November 3, 2022 • 51 mins
It's finally happening! Ryan Sutter is joining his wife Trista and former Bachelorette competitor Bob Guiney as our Almost Famous OGs!
We hear everything about the surprise birthday party Ryan threw for Trista!
And Bob shares exactly why HE is the reason Ryan and Trista got together at the end of their season of The Bachelorette.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Almost Famous podcast with her radio. Well, Hi,
just welcome to almost Famous. Oh geez, that's everybody that's
us know. How are my friend? How happy birthday? Happy?
Believe you? Thank you very I finally joined your club.
(00:23):
Good club. I've been here for a while and I've
just been kicking it by myself. I'm so thankful to
have somebody else here with me. Thank God. Oh I'm here,
I'm here. Um. I do have to say I have
not been feeling well. Um, so if my energy level
(00:43):
is a little low, that's why. But um, I'm excited
to talk to our guest today. I am too. You
know something about this guest and I want to tease
this a little because I don't know if anyone knows
who he is yet. He was my roommate actually on
the first season of The Bachelorette. We were we were
bunkmates in a giant mansion bedroom. Did you actually have
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bunk beds or were there just mattresses on the floor.
They were all single beds, so like, I mean, they
probably were bunk beds. I would imagine what a set
of stacking them. I think they knew better, you know
now they stack them. But back then it was all
single beds, and Ryan and I were pretty close to
Oh shit, I just give it away. I just it's okay.
He's coming in literally a minute. So it's yes, one
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of my one of my my favorite people from the show,
a very dear friend of mine, and you kind of
know him too, I guess. But today it's really about
he and I. I mean, it's really our connection. Ryan's
in the waiting room. Yeah, yes, um yeah, Ryan center,
come on in. I don't think he needs much introduction,
(01:55):
but he does not. I mean, if you are, if
you're gonna call you and I the o g s.
She is the only other uh, the only other guy
that's that's still in the in the Bachelor Bachelor Nation.
What do you call it? Zeitgeist? That's what the heck
is that word? Zeitgeist nists. This word we podcasters we
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use areas. Hi, handsome, How are you, buddy? I'm good.
Can you guys hear me? Yes? Okay? Can't we even
hear you upstairs? I mean it's perfect technology like it?
(02:45):
Yeah right, I know? Yeah. I mean, as I said,
I haven't been feeling well, so we are in separate rooms.
Um we I'm trying to keep this guy healthy as
um as you know, Bob, he's been dealing with some
hell stuff. And one of the things, Babe, that I
wanted to have you come on and talk about today, Um,
(03:06):
because I feel like people always want to know whenever
I post anything is how you're feeling. So can you
tell everybody a little bit about what's going on lately,
how you're feeling. Sure? But before I do, I think
you guys should title this episode Ryan Interest to talk
about their separation. What do you mean was downstairs? Just
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it was upstairs? What we didn't sit here like that? Yes,
we're doing that. Yes, And there's just a picture. It's
not any it's not any audio. We're just gonna say
Ryan in trist to talk about their separation on like
a caption. Yeah, totally but perfect. I I guess going
(04:01):
back to your original question, I'm just tired today, but
that's just because I've been working. Um, we're just going
from work, and so I think if you're starting, like
if you want to start like right this moment, I'm
just a little bit tired. But lately I've been feeling
pretty good. Um, you know, I don't I don't know
(04:21):
how far back you want to go, or what kind
of summer you want to be or including this. But
you know, the last few years, like everyone, really have
been sort of difficult, uh, you know, on a lot
of people's personal health and mind included UM and and
just sort of working my way through that and finding
UM finding and continuing to search for UM opportunities to
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heal and get better and UM. You know, it's it's
tough also because we're entering this sort of second phase
of our lives. And so as you're getting older, you're
you're wanting to you're wanting to sort of do you
want your second half of your life to live up
to your first half? And it's hard figure out what
that looks like because it can't be the same. It
just that you have to sort of redefine your priorities
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and UM, you know, try to temper what maybe your
expectations are. And so that's a secondary struggle to the
health part is UM. I've always sort of measured myself
on sort of physical benchmarks, and some of that has
to UM has to subside, and I have to find
other ways to UM to see how I'm doing because physically,
(05:30):
I just you know, when you're forty eight, you just
can't do what you could when you were thirty eight
or twenty eight, regardless of whether or not you've gone
through health challenges. So so there's just a lot of
things going on UM at the moment that I'm just
trying to sort out, and UM, you know, with your
help and um the support of of family and friends,
I think we're making progress. I'm sorry about that about
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turning forty eight. I don't really remember what that was like. Um,
this was so long ago for me. UM, but I
know for a fact that even at thirty eight and
twenty eight, because I've known you for a long time,
I was never in as gonna shape you as you
are at forty eight. So you know, I am. I
am glad to hear that you're feeling better, though, because
I know it's been a challenge for you. And you know,
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a lot of us that follow, you know, follow the
both of you on Instagram as I do, and that's
kind of you know, you never for me personally, even
though we've all known each other for so long, I
never wanted to ask the question like, Hey, what's going
on because it felt like it was too personal of
a question and it wasn't you You too kind of
alluded to it, but it was. It wasn't until you
were really willing to talk about it that kind of
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you know, we all were able to kind of get
a glimpse into what you've been battling and some of
the alternative things that you've done to to get yourself
back to feeling better, you know, like I want. I mean,
you and I talked about it when we were on
top together, and I was just fascinated with the whole
thing with with respect to the bees, and I mean,
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I was just blown away by it because I know,
for a fact, to myself, I am terrified of being
stung by a being. I mean, even though I'm a
grown up now, I mean, I'm I'm a grown up
my you know, my son gets all stressed out of
cries about the idea of a be staying him. I
do too, And um, you know I know that you
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you actually had to basically, you know, uh, get over
not only the just the I don't even know what
you call the trepidation of being stung by being that
momentary you know, feeling that you you're doing it quite
a bit. As is an alternative form of therapy. Can
we talk about that a litt bit too. Yeah, So
I think Bob, you and your son's fear of being
stung by a b is a healthy fear. And before
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I even start with advocating for this be vendom stuff
that I do. Um, you don't want to just go
out and start stinging yourself with bees. It can be
extremely harmful. Some people are very very allergic m manaphylactically
bad and it can you know, there are certainly reasons
for lots of people to be scared of these. However,
there are also lots of reasons for people to see
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to sort of be very grateful for bees. Um. You know,
obviously there's the obvious delicious honey that they make, and
the pollination and all that sort of stuff. But again,
the movies, like one of my very favorite movies was
the b movie. I love that movie. Oh yeah actress actress. Yeah,
there they are wonderful actress bees. But they, um, they're
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actually remarkable. Like if you ever get down and go down,
I want to go down that rabbit hole there. Um. Yeah,
they're they're very community driven. They know they're it's just
they're fascinating. They're able to communicate and lots of different
ways and all of the things that they accomplish. Um
as these tiny little creatures are, it's it's pretty amazing
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what they do. Most of the the work actually being
done by women, women bees female. So yeah, so that
the human race, I can see. That's good. So anyway, UM,
the the honeybee in particular, not all bees, but the
honeybee has a venom that contains this, uh, this particular
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product called militant, which is been proven to be have
anti viral, anti bacterial, antifungal properties. It's a really powerful
potent thing. And um, when you used sort of correctly,
when you when you use it in a therapeutic way,
it can help root out things like lyme disease, which
is what I'm using it for, um and kill it
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and so you can get rid of it. Whereas there's
a lot of schools of thought that once you sort
of have this long term chronic find disease, you never
get rid of it. It It just hides out and you know,
far deep places in your body and just sort of
rereaks havoc on you forever. But these this b venom
has um has shown some pretty powerful effects against it
and it's a it's a commitment. Obviously I've been I've
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been on this program with UM with a company called
the Heel Hive for almost I guess I started almost
a year ago. Wow, I can't believe it's been that long. Yeah. Yeah,
I didn't start stinging with the bees until last spring.
But there's a which is why you want to go
with something like the He'll Hive because they'll guide you
through a preliminary protocol which UM, which because is going
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to make sure you're not going to have some sort
of anaphylactic reaction, to make sure they're taking care of
all these other potential UM infections and and that you're
you're eating the right diets and that sort of stuff,
so you're set up well for success UM. And that
takes several months to get to that point, and then
you do. You know, Trista was there when we did
the first initial sting, which was you just you you know,
(10:40):
we keep bees in our house. We don't have a hive.
UM someday I would like to, but that's an argument
Tristan and I are continuing to I'm continuing to lose.
But so right now I just have I get these
shipped here or in the summertime, I collect them locally,
but we we did one test sting to make sure
I wasn't allergic. Um. We keep a couple of eppens
(11:02):
in the house. I have one in my truck. Yeah,
And um, so every other day now I sting myself
with anywhere from um four to seven or eight bees.
And this is these are live bees that you I
grab with these little tweezers, and they're all The stings
happen along my sort of spinal path on my back,
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lower back. And um, yeah, the first few times it's
weird because you're just sort of the anticipation of waiting
for ye be to sting you was weird. But but
now now it's, um, it's just second nature. I just
it's all pretty fast. He actually he will. He will
do it and then come upstairs and be like, hey,
can you scrape the stingers off? Because the method is
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he holds him to his back they sting him hopefully, um, quickly,
because honey bees actually don't want to sting you on
like wasps, and so usually have to hold him. And
I used to have to hold him, and um, now
he's doing it on his own. But he'll sting himself
and then come upstairs and you take like a little
credit card or a harder card and scrape out the
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the stingers. At this point in time, he leaves them
in the stingers for thirty seconds. And isn't that like
the kind of the maximum amount of time, like they
after thirty seconds From what the He'll hive has described,
the venom starts to lose, like you get the maximum
impact after thirty seconds. So, um, in the beginning he
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was stinging for like one to three to five seconds,
and then that would increase with um, you know, the weeks.
But now he'll come upstairs and be like, hey, can
you get the stingers out? Um? Does it all on
his own? That was that was a question I was
I had was you know, I remember being stung as
a kid, and you know, always you go to your mom,
(12:53):
dad or whatever, they grab tweezers and they pull the
stinger out, you know, And so that was going to
be my question, like do you do you when you
do that with the card it does it remove the
thing or completely? Or is there still a little piece
of left in there? No, that's the intent is trying
to scrape it out. Um, and get the stinger ound completely. Yeah,
there's a little barb on the end, so it's kind
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of like a fishook. If you try to pull it
straight out, it actually can catch and that's when that's
when you get a little bit left. But did you
scrape it out? It usually comes out a little more cleanly.
They do you want to go grab the little house
and just show, um, Bob, I feel like people are
interested to see the little house. So we keep this
little bee house in um, in our pantry. It used
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to be just in our kitchen, and some of the
bees were dying, and we think because it was a
little chillier. UM, So we keep it in our pantry
and try to keep the door closed. UM. And he
usually gets I don't know, like fifty sixty at a time.
And then there are I don't I don't know that
we have any right now. UM, but there's some coming today,
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but there I don't have any of them here yet.
How do they arrive? Really like a container, like a
I mean little box. They come in this little box,
this tiny little box. Yeah, this is an older one,
but um, so sixty b s will cram into this
thing and they like to be close together they keep
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That's how they are in their hives. They're they're very tight.
And then um, when they get to my house, we
put them in this little oh nice, this little thing,
a little bigger house. Yeah, and then we have a
problem with them flying out of there and when you
when you open it to like grab one and they
all just like storm out of there. So the crazy
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thing is, um sometimes like if I'm in I always
do this, and usually in my son's bathroom because it's
the smallest and um Port Mexicans the smallest bathroom. But
we so if they do, they do get out there
easy to recapture. But oftentimes in the summertime, I would um,
i would do the stinging ritual and then I'll take
this the house out to my back porch and just
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open the open it wide up right up and let
him fly around because the bees actually need to go
to the restroom. They don't like to go to the
restroom in their house, which none of us would and
so and they like to be able to fly around
from time to time. And the crazy thing is I
thought that I would, um, I would lose all my bees.
I didn't really trust the trust that they would come back.
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But they they all come back, They all fly back in.
And isn't that crazy? He literally says, I'm going to
let them take a walk. So the bees are taking
a walk, and they all I mean for the most part,
maybe we these one or two, but um, yeah, they
always come back to the house. Isn't that crazy? That's fascinating.
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I mean, yet another awesome quality of bees, right, I mean,
just that's pretty love oar bees. We love our bees.
They have done so much. I mean, talk about kind
of how since you started to be about in therapy,
how you're feeling UM, has it helped Do you feel
that it has helped UM? It has absolutely helped, I
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think as a component of of sort of a lifestyle shift.
I mean, there are other things that I think have
helped as well. But I was I was definitely plateaued
with just trying to find UM any other source of relief, so,
you know, and I tried a lot of things like
a dust duss of herbal things and different sorts of
(16:26):
detoxication things. And when we started with the heel Hive
program and the bees, that's the first time I felt
like I was starting to get actual long lasting recovery.
It's like I said, it's still a component of a
larger lifestyle change. There's still dietary things that I do
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and and exercise is huge, and detoxification and some supplements.
But the supplement list is like four supplements now it's
just as opposed to like a countertop full of of um,
just all sorts of It was overwhelming, and it was
with the stress of just trying to figure out when
you're supposed to take your vitamins. It was almost worse
(17:07):
than the disease. But um, but yeah, so I would
I like to say that I feel like, um, you know,
probably eight percent of the time I feel better, and
then there's a twenty still where I'll have like a yeah,
I just won't feel as good. But um, it's that
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even those days are far better than the worst days
used to be. So everything is just sort of upticked.
It's been more been more more positive days, more feeling better,
and then even the down days are are less down.
So and that all happened. Um as I've worked through
this be venom therapy and continues to sort of tick up. Um,
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there are times when all maybe there was one time
where I did my steeing, I went, I was doing
eight stings and then one of those bees did come
out and it stung me on the chest, and then
I went for a bike rid it got stung again
by just a random outdoor be and that was too much,
and that that triggered a What it's called is is
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a Hirk's reaction, and it's when the venom actually kills
off bacteria in your system, and the toxic bacteria are
left in your system and there's too much of it
for your body to to work through, um efficiently, and
it just makes you feel sick. So there there, it's
there's still some trial and error to the whole thing.
I'm talking actually to Brooke at the Heel High this afternoon, UM,
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just to you know, come up with the game plan
moving forward, um as of reaching this one year sort
of um moments but um, but yeah, I think the
long story short, I attribute a lot of the success
that we've been having to the to the bees, which
is awesome because I love I love nature, I love
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natural types of solutions. I love being outside and this
just feels like it's um wholesome in that regard. So
I feel like it's it's authentic to what I would
would like to do as a person anyways, So and
that that probably helps to just knowing that you're doing
something that's true to yourself and then honestly being able
to let the bees out and see that they come
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back makes me feel better too that they don't. I
don't feel like I'm holding them because they are mean.
The sad thing is that that that when they sting you,
they die any time, within a few hours or a
few days later because the sting um, you know, they
have that one sting and if they use it, they die.
So that every single bee that stings me is sacrificing
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her life for me to feel better, And so I
just want that to be a meaningful sacrifice for them. Yeah,
I was. I was you thinking too about your you know,
(20:02):
your profession with being a firefighter and doing the things
that you do. And I know that I mean historically anyway, now,
you know, I've never really talked about this, but I
assume this is probably the case for you that you do,
you know, three or four days on and then you know,
however that works from your from your employment cycle, and
that's got to be first of all, that would be
utterly exhausting anyway, But then on top of that, to
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be in the situation where you've been over the last
few years. Man, I could only imagine how much that
just takes audio. So was it something that you know,
kind of because I remember a few years ago you
sort of stepped away for a little while and then
you got right back into it. Was that something that
was sort of driving the bus on that decision too,
or was it was it something else? You know? Is
it just you know, you want to spread your wings
and look at some other things, or you know, was
it was it sort of the fatigue and things that
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we're taking as toll a little. But uh, when I left,
when I left the Veil fire Department, yeah, I was
going through um similar but not the same type of
health issues and it all may have been related. It
turns out that may have been the beginning of what
I was dealing within the dealing with now. But um yeah,
so I left and I got I got a little
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bit better, But then I was in a profession that
I didn't enjoy, and leaving actually made me realize how
much I did enjoy the fire profession. So um, so
I went back, and I went but I went back
instead of to Veil, I went down to Denver and
so so our schedule is, um, it's good and bad.
We work. We worked a twenty four hour shift and
then we're off for forty eight UM, and then I
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would work some trades here and there to try to
extend that because, uh, that one thing that has become
apparent is that getting enough sleep is huge, um in life,
especially when you're trying to recover from anything really a
race or um an illness or whatever. So that it
is a tricky balance. Bob, Like I try to do
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the best I can. Interest is pretty tolerant of me
taking naps and that sort of stuff. Um. The fact
that I worked two hours away hasn't helped, you know.
So I created a situation where I love the department
I work with. UM. It's actually, you know, I didn't
not like the department I left. UM. I have a
new found appreciation even for those guys now and the
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work that we were doing up here. But I needed
a change of scenery. So I went down there, and UM,
and I love it. It's just it does get a
little exhausting driving back and forth and you know, wanting
to rest and getting up so early in the morning
and and knowing the impact that that lack of sleep
can have, so I try to, Um, I just try
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to approach days with a little more perspective and not
just have my foot on the gas but all the time,
and and that sort of that sort of helps see
stars they're just like us. I love that. This is
like anazing you know, people that think that's your fans
and they they see you too. It's just this you know,
golden couple, which we all see that. But you know,
(22:55):
it's nice to know that, um, you know that that
we actually have to have jobs, which we do, and
but also that you know we faced challenges and that
that you guys are particulating me because you guys have
been I think, the benchmark of the franchise for such
a long time, and you know, to know that you
go through these struggles, you go through them together and
you're just like another married couple. You help each other
through them, you figure it out, you know. And uh,
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I've always said that about you guys. You know, it's
kind of funny because we were all kind of along
for the ride together for the longest time that Trista
took us both on and you know, it was so
fun to be in a in a way, you know,
I was kind of like your guys mouth piece when
you weren't there, because people would always go, oh, come on, yeah, yeah,
but he was on the show, and I'm like, I'm like,
trust me, yes they do. And hello, you know, I
(23:39):
don't know, just said Ryan. And you know, especially once
you guys add Max and Blakesley too, that it was
like a totally different conversation because it's like, you know,
now they have children, guys, and now you know, now
they're at their twenty year innver. It's like, you know, hey,
how long are you gonna keep on? You know, thinking
it doesn't work? This is proof positive it does. And
then we all you know, but yeah, I'm glad you're
(23:59):
feeling better, buddy. And I think that, um, you know,
when we got to hang out to a little bit
a little bit together a Tahoe, may you appreciate what
you've been going through because I really didn't know as much.
And and you know, you're such a gracious person. You
don't really talk about it too often. You don't talk
about yourself very often at all, So I think, um,
you know, it's kind of nice to actually hear about
it and fascinating to hear about the treatment, you know,
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So I'm glad you're feeling better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank
thanks for the opportunity. I don't I don't like to
talk much about anything, to be honest, I'm sort of
like my my son in that regard. But but this
is one thing, Um, this is one thing where that
that I feel like it's important to talk about because
one thing I found out is how many people are
going through similar situations, and how lost so many people are,
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and desperate so many people are, and and um, just
the fact that there's this crazy like I'm doing this
vat of therapy. It may not be right for everybody,
but I never would have imagined myself using these as
a as a way to heal him and get better.
And so I just want to encourage people to have
an open mind, to to advocate for themselves, and to
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continue to have hope in in finding a solution that
fits who they are and what they need, because it's
almost certainly out there. It's just oftentimes you don't get
the best advice right out of the gate, and so
you have to just kind of, you know, keep plugging
away and and that's the reason why I like, I
don't like, but that I'm willing to talk about it
(25:26):
to some degree. UM, because I do want people to
to have some hope and not feel like it's the
end of the end of the world if if they're
coming down with these diagnosis is because I think there
are solutions out there if you're open minded and so
so thanks for having me on and for giving me
the opportunity to see my life for the first time.
And like a week so we have to bring people
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together here at the UM, but you're not getting out
so quick. I, UM, I am going to take this
opportunity to because we hopefully we'll have some people listening, hopefully. UM.
I want to take this opportunity to say thank you
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to you, babe for um my surprise party. So Bob
he I have been wanting a surprise party since I
can remember, like since I was little, always always wanted one.
And like a week before my birthday, I was riding
in the car with Blake Slate and she's like, are
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you so excited for your birthday? And like, I don't know,
I'm like, I really just I would love to have
surprise party. You know, we were just talking about um celebrating.
And I think that's to my knowledge, babe, I think
I heard this correctly. That she came home and she's like, okay,
we need to have a surprise party. So I think
a week before, right, no no, no, no no no
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no no okay, so never mind, So take that away. Anyway,
even if it was like um, last minute or not.
He got so many of my friends and my family.
I haven't seen my dad and my step mom in
a year since well over a year since last summer.
We went to St. Louis to visit them, and then
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my mom flew intown and Bob, you know her Hayley
pretending or Platt is your married nick um even though
they aren't together anymore. But yes, she was Chris's um,
my brother in law's date to our wedding, and she um,
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she flew in for it. And anyway, it was such
an incredible surprise, such an incredible night, like I did
not want it to end. I could not stop smiling.
So I just want to say thank you, babe, for
on this public platform, if you will, for putting that
together and making me feel special. Well, you're welcome. I
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had a lot of help but yeah, right, we did it.
We did our best. It's either I'm very hard trying
it that's horrible, and I'm terrible at it, so especially
in today's day and age. So, Bob, I got a
a text message from one of the people who was
supposed to come to the party, like three hours before,
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four hours before, and they texted, I haven't talked to
him in forever. I'm not going to name them, um,
but they texted me and they're like, hey, so it's
been so long, dada, UM, have so much fun tonight.
And I was like, we can't come, but have so
much fun tonight. And I said, oh, it's great to
hear from you about what is what's tonight. And then
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we're driving, Um, we had to pick up Blakesley from dance.
We're driving from the dance studio to the location and um,
I was looking at my phone and I guess some
text messages had come in so on Ryan's truck like
he has like the system we're you can see your
text messages show up on the screen or whatever. Yeah,
And so Blakesley and one of my friends Jen, who
(29:08):
was planning the party, and Ryan and maybe somebody else
were on this group text, and they had texted and
Ryan like shoot that away off of the screen and
then detected dismiss. It's because blake So Blakesley's role was
to tell that we were on our way when we
picked up from dance, and so I had sent this
group text to say like, hey, Blakesley, here's Jen in
(29:29):
Atlanta's phone number. UM just texted when we leave and
so yeah, stupid vehicles these days are all like so
bluetooth connected. Blakes Blakesley does exactly what she was supposed
to do. She sends a text. She just replied to
my group text, which I was on, and my truck
was like, oh, text coming in from Blakesley. No, no doubt.
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He literally was like no, no, no, And I was like,
what is happening? So we so yeah, so yeah that's
just good, Like like anything can ruin it. It's like
this whole and we had probably been planning it for
a month or so, and so for a month you're
just on pins and needles, walking on eggshells. I'm like
(30:13):
catch myself wanting to ask her, like what should we do?
What your parents are here? Kind of questions. Yeah, it's
just so hard, but but it ended up. It wasn't
as big of a surprise as I thought. But it
was a great party and it was a great celebration.
It was so my son's first birthday party. We you know,
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it was it was pre COVID and we were all excited.
So we had this huge party. Every one of our
family members came over, close friends with kids and stuff,
and you know, it was awesome. And you know, if
you look back at the pictures, you can kind of
tell something's off with with Grace and my son. But
that day are nanny was supposed to come. Originally she
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was gonna come and work, and my wife called her
and she goes, hey, you know what, don't even worry
about it. We're gonna have so much family here. Just
take the day unless you know, we still love you
to come. And she was kind of like, kind of
like a little bit like, you know, no, thanks, I'm good.
I don't feel well anyway. I haven't felt very good
for the last week and I've been coming every day
and we're like, this is the first we've heard of it.
This is literally the day before the party. It's like
(31:26):
Friday and the party, so we're like, oh, why don't
you tell us, you were feeling well, I know it's
a big deal. So next day we have everyone over
parties doing great. As everyone's starting to leave, I am
the type of guy who I cannot go to bed into.
My house is spotless every night. I do the dishes
every night. I clean, I vacuum, I sweet, I do
all these things. Well, then you know everyone's gone and
(31:48):
I'm doing the dishes, and all of a sudden, I'm
just like, you know what, I can't. I can't do
this tonight, And I leave everything in the sink and
I go upstairs and I lay down face first on
my bad much like Ryan probably members from our days
in the mansion together when we were when we were tested.
So I'm like, face first and this, and my wife thinks,
oh my god, he must have had too much to drink,
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which I had not had a thing to drink all day,
And so she takes a picture of me and thinks
it's funny and sends it out as a text message
to a group of our friends like look who's overserved
at Grayson's birthday party? You know or whatever? Uh, needless
to saying, I had what I thought later was COVID,
Like I went and got the testing for it to
see if maybe it had been the strain of COVID
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getting there kind of early. But it wasn't. It was
just a really bad flu. But how we knew how this,
how this transpired was everyone from our party got it
and they would literally call me and be like, well, hey,
thanks for the gift that keeps on giving. Uh, when
Grace's second birthday is coming around, to us a favor,
don't call us. Everybody got sick. Yeah, it is not fun.
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I don't like being sick, and um, it's not easy
when you're um, when your kids have to be everywhere, um,
at different places at different times, and thankfully they're at school,
you know most of the day. Max had a late
start today but we had to wake up at five
to take him to hockey practice that starts at six
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fifteen in the morning. Anyway, UM, yeah, it's not easy,
but yeah it was. It was so worth it. I
would do it a million times over, um if I
had to be sick and fed again, because it was
just so much fun to see all these people who
I know and love and be able to hug on
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them and um and just feel the love. So hopefully
you feel really special to knowing that Ryan and Blakesley
and your friends put in such a effort to plan people. Yeah,
people got on a plane, people got in a car,
and people made an effort to be there. It's just
shows you all loved you are. You know, you put
out positivity and you get it back. So I think
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it's wonderful. We actually had to change the location three
hours before the party because too many people came, and
so we had one restaurant booked and we showed up
with that gonna weak. That's fire code violation. We can't
have these people. I'm so sorry, Like what I were, like,
what did you get out your badge? And like, trust me,
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we're gonna be fine. And you could tell, like I
have a video that my mom took, so my parents
were kind of hidden in this back room if you will,
or back section of the restaurant um and she took
a video of kind of people waiting for me to
get there. And there's this this woman having dinner with
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probably her husband or whatever right next and you could
tell like she was just like why are these people here?
She was so frustrated because it was there were a
lot of people and it was they were, we were
all well, they were all pretty out before I got there.
And then of course, um, you know, surprise and everything. Yeah,
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the people who came there for dinner that night were
not super happy that there was a surprise party that
they Yeah, they were just unhappy they weren't invited. That's
the only problem, all right. Anyway, it was great. I
thank you, thank you, thank you. Think so, guys, I
want to talk about something. I don't know if you
two know this story, but I think that, you know,
(35:26):
I think that I might kind of be responsible for
this union Trusted and Ryan and I. I don't know
that I've ever shared the story. I know I've told
you Trusted, but I don't think Ryan's ever heard this
story before. But m Ryan, so I'll never forget you
and I meet the first night at the mansion, and
I am uh we just you know, we were in
the same areas a lot, and we were always laughing
(35:48):
with each other and stuff, and and I used to
love telling the story of how you know. People would
be like, oh my god, Bob played college football, and
I'm like I was, I was a backup A and
me talked to Ryan he played professional football, and it
would try to be crazy because Ryan would never you know,
I love that you wouldn't talk about it because it's
just who you are. You just you're so humble and
(36:08):
I love it. But I'd always be like, and I
would say that's people. They'd be like, oh yeah, he's
a fireman and a poet. And I'm like, you guys
have no idea who this guy is. I'm like, do
you realize you know, everyone sit here and talks about
Oh yeah, you know, it's a this in high school college.
I'm like, the dude played for the Ravens. Okay. So
I would always get myself so fired up about that.
I'm like, he doesn't talk about it. This is the guy,
(36:29):
trust me, this is your guy. You know. I'm like,
I'm out there leading the Century Club and he's writing poetry.
The guy is amazing. But I used to always always
talk about that stuff. But one of the things, I
don't know if I've ever told you this story. So
we were at a group date and I don't know,
I don't think Ryan was on this date with us,
but there were five of us. Remember when we went
on the You and I have talked about the great
(36:50):
dates they planned for you that year, the wonderful, the
wonderful gold card date, which really made sense with what
was going on in your family. And then of course
the beach date would the shellfish good come right? So
so we're on a beach date and I'm you know,
we we go there and there, yeah, you were there,
and and I'll never forget I'm standing there, you know
(37:11):
and just sort of like, oh, I don't know, we
really wants next, you know, I'm just kind of hanging
out and Trista and I had already kind of struck
up this this really great friend vibe, and I could
tell that, you know, it was like we really like
each other, and it was like, but but we were
we were necessarily clicking romantically, right, and so but that
was okay because neither one of us care. I was like,
we're just having a great time. When we'd be in
the same room together and I was just like, I
(37:33):
love this check She's awesome. So we're not on the
beach and I'll never I think it was Carbone. I'm
not entirely sure, but I want to say that it was.
He's like, hey, getting come here, I want to talk
to you. I'm like, yeah, hey, what's up in He's like,
what are you doing? And I go, oh, I'm just
going to grab a beer there out of the cool
and he's like, listen, uh, man, you really gotta get
on this Tristo. Trista really wants to kiss you. And
(37:57):
I go what. He goes, oh yeah, she uh she said,
She's like, I really want to kiss this guy. Uh
And I go, I go hold on, I said, hold
on this thing. I go, you're so you're telling me
the Trisa came up to you, the producers, and was like,
oh man, I'll tell you what if this day could
be any more special for me, I'd make out with
that guy in front of four other dudes. That's what
I want to do. And he's like yeah yeah. So
(38:18):
she said, I go, that's what she said you because yeah,
I go. I go, here's what's not gonna happen. I'm
not gonna try to kiss her on a beach in
front of four other dudes. It's not happening. So good try,
thank you, but it's not happened today. So I walk
away and as I'm walking away, I started to think
about it, and I'm like, I hope the Trista doesn't
think I don't want to kiss her because I mean,
(38:39):
you know, I mean she's lovely. Of course, I like
I've you know, I I liked it, you know, but
the whole time. So I'm like, you know, I don't know,
I'm not gonna necessarily try to kiss her, but I
could I should have at least take the opportunity to
go and talk to her. So I come back and
I've got a couple of beers. I'm coming back for
Jamie blythe I'm gonna give Jamie a beer. And you know,
Jamie's the most lovable mannequin. I'm a planet, right. The
(39:00):
guys just you wind him up and the circus. So
I drop walking back for a couple of beers and
I'm like, uh. Car goes like hell, ho where going?
So I'm gonna go get a beer to Jamie and
he's like no, no, no, he's uh, he's he's in
the middle of something right now. Oh. I kind of
glanced around everybody and like I see Jamie on the
beach going in to try and kiss Triss and she's
(39:21):
like whoa, no, thank you, no thanks, And I'm like yes.
So I was so glad that I didn't take the
bigger of course, you know, my dumb buddy does. So
we get the limo way after this whole shellfish thing,
and you know where it's just funny and and we're
in the limo and I and I go, hey, Tristy,
you know, um, I just want to say, you know,
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if my sister were on the show, because I was,
I was feeling like she I don't know, I felt
like I was supposed to protect you on these day.
I don't know why that was in my head, but
I'm like, you know, my sister on this show and
and you know, five dudes and on a beach, I'm like,
someone of them trying to make out with her. I
would I'm just gonna say it right now. I hope
you don't think that means we're not interested in getting
to know you better, because we are. We're just being respectful.
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And I and Jamie's sitting like down at the end
of the limo and I'm down here at the other end,
and Jamie's going and I'm like, but if someone did
try to kiss you, that wouldn't mean that they're a pig.
It would just mean that they're you know, they're doing
something different than me. I guess I don't know. I
don't know what a j's like can throw me under
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the bus man, I'm like, you're the dummy that listened
to Carbone. I tell you to do that. It's a
long but I feel like, you know. I guess I
should just say you guys are welcome. You know, yeah,
thank you, thanks, thank you. I've always given you a
ton of credit actually, especially in the early sort of
the early group dates, where all of the pressure was
(40:48):
off of me too to be sort of something I
wasn't because I'm not super extroverted. But if you were there,
then it was always a good time because you that
was you, and you took that um you did. You
handled that very well, and you made it fun for
everybody involved. Not it wasn't. You was just focused on Trista.
That everybody sort of got to be a part of
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a really good time when there was a group date
with you, Bob. And so I've I think I've told
Trista this many times. They that you you sort of
got me through those initial stages until it could be
more one on one and I could get to know
Trista just as a person and she could get me
as a person. But but yeah, I I didn't know
that the extent of the yeah. But yeah, I've always
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thought and I think we were super fortunate. And when
people ask me about the show, I always tell them, like, listen,
I liked every single guy that was on that, So there,
you know, we're not. I don't keep in touch with
them now, but I don't keep in touch with a
lot of people in my life now. For that period
in my life, I felt fortunate to have known all
of you guys, And um, it wasn't the kind of
(41:57):
show that was super dramatic, and there was not in
hiding between us. Like I told people initially, half the
time guys would were like, oh crap, I got a
date with Tris to like keep my beer like cold,
I'll be bad. Like there wasn't like amos like more
fun to be at the house sometimes than it was
to be outside of the house. So much fun. We
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had a good time. We were we were fortunate to
have that experience, and I feel like I it was
especially especially fortunate to have it in the way that
it did for me. But but the path along the
way was certainly enjoyable, and that was in large part
because of you. So thank you for that, buddy. I
means a lot to me. I I always say that
I was always like I felt like Ryan and I
were like the perfect man together. Like he was, you know,
(42:43):
just a stud, super sweet and kind, and I'm nice enough,
but you know, he's like he's sensitive and he's caring,
but he's also really funny and when you get to
know him, it's such a great time, you know, you know,
like and then I'm the one that just sort of
breaks the ice everywhere I go, and then you know,
you know, But it was one of those things where
I felt like, um, I agree with you. I mean,
I've often said it that I think interesting. I think,
(43:06):
you know, it does start at the top, and I
think that from that perspective, it really didn't start with you.
We weren't There wasn't a bunch of drama with us.
We were genuinely friends. Like I remember when I came
off the show, and I remember I didn't know who won,
and um, who was the choice? I should say, it's
not gently a winner. I suppose you know, I know
how that works. But I I said the wrong word there.
(43:26):
But I mean, I I was sitting I'm never forgetting
saying if she doesn't choose Brian, I will lose my
mind and everyone'll be like, A mean, I'm like, I
go I was choosing Ryan. I was like, Okay, how
do I keep Brian in my life? What do I
gotta do here? I gotta do I have any roses? Like,
how the hell do I do this? You know, because
it was like we'd be in our little bonk beds,
which were you know, like the single twin beds in
(43:47):
this big room, and it was like, you know, we
just all bonded and it was never i mean agreed,
like it was never one of those things where I'd
run into someone years later and be like, oh, there's
that guy. It was I was like, hey, you know,
I'm so we didn't have any of that stuff. You know,
it was so good. But I do think that starts
with you, Trista, because you sort you had to set
the pace for that and because of your experience, you know,
(44:11):
you made it so that it was drama free for us,
because you knew how that went right. I mean, it
was a little bit of Yeah, I don't know if
I had much to deal with it. I think you
guys were just awesome. It was just such a good
group of guys. And and at that point in time,
because it was so I knew, uh you know so
(44:32):
o g um, people weren't as into and maybe the
producers weren't as into kind of inciting the drama and like,
you know, getting people to to uh focus on in
fighting when it was just so I kind of wish
for that again. I wish there was just this great
(44:54):
group of guys or girls that just have such a
great time together. And and although I do kind of
like the drama watching, but at the same time, I
I loved my guys. I love you. Yeah, yeah, you
didn't have some great ones. I mean there was, I mean,
you know, to a number. I mean I keep in
(45:14):
touch with I still keep actually Jennie Blythe and Jack French,
you know, and of course the two of you, which
is nice and um, you know, and that's why I
feel like, you know, when I look at the season,
I mean I always kind of come back to that.
And then I told the story recently on the air, Rhine.
I'm not sure if you got to hear about it,
but I ran into the guy, the first guy I
met in the mansion after Green trist I walk inside
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and there's a guy standing there and he was just
this great looking guy and he's just standing there and
he was just very like perfect posture and he's like,
you know, how are you. I'm like good, you know,
and talking to him and he's like, you know, I
won't go back to the rabbit hole the whole story,
but I remember going, you know, so what do you do?
And he's like, I studied the martial arts. And I'm like, ah,
I too, studied the martial arts. And he's like you do.
I said yes. He's like what discipline? And I said tibo.
(46:00):
And Jamie Blyth of course is with me, and he's like,
are you going to feel like the funniest guy a
live I'm like yeah, zer and guys like that's not
a martial art brother, and I'm like, oh, tell Billy
blank Stath, you know, because that guy is making a fortune.
And I ran into him at the Kentucky Turkey like
two years ago, and I'm like, oh, I know this guy.
And he's like I was with you in trist this season.
(46:21):
I'm like, oh my god, and he that story, so
you know, I mean, even to this day, you know,
we can feel good running into each other because it's
always going to be pretty pleasant. Well, thank you so
much for coming um and walking down memory Lane with
me and Bob and chatting about how you're feeling. Um,
(46:43):
We've been talking about having you on for a really
long time, so thanks you. You've got to have the
original O G S on. You know what I mean,
this is this is the real deal. This makes me
so happy. And Ryan, I mean you, I love and
respect you man, and I just I'm so happy that
you would come on and share, you know, share a
lot of what you've been going on through too. I
think I think it is gonna help a lot of
people because whether it's you know, whether it is line disease,
(47:05):
or whether it's something else that they're dealing with. Like
you said, you have an open mind and be willing
to try some different things and not just go down
the conventional path of over medicating yourself. Not that so
you know, I'm sure some people can do that too.
But I think that's a pretty uh wise wise bit
of information to dispense today. So thanks for doing that
for us. Yeah, No, this was fun. It was fun.
It's kind of fun to think back on those those
(47:26):
days so long ago with the especially Jamie. I just
remember like dog food, stuff, anxiety attacks and all sorts
of stuff, and it's just kind of fun to read it.
I don't know if it's the same with you, but
it feels like a totally different time or I feel
like a lifetime ago, so to think about it, it's
kind of fun. So thanks for having me on and
(47:46):
allowing me to to partake in some of that and
to share my story. And uh, you know where to
find me if you if you ever want to talk again.
By the way, I'm downstairs. Okay, your trial separation there
in the in the downstairs level. I love that good.
(48:11):
I know you hit gold on the show. You know
that you genuinely sure did. I am a lucky girl
that you really are. I said, also, you know that
if Ryan wasn't there, I don't know that anyone else
would have worked, just because I just feel like he
(48:32):
was meant to be my person. So I did too.
I honestly thought that I thought that while I was
still on the show, which is kind of crazy. I
remember being somewhere and thinking to myself, like, I don't
feel like I'm ready for this, you know, and we weren't.
We weren't like we didn't even never have an individual take,
(48:52):
you know what I mean. We were always on great
case together. But I remember thinking to myself, like, if
I'm being honest, because I you know, I cared about
you and I like you so much so quickly, and
I was like, if I'm being honest about this, who's
the right person for her here? You know? And and
I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, it's gotta be riot,
It's gotta be like there's you know. And back then,
as you recall, the show was always edited to make
(49:13):
the second or third uh Evisually I was left in
the mix that person looked like hands down and they
had to be the person. And this is no not Charlie,
because I loved Charlie too, but it was like, you know,
there was it was always gonna be that was the
person of the crowd thought, oh, this is it. And
then then the person who would come in in the
end and be the one that got the proposal or
was the one that actually proposed and it was the
(49:35):
proposal was accepted. They were the ones that, you know,
I feel a lot of footage was probably left to
the cutting room floor of them, because they really were
kind of stacking the deck so that people would be surprised.
And um, and I mean that's that's not a secret.
That was something that I think, you know, was pretty
out after like the first five or six seasons and
that's when they started switching up the formats of the
show and stuff. But I just remember that day that
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I remember thinking to myself, like, it's time. It's time
for me to get out of the way here because
I I don't want to be a distraction and and
um and you know, and you obviously were thinking the
same thing as me, because that's when you let me go.
But it was like one of those things. I was
kind of like, I remember thinking how much I wanted
you to meet my family and everything, but also how
I was like, I'm not ready if we were to
(50:16):
go to the next level, would I be able to
pull the trigger and do the right thing? And I
I'm not ready. But if I look at this room
of guys, who is ready? Who is and who's ready
for this person? Specifically? That was Ryan? That was Ryan
all day long. It I can say, honestly, you know,
remembering back then, he wouldn't have been the way that
he was with you, which is anybody you know that
(50:37):
wasn't That wasn't Ryan Sutter style, you know what I mean.
He was that way with you because you were you
and that was what he wanted, and it was I mean,
it was genuine from the jump. And I remember thinking myself, like, God,
that's that's the one, you know. So it's always nice
to to be associated with with that era of this show.
And you were there. We were there the golden years.
(51:00):
As we say, yeah, yeah, I can say it too.
We are, I guess in our golden era as fifty
year old or fifty plus year old whatever we are.
Plus he's just a baby's little babe. I love you.
I hope you feel better. I know you're not feeling
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great today, but I hope you are still reveling in
the good feelings from your birthday bash. Yes, it was
so fun. Thank you, Thank you for the chat. I'm
glad we got to chat again today, And as always,
tune in to the next almost famous O. G.
This is the Almost Famous podcast with her radio. Well, Hi,
just welcome to almost Famous. Oh geez, that's everybody that's
us know. How are my friend? How happy birthday? Happy?
Believe you? Thank you very I finally joined your club.
(00:23):
Good club. I've been here for a while and I've
just been kicking it by myself. I'm so thankful to
have somebody else here with me. Thank God. Oh I'm here,
I'm here. Um. I do have to say I have
not been feeling well. Um, so if my energy level
(00:43):
is a little low, that's why. But um, I'm excited
to talk to our guest today. I am too. You
know something about this guest and I want to tease
this a little because I don't know if anyone knows
who he is yet. He was my roommate actually on
the first season of The Bachelorette. We were we were
bunkmates in a giant mansion bedroom. Did you actually have
(01:07):
bunk beds or were there just mattresses on the floor.
They were all single beds, so like, I mean, they
probably were bunk beds. I would imagine what a set
of stacking them. I think they knew better, you know
now they stack them. But back then it was all
single beds, and Ryan and I were pretty close to
Oh shit, I just give it away. I just it's okay.
He's coming in literally a minute. So it's yes, one
(01:31):
of my one of my my favorite people from the show,
a very dear friend of mine, and you kind of
know him too, I guess. But today it's really about
he and I. I mean, it's really our connection. Ryan's
in the waiting room. Yeah, yes, um yeah, Ryan center,
come on in. I don't think he needs much introduction,
(01:55):
but he does not. I mean, if you are, if
you're gonna call you and I the o g s.
She is the only other uh, the only other guy
that's that's still in the in the Bachelor Bachelor Nation.
What do you call it? Zeitgeist? That's what the heck
is that word? Zeitgeist nists. This word we podcasters we
(02:18):
use areas. Hi, handsome, How are you, buddy? I'm good.
Can you guys hear me? Yes? Okay? Can't we even
hear you upstairs? I mean it's perfect technology like it?
(02:45):
Yeah right, I know? Yeah. I mean, as I said,
I haven't been feeling well, so we are in separate rooms.
Um we I'm trying to keep this guy healthy as
um as you know, Bob, he's been dealing with some
hell stuff. And one of the things, Babe, that I
wanted to have you come on and talk about today, Um,
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because I feel like people always want to know whenever
I post anything is how you're feeling. So can you
tell everybody a little bit about what's going on lately,
how you're feeling. Sure? But before I do, I think
you guys should title this episode Ryan Interest to talk
about their separation. What do you mean was downstairs? Just
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it was upstairs? What we didn't sit here like that? Yes,
we're doing that. Yes, And there's just a picture. It's
not any it's not any audio. We're just gonna say
Ryan in trist to talk about their separation on like
a caption. Yeah, totally but perfect. I I guess going
(04:01):
back to your original question, I'm just tired today, but
that's just because I've been working. Um, we're just going
from work, and so I think if you're starting, like
if you want to start like right this moment, I'm
just a little bit tired. But lately I've been feeling
pretty good. Um, you know, I don't I don't know
(04:21):
how far back you want to go, or what kind
of summer you want to be or including this. But
you know, the last few years, like everyone, really have
been sort of difficult, uh, you know, on a lot
of people's personal health and mind included UM and and
just sort of working my way through that and finding
UM finding and continuing to search for UM opportunities to
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heal and get better and UM. You know, it's it's
tough also because we're entering this sort of second phase
of our lives. And so as you're getting older, you're
you're wanting to you're wanting to sort of do you
want your second half of your life to live up
to your first half? And it's hard figure out what
that looks like because it can't be the same. It
just that you have to sort of redefine your priorities
(05:06):
and UM, you know, try to temper what maybe your
expectations are. And so that's a secondary struggle to the
health part is UM. I've always sort of measured myself
on sort of physical benchmarks, and some of that has
to UM has to subside, and I have to find
other ways to UM to see how I'm doing because physically,
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I just you know, when you're forty eight, you just
can't do what you could when you were thirty eight
or twenty eight, regardless of whether or not you've gone
through health challenges. So so there's just a lot of
things going on UM at the moment that I'm just
trying to sort out, and UM, you know, with your
help and um the support of of family and friends,
I think we're making progress. I'm sorry about that about
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turning forty eight. I don't really remember what that was like. Um,
this was so long ago for me. UM, but I
know for a fact that even at thirty eight and
twenty eight, because I've known you for a long time,
I was never in as gonna shape you as you
are at forty eight. So you know, I am. I
am glad to hear that you're feeling better, though, because
I know it's been a challenge for you. And you know,
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a lot of us that follow, you know, follow the
both of you on Instagram as I do, and that's
kind of you know, you never for me personally, even
though we've all known each other for so long, I
never wanted to ask the question like, Hey, what's going
on because it felt like it was too personal of
a question and it wasn't you You too kind of
alluded to it, but it was. It wasn't until you
were really willing to talk about it that kind of
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you know, we all were able to kind of get
a glimpse into what you've been battling and some of
the alternative things that you've done to to get yourself
back to feeling better, you know, like I want. I mean,
you and I talked about it when we were on
top together, and I was just fascinated with the whole
thing with with respect to the bees, and I mean,
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I was just blown away by it because I know,
for a fact, to myself, I am terrified of being
stung by a being. I mean, even though I'm a
grown up now, I mean, I'm I'm a grown up
my you know, my son gets all stressed out of
cries about the idea of a be staying him. I
do too, And um, you know I know that you
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you actually had to basically, you know, uh, get over
not only the just the I don't even know what
you call the trepidation of being stung by being that
momentary you know, feeling that you you're doing it quite
a bit. As is an alternative form of therapy. Can
we talk about that a litt bit too. Yeah, So
I think Bob, you and your son's fear of being
stung by a b is a healthy fear. And before
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I even start with advocating for this be vendom stuff
that I do. Um, you don't want to just go
out and start stinging yourself with bees. It can be
extremely harmful. Some people are very very allergic m manaphylactically
bad and it can you know, there are certainly reasons
for lots of people to be scared of these. However,
there are also lots of reasons for people to see
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to sort of be very grateful for bees. Um. You know,
obviously there's the obvious delicious honey that they make, and
the pollination and all that sort of stuff. But again,
the movies, like one of my very favorite movies was
the b movie. I love that movie. Oh yeah actress actress. Yeah,
there they are wonderful actress bees. But they, um, they're
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actually remarkable. Like if you ever get down and go down,
I want to go down that rabbit hole there. Um. Yeah,
they're they're very community driven. They know they're it's just
they're fascinating. They're able to communicate and lots of different
ways and all of the things that they accomplish. Um
as these tiny little creatures are, it's it's pretty amazing
(08:46):
what they do. Most of the the work actually being
done by women, women bees female. So yeah, so that
the human race, I can see. That's good. So anyway, UM,
the the honeybee in particular, not all bees, but the
honeybee has a venom that contains this, uh, this particular
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product called militant, which is been proven to be have
anti viral, anti bacterial, antifungal properties. It's a really powerful
potent thing. And um, when you used sort of correctly,
when you when you use it in a therapeutic way,
it can help root out things like lyme disease, which
is what I'm using it for, um and kill it
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and so you can get rid of it. Whereas there's
a lot of schools of thought that once you sort
of have this long term chronic find disease, you never
get rid of it. It It just hides out and you know,
far deep places in your body and just sort of
rereaks havoc on you forever. But these this b venom
has um has shown some pretty powerful effects against it
and it's a it's a commitment. Obviously I've been I've
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been on this program with UM with a company called
the Heel Hive for almost I guess I started almost
a year ago. Wow, I can't believe it's been that long. Yeah. Yeah,
I didn't start stinging with the bees until last spring.
But there's a which is why you want to go
with something like the He'll Hive because they'll guide you
through a preliminary protocol which UM, which because is going
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to make sure you're not going to have some sort
of anaphylactic reaction, to make sure they're taking care of
all these other potential UM infections and and that you're
you're eating the right diets and that sort of stuff,
so you're set up well for success UM. And that
takes several months to get to that point, and then
you do. You know, Trista was there when we did
the first initial sting, which was you just you you know,
(10:40):
we keep bees in our house. We don't have a hive.
UM someday I would like to, but that's an argument
Tristan and I are continuing to I'm continuing to lose.
But so right now I just have I get these
shipped here or in the summertime, I collect them locally,
but we we did one test sting to make sure
I wasn't allergic. Um. We keep a couple of eppens
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in the house. I have one in my truck. Yeah,
And um, so every other day now I sting myself
with anywhere from um four to seven or eight bees.
And this is these are live bees that you I
grab with these little tweezers, and they're all The stings
happen along my sort of spinal path on my back,
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lower back. And um, yeah, the first few times it's
weird because you're just sort of the anticipation of waiting
for ye be to sting you was weird. But but
now now it's, um, it's just second nature. I just
it's all pretty fast. He actually he will. He will
do it and then come upstairs and be like, hey,
can you scrape the stingers off? Because the method is
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he holds him to his back they sting him hopefully, um, quickly,
because honey bees actually don't want to sting you on
like wasps, and so usually have to hold him. And
I used to have to hold him, and um, now
he's doing it on his own. But he'll sting himself
and then come upstairs and you take like a little
credit card or a harder card and scrape out the
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the stingers. At this point in time, he leaves them
in the stingers for thirty seconds. And isn't that like
the kind of the maximum amount of time, like they
after thirty seconds From what the He'll hive has described,
the venom starts to lose, like you get the maximum
impact after thirty seconds. So, um, in the beginning he
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was stinging for like one to three to five seconds,
and then that would increase with um, you know, the weeks.
But now he'll come upstairs and be like, hey, can
you get the stingers out? Um? Does it all on
his own? That was that was a question I was
I had was you know, I remember being stung as
a kid, and you know, always you go to your mom,
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dad or whatever, they grab tweezers and they pull the
stinger out, you know, And so that was going to
be my question, like do you do you when you
do that with the card it does it remove the
thing or completely? Or is there still a little piece
of left in there? No, that's the intent is trying
to scrape it out. Um, and get the stinger ound completely. Yeah,
there's a little barb on the end, so it's kind
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of like a fishook. If you try to pull it
straight out, it actually can catch and that's when that's
when you get a little bit left. But did you
scrape it out? It usually comes out a little more cleanly.
They do you want to go grab the little house
and just show, um, Bob, I feel like people are
interested to see the little house. So we keep this
little bee house in um, in our pantry. It used
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to be just in our kitchen, and some of the
bees were dying, and we think because it was a
little chillier. UM, So we keep it in our pantry
and try to keep the door closed. UM. And he
usually gets I don't know, like fifty sixty at a time.
And then there are I don't I don't know that
we have any right now. UM, but there's some coming today,
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but there I don't have any of them here yet.
How do they arrive? Really like a container, like a
I mean little box. They come in this little box,
this tiny little box. Yeah, this is an older one,
but um, so sixty b s will cram into this
thing and they like to be close together they keep
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That's how they are in their hives. They're they're very tight.
And then um, when they get to my house, we
put them in this little oh nice, this little thing,
a little bigger house. Yeah, and then we have a
problem with them flying out of there and when you
when you open it to like grab one and they
all just like storm out of there. So the crazy
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thing is, um sometimes like if I'm in I always
do this, and usually in my son's bathroom because it's
the smallest and um Port Mexicans the smallest bathroom. But
we so if they do, they do get out there
easy to recapture. But oftentimes in the summertime, I would um,
i would do the stinging ritual and then I'll take
this the house out to my back porch and just
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open the open it wide up right up and let
him fly around because the bees actually need to go
to the restroom. They don't like to go to the
restroom in their house, which none of us would and
so and they like to be able to fly around
from time to time. And the crazy thing is I
thought that I would, um, I would lose all my bees.
I didn't really trust the trust that they would come back.
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But they they all come back, They all fly back in.
And isn't that crazy? He literally says, I'm going to
let them take a walk. So the bees are taking
a walk, and they all I mean for the most part,
maybe we these one or two, but um, yeah, they
always come back to the house. Isn't that crazy? That's fascinating.
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I mean, yet another awesome quality of bees, right, I mean,
just that's pretty love oar bees. We love our bees.
They have done so much. I mean, talk about kind
of how since you started to be about in therapy,
how you're feeling UM, has it helped Do you feel
that it has helped UM? It has absolutely helped, I
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think as a component of of sort of a lifestyle shift.
I mean, there are other things that I think have
helped as well. But I was I was definitely plateaued
with just trying to find UM any other source of relief, so,
you know, and I tried a lot of things like
a dust duss of herbal things and different sorts of
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detoxication things. And when we started with the heel Hive
program and the bees, that's the first time I felt
like I was starting to get actual long lasting recovery.
It's like I said, it's still a component of a
larger lifestyle change. There's still dietary things that I do
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and and exercise is huge, and detoxification and some supplements.
But the supplement list is like four supplements now it's
just as opposed to like a countertop full of of um,
just all sorts of It was overwhelming, and it was
with the stress of just trying to figure out when
you're supposed to take your vitamins. It was almost worse
(17:07):
than the disease. But um, but yeah, so I would
I like to say that I feel like, um, you know,
probably eight percent of the time I feel better, and
then there's a twenty still where I'll have like a yeah,
I just won't feel as good. But um, it's that
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even those days are far better than the worst days
used to be. So everything is just sort of upticked.
It's been more been more more positive days, more feeling better,
and then even the down days are are less down.
So and that all happened. Um as I've worked through
this be venom therapy and continues to sort of tick up. Um,
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there are times when all maybe there was one time
where I did my steeing, I went, I was doing
eight stings and then one of those bees did come
out and it stung me on the chest, and then
I went for a bike rid it got stung again
by just a random outdoor be and that was too much,
and that that triggered a What it's called is is
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a Hirk's reaction, and it's when the venom actually kills
off bacteria in your system, and the toxic bacteria are
left in your system and there's too much of it
for your body to to work through, um efficiently, and
it just makes you feel sick. So there there, it's
there's still some trial and error to the whole thing.
I'm talking actually to Brooke at the Heel High this afternoon, UM,
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just to you know, come up with the game plan
moving forward, um as of reaching this one year sort
of um moments but um, but yeah, I think the
long story short, I attribute a lot of the success
that we've been having to the to the bees, which
is awesome because I love I love nature, I love
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natural types of solutions. I love being outside and this
just feels like it's um wholesome in that regard. So
I feel like it's it's authentic to what I would
would like to do as a person anyways, So and
that that probably helps to just knowing that you're doing
something that's true to yourself and then honestly being able
to let the bees out and see that they come
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back makes me feel better too that they don't. I
don't feel like I'm holding them because they are mean.
The sad thing is that that that when they sting you,
they die any time, within a few hours or a
few days later because the sting um, you know, they
have that one sting and if they use it, they die.
So that every single bee that stings me is sacrificing
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her life for me to feel better, And so I
just want that to be a meaningful sacrifice for them. Yeah,
I was. I was you thinking too about your you know,
(20:02):
your profession with being a firefighter and doing the things
that you do. And I know that I mean historically anyway, now,
you know, I've never really talked about this, but I
assume this is probably the case for you that you do,
you know, three or four days on and then you know,
however that works from your from your employment cycle, and
that's got to be first of all, that would be
utterly exhausting anyway, But then on top of that, to
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be in the situation where you've been over the last
few years. Man, I could only imagine how much that
just takes audio. So was it something that you know,
kind of because I remember a few years ago you
sort of stepped away for a little while and then
you got right back into it. Was that something that
was sort of driving the bus on that decision too,
or was it was it something else? You know? Is
it just you know, you want to spread your wings
and look at some other things, or you know, was
it was it sort of the fatigue and things that
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we're taking as toll a little. But uh, when I left,
when I left the Veil fire Department, yeah, I was
going through um similar but not the same type of
health issues and it all may have been related. It
turns out that may have been the beginning of what
I was dealing within the dealing with now. But um yeah,
so I left and I got I got a little
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bit better, But then I was in a profession that
I didn't enjoy, and leaving actually made me realize how
much I did enjoy the fire profession. So um, so
I went back, and I went but I went back
instead of to Veil, I went down to Denver and
so so our schedule is, um, it's good and bad.
We work. We worked a twenty four hour shift and
then we're off for forty eight UM, and then I
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would work some trades here and there to try to
extend that because, uh, that one thing that has become
apparent is that getting enough sleep is huge, um in life,
especially when you're trying to recover from anything really a
race or um an illness or whatever. So that it
is a tricky balance. Bob, Like I try to do
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the best I can. Interest is pretty tolerant of me
taking naps and that sort of stuff. Um. The fact
that I worked two hours away hasn't helped, you know.
So I created a situation where I love the department
I work with. UM. It's actually, you know, I didn't
not like the department I left. UM. I have a
new found appreciation even for those guys now and the
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work that we were doing up here. But I needed
a change of scenery. So I went down there, and UM,
and I love it. It's just it does get a
little exhausting driving back and forth and you know, wanting
to rest and getting up so early in the morning
and and knowing the impact that that lack of sleep
can have, so I try to, Um, I just try
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to approach days with a little more perspective and not
just have my foot on the gas but all the time,
and and that sort of that sort of helps see
stars they're just like us. I love that. This is
like anazing you know, people that think that's your fans
and they they see you too. It's just this you know,
golden couple, which we all see that. But you know,
(22:55):
it's nice to know that, um, you know that that
we actually have to have jobs, which we do, and
but also that you know we faced challenges and that
that you guys are particulating me because you guys have
been I think, the benchmark of the franchise for such
a long time, and you know, to know that you
go through these struggles, you go through them together and
you're just like another married couple. You help each other
through them, you figure it out, you know. And uh,
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I've always said that about you guys. You know, it's
kind of funny because we were all kind of along
for the ride together for the longest time that Trista
took us both on and you know, it was so
fun to be in a in a way, you know,
I was kind of like your guys mouth piece when
you weren't there, because people would always go, oh, come on, yeah, yeah,
but he was on the show, and I'm like, I'm like,
trust me, yes they do. And hello, you know, I
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don't know, just said Ryan. And you know, especially once
you guys add Max and Blakesley too, that it was
like a totally different conversation because it's like, you know,
now they have children, guys, and now you know, now
they're at their twenty year innver. It's like, you know, hey,
how long are you gonna keep on? You know, thinking
it doesn't work? This is proof positive it does. And
then we all you know, but yeah, I'm glad you're
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feeling better, buddy. And I think that, um, you know,
when we got to hang out to a little bit
a little bit together a Tahoe, may you appreciate what
you've been going through because I really didn't know as much.
And and you know, you're such a gracious person. You
don't really talk about it too often. You don't talk
about yourself very often at all, So I think, um,
you know, it's kind of nice to actually hear about
it and fascinating to hear about the treatment, you know,
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So I'm glad you're feeling better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank
thanks for the opportunity. I don't I don't like to
talk much about anything, to be honest, I'm sort of
like my my son in that regard. But but this
is one thing, Um, this is one thing where that
that I feel like it's important to talk about because
one thing I found out is how many people are
going through similar situations, and how lost so many people are,
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and desperate so many people are, and and um, just
the fact that there's this crazy like I'm doing this
vat of therapy. It may not be right for everybody,
but I never would have imagined myself using these as
a as a way to heal him and get better.
And so I just want to encourage people to have
an open mind, to to advocate for themselves, and to
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continue to have hope in in finding a solution that
fits who they are and what they need, because it's
almost certainly out there. It's just oftentimes you don't get
the best advice right out of the gate, and so
you have to just kind of, you know, keep plugging
away and and that's the reason why I like, I
don't like, but that I'm willing to talk about it
(25:26):
to some degree. UM, because I do want people to
to have some hope and not feel like it's the
end of the end of the world if if they're
coming down with these diagnosis is because I think there
are solutions out there if you're open minded and so
so thanks for having me on and for giving me
the opportunity to see my life for the first time.
And like a week so we have to bring people
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together here at the UM, but you're not getting out
so quick. I, UM, I am going to take this
opportunity to because we hopefully we'll have some people listening, hopefully. UM.
I want to take this opportunity to say thank you
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to you, babe for um my surprise party. So Bob
he I have been wanting a surprise party since I
can remember, like since I was little, always always wanted one.
And like a week before my birthday, I was riding
in the car with Blake Slate and she's like, are
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you so excited for your birthday? And like, I don't know,
I'm like, I really just I would love to have
surprise party. You know, we were just talking about um celebrating.
And I think that's to my knowledge, babe, I think
I heard this correctly. That she came home and she's like, okay,
we need to have a surprise party. So I think
a week before, right, no no, no, no no no
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no no okay, so never mind, So take that away. Anyway,
even if it was like um, last minute or not.
He got so many of my friends and my family.
I haven't seen my dad and my step mom in
a year since well over a year since last summer.
We went to St. Louis to visit them, and then
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my mom flew intown and Bob, you know her Hayley
pretending or Platt is your married nick um even though
they aren't together anymore. But yes, she was Chris's um,
my brother in law's date to our wedding, and she um,
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she flew in for it. And anyway, it was such
an incredible surprise, such an incredible night, like I did
not want it to end. I could not stop smiling.
So I just want to say thank you, babe, for
on this public platform, if you will, for putting that
together and making me feel special. Well, you're welcome. I
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had a lot of help but yeah, right, we did it.
We did our best. It's either I'm very hard trying
it that's horrible, and I'm terrible at it, so especially
in today's day and age. So, Bob, I got a
a text message from one of the people who was
supposed to come to the party, like three hours before,
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four hours before, and they texted, I haven't talked to
him in forever. I'm not going to name them, um,
but they texted me and they're like, hey, so it's
been so long, dada, UM, have so much fun tonight.
And I was like, we can't come, but have so
much fun tonight. And I said, oh, it's great to
hear from you about what is what's tonight. And then
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we're driving, Um, we had to pick up Blakesley from dance.
We're driving from the dance studio to the location and um,
I was looking at my phone and I guess some
text messages had come in so on Ryan's truck like
he has like the system we're you can see your
text messages show up on the screen or whatever. Yeah,
And so Blakesley and one of my friends Jen, who
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was planning the party, and Ryan and maybe somebody else
were on this group text, and they had texted and
Ryan like shoot that away off of the screen and
then detected dismiss. It's because blake So Blakesley's role was
to tell that we were on our way when we
picked up from dance, and so I had sent this
group text to say like, hey, Blakesley, here's Jen in
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Atlanta's phone number. UM just texted when we leave and
so yeah, stupid vehicles these days are all like so
bluetooth connected. Blakes Blakesley does exactly what she was supposed
to do. She sends a text. She just replied to
my group text, which I was on, and my truck
was like, oh, text coming in from Blakesley. No, no doubt.
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He literally was like no, no, no, And I was like,
what is happening? So we so yeah, so yeah that's
just good, Like like anything can ruin it. It's like
this whole and we had probably been planning it for
a month or so, and so for a month you're
just on pins and needles, walking on eggshells. I'm like
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catch myself wanting to ask her, like what should we do?
What your parents are here? Kind of questions. Yeah, it's
just so hard, but but it ended up. It wasn't
as big of a surprise as I thought. But it
was a great party and it was a great celebration.
It was so my son's first birthday party. We you know,
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it was it was pre COVID and we were all excited.
So we had this huge party. Every one of our
family members came over, close friends with kids and stuff,
and you know, it was awesome. And you know, if
you look back at the pictures, you can kind of
tell something's off with with Grace and my son. But
that day are nanny was supposed to come. Originally she
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was gonna come and work, and my wife called her
and she goes, hey, you know what, don't even worry
about it. We're gonna have so much family here. Just
take the day unless you know, we still love you
to come. And she was kind of like, kind of
like a little bit like, you know, no, thanks, I'm good.
I don't feel well anyway. I haven't felt very good
for the last week and I've been coming every day
and we're like, this is the first we've heard of it.
This is literally the day before the party. It's like
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Friday and the party, so we're like, oh, why don't
you tell us, you were feeling well, I know it's
a big deal. So next day we have everyone over
parties doing great. As everyone's starting to leave, I am
the type of guy who I cannot go to bed into.
My house is spotless every night. I do the dishes
every night. I clean, I vacuum, I sweet, I do
all these things. Well, then you know everyone's gone and
(31:48):
I'm doing the dishes, and all of a sudden, I'm
just like, you know what, I can't. I can't do
this tonight, And I leave everything in the sink and
I go upstairs and I lay down face first on
my bad much like Ryan probably members from our days
in the mansion together when we were when we were tested.
So I'm like, face first and this, and my wife thinks,
oh my god, he must have had too much to drink,
(32:08):
which I had not had a thing to drink all day,
And so she takes a picture of me and thinks
it's funny and sends it out as a text message
to a group of our friends like look who's overserved
at Grayson's birthday party? You know or whatever? Uh, needless
to saying, I had what I thought later was COVID,
Like I went and got the testing for it to
see if maybe it had been the strain of COVID
(32:29):
getting there kind of early. But it wasn't. It was
just a really bad flu. But how we knew how this,
how this transpired was everyone from our party got it
and they would literally call me and be like, well, hey,
thanks for the gift that keeps on giving. Uh, when
Grace's second birthday is coming around, to us a favor,
don't call us. Everybody got sick. Yeah, it is not fun.
(32:57):
I don't like being sick, and um, it's not easy
when you're um, when your kids have to be everywhere, um,
at different places at different times, and thankfully they're at school,
you know most of the day. Max had a late
start today but we had to wake up at five
to take him to hockey practice that starts at six
(33:18):
fifteen in the morning. Anyway, UM, yeah, it's not easy,
but yeah it was. It was so worth it. I
would do it a million times over, um if I
had to be sick and fed again, because it was
just so much fun to see all these people who
I know and love and be able to hug on
(33:38):
them and um and just feel the love. So hopefully
you feel really special to knowing that Ryan and Blakesley
and your friends put in such a effort to plan people. Yeah,
people got on a plane, people got in a car,
and people made an effort to be there. It's just
shows you all loved you are. You know, you put
out positivity and you get it back. So I think
(33:59):
it's wonderful. We actually had to change the location three
hours before the party because too many people came, and
so we had one restaurant booked and we showed up
with that gonna weak. That's fire code violation. We can't
have these people. I'm so sorry, Like what I were, like,
what did you get out your badge? And like, trust me,
(34:21):
we're gonna be fine. And you could tell, like I
have a video that my mom took, so my parents
were kind of hidden in this back room if you will,
or back section of the restaurant um and she took
a video of kind of people waiting for me to
get there. And there's this this woman having dinner with
(34:44):
probably her husband or whatever right next and you could
tell like she was just like why are these people here?
She was so frustrated because it was there were a
lot of people and it was they were, we were
all well, they were all pretty out before I got there.
And then of course, um, you know, surprise and everything. Yeah,
(35:04):
the people who came there for dinner that night were
not super happy that there was a surprise party that
they Yeah, they were just unhappy they weren't invited. That's
the only problem, all right. Anyway, it was great. I
thank you, thank you, thank you. Think so, guys, I
want to talk about something. I don't know if you
two know this story, but I think that, you know,
(35:26):
I think that I might kind of be responsible for
this union Trusted and Ryan and I. I don't know
that I've ever shared the story. I know I've told
you Trusted, but I don't think Ryan's ever heard this
story before. But m Ryan, so I'll never forget you
and I meet the first night at the mansion, and
I am uh we just you know, we were in
the same areas a lot, and we were always laughing
(35:48):
with each other and stuff, and and I used to
love telling the story of how you know. People would
be like, oh my god, Bob played college football, and
I'm like I was, I was a backup A and
me talked to Ryan he played professional football, and it
would try to be crazy because Ryan would never you know,
I love that you wouldn't talk about it because it's
just who you are. You just you're so humble and
(36:08):
I love it. But I'd always be like, and I
would say that's people. They'd be like, oh yeah, he's
a fireman and a poet. And I'm like, you guys
have no idea who this guy is. I'm like, do
you realize you know, everyone sit here and talks about
Oh yeah, you know, it's a this in high school college.
I'm like, the dude played for the Ravens. Okay. So
I would always get myself so fired up about that.
I'm like, he doesn't talk about it. This is the guy,
(36:29):
trust me, this is your guy. You know. I'm like,
I'm out there leading the Century Club and he's writing poetry.
The guy is amazing. But I used to always always
talk about that stuff. But one of the things, I
don't know if I've ever told you this story. So
we were at a group date and I don't know,
I don't think Ryan was on this date with us,
but there were five of us. Remember when we went
on the You and I have talked about the great
(36:50):
dates they planned for you that year, the wonderful, the
wonderful gold card date, which really made sense with what
was going on in your family. And then of course
the beach date would the shellfish good come right? So
so we're on a beach date and I'm you know,
we we go there and there, yeah, you were there,
and and I'll never forget I'm standing there, you know
(37:11):
and just sort of like, oh, I don't know, we
really wants next, you know, I'm just kind of hanging
out and Trista and I had already kind of struck
up this this really great friend vibe, and I could
tell that, you know, it was like we really like
each other, and it was like, but but we were
we were necessarily clicking romantically, right, and so but that
was okay because neither one of us care. I was like,
we're just having a great time. When we'd be in
the same room together and I was just like, I
(37:33):
love this check She's awesome. So we're not on the
beach and I'll never I think it was Carbone. I'm
not entirely sure, but I want to say that it was.
He's like, hey, getting come here, I want to talk
to you. I'm like, yeah, hey, what's up in He's like,
what are you doing? And I go, oh, I'm just
going to grab a beer there out of the cool
and he's like, listen, uh, man, you really gotta get
on this Tristo. Trista really wants to kiss you. And
(37:57):
I go what. He goes, oh yeah, she uh she said,
She's like, I really want to kiss this guy. Uh
And I go, I go hold on, I said, hold
on this thing. I go, you're so you're telling me
the Trisa came up to you, the producers, and was like,
oh man, I'll tell you what if this day could
be any more special for me, I'd make out with
that guy in front of four other dudes. That's what
I want to do. And he's like yeah yeah. So
(38:18):
she said, I go, that's what she said you because yeah,
I go. I go, here's what's not gonna happen. I'm
not gonna try to kiss her on a beach in
front of four other dudes. It's not happening. So good try,
thank you, but it's not happened today. So I walk
away and as I'm walking away, I started to think
about it, and I'm like, I hope the Trista doesn't
think I don't want to kiss her because I mean,
(38:39):
you know, I mean she's lovely. Of course, I like
I've you know, I I liked it, you know, but
the whole time. So I'm like, you know, I don't know,
I'm not gonna necessarily try to kiss her, but I
could I should have at least take the opportunity to
go and talk to her. So I come back and
I've got a couple of beers. I'm coming back for
Jamie blythe I'm gonna give Jamie a beer. And you know,
Jamie's the most lovable mannequin. I'm a planet, right. The
(39:00):
guys just you wind him up and the circus. So
I drop walking back for a couple of beers and
I'm like, uh. Car goes like hell, ho where going?
So I'm gonna go get a beer to Jamie and
he's like no, no, no, he's uh, he's he's in
the middle of something right now. Oh. I kind of
glanced around everybody and like I see Jamie on the
beach going in to try and kiss Triss and she's
(39:21):
like whoa, no, thank you, no thanks, And I'm like yes.
So I was so glad that I didn't take the
bigger of course, you know, my dumb buddy does. So
we get the limo way after this whole shellfish thing,
and you know where it's just funny and and we're
in the limo and I and I go, hey, Tristy,
you know, um, I just want to say, you know,
(39:42):
if my sister were on the show, because I was,
I was feeling like she I don't know, I felt
like I was supposed to protect you on these day.
I don't know why that was in my head, but
I'm like, you know, my sister on this show and
and you know, five dudes and on a beach, I'm like,
someone of them trying to make out with her. I
would I'm just gonna say it right now. I hope
you don't think that means we're not interested in getting
to know you better, because we are. We're just being respectful.
(40:04):
And I and Jamie's sitting like down at the end
of the limo and I'm down here at the other end,
and Jamie's going and I'm like, but if someone did
try to kiss you, that wouldn't mean that they're a pig.
It would just mean that they're you know, they're doing
something different than me. I guess I don't know. I
don't know what a j's like can throw me under
(40:24):
the bus man, I'm like, you're the dummy that listened
to Carbone. I tell you to do that. It's a
long but I feel like, you know. I guess I
should just say you guys are welcome. You know, yeah,
thank you, thanks, thank you. I've always given you a
ton of credit actually, especially in the early sort of
the early group dates, where all of the pressure was
(40:48):
off of me too to be sort of something I
wasn't because I'm not super extroverted. But if you were there,
then it was always a good time because you that
was you, and you took that um you did. You
handled that very well, and you made it fun for
everybody involved. Not it wasn't. You was just focused on Trista.
That everybody sort of got to be a part of
(41:08):
a really good time when there was a group date
with you, Bob. And so I've I think I've told
Trista this many times. They that you you sort of
got me through those initial stages until it could be
more one on one and I could get to know
Trista just as a person and she could get me
as a person. But but yeah, I I didn't know
that the extent of the yeah. But yeah, I've always
(41:37):
thought and I think we were super fortunate. And when
people ask me about the show, I always tell them, like, listen,
I liked every single guy that was on that, So there,
you know, we're not. I don't keep in touch with
them now, but I don't keep in touch with a
lot of people in my life now. For that period
in my life, I felt fortunate to have known all
of you guys, And um, it wasn't the kind of
(41:57):
show that was super dramatic, and there was not in
hiding between us. Like I told people initially, half the
time guys would were like, oh crap, I got a
date with Tris to like keep my beer like cold,
I'll be bad. Like there wasn't like amos like more
fun to be at the house sometimes than it was
to be outside of the house. So much fun. We
(42:18):
had a good time. We were we were fortunate to
have that experience, and I feel like I it was
especially especially fortunate to have it in the way that
it did for me. But but the path along the
way was certainly enjoyable, and that was in large part
because of you. So thank you for that, buddy. I
means a lot to me. I I always say that
I was always like I felt like Ryan and I
were like the perfect man together. Like he was, you know,
(42:43):
just a stud, super sweet and kind, and I'm nice enough,
but you know, he's like he's sensitive and he's caring,
but he's also really funny and when you get to
know him, it's such a great time, you know, you know,
like and then I'm the one that just sort of
breaks the ice everywhere I go, and then you know,
you know, But it was one of those things where
I felt like, um, I agree with you. I mean,
I've often said it that I think interesting. I think,
(43:06):
you know, it does start at the top, and I
think that from that perspective, it really didn't start with you.
We weren't There wasn't a bunch of drama with us.
We were genuinely friends. Like I remember when I came
off the show, and I remember I didn't know who won,
and um, who was the choice? I should say, it's
not gently a winner. I suppose you know, I know
how that works. But I I said the wrong word there.
(43:26):
But I mean, I I was sitting I'm never forgetting
saying if she doesn't choose Brian, I will lose my
mind and everyone'll be like, A mean, I'm like, I
go I was choosing Ryan. I was like, Okay, how
do I keep Brian in my life? What do I
gotta do here? I gotta do I have any roses? Like,
how the hell do I do this? You know, because
it was like we'd be in our little bonk beds,
which were you know, like the single twin beds in
(43:47):
this big room, and it was like, you know, we
just all bonded and it was never i mean agreed,
like it was never one of those things where I'd
run into someone years later and be like, oh, there's
that guy. It was I was like, hey, you know,
I'm so we didn't have any of that stuff. You know,
it was so good. But I do think that starts
with you, Trista, because you sort you had to set
the pace for that and because of your experience, you know,
(44:11):
you made it so that it was drama free for us,
because you knew how that went right. I mean, it
was a little bit of Yeah, I don't know if
I had much to deal with it. I think you
guys were just awesome. It was just such a good
group of guys. And and at that point in time,
because it was so I knew, uh you know so
(44:32):
o g um, people weren't as into and maybe the
producers weren't as into kind of inciting the drama and like,
you know, getting people to to uh focus on in
fighting when it was just so I kind of wish
for that again. I wish there was just this great
(44:54):
group of guys or girls that just have such a
great time together. And and although I do kind of
like the drama watching, but at the same time, I
I loved my guys. I love you. Yeah, yeah, you
didn't have some great ones. I mean there was, I mean,
you know, to a number. I mean I keep in
(45:14):
touch with I still keep actually Jennie Blythe and Jack French,
you know, and of course the two of you, which
is nice and um, you know, and that's why I
feel like, you know, when I look at the season,
I mean I always kind of come back to that.
And then I told the story recently on the air, Rhine.
I'm not sure if you got to hear about it,
but I ran into the guy, the first guy I
met in the mansion after Green trist I walk inside
(45:37):
and there's a guy standing there and he was just
this great looking guy and he's just standing there and
he was just very like perfect posture and he's like,
you know, how are you. I'm like good, you know,
and talking to him and he's like, you know, I
won't go back to the rabbit hole the whole story,
but I remember going, you know, so what do you do?
And he's like, I studied the martial arts. And I'm like, ah,
I too, studied the martial arts. And he's like you do.
I said yes. He's like what discipline? And I said tibo.
(46:00):
And Jamie Blyth of course is with me, and he's like,
are you going to feel like the funniest guy a
live I'm like yeah, zer and guys like that's not
a martial art brother, and I'm like, oh, tell Billy
blank Stath, you know, because that guy is making a fortune.
And I ran into him at the Kentucky Turkey like
two years ago, and I'm like, oh, I know this guy.
And he's like I was with you in trist this season.
(46:21):
I'm like, oh my god, and he that story, so
you know, I mean, even to this day, you know,
we can feel good running into each other because it's
always going to be pretty pleasant. Well, thank you so
much for coming um and walking down memory Lane with
me and Bob and chatting about how you're feeling. Um,
(46:43):
We've been talking about having you on for a really
long time, so thanks you. You've got to have the
original O G S on. You know what I mean,
this is this is the real deal. This makes me
so happy. And Ryan, I mean you, I love and
respect you man, and I just I'm so happy that
you would come on and share, you know, share a
lot of what you've been going on through too. I
think I think it is gonna help a lot of
people because whether it's you know, whether it is line disease,
(47:05):
or whether it's something else that they're dealing with. Like
you said, you have an open mind and be willing
to try some different things and not just go down
the conventional path of over medicating yourself. Not that so
you know, I'm sure some people can do that too.
But I think that's a pretty uh wise wise bit
of information to dispense today. So thanks for doing that
for us. Yeah, No, this was fun. It was fun.
It's kind of fun to think back on those those
(47:26):
days so long ago with the especially Jamie. I just
remember like dog food, stuff, anxiety attacks and all sorts
of stuff, and it's just kind of fun to read it.
I don't know if it's the same with you, but
it feels like a totally different time or I feel
like a lifetime ago, so to think about it, it's
kind of fun. So thanks for having me on and
(47:46):
allowing me to to partake in some of that and
to share my story. And uh, you know where to
find me if you if you ever want to talk again.
By the way, I'm downstairs. Okay, your trial separation there
in the in the downstairs level. I love that good.
(48:11):
I know you hit gold on the show. You know
that you genuinely sure did. I am a lucky girl
that you really are. I said, also, you know that
if Ryan wasn't there, I don't know that anyone else
would have worked, just because I just feel like he
(48:32):
was meant to be my person. So I did too.
I honestly thought that I thought that while I was
still on the show, which is kind of crazy. I
remember being somewhere and thinking to myself, like, I don't
feel like I'm ready for this, you know, and we weren't.
We weren't like we didn't even never have an individual take,
(48:52):
you know what I mean. We were always on great
case together. But I remember thinking to myself, like, if
I'm being honest, because I you know, I cared about
you and I like you so much so quickly, and
I was like, if I'm being honest about this, who's
the right person for her here? You know? And and
I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, it's gotta be riot,
It's gotta be like there's you know. And back then,
as you recall, the show was always edited to make
(49:13):
the second or third uh Evisually I was left in
the mix that person looked like hands down and they
had to be the person. And this is no not Charlie,
because I loved Charlie too, but it was like, you know,
there was it was always gonna be that was the
person of the crowd thought, oh, this is it. And
then then the person who would come in in the
end and be the one that got the proposal or
was the one that actually proposed and it was the
(49:35):
proposal was accepted. They were the ones that, you know,
I feel a lot of footage was probably left to
the cutting room floor of them, because they really were
kind of stacking the deck so that people would be surprised.
And um, and I mean that's that's not a secret.
That was something that I think, you know, was pretty
out after like the first five or six seasons and
that's when they started switching up the formats of the
show and stuff. But I just remember that day that
(49:55):
I remember thinking to myself, like, it's time. It's time
for me to get out of the way here because
I I don't want to be a distraction and and
um and you know, and you obviously were thinking the
same thing as me, because that's when you let me go.
But it was like one of those things. I was
kind of like, I remember thinking how much I wanted
you to meet my family and everything, but also how
I was like, I'm not ready if we were to
(50:16):
go to the next level, would I be able to
pull the trigger and do the right thing? And I
I'm not ready. But if I look at this room
of guys, who is ready? Who is and who's ready
for this person? Specifically? That was Ryan? That was Ryan
all day long. It I can say, honestly, you know,
remembering back then, he wouldn't have been the way that
he was with you, which is anybody you know that
(50:37):
wasn't That wasn't Ryan Sutter style, you know what I mean.
He was that way with you because you were you
and that was what he wanted, and it was I mean,
it was genuine from the jump. And I remember thinking myself, like, God,
that's that's the one, you know. So it's always nice
to to be associated with with that era of this show.
And you were there. We were there the golden years.
(51:00):
As we say, yeah, yeah, I can say it too.
We are, I guess in our golden era as fifty
year old or fifty plus year old whatever we are.
Plus he's just a baby's little babe. I love you.
I hope you feel better. I know you're not feeling
(51:22):
great today, but I hope you are still reveling in
the good feelings from your birthday bash. Yes, it was
so fun. Thank you, Thank you for the chat. I'm
glad we got to chat again today, And as always,
tune in to the next almost famous O. G.
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