September 12, 2025 • 34 mins
Ashley’s here to share her hot takes on the breaking news in Bachelor Nation!
Find out what she REALLY thinks about Taylor Frankie Paul as our next Bachelorette and what it means for “soft swinging” to hit the world of The Bachelor.
Plus, we get Ashley’s reaction to the women hoping to capture the heart of Mel Owens in the next season of The Golden Bachelor!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Mans podcast. Today Ben
isn't here, but I am joined by our producers and
our sound engineer, Easton and Heather, and they're gonna give
some of their opinions on the big news of the
day of the week. This week, it was announced that
Taylor Frankie Paul is the new Bachelorette for season twenty two.
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If you don't know who she is, or you didn't
know who she is, you probably know who she is now.
She is famous for two things. First, she was an influencer,
kind of famous on her own via Instagram and TikTok,
kind of one of, as she likes to say, the
founders of mom talk. And she is also on the
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real The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She's a thirty
one year old Utah native, and after completing airing two
seasons of Mormon Wives, she's now doing a Hulu crossover,
basically an ABC Hulu crossover, and she's going to be
the lead of this show. It makes a lot of
sense to me. When I first saw this announcement, I
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was thinking it was a very good idea I have
a little bit more of mixed feelings. Now we'll get
to that in a second. I do want to just
break down her a little bit more. Her announcement, particularly
a little bit more so. It was a couple days ago,
the day before he announcement. Two days before her announcement,
that Call Her Daddy's, Alex Cooper posted on the Call
(01:37):
Her Daddy Instagram that she was there was like, there's
a cake on it and it said season thirty, Season thirty. Yeah,
because people were bracing for season thirty of The Bachelor
to be announced. And then she slices open the cake
as if it's a gender reveal and it's pink, which
kind of gave all of us sleuth's hints that perhaps
(02:00):
a Bachelorette season was going to be announced instead of
a Bachelor season. And then we also thought, Okay, Alex
Cooper's probably going to handle this announcement. Seems like it's
an all around ABC Hulu announcement because we know that
Alex Cooper just got her own show with Hulu and
they're kind of keeping this in the family. Also, she
did a really big interview with Rachel Kirconnell. It just
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kind of made sense for her to get the first
interview with the new lead seems based on the Instagram
that it was going to be a Bachelorette, and that's
when people started speculating that it would be kind of
a stunt casting, that it may not necessarily be somebody
from the franchise's past. When I saw people speculating, my
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first thought when I saw that name, when I was
Taylor Frigi Paul I was like, that's who it's going
to be. Twenty four hours later, it was announced that
she's indeed the Bachelorette, and like I said, my initial
thought was, this makes so much sense. This is so
good for the franchise, so good for the network and
for audience numbers because the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
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so freaking popular. People love that show. It has the
same demographic as the Bachelor. We've seen so many times
them like put the show on after Bachelor Bachelorette, or
they promote the crap out of the show on Bachelor Bachelorette.
There's so much twisted up because they know the demographic
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is so similar. There's people who watch the Secret Lives
of Mormon Wives that probably have watched Bachelor in the past,
but maybe have taken a break from him. And then
there's probably people now who have only watched Secret Lives
and Mormon Wives, and now they're going to end up
watching the Bachelorette. The crossover audience is so so good
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for numbers. I think they're going to get back a
lot of viewers that have dropped off, and they're gonna
get a lot of new viewers because of this. Now,
I think the more I saw comments about her being
named the Bachelorette, I started thinking, Okay, so it's actually
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more controversial than I thought because I have never watched
Secret Lives Mormon Wives. Now, guess what I'm gonna be
watching it. I'm gonna watch all those seasons before the
series the Bachelorette airs for sure. Like last night I
was lying in bed, I was like, I don't feel
like watching the summer I turn pretty right now, I'll
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just watch something in the background and guess what that was?
Gonna be Secret Lives, Right, So they're also getting Bachelor
viewers who have never watched Mormon Wives to watch Mormon
Wives all over. Great network decision. I'm going on and
on and on. But what I started seeing about her
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as a figure. It's a bit more controvers and people
were Actually some people are not excited for two reasons. One,
lots of wele not excited that somebody from the Bachelor
franchise isn't getting this position. I totally understand that. I
think right now ABC's trying to they had to get
a stunt cast. They really need to get somebody who
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is more of a celebrity than some of the girls
that could be up for consideration as the bachelorette. Rachel
Kirconnell is the main one to me, and I think
Susie was the other main one. I think some people
will throw Maria in there, but I think she has
been no offense to Maria a little more forgotten over
the past year. So I think when you think about
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Susie and you think about Rachel Kirconnell, you're like, those
two are great options. Totally agree with that. Would love
to see either of them as bachelorette. But I don't
know how many new viewers are going to get from that.
I think they're going to get new viewers with this,
So I understand, Like, I get you guys who are saying,
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like you want to keep it inside the family. I
love to keep things inside the family. I am a
Bachelor family member, you know what I mean. And I
don't really know this girl, but I can get past that.
The second thing that is controversial amongst Bachelor fans hearing
this announcement is that she has a misdemeanor for domestic assault.
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I want to read this like off so that I'm
precise about it. In February twenty twenty three, Taylor was
arrested on misdemeanor charges of assault, criminal mischief, and commission
of domestic violence in the presence of a child. She
pleaded guilty in August twenty twenty three to aggravate assault,
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and the other charges were dismissed, per The New York Post.
She said on Nick Viall's podcast in the same month,
she said, I want to be better for my kids,
and I feel like right now that's my top priority.
All I want is for them to be happy. Sarah
Harren post said something yesterday that I screenshot because I
thought this was poignant. This was the details of the
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domestic violence incident. It says a video obtained by police
show Paul putting her boyfriend Dakota in a chokehold and
throwing chairs during an argument, a child was struck by
one of the metal barstools that she threw. It hit
her in the head, a two year old her two
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year old daughter in the head, causing a painful bump. Oh, no,
there was a baby. It was a baby. It was
a younger than a two year old. It hit her
young daughter in the head, causing a painful bump, and
a two year old was also in the home at
the time when the police arrived. According to the probable
cause statement, officers observed Paul hitting Dakota her boyfriend after
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they arrived home, and she admitted to throwing furniture. So
that's what I'm going to bring our panel in Heather Easton.
Do you guys watch Mormon Wives? Are you privy to
this information? I was like, gosh, because guess what if
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a guy had done this, the double standard would have been.
We would never have a guy who had done this
as the lead of the show.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I hear where you're coming from, and I think in
a normal situation, yes, of a lead for the show,
that would be huge. I will say, as a longtime
viewer of Mormon Wives, this all is shown. Actually, the
police bodycam footage. Portions of it are shown actually in
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the very first episode of season one. It is addressed
from the jump.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, it's not hidden. I totally understand that yet.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, she does talk about in the first season of
the show. I think that I don't think anybody would
condone what she did, but I think that she has
taken accountability for it, and I think that in that stance,
I'm open as a viewer to seeing her still gain
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opportunities because I've watched her on the show really feel
a lot of remorse and guilt for that evening.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, obviously, like the argument with the boyfriend is one thing.
Getting hostile with the boyfriend bad, Yeah thing, Definitely, it's
the children present to me. To me, it hits on
them that the children are present, and one got hit
like she was so she so disregarded them in that
moment that that makes me that's very concerning.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think it's valid what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I was thinking about this, like, do we does the
lead of the bachelor or a bachelorette have to be.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like perfect?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, Like like you know, like is this someone that
we look to as like a moral standard. I mean,
obviously we don't want to have like a full blown
hardcore criminal like on the show, but also like I
don't know, I am. I think it's horrible and and
and you know, I condemn what she did. I think
it's this terrible, but I also think that it will
(10:22):
be interesting to see someone go through this process that
has been through something terrible like this and is hopefully
going to find some redemption. Yeah, I was thinking about
what I was thinking about what you said earlier about
like the going outside the Bachelor family and like this
is the first time. Is this the first time this
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has happened where it's been someone like like since the
early days.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Right, thank you for bringing that up. First bachelorette that
hasn't been part of the family. Bachelors used to be
chosen outside the family.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Like I remember, I can't remember when a couple of
years ago there was like rumors that it was going
to be Courtney card or something like there was like
and I know Chloe, that's right, Like, yeah, never in
a million years, I don't think what she do that,
but like everyone was really excited about that idea. And
I think that this is going to get a lot
of people that wouldn't normally like I mean even saying
it like it's going to bring a lot of people
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who didn't normally watch the show. I think it is.
It is really exciting to see it because sometimes I
think it's easy to think of The Bachelor as like
existing in this like isolated universe, and this reminds me like,
oh no, there's other There's people that can come from
all over him do this.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
It's like when you watch Captain American iron Man team
up to fight a bad guy. It's like, oh my god,
this can happen.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like Avengers, like because it's
crossover show. And I really do like that. I think
it was creative, and I think that's something that we've
been asking them to do for a while. Be like,
if you want you spike this thing, you have to
get a stunt cast or you find like a diamond
in the rough, like Joey, who was just the perfect
the perfect lead.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I will say too, just because we've had him on
the pod cast. But Graham Bunn and some others have
confirmed to us that even back in the day, the
producers were courting uh Chrishelle Strauss, who everybody knows now
from selling Sunset. But back then she was a soap actress.
So it's not like they haven't dipped their toe in
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and tried to make something.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Like this happen throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
This is just the first time we're actually seeing it
come to fruition.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes, definitely. I mean I feel like they started they
kind of like pretended that like Baldwin, this is one
of the Baldwin brothers, right.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Oh my god, I don't remember that, but I wouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Sur that was like in the two thousands. I think
he was one of the Baldwin brothers. I don't think
it was a coincidence his last name was Baldwin. But yeah,
so guys, that is your new bachelorette. I'm sure we're
going to have so many more developing ainions on this
whole thing. I do think it's great that she had
in June posted something about her being the bachelorette. It's
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a great TikTok. You should watch it. I remember in
June watching it being like, oh, this is that girl
from that show, right, And I was like, that's cute,
that's clever. And I'm wondering whether that's when they started
thinking about it, whether that was something that like, was
that a sign, an early sign where they already thinking
about it. It looks like Heather hasn't felt.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So I can tell you on this what I do
know just from knowing people on the casting side of
this season.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It totally was what flipped everything.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
They were highly they were hired to cast the Bachelor,
that was the focus for the entire crew that was
working on that show. And then when that TikTok. I
have heard differing things, so I don't when that around
the time that TikTok came out, I've heard both that.
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I think she said on Call Her Daddy that producers
reached out to her. I've heard that her team reached
out to producers. But that's what flipped around that time,
what flipped the casting to switch over to a bachelorette
because if you remember too, we had just gotten fully
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green lit for thirty season thirty of The Bachelor, and
that's when as un as that came out, that's when
casting went public, and so they wouldn't have done that
if the intention was to do a season of the Bachelorette.
Like this was definitely a switch up after the fact.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Super interesting, but you know, it makes sense we were
due for a bachelorette and not a bachelor anyway. Yep.
And I think people are happy because they're like, Okay,
that was unfair to the girls, so just skip out
on a bachelorette season.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I did say more thing about this.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I feel like we saw a lot of the negativity
right in the comments. I just want to bring up
something and get your take on this, But say, like
for Grant and Juliana right when that breakup happened, if
you guys remember a lot of the comments I saw.
And I've seen this with past seasons where nobody's gonna last,
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they're in their twenties, cast older, get people that really
want to get married all of those things right, And
here we have she's thirty one, who's thirty one, who
has three children, who's already been married and is divorced.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I think personally.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That this is actually somebody that is more inclined to
find a lasting relationship or an actual marriage versus what
we've been seeing in past seasons of twenty somethings who
don't really know what they want when they come on
the show.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know. I think you guys agree to agree
on that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, she's definitely gonna look, I believe for something more serious.
She definitely talks in the Call Her Daddy episode about
being like I cannot call her a serial monogamous, but
she's into relationships. She's certainly not a serial monogamous. Because
that brings us into our next topic, which is her
soft swinging scandal. I'm catching up on this as I
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have not watched Secret Lives. I will be you guys,
as I'm catching I'm gonna do it. This is gonna
be fun. But she and I like the fact that
I'm going to be able to get to know the
bachelorette so deeply with having two and I think maybe
three seasons airing before her season will be airing. But
the thing that started the whole show was this soft
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swinging scandal. Basically, she and her husband had an agreement
that they weren't going to go all the way with
somebody else, but she did step out of that agreement. Okay,
so she cheated on him. It led to their divorce,
and then after all of that, she ended up getting
with this guy, Dakota, who's very well known on her show,
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and she ends up having a child. Ever with Dakota,
in September twenty twenty three. Oh, she announced it in
twenty twenty three, and she had the baby March twenty
twenty four. So and Dakota is the one that she
has legal issues with. So, Guys, where I'm going with
this is they're swinging involved, and I think that people
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are going to be like, all right, is swinging going
to be involved in a future relationship Mormons? I mean,
I know it's a sort of taboo. It may be
a misunderstanding of sorts to some, but some do believe
in polygamy, and some are polygamists and some aren't. And
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I can't say I'm an expert on all this, so
I'm sorry if I'm an offensive it in any way.
But I'm wondering what her situation with polygamy is going forward.
Has she talked about on the show Heather Anyston.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
We should clarify that polygamy is not is like being married.
Polyamory is what we're talking about, I think, because that's
like having romantic encounters with more than one person. Polygamy
is like being married to more, which is illegal.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And oh thank you, okay, polygamy married? Well, isn't it
just like isn't like a thrupple polygamy you don't have
to be married. No, that's having a third person in
the relationship.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Polygamy is structured in religion, like they do it because
of the scripture that they read and believe in the
got be married to multiple women?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, So polyamory is like having sex with other people and.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Being open about it. Like, yeah, smory is about having
multiple partners. And everybody's aware.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That polygamy and polyamory, yes, two different things. Yes, oh
no way.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Ethical non monogamy is another one yet I'm not sure
what the definition of that one is.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But oh my gosh, guys. Okay, So does she talk
on the show Secret Wives, Secret Live, Secret Wives about
her future in having multiple hookup partners or yeah, because
she's not into Mary, She's not into having a husband
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that has multiple wives. Correct, That is correct, But swinging
is that in her future.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It seems to be that swinging has become off the
table since this situation. Her and Dakota have been very
on and off since all of this, But she is
not expressed about on the show about looking for somebody
that's interested in swinging. It's more like She's interested in
finding somebody and not having the swinging being held against her.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Is what it's like. Okay, all right, all right? So
that is that for Taylor on this podcast, and we
will have so many more thoughts and opinions soon, and
I as I watch Secret Lives, I will update you
guys on how I think she'll be as a lead,
how I think she is as a personality. I'll be
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judge in.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
This moment right now, Ashley, after talking it through, what's
your gut? Say right now? Are you interested in her
as the lead? Are you still? Are you citing with
Bachelor Nation in our negative comments and saying you're not interested?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, I was actually stunned by the amount of negative comments,
were you. I think that ABC's also taken aback by
the negative comments. I think that they thought this is
going to be like majority well received.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm going to say our group chat at work was
lighting up with people saying that they're thrilled about it.
I would say negative comments in general tend to speak
louder on the Internet than anywhere else, but I think
it's where you get your source, right. I think if
you probably went to her page, people were lighting up
the comments excited to see it, but if you went
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on somewhere else you might see negative comments.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So I think it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But overall, people, personal people in my life are excited
about this.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And like an example I like to bring up is
like Ashley. You know my wife Allison, she's been She's
been around Bachelor people for many many years with respect,
she has had zero interest in the show until now.
Like she is a more secret lives a Mormon Wives fan.
She can't wait she will be watching Bachelorette this year.
She's pumped.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, my gut says that I am happy that this
decision was made because I think it's what's best for
the franchise and I want the franchise to thrive and
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I think that this will get give it a boost. Agree,
I'm happy about it, all right. And if you guys
want to know more about Taylor's decision and all of
her plans as being the Bachelorette, listen to call her
Daddy interview. It's about an hour long, all right. And
now the Golden Bachelorette. The Golden Bachelor cast was announced
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this week that the pictures and the bios have all
been released online. There's a podcast where Ben and Susan
broke it all down, so you guys can go check
that out. Now it's time for me to give my
quick predictions on this by just a quick swipe up
and down of this cast list. I have three women
that I think are going to be standouts. My Lynn,
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the casino VIP hosts from Las Vegas. She knows four languages.
I think that just I'm this is based on looks alone.
You guys know that this is what we do. It's
a very vain segment of our show. I think that
she might be coming across as the sexiest and knowing
what we know about Mel, I do think that attractiveness
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there's gonna be like a big component of physicality with
this man. He talked about not being attracted to people
like above the age of forty five. And I think
that she presents herself in just this one photo in
a very sexy way, and then she's a Vegas girl,
Like I just think that like he's going to be
pretty wooed by her. Then there is Nicole. She's from Miami.
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She's very into health. We know that Mel is also
very into health. He really wanted to a woman who's
like was in shape and like again into aesthetics, but
also into physical health. He is an former NFL player.
I think that he made athleticism part of his life
through and through. This lady seems into that and again
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also presents younger than her actual age. I'm sorry, I
don't have the cast up, Heather. Do you see what's
her age? Off hand? It's like sixty two or something.
Hold on, she is sixty five four, sixty four. She
doesn't not look sixty four. She's a hot lady. Think
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that he's going to be into that. Then. My last
person on this list, and I think this could be
a very serious contender, is Maya Maia Maya. Would you
say that Maya Maya, Maya Maya. Okay, yeah, this woman
is below the technical I want to call it a
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technical age set of sixty. On Gary season, we saw
nobody below sixty. On Jones season, we only saw Mark
under sixty. He was fifty seven, and he was obviously
on because he was Kelsey's dad and already a fan favorite.
We let him slide on that soft rule. This woman, Maya,
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she is fifty eight and she is she looks good.
She's also a college sports consultant. She's had sports as
part of her life her entire way through, with her
boys and everything. There's a reason she let they let
her slip through at this age, and that's because they
think that she is so compatible with him. So I'm
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excited to see where all that goes. Everybody likes me
to choose a villain from photos, too, which is kind
of hard, not my favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
What about maybe instead of villain, somebody who's gonna be
a stir or overly aggressive maybe in their approach.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
All right, we might go with Terry. I can see
Terry having a little aggression. Let's go with that. You
guys know that I hate basing things off of It
makes me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's all in fun.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I know it's in fun. Diane, She's gonna be a firecracker.
She's kind of like got a spiky cut.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I do love your predictions because it's so funny having
you and been doing this separately to see how in
sync you guys are, because I think two out of
your three that you chose are also the same that
he chose.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I love that we should have her separately more often.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's so funny. He absolutely loves my limb. He loves her.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, and he liked Nicole, So like, okay, there we
just know Mel. We don't really know Mel. We've been
very judging towards Mel. But like, if we're going with
a guy who's basically just gonna make this about Hattyvatati's, like,
those are two Hattyvatatis. So there we go.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I think Lisa could have a strong possibility as well.
I think she's really pretty state park employee from Ohio, blonde.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yes, she yes, I can see him. She has like
a Suzanne Summer's look. I can see that.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I also think Debbie, who's sixty five fitness professional from Denver,
all very fitness oriented, short brunette hair, I think she's
another strong contender as well.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay, yes, okay, she caught my eye as well. I
was going to add her to the list, but then
I scrolled down further and I saw more top three.
All right, let's get into the show. The other show
that we have going on, and that is the home
renovation show, Big Big News. I think the HGTV show
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is starting to film this week, and someone that we
think has been a shoe in for this show posted
this week that he just landed in la and he
will call it home for the next month. It is
Tyler Cameron. It is so obvious that he will be
part of the show. He's whole Instagram and business is
(27:39):
around home renovation. He's even doing real estate with Ryan
Sarin and yeah, so we think that Tyler is definitely
there as the host of this show. And then very
interesting Alisha Alisha whatever you call her from this past
season a Bachelor in Paradise. She was very crypti and why.
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She said that she had business opportunities that are keeping
her and Sean from focusing on their relationship. She said
she had to. It had to do with her interior
design background, and she wouldn't say more than that. So
my guess is that she will be one of the
contestants on the show. If you guys don't remember, the
format is that there will be bachelor contestants competing to
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like renovate the house in their own ways. I guess,
do we know if it's a competition, like they will
be showing their chops basically and like saying this is
how I decorate this room, That's how I decorate that room,
and then like at the end of it all or
midway through, one person is crowned as the renovator of
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the show, and then they will go forward with their
decore plans.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So if they're doing it like the way they did
the Brady Bunch Home Renovation show, it's gonna be everybody.
If they do it this way, it'll be people assigned
to specific rooms, and throughout the course of the season
you'll see all the renovations kind of happening at once,
with the giant reveal of the finished product at the end,
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and then one winner being announced.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
When winter being announced as like, what, like, what's their prize.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
They're a cash prize for this show.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh, it's a cash prize. But then like, are we
going to keep the house decorated the way that they
wanted it decorated.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I think that's like still.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
To that's new because Brady Bunch, They're not like going
to go film the Brady Bunch in the house.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, I mean the Brady Bunch House, right. They also
were trying to recreate it to look like the set,
So you have very specific ways that you need to do.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
That with this.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think that's what part of the what we don't
know about this show is like, will each room.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Have a theme?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Will certain rooms be switching spots in the mansion? I
don't know how you know deep they're gonna get with
knocking down build knocking down walls or is this just
more of like a visual refresh of the house. Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Also something to make note of is that they're filming
this show for the next month, So let's just say
that takes us to the second week of October. Does
that mean that right away will be starting to film
Taylor's season? I think yes, But I also think that's
getting us really close down to Thanksgiving time. So actually
(30:21):
I'm gonna say probably not. I don't know when her
season will start filming unless they do a sped up version,
unless they don't do it at the Mansion at first.
Maybe they end at the mansion and they go travel first.
Because usually Thanksgiving to Christmas is a big heart New
Year's is a big hard no for production. They like
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did Winter Games for ten days at the beginning of December,
but they're not going to have a season run into Thanksgiving,
and normally the season would start filming the week of
September twenty something. So what's your take on that Heather.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I'm I'm interested too, because right the only Bachelorette mom
that I can remember is Emily Maynard.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I know that they had to make special you know.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Filming they did. They shot it in North Carolina, and
I loved that they did it in North Carolina. And
I think for further promotion of Mormon wives, I say,
why not just start at her house?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
And she's got three kids, so that's I think a
lot to uproot and take them to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Not saying it couldn't be.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Done, but I think, yeah, that maybe maybe the show
starts out in Utah and moves filming to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know. Yeah, I think that is the way
that they should do it. I think it's too long,
This is not too this is not shaving Taylor at all.
I don't think she's going to go two months without
seeing your kids now. I think that she will. She
would not want to do that for that reason, So
I think they're growing to accommodate her in some way.
I think it makes sense to start it in Utah,
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get a big, fancy mountain house out there, that'll be
a great start, and then like maybe have like a
cool reveal for the proposal or the Final four or
fantasy suites. I don't know how much ABC is going
to let the HGTV show integrate into them.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You know, that's that's a good thing to bring up.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I know that you just speculated earlier that you think
Tyler Cameron is going to be the host. I'm guessing
he's a contestant. Really yeah, And I'll say, because I
think HGTV is going to make their HGTV talent the
hosts of the shows.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, okay, that makes sense. And we want to see Taylor's,
Tyler's work in action.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Tylor's work.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, It's like, sorry, did I say Taylor too? I
know I learned, but yeah, I think, like, right, we're
going to see the Property Brothers in there.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I'm yeah, we're going.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
To see maybe the Taric and you know, Flip or
floor couple coming in there and doing some stuff, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And I think they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Working alongside some of these Bachelor alum that will be.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
There for the duration of filming.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
What I do like is that it doesn't sound like
it's competition elimination. I am concerned after the Paradise prize.
If this prize money is going to be a little lackluster,
but I guess I want to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I don't think it's gonna hit the six digits.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's definitely not going to be five hundred thousand. That
is not going to be an HGTV prize cash.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But I'm definitely going to watch.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I will say, yeah, I'll definitely watch too. It may
not be a week to weeks hitch, but like it'll
definitely be on in a stream format.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah agree.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Alrighty well, Heather, thank you so much for all your
opinions and for just your expertise and all this you
are so up to. You just know your okay, and
I love that for me and I love you for it,
and guys, we will talk to you very very soon
and hope Ben will be back with me. And until then,
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I've been Ashley and I've been Heather. See y'all.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Mans podcast. Today Ben
isn't here, but I am joined by our producers and
our sound engineer, Easton and Heather, and they're gonna give
some of their opinions on the big news of the
day of the week. This week, it was announced that
Taylor Frankie Paul is the new Bachelorette for season twenty two.
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If you don't know who she is, or you didn't
know who she is, you probably know who she is now.
She is famous for two things. First, she was an influencer,
kind of famous on her own via Instagram and TikTok,
kind of one of, as she likes to say, the
founders of mom talk. And she is also on the
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real The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She's a thirty
one year old Utah native, and after completing airing two
seasons of Mormon Wives, she's now doing a Hulu crossover,
basically an ABC Hulu crossover, and she's going to be
the lead of this show. It makes a lot of
sense to me. When I first saw this announcement, I
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was thinking it was a very good idea I have
a little bit more of mixed feelings. Now we'll get
to that in a second. I do want to just
break down her a little bit more. Her announcement, particularly
a little bit more so. It was a couple days ago,
the day before he announcement. Two days before her announcement,
that Call Her Daddy's, Alex Cooper posted on the Call
(01:37):
Her Daddy Instagram that she was there was like, there's
a cake on it and it said season thirty, Season thirty. Yeah,
because people were bracing for season thirty of The Bachelor
to be announced. And then she slices open the cake
as if it's a gender reveal and it's pink, which
kind of gave all of us sleuth's hints that perhaps
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a Bachelorette season was going to be announced instead of
a Bachelor season. And then we also thought, Okay, Alex
Cooper's probably going to handle this announcement. Seems like it's
an all around ABC Hulu announcement because we know that
Alex Cooper just got her own show with Hulu and
they're kind of keeping this in the family. Also, she
did a really big interview with Rachel Kirconnell. It just
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kind of made sense for her to get the first
interview with the new lead seems based on the Instagram
that it was going to be a Bachelorette, and that's
when people started speculating that it would be kind of
a stunt casting, that it may not necessarily be somebody
from the franchise's past. When I saw people speculating, my
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first thought when I saw that name, when I was
Taylor Frigi Paul I was like, that's who it's going
to be. Twenty four hours later, it was announced that
she's indeed the Bachelorette, and like I said, my initial
thought was, this makes so much sense. This is so
good for the franchise, so good for the network and
for audience numbers because the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
(03:10):
so freaking popular. People love that show. It has the
same demographic as the Bachelor. We've seen so many times
them like put the show on after Bachelor Bachelorette, or
they promote the crap out of the show on Bachelor Bachelorette.
There's so much twisted up because they know the demographic
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is so similar. There's people who watch the Secret Lives
of Mormon Wives that probably have watched Bachelor in the past,
but maybe have taken a break from him. And then
there's probably people now who have only watched Secret Lives
and Mormon Wives, and now they're going to end up
watching the Bachelorette. The crossover audience is so so good
(03:54):
for numbers. I think they're going to get back a
lot of viewers that have dropped off, and they're gonna
get a lot of new viewers because of this. Now,
I think the more I saw comments about her being
named the Bachelorette, I started thinking, Okay, so it's actually
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more controversial than I thought because I have never watched
Secret Lives Mormon Wives. Now, guess what I'm gonna be
watching it. I'm gonna watch all those seasons before the
series the Bachelorette airs for sure. Like last night I
was lying in bed, I was like, I don't feel
like watching the summer I turn pretty right now, I'll
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just watch something in the background and guess what that was?
Gonna be Secret Lives, Right, So they're also getting Bachelor
viewers who have never watched Mormon Wives to watch Mormon
Wives all over. Great network decision. I'm going on and
on and on. But what I started seeing about her
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as a figure. It's a bit more controvers and people
were Actually some people are not excited for two reasons. One,
lots of wele not excited that somebody from the Bachelor
franchise isn't getting this position. I totally understand that. I
think right now ABC's trying to they had to get
a stunt cast. They really need to get somebody who
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is more of a celebrity than some of the girls
that could be up for consideration as the bachelorette. Rachel
Kirconnell is the main one to me, and I think
Susie was the other main one. I think some people
will throw Maria in there, but I think she has
been no offense to Maria a little more forgotten over
the past year. So I think when you think about
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Susie and you think about Rachel Kirconnell, you're like, those
two are great options. Totally agree with that. Would love
to see either of them as bachelorette. But I don't
know how many new viewers are going to get from that.
I think they're going to get new viewers with this,
So I understand, Like, I get you guys who are saying,
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like you want to keep it inside the family. I
love to keep things inside the family. I am a
Bachelor family member, you know what I mean. And I
don't really know this girl, but I can get past that.
The second thing that is controversial amongst Bachelor fans hearing
this announcement is that she has a misdemeanor for domestic assault.
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I want to read this like off so that I'm
precise about it. In February twenty twenty three, Taylor was
arrested on misdemeanor charges of assault, criminal mischief, and commission
of domestic violence in the presence of a child. She
pleaded guilty in August twenty twenty three to aggravate assault,
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and the other charges were dismissed, per The New York Post.
She said on Nick Viall's podcast in the same month,
she said, I want to be better for my kids,
and I feel like right now that's my top priority.
All I want is for them to be happy. Sarah
Harren post said something yesterday that I screenshot because I
thought this was poignant. This was the details of the
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domestic violence incident. It says a video obtained by police
show Paul putting her boyfriend Dakota in a chokehold and
throwing chairs during an argument, a child was struck by
one of the metal barstools that she threw. It hit
her in the head, a two year old her two
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year old daughter in the head, causing a painful bump. Oh, no,
there was a baby. It was a baby. It was
a younger than a two year old. It hit her
young daughter in the head, causing a painful bump, and
a two year old was also in the home at
the time when the police arrived. According to the probable
cause statement, officers observed Paul hitting Dakota her boyfriend after
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they arrived home, and she admitted to throwing furniture. So
that's what I'm going to bring our panel in Heather Easton.
Do you guys watch Mormon Wives? Are you privy to
this information? I was like, gosh, because guess what if
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a guy had done this, the double standard would have been.
We would never have a guy who had done this
as the lead of the show.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I hear where you're coming from, and I think in
a normal situation, yes, of a lead for the show,
that would be huge. I will say, as a longtime
viewer of Mormon Wives, this all is shown. Actually, the
police bodycam footage. Portions of it are shown actually in
(08:45):
the very first episode of season one. It is addressed
from the jump.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, it's not hidden. I totally understand that yet.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, she does talk about in the first season of
the show. I think that I don't think anybody would
condone what she did, but I think that she has
taken accountability for it, and I think that in that stance,
I'm open as a viewer to seeing her still gain
(09:16):
opportunities because I've watched her on the show really feel
a lot of remorse and guilt for that evening.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, obviously, like the argument with the boyfriend is one thing.
Getting hostile with the boyfriend bad, Yeah thing, Definitely, it's
the children present to me. To me, it hits on
them that the children are present, and one got hit
like she was so she so disregarded them in that
moment that that makes me that's very concerning.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think it's valid what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I was thinking about this, like, do we does the
lead of the bachelor or a bachelorette have to be.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like perfect?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, Like like you know, like is this someone that
we look to as like a moral standard. I mean,
obviously we don't want to have like a full blown
hardcore criminal like on the show, but also like I
don't know, I am. I think it's horrible and and
and you know, I condemn what she did. I think
it's this terrible, but I also think that it will
(10:22):
be interesting to see someone go through this process that
has been through something terrible like this and is hopefully
going to find some redemption. Yeah, I was thinking about
what I was thinking about what you said earlier about
like the going outside the Bachelor family and like this
is the first time. Is this the first time this
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has happened where it's been someone like like since the
early days.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Right, thank you for bringing that up. First bachelorette that
hasn't been part of the family. Bachelors used to be
chosen outside the family.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Like I remember, I can't remember when a couple of
years ago there was like rumors that it was going
to be Courtney card or something like there was like
and I know Chloe, that's right, Like, yeah, never in
a million years, I don't think what she do that,
but like everyone was really excited about that idea. And
I think that this is going to get a lot
of people that wouldn't normally like I mean even saying
it like it's going to bring a lot of people
(11:14):
who didn't normally watch the show. I think it is.
It is really exciting to see it because sometimes I
think it's easy to think of The Bachelor as like
existing in this like isolated universe, and this reminds me like,
oh no, there's other There's people that can come from
all over him do this.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
It's like when you watch Captain American iron Man team
up to fight a bad guy. It's like, oh my god,
this can happen.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like Avengers, like because it's
crossover show. And I really do like that. I think
it was creative, and I think that's something that we've
been asking them to do for a while. Be like,
if you want you spike this thing, you have to
get a stunt cast or you find like a diamond
in the rough, like Joey, who was just the perfect
the perfect lead.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I will say too, just because we've had him on
the pod cast. But Graham Bunn and some others have
confirmed to us that even back in the day, the
producers were courting uh Chrishelle Strauss, who everybody knows now
from selling Sunset. But back then she was a soap actress.
So it's not like they haven't dipped their toe in
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and tried to make something.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Like this happen throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
This is just the first time we're actually seeing it
come to fruition.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes, definitely. I mean I feel like they started they
kind of like pretended that like Baldwin, this is one
of the Baldwin brothers, right.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Oh my god, I don't remember that, but I wouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Sur that was like in the two thousands. I think
he was one of the Baldwin brothers. I don't think
it was a coincidence his last name was Baldwin. But yeah,
so guys, that is your new bachelorette. I'm sure we're
going to have so many more developing ainions on this
whole thing. I do think it's great that she had
in June posted something about her being the bachelorette. It's
(13:09):
a great TikTok. You should watch it. I remember in
June watching it being like, oh, this is that girl
from that show, right, And I was like, that's cute,
that's clever. And I'm wondering whether that's when they started
thinking about it, whether that was something that like, was
that a sign, an early sign where they already thinking
about it. It looks like Heather hasn't felt.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So I can tell you on this what I do
know just from knowing people on the casting side of
this season.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It totally was what flipped everything.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
They were highly they were hired to cast the Bachelor,
that was the focus for the entire crew that was
working on that show. And then when that TikTok. I
have heard differing things, so I don't when that around
the time that TikTok came out, I've heard both that.
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I think she said on Call Her Daddy that producers
reached out to her. I've heard that her team reached
out to producers. But that's what flipped around that time,
what flipped the casting to switch over to a bachelorette
because if you remember too, we had just gotten fully
(14:21):
green lit for thirty season thirty of The Bachelor, and
that's when as un as that came out, that's when
casting went public, and so they wouldn't have done that
if the intention was to do a season of the Bachelorette.
Like this was definitely a switch up after the fact.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Super interesting, but you know, it makes sense we were
due for a bachelorette and not a bachelor anyway. Yep.
And I think people are happy because they're like, Okay,
that was unfair to the girls, so just skip out
on a bachelorette season.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I did say more thing about this.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I feel like we saw a lot of the negativity
right in the comments. I just want to bring up
something and get your take on this, But say, like
for Grant and Juliana right when that breakup happened, if
you guys remember a lot of the comments I saw.
And I've seen this with past seasons where nobody's gonna last,
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they're in their twenties, cast older, get people that really
want to get married all of those things right, And
here we have she's thirty one, who's thirty one, who
has three children, who's already been married and is divorced.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I think personally.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That this is actually somebody that is more inclined to
find a lasting relationship or an actual marriage versus what
we've been seeing in past seasons of twenty somethings who
don't really know what they want when they come on
the show.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know. I think you guys agree to agree
on that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, she's definitely gonna look, I believe for something more serious.
She definitely talks in the Call Her Daddy episode about
being like I cannot call her a serial monogamous, but
she's into relationships. She's certainly not a serial monogamous. Because
that brings us into our next topic, which is her
soft swinging scandal. I'm catching up on this as I
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have not watched Secret Lives. I will be you guys,
as I'm catching I'm gonna do it. This is gonna
be fun. But she and I like the fact that
I'm going to be able to get to know the
bachelorette so deeply with having two and I think maybe
three seasons airing before her season will be airing. But
the thing that started the whole show was this soft
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swinging scandal. Basically, she and her husband had an agreement
that they weren't going to go all the way with
somebody else, but she did step out of that agreement. Okay,
so she cheated on him. It led to their divorce,
and then after all of that, she ended up getting
with this guy, Dakota, who's very well known on her show,
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and she ends up having a child. Ever with Dakota,
in September twenty twenty three. Oh, she announced it in
twenty twenty three, and she had the baby March twenty
twenty four. So and Dakota is the one that she
has legal issues with. So, Guys, where I'm going with
this is they're swinging involved, and I think that people
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are going to be like, all right, is swinging going
to be involved in a future relationship Mormons? I mean,
I know it's a sort of taboo. It may be
a misunderstanding of sorts to some, but some do believe
in polygamy, and some are polygamists and some aren't. And
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I can't say I'm an expert on all this, so
I'm sorry if I'm an offensive it in any way.
But I'm wondering what her situation with polygamy is going forward.
Has she talked about on the show Heather Anyston.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
We should clarify that polygamy is not is like being married.
Polyamory is what we're talking about, I think, because that's
like having romantic encounters with more than one person. Polygamy
is like being married to more, which is illegal.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And oh thank you, okay, polygamy married? Well, isn't it
just like isn't like a thrupple polygamy you don't have
to be married. No, that's having a third person in
the relationship.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Polygamy is structured in religion, like they do it because
of the scripture that they read and believe in the
got be married to multiple women?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, So polyamory is like having sex with other people and.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Being open about it. Like, yeah, smory is about having
multiple partners. And everybody's aware.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That polygamy and polyamory, yes, two different things. Yes, oh
no way.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Ethical non monogamy is another one yet I'm not sure
what the definition of that one is.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But oh my gosh, guys. Okay, So does she talk
on the show Secret Wives, Secret Live, Secret Wives about
her future in having multiple hookup partners or yeah, because
she's not into Mary, She's not into having a husband
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that has multiple wives. Correct, That is correct, But swinging
is that in her future.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It seems to be that swinging has become off the
table since this situation. Her and Dakota have been very
on and off since all of this, But she is
not expressed about on the show about looking for somebody
that's interested in swinging. It's more like She's interested in
finding somebody and not having the swinging being held against her.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Is what it's like. Okay, all right, all right? So
that is that for Taylor on this podcast, and we
will have so many more thoughts and opinions soon, and
I as I watch Secret Lives, I will update you
guys on how I think she'll be as a lead,
how I think she is as a personality. I'll be
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judge in.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
This moment right now, Ashley, after talking it through, what's
your gut? Say right now? Are you interested in her
as the lead? Are you still? Are you citing with
Bachelor Nation in our negative comments and saying you're not interested?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, I was actually stunned by the amount of negative comments,
were you. I think that ABC's also taken aback by
the negative comments. I think that they thought this is
going to be like majority well received.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm going to say our group chat at work was
lighting up with people saying that they're thrilled about it.
I would say negative comments in general tend to speak
louder on the Internet than anywhere else, but I think
it's where you get your source, right. I think if
you probably went to her page, people were lighting up
the comments excited to see it, but if you went
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on somewhere else you might see negative comments.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So I think it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But overall, people, personal people in my life are excited
about this.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And like an example I like to bring up is
like Ashley. You know my wife Allison, she's been She's
been around Bachelor people for many many years with respect,
she has had zero interest in the show until now.
Like she is a more secret lives a Mormon Wives fan.
She can't wait she will be watching Bachelorette this year.
She's pumped.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, my gut says that I am happy that this
decision was made because I think it's what's best for
the franchise and I want the franchise to thrive and
(21:44):
I think that this will get give it a boost. Agree,
I'm happy about it, all right. And if you guys
want to know more about Taylor's decision and all of
her plans as being the Bachelorette, listen to call her
Daddy interview. It's about an hour long, all right. And
now the Golden Bachelorette. The Golden Bachelor cast was announced
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this week that the pictures and the bios have all
been released online. There's a podcast where Ben and Susan
broke it all down, so you guys can go check
that out. Now it's time for me to give my
quick predictions on this by just a quick swipe up
and down of this cast list. I have three women
that I think are going to be standouts. My Lynn,
(22:32):
the casino VIP hosts from Las Vegas. She knows four languages.
I think that just I'm this is based on looks alone.
You guys know that this is what we do. It's
a very vain segment of our show. I think that
she might be coming across as the sexiest and knowing
what we know about Mel, I do think that attractiveness
(22:58):
there's gonna be like a big component of physicality with
this man. He talked about not being attracted to people
like above the age of forty five. And I think
that she presents herself in just this one photo in
a very sexy way, and then she's a Vegas girl,
Like I just think that like he's going to be
pretty wooed by her. Then there is Nicole. She's from Miami.
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She's very into health. We know that Mel is also
very into health. He really wanted to a woman who's
like was in shape and like again into aesthetics, but
also into physical health. He is an former NFL player.
I think that he made athleticism part of his life
through and through. This lady seems into that and again
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also presents younger than her actual age. I'm sorry, I
don't have the cast up, Heather. Do you see what's
her age? Off hand? It's like sixty two or something.
Hold on, she is sixty five four, sixty four. She
doesn't not look sixty four. She's a hot lady. Think
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that he's going to be into that. Then. My last
person on this list, and I think this could be
a very serious contender, is Maya Maia Maya. Would you
say that Maya Maya, Maya Maya. Okay, yeah, this woman
is below the technical I want to call it a
(24:27):
technical age set of sixty. On Gary season, we saw
nobody below sixty. On Jones season, we only saw Mark
under sixty. He was fifty seven, and he was obviously
on because he was Kelsey's dad and already a fan favorite.
We let him slide on that soft rule. This woman, Maya,
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she is fifty eight and she is she looks good.
She's also a college sports consultant. She's had sports as
part of her life her entire way through, with her
boys and everything. There's a reason she let they let
her slip through at this age, and that's because they
think that she is so compatible with him. So I'm
(25:14):
excited to see where all that goes. Everybody likes me
to choose a villain from photos, too, which is kind
of hard, not my favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
What about maybe instead of villain, somebody who's gonna be
a stir or overly aggressive maybe in their approach.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
All right, we might go with Terry. I can see
Terry having a little aggression. Let's go with that. You
guys know that I hate basing things off of It
makes me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's all in fun.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I know it's in fun. Diane, She's gonna be a firecracker.
She's kind of like got a spiky cut.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I do love your predictions because it's so funny having
you and been doing this separately to see how in
sync you guys are, because I think two out of
your three that you chose are also the same that
he chose.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I love that we should have her separately more often.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's so funny. He absolutely loves my limb. He loves her.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, and he liked Nicole, So like, okay, there we
just know Mel. We don't really know Mel. We've been
very judging towards Mel. But like, if we're going with
a guy who's basically just gonna make this about Hattyvatati's, like,
those are two Hattyvatatis. So there we go.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I think Lisa could have a strong possibility as well.
I think she's really pretty state park employee from Ohio, blonde.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yes, she yes, I can see him. She has like
a Suzanne Summer's look. I can see that.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I also think Debbie, who's sixty five fitness professional from Denver,
all very fitness oriented, short brunette hair, I think she's
another strong contender as well.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay, yes, okay, she caught my eye as well. I
was going to add her to the list, but then
I scrolled down further and I saw more top three.
All right, let's get into the show. The other show
that we have going on, and that is the home
renovation show, Big Big News. I think the HGTV show
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is starting to film this week, and someone that we
think has been a shoe in for this show posted
this week that he just landed in la and he
will call it home for the next month. It is
Tyler Cameron. It is so obvious that he will be
part of the show. He's whole Instagram and business is
(27:39):
around home renovation. He's even doing real estate with Ryan
Sarin and yeah, so we think that Tyler is definitely
there as the host of this show. And then very
interesting Alisha Alisha whatever you call her from this past
season a Bachelor in Paradise. She was very crypti and why.
(28:00):
She said that she had business opportunities that are keeping
her and Sean from focusing on their relationship. She said
she had to. It had to do with her interior
design background, and she wouldn't say more than that. So
my guess is that she will be one of the
contestants on the show. If you guys don't remember, the
format is that there will be bachelor contestants competing to
(28:24):
like renovate the house in their own ways. I guess,
do we know if it's a competition, like they will
be showing their chops basically and like saying this is
how I decorate this room, That's how I decorate that room,
and then like at the end of it all or
midway through, one person is crowned as the renovator of
(28:44):
the show, and then they will go forward with their
decore plans.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So if they're doing it like the way they did
the Brady Bunch Home Renovation show, it's gonna be everybody.
If they do it this way, it'll be people assigned
to specific rooms, and throughout the course of the season
you'll see all the renovations kind of happening at once,
with the giant reveal of the finished product at the end,
(29:09):
and then one winner being announced.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
When winter being announced as like, what, like, what's their prize.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
They're a cash prize for this show.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh, it's a cash prize. But then like, are we
going to keep the house decorated the way that they
wanted it decorated.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I think that's like still.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
To that's new because Brady Bunch, They're not like going
to go film the Brady Bunch in the house.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, I mean the Brady Bunch House, right. They also
were trying to recreate it to look like the set,
So you have very specific ways that you need to do.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
That with this.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think that's what part of the what we don't
know about this show is like, will each room.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Have a theme?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Will certain rooms be switching spots in the mansion? I
don't know how you know deep they're gonna get with
knocking down build knocking down walls or is this just
more of like a visual refresh of the house. Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Also something to make note of is that they're filming
this show for the next month, So let's just say
that takes us to the second week of October. Does
that mean that right away will be starting to film
Taylor's season? I think yes, But I also think that's
getting us really close down to Thanksgiving time. So actually
(30:21):
I'm gonna say probably not. I don't know when her
season will start filming unless they do a sped up version,
unless they don't do it at the Mansion at first.
Maybe they end at the mansion and they go travel first.
Because usually Thanksgiving to Christmas is a big heart New
Year's is a big hard no for production. They like
(30:45):
did Winter Games for ten days at the beginning of December,
but they're not going to have a season run into Thanksgiving,
and normally the season would start filming the week of
September twenty something. So what's your take on that Heather.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I'm I'm interested too, because right the only Bachelorette mom
that I can remember is Emily Maynard.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I know that they had to make special you know.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Filming they did. They shot it in North Carolina, and
I loved that they did it in North Carolina. And
I think for further promotion of Mormon wives, I say,
why not just start at her house?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
And she's got three kids, so that's I think a
lot to uproot and take them to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Not saying it couldn't be.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Done, but I think, yeah, that maybe maybe the show
starts out in Utah and moves filming to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know. Yeah, I think that is the way
that they should do it. I think it's too long,
This is not too this is not shaving Taylor at all.
I don't think she's going to go two months without
seeing your kids now. I think that she will. She
would not want to do that for that reason, So
I think they're growing to accommodate her in some way.
I think it makes sense to start it in Utah,
(32:02):
get a big, fancy mountain house out there, that'll be
a great start, and then like maybe have like a
cool reveal for the proposal or the Final four or
fantasy suites. I don't know how much ABC is going
to let the HGTV show integrate into them.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You know, that's that's a good thing to bring up.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I know that you just speculated earlier that you think
Tyler Cameron is going to be the host. I'm guessing
he's a contestant. Really yeah, And I'll say, because I
think HGTV is going to make their HGTV talent the
hosts of the shows.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, okay, that makes sense. And we want to see Taylor's,
Tyler's work in action.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Tylor's work.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, It's like, sorry, did I say Taylor too? I
know I learned, but yeah, I think, like, right, we're
going to see the Property Brothers in there.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I'm yeah, we're going.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
To see maybe the Taric and you know, Flip or
floor couple coming in there and doing some stuff, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And I think they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Working alongside some of these Bachelor alum that will be.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
There for the duration of filming.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
What I do like is that it doesn't sound like
it's competition elimination. I am concerned after the Paradise prize.
If this prize money is going to be a little lackluster,
but I guess I want to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I don't think it's gonna hit the six digits.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's definitely not going to be five hundred thousand. That
is not going to be an HGTV prize cash.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But I'm definitely going to watch.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I will say, yeah, I'll definitely watch too. It may
not be a week to weeks hitch, but like it'll
definitely be on in a stream format.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah agree.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Alrighty well, Heather, thank you so much for all your
opinions and for just your expertise and all this you
are so up to. You just know your okay, and
I love that for me and I love you for it,
and guys, we will talk to you very very soon
and hope Ben will be back with me. And until then,
(34:09):
I've been Ashley and I've been Heather. See y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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