September 30, 2025 • 47 mins
Bachelor Nation fell in love with Desiree when she was on Sean Lowe's season, and again when she became The Bachelorette! Like Trista, these two ladies are still married to the men they met on the show!
The two Bachelorettes discuss the chaos of motherhood, Desiree's latest book, and why social media breaks are essential.
Trista wants to know...does Desiree have any advice for new Bachelorette Taylor Frankie Paul???
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with on our radio.
Welcome back, everybody, It's the almost famous og podcast. It's
Trista back with you today. I'm so so excited because
today I get to deep dive with someone you all
know and love me too. She's a friend of mine
(00:22):
from Gosh. I guess it's probably eleven years ago, since
she's well, maybe ten, because she's been married for almost
eleven years. Crazy. We first met her on season seventeen
of The Bachelor with Sean Lowe, and then again when
she was the star of the Bachelorette for season nine.
Please welcome Desire Siegfried. All right, beautiful, how are you?
(00:47):
How is life? How are the babies.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I've been so busy, I mean, having the new little guys,
like really, I mean has changed our world in the
best way. But I'm just I literally I can't believe,
like a year has already almost gone by, Like I
don't know, I just can't even.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I just can't, like for real, he's almost a year old. Yeah,
he's almost a year old already. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean, I you know, we considered having more, but
because of the way my body handled pregnancies, I was like, yeah, no,
we're done, and we got a boy and a girl,
so we're good. So how is it? Like I always
heard that having a third makes things exponentially harder. How
are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I mean it's just he's just so busy, Like
I think he's just trying to keep up with his brothers.
So it's like, I just I just have never known
a busy like he is, like so busy, Like he
has the biggest fomo I have ever seen in anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Except maybe his dad Chris is got fomo. So yeah,
he's got it. It's super cute. Yeah, it's super cute.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean it is challenging because I'm homeschooling too, so
I'm I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
To just navigate, like I'm navigating.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The best I can, you know, and he's he's actually
a really great baby, so he makes it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He makes it fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Good. And the boys are just they just love on him,
or the big wrestlers or what are they just.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean they wrestle each other. But yeah, oh it's
so cute. It's so cute. I don't think like anyone
can prepare you for just like watching you're older, because
we have the age gap.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know, we have six years from Xander to Noah.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And it's really fun to see how.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The older boys, like, you know, he wakes up from
his nap and everyone goes rushing in. Like I'm like,
this boy is gonna like not know what it's like
to not have people, you know, loving on him at
all times.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, that's and that's a really good problem to have.
I love that. I love that they are just and
because they're home and homeschooling, like they truly are there
all the time. How is the homeschooling going. Are you
enjoying it?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean to be completely honest, I like in the beginning,
I was like, absolutely not, I will never homeschool, Like, oh,
I could never because I wasn't a stay at home
mom either, and so I was working on a business
and so I think in your mind when you're doing
those things, it's like, oh my gosh, I could never.
But in hindsight, I realize it's only we just say
(03:34):
that because we don't know what we don't know. And so, yeah,
homeschooling has been the biggest blessing I have ever. Yeah,
like the blessing I didn't know I needed. So I
recommend it to everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I love that. I love that. Yeah, I'm definitely one
of those people who was like I will never and
I didn't ever.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely yeah, there's definitely like you know,
there's definitely some challenges that you work through it and
then it's just so it's so great. Like I think
my favorite part is just being able to see how
my boys like work and operate and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
The way they think.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I don't know, I think that's been the greatest
joy of just being able to see like what motivates them,
what they're interested in, and I can be a part
of that, you know, not just secondary, but really be
involved and help them grow and you know, thrive and
whatever they're interested in.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh of course, my gosh, that is a huge blessing.
Just more time, I mean, as I think, you know,
I have a senior and a junior and just yeah,
it's like thinking about my kids leaving, I oh, I
wish for those days back again. So I get it, like,
(04:56):
spend as much time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I know, think that they'll stay they'll stay in it
near you do you think that they'll stay in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Actually, Max has twenty schools on his list right now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That is just because the only thing he really said
to me when I asked where he wants to go
to start putting schools on his list was he wanted
to go somewhere warm.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So that's not a lot of.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Inside. So Ryan and I have just added schools onto
his list that we think that he would vibe and
would be good for him. And we're going to go
out to California and go see some schools for fall break.
So that should be fun. But yeah, it is a
crazy journey. Does buckle up your seatbelt because holy cow.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
No, no, no, I have friends who have like, you know,
the like eleven twelve, like getting into like puberty, and
I'm just oh, I am, I just dons.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean we are, especially with all boys.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
All boys.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I feel like they're already I feel like they're.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Already stinky, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I Like, I like, how in the world can a
six year old have like, you know, but because they're playing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Sports and oh, in their shoes like they're stinky.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh no, oh my gosh. Okay, So we are on
the OG podcast, so we do have to take it
back all the way to the beginning. So can you
tell all of our listeners how you got started, Like,
did you nominate yourself or did someone else nominate you?
(06:41):
For Sean season? Did you know who Sean was? All
the things?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Sure, Yeah, let's go back into memory lane.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's like sometimes I'm like I forget, you know, I'm like,
I've life is just happens, and I'm like, oh, yeah
we met on a show. Yeah, so yeah, I was.
I was just fresh out of her well. I was
like a year out of her relationship that I was like,
you know, and so I just was like open to anything,
(07:11):
and I felt ready. I felt way more ready than
I had. You know, I was only twenty six, but
I still felt so ready. It's so funny as you
get older, you're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You think you're just at all?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah six, But no, I was just in a time
of life that where I was like I just need something.
I was super broke in LA, and I was like
I don't know what I'm doing. I didn't have any
family to help support like in LA, and honestly, I
felt lost because I wanted to do design, but I like,
(07:50):
I didn't have the money to do any of that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So anyways, I was just ready.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It was like the time of life where I was
just ready and I had only watched Your Way, and
I had only watched like a little.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Bit of another episode. Like so I obviously knew of.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The Bachelor Bachelorette, but I obviously I did not know
like the depth of it. So I walked in one
day in my roommate was watching the show and I
was like.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Huh, you know, I'm like that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Looks I mean, this is what's going in my head.
I literally was like that looks easy.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Because because I had always had guy friends and I
was always like, you know, I was always a guys
girl where I could like hang out. I always had like,
you know, friends that were brothers, you know, and I'm
like hanging out with guys and like traveling the world
like great.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And maybe there's one I like awesome. I don't know.
I was very naive, but.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So I I think I just sat on it for
a while and I was like, there's no way, like
this is weird, and then I just apply online. I
think there's like a question of like why do you
want to date online? And I mean, why do you
want to date you know, on a show. Yeah, and
I just said something kind of like witty or like
kind of silly, and then they just called it was
(09:14):
perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Honestly, it was all god. It was all god like.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It was perfect timing because I didn't know when they
started doing casting and I didn't know when the show started.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I didn't know any of.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That, and it was just perfect timing because like they
called me back the like the next day, I did
an interview, and I still was so like, yeah, that's
not happening, like down to like going to casting, like
the casting weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know, there's like one hundred people.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, And I was literally like, yeah, this isn't really.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Going to happen. And even to a point of when they.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Gave me the contract, I was just like I read
like the clause or whatever or like something where it's
like you could be back up like where you're not
actually going on.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm like, yeah, that's probably that's probably it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Like I was working NonStop, I didn't have time to
think about going on a show, and.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So yeah, it was really odd. But I it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Was all just so surreal because I'm like, I'm very
introverted and I'm very reserved and so my friends were
just like, what, like, you're going on to writing.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, but you know what, I think that's I think
that was in my benefit because I didn't need to
go on the show, and so I was super relaxed.
I was myself, and I honestly think that really helped,
not knowing a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
About the show, Yeah, totally, to just I can see that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, to just be like, yeah, this is me and
if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't,
and yeah, I just really left it. I honestly left
it to my faith. I was like, you know, God,
if this is a door that's gonna open, like great,
I will trust you in it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And if it doesn't, like I'm totally fine.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we have similar stories in that. Obviously,
you know the show had been going on before you
went on, and you saw my wedding. But I went
into it too, not having any clue, Like I didn't
know what I was doing because it was brand new.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You were the first. Yeah, because I was.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Just relaxed and like, if I want to you know,
I want to travel, I want to meet somebody maybe
and maybe well, like it's very all the things that
you're saying, are like you could just copy paste into
my story.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I feel like I love that. I have never actually
never really thought about that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, you didn't have any like blueprint to follow ool,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It was just, you know, I wanted to just go
for fun and do something new and travel and meet
people and whatever. Yeah. I love it. I love that. Okay,
do you remember getting out of the limo kind of please?
You have three children, so, mommy brain is a real struggle.
I mean I have two.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean I do briefly, like I mean, I mean
I was the last out of the limo.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
In my look Okay, well that okay, So for people
who watch the show, you know that the last out
of the limo is usually somebody that they think, this
is the girl who's gonna stay for a long time.
Maybe yeah, I think so the last out of the
limo for sure, first out of the limo, last out
of the limo. Yeah, Ryan was the last out of
(12:36):
the first limo. Yeah, so maybe there's something to that too.
I don't know, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I to go back. I don't even know. When I
saw Chris, there was so many, it's so overwhelming. I
was just like, oh my gosh, this is.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So much, especially for somebody who is introverted, Like oh yeah,
like the overwhelm of the cameras in the and all
the things.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, it wasn't even I didn't actually realize I was
so introverted until the show.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, because I mean since, like you know, since like
high school, I was just busy working and I was
always around people, and so I never really thought I
was introverted.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I just didn't know. But the show really helped.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Being on the show, being on the lead part, I realized, like, wow,
like I get overwhelmed super easy when there's just too
much going on, and like I can't like think for myself.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I feel like it's interesting. They just came out with
a new personality type. You know, it's introvert and extrovert
and there's something in the middle. I can't remember what
they called it. And I was like, you know what,
I feel that way too, because I feel like both,
you know, the two of us, whenever we're together in
like a social environment, we're very social people. But I
(13:53):
definitely can like get overwhelmed and need like just to
sit down and be in quiet or watch a show
by myself or what do my laundry? Whatever? So I
feel like there's there's something to that where you're you're
a great extrovert, but you're also a great introvert, like
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I mean I feel like it's more of like
I can.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Turn it on when I need to, Yeah, but like
deep down, like like after events like I am burnt out,
and I think what helped me too.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I forget when who it was.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It was like a book, but it helped me understand
is like you're either introverted or extroverted depending on how
you recharge. And I think that's so important because I
feel like when people think introverted, they're like, oh, so
you're just like little quiet in the corner. It's not
that it's that I can be social and I can.
I can, you know, turn it on, but like by
(14:48):
the end of the night, I am waxed. I need
to go to bed, and then I probably need like
a whole twenty four hours till I can feel like,
oh okay, like I feel good now.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know, yeah, and then flash forward to God giving
you three boys.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, you guys, I know, especially with this baby
now because like you know, like, okay, I mean my
nervous system is wrecked all day.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Long because I'm like, sure, I'm like, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I have one who loves I have one who just
loves to talk and rap and sing, and and then
the other one's tear being tapping and drumming, and and
then we have the baby, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
I'm like, I'm like, I need to go hide.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You need one of those she sheds? Do you have
one on your property?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I so I.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Need a yes, yes, a little escape.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yes, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, So back to Sean season. Were you and Catherine close?
Like you you went and tell what when did he
send you home?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Fourth?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
After hometowns, after my big brother, you know, my brother,
and yes, your brother.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh my gosh, I totally remember. The whole world was like,
why are you being like this?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I know?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Do you still talk to him? I mean, are you
guys close? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I mean I wouldn't say we were ever like close,
but yeah we we talk now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's good, okay, good, Okay. So you were four.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I was four, So I feel like what happened is
whoever you were in rooms with you kind of gravitated to.
So I actually didn't even get to talk to Catherine
until like week eight.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, like, oh my gosh, yeah, we didn't even like.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Talk because there were there was like so many groups,
little cliques and.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Who was your person, who was your roommate, the other introverts.
Of course, No, I gravitated to Jackie.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She was the redhead, super.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Cute, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah Jackie.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And then I actually became really close to Daniella because
she's just like a riot, She's just.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Hilarious, yes, totally, and so she was friends with Catherine and.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Lindsay, and so that's how I started to you know,
talk to them. But when I was just too like
I did not want to deal with any drama or anything.
So I like the first week, I literally when I
saw big groups of girls, you know, crowding around, I
didn't go near it because I was like, I don't
(17:41):
I don't want to get in the gossip and the
like all the stuff. And I'm just a little bit
especially back then, I was a lot more reserved, a
lot more reserved, and so you know, I would talk
if people ask me a question, but I wasn't the
one to just start a conversation like be out there.
And so I, to be honest, I would love to
(18:02):
ask the ladies that were on my show, but I
feel like so many of them like watch the show
back and was like what like because they probably didn't
even really they didn't really know me, you know, from
just the house.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But that's fine, that's the beauty.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Of it's all good. Yeah, it is what it is. Okay,
So after you were eliminated, how soon after did they
start talking to you about the bachelorette? And do you
know if they were talking to anyone else or just you?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't know who they were talking to.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't have a clue. I wasn't hiding because back then,
you know, they were.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like, right, they hid you. That was honestly, that was
actually like I just I mean I okay.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
So I got eliminated and there was still what you know,
two more weeks or so yep, and so I had
to stay with three Yeah it felt like it felt
like an eternity.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
But I had to stay with a handler.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And we went from like Airbnb to Airbnb, and and
I was not in the know.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like every morning I'm like can I go home?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Like can I please go home like I mean also
at this point, like I'm broke, like I need to
go work, like yeah, so like I felt like this,
like oh my gosh, like I don't know how much
longer I'm going to be here. I also need to
pay my bills and and.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I didn't know. So uh. It was around what the
third airbnb.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That they called me to ask and start talking about
if I ever wanted to.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Be the Bachelorette.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And was it a call from one of the producers
or Mike or or Flice or what.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I think it was from Bennett. So it was
from one of the producers, Yeah, just to like see
what just to like see interesting where I was.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And at that point, I don't know, I think I
I don't know. I was cautious, I think at that
point because like I was kind of like, you know
it really you know, you really do get caught up.
I wouldn't say I was like I never got to
the love part with Sean. And so it's all worked
out so the way it was supposed to. But still
(20:25):
it's a lot of time to invest in not knowing
what will come, you know, Yeah, as I.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Experienced, right, uh huh, it's a lot of time and
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Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, so you get back to life. You get asked
to do bachelorette. How are you feeling about doing bachelorette
back then? Were you like, Eh, this isn't going to
work out. I'm just going to do it just because
it's like the continuation or were you feeling like you
had a good chance Because for me, it was like
(21:50):
they knew me, they knew like what I was looking for.
And I've always said, like they're going to find a
guy much easier than just little old me living in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know, yeah, Oh, I mean that's that's a good No.
I wasn't there. No, I was like, you were no.
I mean I lived in LA.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I lived in like first I lived in like Orange County,
and I lived in LA And then I was like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
There wasn't like not to There wasn't a problem of
meeting like lots of people, right, And so I didn't
I don't know. I didn't feel again, and I put
it in God's hands.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
But I don't know. I was skeptical, I think because
you you see how like you know, you have to
be super vulnerable and.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I don't know if I was like, yes, I'm doing
it at first, But the more that I thought about it,
I was really open to the idea because I'm like, what,
how awesome, Like maybe my husband is in this batch,
you know, like maybe they will.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Find the right guy.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And you know, I didn't have roots anywhere, so I
was open to moving anywhere as long as there was
like water in the West coast.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I was open to it, and so once I decided,
I was, you know, I was all in. But I
also didn't want to put too much pressure on meeting
my husband in that group, and so I never would say, like,
my husband's in the group, not until yeah, like you know,
it's the first night. I'm like, I don't know if
(23:34):
you're my husband, right?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, that's so funny. Yeah, but you say it like that,
I love it. So I want to know, was when
you saw Chris was it like, ah, I love it
for sight kind of situation or when did you really
(23:59):
think he could be my one?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah? He had the best limo entrant and trance.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
What was it? Remind me? I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
He just got to show his personality. He was super
nervous though, so he was a little shaky. But he
got down on one knee and then said like and
then he said, do you mind?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What did you say?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Do you mind if I'd tie my shoe or something?
And then he said, I just wanted to get off
on the right foot.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like but it was so funny, it's so cute.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
It's so his like quirky personality, and so it was
good because it made me laugh, and you know, I
was super awkward that like standing there just like with
guys coming, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Don't know what to say. Do I say? You know
what I mean? I was super awkward a lot of times.
But yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Definitely interesting to look back because I'm like, wow, like
not my personality.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
To like why did they choose me? But but.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Of course they we know why they chose you. I
mean for all of the reasons. But I mean, I
think it's so funny thinking about it because it really
isn't your like cup of tea, no.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
No, but you know, that's what really helped us stay
together and like not focused on what would come next,
but actually just going going to to like our back
to our life and really growing something that wasn't based
off what we can do next.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And I think that helped.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean that's how it was for me and
Ryan for sure. I feel like that's one of the secrets.
And it's really interesting because you and I and our
hobbies and I think Jojo and Jordan were kind of
the same in that they disappeared and you know, I
feel like they disappeared and went back to their life
(25:55):
and like startup businesses and whatever. I wonder because the
three of us, I don't know if there's any other
bachelorettes who are still married. Obviously Ashley and Rachel got
married and then got divorced, so I don't know if
we're including them. But like, that's really interesting because I
feel like there's something to that, like not focusing on,
(26:18):
you know, the things that are going on in the
whirlwind and really just focusing on your relationship.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I also think what I've noticed too is when both
parties are interested in fame or which is not a
bad thing to want from it, but it's but I mean,
I do see that when both.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Are pursuing that, then you're in competition with each other,
you know.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And it's like because you know, if one's gonna get
mad that the other is getting more attention, And I
don't know, Yep, you would hope.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, you're right, you were right. But but the fact
of the matter is that we come off of the
show and we haven't known each other for that long,
so we don't have like that really strong foundation of
you know, a friendship or years of knowing each other.
So yeah, I feel like you really got to buckle
down and get to know each other. Oh yeah, okay,
(27:17):
so have you heard because well, I guess first of all,
I should talk about the fact that you just did
like a major social media cleanse, So tell us about
that you were you were off, like are you feeling lighter?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
And yeah, so I'm not a huge like browser or anything,
but it's still like there's still so much poll, right,
like even just having it on your phone and just
having and if you are posting, then there's even more
poll because you're like checking.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And no.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I just felt led for the summer to take off
social media, and so I was only gonna do two
months and then it turned into four months because I
got so good at it, and then I.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Don't know, yeah, I mean it felt great. Honestly, it
was amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Like Chris would be like, you know, stuff happened in
the world, and you know, I'd.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Be so like what you know, and just live in.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
My life, and I'm just gonna live in my life.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I loved it because.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I yeah, I loved it because you know, I I
am also very empathetic, so like even reading people's like
hard stories, like I would find myself thinking about that
the next day, or like you're and I'm like, why
am I carrying everybody's like stuff when I need to
be focusing on my family, my marriage, myself.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And I don't know. It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I honestly recommend it to anybody because it just created
a new intention and you can have both.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And I think that's the key.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You don't have to break helps get you started, but
you can have a healthy relationship with social media. You know,
you just can't let it boss you around and you know,
control your impulses and control your thoughts and control everything.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Reach ah.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Man, I just wish that I could do it, I know,
because you know, it is my job and so or
one of my jobs, and so I yeah, it's so hard.
It's so hard because I get caught up in the
in the scroll. And then also you know, with my
(29:30):
kid being a senior, like I literally just finished this,
like I got nominated to post ten pictures for ten
days or whatever, you know, a senior, and so it
just got me like on my phone all the time
because I'm going down the rabbit hole of looking for
pictures and video and you know all the things. And
with him like graduating soon, like we're going to have
(29:51):
to like pull up pictures and take pictures all the things. Right, So, yes,
I have found myself glued to my phone. I really
need to disconnect.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, the biggest tip that I like, that helped for
me because we we've been doing it for years, so
it's a habit. Like you literally pick up your phone
and your son goes like right there and you're like,
I didn't even mean to so for me because I am,
my photos are right next to Instagram, and so when
I felt that impulse, I would go to my photos
(30:23):
and look at albums from the boys when they were little,
and oh my gosh, it created like this new gratitude
for my life in the present because I would look
back and just be so moved, you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Know, by like when they were babies, or even just
Chris and I and we look like babies.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm like, oh my gosh, Like it was so worth it,
right because I spent say, like you're like, I spent
thirty minutes scrolling my family, you know, getting filled with
like newfound gratitude for my life or I could you know,
you know, scroll Instagram and is that what does that do.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
For my brain?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Oh? I don't even want to think about it. I
know Okay, let's get onto a new topic. So okay,
so since you had the social media like break cleanse whatever,
we were calling it, genius idea, Uh, you might not
know about the next bachelorette. Do you know who the
next bachelorette is?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I did hear?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
What's her name?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Taylor Taylor, Taylor, Frankie, Paul frank.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I was gonna say Taylor Paul Frankie, Taylor, Taylor, Frankie Paul.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeap. She is from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Have you do you know who she is? Have you
watched the show before?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I know who she is and the gist I guess of.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
What the whole show was about, and like the sex scandal,
and I think she got another divorce, was it?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I think I have the biography.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Down, got it? So what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't know. I mean, I can see why they need.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
They want someone to revive the show and to create
that buzz.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So I think that's great. I think that's wonderful. I
think she will bring that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I don't know her personally, Like I don't watch the show,
so I don't actually know what kind.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Of drama ensues.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
But I will say we did have a friend that
was being pursued to be the Bachelor because they were
also going to revive The Bachelor, and so they were
eyeing people who might have you know, they.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Were going to do a new Bachelor, and.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You know, then they were like they called them back, like, oh, like,
we're not going to pursue that because did you see
who we have for bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
And he's like yeah, and then they're like, would you
like to be on?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And you know, I think what it comes down to
is if there's wife material there, yep, because like our
friends like, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But you know that's where I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
What kind of pool of guys we're going to see
and yell, serious they're going to be because of course
they don't want a dater of course.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, she's gorgeous, Yeah, and she's funny, and you know
she's if you are drawn to fame at all, she's
famous and you know all of these things. So yeah,
I'm very interested. Ben and I for almost Famous did
a podcast when when it was announced, and I have
the very same like same sentiments like I'm just interested
(33:38):
to see I think it was a good idea to
pull someone from another show who already has a fan base,
who's not from The Bachelor a Bachelorette. But I am
really interested to see who the guys are going to
be and and what the support is going to be
because a lot of people I feel like, we're like, no,
(34:00):
I'm not going to watch because you know, she's had
she has a history, Like I guess she was accused
of domestic violence. I think she was in jail, and yeah,
she has She's had a couple, she's had. I think
she has three kids, maybe with maybe two different I
(34:21):
don't know her bio as well as I probably should,
but regardless, I'm like, she's one of us. Okay, one divorce.
She's had one divorce, and yeah, I don't know her,
but I feel like everyone deserves love and forgiveness, and
so if she is serious about it and it's going
(34:46):
to be entertaining, then why not do it? Like I'm
I'm going to welcome her with open arms to our chick.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I think it's going to be extremely entertaining.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And I think that's why it is a good choice,
because if that's you know, it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
She's unapologetic to who she is, Like she's like, listen,
this is me and this is who I'm going to be.
And I have a lot of respect for that. Like
I agree, like me or not, this is who I am.
So whatever.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. I think that's great. Yeah,
I'll be interested to see the guys.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I know me too. Okay, So what would you give
her in terms of advice from you know, me and you?
It's funny because I get this question and I'm like,
(35:39):
our world has changed so much and I don't even
know if the advice that I would give is applicable
because it was so long ago. I mean twenty almost
by almost twenty five years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's incredible. So you guys are awesome. You guys are goals.
That's a goal. I love it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Thank you so cute every day. But so I feel
like the advice that I would give is maybe a
little irrelevant. But what would you say something that might
help her in her journey?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah? It is, It is true.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I mean they have to navigate a like we I
did navigate social media when it was like brand new,
and people were like, I'm so excited to just tell
you everything that they thought about you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But I feel like, you know, they grew That sounds
so crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
They grew up in this world social media.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Oh my god, how old is that?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I know?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But oh I know right well, you look amazing by
the way, Oh you're sissy, You look amazing. You have
not changed a bit.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, you know, I honestly it's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It's so hard to say, because I would say, you know,
put your like, put your relationship first.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Like, But for saying like advice for the show, because.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
No advice for her like in her journey on Bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, I think she's got it because she's been on
reality TV. I don't think she needs advice on being
on the show. I think she's gonna kill it and
be awesome to watch. In terms of relationship though, yeah,
I think that if she's really.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Serious about the guy, to truly focus on that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, agreed, Yeah, great advice. Do you talk to any
of the guys from your season obviously besides your husband?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, we used to stay in touch with quite a few,
but you know, life everyone started having kids and you know,
life happened. But yeah, we I mean we stayed Chris
stayed in touch with like the four that he kind
of hung out with.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
But yeah, now we no, not really.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
No, not unless people came up to Seattle when we
were in Seattle, then maybe we would see them.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Okay, And Chris never watched the show? Is that still true?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
He was the show, He just didn't he watched the show.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Oh I thought he never watched it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
No, he watched it. Yeah, he watched the show. I
would watch ahead of.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Time, and sometimes I'd be like I would just warn him,
you know, like, oh, got it, maybe you shouldn't watch
this episode or like watch it knowing him He watched
it regardless, but I would just say, like, you know,
this might be one you could sit out.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Maybe that's what I'm getting wrong is maybe there was
an episode that he didn't watch.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Probably yeadly.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, So will you or have you shown the boys
any of the show And do they understand that that's
where you met?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
No, so not yet. And so this is it's funny
because this is like.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
We're on the cusp of that where Yeah, I actually
just told Chris like the other week, like I think
it's time, like we really need to, you know, sit
down with them and talk to them, because I mean
but you know what, because we live in a world
of social media and podcast and Chris's work is very
like sales, so he puts himself out there.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't think they understand that.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
They know that people might come up to us, but
you know, mom has a podcast or had a podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
And dad does this, so it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Ring a bell that like, oh, it might be something bigger,
so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I don't know, We're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
To kind of see I might be in the works.
Do they know, like I assume that when you're traveling,
because I feel like when we're traveling that way, you
get asked the most to have pictures taken. Do they
have they started to sense like, well, that's weird. Why
would that person who we've never met before or want
a picture of my mom and dad?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I know. I think my my oldest has always been
so inquisitive and like observing, so he always would just
be like looking at them. But again I don't think
he I think because of their world of YouTube and
their world of podcasts, like I think they I just
don't think anything's.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Weird totally, and they don't need to right now. That's
totally fine. I just didn't know if they were kind
of clued into it yet or have asked you. No,
they why is that person taking a picture?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Quite honestly, I'm really surprised that they haven't heard from
someone else.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
But you know, well, that's what I was wondering, because
I feel like they're getting old enough to have friends
who are like, hey, my mom was just saying this,
or we saw you on my computer or whatever, you
know whatever, Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, I really it's coming.
I think it's coming.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I think we're gonna sit down with them soon so
that they know so it's not like an awkward thing.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But yeah, wait, you're famous. People know who you are.
And I hate using the word famous, but yeah, but
people know who you are. Like that's great.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I know I'm at the because it's been thirteen years now,
so yeah, I'm at the place.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Of like did we go to school together? How do
I know you? I know you from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
That is always my go to.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I would love to take a poll on like when
someone says that, do they do they prefer if I
just tell them like, oh, well did you watch the Bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Or would they prefer I.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Didn't say anything and then it's just as it's the
same awkwardness, Like I don't know, maybe I guess could
do a plan.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Now, because I do kind of half and half. Like
there are times when I'm like, I'm just going to
say it because it seems like they're going to be
annoyed if they can't figure it out, and then I'm
like other times I'm like, oh, really I look familiar. Well, okay, great,
yeah I must look like one of your friends or something.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I'll be like I have a very familiar face exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I have said that so often. Yes, so true, I
did have someone since you were off of social media,
maybe wouldn't have seen this and not that like with
the algorithm rory them and everything. We've been following each
other for hours, but I still don't see everyone's stuff.
But I was talking about how I was playing pickupball
the other day and a ball came onto my court
(42:18):
with this lady came over to get her ball and
she was like, oh my gosh, you're the bachelorette. And
I was like, oh hi, how are you, and she goes,
I am so old. I watched your show and I
was like, wait a second.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
You're like you're not okay.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Literally, I was like, whoa, Okay. I mean, I know
you're not intending to insult me, but or call me old.
That's not the intention. She was super sweet, but I
was kind of like, well, like, I don't want to
be called old. It's the same thing. I'm sure you've
gotten this before where people are like, oh, you look
(43:03):
so much better than you did on television or whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
To say that I was I was just gonna say that,
I was gonna say in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
In the beginning, right off the show, they'd be like, oh,
you're I.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Don't I don't know if they said so much prettier
than like or but or they said even prettier.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
But I still was like, well.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's rude because I'm the same person whether I'm on
I'm on television or in real life. Like, I'm the
same person. So you're literally criticizing me, yeah, while giving
me a compliment at the same time.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
That's so funny, I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean, people have great intentions, and I feel like
I if I was meeting someone that I not looked
up to is not the right word, but that I
watched in my living room and felt like I knew them,
then I would definitely feel flustered. So I don't hold
it against them, but I am like, yeah, it makes
me think more about what I say to people.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Right, I agree with that Ross Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, okay, So what are you going to do for
Noah's birthday? Any plans?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
No plans.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I wanted to just keep a small family a smash cake,
and then the boys are like, we need balloons and
friends over and can we have like a bounce house?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And like, oh my gosh, that's like that's your birthday.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's a birthday, yes, right, remember it? He's one. Yeah,
that's cute. Okay, last thing before I let you go,
please tell us about your book.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, well I wrote I wrote too.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
So the first one was okay, tell us about both
on twenty two I don't even know when, and that
was Road to Roses And so that's more of a
biography of like how I got in the show my
feelings towards that. Actually I feel like it like walks
through my whole entire dating history, which is quite interesting,
I guess. But it's funny because that was what four
(45:04):
years ago I wrote it, and I'm like, so much
has already changed in like what you would you know,
put out there, But yeah, it's my journey to motherhood
and so that's much more personal about me. And then
what I wrote Faith Unlocked, which is to help people
walk through their faith journey. Yeah, whether they're just getting
(45:26):
started or seasoned believer, just to get closer to amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Does it come with like a workbook?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I have a.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Workbook that you can download on my website to go
with it. So it's actually like, yeah, I love it.
I really love like the inner healing of stuff. So
it's like really healing heart wounds, brokenness, you know, all
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
So that's great.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, thank you, that's exciting. And are you designing it
all anymore? No?
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I laid that down to do homeschool and so it
was perfect timing though I was ready by that point, and.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
So yeah, it's so crazy. Eventually, I think, you know, later.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
In life, I still plan to design or have a
have a little like bridal boutique.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I think I would love that.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh totally. I mean, girl, I with my kids almost gone,
it's like you question what you're gonna do after they're
after they're gone, And that's definitely something that I'm thinking
about so gosh, if you have that in your back
pocket and you've already done it, that'd be perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, so that'll be exciting when that time comes.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
In like twenty years, exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Almost twenty years, it'll go by like that. Don't blink, Okay.
It is always so much fun in catching up and
you see your beautiful face. Give Chris a hug for me,
and hopefully I'll get to see you sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah, hopefully someone will get married or something. Give us
a reason, right, is the reason I'll.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Get together again. That would be so great.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Thank you for coming on the almost famous o G
Podcast
This is the almost famous podcast with on our radio.
Welcome back, everybody, It's the almost famous og podcast. It's
Trista back with you today. I'm so so excited because
today I get to deep dive with someone you all
know and love me too. She's a friend of mine
(00:22):
from Gosh. I guess it's probably eleven years ago, since
she's well, maybe ten, because she's been married for almost
eleven years. Crazy. We first met her on season seventeen
of The Bachelor with Sean Lowe, and then again when
she was the star of the Bachelorette for season nine.
Please welcome Desire Siegfried. All right, beautiful, how are you?
(00:47):
How is life? How are the babies.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I've been so busy, I mean, having the new little guys,
like really, I mean has changed our world in the
best way. But I'm just I literally I can't believe,
like a year has already almost gone by, Like I
don't know, I just can't even.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I just can't, like for real, he's almost a year old. Yeah,
he's almost a year old already. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean, I you know, we considered having more, but
because of the way my body handled pregnancies, I was like, yeah, no,
we're done, and we got a boy and a girl,
so we're good. So how is it? Like I always
heard that having a third makes things exponentially harder. How
are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I mean it's just he's just so busy, Like
I think he's just trying to keep up with his brothers.
So it's like, I just I just have never known
a busy like he is, like so busy, Like he
has the biggest fomo I have ever seen in anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Except maybe his dad Chris is got fomo. So yeah,
he's got it. It's super cute. Yeah, it's super cute.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean it is challenging because I'm homeschooling too, so
I'm I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
To just navigate, like I'm navigating.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The best I can, you know, and he's he's actually
a really great baby, so he makes it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He makes it fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Good. And the boys are just they just love on him,
or the big wrestlers or what are they just.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean they wrestle each other. But yeah, oh it's
so cute. It's so cute. I don't think like anyone
can prepare you for just like watching you're older, because
we have the age gap.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know, we have six years from Xander to Noah.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And it's really fun to see how.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The older boys, like, you know, he wakes up from
his nap and everyone goes rushing in. Like I'm like,
this boy is gonna like not know what it's like
to not have people, you know, loving on him at
all times.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, that's and that's a really good problem to have.
I love that. I love that they are just and
because they're home and homeschooling, like they truly are there
all the time. How is the homeschooling going. Are you
enjoying it?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean to be completely honest, I like in the beginning,
I was like, absolutely not, I will never homeschool, Like, oh,
I could never because I wasn't a stay at home
mom either, and so I was working on a business
and so I think in your mind when you're doing
those things, it's like, oh my gosh, I could never.
But in hindsight, I realize it's only we just say
(03:34):
that because we don't know what we don't know. And so, yeah,
homeschooling has been the biggest blessing I have ever. Yeah,
like the blessing I didn't know I needed. So I
recommend it to everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I love that. I love that. Yeah, I'm definitely one
of those people who was like I will never and
I didn't ever.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely yeah, there's definitely like you know,
there's definitely some challenges that you work through it and
then it's just so it's so great. Like I think
my favorite part is just being able to see how
my boys like work and operate and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
The way they think.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I don't know, I think that's been the greatest
joy of just being able to see like what motivates them,
what they're interested in, and I can be a part
of that, you know, not just secondary, but really be
involved and help them grow and you know, thrive and
whatever they're interested in.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh of course, my gosh, that is a huge blessing.
Just more time, I mean, as I think, you know,
I have a senior and a junior and just yeah,
it's like thinking about my kids leaving, I oh, I
wish for those days back again. So I get it, like,
(04:56):
spend as much time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I know, think that they'll stay they'll stay in it
near you do you think that they'll stay in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Actually, Max has twenty schools on his list right now.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That is just because the only thing he really said
to me when I asked where he wants to go
to start putting schools on his list was he wanted
to go somewhere warm.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So that's not a lot of.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Inside. So Ryan and I have just added schools onto
his list that we think that he would vibe and
would be good for him. And we're going to go
out to California and go see some schools for fall break.
So that should be fun. But yeah, it is a
crazy journey. Does buckle up your seatbelt because holy cow.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
No, no, no, I have friends who have like, you know,
the like eleven twelve, like getting into like puberty, and
I'm just oh, I am, I just dons.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean we are, especially with all boys.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
All boys.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I feel like they're already I feel like they're.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Already stinky, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I Like, I like, how in the world can a
six year old have like, you know, but because they're playing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Sports and oh, in their shoes like they're stinky.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh no, oh my gosh. Okay, So we are on
the OG podcast, so we do have to take it
back all the way to the beginning. So can you
tell all of our listeners how you got started, Like,
did you nominate yourself or did someone else nominate you?
(06:41):
For Sean season? Did you know who Sean was? All
the things?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Sure, Yeah, let's go back into memory lane.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's like sometimes I'm like I forget, you know, I'm like,
I've life is just happens, and I'm like, oh, yeah
we met on a show. Yeah, so yeah, I was.
I was just fresh out of her well. I was
like a year out of her relationship that I was like,
you know, and so I just was like open to anything,
(07:11):
and I felt ready. I felt way more ready than
I had. You know, I was only twenty six, but
I still felt so ready. It's so funny as you
get older, you're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You think you're just at all?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah six, But no, I was just in a time
of life that where I was like I just need something.
I was super broke in LA, and I was like
I don't know what I'm doing. I didn't have any
family to help support like in LA, and honestly, I
felt lost because I wanted to do design, but I like,
(07:50):
I didn't have the money to do any of that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So anyways, I was just ready.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It was like the time of life where I was
just ready and I had only watched Your Way, and
I had only watched like a little.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Bit of another episode. Like so I obviously knew of.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The Bachelor Bachelorette, but I obviously I did not know
like the depth of it. So I walked in one
day in my roommate was watching the show and I
was like.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Huh, you know, I'm like that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Looks I mean, this is what's going in my head.
I literally was like that looks easy.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Because because I had always had guy friends and I
was always like, you know, I was always a guys
girl where I could like hang out. I always had like,
you know, friends that were brothers, you know, and I'm
like hanging out with guys and like traveling the world
like great.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And maybe there's one I like awesome. I don't know.
I was very naive, but.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So I I think I just sat on it for
a while and I was like, there's no way, like
this is weird, and then I just apply online. I
think there's like a question of like why do you
want to date online? And I mean, why do you
want to date you know, on a show. Yeah, and
I just said something kind of like witty or like
kind of silly, and then they just called it was
(09:14):
perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Honestly, it was all god. It was all god like.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It was perfect timing because I didn't know when they
started doing casting and I didn't know when the show started.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I didn't know any of.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That, and it was just perfect timing because like they
called me back the like the next day, I did
an interview, and I still was so like, yeah, that's
not happening, like down to like going to casting, like
the casting weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know, there's like one hundred people.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, And I was literally like, yeah, this isn't really.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Going to happen. And even to a point of when they.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Gave me the contract, I was just like I read
like the clause or whatever or like something where it's
like you could be back up like where you're not
actually going on.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm like, yeah, that's probably that's probably it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Like I was working NonStop, I didn't have time to
think about going on a show, and.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So yeah, it was really odd. But I it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Was all just so surreal because I'm like, I'm very
introverted and I'm very reserved and so my friends were
just like, what, like, you're going on to writing.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, but you know what, I think that's I think
that was in my benefit because I didn't need to
go on the show, and so I was super relaxed.
I was myself, and I honestly think that really helped,
not knowing a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
About the show, Yeah, totally, to just I can see that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, to just be like, yeah, this is me and
if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't,
and yeah, I just really left it. I honestly left
it to my faith. I was like, you know, God,
if this is a door that's gonna open, like great,
I will trust you in it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And if it doesn't, like I'm totally fine.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we have similar stories in that. Obviously,
you know the show had been going on before you
went on, and you saw my wedding. But I went
into it too, not having any clue, Like I didn't
know what I was doing because it was brand new.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You were the first. Yeah, because I was.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Just relaxed and like, if I want to you know,
I want to travel, I want to meet somebody maybe
and maybe well, like it's very all the things that
you're saying, are like you could just copy paste into
my story.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I feel like I love that. I have never actually
never really thought about that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, you didn't have any like blueprint to follow ool,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It was just, you know, I wanted to just go
for fun and do something new and travel and meet
people and whatever. Yeah. I love it. I love that. Okay,
do you remember getting out of the limo kind of please?
You have three children, so, mommy brain is a real struggle.
I mean I have two.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean I do briefly, like I mean, I mean
I was the last out of the limo.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
In my look Okay, well that okay, So for people
who watch the show, you know that the last out
of the limo is usually somebody that they think, this
is the girl who's gonna stay for a long time.
Maybe yeah, I think so the last out of the
limo for sure, first out of the limo, last out
of the limo. Yeah, Ryan was the last out of
(12:36):
the first limo. Yeah, so maybe there's something to that too.
I don't know, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I to go back. I don't even know. When I
saw Chris, there was so many, it's so overwhelming. I
was just like, oh my gosh, this is.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So much, especially for somebody who is introverted, Like oh yeah,
like the overwhelm of the cameras in the and all
the things.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, it wasn't even I didn't actually realize I was
so introverted until the show.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, because I mean since, like you know, since like
high school, I was just busy working and I was
always around people, and so I never really thought I
was introverted.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I just didn't know. But the show really helped.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Being on the show, being on the lead part, I realized, like, wow,
like I get overwhelmed super easy when there's just too
much going on, and like I can't like think for myself.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I feel like it's interesting. They just came out with
a new personality type. You know, it's introvert and extrovert
and there's something in the middle. I can't remember what
they called it. And I was like, you know what,
I feel that way too, because I feel like both,
you know, the two of us, whenever we're together in
like a social environment, we're very social people. But I
(13:53):
definitely can like get overwhelmed and need like just to
sit down and be in quiet or watch a show
by myself or what do my laundry? Whatever? So I
feel like there's there's something to that where you're you're
a great extrovert, but you're also a great introvert, like
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I mean I feel like it's more of like
I can.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Turn it on when I need to, Yeah, but like
deep down, like like after events like I am burnt out,
and I think what helped me too.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I forget when who it was.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It was like a book, but it helped me understand
is like you're either introverted or extroverted depending on how
you recharge. And I think that's so important because I
feel like when people think introverted, they're like, oh, so
you're just like little quiet in the corner. It's not
that it's that I can be social and I can.
I can, you know, turn it on, but like by
(14:48):
the end of the night, I am waxed. I need
to go to bed, and then I probably need like
a whole twenty four hours till I can feel like,
oh okay, like I feel good now.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know, yeah, and then flash forward to God giving
you three boys.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, you guys, I know, especially with this baby
now because like you know, like, okay, I mean my
nervous system is wrecked all day.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Long because I'm like, sure, I'm like, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I have one who loves I have one who just
loves to talk and rap and sing, and and then
the other one's tear being tapping and drumming, and and
then we have the baby, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
I'm like, I'm like, I need to go hide.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You need one of those she sheds? Do you have
one on your property?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I so I.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Need a yes, yes, a little escape.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yes, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, So back to Sean season. Were you and Catherine close?
Like you you went and tell what when did he
send you home?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Fourth?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
After hometowns, after my big brother, you know, my brother,
and yes, your brother.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh my gosh, I totally remember. The whole world was like,
why are you being like this?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I know?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Do you still talk to him? I mean, are you
guys close? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I mean I wouldn't say we were ever like close,
but yeah we we talk now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's good, okay, good, Okay. So you were four.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I was four, So I feel like what happened is
whoever you were in rooms with you kind of gravitated to.
So I actually didn't even get to talk to Catherine
until like week eight.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, like, oh my gosh, yeah, we didn't even like.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Talk because there were there was like so many groups,
little cliques and.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Who was your person, who was your roommate, the other introverts.
Of course, No, I gravitated to Jackie.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She was the redhead, super.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Cute, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah Jackie.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And then I actually became really close to Daniella because
she's just like a riot, She's just.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Hilarious, yes, totally, and so she was friends with Catherine and.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Lindsay, and so that's how I started to you know,
talk to them. But when I was just too like
I did not want to deal with any drama or anything.
So I like the first week, I literally when I
saw big groups of girls, you know, crowding around, I
didn't go near it because I was like, I don't
(17:41):
I don't want to get in the gossip and the
like all the stuff. And I'm just a little bit
especially back then, I was a lot more reserved, a
lot more reserved, and so you know, I would talk
if people ask me a question, but I wasn't the
one to just start a conversation like be out there.
And so I, to be honest, I would love to
(18:02):
ask the ladies that were on my show, but I
feel like so many of them like watch the show
back and was like what like because they probably didn't
even really they didn't really know me, you know, from
just the house.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But that's fine, that's the beauty.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Of it's all good. Yeah, it is what it is. Okay,
So after you were eliminated, how soon after did they
start talking to you about the bachelorette? And do you
know if they were talking to anyone else or just you?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't know who they were talking to.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't have a clue. I wasn't hiding because back then,
you know, they were.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like, right, they hid you. That was honestly, that was
actually like I just I mean I okay.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
So I got eliminated and there was still what you know,
two more weeks or so yep, and so I had
to stay with three Yeah it felt like it felt
like an eternity.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
But I had to stay with a handler.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And we went from like Airbnb to Airbnb, and and
I was not in the know.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like every morning I'm like can I go home?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Like can I please go home like I mean also
at this point, like I'm broke, like I need to
go work, like yeah, so like I felt like this,
like oh my gosh, like I don't know how much
longer I'm going to be here. I also need to
pay my bills and and.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I didn't know. So uh. It was around what the
third airbnb.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That they called me to ask and start talking about
if I ever wanted to.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Be the Bachelorette.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And was it a call from one of the producers
or Mike or or Flice or what.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I think it was from Bennett. So it was
from one of the producers, Yeah, just to like see
what just to like see interesting where I was.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And at that point, I don't know, I think I
I don't know. I was cautious, I think at that
point because like I was kind of like, you know
it really you know, you really do get caught up.
I wouldn't say I was like I never got to
the love part with Sean. And so it's all worked
out so the way it was supposed to. But still
(20:25):
it's a lot of time to invest in not knowing
what will come, you know, Yeah, as I.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Experienced, right, uh huh, it's a lot of time and
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Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, so you get back to life. You get asked
to do bachelorette. How are you feeling about doing bachelorette
back then? Were you like, Eh, this isn't going to
work out. I'm just going to do it just because
it's like the continuation or were you feeling like you
had a good chance Because for me, it was like
(21:50):
they knew me, they knew like what I was looking for.
And I've always said, like they're going to find a
guy much easier than just little old me living in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know, yeah, Oh, I mean that's that's a good No.
I wasn't there. No, I was like, you were no.
I mean I lived in LA.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I lived in like first I lived in like Orange County,
and I lived in LA And then I was like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
There wasn't like not to There wasn't a problem of
meeting like lots of people, right, And so I didn't
I don't know. I didn't feel again, and I put
it in God's hands.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
But I don't know. I was skeptical, I think because
you you see how like you know, you have to
be super vulnerable and.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I don't know if I was like, yes, I'm doing
it at first, But the more that I thought about it,
I was really open to the idea because I'm like, what,
how awesome, Like maybe my husband is in this batch,
you know, like maybe they will.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Find the right guy.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And you know, I didn't have roots anywhere, so I
was open to moving anywhere as long as there was
like water in the West coast.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I was open to it, and so once I decided,
I was, you know, I was all in. But I
also didn't want to put too much pressure on meeting
my husband in that group, and so I never would say, like,
my husband's in the group, not until yeah, like you know,
it's the first night. I'm like, I don't know if
(23:34):
you're my husband, right?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, that's so funny. Yeah, but you say it like that,
I love it. So I want to know, was when
you saw Chris was it like, ah, I love it
for sight kind of situation or when did you really
(23:59):
think he could be my one?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah? He had the best limo entrant and trance.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
What was it? Remind me? I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
He just got to show his personality. He was super
nervous though, so he was a little shaky. But he
got down on one knee and then said like and
then he said, do you mind?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What did you say?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Do you mind if I'd tie my shoe or something?
And then he said, I just wanted to get off
on the right foot.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like but it was so funny, it's so cute.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
It's so his like quirky personality, and so it was
good because it made me laugh, and you know, I
was super awkward that like standing there just like with
guys coming, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Don't know what to say. Do I say? You know
what I mean? I was super awkward a lot of times.
But yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Definitely interesting to look back because I'm like, wow, like
not my personality.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
To like why did they choose me? But but.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Of course they we know why they chose you. I
mean for all of the reasons. But I mean, I
think it's so funny thinking about it because it really
isn't your like cup of tea, no.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
No, but you know, that's what really helped us stay
together and like not focused on what would come next,
but actually just going going to to like our back
to our life and really growing something that wasn't based
off what we can do next.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And I think that helped.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean that's how it was for me and
Ryan for sure. I feel like that's one of the secrets.
And it's really interesting because you and I and our
hobbies and I think Jojo and Jordan were kind of
the same in that they disappeared and you know, I
feel like they disappeared and went back to their life
(25:55):
and like startup businesses and whatever. I wonder because the
three of us, I don't know if there's any other
bachelorettes who are still married. Obviously Ashley and Rachel got
married and then got divorced, so I don't know if
we're including them. But like, that's really interesting because I
feel like there's something to that, like not focusing on,
(26:18):
you know, the things that are going on in the
whirlwind and really just focusing on your relationship.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I also think what I've noticed too is when both
parties are interested in fame or which is not a
bad thing to want from it, but it's but I mean,
I do see that when both.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Are pursuing that, then you're in competition with each other,
you know.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And it's like because you know, if one's gonna get
mad that the other is getting more attention, And I
don't know, Yep, you would hope.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, you're right, you were right. But but the fact
of the matter is that we come off of the
show and we haven't known each other for that long,
so we don't have like that really strong foundation of
you know, a friendship or years of knowing each other.
So yeah, I feel like you really got to buckle
down and get to know each other. Oh yeah, okay,
(27:17):
so have you heard because well, I guess first of all,
I should talk about the fact that you just did
like a major social media cleanse, So tell us about
that you were you were off, like are you feeling lighter?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
And yeah, so I'm not a huge like browser or anything,
but it's still like there's still so much poll, right,
like even just having it on your phone and just
having and if you are posting, then there's even more
poll because you're like checking.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And no.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I just felt led for the summer to take off
social media, and so I was only gonna do two
months and then it turned into four months because I
got so good at it, and then I.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Don't know, yeah, I mean it felt great. Honestly, it
was amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Like Chris would be like, you know, stuff happened in
the world, and you know, I'd.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Be so like what you know, and just live in.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
My life, and I'm just gonna live in my life.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I loved it because.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I yeah, I loved it because you know, I I
am also very empathetic, so like even reading people's like
hard stories, like I would find myself thinking about that
the next day, or like you're and I'm like, why
am I carrying everybody's like stuff when I need to
be focusing on my family, my marriage, myself.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And I don't know. It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I honestly recommend it to anybody because it just created
a new intention and you can have both.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And I think that's the key.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You don't have to break helps get you started, but
you can have a healthy relationship with social media. You know,
you just can't let it boss you around and you know,
control your impulses and control your thoughts and control everything.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Reach ah.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Man, I just wish that I could do it, I know,
because you know, it is my job and so or
one of my jobs, and so I yeah, it's so hard.
It's so hard because I get caught up in the
in the scroll. And then also you know, with my
(29:30):
kid being a senior, like I literally just finished this,
like I got nominated to post ten pictures for ten
days or whatever, you know, a senior, and so it
just got me like on my phone all the time
because I'm going down the rabbit hole of looking for
pictures and video and you know all the things. And
with him like graduating soon, like we're going to have
(29:51):
to like pull up pictures and take pictures all the things. Right, So, yes,
I have found myself glued to my phone. I really
need to disconnect.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, the biggest tip that I like, that helped for
me because we we've been doing it for years, so
it's a habit. Like you literally pick up your phone
and your son goes like right there and you're like,
I didn't even mean to so for me because I am,
my photos are right next to Instagram, and so when
I felt that impulse, I would go to my photos
(30:23):
and look at albums from the boys when they were little,
and oh my gosh, it created like this new gratitude
for my life in the present because I would look
back and just be so moved, you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Know, by like when they were babies, or even just
Chris and I and we look like babies.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm like, oh my gosh, Like it was so worth it,
right because I spent say, like you're like, I spent
thirty minutes scrolling my family, you know, getting filled with
like newfound gratitude for my life or I could you know,
you know, scroll Instagram and is that what does that do.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
For my brain?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Oh? I don't even want to think about it. I
know Okay, let's get onto a new topic. So okay,
so since you had the social media like break cleanse whatever,
we were calling it, genius idea, Uh, you might not
know about the next bachelorette. Do you know who the
next bachelorette is?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I did hear?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
What's her name?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Taylor Taylor, Taylor, Frankie, Paul frank.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I was gonna say Taylor Paul Frankie, Taylor, Taylor, Frankie Paul.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeap. She is from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Have you do you know who she is? Have you
watched the show before?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I know who she is and the gist I guess of.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
What the whole show was about, and like the sex scandal,
and I think she got another divorce, was it?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I think I have the biography.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Down, got it? So what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't know. I mean, I can see why they need.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
They want someone to revive the show and to create
that buzz.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So I think that's great. I think that's wonderful. I
think she will bring that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I don't know her personally, Like I don't watch the show,
so I don't actually know what kind.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Of drama ensues.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
But I will say we did have a friend that
was being pursued to be the Bachelor because they were
also going to revive The Bachelor, and so they were
eyeing people who might have you know, they.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Were going to do a new Bachelor, and.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You know, then they were like they called them back, like, oh, like,
we're not going to pursue that because did you see
who we have for bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
And he's like yeah, and then they're like, would you
like to be on?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And you know, I think what it comes down to
is if there's wife material there, yep, because like our
friends like, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But you know that's where I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
What kind of pool of guys we're going to see
and yell, serious they're going to be because of course
they don't want a dater of course.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, she's gorgeous, Yeah, and she's funny, and you know
she's if you are drawn to fame at all, she's
famous and you know all of these things. So yeah,
I'm very interested. Ben and I for almost Famous did
a podcast when when it was announced, and I have
the very same like same sentiments like I'm just interested
(33:38):
to see I think it was a good idea to
pull someone from another show who already has a fan base,
who's not from The Bachelor a Bachelorette. But I am
really interested to see who the guys are going to
be and and what the support is going to be
because a lot of people I feel like, we're like, no,
(34:00):
I'm not going to watch because you know, she's had
she has a history, Like I guess she was accused
of domestic violence. I think she was in jail, and yeah,
she has She's had a couple, she's had. I think
she has three kids, maybe with maybe two different I
(34:21):
don't know her bio as well as I probably should,
but regardless, I'm like, she's one of us. Okay, one divorce.
She's had one divorce, and yeah, I don't know her,
but I feel like everyone deserves love and forgiveness, and
so if she is serious about it and it's going
(34:46):
to be entertaining, then why not do it? Like I'm
I'm going to welcome her with open arms to our chick.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I think it's going to be extremely entertaining.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And I think that's why it is a good choice,
because if that's you know, it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
She's unapologetic to who she is, Like she's like, listen,
this is me and this is who I'm going to be.
And I have a lot of respect for that. Like
I agree, like me or not, this is who I am.
So whatever.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. I think that's great. Yeah,
I'll be interested to see the guys.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I know me too. Okay, So what would you give
her in terms of advice from you know, me and you?
It's funny because I get this question and I'm like,
(35:39):
our world has changed so much and I don't even
know if the advice that I would give is applicable
because it was so long ago. I mean twenty almost
by almost twenty five years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's incredible. So you guys are awesome. You guys are goals.
That's a goal. I love it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Thank you so cute every day. But so I feel
like the advice that I would give is maybe a
little irrelevant. But what would you say something that might
help her in her journey?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah? It is, It is true.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I mean they have to navigate a like we I
did navigate social media when it was like brand new,
and people were like, I'm so excited to just tell
you everything that they thought about you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But I feel like, you know, they grew That sounds
so crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
They grew up in this world social media.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Oh my god, how old is that?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I know?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But oh I know right well, you look amazing by
the way, Oh you're sissy, You look amazing. You have
not changed a bit.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, you know, I honestly it's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It's so hard to say, because I would say, you know,
put your like, put your relationship first.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Like, But for saying like advice for the show, because.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
No advice for her like in her journey on Bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, I think she's got it because she's been on
reality TV. I don't think she needs advice on being
on the show. I think she's gonna kill it and
be awesome to watch. In terms of relationship though, yeah,
I think that if she's really.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Serious about the guy, to truly focus on that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, agreed, Yeah, great advice. Do you talk to any
of the guys from your season obviously besides your husband?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, we used to stay in touch with quite a few,
but you know, life everyone started having kids and you know,
life happened. But yeah, we I mean we stayed Chris
stayed in touch with like the four that he kind
of hung out with.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
But yeah, now we no, not really.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
No, not unless people came up to Seattle when we
were in Seattle, then maybe we would see them.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Okay, And Chris never watched the show? Is that still true?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
He was the show, He just didn't he watched the show.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Oh I thought he never watched it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
No, he watched it. Yeah, he watched the show. I
would watch ahead of.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Time, and sometimes I'd be like I would just warn him,
you know, like, oh, got it, maybe you shouldn't watch
this episode or like watch it knowing him He watched
it regardless, but I would just say, like, you know,
this might be one you could sit out.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Maybe that's what I'm getting wrong is maybe there was
an episode that he didn't watch.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Probably yeadly.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, So will you or have you shown the boys
any of the show And do they understand that that's
where you met?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
No, so not yet. And so this is it's funny
because this is like.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
We're on the cusp of that where Yeah, I actually
just told Chris like the other week, like I think
it's time, like we really need to, you know, sit
down with them and talk to them, because I mean
but you know what, because we live in a world
of social media and podcast and Chris's work is very
like sales, so he puts himself out there.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't think they understand that.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
They know that people might come up to us, but
you know, mom has a podcast or had a podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
And dad does this, so it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Ring a bell that like, oh, it might be something bigger,
so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I don't know, We're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
To kind of see I might be in the works.
Do they know, like I assume that when you're traveling,
because I feel like when we're traveling that way, you
get asked the most to have pictures taken. Do they
have they started to sense like, well, that's weird. Why
would that person who we've never met before or want
a picture of my mom and dad?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I know. I think my my oldest has always been
so inquisitive and like observing, so he always would just
be like looking at them. But again I don't think
he I think because of their world of YouTube and
their world of podcasts, like I think they I just
don't think anything's.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Weird totally, and they don't need to right now. That's
totally fine. I just didn't know if they were kind
of clued into it yet or have asked you. No,
they why is that person taking a picture?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Quite honestly, I'm really surprised that they haven't heard from
someone else.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
But you know, well, that's what I was wondering, because
I feel like they're getting old enough to have friends
who are like, hey, my mom was just saying this,
or we saw you on my computer or whatever, you
know whatever, Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, I really it's coming.
I think it's coming.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I think we're gonna sit down with them soon so
that they know so it's not like an awkward thing.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But yeah, wait, you're famous. People know who you are.
And I hate using the word famous, but yeah, but
people know who you are. Like that's great.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I know I'm at the because it's been thirteen years now,
so yeah, I'm at the place.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Of like did we go to school together? How do
I know you? I know you from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
That is always my go to.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I would love to take a poll on like when
someone says that, do they do they prefer if I
just tell them like, oh, well did you watch the Bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Or would they prefer I.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Didn't say anything and then it's just as it's the
same awkwardness, Like I don't know, maybe I guess could
do a plan.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Now, because I do kind of half and half. Like
there are times when I'm like, I'm just going to
say it because it seems like they're going to be
annoyed if they can't figure it out, and then I'm
like other times I'm like, oh, really I look familiar. Well, okay, great,
yeah I must look like one of your friends or something.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I'll be like I have a very familiar face exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I have said that so often. Yes, so true, I
did have someone since you were off of social media,
maybe wouldn't have seen this and not that like with
the algorithm rory them and everything. We've been following each
other for hours, but I still don't see everyone's stuff.
But I was talking about how I was playing pickupball
the other day and a ball came onto my court
(42:18):
with this lady came over to get her ball and
she was like, oh my gosh, you're the bachelorette. And
I was like, oh hi, how are you, and she goes,
I am so old. I watched your show and I
was like, wait a second.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
You're like you're not okay.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Literally, I was like, whoa, Okay. I mean, I know
you're not intending to insult me, but or call me old.
That's not the intention. She was super sweet, but I
was kind of like, well, like, I don't want to
be called old. It's the same thing. I'm sure you've
gotten this before where people are like, oh, you look
(43:03):
so much better than you did on television or whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
To say that I was I was just gonna say that,
I was gonna say in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
In the beginning, right off the show, they'd be like, oh,
you're I.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Don't I don't know if they said so much prettier
than like or but or they said even prettier.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
But I still was like, well.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's rude because I'm the same person whether I'm on
I'm on television or in real life. Like, I'm the
same person. So you're literally criticizing me, yeah, while giving
me a compliment at the same time.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
That's so funny, I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean, people have great intentions, and I feel like
I if I was meeting someone that I not looked
up to is not the right word, but that I
watched in my living room and felt like I knew them,
then I would definitely feel flustered. So I don't hold
it against them, but I am like, yeah, it makes
me think more about what I say to people.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Right, I agree with that Ross Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, okay, So what are you going to do for
Noah's birthday? Any plans?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
No plans.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I wanted to just keep a small family a smash cake,
and then the boys are like, we need balloons and
friends over and can we have like a bounce house?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And like, oh my gosh, that's like that's your birthday.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's a birthday, yes, right, remember it? He's one. Yeah,
that's cute. Okay, last thing before I let you go,
please tell us about your book.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, well I wrote I wrote too.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
So the first one was okay, tell us about both
on twenty two I don't even know when, and that
was Road to Roses And so that's more of a
biography of like how I got in the show my
feelings towards that. Actually I feel like it like walks
through my whole entire dating history, which is quite interesting,
I guess. But it's funny because that was what four
(45:04):
years ago I wrote it, and I'm like, so much
has already changed in like what you would you know,
put out there, But yeah, it's my journey to motherhood
and so that's much more personal about me. And then
what I wrote Faith Unlocked, which is to help people
walk through their faith journey. Yeah, whether they're just getting
(45:26):
started or seasoned believer, just to get closer to amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Does it come with like a workbook?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I have a.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Workbook that you can download on my website to go
with it. So it's actually like, yeah, I love it.
I really love like the inner healing of stuff. So
it's like really healing heart wounds, brokenness, you know, all
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
So that's great.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, thank you, that's exciting. And are you designing it
all anymore? No?
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I laid that down to do homeschool and so it
was perfect timing though I was ready by that point, and.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
So yeah, it's so crazy. Eventually, I think, you know, later.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
In life, I still plan to design or have a
have a little like bridal boutique.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I think I would love that.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh totally. I mean, girl, I with my kids almost gone,
it's like you question what you're gonna do after they're
after they're gone, And that's definitely something that I'm thinking
about so gosh, if you have that in your back
pocket and you've already done it, that'd be perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, so that'll be exciting when that time comes.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
In like twenty years, exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Almost twenty years, it'll go by like that. Don't blink, Okay.
It is always so much fun in catching up and
you see your beautiful face. Give Chris a hug for me,
and hopefully I'll get to see you sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah, hopefully someone will get married or something. Give us
a reason, right, is the reason I'll.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Get together again. That would be so great.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Thank you for coming on the almost famous o G
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