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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of dirty Rush.
We already went through the rush process with you guys,
but now we're going to get into what life is
like after the rush process. We're going to dive into
what it's like to be a pledge in a sorority.
And here we have Ava with us. She is going
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to tell us her pledge story.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I went to a small school in Connecticut, a
small private school, and our rush was very similar to
everything you guys spoke about before. You know, you saw
the different sororities. The rush for us was the easy part.
We basically like went into different rooms, you met the girls,
you know, you got to know them, you had conversations,
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and then you got a bid. So the sorority that
I got a bid for was a was a Jewish sorority,
And the easy part was the rushing, and once you
got a bid, it was crazy. So some of the things,
like instantly there were I think there were like eight
or nine of us.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh, so, very your pledge class was very.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Small, really really small.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you mind, like you don't have to, of course,
but do you mind disclosing maybe what sorority you were
in or yeah, sure, I was in eight by oh okay,
I mean very very well known sorority.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Though very well known sorority, a really great sorority, you know.
But I think our school did things a little bit differently,
maybe because it was smaller. This was also back in
two thous like early two.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Thousands, okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, So we kind of pledge like a fraternity. We
were hazed from day one. So the second you got
your bid and you accepted, you had to get apack
and in your backpack you had to carry a brick
the entire time, which was sounds like, oh, that's kind
of strange, but that was nothing. You had to carry
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a brick. You had to carry like a ziplock with
anything that one of the sisters could want you had
to have in that ziplock at all times, so that
could be like cigarettes, hair fings, chapstick whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You were like their assistant.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We we were definitely like their assistant.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I want to say you were like there, but I
don't know if that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We were fully there, Like we had to at the
drop of a hat if we got a phone call
or a text from them, we had to leave whatever
we were doing to either. There were so many things like.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
If they yeah, that is kind of crazy because that
does give fraternity it's their eternity. Yeah, because even my
freshman year of college, it was me and my roommate
and her boyfriend at the time was rushing and he
would receive phone calls at like four am, one am
because he would sleep over in the dorms all the time.
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And that gives very frat like rather than sorority life
because that didn't happen to me and we rushed at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And like, once you hear everything that I'm going to say,
the fraternities had its ten times worse. So like we
had it bad, but the fraternities had it way worse.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, so okay. So some of the things we had
to do for them at the drop of a hat
was park their cars on campus, pick them up from
the bars at any time of the night, clean their rooms.
We had to so our campus like the some of
the dorms were like apartments, so they would say I
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want cheetos right now, and you would have to steal
from other people's dorm rooms. Like you'd have to go
in and out, running in and out of people's dormoms
and steal whatever food they wanted. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Crazy and like oh my god. So it's not like
you enter the store.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That your room could have been the store. It was
like I want chocolate chip cookies, go find them, like
I want them, you have to be back here in
three minutes. So yeah, I mean that was you know,
we had to but like I said, we had to
drive around, clean their apartments, do their homework and papers. Wow,
And again that was the easy stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
How long was your pledging process?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It was around six weeks, so it was a while.
And during that time you had to be there. You
could not be anywhere else. So like as it got
worse as it went on. We went into Hell Week,
which was like the last week of pledging. Even before
at Hell Week, actually, one of the things that we
had to do was like they would say sizzle like bacons.
You would have to drop to the floor and sizzle,
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and then they'd say flip over and you'd have to
Like it's just like.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Embarrassing, you know, and yeah, I mean, what are you
like so on the ground?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yes, And like they would have fraternities come in and
they would tell you to sizzle like bacon.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And it was just like demeaning, you know, yeah, of course,
I mean especially when the Frock guys come in. It's
like probably guys that you were like, you know, interested
in or thought we're cute, and then they're watching you
like squeal on the ground.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's embarrassing, and like they would you had to they
would like test you. So you had to know like
the Greek alphabet. You had to know the Greek alphabet,
and they would light a match and pull it upside
down and if you would have to say the Greek
alphabet correctly before it burned them, and then if it
burned them, then like all hell broke loose. You were
yelled at. There were punishments, like physical punishments like push ups,
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jumping jacks. You would have to sit against the wall
like real, were.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
You in boot camp?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Like what I know exactly, it was like we were
in boot camp. So then as we so are, we
didn't have houses. We had basements. So the baitin of
the dorms had our room, any thigh rooms, that's like
our house.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Interesting, so like it so that the school could so
like Panhell could like monitor it in a way.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Not at all because there was no monitoring, okay, just
because we were such a small school and there were
no houses, so they just gave each of us a room.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That's interesting because I know a lot of like other
like because I don't I don't know what's if you
don't mind, I mean, I if you don't mind sharing,
it totally up to you. But I know the other
smaller schools in Connecticut, like Fairfield or Sacred Heart. Actually
I don't even think Fairfield had Greek life, if I'm
not wrong, But Sacred Heart they had like rocks, rocks
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like represented their sorority, but I don't think they had
anywhere to go.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, we had like a dingy, old dusty basement room.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's like old car.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You had like chapter and stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Exactly, we had Chapter in there. But so what happened
was during hell week, they took away all of our
keys to dorm rooms. We weren't allowed to shower or
go to our dorm rooms, and so we would have
to sleep in the chapter room in the base a
week for a week. But they told us you're not
allowed to sleep and they're like, we have cameras, you
can't go in the back room. So for a week.
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We and you weren't allowed to sit on the couches
when you were pledging, so we would have to lay
on the floor and like use our backpacks as pillows.
And so that was the one time in my life
where we survived on adderall. We all took adderall.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I could only imagine.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So remember, if you don't have a dorm room, you
don't have a shower, so you were not allowed to shower.
And what they would do is they would come in
and they would put like all different condiments in our hair,
like catch up mayow mustard, like disgusting smelly stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well and I've heard about this within like fraternities, but
I've never heard this with sororities before ever.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, so we would have to walk around, like I
washed my hair in a public bathroom, like in a
same one time, just to like try the smell, like
I can still smell it. Imagine like mayo mustard ca
up in your hair.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, that's mortifying. And then going to class. I wouldn't
even show up.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
A class like that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, and not sleeping that on top of not sleeping, of.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Course, how are you even focusing everyone's looking at you
throughout campus? Probably thinking you smell. But like because your
campus was a smaller school, did they knew that, Like
they knew that this was happening to you.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I knew, like this is what happens when you go
through the process, and like it was like a medal
of honor.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, yeah, I would have I would have given
you a medal of honor. This is like reminding me
of Special Forces.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Which I love. By the way, I'm watching it, Oh
so thank you. But yeah, I mean it there were
many times where like we the six of us, would
just say, like that's it, We're done.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What were you allowed to draw?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean yeah, if you'd remember it was such a
small school, you dropped out, that was it for you,
Like there was no coming back.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, everyone would have known.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, and like those five girls like they were my
best friends, Like those were my people.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean after going through that, you're like trauma bonded.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, for sure, Like I mean the things like if
we wanted to drink water, we have to like miaw
and drink from like a dirty water bowl on the ground,
like really disgusting thing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's crazy. Yeah, but did things turn around after this?
Like so after they basically just treated you, like horribly
and completely basically at the end of the day, they
were basically trying to make you feel like a shell
of a person, like make you feel like nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But you had to feel like you went through it
and you deserved after everything, like you deserve to be
there because they all went through it, so they so
if you didn't go through it, you didn't deserve to
be with these people.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, I mean, the worst I've ever heard was sitting
on a washer or dryer naked. But who knows if
that's even true. I mean maybe because the things that
you're telling me right now, I actually can't even fathom
that this happened to you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
They took one of my clutchesters one night and we
had to go on a scavenger hunt to find her,
and she was wasted, crying, like they got her beyond wasted.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's so scary because that happened at the school that
I went to, and the pledge ended up dead. So
you know, it's like that stuff gets very crazy because
that's when you know sororities and fraternities I think, get
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a little out of hand and like never know when
enough is enough. And then at the end and then
ultimately take it too far. Maybe they don't mean to,
but like then it's like they look at it as
a game and it's pure entertainment until it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, that's what it was. For the sisters. It was
like funny for them to watch us go through it,
even though they had gone through it before and felt
the same way as us.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, well, it was almost like he he he, this
is my enjoyment because I went through this, and now
you're going to suffer like I did.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
After my pledge class. It wasn't the same, like they
No one was hates that hard anymore. Like our year
was like kind of the last year that it happened.
It just got like less and less because they did,
you know, people started catching on and they were getting
in trouble for it, so then the schools found out.
Yeah yeah, but like it was, it was rough. You know,
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these are things that I really had to like spend
some time and think about because once you go through it,
you like wipe it from your brain.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And also like once we were in I wanted nothing
to do with these girls.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, yeah, it's like, screw you.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I ended up not really taking part in anything. Oh, God,
It's just like, what's wrong with these people that they
could treat us like that and then they think we're
their friends, you know, Like it was just I only
I right now, I only one of my pleasuresters is
still one of my very close friends. But otherwise I
don't really speak to anybody from my sorority.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So you went through the whole process and then ended
up really not even being an active member in your
sorority exactly. I mean I understand it though. You were
probably just so turned off by like the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
They were mean girls, Like they were just mean girls.
You know, we were their entertainment, and then it's like,
you know, you get like mind fucked, and then you're
expected to just go to parties with them, and that's
not how I operate. So I was just kind of like,
these are not my people.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh yeah, I mean I totally get that. And then
for the following year, you were so were you affiliated
with your sorority? All four years, I.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Was affiliated, but I didn't really go to anything. But
like I said, it was a small school, so you
kind of have a choice.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah. So then when it came to rush the next year,
did you you obviously had to participate in the Russian
pledging process because you were in the sorority.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well, at some point I did end up being a
sistant pledge mom, okay, but doing it very different.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So you kind of were like, I am turning this
leaf and I am not doing what they did to
me to these new.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Girls exactly how effort. They did kick me out halfway
because I didn't go to one of their events. So
I started out as the assistant pledge moment, and then
they took it away from me, got it, Yeah, which
was fine.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean, at least you were trying to make
a difference.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I just don't, like, I have a daughter, and I
just can't imagine knowing that she was going through something
like this. No one like you lose all self respect
and for what really, for what though?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know, I mean at the end of the day,
and even when I was at school, yes, sorority life
was so fun and you get to meet so many people.
But once you do that, I don't know, it comes
to a point where you don't know if this is
even worth it anymore, because you have your people.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Already, right, I had my people, my pledge shisters, the
six of us were super close and that was really
all I needed after that.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, Eva, I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's
like the most horrible pledge story I've ever heard from
a sorority in my life.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Listen to your stories on here and I'm like, wow,
that's such a nice experience.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Like you're like, that's light work. This is nothing compared
to what I went through.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I had a cousin who was in a sorority at
USC and it was like we got letters from our
sisters and gifts from our bigs and this and.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Oh yeah, I mean, and we didn't experience any of
that at Rutgers. I mean, the most haze worthy thing
we experienced was Big Little Night when like our bigs
were supposed to get us like really drunk, but it
wasn't in a malicious way. It was like, Okay, if
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you got too drunk, your big would take care of you.
Like it wasn't to make you feel less than yourself
or it was purely to have a fun night. So
that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, I mean the night that we got in it
was like do I go back and sleep and wash
my hair, or like do I go out with everyone
and party, and like you were exhausted. You know you
were exhausted. You were gross your hair, I mean your
hair takes Imagine a week of like Mayo mustard stuff
in your hair. It's like so much time to recover
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from that.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh yeah, I mean you probably also just felt so
mentally drained. It was a week of not sleeping, constantly
taking adderall to keep your to keep you awake, and
just constant torture. You are so mentally exhausted by the
time that was over. I would have wanted to shower
and lay in my bed and not move for a week.
So I give you a lot of credit.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That's use dishwashers so on your hair, like that's what
they said. They're like, go get like dawn soap, And that's.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
How because it would have been that hard to get
out without like normal yeah, just.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Like growths and not something I would ever sign up
for again, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh my god. Well, Ava, thank you so much for
telling your story and coming on too Dirty Rush. I
am happy that you found your happiness after pledging and
that that was not going to define you. So kudos
to you.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Thanks for having me, and I'm happy listening to everyone's
fun stories on here. So you guys are doing a
great job.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think you're taking it home. I don't know.
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Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hi Paige, and welcome to Dirty Rush. I am so
excited to hear your pledge story.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm excited to tell you about them white fun. Oh
them's there's a multitude. Yeah. Okay, I was a new
member at and this was about a year ago. Because
we're doing big little stuff right now, and I'm getting
super reminiscent about all of it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh wow, Okay, so you're a sophomore.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, I'm a sophomore. Awesome and my big So if
you don't know a lot about big little stuff, it's
very like, oh, you're like getting introduced to the sorority.
And in my case, it was like my third week
of college, like I just had gotten there.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh I know. And then you're going on like speed
dating with all these girls and having this crazy experience
and trying to act like you're going to find your
best friend in a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Exactly the best idealized version of yourself. But anyways, a
lot of the bigs, it's this whole kind of mantra
of like showering their littles with like gifts and like lots.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Of love and like older peril and anything like that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
My big had a little bit of a spin on
her how she was embracing me into her community, and
it came in the form of like a bunch of
masks the nights leading up to like our big little reveal.
I have a list of them so that I didn't
forget any She was friends with a lot of the
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in various like rats and sororities, which once again, I'm
like freshly eighteen at a brand new school of like
forty thousand people, and I was like, this is a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, of course, and especially if she knew everyone, she
could easily like I know, in that moment, you were
probably like, Okay, this girl can ruin my life if
I don't do what she wants me to do, or
ruin my social life. Like I totally get it, but
I went.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
My first one was reading a limerick to the Fiji
president reading a what a limerick with a type of
poem at all?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I was like, what is that?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It was hilarious. It was like nine pm. She's like,
you have fifteen minutes to write this and perform this
for him outside of his house. I didn't know who
he was. I didn't know where this rat was or
like how I was getting in contact with him, But
thanks to Instagram dms made it all work. And then
along those lines, there's also performing a happy Birthday ballad
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to the pie Fi president, which I had gotten dropped
from pi Fi the first day rush. So that was
a little nice to the heart.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Oh my god. But wait, so she made you like
go around to other sororities too and do this?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes, yeah, this was a whole Greek event. It was.
It was great, though.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I feel like that's a little strange though, because why
would she want to like advertise that she's torturing her
little to other sororities. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Fair? That's a fair I guess. I never really looked
at it like that they were all in this network
of like they were all probably doing similar things to.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Their little like they were all doing it so all
like the presidents or the people who were like higher
up in the sorority were doing it, Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And I think it's just like the same way they
were kind of they had big little when they were
a little as well.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So did the rest of your pledge class get treated
like this? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
This is just like.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's what I'm saying, Like this it's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah it was. Oh, I guess this is how
like frat hazing kind of perpetuates too. It's like a
it's a weird form of endearment a little bit. And
also I had a lot of fun doing the tasks.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Not to Okay, I mean listen, if you enjoyed it
and you're not saying that this is something that like
affected you or like made you feel upset, then go
for it. Okay, all right, what were some of the
other ones? I'm interested because you're I think I feel
like you're looking at this as a form of entertainment.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It it was for me, so I feel like.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You're a confident person.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I just was kind of like, oh, I live on
a floating rock, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm not that deep good mentality.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I'm like pretty close with the girl that I performed
to the birthday ballad for now it's like a it's
a running like. Also, it wasn't her birthday, it was
like just the random day of the week. The other
ones these were kind of low stakes. There was a
lot of texting in our flare, which is like like
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a sorority like messenger.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, like a group may almost.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah exactly, asking for but itch ointment and just following
up with like something going on, like don't ask. Yeah.
There was some snapchats like swipe up for a tvh
like like just embarrassing stuff to put on like your sociiyeah.
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One of one of the highlights was I petitioned for
animal rights in front of this like fountain on campus.
But yeah, that was actually pretty fun because I dressed
as a I dressed in a gorilla suits and no
one would recognize me. And also, okay, yeah, channel lot
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of free time, let me tell you to come up
with these things.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, yeah, she was definitely brainstorming a lot. But
I mean, Padre, I give you a lot of credit.
I mean, your confidence is through the roof because anyone else,
I mean, I don't know, I feel like any other
girl would not be okay with this. It would be
absolutely mortified to do any of these things. So I
mean kudos to you because it takes I think a
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girl with high confidence and a girl with a high
I don't give a attitude or what people say or
think about me to do any of these things.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I was. I don't know if I if I
should say, like what school I'm at, but I'm at Berkeley.
There's a lot of there's weirder shit going on out there,
petitions or rights, like I would say, like maybe like
six people like did a double take, like not it
was kind of like a normal day. It was a
normal day in Berkeley.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They're like, Okay, there's somebody else chanting about something that
they believe in today. Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Really helped with the embarrassment factor, and like there it
could be it would be a lot weirder somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Wrote more book reports for these pledge tasks or like
pledged tasks. Then I have my entire career pat school
so far about children's books that she left me in
my like room decor situation. And then I also wrote
a book report about it was like a self help
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book about klepto being a kleptomaniac. Kleptomaniac, that's a whole
nother can of worms. My roommates and I were like
running around frats stealing things, which was probably not great either.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh my god, and this is all this is all
set up from your sorority.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No that the stealing was on her own CORNERO.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Oh, like you just wrote a book report about being
a kleptomaniac.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
A self help book. She knew. I was like, I
didn't know she was, and she was like, yeah, my
little is like cle I'm gonna give her this book.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oh no, I really hope the ceiling phase is over. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Cool incident and then we retired.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
We were like, yeah, you got like you got like
a nice high from it. It made you like it
was exciting.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, there was like dead Okay, I don't know because
my big was saying, you might want to talk about
this separately. But there was like a whole composite like
hostage situation, Like we had this composite from a frat,
like held hostage from the frat for months, and our
next door neighbor was a pledge in the frat and
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like six months after we stole it. He broke into
our room to take it back, and there's there was like.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
It was one night, and then the composite went back
to the frat, and then we went back into the
frat and stole it, and they like chased us down
the street and then so we sent one of our
other neighbors in to like distract them, and then skill
the fence and got the composite back.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It was Yeah, God, the.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Kleptomaniac book was probably important for us to read.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, okay, I could see that. Well. I mean, aside
from all of that, I'm happy, I'm happy you have
self reflected on being a kleptomaniac. I'm also happy that
your big gave you what was it, a self.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It was a self help book.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, wait, why did you need self help for being
a kleptomaniac? Yeah, got it. Okay, So the cleptomaniac thing
that is solved. But other than that, like the fact
that you embraced doing all of these tasks for yourself
is saying a wild, wild amount about your character. You're
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very confident, You're clearly very funny and just kind of
live in the moment. So I mean embrace it, because
I don't like a lot of girls in your situation
would have taken it as well as you did.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So are you saying you wouldn't petition for animal rides?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Maybe not? No, wait that's bad because I love animals.
But I just I would definitely be embarrassed on campus
while doing it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Fair fair, fair, fair.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It was yeah, definitely a learning experience, but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So when your big was actually revealed to oh wait,
you didn't know who your big was the entire time
that she was making you do this, Oh my god.
So the but then, so this was during like your
speed dating process, because then how did she like lock
you in? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You speed date and then you like the little will
rank who they want, and the big will also rank
who they want. And then if it's like it's like
some weird system, if it's like a perfect one to
one match, you end up with like.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, no, of course I know that whole system. But
then how did she get you to do these things
before knowing who she was?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
She knew that I was her little, I wasn't sure
who was my big, Like I had a feeling it
was this person. And after the task started growing, and
I knew it was her because like, this is so
on brand for her.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So you didn't have big Little reveal.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
This was just the lead up to big little reveal.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Wait, I really am not understanding how she pulled this off. Then,
so was everybody else's potential big doing this to their
potential little?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, she was texting through an anonymous.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Phone number saying like I'm gonna be your big do
this stuff. Yeah, oh my god, Okay, that's funny. And
so then how did you feel when your big was
revealed to you?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
A sense of like, oh yeah, it was right?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Was it like a sense of relief or like I'm
happy about this?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like I was never mad about it in the first place.
I thought it was hilarious, but it was like, yeah,
this makes so much sense. Like I had a feeling
it was who my big was, and then when it
was revealed, I'm like, yeah, like of course it was you,
Like only you would do this like clown stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Fun Our reveal was at the end, but we like
this is why I was like confused because we speed
dated like basically all the way up until like the reveal,
and then like before the reveal, you like kind of
knew who your big was because if you were like
vibing with her, like you know, and kind of like
solidifying it between like the two of you, even though
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you weren't supposed to do that, but like you kind
of were like, Okay, you're my big, Okay you're my little.
But it wasn't ever like a secret or like nobody
could have like played a game on you before the reveal.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, it's like you have the speed dating closes like
probably a week before big Little, and then you have
that week to like do baskets and do decorading and
leave flowers.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah yeah, no, of course I was, but that same
thing with us, But if you vibed with like your
potential big, like you kind of like had a feeling like, Okay,
this girl's gonna be my big or this girl is
gonna be my little and hope that like you obviously
both choose each other as you're one, two and three
option obviously, but how your big was able to prank
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you and like tell you to do all these things
before the reveal of the week leading up to it,
like we never had that. Yeah, and I don't even know,
like I feel like if that was happening to me.
I was like, I'm being pranked. Like I'm gonna go
ask someone in my sorority if this is fucking normal,
because it doesn't seem normal.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There's a lot of like secret societies and like secret
like club stuff too throughout Berkeley Greek life because it
is such like an old school and it's very it
was very traditional in the beginning, so it was kind
of a sense of like not necessarily that everyone was
doing the same stuff that I was doing, but like, oh,
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this is definitely a sorority thing, and it's definitely real.
It's not like some random person texting me. But yeah,
I also just knew that you would do something like that.
She's a clown.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Well that's hilarious. But Page, thank you so much for
coming on to Dirty Rush and explaining your story. You're
definitely a trooper. Let me tell you that. Hi Kensi,
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and welcome to Dirty Rush. I can't wait to hear
your blood story.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Thank you so much to be here.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Okay, So I feel like this one's pretty generic, pretty basic,
but I go to a school in the South and
SEC school, so Rush there is obviously way more intense
than other regular you know, college and basically everyone rushes
when they're eighteen, super new, super fresh. And I get
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into a sorority that I heard that was a little
bit on the crazier side, which I didn't mind.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
At all, like kind of the party sorority.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Yeah, and so I was excited because you know, I
liked doing that in high school, and I was excited
to continue it in college, but with a little bit
more older.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
And more mature things going on around me.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
And you know, the night of mid day, like the
Earth the night of midnight, and basically they have us
together and then we get separated into pairs. And so
I was with this random girl I've never even met before,
and we get assigned to this one girl in the
PC above us.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
And basically their job is.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
For us to get as drunk as they can get
us and then to let us go into the frats.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
And so I was honestly down for and it sounded fun.
We all met up. We met up in this basement
that I had no idea existed on campus.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
And there's probably about like one hundred and hundred fifty
girls in there, all chanting and yelling songs and drinking
a lot in a lot of beatboxes, because that's what
was sponsoring us secretly. But yeah, that was my first
time having a beatbox at eighteen. I never really drank that.
I don't think any of the other girls did either.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
I don't even remember that night to this day. I
really try to picture and think back.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
I'm a senior now and that was about three years ago,
but that was probably one of the first times I
blacked out. And I don't know how I got home,
but I know that they did have to take a
picture of us when we were in our bed.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Okay, so at least they kind of monitored you. They
kind of wanted to like see where you were and
not just really let you out and not put any
like not keep any tabs on you.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Yeah, not keep too many tabs on this.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
They basically just released us out into the wild for
us to go introduce ourselves to the frat boys. Because
every single frat through that night, so there's probably about
twelve ten frats here, so we had to go to
all of them.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
So it was crazy. That was the tap, That was
the whole pot, that was the whole point of it.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yes, each one, Yes, I'm sure half of your half
your punchcast didn't even make it to half of them.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Yeah, I only went to three and then I ended
up in bed.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
It was it was a surreal experience and it's funny
to think about to try to picture what happened, but
I really can't.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So I feel like that kind of reminds me of
my big, little, big little night. Like your bigs are
getting you super drunk as the little and then you
go to the frats, but your big is looking out
for you the whole time, like making sure that you're
getting into bed safely, that nothing happens to you. But
you said you didn't really remember the night, but there
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were You said you went to three frats, So was
there somebody at least monitoring you to make sure that
you were okay and like kind of tell you what happened.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
So when I initially got in, I had friends that
were going to ut prior, so I let them know
where I was going to be that night. So I
wasn't with the people that I had met in my sorority.
I was with my hometown friends at these frats, and
they were basically kind of the ones monitoring me.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And then so your hometown friends were looking out for you. Yeah, yeah,
that makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Yeah, but I somehow got in contact with the person
I was assigned to because that was their job, and
like if they couldn't get you know, the new PC
to their designated you know, places that they lived at,
they would get in trouble. But yeah, we somehow found
the girl that was supposed to be watching me and
it ended up being fine.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Wow, well I'm out of here, okay. Honestly, blessed to
your hometown friends. Hometown friends are always the real ones
that like make sure that you're really okay. I blessed
to them, and I'm happy that you got home safe. Yes,
but I feel like that's like weird that they would
have Like, but they probably did that, honestly, so that
you guys could have embarrassed yourselves in front of the frats,
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like being so drunk like that for the first time.
But I'm surprised there wasn't a little more monitoring, just
like because if like if they if something God forbid
actually happened to one no, no, yeah, it would have
been screwed.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Yeah, there definitely needs to be a better system set
up with it.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
But I mean, you know, it worked, a had a
good time, and then at.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
The end of the day, no one got in trouble,
so that's what mattered.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, no, for real and blessed to your hometown friends.
But Kenzie, thanks so much for telling us your story.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
Of course, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Okay, hey, Michelle and Grease, we have a big little
duo here with us on Dirty Rush and they are
going to be telling us their pledge story. Yeah, Hi,
thanks for having Usoe Michelle or who's the big, who's
the little?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Michelle is the big?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yes, yeah, so yeah, she picked me up my freshman
year and we've been best friends ever since.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 9 (37:27):
It was a quick transition when you know, you know
sometimes yes, you know you know which actually backsire. Michelle
hired on us and that's part of the story.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
M hm.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
And so yeah, when you get your bid right, and
I remember talking to Michelle all during rush and stuff,
and then on mid day your match with like a
bid day buddy, and so they kind of take you
to the whole like post mid day event and like
whatever the sorority had planned. And so we actually went
rollerblading was our bid day event, which was just like
really bonding to say the least, right, and then yeah,
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we ended up going to like all the bid day
parties that weekend and like going to everything together. And
then so we kind of knew probably from like that
weekend that we were going to be big and little
and then shelf, you want to take it over.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And so this is kind of like your speed dating
getting to know each other.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Right.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
So, Okay, the way our sorority does it, which is
probably similar across the board at our school, is you
get a bid day buddy for the actual bid day,
but then once that weekend passes, you're paired with a
new member as an older member.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh yes, okay, this is actually I think similar to
how I did it. Okay, I forgot the whole bid
day boddy thing.
Speaker 9 (38:42):
Yes, And so they make it a big thing that
like there is no favoritism.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
It's honestly great.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
Like I look back on it as one of the
most fun times of college. I was so spoiled. I
was being taken out to dinner.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Oh yeah, and especially as a freshman, you're like, okay,
I get a free meal, and if you know, and
especially if a lot of older sisters wanted to go
on dates with you. There would be times where you're like,
you had your breakfast, lunch, and dinner paid for. It
was amazing.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
And then the way like we do it too is
ubers are paid for to parties, like you don't leave
without your We call it a beta. Everyone has a
different name. But it is like princess treatment to the max,
which is such a funny like contrast from the way
that fraternities do it, because oh yeah, they're over here
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getting like haste and we're getting spoiled.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
M hmm.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
I think I see the most money my entire college
experience that like four weeks of whatever that big little
process was.
Speaker 9 (39:46):
So it is like painful, but anyways, you get to select.
It's like mutual selection every time. So you get to
select who you want to be prepaired with from the
beginning of the week, and then the younger member also pairs,
and then we have someone that like facilitates that pairing
and that's.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Who you're matched with each week.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
And so, like Grace said, I knew that we were
probably gonna end up together in the end, so I
actually took the approach of like I'm going to pick
other new members in my sorority to get to know
everybody else, because I'm only going to be hanging out
with Grace for like the majority of the time after
this small period is over, and so I'm like over
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here selecting other girls. I actually tricked her and told
her that I didn't pick her up as my little,
which is another story. But after the reveal, this was
a few weeks after, and I get called into our
sororities MCC, which is like standards, Yeah, and I was
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so confused. I hadn't done anything wrong to my knowledge,
and I guess someone was like out to get me
and said that I was favoring Grace and like claimed
her so that nobody else in the chapter could have
her as her little. And I did post a picture
with her on mid day. Wait, that's normal, It's like
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is that not allowed?
Speaker 1 (41:13):
No, That's so normal though, because also during rush process,
if you vibe with somebody and then obviously they come
into your sorority, you're like yay, like I have my
potential new member that I wanted in my sorority now.
Speaker 9 (41:26):
Right, And even the girls in Standards were like laughing.
But the way we do it is you have to
address anything any type of plane that is sent in.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So it was all just.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Kind of ridiculous. But it's such a funny testament to
like the rules of sorority. Like everything is about these
strict rules that we have to follow, and it is
just not real life.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
No, it's like this book that we have to follow.
And then when you get into the real world after
college and realize that none of this crap matters, it's funny, right,
I mean, even when you're like five minutes until I mean,
I would say after your freshman year, you know that
none of this really matters. But it's just kind of
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like a part of Greek life and a part of
the traditions and kind of how things work.
Speaker 9 (42:16):
No, it totally is. There's also like a lot of
tension during that time. I feel like, because every new
member that just like went through recruitment is like now
comparing like, oh, well, this sorority does this to their
new members, or this person does this.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But there's a.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
Sorority at our school that we tend to have tensions with.
But we had a brat party probably at our school
that hosts the most things, is the most lively, was
our favorite to go to always, and it was pretty
much just us in this other sorority, and I'm there,
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I'm having a great time with Grace. We leave, everything's fine.
I'm sitting on the couch after with my guy friends
and they're like, look at this video. It's so funny.
They proceed to show me a video of one of
them peeing on the composite of this other sorority. They
grabbed the frame, put it in the toilet, and peede
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on it. The next morning, I waked up to a
paragraph in our group chat with this other sorority, because
we're all pretty close with each other.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Thinking that, like, you guys set this up.
Speaker 9 (43:28):
Yes, so one of my guy friends actually blamed the
entire thing on us, and I just remember thinking, like,
right as things were starting to get good, like we
were all getting along, so well, this happens.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
But honestly, the frats probably did it on purpose. Michelle
and Grace, thank you guys so much for coming on
to Dirty Rash and telling me your crazy cirrity life
stories and your pledge stories. But I'm happy that you
guys came out on top and found your way to
each other. Yeah, but thanks for going on Dirty Rush
a bye bye. Thanks so much, to all the girls
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for sharing their crazy Pledge stories from all ages, sororities,
and colleges. We love hearing your stories, so keep them coming.
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