'll tell you to thank you for a thing.
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I'll tell you too. And I feel like this is
an important thing is that I am extremely extremely happy
now and everybody, even in my comments, people are like, oh,
you're going You're happier this year that I I was
happy not being in a relationship with Ryan. This happiness
came from me. This happiness came from healing. This happiness
(27:16):
came through doing the hard work of kind of trudging
through the emotional crap that I needed to get rid
of and the heaviness and the forgiveness that I needed
to experience in my own life. That's where this happiness
has come from. And Ryan adds to it, and I'm
grateful for him for but this happiness was a long
time coming and a lot of therapy and a lot
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of work within myself and a self work. So that's
where this is where eaten from. And that's how I'm
able to have a healthy relationship now, is because I've
done the work. That's that's where I get the happiness.
That's where I sources. So even if Ryan left, God forbid,
if he left tomorrow, I would still have this happiness. Yeah,
(27:59):
you laid happiness foundation and now you both can build
a house on it. So I think it's beautiful. I mean,
I'm here for you, Bob. No, I don't let any
man ever again break me. So with that strengthen that
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foundation for myself. Do not let a man bring me
that level ever. Again. Okay, so I have to ask.
I mean, if you want to shut me down, shut
me down, But I just want to know if any
of your ex is have reached out since hearing the news.
Totally totally I have. They have. Yeah, I've dated some
really amazing guys. I will tell you there are absolutely
(28:46):
ones that have not and one and we could probably
guess which one. I will see one if you'd like.
But UM, to me, it's very telling of I care.
I feel like there's a meme about this, or like
some quote about this, but how how I treat you
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as a reflection of how you treated me. So if
you think that I'm awful, what did it take for
me to get there? You know, like I'm not. I'm
not brat for no reason. I don't have an attitude
for no reason. I'm not difficult for no reason. You're
good to me, I'm good to you and my expending
such a good friend, the sweetest got out. Yeah, and
(29:30):
even guys prior to ben Well that I've dated um
have totally reached out and are just the sweetest things
in the entire world in our congratulations and just really kind,
really kind of Yeah, you get you get what you
give right, yeah, yeah, the golden rule. Yeah, how you
want to be treated right? Yep? Um okay, So two
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more questions that I have and then Bob you can
you can take over if you want. But are you
I'm sure it just I know it just happened. But
do you have visions of a of a a wedding
in mind? Like, do you know kind of what you
want to do? I've we've definitely thought about it. I
want a very simple wedding. I've always wanted that. For
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my years of being a hair stylist, I did way
too many bride's hair. Oh I said, oh my gosh,
the sweetest bride I rolled you will. I always were like,
they're gonna be an easy bride. They're super calm, they're
super laid back. They were bridezillas. I just feel like
I don't want to put the energy and the stress
(30:34):
to worry about other people on my special day or
are a special day. So I want really simple I
actually I will tell you this. We want two weddings.
I love. So you're gonna have destination wedding. Yes, I
want one because my mom is not able to travel
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or do anything like that. Um, and to be around
a lot of people. It's kind of over it's overwhelming
for her, and I just want a special moment with
her as to have us really just a small intimate ceremony. Um,
we had that, Ryan, we had I don't know if
you could actually nobody knows this, but Ryan proposed twice
to me once he did Yeah for the actually we
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have here's this funny story. We have actually there proposals.
So he proposed to meet the Rise festival. Then we
came back to Sacramento and he oh, it's amice want
to cry every time. But he asked my mom for
her blessing again, and um, when he did that, he
(31:38):
got down on a knee again and in front of
my mom proposed to it, which is yeah and then yeah,
and then we are very progressive people. And so I
actually I didn't get down on a knee, but I
proposed to him as well. So if people see him
his finger, it's because I proposed to him as well.
(31:59):
So we he thought, if you get to wear a ring,
why don't I get to wear a ring. Here's a
almost famous O. G. First, we're all crying, so that's good,
really special moments. So he he knows how much my
mom means to me, how important she is in our lives,
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and so yeah, he proposed twice, so I want her to.
He also was like, wants her to be there for
the wedding, and we don't know. Time is precious and
time is limited, so we want one with her to
a small intimate thing, and then one I want another
small one, but just something more of like with his
girls and us and something something and maybe a destination
(32:42):
that Yeah, I love it. I don't even want to
ask my next question because that was just like the
perfect like I just love that conversation. I am just
so happy for you. Thank you so much, happy, seriously,
thank you. I appreciate that so much. And you can
literally ask anything, like I'm an open book with it
(33:02):
all if oh, I know, I just want to thank
you for coming on our little show to share it
when it's so nice. Of course, seriously, I have to
say this time, I love sharing the story, but I
love sharing my love and the story righting us and
details of us because it really is a special relationship
to me and I'm proud of this one and happy
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about this one. And he really does light me up.
So you can see it's all over your face. I
love it. Okay, I am going to ask the question
because I do kind of just want to know. I
(33:45):
was watching your stories, I think yesterday or maybe the
day before, and you had like a little Q and
A with him, which was so cute, by the way,
And one of the questions that came up was has
he watched the show? Do you plan on? Does he
plan on watching the show? Because I know he kind
of joked about it in the story like, well, now
(34:06):
I want to see it, But is that true or
was he just joking like will you guys watch it together?
Bachelor in Paradise? Are you watching all the things? I
don't know. He's he's very which I told him in
the beginning. I need a very stable guy who was
comfortable with my past and who was comfortable with everything
about me, because that's what makes me me, is everything
(34:27):
I've been so whether it's relationships, whether it's like we
talked about stuff all the time, we talked about guys
I've dated, he's been on the phone or I've been
on the phone with an X, Like he's amazing. So
he's he just kind of laughs it at all and
it's kind of like whatever and find it funny. But
I don't know, right, let's ask him, you guys can
(34:48):
ask him. Let's ask him. Yes, I love it, Do
you do you want to watch the show? So I
asked her, I was watching the stories, um, yesterday or
the day before when she did that little cute Q
and A when you guys were cooking together, and uh
and and I know that you joked and said, oh,
(35:09):
well i'll watch now. Um. But I was like, was
he joking or or was that true? Do you have
any interest in watching? I definitely would and maybe if
we watched it, well, probably watched together, laugh together and
be like yes. See. That's that's the only problem. I
will tell you. We tried to watch my season my
my wife and I and they don't have VHS tapes anymore,
(35:32):
so it was really difficult. So needless to say, I've
got to bounce that stuff over to a DVD format
at some point because that will be outdated soon. Anyway,
I have to convert that. Yeah, I love it, Yeah,
but we I think we could probably laugh watch it laugh.
I think that's the best way to watch it. But
I mean, honestly, I feel like, what you need to
(35:53):
show him is is maybe the moment where you told
one Pablo off because that's kind of like a big
part of who you are, you know, like how you
shared it was a pivotal moment for you. Um, I
think you need to watch that. Ryan. I think we've
had We've had times, we've had like he probably knows,
not probably he knows about it all. I've told him
(36:14):
all the even the behind the scenes of everything with
a lot of it. So like he's then he'll put
an actual video to with the stories that I've told. Yeah,
I did that with my life too. I was so
like up front, I'm like, I just never want you
to be surprised by anything. So here you go, you know,
here is everything, this is what really happened, this is
(36:34):
what you saw on TV, that kind of stuff. And
it's easy. It's easy. And it's like, if you have
a problem with anything that I've done, that's not accepting
me completely. Holy. So when you come into this race relationship,
you gotta know you gotta love me for my good,
for my bad, for everything that I've been through, because
that's what makes me me. He knows, I mean, all
(36:56):
of his stuff, that's what makes me I'd love and
accept him for who he as well. Everybody's got a
pass and that's what gets you get to your present,
you know. So it's like without it, you wouldn't be
who you are. I love that. I think it's awesome. Yeah,
I'm excited for you. I have I have one question
for Ryan. Um, well, before you go, were you at
iron Man Hawaii in two thousand four Hawaii? Are? Oh?
(37:27):
It is so? My husband has done um some iron
Man races as well and expas and stuff. Yes, it
was so incredible, such an amazing experience. Um, but I
have no interest in doing it myself on like unlike Claire, Well,
at least the race part. Yeah, definitely. I mean that's
(37:47):
pretty intenselated right now. I feel like if, right if
Ryan Sutter walked in and was on the camera, I'd
just be like, really, guys, really on bookended two Super
Ryan's and then there's stuff anyway, you have yourself, Thank you, right,
thank you for talking? Um, Okay, before I keep saying this,
(38:11):
one last question. You haven't produced sweatshirt on? Where is
that yours? Or? Right? Girl? Are you kidding me? This
is neither one of us. I have such a fascination,
lazy with getting vintage sweatshirts, and oh my god, that
that is my jamp so no perdue for me. I went, okay,
got it community college for my cosmetology degree. Not that's okay,
(38:36):
But I'm telling you, vint sweatshirts are my things fall,
so okay, share them with me because I'm all about
it too, all about the cozy, all about leggings. Look
very comfortable. We are cozy, were cozy. Thank what's your say?
Oh veil, oh Veril, gotcha, gotcha? You gotta represent the
(38:59):
hood in the hoodie fancy. You're just fancy right now.
You know, we were going to do some family photos today,
so I'm trying to go. I'm trying to find my luck.
Are you for Christmas cards? Not yet, now, I says.
You know, I'm in Michigan and the fall colors are
so beautiful, so I wanted to try and take advantage.
And I got all gussied up and then it started raining. Okay, yeah, yeah,
(39:25):
not today, not today. I'm sorry. Well that's okay. You
look nice for the pod, you look at it. I
wore this little digit sweatshirt tied. You guys both look
adorable come on, come on, so good. I love I
love this chat. We are you as you know, we're
the o G s and because you are your your
(39:47):
you are an OG especially because we're kind of in
Bachelor in Paradise season, so you're legit o G guy's
for sure. Yeah yeah and obviously a huge fan favorite.
I mean unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. Do you regret bash My
Paradise said, oh, did you youret going on there? I
don't regret anything in my life, but I do. It
was it was one of the more challenging things for
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me because in the o G seasons there was not
an alcohol limit for people, and right that's the only
thing there was to do on the beach was just
get hammered. And I don't drink, and so for me,
I'm sure I just too cool because but I wasn't.
It was just like I don't drink, so I'm bored,
(40:31):
and I just kind of isolated myself and which just
wasn't my vibe. It wasn't my thing. I thought going
on there it would be like zip lines and adventures
and horsebock kings and boat rides and whatever, like a
lot of just swimming in the ocean. But it was
just too dang hot. There was nothing. You couldn't even
get on the beach without heat stroking. So it was
(40:52):
just really yeah, a lot of sitting around and just
drinking for people. And I was just sitting around and
being like boring. And then the whole raccoon conversations happened.
You come on the amount of people who were like,
(41:15):
why would you talk to a raccoon? How stupid? I mean,
come on, well, now we know you and the raccoon
were the only two that weren't hammered, so it makes sense. Yeah,
I know there's points where I wish I drank but
did not. You know what, though, you can thank you
lucky stars for that. Once you see like the edits
(41:36):
back and you're like the only one that doesn't say
anything dumb. You're like, conversation with raccoon, I'll take that,
I take I'll take that over. I probably did dump
things too, but like I couldn't blame it on the alcohol.
You know, maybe yes I wasn't Okay, Yeah, I was drunk,
all right. Well, cheers to you even though you don't drink.
(41:57):
Cheers to you and Ryan and huge gratulations. We are
just so happy for you. Thank you, thank you. I
just love your love. I love your love, I love
your happiness. I love the light that shines from within you.
So well, thank you, Thank you guys so much for
having me on. I know when they when they told
me I could come on with you guys, I was like, yes,
(42:18):
I want to talk to you guys so much more.
I feel like the new the new generation of people
on the show. I'm like, I could be their moms.
We could be their moms, and the same I am
turning fifty. I'm turning fifty, so uh do not look fifty.
(42:40):
Thank you at all. Thank you, But but I say
that I feel that because these kids are like twenty whatever,
and if I had kids in my late twenties, they
could totally be my children. And I do. I have
said that in the past, they feel. I feel very
maternal towards everyone, even even Bob, even though Bob's older
than me. I'm just incredibly mature. I make it easy
(43:04):
a child. I feel the same way most the same way.
So you can come on any time, and before you go,
I have to see the ring. You flashed it flashed it.
Oh wow, that is beautiful. Thank you so much amazing.
(43:29):
Yes he did. I always told him. I was like,
just so you know, there's a lot to live up
to in the bachelor world as far as like proposals
or rings, Like just so you know, I'm happy to
even just have a happy relationship. That's what that's for.
The ring doesn't matter, the proposal doesn't matter. You can
do it in bed watching a movie. I don't care. Totally. Yeah, yeah,
(43:52):
he went above and beyond and it was the most
speckful thing and the most beautiful ring. That's gorgeous. And
your nails look on points. You were ready. I had to.
I've done afterwards because they were not done when I
love the glazed, the glaze, the dips, got the dip.
(44:18):
Bob knows more than me. Love it. Thank you, Claire.
We love you, Claire. Congratulations. So happy for you. Thank
you so much you guys. I love you guys too,
and I appreciate you guys just thinking about me, having
me on, it means a lot, of course, it means
a lot for you to come on. So thank you
and give Ryan a big hug for us for coming
(44:40):
and popping in because I know he was probably like,
why do I have to do this, but guy, he's
a tech guy. We need his help, ye to help.
He's not he doesn't want to hug the camera and
you know what, bonus bonus right don't? Yeah? Awesome, Thank
(45:02):
you Claire, so much love, so much love, and I
appreciate your having me on take care of Claire. Thanks
for coming by Claire. You had such great question her. Well, honestly,
it's like having a conversation with a girlfriend because she
is one of my girlfriends, you know, like we Actually
(45:23):
it's funny because I'm thinking about it now. I'm going
to go do this right now. On our bachelorette um
group chat, we usually say happy birthday to everybody, and
no one has come on and said congratulations on her
on her engagement. So I'm gonna go do that before
I actually forget. Definitely do that. But yeah, I just
(45:46):
love her and her attitude. I feel like, you know,
she said it, it's easy to get down about stuff,
especially when you've been through all the things and are
still going through, like especially with her mom that she's
been through, that she's going through, and to have that
positive attitude, I feel like it's just so mature and
(46:07):
so important, and you know, she's raving about Ryan. But
I have to say, Ryan, if you're listening to this Dawkins,
you have found a keeper to Oh no doubt beautiful.
I've always thought that about her since the first time
I met her. We just got along so well. She
was super cool. We had a great time together, and
she's obviously very beautiful and and you know, has done
a lot of her life as well. But I just
(46:29):
always really liked her spunkiness, like her attitude about stuff
and m and man, I mean from the second she
came on you, I mean, you see you just see
that that glow and and like she said, though, that
all comes from within. She got that before she even
met you know, Ryan again. And so that's just great
to see someone who you know is in the rights place.
(46:49):
You know, it's just so confident I could say that
confidently about her, you know. Agreed, agreed. So thank you.
So this has been another edition to almost famous the
O G S. Yeah, thanks for listening. Thanks for listening.
(47:11):
H
This is the almost famous podcast with her radio, right,
and I have no light like I'll match you there now,
I'll at you hang on. Oh thanks is better? But
actually I think but I don't know. Yeah, I'm not
as shiny. That's nice. Hey, shiny is good in my
It's like do we yes, depends on how you describe it,
(00:23):
your do we radio. I've got such a radio podcasting.
I'm not entirely sure what this media. I know. I'm like,
it's podcasting radio. I don't know. Anyway, Welcome to our podcast,
whatever the hell it is, Welcome to it. I'm really
(00:46):
excited for today. Seven days at least, at least it's
been only seven days, because before that, well maybe before
that it was seven days, and then before that it
was like months. Yes, we took a lot, a little
hiatus man, A lot happen in seven days. Yes, especially
um good news for the person that we're going to
(01:09):
talk to today. I'm so excited. I love her and
have always rooted for I feel like a lot of
people have. Um, it's the one and only Claire Crawley,
and um, she's got some big things that have been
happening in her life and we're excited to talk about
it today. Yes, I'm excited. I think we should bring
(01:31):
her on. I mean, my goodness, this is the biggest
news going on in Bachelor Nation right now. I think
it's pretty spectacular. Yeah, I love it. Okay, let's bring
her in there. She is, well, Hi, how are you?
We're good. I mean, you've got to be on cloud nine. Congratulations,
Thank you so much. It was literally the most unexpected thing.
(01:52):
We were just living our lives, doing our thing, and
here we are, So it was unexpected. You didn't know, No,
absolutely not. I had no clue. As a matter of fact,
we always we always talked about getting engaged, um and
just our life together just felt so natural and it's
been the same for a long for a while. So
(02:13):
to me, it was just we were going on a trip.
We were going to the Rise festival, and then we
always joked about We're like, I'm like, when are you
getting engaged? And he's like, three, baby here and so yeah.
Then he pulled it out and I kept trying to
like draw hints to see because I was like, this
is the most beautiful festival. This has been something we
(02:34):
have been dreaming about to go to, and I was like,
should I get my nails done? And he's like, no,
they look fine, and I was like, well, if I
get him done, I'm gonna do like party wild colors
and he's like, no, totally, that sounds great. When we
were we were leaving for the festival, I was like,
should I brush my hair or do you like a
messy knot? And he's like do it not? You look
hot in a messy not like who cares? And I
(02:57):
was like, okay, well I'm at or not, it's not
happening now because because it's just like do you baby?
You know? He doesn't he doesn't, yes, And afterwards aught
about that, I was like, why did you not at
least tell me to put on waterproof mass scara, like
because I didn't want to make it obvious and I
didn't want you to know. Are you a big surprise
(03:20):
person to you? Like surprises? I only like surprises when
I don't know what's happening, if that makes sense. Yeah.
So the type of people that are like, I've got
a surprise for you, but I don't want to tell you.
I can't do yeah, don't do it, don't bother? Yeah, yes,
(03:41):
so you were fully surprised so totally surprised completely and
I as a matter of fact, he even told me
they're like I said, there's parts of me that were like,
this is the perfect time, what this would be so
wonderful because here I am on our first date. Last
year we had talked about I was supposed to go
to the Rice Festival for the first time ever. So
(04:02):
it was September of last year and it was Rice
Festival at the same time every year, so I was like,
I really want to go to this. And I was
supposed to go with somebody else but got canceled on
and I was like, I'm really bummed because I really
want to go to this thing. And so this year
he was like, let's go together and I I couldn't
have been more happy because it was like we had
talked about this last year. He wanted to do it
(04:24):
just as much as I wanted to do it, and
it's a really special to it, so you have to
do it. Tris to Oh my god, so Bob, I
wrote her. I saw her photos and I have been
dying to do this as well. It looks so amazing.
I am totally into experiential things, uh, tell her, tell everybody.
So Basically you go out to the Mojabby Desert. It's
(04:46):
about I want to say, a half hour twenty minutes
outside of Las Vegas and the Lantern Festival. And what
you do is basically, at sunset it was a full moon.
You rite. You each get a huge lantern that's deeply
it's just a paper lantern and it's deflated. You write
your intentions. You write intentions on it. You can write hopes,
dreams for the future, you can write some people write
(05:08):
notes to loved ones that have passed on. Yeah, it's
a really special moment. And then they've got this really
beautiful music, kind of like yoga music going on, just
super relaxing. It's a beautiful, beautiful environment. I keep when
people ask me about it, I kind of compare it
to like Coachella, but for Yogi's where it's not music
(05:29):
not gathering up just I want to say, like seven
thousand people were there, but everybody has a little plot
and so you're not stepping on an other. You can
just sit and hang out on your own little plot
and it's it's Yeah. So when I reached out to you,
I actually looked it up and they have a whole
map of where you can go. I was like, where
(05:50):
do I even look. I mean, they don't have tickets
available for next year yet, but I definitely want to
know all the story, all the scoops. So yeah, that
sounds it's amazing. And then once they set it off.
I'm sure you've seen the videos and stuff like that,
but once they you led him all at the same
time and they go off out into just your little
torch lights up and it sends the lantern up, and
(06:10):
you see, I mayst want to cry thinking about thousand,
seven thousand lanterns that light up the sky, and it's
just such an emotional, such a special night, and without
the engagement, it was such a special night. So I
was already crying. I was already so happy to me
at one of them. On my lantern, I had written
don't give up and that oh yes, I saw your post.
(06:36):
I saw that was all That's all I knew about.
It was from your post. Yeah, so I had written
not even we hadn't even gotten obviously, I haven't gotten
engaged yet. I didn't know he was proposing, And I
just felt like where I was last year at this
time compared to this year at this time, I wanted
to give up that and trust me, on everything, I
wanted to give up. I wanted to give up on life.
(06:58):
I wanted to give up on relationships. I wanted to
give up on being vulnerable and open. It just was
tired of everything. I was tired of the game, tired,
and I thought if I had given up, I wouldn't
be experiencing one of the greatest moments of my life
with the man of my dreams. Right, yeah, I mean
so last year at this time. Um, I mean, obviously
(07:21):
your mom is you know, you're super close with your mom,
and she's had some has some health struggles and she did.
First of all, she's doing okay. She's thank you for asking.
It's always hard to answer that one, and I have
a hard time to answering people with that question because
she's doing okay, but she's still in hospice. Um. Yeah, though,
(07:42):
as good as you can be. I guess she's positive.
She's a strong woman, and she loves Ryan, which is
everything to me. Oh my gosh, everything to you. That's
great that she's gotten to know him, all right, I
mean that's such a wonderful thing. Yeah, totally. He comes
with me every time that we're Sacramento, he comes with me.
He'll literally asked, will be like, can I come with
(08:03):
you to see your mom? And oh, I love I
just love it. Yeah, there's um. She kind of hit
one of those unfortunate milestones recently where um, she didn't
recognize me. And I think it was a momentary thing,
but she didn't. She didn't recognize me. She didn't remember
my name or anything like that, and it was just
(08:24):
a really been a little a little more difficult lately.
And I was sitting with her feeding her dinner the
other day and she looked at me and she was like,
where's Ryan? And I was like, so she knows, she knows,
she knows, you know. Oh, that's got to make you
so happy. I I gotta say, I can't imagine. I
love love in general, but Claire, you know, having gotten
(08:47):
to know you so many years ago, I'm so excited
for you because you are so deserving of this moment
and it's just so great to see you so happy,
and you know, with a with a guy that obviously
you know, really cares about you and wants to be
there for you. So I'm so happy for you. No,
thank you. It's been a long journey. But I think
(09:07):
everybody's got a different path and everybody's got a different
journey kind of thing. And I think it doesn't matter
how long it takes you to get there, as long
as you get there and where you want to be.
And here's the other thing too, which I find interesting,
is that I was actually really really happy with being single.
I love in the life. I say that the people
all the time. That's when it happens. I swear, that's
(09:29):
when it happens when you're like, you know what, I'm good,
I'm finally happy with me. And I mean and you,
you know, you you were very vocal about getting to
that place too, which I think is super inspirational for people.
You know, and I think that because they see you
on TV and they think, oh, everything must just be
great and wonderful. But you were really you know, you
put it out there and you were an open book
about it, and you were finally at this great place
(09:50):
with yourself and then all of a sudden, here comes
the perfect guy. Right. I think it's just it's a
great message. It's a great message for people to know
if they're like, why can't I find the right person?
It's like you gotta find your first and then then
you haven't. He had to find someone else, you know
exactly that. That's a big part of Ryan eyes relationship
where I haven't shared too much about it, but I've
talked about it, is that he reached out immediately when
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I went through my last breakup, he reached out immediately,
didn't skip a beat, I feel like, and he reached
out and you guys had known each other before that,
or just reached out because he wanted to meet you.
We had known each other before that, and then we
hadn't we'd never met up in person, but we had
met through social media and stayed in contact and kind
of like always messed each other, just stayed friends. He
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was always respectful of my relationship and everything, and even
prior to that, like he was just he's just a
really respectful guy. And so but he knew when I
became single. He reached out and I was at a
very very low point, and he's just the sweetest guy.
He just was so patient and he was like I
had told him I didn't want to go to dinner.
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I didn't have an appetite or anything, and he was like,
let's just get tea, and I remember going. We laughed
about it now, but we went to grab tea and
I was so ill. I hadn't eaten a day. I
just so depressed and struggling. I hadn't got out of
bed days. And he we sat there and I had laughed.
I hadn't laughed in months, you guys, I hadn't laughed
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in a long time, and like genuinely laughed. And we
sat there for four hours and just laughed and laughed
and laughed. And but the biggest when you know, yeah,
that's when you know. But the biggest thing was as
amazing as he was, as great of chemistry as we
had then we had talked about it, and I had
told him because it was a couple maybe a couple
of months that we had been talking after that last breakup,
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and I had told him I still have deep healing
and wounds that I need to heal on my own,
and I want to be able to do that on
my own and not lean on you as a crutch
for that or cover that up with this great new love.
I want to be able to genuinely heal and give
you the best of me. And because he the ongoing
thing is he it was too good to be a rebound,
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and so waited until he wasn't and he gave me
up space. He dated other people, I dated other people, UM,
and then we kind of came back together and it
was even better than the first time. Does he live
in Sacramento or did he when you met? No, he
actually lives um in the Oakland Hills, So he lives
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right essentially in my backyard. Okay, got it? Yeah, and
we I still so I have. I moved into mining
house in July, and he has his house here in Oakland,
but I still have that house. He has this house,
and we're just wherever we are, this is his house,
and so wherever we're at we're together. So I we're
in Oakland, we're together. If we're in Sacramento, we're together.
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To do it. We just have them both, and I
want to prioritize. Yeah, I still wanted to have the
space to um live in my own house for a while,
and and also have my house and sacraments for the
time where I want to go see my mom and
I go see your cheek. So it's it's worked out
for brillion. It's an easy it's maybe an hour drive
so it's super easy. I was gonna say, it seems
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really close from my memory. Yeah, yeah, okay, so tell
us about him. Let's let's get the scoop on, right.
It's Ryan Dawkins, Ducks Dukins. He is the greatest. I
feel like he is. So, I mean, for the longest time,
I didn't share a relationship because it didn't matter like that.
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It didn't, It wasn't, there was nothing. It was actually
a priority for me to date a man and to
be with a man that didn't want the faith that
came with the show social media, and that's always that's
always a twist, like like Trista obviously didn't have to
experience this part of it. When you come off the
show and you are single, which you know, we Claire
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and I have both done that. You do you do
sometimes wonder about people's motivations, right, like, you know, why
is this person calling me all the time? Why are they?
You know? It does make you kind of wonder. But
thankfully Trista got it right the first time. She's the
queen of that stuff. So that's not no, I did not.
You were forgetting the Bachelor. Oh yeah, yeah, we know.
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The Bachelor has a much better track record than The Bachelor. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean it's it was. You do wonder
about that, right You are kind of like maybe I
just need to be by myself for that reason too. Yep, absolutely,
And I was actually, to be honest, okay, being by myself.
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I feel like single women, single people don't get enough
credit that they I mean it's I loved being single
and I wanted to wait for the right guy that
didn't care about the aspect. Couldn't have any social gain
from me being associated with the show because that could
listen for somebody to want to be m Yeah. Okay,
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So he has two daughters, right, and so you're you're
a stepmom now or you're going to be a step
do you guys get married? So how do you feel
about that? Do you love it? I mean, I can
see you fitting perfectly into any any relationship that has
to do with a girl. You're I feel like you're
a girl's girl. The guys guys guy's girl too. But
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I love, love, love his daughters. They are the most snugliest,
sweetest girls ever and they have been so loving to
me and accepting to me, which has meant a lot,
Like they could easy to be like, you're not my mom,
which they've got an amazing mom, and I always try
to remind them like, I'm not trying to come in
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and be your mom. You have an amazing mom that
loves you more than anything in the world. I'm just
here to add love to your life, to add happiness
to your life, and to help your dad. And uh,
I love that you love but like he's blessing, he's
a lover. We were laughing because we were sitting watching
a movie and the girls were at school, and he
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was like, why do my girls text you ten times
more than they text me? Like ten to what? But
I just I love them. I genuinely love his daughters,
And it was a big part of why I love
him so much is because he's such an amazing goad
to them, such an amazing Yes, that's such a turn on, Yeah,
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I said. I said that a few years ago to
a friend of mine who was dating a guy with kids,
and I literally said, I'm like, if you don't like
this guy, I'll figure out a way to marry him
because he's such a great dad. Like it's so it's
such a great thing, you know that prioritizing of your
children is like a big deal, especially when I think
when you see people like you guys dating and he's
still putting his kids first. It's pretty spectacular totally, and
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it's the sweetest thing in the world where even this morning,
one of my favorite things to do together is school
drop off, and I just love everything about them all life.
And we did go off together and he he'll get up,
I'll he'll let me. He won't wake me up, And
he'll get up and he'll be making them pancakes, cooking breakfast,
packing their lunches, getting their clothes ready, like he's such
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a good dad to them. And I get up and
they're just all with their backpacks ready for school, and
love him. He's at from the distance listening because you blushing. Um,
oh yeah he's got oh I love um he's he's
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just a really good dad. And it was one of
the things of I got that inside peek of how
he is. And there's some guys who you don't know
when you marry them, if they don't have kids, what
kind of dad they're gonna be, Like, Yeah, yeah, they
could be a not present dad. And he's very present
with his daughters. And I absolutely love that. So okay,
so I know you just got engaged. And I hate
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it when people rush people and they're like, okay, so
when's babies coming? But I know I feel like you've
wanted to be a mom for a while. Yeah, is
that something on the table, Like do you think that
you would like to have children with him? Um? Well,
I have always said, and I know it's so funny
because even publicly, I'm like babies, and I all my friends,
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everybody who knows me knows how much I just love
babies just in general. So the fact that he comes
with two babies already lights up my world. And I
have told him we first started dating, I said, I
know you have two roles. So whether whether our path
is just your two girls another baby added on to that,
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it's our baby, Um, whether we adopt a baby, whether
we whatever it is because I'm older, whatever it looks like.
Even if it's only his two girls, it's his two girls,
and that those are children in my life. That's what
I wanted to family. So however that's going to work out,
we haven't. Really. We're deciding that we're figuring that out,
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but not in a rush to fail out. And I
feel I've always kind of joked about, like, I know,
I'm forty one, but I'm like, I'm a child bride.
Don't ask me. Like nowadays, women there are so many
options to children at any age. Who's the one that's
pregnant now with twins at what forty eight? Hilary Swank. Yeah, yeah,
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she's like, so people like to say this, Oh, you're
so old and you're just too old Baines and that,
but I feel like we are so much times are
different now, we are so much down. Yeah, and medical
technology has come up. I mean, Claire, I'm fifty one
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and I have a three year old and one year old,
so anything, you know, it's totally doable. But they were
calling but to be fair, they were calling my I mean,
my wife wanted to kill him. But you remember meeting
and and I'm sure Claire when we were in l
a years ago together, but she got pregnant with our
second she was thirty five, and they called her a
geriatric pressent. I literally thought she was gonna kill somebody.
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That is the most outdated. They need to raise that
bar because they're giatric, they're healthy, just older having children,
and it's yeah, I think it honestly varies at different
parts of the world to helpful, because I feel like
even in the United States, in New York, the average
age of women having children is a lot older than
in Middle Yeah. Yeah, because they put their careers first
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or whatever. Yeah, it's a lot different. So I will
say this is that Ryan. We've talked about it. Ryan's
open to anything and everything. So it's not like I've
got my two girls, I don't want children. Do you
still want to be with me? It's it's not like
that at all. It's he is like, I want what
you want and I'm down for that. As long as
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you're together. Who cares? I love it. So he's a
big triathlete, right, yes, Oh my gosh, tell me why
he can? I brab for one seconde he did? Yes? Please?
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He is such an athlete just naturally. I am alway.
He's had this triathlon for not traffling this iron Man
for the last couple of months. He's been planning for it,
but has not he worked out, like he's gone on
jogs and runs. But I know how that is. Yeah,
he went out and amazing, like are you not dead?
He went't hiked in the next morning, up and a
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camel dock's recovery. It must be something in the name.
The name Ryan makes these people like superhuman athletes. It's exacting.
I agree, Yes, how is Ryan doing? How is he doing?
He's good, He's you know, he's got his up and
down days. But um, thank you for asking. Um, he's good,
he's I don't know if you read or heard about it.
(21:58):
We don't need to get into it. But he's sticking
himself with honey beats be venom therapy. I was just
talking about that the other day to Run. I was
showing them a video on it, and because I'm not
even realizing that you guys do it, but it has
been so beneficial to people in so many ways. I
alternative therapies, and I believe deep. Talking to Ryan about
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it was like ran when we were in uh where
were we? Like Tahoe and Ryan. Ryan and I had
had like half an hour conversation about it, and I
was my mind was blown. I'm like, wait a minute,
you intentionally sting yourself with bees. I would like start
bawling like a baby, but he was like telling yeah,
it's crazy, Yeah, we need to bring him on. Yeah,
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you know, well, it's funny because I don't know if
I would because last week I think something was wrong
with me. I can't remember what was wrong. And you
can use it for everything, like you can you can
do use be venom therapy for everything. And maybe I
was just feeling bad. I think I was just feeling yucky.
He's like, well, why don't you do a couple of stings.
I'm like, oh no, not happening a couple of Yeah,
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I just can't. It's a little house. It's a little house,
um that that lives in our pantry and we just
ordered more. They came via FedEx y from from an aviary.
It's crazy, um because here in Colorado, they you can't
get them anymore. They're in their hives for the like
(23:23):
the cold season. But um yeah, he is still stinging
and he has his ups and downs. But thank you
for asking. He's good. I mean, the thing is, I
know that triathlon life, that triathlete life, and I feel
like it's funny because I was never interested. Like never,
I was like, okay, you do you. I'll do a
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five k with you every so often, maybe, but I'm
not even close to like even thinking about marathons. But
You've done a bunch of races, haven't you. I have.
I Actually, that's one thing that's changed in my life.
Is that. A couple of years ago, when I was
super sick with my breast implants, when I had them in, um,
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I could barely walk. I could barely walk. I was
so sick. I was doing my best, but it would
take all of my energy just to function normally. So
working out above that, doing anything above that, it was
extremely hard. I was more yoga, light plodies. Those were
my workouts. And now with Ryan, he actually, um, he
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just I believe, bought a marathon and so he his
job is no, wait, how do you do that? I
don't know people own marathons, but it's a thing. So
he but he literally puts on races and that's his
job is too. Yeah, he's worked for the Giants, He's
done a bunch of that stuff. So he is very
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much into running. And I want to be with him
a lot. I love being with him, and so when
he goes and does these things, it's in like this weekend,
we have one in Dallas, and I'm like, I want
to come to Dallas with you, and so I'm gonna
go the running running run the one in Dallas. So
he works it, I run it, and then I just
meet him at the end. That's awesome. But he love it.
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I think that to me is a sign of one
of the signs of a good partner is that if
you make each other's lives better. And he's always encouraging me,
always like, let's do this. I want to do it.
I want to, you know, run with him, and so
it's it's really made my life better and improved my life.
That's awesome. Yeah, well you look great. You look so happy.
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You're just radiating happiness. I love it. You're that person.
I mean, we all adore you, and it's just like
so great to see you just find the right person
and just hit that next level, you know. Seriously, especially
after one Pablo, you know what, I feel like that
was it was all for a purpose. It was all
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for a purpose. Even going that with one Pablo. It
was a pivotal moment in my life for standing up
for myself to a on That was the first time
I had ever done that. It was right after an
a piece of relationship. If I've shared that before, but
it was a moment that I had that I needed
to be able to stand up for myself. So I
am thankful for that moment as well. Yeah, that's crazy
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that I remember meeting you right after that, and I
was just like I loved first of all, I loved
that season because I made me feel so good about myself, like,
oh wait, this guy is way worse than me. No,
but it was like one of those things where I
loved you standing up to him. I loved everything you said,
and it was like, you know, then we I just
(26:35):
along the way. You know. It was just like you
just built such a bigger and bigger following of people
that and then you impacted him so much by being
so open and honest, you know. And I think it's
just I just love. I love the whole full circle.
And I agree you've got to go through those bumps
in the road and that's all part of your story
before you arrive where you need to be, you know.
And and I'll tell you to thank you for a thing.
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I'll tell you too. And I feel like this is
an important thing is that I am extremely extremely happy
now and everybody, even in my comments, people are like, oh,
you're going You're happier this year that I I was
happy not being in a relationship with Ryan. This happiness
came from me. This happiness came from healing. This happiness
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came through doing the hard work of kind of trudging
through the emotional crap that I needed to get rid
of and the heaviness and the forgiveness that I needed
to experience in my own life. That's where this happiness
has come from. And Ryan adds to it, and I'm
grateful for him for but this happiness was a long
time coming and a lot of therapy and a lot
(27:37):
of work within myself and a self work. So that's
where this is where eaten from. And that's how I'm
able to have a healthy relationship now, is because I've
done the work. That's that's where I get the happiness.
That's where I sources. So even if Ryan left, God forbid,
if he left tomorrow, I would still have this happiness. Yeah,
(27:59):
you laid happiness foundation and now you both can build
a house on it. So I think it's beautiful. I mean,
I'm here for you, Bob. No, I don't let any
man ever again break me. So with that strengthen that
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foundation for myself. Do not let a man bring me
that level ever. Again. Okay, so I have to ask.
I mean, if you want to shut me down, shut
me down, But I just want to know if any
of your ex is have reached out since hearing the news.
Totally totally I have. They have. Yeah, I've dated some
really amazing guys. I will tell you there are absolutely
(28:46):
ones that have not and one and we could probably
guess which one. I will see one if you'd like.
But UM, to me, it's very telling of I care.
I feel like there's a meme about this, or like
some quote about this, but how how I treat you
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as a reflection of how you treated me. So if
you think that I'm awful, what did it take for
me to get there? You know, like I'm not. I'm
not brat for no reason. I don't have an attitude
for no reason. I'm not difficult for no reason. You're
good to me, I'm good to you and my expending
such a good friend, the sweetest got out. Yeah, and
(29:30):
even guys prior to ben Well that I've dated um
have totally reached out and are just the sweetest things
in the entire world in our congratulations and just really kind,
really kind of Yeah, you get you get what you
give right, yeah, yeah, the golden rule. Yeah, how you
want to be treated right? Yep? Um okay, So two
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more questions that I have and then Bob you can
you can take over if you want. But are you
I'm sure it just I know it just happened. But
do you have visions of a of a a wedding
in mind? Like, do you know kind of what you
want to do? I've we've definitely thought about it. I
want a very simple wedding. I've always wanted that. For
(30:14):
my years of being a hair stylist, I did way
too many bride's hair. Oh I said, oh my gosh,
the sweetest bride I rolled you will. I always were like,
they're gonna be an easy bride. They're super calm, they're
super laid back. They were bridezillas. I just feel like
I don't want to put the energy and the stress
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to worry about other people on my special day or
are a special day. So I want really simple I
actually I will tell you this. We want two weddings.
I love. So you're gonna have destination wedding. Yes, I
want one because my mom is not able to travel
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or do anything like that. Um, and to be around
a lot of people. It's kind of over it's overwhelming
for her, and I just want a special moment with
her as to have us really just a small intimate ceremony. Um,
we had that, Ryan, we had I don't know if
you could actually nobody knows this, but Ryan proposed twice
to me once he did Yeah for the actually we
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have here's this funny story. We have actually there proposals.
So he proposed to meet the Rise festival. Then we
came back to Sacramento and he oh, it's amice want
to cry every time. But he asked my mom for
her blessing again, and um, when he did that, he
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got down on a knee again and in front of
my mom proposed to it, which is yeah and then yeah,
and then we are very progressive people. And so I
actually I didn't get down on a knee, but I
proposed to him as well. So if people see him
his finger, it's because I proposed to him as well.
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So we he thought, if you get to wear a ring,
why don't I get to wear a ring. Here's a
almost famous O. G. First, we're all crying, so that's good,
really special moments. So he he knows how much my
mom means to me, how important she is in our lives,
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and so yeah, he proposed twice, so I want her to.
He also was like, wants her to be there for
the wedding, and we don't know. Time is precious and
time is limited, so we want one with her to
a small intimate thing, and then one I want another
small one, but just something more of like with his
girls and us and something something and maybe a destination
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that Yeah, I love it. I don't even want to
ask my next question because that was just like the
perfect like I just love that conversation. I am just
so happy for you. Thank you so much, happy, seriously,
thank you. I appreciate that so much. And you can
literally ask anything, like I'm an open book with it
(33:02):
all if oh, I know, I just want to thank
you for coming on our little show to share it
when it's so nice. Of course, seriously, I have to
say this time, I love sharing the story, but I
love sharing my love and the story righting us and
details of us because it really is a special relationship
to me and I'm proud of this one and happy
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about this one. And he really does light me up.
So you can see it's all over your face. I
love it. Okay, I am going to ask the question
because I do kind of just want to know. I
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was watching your stories, I think yesterday or maybe the
day before, and you had like a little Q and
A with him, which was so cute, by the way,
And one of the questions that came up was has
he watched the show? Do you plan on? Does he
plan on watching the show? Because I know he kind
of joked about it in the story like, well, now
(34:06):
I want to see it, But is that true or
was he just joking like will you guys watch it together?
Bachelor in Paradise? Are you watching all the things? I
don't know. He's he's very which I told him in
the beginning. I need a very stable guy who was
comfortable with my past and who was comfortable with everything
about me, because that's what makes me me, is everything
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I've been so whether it's relationships, whether it's like we
talked about stuff all the time, we talked about guys
I've dated, he's been on the phone or I've been
on the phone with an X, Like he's amazing. So
he's he just kind of laughs it at all and
it's kind of like whatever and find it funny. But
I don't know, right, let's ask him, you guys can
(34:48):
ask him. Let's ask him. Yes, I love it, Do
you do you want to watch the show? So I
asked her, I was watching the stories, um, yesterday or
the day before when she did that little cute Q
and A when you guys were cooking together, and uh
and and I know that you joked and said, oh,
(35:09):
well i'll watch now. Um. But I was like, was
he joking or or was that true? Do you have
any interest in watching? I definitely would and maybe if
we watched it, well, probably watched together, laugh together and
be like yes. See. That's that's the only problem. I
will tell you. We tried to watch my season my
my wife and I and they don't have VHS tapes anymore,
(35:32):
so it was really difficult. So needless to say, I've
got to bounce that stuff over to a DVD format
at some point because that will be outdated soon. Anyway,
I have to convert that. Yeah, I love it, Yeah,
but we I think we could probably laugh watch it laugh.
I think that's the best way to watch it. But
I mean, honestly, I feel like, what you need to
(35:53):
show him is is maybe the moment where you told
one Pablo off because that's kind of like a big
part of who you are, you know, like how you
shared it was a pivotal moment for you. Um, I
think you need to watch that. Ryan. I think we've
had We've had times, we've had like he probably knows,
not probably he knows about it all. I've told him
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all the even the behind the scenes of everything with
a lot of it. So like he's then he'll put
an actual video to with the stories that I've told. Yeah,
I did that with my life too. I was so
like up front, I'm like, I just never want you
to be surprised by anything. So here you go, you know,
here is everything, this is what really happened, this is
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what you saw on TV, that kind of stuff. And
it's easy. It's easy. And it's like, if you have
a problem with anything that I've done, that's not accepting
me completely. Holy. So when you come into this race relationship,
you gotta know you gotta love me for my good,
for my bad, for everything that I've been through, because
that's what makes me me. He knows, I mean, all
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of his stuff, that's what makes me I'd love and
accept him for who he as well. Everybody's got a
pass and that's what gets you get to your present,
you know. So it's like without it, you wouldn't be
who you are. I love that. I think it's awesome. Yeah,
I'm excited for you. I have I have one question
for Ryan. Um, well, before you go, were you at
iron Man Hawaii in two thousand four Hawaii? Are? Oh?
(37:27):
It is so? My husband has done um some iron
Man races as well and expas and stuff. Yes, it
was so incredible, such an amazing experience. Um, but I
have no interest in doing it myself on like unlike Claire, Well,
at least the race part. Yeah, definitely. I mean that's
(37:47):
pretty intenselated right now. I feel like if, right if
Ryan Sutter walked in and was on the camera, I'd
just be like, really, guys, really on bookended two Super
Ryan's and then there's stuff anyway, you have yourself, Thank you, right,
thank you for talking? Um, Okay, before I keep saying this,
(38:11):
one last question. You haven't produced sweatshirt on? Where is
that yours? Or? Right? Girl? Are you kidding me? This
is neither one of us. I have such a fascination,
lazy with getting vintage sweatshirts, and oh my god, that
that is my jamp so no perdue for me. I went, okay,
got it community college for my cosmetology degree. Not that's okay,
(38:36):
But I'm telling you, vint sweatshirts are my things fall,
so okay, share them with me because I'm all about
it too, all about the cozy, all about leggings. Look
very comfortable. We are cozy, were cozy. Thank what's your say?
Oh veil, oh Veril, gotcha, gotcha? You gotta represent the
(38:59):
hood in the hoodie fancy. You're just fancy right now.
You know, we were going to do some family photos today,
so I'm trying to go. I'm trying to find my luck.
Are you for Christmas cards? Not yet, now, I says.
You know, I'm in Michigan and the fall colors are
so beautiful, so I wanted to try and take advantage.
And I got all gussied up and then it started raining. Okay, yeah, yeah,
(39:25):
not today, not today. I'm sorry. Well that's okay. You
look nice for the pod, you look at it. I
wore this little digit sweatshirt tied. You guys both look
adorable come on, come on, so good. I love I
love this chat. We are you as you know, we're
the o G s and because you are your your
(39:47):
you are an OG especially because we're kind of in
Bachelor in Paradise season, so you're legit o G guy's
for sure. Yeah yeah and obviously a huge fan favorite.
I mean unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. Do you regret bash My
Paradise said, oh, did you youret going on there? I
don't regret anything in my life, but I do. It
was it was one of the more challenging things for
(40:09):
me because in the o G seasons there was not
an alcohol limit for people, and right that's the only
thing there was to do on the beach was just
get hammered. And I don't drink, and so for me,
I'm sure I just too cool because but I wasn't.
It was just like I don't drink, so I'm bored,
(40:31):
and I just kind of isolated myself and which just
wasn't my vibe. It wasn't my thing. I thought going
on there it would be like zip lines and adventures
and horsebock kings and boat rides and whatever, like a
lot of just swimming in the ocean. But it was
just too dang hot. There was nothing. You couldn't even
get on the beach without heat stroking. So it was
(40:52):
just really yeah, a lot of sitting around and just
drinking for people. And I was just sitting around and
being like boring. And then the whole raccoon conversations happened.
You come on the amount of people who were like,
(41:15):
why would you talk to a raccoon? How stupid? I mean,
come on, well, now we know you and the raccoon
were the only two that weren't hammered, so it makes sense. Yeah,
I know there's points where I wish I drank but
did not. You know what, though, you can thank you
lucky stars for that. Once you see like the edits
(41:36):
back and you're like the only one that doesn't say
anything dumb. You're like, conversation with raccoon, I'll take that,
I take I'll take that over. I probably did dump
things too, but like I couldn't blame it on the alcohol.
You know, maybe yes I wasn't Okay, Yeah, I was drunk,
all right. Well, cheers to you even though you don't drink.
(41:57):
Cheers to you and Ryan and huge gratulations. We are
just so happy for you. Thank you, thank you. I
just love your love. I love your love, I love
your happiness. I love the light that shines from within you.
So well, thank you, Thank you guys so much for
having me on. I know when they when they told
me I could come on with you guys, I was like, yes,
(42:18):
I want to talk to you guys so much more.
I feel like the new the new generation of people
on the show. I'm like, I could be their moms.
We could be their moms, and the same I am
turning fifty. I'm turning fifty, so uh do not look fifty.
(42:40):
Thank you at all. Thank you, But but I say
that I feel that because these kids are like twenty whatever,
and if I had kids in my late twenties, they
could totally be my children. And I do. I have
said that in the past, they feel. I feel very
maternal towards everyone, even even Bob, even though Bob's older
than me. I'm just incredibly mature. I make it easy
(43:04):
a child. I feel the same way most the same way.
So you can come on any time, and before you go,
I have to see the ring. You flashed it flashed it.
Oh wow, that is beautiful. Thank you so much amazing.
(43:29):
Yes he did. I always told him. I was like,
just so you know, there's a lot to live up
to in the bachelor world as far as like proposals
or rings, Like just so you know, I'm happy to
even just have a happy relationship. That's what that's for.
The ring doesn't matter, the proposal doesn't matter. You can
do it in bed watching a movie. I don't care. Totally. Yeah, yeah,
(43:52):
he went above and beyond and it was the most
speckful thing and the most beautiful ring. That's gorgeous. And
your nails look on points. You were ready. I had to.
I've done afterwards because they were not done when I
love the glazed, the glaze, the dips, got the dip.
(44:18):
Bob knows more than me. Love it. Thank you, Claire.
We love you, Claire. Congratulations. So happy for you. Thank
you so much you guys. I love you guys too,
and I appreciate you guys just thinking about me, having
me on, it means a lot, of course, it means
a lot for you to come on. So thank you
and give Ryan a big hug for us for coming
(44:40):
and popping in because I know he was probably like,
why do I have to do this, but guy, he's
a tech guy. We need his help, ye to help.
He's not he doesn't want to hug the camera and
you know what, bonus bonus right don't? Yeah? Awesome, Thank
(45:02):
you Claire, so much love, so much love, and I
appreciate your having me on take care of Claire. Thanks
for coming by Claire. You had such great question her. Well, honestly,
it's like having a conversation with a girlfriend because she
is one of my girlfriends, you know, like we Actually
(45:23):
it's funny because I'm thinking about it now. I'm going
to go do this right now. On our bachelorette um
group chat, we usually say happy birthday to everybody, and
no one has come on and said congratulations on her
on her engagement. So I'm gonna go do that before
I actually forget. Definitely do that. But yeah, I just
(45:46):
love her and her attitude. I feel like, you know,
she said it, it's easy to get down about stuff,
especially when you've been through all the things and are
still going through, like especially with her mom that she's
been through, that she's going through, and to have that
positive attitude, I feel like it's just so mature and
(46:07):
so important, and you know, she's raving about Ryan. But
I have to say, Ryan, if you're listening to this Dawkins,
you have found a keeper to Oh no doubt beautiful.
I've always thought that about her since the first time
I met her. We just got along so well. She
was super cool. We had a great time together, and
she's obviously very beautiful and and you know, has done
a lot of her life as well. But I just
(46:29):
always really liked her spunkiness, like her attitude about stuff
and m and man, I mean from the second she
came on you, I mean, you see you just see
that that glow and and like she said, though, that
all comes from within. She got that before she even
met you know, Ryan again. And so that's just great
to see someone who you know is in the rights place.
(46:49):
You know, it's just so confident I could say that
confidently about her, you know. Agreed, agreed. So thank you.
So this has been another edition to almost famous the
O G S. Yeah, thanks for listening. Thanks for listening.
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