September 25, 2023 • 34 mins
Our Bachelor OGs Trista Sutter and Bob Guiney catch up with Season 7 Bachelorette winner JP Rosenbaum!
JP gets real about life since splitting from Ashley Hebert, and we hear his experience looking for love as a single dad.
Plus, find out if we’d ever see JP make a return to the franchise… but as The Bachelor!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio, almost famous
the ogs.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We're here, We're.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Back, we are back. In a fact, we have a
great og with us, my man JP.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
What's going on guys, JP?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
How are you, buddy? Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
You're very welcome. Thanks for inviting me. This is fun.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We get the old we get the old schoolers together
and we talk about, you know, walking up hill both
ways to school and how things were tougher. You know,
it's so much harder to find, you know, the perfect
match with a rose back in the day, right kind
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You gotta do it the old fashioned way, walk into
a bar, meet somebody, or the end of a friend
or come on good old days.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't know about you, guys, but you know, when
the whole app dating thing first came out, you know,
and they were always talking about it, I'm like, dude,
that's just it's ridiculous. Who would use an app to
meet someone? And they're like, hey, dummy, you went on
a TV show and handed out flowers?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Sorry, Like I did it the old fashioned way.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, we have the old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Way now it's considered the old fashioned way. Back then,
for sure, it was.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not a little bit of a renegade.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So how is life, JP, what's up?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Life is good? Life is it's pretty stable, and you know,
obviously as you get older, it gets a little more
this is the wrong word, but different, but a little
more boring. I would say, you know, it's good. You know,
like the kids kind of consume everything, and you know,
you kind of make the most of the time that
you have free, which if you were a divorced you
(01:44):
have a little more time free than when you're married.
But but either way, it's life is good. Like happy
kids are happy. I'm happy where I'm in a good
groove both socially and with work. And I don't know,
I don't have much to complain about these days. Yay.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And you're loving Miami.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm liking Miami a lot. You know, this summer was
nine years since we moved down.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's a long time.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It is a long time, I hear it. The ten
year mark is really where you start feeling like you're
at home to this. But you know it, I still
every time I go back up to New York and
I'm in the city or I'm on Long Island. It
still feels like home to me. My family, my extended
family is still up there. So I love it down here.
The quality of life is great. You know, Everyone's like, well,
(02:34):
would you move? Would you move? And the short answer
is yes, but I can't because the kids are here moving,
so I'm not moving. So I am here for good
and I am enjoying life. And it's you know, Miami
in Florida in general is really a great quality of life,
so no complaints.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I love it down there. You know, about twenty years ago,
I used to date in Miami heat dancer.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh really, okay you yeah, isn't that interest?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Wasn't it you who he danced for Kris?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Wasn't there just a reunion or something?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Was?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I got to dance it? It was so much fun.
It was so intimidating because I'm fifty years old and
I do not dance like ever, not like Ashley. Like
I know Ashley goes to like, you know, kind of
like dance classes at the gym. I didn't have that
in Veil when we were living there, so like, I
haven't danced in forever, and it was so much fun
(03:35):
to be out on the court. Blakely came with me,
my daughter and she got to meet all the girls
and be on the court too, and it was.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's like Miami is We'll always have a special place
in my heart just because I spent seven years there.
But you know, it definitely is a unique place, I
feel like, and so for me, it's good to like
get there and visit.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, you know, you know, like constantly having to wick
away the sweat because that's I'll tell you. The one
thing about Miami is it is brutal hot sometimes, you know, right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And humid, the humidity.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You know, everybody's always said the summers are so hot.
The summers are so hot. And I got to tell you,
for eight of the nine years, it never really bugged me.
You know, you moved a condition. This is the past.
Summer was brutal, though, really really bad.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Lot are you.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I go fishing as much as I possibly can, so
I'm definitely on the water a lot. Yeah, you know,
and you just kind of deal with it. It's just
it's just a part of life. And come October November
until April, you know, it's it's really gorgeous down here.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, I have to bring up the fact that on
I think on a recent story that you shared, you
were taking the kids somewhere maybe just see your family,
and they were complaining. They were not complaining about the cold,
but they were. They were freezing and it was like
eighty degrees inside.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I was up, Yeah, I was up in New York
this weekend with the kids. And if it dips below
eighty two, I mean I'm yeah, yeah, seventy eight for sure,
but somewhere from the seventy eight to eighty two range.
They are they're cold. They're just they're they're cold.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
They're so funny and they really own.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
What happens.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Remember the first time Ford saw felt snow, he was
so excited and happy and it was fun, and then
the cold hit him and he burst into tears.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well wait, so when obviously when everyone met you, obviously
it was with Ashley and your season of the bacheler
Atte and then you were living in New York at
that time, right, so you both did you both start
in New York? I thought you did, so.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I was living and working in New York. Ashley at
the time she went from her dental school at Penn
to her pediatric dental residency, which was also in Philly.
So we we moved. We were briefly in New York
together when when we when we met, and then we
moved to Jersey, which was halfway between my work and
(06:14):
her residency. Lived there for two years, and we had
the option to moved out of Miami for a minimum
of four years at that time because I had a
work a work opportunity, and we're like, if we don't
like it, we'll come back, and so we moved and
you know, nine plus years later, we're still here.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's crazy. So that was actually for you that I
don't know why.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In my mind I thought maybe that's where she was
given an opportunity to practice or whatever. So that's that's
really cool. It was so you basically were like, let's
let's do this. And so then she started her practice there.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah. So she she had lived in Hawaii for a
year and always knew she wanted to live in a
warm climate, and so this was an opportunity where we
could live in a warm climate where I didn't have
to really change much with work, and she could work
do what she does. Really, anywhere there's there's a need
for for pediatric dentists. And you know, at the time
she wasn't starting a practice, but she was joining one,
(07:09):
and there's always a need. So it seemed like a
good fit. And we weren't married to it. It was
you know, four years and minimum for me and we
could always have moved back.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But yeah, that's awesome. That is awesome. And so the
kids really only no living in Miami.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's it. Forty was born.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, amazing. Where was he born? Which hospital?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
South Miami?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So sorry I worked at a hospital, but he wouldn't
have been at the hospital. I guess they don't deliver anyway.
Uh so I have to ask, how is your health?
I know you were diagnosed with giambiera de'ambre a while ago.
How are you doing.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Very I'm impressed you pronounced that the right way.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I couldn't pronounce it. Yeah, she gets.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Out now, you know. It was I was extraordinarily lucky
where my case was diagnosed super fast. I was treated
fast and they stopped the progression fast, which is really
the key when it comes to that stuff. So my case,
although you know, I spent two months trying to walk
again in tie my shoes and button buttons and pt
(08:16):
and ot and spent some time and you know, every
day pretty much doing that stuff. There are stories where
people stop breathing and they're on a ventilator for four
months and they spend six months marking learning how to
walk again. And so there I was on the I'm
going to say easier end of the spectrum and super fortunate.
(08:36):
But you know, there's no there's I'm back to normal.
I mean I was pretty much back to normal within
a couple of months. Yeah, And the odds of me
getting it again are the same as me getting it
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, that's what I was going to ask. Is there
any chance?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, I think it's like one in one hundred and
fifty two hundred thousand something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I don't do they do they know why you contract it?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Not?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Contract is a genetic Is it? Is it a genetic thing?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
There's nothing on genetics, they say. You know, generally it
stems from your your your battling an illness the week before,
and the antibodies that are fighting that that illness then
turn on the nerves in your body. And I remember
it vividly because the week before it was our anniversary
and we were away, but like I was definitely ill
(09:20):
with some sort of stomach bug and then a week
later it happened.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So, oh my gosh, that is so crazy. I didn't
realize that about it.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, I think it's tied to like vaccines. I don't
I don't know if there's any data on that, but
but yeah, it's uh, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. So how is you know?
Obviously we have to talk about the divorce because this
is a Bachelor podcast and you guys, and I know
that people are interested in kind of knowing your story.
(10:00):
But how how are things with you? Do you guys?
Are you? I know you're amazing co parents are you guys? Friends?
Are you in touch other than like having to exchange
the kids? How is life with you?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Guys? Life is? Life is good. It's very stable. You know,
she and I it's it's it's civil. We're friendly. There's
no you know, there's you know, we don't hang out, right,
it's not like we're friends, but but there's an open
line of communication. We text or talk or some sort
(10:37):
of communication almost every day. And yes it's all kid related,
but you know, there's there's no resentment, there's no anger,
there's no sort of you know, ill will uh. You
know that actually took much longer for me to get
past than than her, for sure. But the relationship is
(10:59):
so and stable and friendly and fine, just fine. We're
making it work.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I said it when we had we had Ashley on,
I actually said it. I was like, even if you
want the divorce, divorce is still really hard, and so
it's like, you know, going through it, you're still undoing
a family to a certain degree in figuring out how
to you know, everyone says co parent, but almost like
co brand that family moving forward, like Okay, here's how
we're going to try and do this, and it's never
(11:27):
what it was. So it's always a challenge, I think,
And you know, I mean I've been a divorce guy also,
so I understand that feeling. Even though even though I
knew it was the right thing, it wasn't necessarily something
that I was all, you know, puppy dogs and ice
cream about. You know, it takes time emotionally to get
your life back, to get back in charge of your
feelings about your life and about that person one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean I think that I had a I can't
speak for her, but I know I had it. Seemingly
I had a much harder time with it post divorce
than she did. I think, you know, in her mind,
she she was there already like towards the end of
the marriage, and for me, it was just I had
I just had a really tough time, you know, for
the following year, year and a half just accepting it. Yeah,
(12:13):
not because I was still in love with her, just
because you have this image of what you want your
life and your marriage and your family to be and
that gets shattered and it's like, is this really my
new reality? And like this is not what I want?
And so it's a constant battle, you know, and emotionally mentally,
and it just took me. Took me a while to
get to get past it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, I think I was gonna say, when you're in
the public eye too, there's a little bit of at
least I went through this embarrassment, you know, like I was.
I don't know if it was I know it was
self imposed. I mean, I know I was doing it
to myself, but I was just like, oh my god,
I've let all these people down or I've done all
this kind of stuff. And I think, you know, I
think people feel that even if they're not in the
public eye.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But it definitely is sort of amped up a little
bit when you are you know.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, you know, we we've i mean, historically, we never
really felt any pressure with that, you know. I think
I think I was more I felt like I let
myself down and I let my kids down, you know,
like that I that I had that I grew up
in this seemingly perfect, you know, four person family with
my parents and my brother in the house and the
(13:21):
you know, and and I felt like I ruined that
for them initially, right, I don't feel that way now,
but I felt like I ruined that for them, and
and just accepting like is this it is?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
This?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is this?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So now I'm that guy that's divorced and now I
have two kids and looking for love again. It's just
it felt very surreal, and I didn't accept it for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how how are the kids doing with it?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
There? They've always been great with it, you know. She
we our process for divorce was very drawn out because
we had we had made the decision right before COVID hit,
and then well like, well, well, now what do we do.
We're supposed to get divorced, but the kids are coming
over from school, we sell the house like so there
was so we had a drawn out process where I was,
(14:07):
you know, living in the guest room, and then she
moved I moved out, and we sold the house. So
the whole divorce process was spread out over a year
and a half, maybe more so the kids. Yeah, it
was so the kids didn't see an abrupt uh, we're
getting divorced, momb's moving out, and it was never like that.
And plus they were also younger too, so yeah, they
(14:28):
always handled it very very well. And now they know
mom and dad are divorced and we split time and
then there's there's split days, and so they know. They've
always been accepting of it, which is one big, you know,
level of release us.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yes, I said, I think that says a lot about
you two as parents too. The I mean, you know,
I can't it's.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Probably I know it's never easy on anybody, but the
way you two handle it and the way you two
are with one another, I'm sure kind of trickles down,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
They they see mom and dad being.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Really good to one another and being carrying in sweet
people which you both are, so I'm sure that probably
helps a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, we made certainly conscious efforts to not show emotion.
I shouldn't say not your emotion, not if Ashley and
I were disagreeing or felt a certain way. It never
you know, it was never shown in front of the kids.
It was always happy. This is the way it is.
You love your mom, you love your dad, We love you.
(15:28):
It's there was always. It was always full of love,
and they wouldn't know any different, aside from the fact
that we weren't living together right good.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
In terms of social media, Ashley came on and she
talked about how afterwards she got a crap ton of
haters coming at her. Did you get the same thing,
like anything?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Like, no, no, no, I mean it was relatively quiet
post of Wars. You know, there was obviously the comments
we're here for you. I'm sorry to hear that. I mean, yeah, stuff,
I don't remember reading anything where like you. You know,
maybe there was the occasional you ruined a marriage and
(16:20):
you walked away from your kids, Like maybe there was
one occasional one of those, but it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, blow it off.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You don't really listen to it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, you take the get with the bad in those bads,
but it was.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Certainly not overwhelming. It's the point where I can't remember
any of them. Yeah, I do remember all the positive,
you know, the positive feedback that I got.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Just are you a more like positive guy? Because I
feel like Ashley and I are pretty very similar in
the fact that we're pretty sensitive and like I, if
I would get any kind of hate, like the one
out of a hundred out of a thousand, I focus
on that one. You know what I mean? Do you
feel like if you if she got like one, like
(17:02):
you were saying you might have gotten one, that she
would have more focused on that and you were.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Look, those can be overwhelming, right, You could get five
out of five thousand, and all of a sudden you
want to start responding to these people, and like they
get you all amped up. They certainly get you more
amped up than the positive ones. So sure, it's possible
that there were a handful that made it seem like
there were a lot. Look, I don't know, she didn't
really share that with me at the time, so but yeah,
(17:31):
you get that one that you really want respond to,
is like, what's the point should I really respond, does
it like you're just creating this unnecessary just stress. So
so and I probably used to be like that, but
but these days, like I just I just don't give
a crap.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I think you go through enough in life, right, you
start prioritizing the someone sitting behind a keyboard just trying
to get your you know you're going right.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You're getting a more fuel if you respond, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right, totally? Yeah, Okay, so dating are you dating?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Uh? I'm not dating anyone at the moment, kay. You know,
for I had a it's been a very interesting few
years because I was not accepting mentally and emotionally of
the divorce for for a while, and that certainly impacted
my ability to connect with women, you know. I mean
(18:31):
I remember just going out on dates just to go
through the motions because like I needed it for me,
you know. And and then I realized fairly quickly, like
I'm not ready for anything like and so and also
you know, not my twenties anymore either. So it's not
like I'm just looking to go out and have fun,
you know, Like that's that's because that's not what I
(18:53):
That's not what I want either.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So it's.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Have to be careful, I mean, and you certainly can
have a lot of fun, but not that I'm not
having fun. But you know, I'm older, I know what
I want. I'm not you know I'm not. But I
was not in a place for a while to really
get anywhere. And so, you know, for a good year
year and a half, who knows, I just I couldn't
connect Like I would meet women, I'd go out on dates,
(19:20):
and but I just couldn't get there.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Now I'm just at a place where I have connected
with women, and you know that there are there is potential,
but it comes in ways, right like like there have
been three, four or five months stints and then it
it it either fizzles or dies for some reason. That
makes a lot of sense, like oh, you're not sure
(19:46):
if you want kids, and I want kids, and there's
that whole and so but overall, I'm at least in
a good place to date these days.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Are you saying you want more kids?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I am saying that, No, I don't. I feel like
I tell I say the same thing to everyone. It's
very difficult for me to put myself in a position of,
oh my god, I'm in love with you. Of course
you want to have a kid, Yes, let's have it,
let's have a bait, Like I can't. I don't know
what my brain and my heart will feel like in
(20:19):
that moment. But I'm also but I'm not looking for
a family, like I'm not looking.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
To have kids, right, right, So you know, and that
answer is not really I mean, it's honest, but it's
not really what a lot of women want to.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hear, like they want to be very popular on the
same page, like I want to start a family or
I like, I don't think I want that, But I
can't tell you how I will feel in that moment.
So I've had a handful that, like I just can't
continue to see you because you're just not You're just
not sure. And I'm like, I get it, you know, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's such a it's such a different I would imagine.
So I was JP, how old are you?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Forty six?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Okay, so I was.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Forty What was I forty one when I got divorced
or forty something like that? No, I was, I was
younger than that anyway, I was really I'm fifty two. Yeah,
I'm fifty two. The first thing that goes to the memory,
but I remember I was probably late thirties when I
got divorced, and I remember even then thinking to myself, like,
you know, but I didn't have children at the time,
(21:22):
and now that I do, if I put myself back
in that place, like, oh, if I'm all of a
sudden single with a couple of kids, I just don't
know what. I don't know how I would react either.
I feel like, you know, it's great that you're so
mindful about it, though. I think that's a big part
of it, right, is to know who you are and
know what you want and you know.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Be prepared to deal with however the chips fall.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I suppose, Yeah, it's definitely limiting. But at the same time,
you don't want to get involved with someone and spend three,
four or five six months and then realize like, I'm
still still don't want a kid and you still do
and now you've just wasted six months and so so yeah,
I mean, it's the only way to go these days.
I don't know, I don't know any other way to
do it. It would be a lot easier if I was,
(22:02):
you know, twenty eight to thirty two, and even if
I had a kid at that age or didn't like
it'd be a lot easier, but it's it's founding. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, so we recently had Deanna on and we were
her and I were at for me and her. How
do you say that? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
We were she and me and she and I? She
and I and yeah, because you would say because I
was at that.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
So yeahat take off the second one and how does
it sound exactly?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
There you go for the English lesson? Boys. So we
were just at the Mentel all for the current season
of The Bachelorette, and we were joking with the producers
and probably not just joking, it was probably a little
bit serious on her part, but talking about since they're
doing a Golden Bachelor, would they do a like midlife Bachelor?
(22:58):
If they did, would you ever go back?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Man, look, I don't close any doors, right, Like, Okay,
it would be very difficult to say yes to something
like that just because the logistics with the kids in
my career, I don't know what that would look like.
So just be like, no, I would never No, I
can't say that, but like I don't it's not likely.
I don't know how to make all that work. But
(23:24):
you know, the old the older I get, the more
I realize that you just like you live your life,
have fun and make the most of it, because the
older you get, the fewer opportunities there are to do
things that are unique and fun. And so, you know,
I look at my my parents that are getting older
that they're a little restricted in what they can do,
and so you know, I'm not going to say no,
(23:46):
you know, but it's certainly not what I want. Right
there were a couple of golden bats where jokes throw
in my way by the way, just saying, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm sure I will you watch? Have you seen like promos?
Will you watch? Do you watch it all?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I haven't watched in years.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean, that would be my guess. I feel like
most of the people who are in our age don't
necessarily watch these days if they've been part of the show.
I just feel like it's harder to connect with the
people who are in their twenties when you're in such
a different place in your life. So that's why I'm
excited about Gary season, you know, And I feel like
(24:30):
I can relate more to the sixty year olds than
I can twenty year olds.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
No, yeah, oh man, I hadn't thought about it. That
way before.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
You're right, if I find myself with nothing to do
on a Monday night and it's on, when I watch
a little bit of it, maybe just out of curiosity,
but certainly not setting my.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
TVR. What do they call these days? Yeah, right, recording.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Just as a funny thrill back JP.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So my my season of the my whole season of
the Bachelor, and I think Trista when I was on
Trista's season as well. My brother in law saved on
his new fangled recording device back then called TiVo. But
he's like, yeah, this is gonna be around forever. This
thing's gonna be amazing. Well, when when my wife and
I got together, she's like, well, I want to see
(25:20):
your season because I was in high school, you know.
So we put it on and we can't figure out
how to hook it into a new like the new
smart TVs. When we finally get one of the things
plugged in, it's like in black and white, which she
thought was great because she was like, you know, oh
yeah back in your day, and I'm like, whatever, dude,
it ended up being like.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Just a disaster. So yeah, when you said DVR, its
just triggered me because I'm like, oh yeah, I mean,
what is it called? These days?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You can't even get yours on YouTube, Like there's no one.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I don't think so. I don't think they made mine
into it. But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't think so either. I'll get a clip from
someone now and then, but I feel like it's like
from Hulu or something. Yeah, that's funny, something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Somebody said they replayed my season not too long ago
on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, right, but it doesn't live there, like you can't
go there whatever you want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's like, you know, appointment viewing.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think, right right, like in the communities down near
Miami that are for the elderly folk, you know, like
shuffle boards and oh crowd, you know, that's appointment viewing.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I'm going to move up to Boca for that though.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
There you go there, you go, what grades are the
kids in?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
They just started third and first?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh so you got to you got a while before
they're out of school.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah. Oh yeah. Their school only goes up to fifth grade,
so they'll have to change schools going to middle school.
But yeah, you know, I actually brought up to me
the other day for the first time, would I ever
consider moving a little bit further north in Florida, like
up to you know, for Lauderdale, Boca del Rey. And
you know, it's something that we've started talking about. Not
(27:08):
that we have to move together, but no, that's an
hour commute each direction. Yeah, we were both open to
doing it, that maybe we would do it just to
you know, get the kids in a little bit better
of a school and a different quality, different cost of
living up there. And so we'll see. Right now, we're
sticking to stay in put, and.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Your job is pretty secure. Like, didn't you just start
I feel like you just posted too. Didn't you just
start a new project?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, but but my I do so I do real
estate development in every different phase of a development. This
just happens to be one that we broke ground on
for the first time in a while.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh got it.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's down in Miami. So yeah, I would have to
come down to Miami to service some of my clients
and some of my projects down here. But you know,
people commute like Bocus as far north as I would go.
But we just started talking about it. Who knows that
it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, I remember back in the show.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You were construction management back then as well, so you yes,
I stayed in that world, huh.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I have.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I flip flopped back and forth between the construction and
the development side for for a while, and then I've
just been on the development side for I don't know,
ten twelve years at this point, maybe even more.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Gotta be easier on the on the joints in the moment.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, I was never I mean I was never.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Never you were swinging a hammer.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I wasn't swinging a hammer and stolen drywall, you know, plumbing. No,
it was more the management role.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
That's good, that's good man.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So I'm curious to know if the fact that you
were in the public eye do you feel like it
played a part in your divorce at all? No, because
you guys were pretty, i mean really pretty private, like
I don't you weren't constantly on social.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And yeah, yeah, you know, we went back to she
went back to her career, I went back to mind,
and you know, we would do obviously the occasional things,
the promotions. We'd have fun and show the best parts
of life on Instagram like everybody else generally does. Yeah,
I'm sure she would say the same thing. But we know,
ever felt any show or public pressure to stay together
or not tell the truth or any of that. It
(29:06):
didn't know, did you guys?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Why Why am I blanking on this? I feel like
we talked about it. Did you go on Celebrity boot
Camp or yes, yes, that's what I thought. I was like,
I feel like we probably talked about it before you
went on, just to say, okay, if you do it,
this is what you need to know going in.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It was a money grab, like it was. Three weeks
it would help, it would help pay off her loans.
Like it was. It was a pure money grab, and
we didn't have any or as seeming we didn't have
any issues at the time, and we didn't even have
We found out we were pregnant with sc while we
were there filming.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Oh no kidding, Oh my gosh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, yeah, it was really fun. Wait did
we find out we were pregnant or we found out No, sorry,
we found out she was a girl when we were there.
Oh god, she knew we were pregnant before we went
on the show, which I don't think we were supposed
to do and we did.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Whatever. Yeah, so you don't feel like it played like
any no.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, no, that that had nothing to do with that.
That was pure like, well, if they're going to pay
us this, we probably should just to consider it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Right, I can't Yeah, well, yeah, any opportunity like that.
That's kind of how we were, even not knowing what
it was going into it. I do feel like it had.
They gave us a lot of great advice, you know.
We came out of it with a couple of friends
and some good advice. But other than that, it was
kind of like.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
A vacation us.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
They passed the spectrum right, and we were at witty
one end.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Of the spectrum, you know, and then you can imagine
the other end of the spectrum being not us.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
So I wouldn't say connected with anybody. And it was
all so fast, like I could I don't remember. I mean,
I couldn't tell you one lesson I learned from it.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh gosh, okay, well it's all good ten years.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Ago, eight years ago. I mean it's our really today.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I say, first thing, it goes as the memory, guys,
it's first thing.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
And the eyes it looks blurry in the background for
all I always is okay, just make it sure. JP Man,
thank you so.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Much for joining us, and thanks for being a part
of us with us, and great to catch up on
where you're at in life. And I've always just thought
I remember you and I met years and years ago
at one of our Buddy Graham Buns things. He was
doing down and down right in the heart of Manhattan.
I remember walking away from that thing, going, God, that
guy is just as awesome as I knew he'd be
on TV. It was like, you're such assault of the
earth guy. So it's great to hear that you're doing well.
(31:39):
And I love that you and Ashley get along and
are doing it right for the kids too.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I think that's so important. So congrats on everything, buddy.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Thanks and you guys are ever in Miami, Trista, did
you get to connect with the Ashley when you were
here or no.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I did it. It was a pretty quick trip and
I tried, but she obviously was working. Yeah, and actually
I think she might have been traveling. Oh one more question,
have you met have you met her boyfriends?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Actually almost got away from this.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We don't have enough time for that. Unfortunately, we're at
a time. What a shame. No, I haven't met him,
but I hear good things and she's happy and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So okay, well, what a gentleman, and that's geez.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We hold these time, these time things, we go hard
on these.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You should have led with that conversation. I don't know
why you didn't. What a shame.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You know. I'd love to have you back on and
we'll shy to close, but that question.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I'd be happy to And if you guys have ever
gone to Miami, please please let me know.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
We will take care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
JP talk by take care.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
God.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I love that guy. They say that is he is
such assault of the earth guy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I totally agree. I remember times in New York
with him too, and and with Ashley, I mean just
getting together. Actually we got together for a Marria boot camp,
like an event that they were doing, and I got
to meet the kids when they were tiny, tiny, and
just just I was heartbroken when they broke up.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I was too that one for some reason, and I
mean I had only met them a couple of times,
but it really affected me. I remember going, oh, they've
got to be just going through it and you know.
I mean, but you know, I'm glad that they've come
out the other end of it so well. I mean,
obviously Ashly a few weeks back, she's doing great. JP's
doing great. Sounds like the kids are doing great.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So you know, there you go.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I mean, I as a parent or a child of divorce,
I feel like everything happens, you know, for a reason,
and I'm I'm proud of them for, you know, being
so great about it with each other, like just making
sure that the kids are their priority. I feel like
that's probably what I take away from how they co parent,
(33:54):
Like you said, like the kids are they're everything, So yeah,
I think they sure are important.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Family first.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Love it alright, you've been listening almost famous to OG's
our podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I loved having JP on the show, and she's been
Trista and he's been Bob. And we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Bye,
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio, almost famous
the ogs.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We're here, We're.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Back, we are back. In a fact, we have a
great og with us, my man JP.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
What's going on guys, JP?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
How are you, buddy? Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
You're very welcome. Thanks for inviting me. This is fun.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We get the old we get the old schoolers together
and we talk about, you know, walking up hill both
ways to school and how things were tougher. You know,
it's so much harder to find, you know, the perfect
match with a rose back in the day, right kind
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You gotta do it the old fashioned way, walk into
a bar, meet somebody, or the end of a friend
or come on good old days.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't know about you, guys, but you know, when
the whole app dating thing first came out, you know,
and they were always talking about it, I'm like, dude,
that's just it's ridiculous. Who would use an app to
meet someone? And they're like, hey, dummy, you went on
a TV show and handed out flowers?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Sorry, Like I did it the old fashioned way.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, we have the old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Way now it's considered the old fashioned way. Back then,
for sure, it was.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not a little bit of a renegade.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So how is life, JP, what's up?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Life is good? Life is it's pretty stable, and you know,
obviously as you get older, it gets a little more
this is the wrong word, but different, but a little
more boring. I would say, you know, it's good. You know,
like the kids kind of consume everything, and you know,
you kind of make the most of the time that
you have free, which if you were a divorced you
(01:44):
have a little more time free than when you're married.
But but either way, it's life is good. Like happy
kids are happy. I'm happy where I'm in a good
groove both socially and with work. And I don't know,
I don't have much to complain about these days. Yay.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And you're loving Miami.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm liking Miami a lot. You know, this summer was
nine years since we moved down.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's a long time.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It is a long time, I hear it. The ten
year mark is really where you start feeling like you're
at home to this. But you know it, I still
every time I go back up to New York and
I'm in the city or I'm on Long Island. It
still feels like home to me. My family, my extended
family is still up there. So I love it down here.
The quality of life is great. You know, Everyone's like, well,
(02:34):
would you move? Would you move? And the short answer
is yes, but I can't because the kids are here moving,
so I'm not moving. So I am here for good
and I am enjoying life. And it's you know, Miami
in Florida in general is really a great quality of life,
so no complaints.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I love it down there. You know, about twenty years ago,
I used to date in Miami heat dancer.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh really, okay you yeah, isn't that interest?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Wasn't it you who he danced for Kris?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Wasn't there just a reunion or something?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Was?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I got to dance it? It was so much fun.
It was so intimidating because I'm fifty years old and
I do not dance like ever, not like Ashley. Like
I know Ashley goes to like, you know, kind of
like dance classes at the gym. I didn't have that
in Veil when we were living there, so like, I
haven't danced in forever, and it was so much fun
(03:35):
to be out on the court. Blakely came with me,
my daughter and she got to meet all the girls
and be on the court too, and it was.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's like Miami is We'll always have a special place
in my heart just because I spent seven years there.
But you know, it definitely is a unique place, I
feel like, and so for me, it's good to like
get there and visit.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, you know, you know, like constantly having to wick
away the sweat because that's I'll tell you. The one
thing about Miami is it is brutal hot sometimes, you know, right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And humid, the humidity.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You know, everybody's always said the summers are so hot.
The summers are so hot. And I got to tell you,
for eight of the nine years, it never really bugged me.
You know, you moved a condition. This is the past.
Summer was brutal, though, really really bad.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Lot are you.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I go fishing as much as I possibly can, so
I'm definitely on the water a lot. Yeah, you know,
and you just kind of deal with it. It's just
it's just a part of life. And come October November
until April, you know, it's it's really gorgeous down here.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, I have to bring up the fact that on
I think on a recent story that you shared, you
were taking the kids somewhere maybe just see your family,
and they were complaining. They were not complaining about the cold,
but they were. They were freezing and it was like
eighty degrees inside.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I was up, Yeah, I was up in New York
this weekend with the kids. And if it dips below
eighty two, I mean I'm yeah, yeah, seventy eight for sure,
but somewhere from the seventy eight to eighty two range.
They are they're cold. They're just they're they're cold.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
They're so funny and they really own.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
What happens.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Remember the first time Ford saw felt snow, he was
so excited and happy and it was fun, and then
the cold hit him and he burst into tears.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well wait, so when obviously when everyone met you, obviously
it was with Ashley and your season of the bacheler
Atte and then you were living in New York at
that time, right, so you both did you both start
in New York? I thought you did, so.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I was living and working in New York. Ashley at
the time she went from her dental school at Penn
to her pediatric dental residency, which was also in Philly.
So we we moved. We were briefly in New York
together when when we when we met, and then we
moved to Jersey, which was halfway between my work and
(06:14):
her residency. Lived there for two years, and we had
the option to moved out of Miami for a minimum
of four years at that time because I had a
work a work opportunity, and we're like, if we don't
like it, we'll come back, and so we moved and
you know, nine plus years later, we're still here.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's crazy. So that was actually for you that I
don't know why.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In my mind I thought maybe that's where she was
given an opportunity to practice or whatever. So that's that's
really cool. It was so you basically were like, let's
let's do this. And so then she started her practice there.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah. So she she had lived in Hawaii for a
year and always knew she wanted to live in a
warm climate, and so this was an opportunity where we
could live in a warm climate where I didn't have
to really change much with work, and she could work
do what she does. Really, anywhere there's there's a need
for for pediatric dentists. And you know, at the time
she wasn't starting a practice, but she was joining one,
(07:09):
and there's always a need. So it seemed like a
good fit. And we weren't married to it. It was
you know, four years and minimum for me and we
could always have moved back.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But yeah, that's awesome. That is awesome. And so the
kids really only no living in Miami.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's it. Forty was born.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, amazing. Where was he born? Which hospital?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
South Miami?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So sorry I worked at a hospital, but he wouldn't
have been at the hospital. I guess they don't deliver anyway.
Uh so I have to ask, how is your health?
I know you were diagnosed with giambiera de'ambre a while ago.
How are you doing.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Very I'm impressed you pronounced that the right way.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I couldn't pronounce it. Yeah, she gets.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Out now, you know. It was I was extraordinarily lucky
where my case was diagnosed super fast. I was treated
fast and they stopped the progression fast, which is really
the key when it comes to that stuff. So my case,
although you know, I spent two months trying to walk
again in tie my shoes and button buttons and pt
(08:16):
and ot and spent some time and you know, every
day pretty much doing that stuff. There are stories where
people stop breathing and they're on a ventilator for four
months and they spend six months marking learning how to
walk again. And so there I was on the I'm
going to say easier end of the spectrum and super fortunate.
(08:36):
But you know, there's no there's I'm back to normal.
I mean I was pretty much back to normal within
a couple of months. Yeah, And the odds of me
getting it again are the same as me getting it
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, that's what I was going to ask. Is there
any chance?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, I think it's like one in one hundred and
fifty two hundred thousand something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I don't do they do they know why you contract it?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Not?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Contract is a genetic Is it? Is it a genetic thing?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
There's nothing on genetics, they say. You know, generally it
stems from your your your battling an illness the week before,
and the antibodies that are fighting that that illness then
turn on the nerves in your body. And I remember
it vividly because the week before it was our anniversary
and we were away, but like I was definitely ill
(09:20):
with some sort of stomach bug and then a week
later it happened.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So, oh my gosh, that is so crazy. I didn't
realize that about it.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, I think it's tied to like vaccines. I don't
I don't know if there's any data on that, but
but yeah, it's uh, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. So how is you know?
Obviously we have to talk about the divorce because this
is a Bachelor podcast and you guys, and I know
that people are interested in kind of knowing your story.
(10:00):
But how how are things with you? Do you guys?
Are you? I know you're amazing co parents are you guys? Friends?
Are you in touch other than like having to exchange
the kids? How is life with you?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Guys? Life is? Life is good. It's very stable. You know,
she and I it's it's it's civil. We're friendly. There's
no you know, there's you know, we don't hang out, right,
it's not like we're friends, but but there's an open
line of communication. We text or talk or some sort
(10:37):
of communication almost every day. And yes it's all kid related,
but you know, there's there's no resentment, there's no anger,
there's no sort of you know, ill will uh. You
know that actually took much longer for me to get
past than than her, for sure. But the relationship is
(10:59):
so and stable and friendly and fine, just fine. We're
making it work.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I said it when we had we had Ashley on,
I actually said it. I was like, even if you
want the divorce, divorce is still really hard, and so
it's like, you know, going through it, you're still undoing
a family to a certain degree in figuring out how
to you know, everyone says co parent, but almost like
co brand that family moving forward, like Okay, here's how
we're going to try and do this, and it's never
(11:27):
what it was. So it's always a challenge, I think,
And you know, I mean I've been a divorce guy also,
so I understand that feeling. Even though even though I
knew it was the right thing, it wasn't necessarily something
that I was all, you know, puppy dogs and ice
cream about. You know, it takes time emotionally to get
your life back, to get back in charge of your
feelings about your life and about that person one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean I think that I had a I can't
speak for her, but I know I had it. Seemingly
I had a much harder time with it post divorce
than she did. I think, you know, in her mind,
she she was there already like towards the end of
the marriage, and for me, it was just I had
I just had a really tough time, you know, for
the following year, year and a half just accepting it. Yeah,
(12:13):
not because I was still in love with her, just
because you have this image of what you want your
life and your marriage and your family to be and
that gets shattered and it's like, is this really my
new reality? And like this is not what I want?
And so it's a constant battle, you know, and emotionally mentally,
and it just took me. Took me a while to
get to get past it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, I think I was gonna say, when you're in
the public eye too, there's a little bit of at
least I went through this embarrassment, you know, like I was.
I don't know if it was I know it was
self imposed. I mean, I know I was doing it
to myself, but I was just like, oh my god,
I've let all these people down or I've done all
this kind of stuff. And I think, you know, I
think people feel that even if they're not in the
public eye.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But it definitely is sort of amped up a little
bit when you are you know.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, you know, we we've i mean, historically, we never
really felt any pressure with that, you know. I think
I think I was more I felt like I let
myself down and I let my kids down, you know,
like that I that I had that I grew up
in this seemingly perfect, you know, four person family with
my parents and my brother in the house and the
(13:21):
you know, and and I felt like I ruined that
for them initially, right, I don't feel that way now,
but I felt like I ruined that for them, and
and just accepting like is this it is?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
This?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is this?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So now I'm that guy that's divorced and now I
have two kids and looking for love again. It's just
it felt very surreal, and I didn't accept it for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how how are the kids doing with it?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
There? They've always been great with it, you know. She
we our process for divorce was very drawn out because
we had we had made the decision right before COVID hit,
and then well like, well, well, now what do we do.
We're supposed to get divorced, but the kids are coming
over from school, we sell the house like so there
was so we had a drawn out process where I was,
(14:07):
you know, living in the guest room, and then she
moved I moved out, and we sold the house. So
the whole divorce process was spread out over a year
and a half, maybe more so the kids. Yeah, it
was so the kids didn't see an abrupt uh, we're
getting divorced, momb's moving out, and it was never like that.
And plus they were also younger too, so yeah, they
(14:28):
always handled it very very well. And now they know
mom and dad are divorced and we split time and
then there's there's split days, and so they know. They've
always been accepting of it, which is one big, you know,
level of release us.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yes, I said, I think that says a lot about
you two as parents too. The I mean, you know,
I can't it's.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Probably I know it's never easy on anybody, but the
way you two handle it and the way you two
are with one another, I'm sure kind of trickles down,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
They they see mom and dad being.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Really good to one another and being carrying in sweet
people which you both are, so I'm sure that probably
helps a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, we made certainly conscious efforts to not show emotion.
I shouldn't say not your emotion, not if Ashley and
I were disagreeing or felt a certain way. It never
you know, it was never shown in front of the kids.
It was always happy. This is the way it is.
You love your mom, you love your dad, We love you.
(15:28):
It's there was always. It was always full of love,
and they wouldn't know any different, aside from the fact
that we weren't living together right good.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
In terms of social media, Ashley came on and she
talked about how afterwards she got a crap ton of
haters coming at her. Did you get the same thing,
like anything?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Like, no, no, no, I mean it was relatively quiet
post of Wars. You know, there was obviously the comments
we're here for you. I'm sorry to hear that. I mean, yeah, stuff,
I don't remember reading anything where like you. You know,
maybe there was the occasional you ruined a marriage and
(16:20):
you walked away from your kids, Like maybe there was
one occasional one of those, but it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, blow it off.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You don't really listen to it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, you take the get with the bad in those bads,
but it was.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Certainly not overwhelming. It's the point where I can't remember
any of them. Yeah, I do remember all the positive,
you know, the positive feedback that I got.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Just are you a more like positive guy? Because I
feel like Ashley and I are pretty very similar in
the fact that we're pretty sensitive and like I, if
I would get any kind of hate, like the one
out of a hundred out of a thousand, I focus
on that one. You know what I mean? Do you
feel like if you if she got like one, like
(17:02):
you were saying you might have gotten one, that she
would have more focused on that and you were.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Look, those can be overwhelming, right, You could get five
out of five thousand, and all of a sudden you
want to start responding to these people, and like they
get you all amped up. They certainly get you more
amped up than the positive ones. So sure, it's possible
that there were a handful that made it seem like
there were a lot. Look, I don't know, she didn't
really share that with me at the time, so but yeah,
(17:31):
you get that one that you really want respond to,
is like, what's the point should I really respond, does
it like you're just creating this unnecessary just stress. So
so and I probably used to be like that, but
but these days, like I just I just don't give
a crap.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I think you go through enough in life, right, you
start prioritizing the someone sitting behind a keyboard just trying
to get your you know you're going right.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You're getting a more fuel if you respond, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right, totally? Yeah, Okay, so dating are you dating?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Uh? I'm not dating anyone at the moment, kay. You know,
for I had a it's been a very interesting few
years because I was not accepting mentally and emotionally of
the divorce for for a while, and that certainly impacted
my ability to connect with women, you know. I mean
(18:31):
I remember just going out on dates just to go
through the motions because like I needed it for me,
you know. And and then I realized fairly quickly, like
I'm not ready for anything like and so and also
you know, not my twenties anymore either. So it's not
like I'm just looking to go out and have fun,
you know, Like that's that's because that's not what I
(18:53):
That's not what I want either.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So it's.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Have to be careful, I mean, and you certainly can
have a lot of fun, but not that I'm not
having fun. But you know, I'm older, I know what
I want. I'm not you know I'm not. But I
was not in a place for a while to really
get anywhere. And so, you know, for a good year
year and a half, who knows, I just I couldn't
connect Like I would meet women, I'd go out on dates,
(19:20):
and but I just couldn't get there.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Now I'm just at a place where I have connected
with women, and you know that there are there is potential,
but it comes in ways, right like like there have
been three, four or five months stints and then it
it it either fizzles or dies for some reason. That
makes a lot of sense, like oh, you're not sure
(19:46):
if you want kids, and I want kids, and there's
that whole and so but overall, I'm at least in
a good place to date these days.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Are you saying you want more kids?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I am saying that, No, I don't. I feel like
I tell I say the same thing to everyone. It's
very difficult for me to put myself in a position of,
oh my god, I'm in love with you. Of course
you want to have a kid, Yes, let's have it,
let's have a bait, Like I can't. I don't know
what my brain and my heart will feel like in
(20:19):
that moment. But I'm also but I'm not looking for
a family, like I'm not looking.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
To have kids, right, right, So you know, and that
answer is not really I mean, it's honest, but it's
not really what a lot of women want to.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Hear, like they want to be very popular on the
same page, like I want to start a family or
I like, I don't think I want that, But I
can't tell you how I will feel in that moment.
So I've had a handful that, like I just can't
continue to see you because you're just not You're just
not sure. And I'm like, I get it, you know, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's such a it's such a different I would imagine.
So I was JP, how old are you?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Forty six?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Okay, so I was.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Forty What was I forty one when I got divorced
or forty something like that? No, I was, I was
younger than that anyway, I was really I'm fifty two. Yeah,
I'm fifty two. The first thing that goes to the memory,
but I remember I was probably late thirties when I
got divorced, and I remember even then thinking to myself, like,
you know, but I didn't have children at the time,
(21:22):
and now that I do, if I put myself back
in that place, like, oh, if I'm all of a
sudden single with a couple of kids, I just don't
know what. I don't know how I would react either.
I feel like, you know, it's great that you're so
mindful about it, though. I think that's a big part
of it, right, is to know who you are and
know what you want and you know.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Be prepared to deal with however the chips fall.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I suppose, Yeah, it's definitely limiting. But at the same time,
you don't want to get involved with someone and spend three,
four or five six months and then realize like, I'm
still still don't want a kid and you still do
and now you've just wasted six months and so so yeah,
I mean, it's the only way to go these days.
I don't know, I don't know any other way to
do it. It would be a lot easier if I was,
(22:02):
you know, twenty eight to thirty two, and even if
I had a kid at that age or didn't like
it'd be a lot easier, but it's it's founding. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, so we recently had Deanna on and we were
her and I were at for me and her. How
do you say that? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
We were she and me and she and I? She
and I and yeah, because you would say because I
was at that.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
So yeahat take off the second one and how does
it sound exactly?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
There you go for the English lesson? Boys. So we
were just at the Mentel all for the current season
of The Bachelorette, and we were joking with the producers
and probably not just joking, it was probably a little
bit serious on her part, but talking about since they're
doing a Golden Bachelor, would they do a like midlife Bachelor?
(22:58):
If they did, would you ever go back?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Man, look, I don't close any doors, right, Like, Okay,
it would be very difficult to say yes to something
like that just because the logistics with the kids in
my career, I don't know what that would look like.
So just be like, no, I would never No, I
can't say that, but like I don't it's not likely.
I don't know how to make all that work. But
(23:24):
you know, the old the older I get, the more
I realize that you just like you live your life,
have fun and make the most of it, because the
older you get, the fewer opportunities there are to do
things that are unique and fun. And so, you know,
I look at my my parents that are getting older
that they're a little restricted in what they can do,
and so you know, I'm not going to say no,
(23:46):
you know, but it's certainly not what I want. Right
there were a couple of golden bats where jokes throw
in my way by the way, just saying, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm sure I will you watch? Have you seen like promos?
Will you watch? Do you watch it all?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I haven't watched in years.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean, that would be my guess. I feel like
most of the people who are in our age don't
necessarily watch these days if they've been part of the show.
I just feel like it's harder to connect with the
people who are in their twenties when you're in such
a different place in your life. So that's why I'm
excited about Gary season, you know, And I feel like
(24:30):
I can relate more to the sixty year olds than
I can twenty year olds.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
No, yeah, oh man, I hadn't thought about it. That
way before.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
You're right, if I find myself with nothing to do
on a Monday night and it's on, when I watch
a little bit of it, maybe just out of curiosity,
but certainly not setting my.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
TVR. What do they call these days? Yeah, right, recording.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Just as a funny thrill back JP.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So my my season of the my whole season of
the Bachelor, and I think Trista when I was on
Trista's season as well. My brother in law saved on
his new fangled recording device back then called TiVo. But
he's like, yeah, this is gonna be around forever. This
thing's gonna be amazing. Well, when when my wife and
I got together, she's like, well, I want to see
(25:20):
your season because I was in high school, you know.
So we put it on and we can't figure out
how to hook it into a new like the new
smart TVs. When we finally get one of the things
plugged in, it's like in black and white, which she
thought was great because she was like, you know, oh
yeah back in your day, and I'm like, whatever, dude,
it ended up being like.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Just a disaster. So yeah, when you said DVR, its
just triggered me because I'm like, oh yeah, I mean,
what is it called? These days?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You can't even get yours on YouTube, Like there's no one.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I don't think so. I don't think they made mine
into it. But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't think so either. I'll get a clip from
someone now and then, but I feel like it's like
from Hulu or something. Yeah, that's funny, something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Somebody said they replayed my season not too long ago
on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, right, but it doesn't live there, like you can't
go there whatever you want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's like, you know, appointment viewing.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think, right right, like in the communities down near
Miami that are for the elderly folk, you know, like
shuffle boards and oh crowd, you know, that's appointment viewing.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I'm going to move up to Boca for that though.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
There you go there, you go, what grades are the
kids in?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
They just started third and first?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh so you got to you got a while before
they're out of school.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah. Oh yeah. Their school only goes up to fifth grade,
so they'll have to change schools going to middle school.
But yeah, you know, I actually brought up to me
the other day for the first time, would I ever
consider moving a little bit further north in Florida, like
up to you know, for Lauderdale, Boca del Rey. And
you know, it's something that we've started talking about. Not
(27:08):
that we have to move together, but no, that's an
hour commute each direction. Yeah, we were both open to
doing it, that maybe we would do it just to
you know, get the kids in a little bit better
of a school and a different quality, different cost of
living up there. And so we'll see. Right now, we're
sticking to stay in put, and.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Your job is pretty secure. Like, didn't you just start
I feel like you just posted too. Didn't you just
start a new project?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, but but my I do so I do real
estate development in every different phase of a development. This
just happens to be one that we broke ground on
for the first time in a while.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh got it.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's down in Miami. So yeah, I would have to
come down to Miami to service some of my clients
and some of my projects down here. But you know,
people commute like Bocus as far north as I would go.
But we just started talking about it. Who knows that
it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, I remember back in the show.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You were construction management back then as well, so you yes,
I stayed in that world, huh.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I have.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I flip flopped back and forth between the construction and
the development side for for a while, and then I've
just been on the development side for I don't know,
ten twelve years at this point, maybe even more.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Gotta be easier on the on the joints in the moment.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, I was never I mean I was never.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Never you were swinging a hammer.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I wasn't swinging a hammer and stolen drywall, you know, plumbing. No,
it was more the management role.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
That's good, that's good man.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So I'm curious to know if the fact that you
were in the public eye do you feel like it
played a part in your divorce at all? No, because
you guys were pretty, i mean really pretty private, like
I don't you weren't constantly on social.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And yeah, yeah, you know, we went back to she
went back to her career, I went back to mind,
and you know, we would do obviously the occasional things,
the promotions. We'd have fun and show the best parts
of life on Instagram like everybody else generally does. Yeah,
I'm sure she would say the same thing. But we know,
ever felt any show or public pressure to stay together
or not tell the truth or any of that. It
(29:06):
didn't know, did you guys?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Why Why am I blanking on this? I feel like
we talked about it. Did you go on Celebrity boot
Camp or yes, yes, that's what I thought. I was like,
I feel like we probably talked about it before you
went on, just to say, okay, if you do it,
this is what you need to know going in.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It was a money grab, like it was. Three weeks
it would help, it would help pay off her loans.
Like it was. It was a pure money grab, and
we didn't have any or as seeming we didn't have
any issues at the time, and we didn't even have
We found out we were pregnant with sc while we
were there filming.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Oh no kidding, Oh my gosh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, yeah, it was really fun. Wait did
we find out we were pregnant or we found out No, sorry,
we found out she was a girl when we were there.
Oh god, she knew we were pregnant before we went
on the show, which I don't think we were supposed
to do and we did.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Whatever. Yeah, so you don't feel like it played like
any no.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, no, that that had nothing to do with that.
That was pure like, well, if they're going to pay
us this, we probably should just to consider it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Right, I can't Yeah, well, yeah, any opportunity like that.
That's kind of how we were, even not knowing what
it was going into it. I do feel like it had.
They gave us a lot of great advice, you know.
We came out of it with a couple of friends
and some good advice. But other than that, it was
kind of like.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
A vacation us.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
They passed the spectrum right, and we were at witty
one end.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Of the spectrum, you know, and then you can imagine
the other end of the spectrum being not us.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
So I wouldn't say connected with anybody. And it was
all so fast, like I could I don't remember. I mean,
I couldn't tell you one lesson I learned from it.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Oh gosh, okay, well it's all good ten years.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Ago, eight years ago. I mean it's our really today.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I say, first thing, it goes as the memory, guys,
it's first thing.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
And the eyes it looks blurry in the background for
all I always is okay, just make it sure. JP Man,
thank you so.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Much for joining us, and thanks for being a part
of us with us, and great to catch up on
where you're at in life. And I've always just thought
I remember you and I met years and years ago
at one of our Buddy Graham Buns things. He was
doing down and down right in the heart of Manhattan.
I remember walking away from that thing, going, God, that
guy is just as awesome as I knew he'd be
on TV. It was like, you're such assault of the
earth guy. So it's great to hear that you're doing well.
(31:39):
And I love that you and Ashley get along and
are doing it right for the kids too.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I think that's so important. So congrats on everything, buddy.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Thanks and you guys are ever in Miami, Trista, did
you get to connect with the Ashley when you were
here or no.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I did it. It was a pretty quick trip and
I tried, but she obviously was working. Yeah, and actually
I think she might have been traveling. Oh one more question,
have you met have you met her boyfriends?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Actually almost got away from this.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We don't have enough time for that. Unfortunately, we're at
a time. What a shame. No, I haven't met him,
but I hear good things and she's happy and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So okay, well, what a gentleman, and that's geez.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We hold these time, these time things, we go hard
on these.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You should have led with that conversation. I don't know
why you didn't. What a shame.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You know. I'd love to have you back on and
we'll shy to close, but that question.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I'd be happy to And if you guys have ever
gone to Miami, please please let me know.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
We will take care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
JP talk by take care.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
God.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I love that guy. They say that is he is
such assault of the earth guy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I totally agree. I remember times in New York
with him too, and and with Ashley, I mean just
getting together. Actually we got together for a Marria boot camp,
like an event that they were doing, and I got
to meet the kids when they were tiny, tiny, and
just just I was heartbroken when they broke up.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I was too that one for some reason, and I
mean I had only met them a couple of times,
but it really affected me. I remember going, oh, they've
got to be just going through it and you know.
I mean, but you know, I'm glad that they've come
out the other end of it so well. I mean,
obviously Ashly a few weeks back, she's doing great. JP's
doing great. Sounds like the kids are doing great.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So you know, there you go.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I mean, I as a parent or a child of divorce,
I feel like everything happens, you know, for a reason,
and I'm I'm proud of them for, you know, being
so great about it with each other, like just making
sure that the kids are their priority. I feel like
that's probably what I take away from how they co parent,
(33:54):
Like you said, like the kids are they're everything, So yeah,
I think they sure are important.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Family first.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Love it alright, you've been listening almost famous to OG's
our podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I loved having JP on the show, and she's been
Trista and he's been Bob. And we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Bye,
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