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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with i R Radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost
same As podcast. This week, The Bachelorette UM airs on Thursday,
so we decided to get on the mics today just
to talk about hot topics and have a few favorites
on the podcast, including Dianna Stagliano, um, who was on
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Claire's last episode and to see like where her part
got edited? You know, um, we want to talk to
her about what went down when Claire decided to cancel
the daytime portion of the date last last episode. But
before that, Hello, Ben, what's going on? You know what? Actually,
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I think we just love talking to each other so
much and we love our listeners so much that we're like,
why don't just like pump out five podcasts a week?
Maybe six? Well, let's start with two. Okay, Yeah, I
think we're gonna be doing two for the next month.
The month of November, we'll have two podcasts, so make
sure to look out for Usually, I think it will
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for all y'all who don't stay up late. And then um,
probably like a Thursday or Friday, episode as well. It's
just it's just out of love. I think there's a
lot of love going aroundight now. Well, hey, speaking of love,
as Ashley mentioned, we do have Dan went on, we
also have Blake Hortzman, uh, coming on podcast later on
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Bachelor hot topics headlines, whatever you wanna call it doesn't
matter and here's the first Bachelor at producer pinpoints the
exact moment Claire Crawley had to be replaced. This according
to Vulture, so um Ben Wah actually kind of hinted
at this a couple of days ago when we did
his in depth Rob Mills. He is the ABC executive
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in charge of If It's Not a scripted show, Rob
Mills has a large part in its production. Um, so
he said on Nick's podcast, Actually that, um, the moment
that she didn't Claire didn't give out a rose on
that group day and she gave it to herself. That
was the moment that they knew they had to start
thinking about or that was the moment that they kind
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of made the call. They were like, Okay, we're probably
gonna need a call tation. Their connection, her and Dale's
connection was just like at that point too strong. She
couldn't fake it any longer. It couldn't suffice for the
rest of the season. I'd say I would love Ashley
to have been in the war room of the Bachelorette
producers as this was going down, Like how they're they're
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brilliant at what they do. Uh. Obviously they've made twenty
years worth of television. But like, as this is playing out,
they're like, Okay, how do we make it a full season?
As we know how this like she's very obviously in
a Dale Dales into her this is over. These guys
are starting to realize it. Like for them to now
come up with, well, we're gonna bring in a brand
new Bachelor att that people are gonna be super pumped
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about and we're gonna make this work like that is
some massive strategicy. Oh yeah, absolutely, And I think we
also should mention that Rob Mills said something also very interesting.
He says that Claire swears on her dad's grave that
she and Dale did not speak before the show. And
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I completely believe her if she's swearing on her dad's grave.
And I also, you know, like that's intense, and I
think that she knows that she wouldn't have gotten in
that much trouble if she just admitted that they did, right,
like she Because how many couples talk before paradise and
then it's all dandy. I mean, you know, people can
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say what they want about Claire. Obviously, you and I
uh like Claire. We think she's a great choice. For
Bachelor Atte we wanted mostly because we just want to
see her or find love. She found it. The one
thing nobody can like say about Claire in any type
of criticism is she's not honest, Like that girl is
to a fault, like blunt honest and like right to
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your face. And so I wouldn't I have to trust
her because she's never shown signs of like not being truthful.
I mean even when people have tried to call out
for lying through this season, saying oh yeah, you went
to problem like that was a big deal or not,
like she still proved him wrong. So like Claire, I
believe her, not only because she you know, sworn her
dad's grave, which just makes me feel all sorts of
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heavy um, but she's been honest. So next headline is
about Claire as well. Chris Harrison addresses if and this
has been a question for me, uh and it kind
of goes back off this topic. Chris Harrison addresses if
Claire Crawley was forced out of the Bachelorette. This according
to ET Okay, So I don't want to get this wrong,
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so I'm gonna read the direct quotes here. He said,
I would just say that she has complete control. Um.
He also said that he hasn't spoken to Claire for
a few weeks now. He said this season of The
Bachelorette was completely about Claire. It's all about Claire, which
sounds very reminiscent of what we heard him say a
couple of weeks ago where he said what it was
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Claire season. He also says that Claire will decide where
we go from here, and it's totally completely up to her. No,
it sounds like that is referring to her in the
moment and not her now right, Yes, No, I mean
I don't think she's sitting behind the scenes pulling any
you know, anything here, Like she is definitely out of
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it now, she's living her life. The show has already
been taped. I think in the moment is what he's
referring to. Actually, I'm still though confused, because now we
have like everything but a confirmation that Tassia steps in here. Like,
I don't know how it can be Claire season if
Tassia comes in at this point. I mean, maybe it's
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like maybe it's fifty fifty, maybe it's reversed, but like
it's not season no, Okay, So I think Chris is
here trying to defend the show because I think there's
been so many conspiracy theories out this week that they
went into the taping of Claire's season with the thought that,
no matter what happens, we're going to bring in another bachelorette. Um.
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Whether that's because they got flat when they announced Claire
back in March, or whether they thought it would be
an interesting spin, I don't know, but lots of people
have been saying, oh, Tassia was like in the wings
the entire time. Well, I can tell you Tasia was
not asked at all to step in until like three
four days whatever it took to quarantine her until she
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started filming. You know, like the girl was notified. The
week she started filming was the week that she got
a call from them. Yeah, Like her Instagram post said,
you rang, Like I think that's true. They call She's
hanging out at home. She's probably like wuarantine in our couch,
eating some chips, and all of a sudden she gets
a called you you want to be the Bachelorette? And
she's like, well yeah, when uh like this next week? Yes,
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I think like that's a big move for her, And
I mean The alternative is that, yeah, Tasia was called
months in advance and prep for this. I just don't
see the show doing that. Yeah, I don't see you
know that? Yeah, No, I know this. I know this. Okay,
So here's a here's a big moment, Ashley, Yeah, confirming
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you are Ashley can Eddie is confirming that Tasha Adams
was not called previous to the season, that she was
called just days in advance of her starting the Bachelorette. Yes,
Now I should clarify that was she in talks to
be the Bachelorette seasons, you know, like back in the winter. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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in the winter. Was she in consideration before Hannah's season? Yeah?
But was she her thinking about being like a replacement
of fill in Bachelorette? Was she in the know about
this weeks before taking over? Absolutely not. And I think
that Chris goes ahead and explains this even more so
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when he says it was all about plan a, Um,
we said, what do we do with this season with Claire?
Where do we go with that? He said, it was
really about Claire and her decisions. It's her decisions that
you're going to see, so well, everything will be in
this upcoming episode. He said that they put it all
in her court, completely up to her, and he said,
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while I'm saying that, it really is something that you're
all gonna need to see this week, um, and we
want you to see so you can judge. But in
my humble opinion, he says, it really it's really her
call from where we go from here? So interesting. I mean,
this is this is gonna be a huge week. I
think bachel Nation is tuning in. I think they've captivated
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us all. I think it's just interesting, intriguing. I mean, yeah,
like Claire's love story, I don't know if it will
have the pinnacle kind of feeling that um, like a
full season would feel like like I think it might
just feel like, Okay, she fell in love, now she's out.
But like the way that I'm still intrigued is because
I want to see how this all goes down. And
this is the reference to the next hot topic which
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Chris Harrison asks this question and we saw this in
a dramatic Bachelort sneak peak. The question he asked Claire
is did you lie to all of Bachelor Nation? This?
According to E News, what a statement? Did you lie
to all of Bachelor Nation. Okay, so this again is
referring to the speculation that she and Dale were in
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communication before filming began, and we got her answer she
sare on her dad's grave. Um, but you know so
I think that's that's the question. He The question that
everyone is going to be asking when they have of
this also teased sit down is did you guys talk beforehand?
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Because we've never seen a connection so strong and so
season altering this early on so on behalf of Bachelor Nation?
Where are you hiding something from us? Did you talk
to him? And she's gonna apparently say no. I mean
it is the question that we're all asking, and you
know Claire has come out and said no, I wasn't
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I fell in love? Um. You know this is a
tough one to talk about, this next hot topic, because
it is when we speak about all the time on
this podcast. I mean, we are broken records when it
comes to um, how much we know our friends, how
much are we ourselves? Uh deal with criticism and how
hard it is and how much it makes this question?
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Are just who we are and our worth? And you
know where we sit in this world? Uh? And it
doesn't get an easier. I feel like as time goes on,
people just get more and more blunt, they get more
and more mean, They say things on social media that
just aren't fair and not kind. And Claire's obviously sitting
in a place right now where there is criticism. She's
doing something unconventional when it comes to what we expect
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out of the Bachelorette, and it's typically change is always
the thing that brings the most criticism when it comes
to this show, Like anything radical, new or change worthy
is always the thing that people criticize or talk about. Well,
this season is definitely that. It's been that since the
very beginning. Well, the headline reads, Claire Crawley is struggling
with Bachelorette criticism. Bachelor Nation bff Michelle Money, who we
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have in the podcast a few weeks ago, reveals and
this according to US Weekly. Yeah, so she said that she,
you know, has been speaking to Claire throughout the weeks
and so that she is really struggling right now. She's
having a hard time. Um. But she says that like
all these people who are giving her hate, she just
wants them to heal. She wants to help them. She
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hates that. Um, she just you know, wants to live
everyone up. She hates being surrounded by negativity. She also
says that Claire spent an equal amount of time with
every single one of these guys. So what's frustrating is
that you don't get to see the whole story, Michelle says.
She says, but that's, you know, the price that you
pay for going on the show. The positives almost always
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always outweigh the negatives. But that is something that like,
I think that it's important for Ben and I to
also bring up. It's like, I know, you guys have
heard us say this multiple times before, but you are
filming almost seven almost four seven, and of course it's
going to get crammed down into an hour and twenty minutes.
So yeah, they're gonna show the parts with with Dale
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because those are the most critical parts in her love story.
If the lead doesn't have a strong connection or nothing
really ends up happening with one of the guys, Like,
they're not going to show that, They're gonna show what
is most crucial to you understanding who they end up
with in the end, right, Yeah, definitely, I mean it's
the story that you said it perfectly. It's compressed and
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so you want to show an accurate story. Uh, And
the story is that she fell in love with Dale.
Now the crazy part about this and which I wish
they wouldn't hide, And I kind of think that Claire
Shine hide is I felt like I think I fell
in love with this dude from like first glance, Like
from night one, he was like so far in my
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head and so much in my heart that like I
couldn't function without talking to him, or I couldn't and
it just kept getting better and better and better. And yes,
like some of these guys didn't maybe get the chance
that others would on other seasons, but other seasons aren't
like this, Like not everybody falls in love so quickly,
or at least falls in like so quickly. Yeah, and
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she could. I mean we see, we see in the
show that the guys are jealous of the time that
Dale has been getting. But let's just say that the
time that he's been getting compared to the other guys
is super marginal, Like he might be getting ten or
fifteen minutes extra, but she's still having sit down with
all these guys. She is, I mean, yes, for I
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think we don't get to see him, but I'm imagining this,
and I have nothing to base this on Ashley. I'm
imagining this is how it plays out, is she's sitting
down with all these guys, but those conversations just aren't interesting,
Like she's she's so much into Dale that like there's
no chemistry between her and these other guys, so it's
not worth showing, or we'd just be watching two people
kind of sit there with like birds or crickets chirping
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in the background, and they're just kind of like looking
at each other and things get awkward and then they leave.
I don't want to watch that. I don't I don't
know who does. And maybe be helpful if we saw
more of that, because we would get a better perspective
of her time spent. But you can only show that
so many times before it's just awkward and weird, and
actually I think would would make Claire look worse and
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and so in a sense, they're kind of like protecting
her from that. I'm imagining by saying, hey, we're gonna
show her love story. Now. We don't know where her
love story really ends yet, but we are now assuming
that we have for months that Tasha Adams does come
in as the Bachelorette, and we see her revealed by
her getting out of a pool. Well, she's playing super
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coy about this. In fact, the headline of this article
by People reads, Tasha Adams place coy about her steamy
Bachelor appearance. She has, I was just swimming around. Come on,
I just hear this coming out of Tasa's mouth, she
says on her podcast Clickbait with Joe and Hannah Ann.
She says, uh. She says, um, you know I would
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just I love Palm Springs, I love Laquinta. I vacation there.
It's summer, it's hot. I was in a pool, just
like swimming around with imlay you're referring to. So she's like, because,
I guess, like the franchise itself has not declared her
the bachelorette yet, and all they've shown is her getting
out of a pool. She's also not confirming that she's
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a bachelorette, so she's just there and like they somehow
caught her on film. If this is how this plays out,
like if Tatia actually isn't the Bachelor, I'm gonna be shocked,
like shocked. I I can't absolutely just blown away. That
would be the greatest spin of all time. That would
be the most shocking thing ever if like it is
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all like a lie and she showed up to like
host a date. Yeah exactly, and then like Claire sticks
around and she ends up with some other dude in
the Yeah, well that would be wild. Um. Well, speaking
of this, the Bachelorette host Chris Harrison did mention um
why they waited to address Tasha Adams in the New
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York Post article. Actually we wondered, you know, why are
you staying so secret about this? Why are you not
confronting this? We all hear about it. What's going on? Well,
Chris addresses it. Yeah. He basically just said that there's
a method to their madness in waiting. And he said that,
you know, they wanted the focus to be on Claire.
This was, you know, supposed to be her season of
the Bachelorette, and that he was also very intimately involved
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with the decision making to bring in atoms. And that
makes sense because Chris Harrison is an executive producer on
the show. Is he not? He is he has been
a long time. Um, sad news, not like that, sad
not But I love the tell all shows. I think
they're hilarious and I think they're always interesting to watch
the chemistry. Will uh just glance over this one. But
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Chris Harrison did say that he cannot promise tell all
this year obviously due to COVID and the restrictions, and
so we're kind of up in the air right now
if we'll ever see these guys back together in the
same room again, which is unfortunate. Yeah, if I imagine
if they do something along the lines that they'll have
like a couple of guys who are really crucial, maybe
like whoever was in the end the top five or six, right,
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But like, we don't need any villains there. We only
bring up a villain storyline. We don't need Yosef back.
You know, we saw like Yosef kind of sucks. We
don't need any more confirmation. Yeah. In fact, this week,
Tyler See kind of came out and said, Hey, this
girl that's coming up with these videos that is posting
on TikTok that we talked about last week, Like, that's
not even the girl I was talking about. And so
one of our listeners rode in and said, wait, does
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that mean there is more than one? I don't know.
I don't think we can confirm or deny, but Tyler
C did come out and say the guy that that
is not the girl that I was referring to on
night one. Yeah, so basically Joseph was messing around with
a lot of girls and what Tyler You know, Tyler
C may have been eliminated for very poor reasoning. Yeah,
I don't. I don't think he was her number one
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choice either way, it probably wasn't gonna happen. But like
live been around a little bit longer. Well, bouncing from
Claire to the current Bachelor's season that's filming right now.
The Bachelor's Matt James uh Robert Mills sat down with
Nick Vile on The Vile Files and said that something
really crazy went down on White on Night one with
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Matt James. All we have to elaborate on here is
that he says something happens on that one that that
I've never seen before. Maybe it's because of Matt's naivete,
you know, like he's ever been through this. Um. He
also says it's not what you think, though I don't
know what we're thinking, So that doesn't eliminate much to me,
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But he says it's really crazy and he can confidently
say that Matt will be the only bachelor this season.
It's uh, it's probably a good thing. I don't think
we can take too many flips, flips and flops. Uh
this year. It's already crazy enough. Well. Our last headline
is one of Hannah Brown. Hannah Brown sat down with
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Caitlin Bristow on Off the Vine and she says she
was broken after the Bachelorette and Dancing with the Stars.
Uh this according to US Weekly. Yeah, so I also
don't want to like make up what she's you know,
summarize what she said, So I'm gonna read the quotes
directly here. She said, I had to look within think
what just happened? What has the past year and a
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half been? Like? Who even were you before that? And
have you lost the girl? Or is that girl the
same or just different? Or am I just somebody that
I didn't even recognize. She said that there was a
lot of things that she didn't like about herself anymore.
And she said that a lot of it has to
do with just like being filmed twenty four hours a day. Um,
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but it's only on for less than two hours a
week when you take away the commercials, and she said,
that's all people get to see, so you know that
that shows just like one side of her, And she
says that she started her YouTube channels so that fans
can see a different side of her. And both Caitlin
and Hannah agreed that filming The Bachelor was way more
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fun than filming The Bachelorette, which I think that if
you go back and ask, like a lot of leads
or or even people like me who were on multiple seasons,
like when it comes to fun, the first season seems
to be always the most fun. Maybe not the most growing,
maybe not like the season you got the most out of,
but definitely just the most easy, breezy. I I appreciate
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that Hannah was honest here and open. I think one
of the things that happens when you get off a show,
and for anybody out there listening to this, like whenever
you have kind of your your high points in life,
like the things that really excite you are different, or
you know, if it's a promotion at work, or if
you get engaged, or if you meet the love of
your life, or if you buy your first home or
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any of those big like life moments. Um a kid,
having a kid, like there's a letdown and and I
think for anybody goes on the show, it is a high,
like you have cameras around, people treat you like you're
somebody for a period of time and like you feel special.
And I know for me, like I struggled with that,
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Like as hard as you want to fight, hey, I
don't want this to become my reality. I don't want
to get used to this because I know it's ending.
It's really hard when you live in it for so long,
and the longer you're in it, the more comfortable you
get in it, and the more you expect to continue.
And there is a letdown then from that whenever that ends,
because it ends for everybody no matter you know, if
you're an actor or an actress or if you're a
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CEO of a company or whatever, Like when you have
a lot of attention on you, at some point in
your life, that ends. And when it does, it is uncomfortable,
it hurts, it feels weird. Um, I have had that
happen to me. Uh And and I know many people
that we know how to happen to them, And so
I like that she's honest about it, because one of
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the worst. One of the things that frustrates me the most, Ashley,
about myself and then as a result, probably about others,
is when there's like this expectation that this will continue
forever um and you try to do whatever it takes
to make it continue forever, because then you do, like
Hannah said, and you lose yourself, You stop being yourself,
and you start being whatever anybody wants you to be.
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And then years after that you're going I I lost
myself in the midst of this. It's it's why a
little side tangent here before we bring on some guests.
But I have something I want to admit to you,
m h I cried recently, Okay, and it's gonna be
over something that you're going to be shocked by. Okay,
(25:15):
here's what I got tear added over justin Bieber's Lonely song.
I watched you talked about this a couple of weeks.
I just was that off air? Was that that was
on air? Was it on air? Well? Anyways, I it's
still on my head, like that song still like gets me,
and I don't know why. Like I'm not a Bieber fan.
I don't dislike the guy but watching his music video,
and I think it's worth mentioning twice now in a podcast.
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Is you just get a perspective of this like kid
who has so many expectations placed on him, so many
things expected of him, and he feels so lonely in
the midst and I and I wonder, actually, how many
people out there listening to this for whatever their life
is involving right now, and COVID is obviously one of them,
Like how many people feel super lonely, um, and they
don't know how to get out of it? Well, I
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know that you really relate on that topic. And now
I have to admit I haven't seen this video and
I'm going to have to. I cannot believe you haven't
seen it, Ashley. This is crazy. Um, I've watched the
Justin Bieber music video and you haven't. This is now.
This is another high in my life and I'll have
to come that off of this. I've got something on Ashley. Hey,
ash let's move on now. We got a couple of
guests coming up on the podcast. We're super excited to
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talk to. Uh Blake Hortsman is gonna be on breaking
down his life. Well, he's up to it today and
uh and obviously uh, Diana will come on as well. Okay, guys,
we have Blake on the line. Blake, I'm starting out
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with a very ashley question. So we didn't in depth
with Jason a couple of weeks ago, and I said, well,
now that that Garrett and Becca are no longer together,
who from the franchise can you see Becca getting with now?
And he immediately said, Blake and you guys are going
to rekindle the romance. Ben, it's got his hand on
his face right now. Have you spoken to Becca since
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the split? Actually did listen to that podcast with Jason.
I was like, Jason, U s O B. I was like,
way to put that out there. No, Yeah, we've chatted
a little bit. I mean, you know, I told her
I support her, and you know, I hope she I
hope she's doing well and everything. But it's it's just
a friendship. We have a good relationship I think for
the most part. I mean we've been friendly the whole
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time since even the finale, you know, so there's never
been any kind of weirdness between uns or anything like that.
So this has actually been placed in hot topics, but
it seems as if Garrett has a new girlfriend. He
posted a picture of a girl yesterday on his Instagram
and he said like something about a cute pumpkin at
a pumpkin patch. Have you talked to him about this
(27:47):
new relationship? Uh? Yeah, I did see that picture. Uh No,
I haven't chatted with him about the relationship anything. We
haven't chatted in a bit. But I mean, you know,
I think everybody deserves, you know, happiness, so I hope
this one sticks for him. I guess know. We asked
this question all the time on the podcast. Maybe you
can answer it for us. Nobody ever has been able
to how how how soon is too soon to move on? Okay,
(28:09):
thank you. I'm glad that you asked that because that
is such a good question. Um. Yeah, I don't have
any answer to that. But I always think, you know,
in these public relationships, like were they broken up for
a while before they actually said it in public? Like
we don't know the time. I don't think anybody really
knows the time except for them probably, Um, but I
don't know that. I mean, some people move on quicker
than others. Some people hold onto things that aren't there sometimes,
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so I think it really is already answer to that.
I have to say that, like putting myself in Chris
randone shoes and now Becca's shoes, both of those relationships
being public on it's like the new relationships being public
on Instagram so fast, Like it kind of makes me
feel like my thoughts immediately go to the X and
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I'm just like, it feels too soon for me to
be watching this on Instagram. I can't imagine we're they're
at we root for the underdog. Yeah, I mean it
is hard, and I Chris. I don't know how long
Chris and Crystal because again, who knows, you know when
they actually like, yeah, like they a little different. There's
more months there for sure, Yeah, for sure. But I
do agree like going public with it, I mean that
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that is a lot sometimes going public with it pretty
soon after um, But I don't know, Like I said,
everybody has their own timeline, and everybody if they feel
comfortable enough and they've moved past it, they moved on,
then why he did? I guess too, unless you're thinking
of the other person. I don't know. It's it's hard
because you try and like there's so many people involved,
and you know, so many variables involved. In that situation
that it's hard to know which what is right and
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what is wrong. Yeah, well, hey, best luck to Ben.
What do you think do you think that is? Do
you think it was too fast? I don't know. I
mean I've been in this right, like I've been in
a public relationship and somebody moved on, and I don't
think I can even speak to the timeline. I just
know it hurts no matter what, Like I don't know,
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and it might hurt both people, like it might feel weird,
not at first, but like I just know it hurts
and it's But I also think this it's the moment
that healing can start, because until then you're kind of
like this, like questioning what you know, is this something
that we should hold on to and we're ever going
to get back together? Hey I missed them or whatever?
And then once it like finally like you see them
(30:18):
like holding somebody else, the crescendo. Yeah. I think it's
like your you hit rock bottom and that can last
as long as you want, and then you can start
to heal. But again, like we're not getting any younger,
nobody is ever um and so if you find somebody
that you're into and that you want to build a
life like a relationship with I don't know if there
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is that timeline. It could happen the next day, it
could happen a couple of months. Um, never easy at all,
Like really, really I had I had a relationship the
one right before I went on the show actually and
broke up, broke my heart and then within like two
weeks had another boyfriend and that hurt. And I didn't
even do that in public high Like I can't imagine
doing like what you did, Ben and what beggars to
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about what's beck is going through right now, Like in
the public eye, that would be would be another level.
It's rough. Um, Okay, So we've talked about Becca uh
Blake Uh. You and I get to see each other
quite a bit. We both live in Denver, we both
work out at F forty five here in Denver. Um.
I was just there before I got on the podcast. Today,
I'm feeling like the best ship in my life. I mean,
(31:21):
I'm I'm telling you and here's my problem though, I
stand next to you in there and we do box
jumps and you move the box jump like over to
the highest level and I'm still on the lowest level.
And you're hopping up there. Um, so I stopped working
out the same time you did. I'd say I haven't
seen you in a while, but um, but that's not
what I want to talk to you about. Blake. You're
up to some stuff right now. Obviously, Covid kind of
(31:42):
shut down, um, your world in many ways. You were,
you were traveling, you're a d J, you had some
gigs lined up. Covid stops that, but you've rolled into
this role of podcast host. Uh, tell us about it? Yeah,
So yeah, I mean Covid definitely put a damper on
kind of what my year was gonna look like. I
had a lot of things set up as far as
like DJ sets had a residency in Atlantic City and
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one in Vegas, and those obviously fell through. So um,
we had planned kind of to start this podcast about
the Grizzly Roads, which is I mean, you've been been
a couple of times. I'm sure yeah you have. I
know I've been there with you. But um, it's a
local like honky Tonk kind of concert venue here in Denver,
and we wanted to name it behind the Roads It's
called the Grizzly Roads, but then also have a play
on you know, reality television, Bachelor, all those kinds of things.
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And so we've been we're about gosh, close to two
months in right now, and it's fantastic. I love it.
I feel like every time interview somebody on that podcast,
I learned something new which I didn't expect, you know,
as the interviewer. You know. So it's been fun, it's
been great. We've had a lot of Bachard people on,
a lot of musicians, um coaching musicians, and it's kind
of basically what we say is it's country music meets
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pop culture is basically what this podcast is and do
with my buddy Eric Bradley and producer Eddie Haskell, and
we're killing. I love it. It's a it's a good time.
It's something to do during quarantine, which is fantastic. It's
nice to find that they definitely is so okay. It's
so it's what country music meets pop culture? What is
some what is it? What's the topic in their headline
(33:09):
that you can use as an example? I mean so,
I mean I think we all know this target audience wise,
the same people that watched the Bashlard usually our country
music fans. It's just like insane, like you guys not
not to say we're not often bombarded by fans when
we go to the mall. I you know, it's like
(33:30):
it can we can go months without being recognized sometimes,
but you go to a country concert and all of
a sudden, you might be as popular as Keith Urban. Seriously,
I remember I'd say that with all humbleness, right right right,
but yeah, more people like yeah, we'll come up to
you and ask her picture. They would like, yeah, the artist.
You know, it's pretty crazy. So we knew that was
(33:50):
a thing, and so we kind of wanted to blend
because a lot of these country music artists also watched
the show, so it's kind of a cool thing. Like
we just had Carlie Pierson and she's a huge fan
of so she want to reek beyond one of our
recap episodes, Um, I mean Dan and Shay. Like Dan
called me during Paradise to check in on me. He
was like, are you doing Yeah, So it's just cool
to to know that there's that, you know, cross the
(34:12):
audience really crosses. And I enjoy the podcast a lot
because I obviously it's become pretty big advocate with mental
health and so we talked about that a lot, whether
it be with people have been on the show or musicians,
and the pressure and stresses of life on the road,
of living in the public eye, of relationships in the
public eye, whether it be breaking up or getting together. Um,
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so I'm really enjoying that and seeing how everybody kind
of gets through those those you know, ups and downs
and the rock bottom and everything. So that's been an
eye opened it for me to see just how many
people have hit rock bottom and how they've gotten through it.
So that's been pretty exciting for me. One of our
hot topics was that Michelle Money says that Claire's of course,
I had to say, of course, because she's gotten so
(34:54):
much flak, like, you know, having a hard time. You know,
she's everybody's desizing her, and well, I think she's doing
a fantastic job. But what would your what would your
advice be for her right now? And like, how do
you feel like she's handled being in the later all? Yeah,
I mean she's getting so much. We're three episodes in
the amount of criticism she's gotten. I can't believe. It's
(35:17):
it's absolutely insane, um and just how nazy it's I
understand criticism, but she's getting different kind of criticism. I
never really even Pete, like Pete had a rep season,
and I don't feel like he even got it this
bad for the whole season. Um she's making like listen.
I mean, I think she hasn't done herself any favors,
you know, with the way the show has been you know,
(35:37):
been showed. But the editing hasn't helped a lot. I mean,
I can't remember what I was talking to reason, It
was just Tia on our Potter Canda with somebody, but
they basically said, like, obviously they're gonna push this Dale
and Claire's story a lot, because what if they didn't
show their connection, didn't show how much she was into him,
and then all of a sudden she runs off with
that'd be so awkward for us as a naughty like
(35:57):
what the hell just happened? So they're gonna play this up.
They're gonna play up Dale and Claire and her only
being in him because they have too. Otherwise we'd be
so confused when she ran off with him, you know.
So in that sense, I get the edit and the
kind of a narrative that they're doing, so I don't
I don't. It's been rough for her. And I did
reach out to her and you know, and I said,
keep your head up, you know, and she I think
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she just gotta keep She's gonna stay on social media
first of all, say social media, um, and just keep
those you know close to her, her family, her friends
close and um gosh, take time for herself because right now,
if I was her, I can't imagine like going through Twitter,
you know, especially on like the actual nights of the show.
And just stay on social media and hopefully, you know,
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keep those the good ones close to you. That's what
I told her. You get so excited for these airrings,
like I I know, I remember any episode on mo on,
Like I get so excited, so like anxious and nervous.
Still if there's even like a small commercial amount or something,
it just happens, like it's just part of the euphoria
of it all. And the letdown, I mean, I feel
for her because like the letdown had to be like drafted,
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like you said, it's not She's excited, she's pumped, she's
talking about how excited and then like the criticism has
been a ton and I mean it's not fair. I
don't think because, like you said, like that's a perfect point,
Like if she runs off with Dale in week four,
we need to know that her and Dale were really
into each other, and like aren't we watching this show
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still to like see people fall in love, Like isnt
that not? I mean, yes, we want to see the drama.
That's hilarious. We want to have our wine and like,
laugh at the character is great, laugh at us all
you want, But ultimately, if you find a love story,
it's something to celebrate. And if we've lost that, we've
lost the show. And like she found love, we need
to celebrate it. I completely agree. And I think that,
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like you said, that's got to be hard for clear
right now because I've been going to this season after
it already filmed that she had left to know when
she seems I'm sure she's happy and everything. It seems
like she's probably so excited to watch her love story unfold,
and now she's going to what she's going through right now,
and nobody even cares now that they're in love and
that they're love stories. You know, how into her or
how into her he is, and how into him she is,
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So I don't know, it's it's hard because for some reason,
she's getting this villainettit falling in love too great. People
are just like not having enough empathy for her in
my opinion, just like put yourself in her shoes and
tell me you do anything differently. Yeah. Well, and then
there's there's there's always criticism of a leading like Ben,
you fell in love with two people? What? But then
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Claire decides who she wants falls in love and now
she's getting criticism for that. We can't I tell you
what though. One of my takes and one of the
things that encourages me before we let you go here, Blake,
is uh. It seems like in in most recent memory,
the couples who have gone through the most criticism during
the season have made it. And I mentioned like Ari
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and Lauren, like that was not an easy season to
go to Ferrari, they made it. They made it through,
right Peter and Kelly like, yes, not didn't really work
out on the show, but like he was criticized for
that move. Everybody was against it, and then now look
everybody's celebrating it. So I mean, I think like when
it comes to this season, it's a make or break,
like either you get really close as a couple and
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you say, hey, I'm in it. I love you, and like,
I know this is hard, but I'm gonna sit by
you and we're gonna get through this together or it
breaks you, which I don't know it's a bad thing
because ultimately, you know that's not your partner. You know
it's not the person is gonna be with you through
thick and thin. So you know that's why I love
Ari and Lawrence. I look at them like that cannot
have been easy. But now you have a kid and
you're happy and uh, and so we'll see. Yeah, I
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just hope she's good. I agree with you. I think
sometimes if you can make it through these rough waters,
and honestly, in Paradise you see it too because somebody
who come down the stairs, I'll go on a date.
But if they can get through it, they finished Paradise
together a lot of times, you know, it works out,
and so I think you just have each other to
lean on and it bonds you that much more. So. UM,
I hope they can make it through this, and I
think they will. Um, but yeah, we'll see. I guess
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I can't wait for that reunion. Can't for the reason, Hey,
I can't wait to see like how they leave the show.
We're going to his room and being like, hey, Um,
I'd like to get out of here, you want to
come with me? We're so good? All right, thank you
so much. Yeah, Blake again once again, I just want
to mention before we let you go here. Uh it
(40:20):
is behind the Rose Uh podcast. Blake Hurtzman and Eric
Bradley host it. UM Blake, best of luck man, thanks
for coming on, um, and we'll watch your love story
unfolding with whoever that may be. Maybe eventually it's something everybody.
Thanks by Hey, just a warning for me to be
(40:47):
out there listening right now. In a second, we're going
to speak with Diana and there it's a great conversation,
one that actually I really enjoyed having, and there's a
lot of insight into what it was like behind quarantine
and was like for Dinna to be on the show,
and what happened with that date and why it never happened.
But there's also a moment where there is a little
bit of a spoiler. I'll call it a little bit
of a spoiler because it does talk about Claire in
(41:08):
Dale Um and if they're together or if they aren't together. Today.
Um So, just if you don't want to hear that,
go ahead and fast forward through that piece. But if
you do want to hear it, it doesn't give too
much away. It's not gonna ruin anything, I don't think, um,
but it is worth us mentioning that. Hey, if you
don't want to know anything, skip through it, alright. So
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from one person who's just been viewing the show to
one person that has been there confirmed, who has seen
Claire in love with Dale and having to navigate data
different men, let's get Dianna on the phone. Didn't get
to see enough, Diana, that's my that's my take. Too quick,
(41:48):
too soon, that poor girl quarantine for four or five
days for like a thirty minute sit down conversation with
Claire and went back, Oh, like this isn't fair. Okay, So, Dianna,
you were there for date. Claire tells you, I can't
wait to see these guys. I can't wait for you
(42:09):
to meet these guys and get your feedback on them.
And then the day never happened. Did you ever get
to meet these men? Um? I did not get to
meet any of the guys because of the date and
the fact that we didn't do it, and we only
filmed a girl chat. I did not get to meet
any of the guys, um, so I only got to
hear about them. And of course you guys saw in
the episode it looks like Claire only talks about Dale,
(42:31):
but I legit heard about a lot of guys and
heard about her experience. We did not just talk about Dale.
The uh my take from this whole episode was that
we didn't get to see enough of you, Like we
were all pumped to watch you host this day and
meet these guys, and it just kind of ended. Can
you give us a little backstory to your Like, I'm
imagining what was like a four day quarantine locked in
a hotel room to have like a what thirty minute
(42:54):
conversation where you disappointed? Where you sad? Ben? Really, I
was like the best mom living my COVID dreams in
Palm Springs, except for it was like a hundred and
twenty degrees every single day, so that was the only downfall.
But I got to stay in a hotel and get
a full night's sleep and being to watch TV in
(43:15):
order room service and drink wine for five days straight.
I mean, I really think that I'm the one winning here. Yeah,
it was really great, but um, I did have to
have three COVID tests, and since they had to have
three negative ones before I could even see anybody or
walk onto set. And since they were one of the
first shows that went back into production, they were not
(43:36):
messing around. They were not like like taking any chances.
And the doctor that they have on set was really serious.
I she I am pretty sure like scraped as far
back in my neighbor haze of cavities as she possibly could.
I remember my nose was bleeding for like days. I
was so like just like rocked from the first nasal
(43:57):
swab that when she came back the next day, I
was like crying. I was like, please don't do that again.
Yeah there, okay, so you don't get to meet the guys.
Claire cancels the date or the day portion of the date.
My theory on this is that it was it supposed
to be an outdoor date and it was too hot,
(44:19):
and so she like was forced to cancel it. Am
I right? I like the way you're thinking, because my
hair and my makeup looked really good. You know. I
was all about Gina doing whatever she needed because it
was so great to just have someone do my hair
and makeup. But no, it was going to be inside
and there was gonna be plenty of air conditioning. Um.
But in Claire's defense, it was a date that she
(44:41):
did not want to do because they had just done
the strip Dodgeball date. And she came to me and
she was like, honestly, I put these guys through this
crazy date the other day and they were really good
sports about it. But like the date that we were
going to do was kind of like a game show
and we were going to quiz them on like Women's
Anatomy and stuff like that. And you know what, she
was like, I really don't need to have these guys
discussing like a vagina or tampons, Like I just really
(45:03):
want to get to know them and have real conversations,
So I just don't want to do this. And I
was like, totally fine, totally fine. I'm already thinking about
what I'm ordering for dinner. I really like your attitude. This,
You're actually like, this is so spot on because anybody
I talked to you they have been in quarantine or
have gone on the show. Like most people love it
because it's like it's four days forced of just doing nothing,
(45:25):
like you cannot do anything, and I can't imagine as
a mom, just how like awesome that was. Well, I'll
tell you what, Ben, I got to shower today alone
and wash my hair and that's as far as I got.
And I'm doing well. I'm doing Diana, you kind of
have like an undercover bachelor love story. So you were
(45:46):
the bachelorrette in two thousand and eight, right, she doesn't it. Yeah,
it's a really long time ago. It was a very
long time ago. You end up with, you know, an
engagement at the end, but you you didn't end up
with that bachelor related person. Can you let the audience
know how you met your husband one of the Stagliano twins.
I think we should. We should all be really thankful
(46:07):
I didn't end up with that guy, Like we should
all be very joyful and celebrating that because that was
a mess. It was a time in my life that
I would love to forget. So anyway, unfortunately it's on TV,
so you're not forgetting it. Michael Stagliano was on Jillian
Harris's season of the Bachelorette, and that was the first
(46:28):
full season that I had ever watched, and I was
super excited to meet Michael, like in a weird way.
I was like, Oh my god, he's so cute. His
family is so great. I want to hang out with
all them and like go to their house for Christmas.
And then within like two seconds of meeting Michael, I
was like, oh, yeah, no, this is never gonna work.
But do you have like a brother littok similar, a
little bit hotter, a little bit more good looking, Like
(46:51):
can I just have him instead? And yeah, Michael and
I became friends and he ended up dating a friend
of mine and they introduced me to Stephen. And then
six weeks later I was like, I love him, money
to be with him forever. I was still in bachelor time,
I think, which is weird? That is awesome? Is it?
Is it weird now to know that you were attracted
(47:12):
to his brother first? Yes, because I also know Michael
so well. Now we're not looking at him like I
can't believe I ever thought that he was like the
one for a minute. It lasted for just like one minute,
literally one minute, but Michael had the exact same feeling.
As soon as we met each other in person, we
were literally like oh yeah, no, no, hard pass hard pass. Well,
(47:34):
that's great. See, you wouldn't be married and have the
kids that you do today if it weren't for you
being the bachelorette. I know, I know. So I always
joke and say that the outcome of my season it
really was like a difficult time. And I think God
that back then, you know us Weekly was not like
hanging out in the backwoods of noon and Georgia, because
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I really could live off the grid after the show.
And I always felt bad for you know, contestants, people
who are on the show now because it is not
the same, you know, like you guys are really put
through the ringer and the tabloids and with social media
and everything else. I didn't have to go through that,
So I was able to go through this really nasty
breakup somewhat privately other than that privateby YouTube video that's
still out there, But other than that, I was able
(48:16):
to do this like alone and in the privacy of
my own home. So um, I'm thankful for that piece.
Now you are friends with Claire, So how is she
doing today? Oh my gosh. Uh. Actually we sent her
some flowers today because poor Claire Man, she has been
put through the ringer and I think anybody who's been
(48:37):
on the show and the two of you can relate
to this that it is hard and and she's just
been put through the ringer, and the things that people
are saying about her and about her life and stuff
online like can just be really hurtful. And um, so
I just felt bad for her because I feel like
in a period of time where this should be really
joyful for her and this should be a really great
(48:58):
experience and probably one of the most exciting things that
she'll go through, it has not been that for her.
And on most days she's feeling really down about the
things that people are saying about her online and the
editing of the show. So, um, actually, the girls and
I we all sent her some flowers today just let
her know that, like we love her and this is
a blip, Like this will all be done, you know,
it'll be done. What every week outcome is tomorrow night, Right,
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She's gonna walk away and she's gonna be able to
move on and hopefully have someone that she genuinely loves
and can be with and and people will forget about this.
They'll move on. Apparently Tasa will be the next bachelorette.
So you know, hopefully this is a blip in what
just seems like a different, difficult time for her. We
were just talking about that with Blake Courtsmy before you
came on. But how this is like such a high,
(49:41):
right you wait months for this to air, and you're
so excited for people to see your love story and
to celebrate with you and just be involved in your life.
And then and I know, you know, it's still exciting
because now millions of people watch Claire and like that's
this cool thing. But when that turns and it's millions
of people watch you and it feels like the world
is criticizing you. It's such a fall drop from grace
(50:02):
that like it has to hurt, and like I imagine
she just feels super lonely right now because there's really
nobody else that in the world that can relate. Like
nobody can relate. I'm literally trying to reach out to
her on a daily basis, even if she doesn't text back,
and just say like, hey, I'm thinking about you, I'm
praying for you. Just know that this is almost over.
Like you're doing great, You're doing great. I'm trying to
(50:24):
be a cheerleader because I feel like she has so
many cards stacked against her. And something that I think
is so interesting is that when they announced Claire as
the bachelorette, everybody was like, Yes, finally a thirty nine
year old woman who knows exactly what she wants and
she's not messing around and she's not gonna take any
bs for an answer, right, Except now there's so many
people online who are shaming this thirty nine year old
(50:44):
woman who's not taking bs and who knows exactly what
she wants, and now people are hating on her for
that exact thing that we were praising her for in
the very beginning, which I think just sucks, Like it
just sucks. It does well, Uh, we're wishing Claire the best,
and uh, I don't know, like do you wish that
just just goes away? Because that feels sad too, Like, Oh,
(51:05):
this like blip in my life that was super exciting
that I was so pumped for, that I quarantined for
and waited for and got pushed back on. Now we
just at kind of like all hoping it. Let's just
like let it go now for Claire and we can
move on. Like that seems sad too, It really does, like, like,
in the full circle of things, you want to see
people be happy for her, and you want them to
be happy for the love story, and you want them
to be her, you know, cheering her on. But I
(51:28):
just don't know what that's going to happen, which is right,
that's just such a bummer. But Claire does like to
like kind of go back to her regular life. Do
you am I wrong in thinking that? Like she just
wants to a Dale in the privacy of her own
Sacramento circle, and she's happy with that. She doesn't need
any more attention. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good
(51:49):
safe thing to say. Like, um, I've had the luxury
of since we filmed seeing Claire and and getting to
chat with Dale. And you know, Steve and I just
ranted nine years of marriage, so we have definitely weathered
some storms, ups and downs and stuff throughout the years.
But what I tried to encourage Claire with is that
hopefully some really great things will come out of this,
(52:11):
hopefully some really great opportunities, right, I mean, look at
you too. What I encouraged them both to do is
definitely enjoy the ride, take the opportunities, because these things
will you know, they'll forever change the way their lives
go and and to love it and enjoy it, but
also to nurture and and and take care of what
they have. So I think that that would make her
(52:34):
so happy to just be in Sacramento and to live
her life and and live her love story with Dale.
And she's totally fine with that. She's waited a really
long time. Yeah, well again, worship the best. Now, this
is a good moment for us to talk about something
extremely important because you're you're doing it right now. Uh,
we have an election coming up that everybody uh that
(52:55):
can and is able should go vote for your in
line right now getting ready to vote. Uh, just say, hey,
awesome on you. I know you're waiting doing this podcast
as you're in line because it's not super you know,
easy to get a vote in right now. But just
get out there and vote, everybody, Amen, get out there
and vote. I'm really really like worried, I am losing
sleep over the state of our nation right now. So
(53:18):
it is I don't you know, it is so important
to vote. It is so important to vote. Yeah, definitely,
you gotta put your voice out there. So Hey, Diana,
thank you for coming on. Thanks for talking to us. Um.
We want to see more of you, more of you.
Maybe we will on a show in the future, but
until then, rest up, shower up, do everything you need
to do as a mom to feel victorious, awesome. Thank
you guys, have a good day. Bye, Thanks a lot.
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All right, Ben, Well, as the time is running out here,
it is time for my favorite news segment, which is
we didn't name it, but it's story weird stories. Yeah,
storytime with Ben weird near death or very embarrassing stories
that have happened in Ben's life that are not broached
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in alone and plain sighte his new book. But you know,
but you know, they almost let's say they were almost
at it. They were aunorable mentions in the book. That's
the thing. They are hounorable mentions in the book. Didn't
dive into them, so we're gonna dive into them here
on the almost in his podcast, this is the quote
from the book. There was a time a cop delivered
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a trunk stuffed full of toilet paper. After you've got
into a car wreck on your way, Okay, got it.
So this cop discovered that you had a trunk full
of toilet paper while you were on your way to
toilet paper a friend's house. Yeah, so you know the
funny part about storytime with Ben is there's gonna be
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some stories that come up, um in the future that
are super intimate and super vulnerable. And I laugh at
the idea of hearing him and I never know what
story Ashley is gonna pull out. So this is always
off the cuff, always a little nerve racking. Um se
very exciting. So anyways, here's the story. I was sixteen
years old. I had just got in my first car.
It was a Honda Civic I got I bought it
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from my grandfather, who was a car salesman. Great, great dude.
He has now passed away. But um, I had had
it just a few months and I was the only
one in my friend group that could drive, and so
I was always driving them around doing the most ridiculous things.
Is like a freshman sophomore in high school. Well, one
of those things that we enjoyed doing was keeping our
friend's houses, um, because there's just a lot of fun
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to see their parents have to put into all the
words to clean up the trees. Like now that I
think about this at this age, if somebody teeping my
house I'd be so angry, like you'd be the angry
old man. I'd be so mad, just with the idea that, hey,
my Sunday football watching and bourbon drinking is now ruined
by my stupid high school kids friends keeping my house. Anyways,
uh So on a Friday night, uh we went out
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after a football game and just loaded up with toilet paper.
I mean, I'm not kidding you are. My Honda Civic
trunk was stuffed full, like to the point I remember
having to push it down to get it like pushed in.
So we go out in this drive. We're driving on
the road and I'm just a few months into driving,
and I was a very irresponsible driver at that point.
I have not been in a car Wrex since knock
on Wood. Um. But I was driving and I looked
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over my friend in the passenger seat and I was
talking to him, and I looked back in front of me,
and a lady had stopped to turn into a y
M c A and I put my brakes on and
it just wasn't soon enough and I had just completely
rear ended her um and so she was actually turning
in to see her mom, who was working at the
y M. C A. So we turned into the parking lot.
My car is completely totaled, like the front is just
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smashed up, and like her back of her car is
smashed like this is not like a fender binder, this
is a wreck. And and I'm feeling terrible. My parents
are actually at a funeral at that point in time,
and so and I have to call them at his
funeral and asked him to come get me. Well, when
they come get me, uh, the cop had just opened
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up the trunk and because they were searching my car.
I don't really remember why they were fully searching my car, um,
but they were searching my car, probably given the fact
that like I was an idiot and I was sixteen,
and they're like, this guy definitely is up to something.
And inside the trunk, I'm not kidding you, is all
that toilet paper and it just explodes like out of
the car, all over the parking lot. Um. And uh,
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the lady was nice enough to not like do any
further uh stuff with me, even though it was my fault. Um.
But I'll never forget the time that my parents pulled
up already angry out of the funeral. A little bit
sad because it was a friend of theirs to the
parking lot looking at me as I stand behind my
car with a cop looking into my trunk, and the
whole parking lot around my car is full of toilet paper.
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That is as a time in my life that I
won't forget. That's good. That's good that they asked that
the cop. The cop was like, so you were about
to go to paper somebody's house. I mean, I think
it's it was a given. Like, I don't I don't think.
I don't think there's any question that I needed. I mean, like, hey,
I am a healthy eater, um, but I don't think
there was any questions I needed drunk bullet toilet paper. Okay, alright,
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good one. Alright, guys, Well we'll be back later this week.
We're gonna we're going to record on Friday after we
get some fan reaction to the big event on Thursday night.
So we'll talk to you guys then. Hey, with that,
I've been been, I've been Ashley. We'll talk to you later, guys.
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