September 15, 2023 • 41 mins
Ben and Ashley do a last minute wedding check in with Dean and Caelynn before they walk down the aisle!
They say wedding planning is like climbing a mountain, but Dean may have taken that phrase too literally… Find out why his wedding prep has caused some friction between him and his soon to be bride.
Caelynn shares an intimate memory from Paradise when she realized she would never meet anyone like Dean again.
And we find out if little Deans and Caelynns might be coming in the future!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's time for the Almost Famous podcast. We are very
excited today because we have love. I would say this
this episode is about love, it's about kinship, it's about soulmates.
We have Dean and Kaylen here with us to talk
about so many important things coming up. Hello Dean and Kaylen.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey Ben, Hey, Ben and Ashley.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Hey, so your wedding is coming up.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
And I have to say that so many people will
still come up to me after four years of us
being married and five and a half of us being together,
and they're like, can you believe it happened? But like
I think about you guys like that. I think like
you in Paradise and like Dean left, you know, came
(00:54):
back for you, and he was in this phase that
everybody said he was in. Now friends know it's a
little bit more complicateding that, but everybody was like, oh,
he's the target, like f boy, right, Nobody got called
that more than Dean, and look at him proving everybody wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, for the.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Record, I don't think it's fair to compare the two
because your guys story the lead up to it was.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A lot longer than ours at least.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Yeah, Caitlin and I the lead up was less than
a week, but you guys had your whole.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Fin and all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
And so I do think that maybe they're still They're
in the same sport, but you're playing major leagues. We're
playing Triple A baseball essentially. But yeah, no, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It was.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I always refer back to the movie definitely maybe one
of my favorites. Ryan Robitts is amazing and Isla Fisher,
I believe is her name, is also really amazing in
it too, and they have a conversation and they're talking
about finding the perfect person to be with for the
rest of your life. And I think it's Isla Fisher
that says it's not who, but when. And I really
(01:59):
believe if I met Kaylan on the first season of
Paradise that I did Bachelor in Paradise season four when
I wasn't f boy, I don't think it really maybe
it would have.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Worked out, who knows.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
I do think the two years of growth between four
and six, the seasons are really what helped change me
and show me the light and show me, you know,
what kind of person I wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I guess in the future.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So I want to dig into this a little bit
because we've never talked about this on the show. But Dean,
if there's one person that did The Bachelor, that's a
friend of mine that I know personally that I'm like,
he could have cared less if he would have done
this show or not. In fact, I don't think he has,
Like I don't think the show has any impact on
his life other than his like relationship with Kaylan, And
(02:44):
I don't think Dean cares at all about the fame.
I think he likes coming to some of the events
because we have friends there and we get to have
a great time. Sure, but Dean, you're one of I
would say, the few success stories coming from the show.
So you do a show that you don't really want
to do, you're not really thrilled that you did it
(03:05):
after the show, but then you go back on Paradise
and you find love on it. At any point in time,
do this ever feel like a big joke to you,
like that this was like the world like coming back
at you and saying you don't know everything.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Mean there's a lot to I guess unpacked from that,
I do I do appreciate the show.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It helped my bank.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Account quite a bit and so that I'll always have
an incredible amount for it.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
You get a call then and you out on this
because I remember the conversation leading in to Bachelor in
Paradise season six and I was like, Dean, just do
it for the followers and the money, Like why would
you not do it for that?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And you were like the only person I talked to
before season four.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
We hadn't even met yet, and I texted you, I
got your number somehow, and you were like, one thousand
percent you should do it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Why wouldn't you be stupid? Not too?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
What was the question again?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So this ever, like, is this ever like laying in
bed at night or sleeping on the top of a mountain,
which will get into in a little bit. Does it
ever just like feel wild to you that you met
the love of your life on this show?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
You know, I think we can all kind of attest
to it. If you look at it from the outside,
it definitely looks weird, but going through it, like, yeah,
we fell in love on a TV show and that's
weird to say and weird to live, But it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Feel like that at all.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You know, like we're all of us are so far
removed from the show so many years past that like
sure we still talk about it and we have these
podcasts and all these things that we are allowed to do,
but like we don't really incorporate any of that stuff
into our everyday life. So just is it doesn't feel
weird to me. It just feels like we met just
like any other couple might have met. That's how I feel,
(04:46):
at least, how do you feel?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Yeah, I kind of feel the same. I forget often
that we did the show, that we met on the show,
and I mean technically I slid into his DM six
years ago and then bailed on my approval.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We all know that story when you go to that
far the story.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
No, it just doesn't feel it doesn't feel like we're
a reality TV couple. Like I look at I don't know,
these Netflix dating shows and all these different shows, and
they feel like a reality TV couple And I just
don't feel that for us.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Yeah, and I would say the same would be for
you guys as well. I mean Ben, obviously Jess was
never on the show, but like it doesn't see I
feel like what so many people do nowadays, what those
Netflix shows are, Like, they'll they'll try to convince everyone
else that they're in love by posting or doing whatever
they do on social media or whatever it is. And
I feel like the true the couples that are truly
in love don't really feel the need to do that,
(05:34):
you know.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I feel like that maybe that's where we Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
And I feel like we keep a lot of our
relationship private too, Like there are some things that are public,
but then there's a lot that people don't know about us.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I try to be public as public as I can,
but then every time I do, you hit me under
the table and tell me to stop talking about it.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Well, everything h Deane says in the podcast makes a
headline because he's like, so real.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You guys, I actually think it's less weird that we met.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Or unwise because I want to be.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
On I wise unhinged all of it.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
So, Like I've had friends dads come out of the
like my friends from high school's dads have reached out
to me, like sharing a headline of something so stupid
that I said, and they're like, hey, maybe you should
not be such an idiot.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Some time you said that your brother's getting pregnant up.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Was the weirdest by far.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
That is the one that I like called Jared and
been like Jared, wait why Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I'll say a lot of things not realizing it, and
then the aftermath is when I start to put things
in a perspective of what I said. Jokingly obviously, but
like when friends, parents are that you haven't talked to
in a decade are coming out and saying like, hey,
maybe you should button it up a little bit, That's
when you know, maybe, uh maybe, Calen.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
This is like get judgment with that.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
This is like every day with us, So I either
roll my eyes or just laugh it off, and I
forget that this isn't normal for other people to be
hearing it. And then we get the headline.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah sorry, the uh well, the headlines. I don't think
the head lines have given Dean enough credit. But this
is a question for Kaylen. Dean is currently accomplishing something,
Kylen that is incredibly impressive, and I'll explain why it's
so impressive in a bit. But Dean is, in short,
climbing every fourteen er in the state of Colorado leading
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up to your wedding to get in better shape for
the wedding.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
What's a fourteener for those who don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's a mountain that's fourteen thousand feet at its peak.
And so, Caylen, he's been gone a lot leading up
to this wedding. How has that been for you? You
are You're similar to my wife in a lot of
ways where you can function alone pretty well. But I
know there is a tad of missing your partner, especially
(07:45):
as you lead up to a wedding. So walk us
through what you've been doing leading up to this wedding
while Dean has been getting in shape.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
Well, I'm not. I'm not accomplishing anything quite as impressive as.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You absolutely are. What every day is an accomplishment?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh, beautifully supportive, But no, this is like Dean does
these things, like you know, he goes to Pakistani, goes
to Antarctica, he does all of these like crazy wild adventures.
Stop and this one has been the longest. So it
definitely got to the point where I called him and
I was like, I just miss you and I don't
want to like, I don't want to miss you, Like
(08:20):
it's just been you know, three months, and it's been
too long. And I was talking to my therapist and
she was the one who brought me to that realization.
And she was like, it sounds like you just miss him,
Like can't you just say that? And I was like, Oh,
I just don't really like talking about feelings or like
admitting that. So I finally admitted it to him and
I was like, no, I miss you. And it's yeah,
it's been a long three months. I'm super proud of him.
(08:41):
I'm super happy for him, but I'm very excited it's
almost over.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Yeah, we got We got in a little scuffle a
couple of weeks ago because there was a culmination of
that what she was just talking about, and I like
got into a pretty hairy situation on one of the mountains.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
Yeah, Dane like he's doing this and then he puts
himself in situations to make it more scary because he
gets bored, and that really freaks me out. I'm like,
you're already doing this, I already have anxiety. Now you're
doing things that are more dangerous, which really makes me angry.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Yeah, And I was like texting her about it, like
explaining the story, and I was like embellishing some certain
details just to make it seer interesting for you, and
I didn't realize that she was feeling this way, and
had I known that, I obviously would have maybe eased
up a little soft into the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Story a little bit.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
But yeah, we got not in like an argument, but
there was a contentious phone call.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I guess about it all.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
But I do feel like it's been three months. Yes,
but I have been splitting time pretty well. I've been
home a lot. I've been seeing you at least twice
a month, which I now that I say that doesn't
sound like very.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Much as you lead up to a wedding. It's fantastic time,
It's like really great.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Like the timing sucks, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know, it's Uh, I've known Dean for a long time.
I've loved Dean for a long time. Uh, it's it's
great as I hear this story, because what I go
to first is I remember min any conversations, and one
in particular with Dean. You know where he wasn't I
don't know. I think Dean and I shared a little
bit of it. I think it came out differently, But
I don't know if Dean ever believed he was really
(10:11):
going to be truly loved and missed and liked by
somebody that would want to spend their life with him.
And so this is the weirdest thing ever. Well, but
it's Dean. Well he's a beautiful man. Yes, But you know,
for Kaylin to miss you and communicate with that with
you and also be really flustered when you tell her
(10:32):
that you are running into bad situations, that's a that's
very like that for me, that's weird, but it's a
victory like you know, you found it, buddy. But to
give some like insight into what you are doing now,
I want to spend a little time on this. There
are I think fifty eight correct me if I'm wrong,
fourteen ers in the state of Colorado. I know obviously
(10:55):
I live here. I know a lot of people who
have done them. I know people who have done different
sets of peaks each year. I know people that try
to cross off all fifty eight peaks by the time
that they aren't able to hike anymore, and that always
is a massive accomplishment. I have friends that try to go,
you know, do one every weekend. I have never, honestly,
(11:19):
and ten years of living here, never heard of anybody say, hey,
I'm going to do all fifty eight peaks in a year.
I'm sure there are some, especially somebody who I played
golf with. After the first peak, which was three months ago,
he said, Hey, in three months, I'm going to do
all fifty eight because these are brutal I've done on myself.
They're exhausting. Dean, spend a little time here explain to
the listeners what you are doing, because to me it
(11:40):
makes very little sense.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Well, to your first point, I want to mention when
we were getting in that scuffle last week or two
weeks ago, I was getting upset that I was like, well,
I was getting upset about the whole situation for whatever reason.
I was like, this is my goal. I'm doing whatever
I can to achieve it. And then I took a
step back and I thought about how lucky I was
to have someone in my life that cared enough to.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Have feelings about me being away, and I.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Just took a step back, and I was like, I'm
really grateful to have Klin in my life to care
enough about me to want me to come home and
hang out with her. So I just wanted to mention
that that was a realization that I had not too
long ago. Either, but yeah, the fourteen ers growing up
in Colorado. I love the outdoors. I love the state
(12:27):
of Colorado so much. I think it's the best state
in the US for so many reasons. California is great too,
and I'm sure there's many many others, but just as
a Colorado kud, I've loved it so much, and I've
always closely associated myself with like the lifestyle of Colorado,
which is like more outdoors, you know, all that kind
of stuff. And then once we decided to get married
in Colorado in the mountains, nonetheless, I like, I just
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feel like I owed it to myself to be the
person that I always thought I was as far as
like the Colorado vibe, for lack of a better word, goes,
and not to necessarily earn the right to get married
in Colorado, but to feel more comfortable with that because
I so closely identify with the things that the state
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represents so much. And yeah, so there's fifty eight of them.
They're all over fourteen thousand feet, which you know is
pretty high. I don't really get altitude sickness that a
lot of people do kind of suffer from that, but
I have never really dealt with it, and a big
reason too was I hate going to the gym and
I wanted to lose weight and look good at the wedding.
So I lost twenty pounds, which is really nice. Yeah,
(13:30):
really good. I haven't really been drinking much booze, which
is a big part of that as well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
I just wanted to be able to stand up there
on the altar in the mountains in Colorado with the
love of my life and feel more at peace or
at home or comfortable, whatever it is. And this was
like the way that I decided to make it happen
that way, I.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Guess most challengingly, it's a challenging Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
The thing is they are hard. Many of them are easy,
but a lot of them are also really hard.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But like it just you can just do it. You
all have to do is just do it, and then
you know. Then you did it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, you have to know. You don't know. No, you
don't have to just do it. You have to do
it and then go. I have fifty seven more to go.
I have fifty five more to go, because Ashley, here's
something for you, right. I usually do one or two
a year. I do one a tour or two a
year because they are an all day event. I mean
you leave at the Kraka non for me, most of mine, Dean,
(14:31):
you probably have been able to do them faster. They
can take a good five to seven hours is typically
like how long it takes of straight walking, and half
of that or over half of that because it's faster
going down. Is up fourteen thousand feet, That's insane.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's fourteen thousand feet, so okay, so it's three miles
about in the air.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, and that's just like above that's the elevation above
sea level. So typically you're gonna start most of around
like nine to ten thous feet, so you're gaining four
thousand feet maybe five thousand feet, depending on the mountain obviously,
but then that's over the course of ten miles.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And it's funny.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I just did the fifty sixth one two days ago,
and I finally feel like I'm in shape now, And
it's just it's kind of annoying that now at the
very end of it, I feel like I can hike fast,
hike stronger, hike longer, like those types of things. But
now it's over, so it's like, now what do I do?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Are you going to finish all fifty eight.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I'm gonna finish. Yeah, So I have two left, the
Maroon Bells.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I'm gonna do the traverse, and I'm doing it the
day before we leave for the wedding festivities with my brother,
who I climbed the first one with a couple of
years ago. So it'll be like a good full circle moment.
We're changing our last name to Bell the mountains. The
two mountains are called the Bells, so I thought it
would be a good capstone as well.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And it's an aspen.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
So yeah, so I have two more to do, going
to do them next week on Wednesday. But yeah, it's
interesting because it is a challenge and it's such a
great accomplishment.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm so so proud of it.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
But like I said, it's just like it's more of
like a psychological challenge than it is a physical challenge
at this point at least, where there's just so many
of them, and like you have to continue to motivate
yourself to do these things, and some of them aren't fun,
so you just have to like, you know, grate your
teeth and get through the boringness of it all. And
so that's why Kaylen, and I got an argument because
I needed to spice it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Spice it up in the relationship a little bit.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Spice up the hikes, which makes it more dangerous, which
then puts more stress on her.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay, So, Kaylan, you get a text from Dean and
then we'll get off of the mountain climbs. I just
think it's something not only to be celebrated forcus it
is a huge accomplishment, but also to be confused by,
which is also very fair and doing fifty eight fourteen years.
And when you're Kaylen, you get a text from Dean
that frightens you or makes you feel uneasy? What do
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you understand of the situation and the story that happened
on the mountains with Dean?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
So this one specifically that he's referring to. He yeah,
I was embellishing, but I didn't know that he was embellishing.
But he was also so upset. He's like sliding down
the mountain. He's falling, he said, he's fallen so many times.
He could be encountering bears, and he's bush whacking right
by a river that no man's ever touched, is what
he said. Yea, all this stuff, but I can tell
(17:20):
he's so mad, and I'm fuming because I'm like, it
is nine pm, you're still hiking. You chose to leave
at noon when you should have left at six am.
You're putting yourself in this situation. Drops his phone, he
has to hike back up because he dropped his phone,
like all these things. But he's so mad. So I
was like, I can't let him know that I'm mad
right now because he's so frustrated. I can't imagine how
(17:41):
frustrated he is. So I let myself go to bed
and not really say anything. And then the next day
or two days later, after he hit that's what we
talked about.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah, that one was.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
It was fifteen miles, two peaks, and a lot of elevation.
I started at two pm, which is way too late.
I was a quarter mile up and I realized I've
forgot my head lamp, and I just like, whatever, I
don't need.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
I was so mad about that.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
My map took me down this crazy route which actually
ended up just being a river, and so I was
the only person that I probably had hike there all
all in the history of man. And it was dark
and I'm bushwhacking and I have my phone flashlight, and
like it could be bear country, who knows, you know,
like they'll stay away from the more trotten paths, but
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since no one's really been over here, that might be
where they like to congregate. And so I was like
singing out loud to myself the whole time, and like
she said, I kept falling. And the thing with this
one was there was no redeeming qualities of the hike,
Like I can't look back and be like, oh, that sucked.
But there was this one moment where I climbed this
rock and it was really awesome. Like the whole thing
was just like long and steep and exhausting, and so
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there was there was nothing to be happy about it
except for it being done.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I guess that's why I was so worked up about it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, do you normally like go on trails or
is it just kind of going up the hill where
whatever what you find?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, most of them have trails.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
There's been a few where in order to make it
more interesting, I don't go on a trail, I guess,
but but yeah, yeah, yeah there's there's trails usually.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, No, this all ties into your wedding, because wasn't
the goal to do it all before the wedding day
and then once you were married, you were going to
quote calm down with the explorations.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, I don't know if i'ssarily calm down per se.
I still think that the bug is still in me.
I'll do obviously a lot more exploring with Klan, which
would be great. And that's the thing too, Like I
would have loved for Kaylin to have joined me for
some of these, but I understand if you're not locked
into the mindset of climbing a mountain, it's hard to
get motivated to do it, especially when it's hard and
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you're tired and get cold or whatever. But there's no
plans immediately after the wedding to go out and climb
Dnali or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Maybe next year.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
There's so much here to then transfer into the wedding.
First off, Kayl and I I spent many nights talking
about the two of you. I think whn Dean first
told me that, hey, he's going to do this because
he was going to calm down, and I was talking
to Jess and I was like, I don't feel like
I've had to calm down or stop most of my
(20:28):
life because I'm married like that that is something I
don't know who's telling people that, But there's a lot
of freedom in marriage, I've found. And as he's been
climbing these you have been planning a wedding that is
coming up very soon, and to kind of transition to
that has him being away made it easier for you
(20:49):
to plan this wedding because you know, he maybe doesn't
have as much of an opinion on things, or has
it been harder. How's the wedding process been.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Yeah, I think it's been a comedy of both. I
really really love planning, so I've I've been having a
blast of this, Like I feel like I should have
done this professionally because I love it so much. But
there are things where like I want his opinion and
maybe he doesn't have service where he's like not super
responsive because he's been climbing. There's a lot of decisions
(21:18):
I made on my own and he just has to
live with it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, And well that's the thing too, I want to
live with it. I want you to make.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
All these decisions because you have such great taste and
your opinion is more is worth so much more when
it comes to this space, I think, and yes, I
want to be equal partners when it comes to planning
all these things.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But like, if you want something a certain.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Way, I don't want it another way to the point
where I'm going to fight you on it because.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I want you to have everything your way, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Yeah, And the important things like we agreed on together,
like our first dance song, his aisle song I wanted
him to pick out and it's very him. I don't
think anyone's ever walked down the aisle to the song
that you sure?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
But yeah, I know that there was a men's aisle song.
Did you guys do that at your writings?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I was already I think I did, Yeah, because I
kind of walked down with my like groom's men before
everybody else. And I think there's a unique song playing.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Then Okay, that's pretty unique.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's pretty What was your song, Ben? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't remember. I knew you're asked. I was like,
but as far.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
As the wedding planning goes, like I try to be involved,
but we have two wedding planners who are fantastic and
they're they're absolutely crushing it for us, and it's it's
really the biggest obstacle that we've been faced with with
this whole thing is just the people that own the.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Venue have been a bit of a challenge to deal
with that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
They say something and then they go back on their word,
and then they change everything completely, and then we agree
to something, but then they think that we agree to
something else and it's and.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
We put our deposits down, so we're kind of stuck
into it. That's been the most stressful part of the
whole process is the venue and do with the people
behind it. And I'm excited to never have to deal.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
With it again.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah. Yeah, we're excited for the wedding because we don't
want to have to deal with them.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, speaking of the venue, I know that Jared asked
you this on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
We're so excited to check it out people, But Jared
was like, it seems so dean, but actually, Kaylen, you
were the one that was really wanting it to be here,
and that also I just want to like kind of
like tie it into just your overall essence. I was
at dinner with a few, like outside dinner with Jill Chen,
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you know, from from Bachelor Vision yesterday and she was like,
I feel like Kaylen is such a different person, not
in like a good way. Then she was back on
her seasons, like she was the pageant girl in her
season right, and now she's this nature girl.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
So how like, how has.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Dean evolved you into this being now like kind of
your style as well?
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Yeah, I think you brought out a lot of parts
of me that were always there, but like I could
embrace more, Like I never I were a makeup like
I feel like three times a month now, I like
never wear versus before I would always wear makeup every
single day. Like was fully like that pageant girl and
not really comfortable in myself. I was like, you know,
had this facade on all the time. And I don't know,
(24:20):
I've just been able to embrace myself and enjoy the
outdoors like it's still you know, hiking is a challenge,
but I'm getting better, but I do enjoy like being
in nature a lot more. And just that whole aspect.
That's that he's introduced.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Me too well.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And as you said too, that's been a part of
your family for so long. Your miller size, Yeah, her
grandparents have a sprinter van. Her uncle has hiked a
bunch of fourteen ers as well.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
I just never thought it was like something ingrained in
me and something I could do. It was like me
limiting myself. And Dean is really good at pushing himself
and telling himself that he can do anything, and part
of our relationship has been like telling me, I can
also do anything that you can.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah, some times you struggle with it still, but you
can do more than I can. So yeah, I don't know,
but yes, I mean it's The wedding venue thing was
funny because I didn't even know that we were going
to get married in Colorado. There was one venue in
particular that or two venues in particular that I.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Was really gung ho about. One of them was expensive.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I thought we were gonna get a friend discount because
my friend owns it, but his sister didn't let us.
The other one was they gave me a scholarship to
go to college, and so I was excited to maybe
potentially get married on their property because they basically helped
me get a higher education, which I really appreciated. But
the venue just didn't work out for what we wanted.
And then we went up and saw this one. It
was the second one that we saw and we pulled
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up and Kaln's like, this is it. I was like,
we haven't even we haven't even gone out of the
car yet. What are you talking about. She's like, I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
This is it. I know this is exactly where we
want to get married.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
And it was covered in snow. We couldn't even see it.
But I really wanted it to be an experience, Like
I don't know, I've talked to so many people who
have gotten married and they can't really spend time with
everyone that they want to, and so I wanted the
weekend to be all about our friends and family getting
together and have that quality time with them. So the
unique venue kind of.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Allows for that.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Just like slow down, not be stressed, and enjoy everyone.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Yeah, and sorry, I just I feel like we're just
talking on over here.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I just want to say too, your weddings are amazing.
But what we really wanted to do, and what Kayln
I think really wanted to do too, was like make
it more. You know, like if you go to a
wedding and everyone's kind of like doing their own thing
until the ceremony happens, that's great. But what Kaylen wanted
to do was make it more of like a group
group dynamic, and so everyone's going to be like staying
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on the property. We have like games and stuff planned
and hopefully it just makes it more of like.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
A unique experience. We're all about the unique experience.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, it's going to be. I mean, I know this
area and it's it's got to be one of the
most beautiful places in the US where you guys are
getting married. And I think for anybody that's coming from
la or maybe not, has never been in the Colorado Mountains,
I think they're going to be shocked.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
That would be me.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, I think you're going to be shocked at just
what the mountains do for you and to you and
what and and kind of what you see and experience.
And you know, I've been to Colorado weddings where there's
been a moose walk through the wedding, where there's been
a bear, you know, like coming through and everybody has
to come in from the reception because the bear is
down to eat the food. Like those are the things
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that make it amazing and special. Well as you know,
as we kind of dive in and as you get
a week away, I would love to hear both of
your kind of emotions around the idea that you are
getting married next week or you know a little over
a week away, that this is coming up soon, that
(27:44):
you've kind of been prepping for it for a while.
And so I want to start with Kaylin, how are
you feeling, you know about being married.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
I'm excited. I mean, it's just so crazy because I
had a crush on Dean for so long and like.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
It it's really crazy.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
I remember seeing you on my TV and I was like,
that guy is so hot and handsome, and then I
met you and thought the same thing. And it's just
so wild that I'm marrying this guy that I watched
on TV and had the biggest crush on ever. And
you know, we've created this life together. We live in
a home. We do kind of feel married. But it's
nice to actually go through with the wedding and call
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him my husband, which is crazy. This is our last
week of being fiance's before we're husband and wife.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But he.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I was like just going through my vows and like
trying to fine tune them and stuff, and this is
potentially I don't know in them. But I remember when
he dumped me on the beach and I was like
so heartbroken. And it wasn't necessarily like I had loved
him yet, but I knew that I would never meet
anyone like Dan ever again, Like he is the most
(28:52):
special person ever, and so I was like, it's all
downhill from here, like I'm screwed yea, And so it's
just crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I just love him so much.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Agree with that, Dean.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Oh, I love that so much.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
It's so relatable to be like, look, I well it
sucks because now I'm going to have to marry my
second place.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yes, I'm not going to be with him.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I really helped you out there, didn't I. Yeah, it's
weird to be such a chick.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's weird to.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Be marrying a fan. I guess I never expected that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You free.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I guess that's cool. Yeah, I know, you're right. I'm
excited to be married.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Obviously, I've been pretty marriage averse for a large portion
of my life, and then even the first probably half
of our relationship, I was pretty marriage averse. Not that
I was lifelong partnership averse, because I think once Kaitlyn
came into my life is pretty It didn't maybe happen
as fast as it did for me as it did
for you, but it was pretty quick for me to
know that I was wanting to spend the rest of
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my life with.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You, and the wedding is just.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
An way to kind of like seal the deal on that,
which is really nice and I agree like going around
and being able to call you my wife instead of
having to say do I say fiance, do I say girlfriend?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Do I say wife? That'll be nice to not have
to worry about that anymore.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
But yeah, it's great kind of what you were alluding
to earlier, Ben like having someone in your life that
cares about you more than you care about yourself is
a really really interesting feeling. It's something I've never really
experienced in my life until now. And just to know
that for the next sixty or seventy or eighty years,
like we're always going to have each other's back, and
you have a bad day, you can come in and
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complain to your partner about how bad of a day
you had, and.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You can kind of rely on that.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Like, it's pretty cool to be able to know that
we're going to get to just continue to build and
grow together for however.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Long we get to live.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I do feel like I'm going to be like one
hundred and eighty years old when I die. Caitlin might
make it two hundred, So it sucks.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
For me, like eighty years if you're in a widow
or but I'll take anything I can get.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Every day is a blessing and I'm super super happy
to be able to continue to build on that. And
it just feels like too, like our relationship is so young.
You know, you guys have both been in your relationships
for probably a little bit longer than us.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm sure you can attest too like.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
It feels like we just started dating like a week
ago in a lot of ways, but obviously we don't.
Like we know more about each other than anyone else
on this planet, and so it's just it's an exciting
time for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Ashlely, Can I ask one question real quick that was
on the rundown that I don't understand? Yeah, I really
have no clue where this comes from. I've never heard it.
I don't know what's going on here, but it was
written down on the prep and I had got to
ask it. It says you're considering becoming born again virgin
pre wedding? Is this still something you're doing?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
This is definitely something that they made mention of that
he shouldn't have made mention of.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Okay, Duane's just talking out of his butt again.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Sounds pretty standard for me. I don't even remember why
I brought that up.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
You were like, that would be so cool if we
didn't have sex until the wedding. Oh yeah, so we
would become born again virgins.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, well you can go the next week.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Wow. Yeah, okay, so we're nine days away. I'm assuming
this is no longer a part of the plan.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, start the hell.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I'm I'm so glad you threw that one in.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Ben, I'm done. That was all I got. I saw it.
I was like, I don't give what's going on here,
but I want to ask.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
All right, Yeah, I think my problem is I feel
like on these podcasts, especially when Jared is co hosting
and Kaylen sit right next to me, I just feel
I forget that people listen to this and I just
talk like I'm talking to my friends, and so it
just gets out of handsome time.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That that makes good content.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
All right, So, Kaylin, we've seen you try on so
many dresses on social media and like, oh my goodness,
you're gonna look good in everything.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Did you settle on just one or you're gonna have multiples?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I have a ceremony dress and a reception.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yes, okay, cool? And like, do you want to tell
a style?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Is it what we'd expect from a nature wedding or
is it different?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Different?
Speaker 8 (33:08):
It was surprisingly so easy for me because I did pageants,
so I've worn so many different styles of dresses since
I was fifteen, and there were two styles that I like,
I knew I wanted. I went in and I was like,
I want this style for the reception and I want
this style for the ceremony. So the second dress I
tried on was the dress I'm wearing for the ceremony
or yeah, ceremony, and then I think it was like
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the fourth dress or my reception. So I knew immediately
super easy. I feel like they're not super natury.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Okay, get a train, Yes, you are going to have
a train.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Did you think no?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Well no, I didn't think you were going to And
that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Are you gonna have a veil?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, oh that's awesome.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Any other questions, Uh, garter.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yes, okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Something blue, something borrowed, and something new.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, my grandma just said she has her handkerchief. I
think she's like eighty five. Her handkerchief from when she
was eighteen years old, and it's blue and it's old.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So and her grandparents are letting me wear their pocket
walk I know.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
I was like, you kind of have the old and
borrowed covered because it's my grandma's dad's pocket watch. It's
this vintage cool pocket watch. So he's gonna be wearing that.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
And I also have a ceremony interception outfit. I'm changing
between the two.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yes, here, you are so Dean, like, there's a lot
of talk around your outfit because you wanted to wear
some silly stuff like what is that called? Like those
things with strings that cowboys wear around their neck.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Dean and I wore these the VMA's together. Yeah, and
with a T shirt. Oh no, we looked really good
at that.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I remember that VMA Awards. That was pretty funny. Yeah.
I my style is bad.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
It gets worse every year. I feel like I used
to be semi stylish. I've not really so much anymore.
But yeah, I've got a bunch of bolow ties that
I'm gonna decide on the day of, and I've got
a long tail tuxedo with shock. Caitlyn wasn't really super
keen on it first, but I think she's maybe come
around on it. But that was the reason I got
I got a second talx just in case the long
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tail ends up feeling silly the day of, so then
I'll just have a backup. But I don't think it will,
and so that what I'll do is I'll just change
between them between the ceremony and the reception. But yeah,
my style is it's not about me obviously that day
at all, but it is, well, it's about you.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
All eyes are going to be on you. That's perfectly fine.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
It's about us.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's about us.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
I'm not marrying myself.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Sure you're not, but I'm just saying, like, all of
the attendees are going to be looking.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
At you, not looking at me.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
They'll be looking at you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
They're not not even going to realize that I changed
TUXI does.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
But you are going to wear the bow? Wellow, how
do you say.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Itlolo and Caitlyn. You didn't want him to, but now
you're cool.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I like it.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
With his second outfit. But the first outfit it should
be more formal with a bow tie or something.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You look great in a bow tie. I know John
Johnson comes out, he.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
Thinks it's so basic. But I saw Sophia Bush. Her
wedding was so beautiful. It was bed What do you mean.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
They're being divorced?
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Oh? Sei is okay?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
He was just really cool bow tie.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
It was like, I think it's called a western bow tie.
It's like a thinner one and it's.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Actually like a bow. Oh yeah, that.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Sounds ugly, but it looks cool and it droops down.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, I'll get I mean, I'm gonna buy a bow tie.
I'm going to have options, that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
But my my instinct and my intuition is telling me
to wear the bolo tie, to wear the long tail.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
I like the long tail with the bow tie, and
then bulletie for the second.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
We'll see. That's the thing. I can cycle through the options.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Okay, so many things to decide in just nine days.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna have been in the in the room
helping me get dressed, and he can tell me what
he thinks looks best and what doesn't look good.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So I mean, I did you well. I remember when
Diana and I chose he was together. Yeah, he was
my date to an awards show, and I didn't I
didn't like know what to wear to this thing. I
had no idea, So I texted Diana. I was like,
what do you wear to a red carpet show when
everybody's taking pictures and everybody's going to be like better
(37:01):
looking and more suave than you and I? And we're like,
let's go T shirts, jackets, bulow ties and just see
where it takes us. And we did, and we might
have got best dressed. We definitely pulled it off.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
And the fact that we both like matched but didn't
match was was a big selling point as well. I
remember one thing that sticks out to me about that
night was I had just gotten a new haircut and
I think, like, maybe I did it myself or my
friend did it, and it just looks so bad.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
It was the American Music Awards. I didn't think, like
the v.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
We weren't cool enough to get invited to the VMA's
that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
And now I see this and this is what.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
They're saying, Oh it looks good.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Oh I'm gonna send this to you guys. Did you
google it too?
Speaker 8 (37:46):
This does look good, way better than I don't know
why I was picturing you guys wear your like cow
shirt and wolf shirt with a bolo tie.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Well, I tell you what, you two are a beautiful couple.
We're very excited to be there to celebrate with the
two of you. In fact, final questions, you're going on
a honeymoon. I'm assuming. I don't know anything about this.
I haven't heard about it. Are you leaving right away?
Where are you going?
Speaker 8 (38:13):
No, we are going to South Africa in December, and
Dean on our podcast just told me for the first time,
we're doing a mini moon and we're going to Madeira.
I'm really excited.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
About sweet plan.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Mini moon.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, mini moon, well, just because it's how the Africa
wouldn't happen till December.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
That's so far away.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Are we still going to Hawaii together?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (38:31):
In October. I'm pumped.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
In October then, yeah, we're going to Hawaii together.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
So I actually we were falling asleep last night and
I was like, do you think Ben's going to bring
his golf clubs to Hawaii?
Speaker 3 (38:41):
And I don't know, you should ask it. So, Ben,
are you going to bring our golf clubs to Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I am buddy.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Hey, we love you so much.
One more questions.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
I have to interrupt you because I see another weird
one on the rundown.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That must be.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Dean after the wedding due plan on reversing you.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Oh man, that's just gonna be half that. We have
to talk about that. I guess at some point.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
The iHeart producers know way too much about you.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Wait, why I didn't know. I didn't know you had
a vasectomy.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
I don't, but I might get one after the wedding,
just so I could reverse it, Dean, just but just
so I could reverse it, get it done.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
So hot and.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
Cold, He's like, I want kids.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Maybe I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh my gosh, we want to.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Get one so you can say he reversed it. Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, So that's just stupid because I have buddies that
are at their age where they're getting them. Dean, don't
do that to yourself. There's so much to that, Like it.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Hurts, no guarantee the bes.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
It's so funny how hot and cold we've been as
a couple too, like she really wanted kids. When we
first started, I didn't, and now I really want kids
and she doesn't, and so it's just it's gonna be
I do.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm just we're not.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Yeah, we're not ready yet, but both my brothers are
so many years and seeing them be parents has like
lit this fire within me. And we like thought maybe
we were pregnant like a month ago, but then we
turned out not to be, and I was like really
sad about it. You were, yeah, of course as that,
and Kaitlyn was like screaming it from the rooftop, was
(40:09):
like and over, I'm like sulking in the corner over here.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's weird that you thought she was pregnant when you
guys haven't had heard immaculate conception.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Right, guys.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Okay, I don't want to be the mom that now
like tells all my other friends that they need to
have kids, because I've already do this with Ben often.
But listen, you guys are definitely meant to be mom
and dad someone.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
But like he's just playing, let's just do it, because
like Dean and I are about the same age, Kaylin
and Jess about the same age. Let's just plan this out.
At the same time.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
What's your timeline, Ben, I don't know, soon probably yeah,
well okay, well let's just keep us posted on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Everything sorted out in Hawaii? Yeah, there we go, everyono
can see. Yeah, wouldn that'd be great to Hawaii babies.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Very confusing.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Hey, we're very Yeah, we're very excited for the two
of you. This has been a long time coming. We
cannot wait to celebrate with you. I know our listeners
are excited to see the pictures. Uh, Dean, I hope
you're posting all the wedding pictures and not just mountain pictures.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
It'd be nice to finally get a new post up,
but that's not on top of a mountain.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Ye. So but until well, lessen two weeks from now.
We'll see you soon. Thanks, thanks for having us, guys.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
We love you, baby, you guys very excited.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's time for the Almost Famous podcast. We are very
excited today because we have love. I would say this
this episode is about love, it's about kinship, it's about soulmates.
We have Dean and Kaylen here with us to talk
about so many important things coming up. Hello Dean and Kaylen.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey Ben, Hey, Ben and Ashley.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Hey, so your wedding is coming up.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
And I have to say that so many people will
still come up to me after four years of us
being married and five and a half of us being together,
and they're like, can you believe it happened? But like
I think about you guys like that. I think like
you in Paradise and like Dean left, you know, came
(00:54):
back for you, and he was in this phase that
everybody said he was in. Now friends know it's a
little bit more complicateding that, but everybody was like, oh,
he's the target, like f boy, right, Nobody got called
that more than Dean, and look at him proving everybody wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, for the.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Record, I don't think it's fair to compare the two
because your guys story the lead up to it was.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A lot longer than ours at least.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Yeah, Caitlin and I the lead up was less than
a week, but you guys had your whole.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Fin and all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
And so I do think that maybe they're still They're
in the same sport, but you're playing major leagues. We're
playing Triple A baseball essentially. But yeah, no, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It was.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I always refer back to the movie definitely maybe one
of my favorites. Ryan Robitts is amazing and Isla Fisher,
I believe is her name, is also really amazing in
it too, and they have a conversation and they're talking
about finding the perfect person to be with for the
rest of your life. And I think it's Isla Fisher
that says it's not who, but when. And I really
(01:59):
believe if I met Kaylan on the first season of
Paradise that I did Bachelor in Paradise season four when
I wasn't f boy, I don't think it really maybe
it would have.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Worked out, who knows.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
I do think the two years of growth between four
and six, the seasons are really what helped change me
and show me the light and show me, you know,
what kind of person I wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I guess in the future.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So I want to dig into this a little bit
because we've never talked about this on the show. But Dean,
if there's one person that did The Bachelor, that's a
friend of mine that I know personally that I'm like,
he could have cared less if he would have done
this show or not. In fact, I don't think he has,
Like I don't think the show has any impact on
his life other than his like relationship with Kaylan, And
(02:44):
I don't think Dean cares at all about the fame.
I think he likes coming to some of the events
because we have friends there and we get to have
a great time. Sure, but Dean, you're one of I
would say, the few success stories coming from the show.
So you do a show that you don't really want
to do, you're not really thrilled that you did it
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after the show, but then you go back on Paradise
and you find love on it. At any point in time,
do this ever feel like a big joke to you,
like that this was like the world like coming back
at you and saying you don't know everything.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Mean there's a lot to I guess unpacked from that,
I do I do appreciate the show.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It helped my bank.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Account quite a bit and so that I'll always have
an incredible amount for it.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
You get a call then and you out on this
because I remember the conversation leading in to Bachelor in
Paradise season six and I was like, Dean, just do
it for the followers and the money, Like why would
you not do it for that?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And you were like the only person I talked to
before season four.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
We hadn't even met yet, and I texted you, I
got your number somehow, and you were like, one thousand
percent you should do it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Why wouldn't you be stupid? Not too?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
What was the question again?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So this ever, like, is this ever like laying in
bed at night or sleeping on the top of a mountain,
which will get into in a little bit. Does it
ever just like feel wild to you that you met
the love of your life on this show?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
You know, I think we can all kind of attest
to it. If you look at it from the outside,
it definitely looks weird, but going through it, like, yeah,
we fell in love on a TV show and that's
weird to say and weird to live, But it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Feel like that at all.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You know, like we're all of us are so far
removed from the show so many years past that like
sure we still talk about it and we have these
podcasts and all these things that we are allowed to do,
but like we don't really incorporate any of that stuff
into our everyday life. So just is it doesn't feel
weird to me. It just feels like we met just
like any other couple might have met. That's how I feel,
(04:46):
at least, how do you feel?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Yeah, I kind of feel the same. I forget often
that we did the show, that we met on the show,
and I mean technically I slid into his DM six
years ago and then bailed on my approval.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We all know that story when you go to that
far the story.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
No, it just doesn't feel it doesn't feel like we're
a reality TV couple. Like I look at I don't know,
these Netflix dating shows and all these different shows, and
they feel like a reality TV couple And I just
don't feel that for us.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Yeah, and I would say the same would be for
you guys as well. I mean Ben, obviously Jess was
never on the show, but like it doesn't see I
feel like what so many people do nowadays, what those
Netflix shows are, Like, they'll they'll try to convince everyone
else that they're in love by posting or doing whatever
they do on social media or whatever it is. And
I feel like the true the couples that are truly
in love don't really feel the need to do that,
(05:34):
you know.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I feel like that maybe that's where we Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
And I feel like we keep a lot of our
relationship private too, Like there are some things that are public,
but then there's a lot that people don't know about us.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I try to be public as public as I can,
but then every time I do, you hit me under
the table and tell me to stop talking about it.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Well, everything h Deane says in the podcast makes a
headline because he's like, so real.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You guys, I actually think it's less weird that we met.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Or unwise because I want to be.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
On I wise unhinged all of it.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
So, Like I've had friends dads come out of the
like my friends from high school's dads have reached out
to me, like sharing a headline of something so stupid
that I said, and they're like, hey, maybe you should
not be such an idiot.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Some time you said that your brother's getting pregnant up.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Was the weirdest by far.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
That is the one that I like called Jared and
been like Jared, wait why Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I'll say a lot of things not realizing it, and
then the aftermath is when I start to put things
in a perspective of what I said. Jokingly obviously, but
like when friends, parents are that you haven't talked to
in a decade are coming out and saying like, hey,
maybe you should button it up a little bit, That's
when you know, maybe, uh maybe, Calen.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
This is like get judgment with that.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
This is like every day with us, So I either
roll my eyes or just laugh it off, and I
forget that this isn't normal for other people to be
hearing it. And then we get the headline.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah sorry, the uh well, the headlines. I don't think
the head lines have given Dean enough credit. But this
is a question for Kaylen. Dean is currently accomplishing something,
Kylen that is incredibly impressive, and I'll explain why it's
so impressive in a bit. But Dean is, in short,
climbing every fourteen er in the state of Colorado leading
(07:17):
up to your wedding to get in better shape for
the wedding.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
What's a fourteener for those who don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's a mountain that's fourteen thousand feet at its peak.
And so, Caylen, he's been gone a lot leading up
to this wedding. How has that been for you? You
are You're similar to my wife in a lot of
ways where you can function alone pretty well. But I
know there is a tad of missing your partner, especially
(07:45):
as you lead up to a wedding. So walk us
through what you've been doing leading up to this wedding
while Dean has been getting in shape.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
Well, I'm not. I'm not accomplishing anything quite as impressive as.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You absolutely are. What every day is an accomplishment?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh, beautifully supportive, But no, this is like Dean does
these things, like you know, he goes to Pakistani, goes
to Antarctica, he does all of these like crazy wild adventures.
Stop and this one has been the longest. So it
definitely got to the point where I called him and
I was like, I just miss you and I don't
want to like, I don't want to miss you, Like
(08:20):
it's just been you know, three months, and it's been
too long. And I was talking to my therapist and
she was the one who brought me to that realization.
And she was like, it sounds like you just miss him,
Like can't you just say that? And I was like, Oh,
I just don't really like talking about feelings or like
admitting that. So I finally admitted it to him and
I was like, no, I miss you. And it's yeah,
it's been a long three months. I'm super proud of him.
(08:41):
I'm super happy for him, but I'm very excited it's
almost over.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Yeah, we got We got in a little scuffle a
couple of weeks ago because there was a culmination of
that what she was just talking about, and I like
got into a pretty hairy situation on one of the mountains.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
Yeah, Dane like he's doing this and then he puts
himself in situations to make it more scary because he
gets bored, and that really freaks me out. I'm like,
you're already doing this, I already have anxiety. Now you're
doing things that are more dangerous, which really makes me angry.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Yeah, And I was like texting her about it, like
explaining the story, and I was like embellishing some certain
details just to make it seer interesting for you, and
I didn't realize that she was feeling this way, and
had I known that, I obviously would have maybe eased
up a little soft into the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Story a little bit.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
But yeah, we got not in like an argument, but
there was a contentious phone call.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I guess about it all.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
But I do feel like it's been three months. Yes,
but I have been splitting time pretty well. I've been
home a lot. I've been seeing you at least twice
a month, which I now that I say that doesn't
sound like very.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Much as you lead up to a wedding. It's fantastic time,
It's like really great.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Like the timing sucks, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know, it's Uh, I've known Dean for a long time.
I've loved Dean for a long time. Uh, it's it's
great as I hear this story, because what I go
to first is I remember min any conversations, and one
in particular with Dean. You know where he wasn't I
don't know. I think Dean and I shared a little
bit of it. I think it came out differently, But
I don't know if Dean ever believed he was really
(10:11):
going to be truly loved and missed and liked by
somebody that would want to spend their life with him.
And so this is the weirdest thing ever. Well, but
it's Dean. Well he's a beautiful man. Yes, But you know,
for Kaylin to miss you and communicate with that with
you and also be really flustered when you tell her
(10:32):
that you are running into bad situations, that's a that's
very like that for me, that's weird, but it's a
victory like you know, you found it, buddy. But to
give some like insight into what you are doing now,
I want to spend a little time on this. There
are I think fifty eight correct me if I'm wrong,
fourteen ers in the state of Colorado. I know obviously
(10:55):
I live here. I know a lot of people who
have done them. I know people who have done different
sets of peaks each year. I know people that try
to cross off all fifty eight peaks by the time
that they aren't able to hike anymore, and that always
is a massive accomplishment. I have friends that try to go,
you know, do one every weekend. I have never, honestly,
(11:19):
and ten years of living here, never heard of anybody say, hey,
I'm going to do all fifty eight peaks in a year.
I'm sure there are some, especially somebody who I played
golf with. After the first peak, which was three months ago,
he said, Hey, in three months, I'm going to do
all fifty eight because these are brutal I've done on myself.
They're exhausting. Dean, spend a little time here explain to
the listeners what you are doing, because to me it
(11:40):
makes very little sense.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Well, to your first point, I want to mention when
we were getting in that scuffle last week or two
weeks ago, I was getting upset that I was like, well,
I was getting upset about the whole situation for whatever reason.
I was like, this is my goal. I'm doing whatever
I can to achieve it. And then I took a
step back and I thought about how lucky I was
to have someone in my life that cared enough to.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Have feelings about me being away, and I.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Just took a step back, and I was like, I'm
really grateful to have Klin in my life to care
enough about me to want me to come home and
hang out with her. So I just wanted to mention
that that was a realization that I had not too
long ago. Either, but yeah, the fourteen ers growing up
in Colorado. I love the outdoors. I love the state
(12:27):
of Colorado so much. I think it's the best state
in the US for so many reasons. California is great too,
and I'm sure there's many many others, but just as
a Colorado kud, I've loved it so much, and I've
always closely associated myself with like the lifestyle of Colorado,
which is like more outdoors, you know, all that kind
of stuff. And then once we decided to get married
in Colorado in the mountains, nonetheless, I like, I just
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feel like I owed it to myself to be the
person that I always thought I was as far as
like the Colorado vibe, for lack of a better word, goes,
and not to necessarily earn the right to get married
in Colorado, but to feel more comfortable with that because
I so closely identify with the things that the state
(13:09):
represents so much. And yeah, so there's fifty eight of them.
They're all over fourteen thousand feet, which you know is
pretty high. I don't really get altitude sickness that a
lot of people do kind of suffer from that, but
I have never really dealt with it, and a big
reason too was I hate going to the gym and
I wanted to lose weight and look good at the wedding.
So I lost twenty pounds, which is really nice. Yeah,
(13:30):
really good. I haven't really been drinking much booze, which
is a big part of that as well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
I just wanted to be able to stand up there
on the altar in the mountains in Colorado with the
love of my life and feel more at peace or
at home or comfortable, whatever it is. And this was
like the way that I decided to make it happen
that way, I.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Guess most challengingly, it's a challenging Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
The thing is they are hard. Many of them are easy,
but a lot of them are also really hard.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But like it just you can just do it. You
all have to do is just do it, and then
you know. Then you did it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, you have to know. You don't know. No, you
don't have to just do it. You have to do
it and then go. I have fifty seven more to go.
I have fifty five more to go, because Ashley, here's
something for you, right. I usually do one or two
a year. I do one a tour or two a
year because they are an all day event. I mean
you leave at the Kraka non for me, most of mine, Dean,
(14:31):
you probably have been able to do them faster. They
can take a good five to seven hours is typically
like how long it takes of straight walking, and half
of that or over half of that because it's faster
going down. Is up fourteen thousand feet, That's insane.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's fourteen thousand feet, so okay, so it's three miles
about in the air.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, and that's just like above that's the elevation above
sea level. So typically you're gonna start most of around
like nine to ten thous feet, so you're gaining four
thousand feet maybe five thousand feet, depending on the mountain obviously,
but then that's over the course of ten miles.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And it's funny.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I just did the fifty sixth one two days ago,
and I finally feel like I'm in shape now, And
it's just it's kind of annoying that now at the
very end of it, I feel like I can hike fast,
hike stronger, hike longer, like those types of things. But
now it's over, so it's like, now what do I do?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Are you going to finish all fifty eight.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I'm gonna finish. Yeah, So I have two left, the
Maroon Bells.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I'm gonna do the traverse, and I'm doing it the
day before we leave for the wedding festivities with my brother,
who I climbed the first one with a couple of
years ago. So it'll be like a good full circle moment.
We're changing our last name to Bell the mountains. The
two mountains are called the Bells, so I thought it
would be a good capstone as well.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And it's an aspen.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
So yeah, so I have two more to do, going
to do them next week on Wednesday. But yeah, it's
interesting because it is a challenge and it's such a
great accomplishment.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm so so proud of it.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
But like I said, it's just like it's more of
like a psychological challenge than it is a physical challenge
at this point at least, where there's just so many
of them, and like you have to continue to motivate
yourself to do these things, and some of them aren't fun,
so you just have to like, you know, grate your
teeth and get through the boringness of it all. And
so that's why Kaylen, and I got an argument because
I needed to spice it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Spice it up in the relationship a little bit.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Spice up the hikes, which makes it more dangerous, which
then puts more stress on her.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay, So, Kaylan, you get a text from Dean and
then we'll get off of the mountain climbs. I just
think it's something not only to be celebrated forcus it
is a huge accomplishment, but also to be confused by,
which is also very fair and doing fifty eight fourteen years.
And when you're Kaylen, you get a text from Dean
that frightens you or makes you feel uneasy? What do
(16:53):
you understand of the situation and the story that happened
on the mountains with Dean?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
So this one specifically that he's referring to. He yeah,
I was embellishing, but I didn't know that he was embellishing.
But he was also so upset. He's like sliding down
the mountain. He's falling, he said, he's fallen so many times.
He could be encountering bears, and he's bush whacking right
by a river that no man's ever touched, is what
he said. Yea, all this stuff, but I can tell
(17:20):
he's so mad, and I'm fuming because I'm like, it
is nine pm, you're still hiking. You chose to leave
at noon when you should have left at six am.
You're putting yourself in this situation. Drops his phone, he
has to hike back up because he dropped his phone,
like all these things. But he's so mad. So I
was like, I can't let him know that I'm mad
right now because he's so frustrated. I can't imagine how
(17:41):
frustrated he is. So I let myself go to bed
and not really say anything. And then the next day
or two days later, after he hit that's what we
talked about.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah, that one was.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
It was fifteen miles, two peaks, and a lot of elevation.
I started at two pm, which is way too late.
I was a quarter mile up and I realized I've
forgot my head lamp, and I just like, whatever, I
don't need.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
I was so mad about that.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
My map took me down this crazy route which actually
ended up just being a river, and so I was
the only person that I probably had hike there all
all in the history of man. And it was dark
and I'm bushwhacking and I have my phone flashlight, and
like it could be bear country, who knows, you know,
like they'll stay away from the more trotten paths, but
(18:26):
since no one's really been over here, that might be
where they like to congregate. And so I was like
singing out loud to myself the whole time, and like
she said, I kept falling. And the thing with this
one was there was no redeeming qualities of the hike,
Like I can't look back and be like, oh, that sucked.
But there was this one moment where I climbed this
rock and it was really awesome. Like the whole thing
was just like long and steep and exhausting, and so
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there was there was nothing to be happy about it
except for it being done.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I guess that's why I was so worked up about it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, do you normally like go on trails or
is it just kind of going up the hill where
whatever what you find?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, most of them have trails.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
There's been a few where in order to make it
more interesting, I don't go on a trail, I guess,
but but yeah, yeah, yeah there's there's trails usually.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, No, this all ties into your wedding, because wasn't
the goal to do it all before the wedding day
and then once you were married, you were going to
quote calm down with the explorations.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, I don't know if i'ssarily calm down per se.
I still think that the bug is still in me.
I'll do obviously a lot more exploring with Klan, which
would be great. And that's the thing too, Like I
would have loved for Kaylin to have joined me for
some of these, but I understand if you're not locked
into the mindset of climbing a mountain, it's hard to
get motivated to do it, especially when it's hard and
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you're tired and get cold or whatever. But there's no
plans immediately after the wedding to go out and climb
Dnali or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Maybe next year.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
There's so much here to then transfer into the wedding.
First off, Kayl and I I spent many nights talking
about the two of you. I think whn Dean first
told me that, hey, he's going to do this because
he was going to calm down, and I was talking
to Jess and I was like, I don't feel like
I've had to calm down or stop most of my
(20:28):
life because I'm married like that that is something I
don't know who's telling people that, But there's a lot
of freedom in marriage, I've found. And as he's been
climbing these you have been planning a wedding that is
coming up very soon, and to kind of transition to
that has him being away made it easier for you
(20:49):
to plan this wedding because you know, he maybe doesn't
have as much of an opinion on things, or has
it been harder. How's the wedding process been.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Yeah, I think it's been a comedy of both. I
really really love planning, so I've I've been having a
blast of this, Like I feel like I should have
done this professionally because I love it so much. But
there are things where like I want his opinion and
maybe he doesn't have service where he's like not super
responsive because he's been climbing. There's a lot of decisions
(21:18):
I made on my own and he just has to
live with it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, And well that's the thing too, I want to
live with it. I want you to make.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
All these decisions because you have such great taste and
your opinion is more is worth so much more when
it comes to this space, I think, and yes, I
want to be equal partners when it comes to planning
all these things.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But like, if you want something a certain.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Way, I don't want it another way to the point
where I'm going to fight you on it because.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I want you to have everything your way, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Yeah, And the important things like we agreed on together,
like our first dance song, his aisle song I wanted
him to pick out and it's very him. I don't
think anyone's ever walked down the aisle to the song
that you sure?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
But yeah, I know that there was a men's aisle song.
Did you guys do that at your writings?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I was already I think I did, Yeah, because I
kind of walked down with my like groom's men before
everybody else. And I think there's a unique song playing.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Then Okay, that's pretty unique.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's pretty What was your song, Ben? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't remember. I knew you're asked. I was like,
but as far.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
As the wedding planning goes, like I try to be involved,
but we have two wedding planners who are fantastic and
they're they're absolutely crushing it for us, and it's it's
really the biggest obstacle that we've been faced with with
this whole thing is just the people that own the.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Venue have been a bit of a challenge to deal
with that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
They say something and then they go back on their word,
and then they change everything completely, and then we agree
to something, but then they think that we agree to
something else and it's and.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
We put our deposits down, so we're kind of stuck
into it. That's been the most stressful part of the
whole process is the venue and do with the people
behind it. And I'm excited to never have to deal.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
With it again.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah. Yeah, we're excited for the wedding because we don't
want to have to deal with them.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, speaking of the venue, I know that Jared asked
you this on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
We're so excited to check it out people, But Jared
was like, it seems so dean, but actually, Kaylen, you
were the one that was really wanting it to be here,
and that also I just want to like kind of
like tie it into just your overall essence. I was
at dinner with a few, like outside dinner with Jill Chen,
(23:37):
you know, from from Bachelor Vision yesterday and she was like,
I feel like Kaylen is such a different person, not
in like a good way. Then she was back on
her seasons, like she was the pageant girl in her
season right, and now she's this nature girl.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
So how like, how has.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Dean evolved you into this being now like kind of
your style as well?
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Yeah, I think you brought out a lot of parts
of me that were always there, but like I could
embrace more, Like I never I were a makeup like
I feel like three times a month now, I like
never wear versus before I would always wear makeup every
single day. Like was fully like that pageant girl and
not really comfortable in myself. I was like, you know,
had this facade on all the time. And I don't know,
(24:20):
I've just been able to embrace myself and enjoy the
outdoors like it's still you know, hiking is a challenge,
but I'm getting better, but I do enjoy like being
in nature a lot more. And just that whole aspect.
That's that he's introduced.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Me too well.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And as you said too, that's been a part of
your family for so long. Your miller size, Yeah, her
grandparents have a sprinter van. Her uncle has hiked a
bunch of fourteen ers as well.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
I just never thought it was like something ingrained in
me and something I could do. It was like me
limiting myself. And Dean is really good at pushing himself
and telling himself that he can do anything, and part
of our relationship has been like telling me, I can
also do anything that you can.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah, some times you struggle with it still, but you
can do more than I can. So yeah, I don't know,
but yes, I mean it's The wedding venue thing was
funny because I didn't even know that we were going
to get married in Colorado. There was one venue in
particular that or two venues in particular that I.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Was really gung ho about. One of them was expensive.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I thought we were gonna get a friend discount because
my friend owns it, but his sister didn't let us.
The other one was they gave me a scholarship to
go to college, and so I was excited to maybe
potentially get married on their property because they basically helped
me get a higher education, which I really appreciated. But
the venue just didn't work out for what we wanted.
And then we went up and saw this one. It
was the second one that we saw and we pulled
(25:38):
up and Kaln's like, this is it. I was like,
we haven't even we haven't even gone out of the
car yet. What are you talking about. She's like, I
don't care.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
This is it. I know this is exactly where we
want to get married.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
And it was covered in snow. We couldn't even see it.
But I really wanted it to be an experience, Like
I don't know, I've talked to so many people who
have gotten married and they can't really spend time with
everyone that they want to, and so I wanted the
weekend to be all about our friends and family getting
together and have that quality time with them. So the
unique venue kind of.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Allows for that.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Just like slow down, not be stressed, and enjoy everyone.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Yeah, and sorry, I just I feel like we're just
talking on over here.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I just want to say too, your weddings are amazing.
But what we really wanted to do, and what Kayln
I think really wanted to do too, was like make
it more. You know, like if you go to a
wedding and everyone's kind of like doing their own thing
until the ceremony happens, that's great. But what Kaylen wanted
to do was make it more of like a group
group dynamic, and so everyone's going to be like staying
(26:34):
on the property. We have like games and stuff planned
and hopefully it just makes it more of like.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
A unique experience. We're all about the unique experience.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, it's going to be. I mean, I know this
area and it's it's got to be one of the
most beautiful places in the US where you guys are
getting married. And I think for anybody that's coming from
la or maybe not, has never been in the Colorado Mountains,
I think they're going to be shocked.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
That would be me.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, I think you're going to be shocked at just
what the mountains do for you and to you and
what and and kind of what you see and experience.
And you know, I've been to Colorado weddings where there's
been a moose walk through the wedding, where there's been
a bear, you know, like coming through and everybody has
to come in from the reception because the bear is
down to eat the food. Like those are the things
(27:23):
that make it amazing and special. Well as you know,
as we kind of dive in and as you get
a week away, I would love to hear both of
your kind of emotions around the idea that you are
getting married next week or you know a little over
a week away, that this is coming up soon, that
(27:44):
you've kind of been prepping for it for a while.
And so I want to start with Kaylin, how are
you feeling, you know about being married.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
I'm excited. I mean, it's just so crazy because I
had a crush on Dean for so long and like.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
It it's really crazy.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
I remember seeing you on my TV and I was like,
that guy is so hot and handsome, and then I
met you and thought the same thing. And it's just
so wild that I'm marrying this guy that I watched
on TV and had the biggest crush on ever. And
you know, we've created this life together. We live in
a home. We do kind of feel married. But it's
nice to actually go through with the wedding and call
(28:23):
him my husband, which is crazy. This is our last
week of being fiance's before we're husband and wife.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But he.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I was like just going through my vows and like
trying to fine tune them and stuff, and this is
potentially I don't know in them. But I remember when
he dumped me on the beach and I was like
so heartbroken. And it wasn't necessarily like I had loved
him yet, but I knew that I would never meet
anyone like Dan ever again, Like he is the most
(28:52):
special person ever, and so I was like, it's all
downhill from here, like I'm screwed yea, And so it's
just crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I just love him so much.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Agree with that, Dean.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Oh, I love that so much.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
It's so relatable to be like, look, I well it
sucks because now I'm going to have to marry my
second place.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yes, I'm not going to be with him.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I really helped you out there, didn't I. Yeah, it's
weird to be such a chick.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's weird to.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Be marrying a fan. I guess I never expected that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You free.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I guess that's cool. Yeah, I know, you're right. I'm
excited to be married.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Obviously, I've been pretty marriage averse for a large portion
of my life, and then even the first probably half
of our relationship, I was pretty marriage averse. Not that
I was lifelong partnership averse, because I think once Kaitlyn
came into my life is pretty It didn't maybe happen
as fast as it did for me as it did
for you, but it was pretty quick for me to
know that I was wanting to spend the rest of
(29:55):
my life with.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You, and the wedding is just.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
An way to kind of like seal the deal on that,
which is really nice and I agree like going around
and being able to call you my wife instead of
having to say do I say fiance, do I say girlfriend?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Do I say wife? That'll be nice to not have
to worry about that anymore.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
But yeah, it's great kind of what you were alluding
to earlier, Ben like having someone in your life that
cares about you more than you care about yourself is
a really really interesting feeling. It's something I've never really
experienced in my life until now. And just to know
that for the next sixty or seventy or eighty years,
like we're always going to have each other's back, and
you have a bad day, you can come in and
(30:35):
complain to your partner about how bad of a day
you had, and.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You can kind of rely on that.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Like, it's pretty cool to be able to know that
we're going to get to just continue to build and
grow together for however.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Long we get to live.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I do feel like I'm going to be like one
hundred and eighty years old when I die. Caitlin might
make it two hundred, So it sucks.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
For me, like eighty years if you're in a widow
or but I'll take anything I can get.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Every day is a blessing and I'm super super happy
to be able to continue to build on that. And
it just feels like too, like our relationship is so young.
You know, you guys have both been in your relationships
for probably a little bit longer than us.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm sure you can attest too like.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
It feels like we just started dating like a week
ago in a lot of ways, but obviously we don't.
Like we know more about each other than anyone else
on this planet, and so it's just it's an exciting
time for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Ashlely, Can I ask one question real quick that was
on the rundown that I don't understand? Yeah, I really
have no clue where this comes from. I've never heard it.
I don't know what's going on here, but it was
written down on the prep and I had got to
ask it. It says you're considering becoming born again virgin
pre wedding? Is this still something you're doing?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
This is definitely something that they made mention of that
he shouldn't have made mention of.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Okay, Duane's just talking out of his butt again.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Sounds pretty standard for me. I don't even remember why
I brought that up.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
You were like, that would be so cool if we
didn't have sex until the wedding. Oh yeah, so we
would become born again virgins.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, well you can go the next week.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Wow. Yeah, okay, so we're nine days away. I'm assuming
this is no longer a part of the plan.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, start the hell.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I'm I'm so glad you threw that one in.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Ben, I'm done. That was all I got. I saw it.
I was like, I don't give what's going on here,
but I want to ask.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
All right, Yeah, I think my problem is I feel
like on these podcasts, especially when Jared is co hosting
and Kaylen sit right next to me, I just feel
I forget that people listen to this and I just
talk like I'm talking to my friends, and so it
just gets out of handsome time.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That that makes good content.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
All right, So, Kaylin, we've seen you try on so
many dresses on social media and like, oh my goodness,
you're gonna look good in everything.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Did you settle on just one or you're gonna have multiples?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I have a ceremony dress and a reception.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yes, okay, cool? And like, do you want to tell
a style?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Is it what we'd expect from a nature wedding or
is it different?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Different?
Speaker 8 (33:08):
It was surprisingly so easy for me because I did pageants,
so I've worn so many different styles of dresses since
I was fifteen, and there were two styles that I like,
I knew I wanted. I went in and I was like,
I want this style for the reception and I want
this style for the ceremony. So the second dress I
tried on was the dress I'm wearing for the ceremony
or yeah, ceremony, and then I think it was like
(33:31):
the fourth dress or my reception. So I knew immediately
super easy. I feel like they're not super natury.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Okay, get a train, Yes, you are going to have
a train.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Did you think no?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Well no, I didn't think you were going to And
that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Are you gonna have a veil?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, oh that's awesome.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Any other questions, Uh, garter.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yes, okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Something blue, something borrowed, and something new.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, my grandma just said she has her handkerchief. I
think she's like eighty five. Her handkerchief from when she
was eighteen years old, and it's blue and it's old.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So and her grandparents are letting me wear their pocket
walk I know.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
I was like, you kind of have the old and
borrowed covered because it's my grandma's dad's pocket watch. It's
this vintage cool pocket watch. So he's gonna be wearing that.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
And I also have a ceremony interception outfit. I'm changing
between the two.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yes, here, you are so Dean, like, there's a lot
of talk around your outfit because you wanted to wear
some silly stuff like what is that called? Like those
things with strings that cowboys wear around their neck.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Dean and I wore these the VMA's together. Yeah, and
with a T shirt. Oh no, we looked really good
at that.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I remember that VMA Awards. That was pretty funny. Yeah.
I my style is bad.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
It gets worse every year. I feel like I used
to be semi stylish. I've not really so much anymore.
But yeah, I've got a bunch of bolow ties that
I'm gonna decide on the day of, and I've got
a long tail tuxedo with shock. Caitlyn wasn't really super
keen on it first, but I think she's maybe come
around on it. But that was the reason I got
I got a second talx just in case the long
(35:07):
tail ends up feeling silly the day of, so then
I'll just have a backup. But I don't think it will,
and so that what I'll do is I'll just change
between them between the ceremony and the reception. But yeah,
my style is it's not about me obviously that day
at all, but it is, well, it's about you.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
All eyes are going to be on you. That's perfectly fine.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
It's about us.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's about us.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
I'm not marrying myself.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Sure you're not, but I'm just saying, like, all of
the attendees are going to be looking.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
At you, not looking at me.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
They'll be looking at you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
They're not not even going to realize that I changed
TUXI does.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
But you are going to wear the bow? Wellow, how
do you say.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Itlolo and Caitlyn. You didn't want him to, but now
you're cool.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I like it.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
With his second outfit. But the first outfit it should
be more formal with a bow tie or something.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You look great in a bow tie. I know John
Johnson comes out, he.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
Thinks it's so basic. But I saw Sophia Bush. Her
wedding was so beautiful. It was bed What do you mean.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
They're being divorced?
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Oh? Sei is okay?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
He was just really cool bow tie.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
It was like, I think it's called a western bow tie.
It's like a thinner one and it's.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Actually like a bow. Oh yeah, that.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Sounds ugly, but it looks cool and it droops down.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, I'll get I mean, I'm gonna buy a bow tie.
I'm going to have options, that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
But my my instinct and my intuition is telling me
to wear the bolo tie, to wear the long tail.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
I like the long tail with the bow tie, and
then bulletie for the second.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
We'll see. That's the thing. I can cycle through the options.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Okay, so many things to decide in just nine days.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna have been in the in the room
helping me get dressed, and he can tell me what
he thinks looks best and what doesn't look good.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So I mean, I did you well. I remember when
Diana and I chose he was together. Yeah, he was
my date to an awards show, and I didn't I
didn't like know what to wear to this thing. I
had no idea, So I texted Diana. I was like,
what do you wear to a red carpet show when
everybody's taking pictures and everybody's going to be like better
(37:01):
looking and more suave than you and I? And we're like,
let's go T shirts, jackets, bulow ties and just see
where it takes us. And we did, and we might
have got best dressed. We definitely pulled it off.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
And the fact that we both like matched but didn't
match was was a big selling point as well. I
remember one thing that sticks out to me about that
night was I had just gotten a new haircut and
I think, like, maybe I did it myself or my
friend did it, and it just looks so bad.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
It was the American Music Awards. I didn't think, like
the v.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
We weren't cool enough to get invited to the VMA's
that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
And now I see this and this is what.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
They're saying, Oh it looks good.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Oh I'm gonna send this to you guys. Did you
google it too?
Speaker 8 (37:46):
This does look good, way better than I don't know
why I was picturing you guys wear your like cow
shirt and wolf shirt with a bolo tie.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Well, I tell you what, you two are a beautiful couple.
We're very excited to be there to celebrate with the
two of you. In fact, final questions, you're going on
a honeymoon. I'm assuming. I don't know anything about this.
I haven't heard about it. Are you leaving right away?
Where are you going?
Speaker 8 (38:13):
No, we are going to South Africa in December, and
Dean on our podcast just told me for the first time,
we're doing a mini moon and we're going to Madeira.
I'm really excited.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
About sweet plan.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Mini moon.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, mini moon, well, just because it's how the Africa
wouldn't happen till December.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
That's so far away.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Are we still going to Hawaii together?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (38:31):
In October. I'm pumped.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
In October then, yeah, we're going to Hawaii together.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
So I actually we were falling asleep last night and
I was like, do you think Ben's going to bring
his golf clubs to Hawaii?
Speaker 3 (38:41):
And I don't know, you should ask it. So, Ben,
are you going to bring our golf clubs to Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I am buddy.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Hey, we love you so much.
One more questions.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
I have to interrupt you because I see another weird
one on the rundown.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That must be.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Dean after the wedding due plan on reversing you.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Oh man, that's just gonna be half that. We have
to talk about that. I guess at some point.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
The iHeart producers know way too much about you.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Wait, why I didn't know. I didn't know you had
a vasectomy.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
I don't, but I might get one after the wedding,
just so I could reverse it, Dean, just but just
so I could reverse it, get it done.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
So hot and.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
Cold, He's like, I want kids.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Maybe I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh my gosh, we want to.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Get one so you can say he reversed it. Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, So that's just stupid because I have buddies that
are at their age where they're getting them. Dean, don't
do that to yourself. There's so much to that, Like it.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Hurts, no guarantee the bes.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
It's so funny how hot and cold we've been as
a couple too, like she really wanted kids. When we
first started, I didn't, and now I really want kids
and she doesn't, and so it's just it's gonna be
I do.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm just we're not.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Yeah, we're not ready yet, but both my brothers are
so many years and seeing them be parents has like
lit this fire within me. And we like thought maybe
we were pregnant like a month ago, but then we
turned out not to be, and I was like really
sad about it. You were, yeah, of course as that,
and Kaitlyn was like screaming it from the rooftop, was
(40:09):
like and over, I'm like sulking in the corner over here.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's weird that you thought she was pregnant when you
guys haven't had heard immaculate conception.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Right, guys.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Okay, I don't want to be the mom that now
like tells all my other friends that they need to
have kids, because I've already do this with Ben often.
But listen, you guys are definitely meant to be mom
and dad someone.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
But like he's just playing, let's just do it, because
like Dean and I are about the same age, Kaylin
and Jess about the same age. Let's just plan this out.
At the same time.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
What's your timeline, Ben, I don't know, soon probably yeah,
well okay, well let's just keep us posted on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Everything sorted out in Hawaii? Yeah, there we go, everyono
can see. Yeah, wouldn that'd be great to Hawaii babies.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Very confusing.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Hey, we're very Yeah, we're very excited for the two
of you. This has been a long time coming. We
cannot wait to celebrate with you. I know our listeners
are excited to see the pictures. Uh, Dean, I hope
you're posting all the wedding pictures and not just mountain pictures.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
It'd be nice to finally get a new post up,
but that's not on top of a mountain.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Ye. So but until well, lessen two weeks from now.
We'll see you soon. Thanks, thanks for having us, guys.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
We love you, baby, you guys very excited.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
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