Jenn’s Men

 The contestants for Jenn Tran’s season of The Bachelorette have been announced! Ben and Ashley run through the list and give their snap judgements on who we think will cause drama, who will be a breakout star, and who will go all the way to the final rose. 

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's another week, which means we have another episode of
the Almost Famous podcast. Listeners. It's an exciting time of
The big reason is because we are getting back into well,
let's say, are regularly scheduled programming. The Bachelorette is around
the corner and we're getting be excited for it here.

(00:26):
So we're gonna start teasing this season, talking about this season,
talking about the men that will be competing. A part
of participating in this season, Ashley myself are here to
break down all the men. This is according to the
Variety articles.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So yes, so guys, you know how this goes. We've
done it.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
We've probably done it at least twenty times. Now.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Ben is going to give his jump conclusion as to
who these guys are.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I can't believe I've never gotten in trouble. Not getting
in trouble is so impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
And yet I'm still scared to get in trouble. So
I don't like to do my my my jump impression
to them, so I'll give some tidbits about them.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm gonna be pretty judgmental today, is why. Well, before
we get started Ashley. I don't know if I'm just
seeing things on social media. You know, I don't know
what happens on social media very well or very often,
usually about one step behind. But I see these men
posting pictures. It's the first time I think that the

(01:33):
show has probably asked the men to post a picture
of themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
The first time they did this last season.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
We'll see. Like I said, I'm one step behind. I'm
one season behind. That's fair. But their captions are about
as bad as I could imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Okay, well, it's always more cringing to see guys post
on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm a lover boy? What are you talking about? You
do your buddies call you a lover boy?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Who's calling you a lover boy? Or I'm a hunk? Wait?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Do you think that they give them the captions to
a post?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think they're giving There's no way these dudes are
that bad. There's no way these dudes are that cringey.
If they are, we have a really hard season in
front of us. I don't believe they are. I think
the show and the social media team is saying, here's
how we see you. Here's the caption the post, and
they're saying whatever, I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, I know that in the contract they're like now
required to post whatever they ask them to.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
What a weird switch. I mean, the show literally went
from being like, hey, let's not do anything.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's all censored material. It's also that they give them
they can't post whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, well, the men have been released. We're gonna run
through them the day. Get your list in front of you,
get ready for a lot of fun. Again, I don't
know these guys. I'm sure they're all great. I'm sure
they're all very nice, they're all very handsome, they're fantas people.
Nothing I say today is true, Nothing I say today
is legitimate. It is all coming from the top of

(03:06):
my head, and it is all me being a fan
of the show and probably gonna be my first impressions
when they come on the show. Ashley take it away, Okay,
he's the first man. Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
So like like, like Ben just said, we are following
the Variety listing. So I think it's just alphabetical. I
don't know if the other listings are also alphabetical. But
if you do want to follow along exactly with us,
go to Variety Dot com type in gen TRN Bachelorette
and this will come up. Okay, First off is Aaron

(03:37):
and I feel like I have the most to say
about him because he is Noah Ebbs brother.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You know, Noah as an engaged to Abigail found love on.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Bachelor in Paradise. Those guys are one or guess two
of eleven kids, and these two are twins. There are
seven minutes apart, and Aaron is an aerospace engineer.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
The interesting thing about the show is the argument, you know,
and I get it of Hey, we need all shapes
and sizes represented on this show. That has been a
conversation now for many years. We've seen, Eh, they get
a little better kinda sometimes Wait, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
What do you mean they get a little better. I
think people would argue that they've gotten a little worse.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I think that's a fair argument too. I don't know.
I mean, I'm saying that I'm not giving them credit
for making it any better.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm saying it's like, eh, when we're talking about casting
in general, Yes, I feel like people would argue that
it was our era that was best casted.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Great, I can't I think you're right. I don't think
I can give the show any credit. My point to
all of this when I entered in with this was
I'm I'm very much on board with that, And the
reason is I'm sick and tired of all these dudes
having massive biceps, Like it feels like if you don't
have big biceps, you're not coming up on this show,
Like did you just think you're not welcome here? And

(05:03):
that's unfair to so many of us. Aaron has huge biceps.
You know what I think of Aaron. Aaron is the
brother who made fun of Noah for going on the show,
called him crazy, called him ridiculous, said it was the
stupidest thing ever. And then four years later he's still
single and he's saying, hey, buddy, can you help me

(05:27):
out here? And there's a reason this guy single mostly
because his biceps are so big, and they get it
in the way of any relationship he wants to have. Ben.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Why does he look nothing like Yoah?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Why do you look nothing like your sister?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
He's a twin, you'd think that. I mean, I know,
I gets it they're fraternal, but you think that, look,
I look nothing like Lauren. You should go talk to
the internet. Who's convinced that we're twins.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You look nothing like Lauren. That is so funny.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, Well, moving on. Austin has a mullet and he
is from San Diego, California.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
He's twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
He's a sales executive and he just wants somebody to
love and appreciate his mullet.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
He would love to be Justin Bieber just for a day.
I wonder why just for a day. And he doesn't
go anywhere without his retainers, and he's extremely terrified of snakes.
We won't know Austin he's gone. I mean he'll walk
into the house and out of the house in about
ten minutes. We will never see him talk. The reason
is because I don't trust any man who wears has

(06:34):
a mullet and a diamond gold chain in a picture
that's going to be promoted to the world.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Then you're good at this man. I do love listening
to you do this because you agree.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't think he's around much low. I don't think
he's around very long either.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't know I can actually see him being around.
He's got a warm face.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's what we're looking for in relationships. You know what
I want My husband a warm face.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Warm face, Ben, You're like out of the loop because
you know, mullets are very popular right now.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
They're very they're very trendy. You got to have a
decent hairline for the mole.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Wait does he not?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
He's fine, he's nice. Scroll back up.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay, Brendan. He is thirty from Vancouver. He's a real
estate broker. He's obsessed with skydiving, will always pick dare
over truth, and has one time successfully snuck into Coachella. Okay,
two things here.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Wow man, two things here.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, he's wild so skydiving okay, but always picks Dare
over truth. Like all three of these fun facts tell
us that this guy, yeah is wooo do you pick
truth or dare? Because I always pick truth.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Truth, say, I got to be careful.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
It's truth is just the safer bet. And then like
he's he's snugg into Chokochelle. So that says a lot
about like he wants to go to Coachella that bad
And I'm like, not for me.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, I always pick truth too, because if you know,
I have a lot of weaknesses in life, one of
them which has constantly gotten me in trouble since the
very beginning of my days here on this earth is
I'm an oversharer, so I don't mind telling you anything
you want to know, Like you just might not want
to know what I'm about to tell you.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, we're probably the worst people to even answer this question.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah. I like Brendon for a couple of reasons. One,
he's wearing a shirt in this picture that Jessica just
bought me. I know where it's from, and I refuse
to wear it. I said, Honey, can you imagine me
wearing this like I tried it on. She's like, yeah,
you can't wear them. So I appreciate that he's given
it a shot. Don't hate his outfit. I like him
because he is wearing a watch that is probably from

(08:57):
his grandfather. That is an old, cool, vintage watch, so
he respects family well. At the same time, Brendan's I'm
joking about this. This is all tongue in cheek, because
everything he said in his bio makes me think he's
over compensating for wanting to convince people he's a good
time because nothing about his look says hey I'm a
good time.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, that is so perfectly said. And again, this is
why I leave this up to you. Ben. He also
does not have guns. His arms are definitely less big
than yours.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Let's not judge. I don't think so. I think if
we took a tape measure and wrapped us around both,
he would still beat me here. Okay, all right. I
did have an AB pop out last week, though I did.
I had an AB pop out last week. I was
in a hotel room. I was standing in front of
the mirror. I was looking at my like looking at
myself as I was drying off, and I was like, oh,
there it is, go on.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I think of you as having abs over arms.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, that's what I think comes more naturally when I
see myself in my dreams. It's always abs over arms.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, okay, Brett, let's just like address the elephant in
the room. Brett is one of the chubbier guys we've
ever seen on the show, and that's a very very
cute thing. He is a teddy bear. People are gonna
love him for this. You know that he's gonna probably

(10:19):
poke fun at the fact that he's one of the
bigger guys that's every bit on the show, and he's
got a smile. It's also very big and warm. He
is a health and safety manager from Pennsylvania. He's twenty eight.
He can do splits and do them on command. So
we'll see that night one in action.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I'm sure what a wild irony. One of the larger
men we've ever seen come on the show who can
also do the splits. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
As a kid, he accidentally shaved off his own eyebrows
before picture day. Yea. And how does it accidentally happen
is one of the questions we'll have to ask him
when he comes on the podcast. And he's never left
the US, but would love to one day.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Brett is Brett is gonna be awesome. I will tell
you he's gonna make great television. He is warm and fuzzy,
and he seems like the guy that will protect all
the men on this season and also jin he is
like the guy that you'll lean on when stuff starts
to go awry because he's a big dude. Uh and
not like big in terms of weight. He's like you

(11:27):
can just tell he's like a big man. He's he's
built big.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
He's not supposed to be a fan.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
No, there's there's no way he Uh. He looks like
a grizzly bear to me, that's kind of gonna be like,
I'll remember him by being a grizzly bear. The only
thing I'll say about Brett is I can't tell with
his hairdo if he is trying to do all or not.
It does look like he's let some stuff hang out
in the back shave his sides. Oh yeah, look at that.

(11:54):
So he's kind of in between on his look. I like,
I like somebody that sells out goes one hundred percent
needs direction. Either you're gonna have one or not.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
You don't like it when they have them, though, well
you eliminate them.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Pull it off. Some some pull it off. I think
Brett will be around a while. I don't know if
he's around the whole time. I do think we're gonna
enjoy Brett, and I think he is going to steal
the heart of America because I do believe he's just
a good dude.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, he's top ten. Next time is Brian. I have
a lot to say about Brian because he is an
aesthetics consult consultant thirty three from I know from Bolton Beach, Florida.
So there's a couple of things here that made me
think Jen is going to be a physician's assistant. I

(12:45):
don't know if she's gonna specialize an aesthetics. For some reason,
in my head she was, but it could just be
because she's very pretty and I can see her going
into that field. But she's also from Florida, so I
was like, Okay, well this is interesting. They may have
some commonalities right off the bat, but then I find
that he loves botox and doesn't care who knows it,

(13:07):
and he's a big fan of Travis Kelsey and Taylor's relationship,
and it's like, like, this guy seems a little metro
for me now, a little too much, you know. So Ben,
being that Jess is in the aesthetics realm and at
her spots, I think they even have botox, what does
she think about botox?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Now?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Listen. I think that there's some guys that like, if
you want to, if you want to lessen some wrinkles, okay,
but I think every girl agrees that guys look sexy
with wrinkles as they age, and they definitely don't want
them frozen. Just looking at Brian, he looks like a

(13:47):
man who wants to be frozen, and I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I know, how my wife would respond. She would tell me,
when it comes to this kind of stuff, you do
what makes you feel best. Like I've teased with her, like, hey,
I'm going to Turkey and I'm getting hares plants in
like five years when everything falls.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Out, Why wouldn't you just do that beforehand?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I might it might be befour or five years, I
might disappear from here, come back with a shaved head
and some lindmarks, and you're gonna be like, oh, yeah,
he did it.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I have no all for hair plugs. We all, Jared
and I have always talked about this.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I have no qualms with this. With botox, I
think she would say the same thing if you if
you want to get it, she would say, you don't
need it. Though I do have a great nighttime routine
right now that is eliminating a lot of the wrinkles.
But the wrinkles are coming from dry skin. And Jessica
has always said dry skin is aging skin. So she
wants me to keep my skin hydrated because she doesn't

(14:39):
want my skin to go like to get bad. And
so if you notice right now, I have a pasty
white glow and that's very white right now, I'm very
white right now because I'm putting SPF on my face
every day.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
No, you have a very you have a zinc oxide
face sunscreen. That so my wife is protecting me.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
She's not saying, hey, if you get wrinkles, like, I
don't think you're in he has attractive She might say
you'd be more attractive. But what she's doing is protecting
me from aging early and trying to keep my skin
as healthy as possible. So botox doesn't really do that, right,
you're just covering up. Wow.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, I mean botox will help not age you for sure, sure.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
But I'm saying there's ways to keep your skin healthy
so that botox might not have to be an option.
My point to all of this is I respect anybody
that's going to get botox that's confident in getting botox.
So if you're gonna get it, talk about it. I'm
not saying like you need to promote it, like walk
down the street and be like, hey, I just got
some botox. I'm looking good. But when somebody asks you, hey,
you don't have any wrinkles in your skin, what do

(15:36):
you do? You would say, I get botox, Like, be
confident in your choicely. Oh, I don't want you to
be lying to me. I have friends that get botox
that look, you know, twenty years old. They're lying to
me because they'll never tell me. But I know because
my wife tells me that's what that's botox. I don't
respec anybody's gonna lie to a friend. I just like
the guy to have a little bit more. I want

(15:58):
the guy to have.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
More wrinkles than me. I suppose as we age, but again,
not against a little brotox, just to soften them just
a bit. Okay, Ben, is that is clinical sunscreen you
have on right now?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Actually, I feel it, I know, because it's has very
much of a white cast, but it's it's highly recommended
in one of one of Just's favorite brands.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
As it is, I think it is my own. Yeah, yeah,
she's she loads me up. You should see my counter.
It's amazing what I put on my face at night.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I don't even I need you to talk to Jared
about just taking care of his skin and how you've
gotten into your routine because this man, he thinks it's girly. Regardless.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
At this point, I have nothing to lose. Here's my
thoughts on this guy. Okay, it's mostly coming from a
quote he says in his bio. He goes, I hope
to meet the woman of my dreams, my partner in crime,
my queen. That's all really cool, right at the surface.
It's also very surface level, like you are entering into
an event in your life where you are potentially potentially

(17:00):
meeting your wife. And if that's all you have to
say when somebody asks you, what are you looking for
in your partner? He's or through this experience, he's like,
I'm hoping to meet my queen. Let's let's talk about
like the a little depth. So this guy is trying
to figure it all out. He's trying to figure out
who he is, what he wants in life. He's trying
to hold on as long as possible based on his

(17:20):
behaviors in order to meet somebody someday and I and
for his sake, I hope he does. It's not going
to be the experience he meets somebody through. He's not
going to be the one with her at the end.
And the big reason I can say that so confidently.
He has a watch strap that matches the color of
his shirt. He took way too much time, like cared
way too much.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh this is just so good because Ben points out
these things that I would never notice, like guys apparently
pay way more attention to watches than women.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
If you've ever seen any guy be like, Hey, I
got to put on my blue strap today because I'm
wearing a blue shirt. Like is that a guy? Like
You're like, yeah, I get it. Man that says that
that that that's cool? Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Dakota is next. He has a bleached blonde buzz cut,
which I can't wait to hear about, with really dark brown,
really dark bushy brows. He is a wine expert.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
How do you say this?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
How do you say it best? Somalia's twenty seven from Arizona.
His fun facts include that one time he spontaneously drove
to Mexico at three am, just with the clothes on
his back, So that kind of sounds sketchy to me.
And then he dreams of becoming one of the very

(18:46):
few elite so whatever they are Somalia's uh huh. And
he has a tattoo saying the biggest thing in today's
sorrow is the memory.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Of yesterday's joy. A lot of stuff here. One actually
like his look. One of my neighbors here high school
kid just did this to his hair bleach blonde hair,
brown hair. Originally it must be a thing, right now,
I can see it coming up through you know, through
the ages.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Now, yeah, you totally had frosted tips as a kid.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I tried. I put lime or lemon juice in my hair,
just mostly turned orange. And yeah, so I didn't really
go all out.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I want to see sixth grade Ben Higgins being like
so hot with his orange frosted tips.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
The acne braces and frosted tips. Let's go, you know what.
But like, I'm down with the code of doing this.
I have a lot of respect for Smaalie's. It is
one of the hardest professions. It's also one of the
hardest things to achievements, certificate certifications.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Together, so interesting, very impressive.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
And to become a master smaller, Like I judge food
scenes in cities based on how many Master Small's are
actually existing in that city, and I think Denver only
has three. Like it's a big deal to get the
master small a license, and so if this is his
pursuit and he loves wine that much. Got a lot
of respect for this guy. I think he's very interesting.

(20:15):
That's the reason I say it. Somala's are always very
interesting as long as they don't want to talk about
wine all the time. They understand ag, they understand whether
they understand geography very well, and that always is intrigued
in history. So I love that. I am concerned because
one of his fun facts is that he drove to

(20:35):
Mexico at three am with the clothes under that. Two
questions there, why at three am were you driving at all?
Why were you not sleeping? What's happening in your life
that you need to be.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Apley going to Mexico at three am in such a hurry.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
The second part is it's not that impressive, buddy, you
live in Arizona, Like you're not that far. It's like,
you know, it'd be different enough. I was like, hey,
I drove from Denver to New York City through the night,
you know, just to have dinner with my family, so
we don't have any context here. The second part is like,
this isn't that that far to drive. It's like for
him it could be a couple hours. So you just

(21:08):
like decided at three am to drive in Mexico. Awesome,
super cool, don't know why you did it. Don't know
why that's one of your cool facts, especially if you're
a master Somalia. My final point to Dakota is like, again,
I do think he's going to be interesting. I do
think I'm going to enjoy watching him. I do think
I'm gonna enjoy hearing what his perspective is on different situations.
I'm hoping he's not a dud. And every time they

(21:31):
like sit down for cocktails at night, he's like telling
everybody about the wine. That would be annoying. However, he
seems to live in a place that I just don't understand.
And the place that I don't understand is living in
the past. The biggest thing in today's sorrow is the
memory of yesterday's joy. So do you not are you
not enjoying the present moment's joy? Like are you are

(21:52):
you looking back always at what happened in the past
and not ever being where your feet are now? My
question is to you, are what's going to happen in
a relationship, what's gonna happen when you're a partner of somebody?
Are you going to always be living in the past
kind of manipulating the relationship by saying, yeah, but you
remember when you remember, when you remember when? That is

(22:14):
something I can't get behind. It's not something that's progressive
in nature. And it's also not healthy to not be
where your feet are in the present moment. Like right now,
you know my quote would be on my ribs. What
I'm enjoying the almost famous podcast right here, right now,
this is my joy Okay on a devon on a devn.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
He is from Texas and he is a freight company owner.
That sounds like a show, right.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
He sounds like he's bonaire.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Okay, you said it and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, he sounds like he's very wealthy.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
And the most interesting fun fact about him is that
he loves eating shrimp tacos despite being allergic to shrimp.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Absolute psycho. So this is quite an.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Interesting character, Ben, you are allergic to shellfish? Yeah, so, like,
what kind of reaction.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do you get?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I've gone into Like I've had a seizure from this
gone Like I've gone into the hospital and had to
be resuscitated from my shrimp allergy. This guy's a psycho
like he is, and he should I want him to
hear me say this. If he came on the podcast,
I would tell him you're a psycho. What are you doing?
Are you? Just like yeah, But maybe he's that wealthy
that like, you know, he's like, hey, it's cool. I
like shrimp, so like if I need to, I got

(23:41):
an eppie penal just sticking my leg after every dinner. Yeah,
absolute madness. Like there's nothing that makes sense about this
man anymore. I thought I was gonna like him. I
was like, hey, he's a business owner, you know, he
he's got a good financial base. He's obviously an athlete
because it says he ran a two hundred mile relay
race with his buddies. Super cool. I don't know how
many miles of that he ran. He could have ran

(24:02):
one mile. But the fact that he's down to eat
shrimp like this is just dangerous.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Like I think about how like sometimes pineapple will make
my mouth a little bit like sore, and I'm like,
and I think about that every time I pineapple, And
that's I wouldn't even call.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
That an allergy whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
It's maybe a sensitivity like mango I have, Like I
get like a little I get irritated, Like my whole
body will get irritated. With mango, and I know, like
absolutely no, would I go and just eat that just
for fun because I like the taste of it so much.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And there's severities to allergies. Shellfish is a very severe
allergy typically, like you.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Don't know that shellfish, but shred shrimp is a shellfish, right.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's a shellfish allergy. This man's this man is absolutely crazy.
I need to hear why. I need to hear how
and what has made his life so sad that he's like,
I'm down to risk it, Like give me that. Yeah,
I would love to.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I'm that interested.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
All Right, that's it for him.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Okay, I thought, so.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I thought that's all we needed from him. Okay. So Dylan.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
He is a medical student from California. He's twenty four.
He likes wine and pet date wine and painting date nights.
He hates avocados. He will be surrounded by them in
the Bachelor mansion. Everybody is eating avocado toast all the time.
It's where I think I have my first avocado actually,
and I also don't.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think they're highly overrated. So thank you, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
And this is not that fun of a fact. But
he's never stepped foot in a trader Joe's. Maybe there's
just not one around him, But I like him and
I always will. Like a guy who's in medical school.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Actually really missed on her husband's choice. So she's likes
the guy in medical school. Yeah, I mean, I think
he's probably gonna be great. The issue is here, he's
never stepped foot in a Trader Joe's because he hasn't
been that much time I'm here on earth. He's only
twenty four years old. I know, he's so young. I'm like,
are you really going to be a doctor. Yeah, you don't.
I mean, but you don't go to a Trader Joe's

(26:07):
until you're in your you know, mid to late twenties,
and then all of a sudden you're like, this is
the best place on earth.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Waits so much good point. I don't think I went
to a church until about twenty four.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean, so it's cool that you haven't been,
but there's a lot of things you haven't done. Man,
you're twenty four years old, Like you're young. You got
to lie at a life to experience. I hadn't gone
in these things at twenty four. You're gonna be a
nice guy. You're going to do great here. I'm sure
you're around for a bit, but life experience wise, I
would not continue to tell people what you haven't done.

(26:40):
I would just talk about what you have done, because
there's going to be a lot of things that a
guy at thirty four, which we have that age on
the show has done compared to you. You do not
want to start highlighting your age.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, yes I agree. And Grant is next, and he
is he's cute. He's a thirty year old day trader.
He's actually a former pro basketball player who's now really
passionate about his new career as a day trader, and
he hopes to provide for his family. He also helps

(27:15):
to visit every country in his lifetime, just like maybe
a little over the top. He is an avid salsa
dancer and he wishes that he could live to the
year three thousand to see what technology is like, not
to see if the Jonahs Brothers song is true.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Couple of things. One, he is wearing my favorite color
shirt of all time, this shirt right here, Like that's
my that would be my thing, love the color. Second,
a very accomplished man in life so far, professional basketball player,
wants to travel a lot, super cool. Based on the

(27:59):
past and the history of this, and I want listeners
to pay attention to this. Day trading is a very
very umbrella term. You can be a day trader for
in institutional trading, that's an incredible job. But a brokerage firm,
some type of like financial services form, some type of
wealth management firm, you could even kind of do it

(28:19):
for private capital. A lot of ways to day trade.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Most of the time on this show, when we've had
somebody tell us they're a day trader, it means they're
doing it from their desk, on their own, with their
own money, and they're just trying to make it day
by day. That typically statistics will tell us is not
a great path in life. Very few actually make money
being a day trader on their own. So, based on

(28:46):
the past and based on what people have told us,
and they think it's a very like sexy job title,
I am concerned until we find out hobby. Yeah, yeah,
like your job is your hobby, and this hobby is
incredibly risky. Very few do it well, and so I
want to know who Grant works for or if he's
just doing it on a his zone. That would be

(29:07):
my big question here. Other than that, I like his
shirt and I can't see what watch he's wearing to
match it, so I'm in okay, great, alrighty.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So next up is hikem Hiqima. Is a very interesting
pose going on. He's got one finger by his cheekbone.
He has a watch visible. I'd love for you to
tell us what this watch means. He is from Illinois.
He is a medical sales rep. He's twenty nine. He
can fully clap with one hand, which absolutely confuses me.

(29:57):
I don't okay, we'll have to see the Night One too.
That would be the wildest limits you imagine.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
He's like, look at this.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So sexy. He he takes dating. This is concerning to me.
He takes dating so seriously that he spent over five
thousand dollars on a dating coach. So that makes Does
that make you feel a little bit weird? It does
like he might be too over eager, Like he's going
to be that guy Night one that's going to try

(30:29):
to be like that VH one. Yeah, whatever his name was,
remember that dating guru on VH one, And he like
thought he knew all the moves to like win over
a lady.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
H I there's There's two ways that goes here. One,
he recognizes his weaknesses and he recognizes maybe that he's
a little socially awkward, that he gets a little anxious
on dates, nervous on dates, and he can't be himself,
and he bought he got this coach to help him,
you know, get over that fear or that burden or
that boundary. I would I respect that. The second would

(31:00):
be I want to know all the right things to
do too to win over a lady. There was an
old Instagram account back when I was like probably right
out of college. I would follow and it was giving
tips on dating and there's a podcast to go along
with it. I was listening to it all the time.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, like I've done that, Like I did like a
Matthew Hussy thing like one hundred dollars, like Matthew Hussey tutorial.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
And I think and so like there is a level
here where all of us, as we've talked about, have
issues with dating. We talked about that in the Almost
Good Advice episode that just came out. You should listen
to it. So if he did just get over zealous
and he's going to go out there and try to
like swoon with all the right lines and being like
this robot. Then I have massive concerns because my advice

(31:44):
to anybody that asks any dating advice, I don't have
great dating advice, but my dating advice to them would be, Hey,
you ultimately, at the end of the day, want to
find a partner that you can be your best self
around and your most genuine self around. And so any
type of coaching or teaching, if it's going to level
of like saying the right things and doing the right
things to swoon them over, to almost trick them. It

(32:05):
feels like, in my mind is the word I want
to use. Step away from it. Be yourself. You're gonna
find somebody. If you're a nerd, you're gonna find somebody
loves nerds. If you're like a super like swoony cool dude,
you're gonna find somebody. It's looking for that. But ultimate,
at end of the day, if we're looking for a
partner for life, you've got to find somebody that knows
you for you and loves you for you, your awkwardness,

(32:26):
your weirdness, whatever. So we'll see with a chem My
initial reaction here, my thought is that he did this
because he felt like he was continually like being awkward
on dates and he just needed needed pushed over the.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
This guy just that that's like the sum up he looks.
He's like, he appears awkward, but like.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Five thousand bucks goodness rats at age twenty nine. See
that seems like something you would do to in your
upper thirties. Yeah, okay, good for him.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Next guy stood out to me as being a total
front runner. Han Okay. He's from New York City, he's
a startup founder. He's twenty eight, and I mean this
is the writing of the Bachelor producers. I think it
says he's extremely smart and the successful guy. He's one

(33:16):
of Forbes thirty under thirties. That's a big deal. He
wants to challenge you in a game of chess, You're
most likely going to lose. You're he's out of commission
if he's hungry, and he wants to learn how to
fly a plane.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I think this guy.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Is going to be impressive, but not in like a cockyway.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Actually, are we still into the butt chin? Yeah? Yeah,
I will always be into the butchein the butch Yeah
has one? Yeah? So yeah, Ben Affleck, I just I
love it. Yeah, what is it about it that you love.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
It's masculine to me. M it's just in his character.
And Henry Cavill like, yeah, butntions are great.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, yeah, this guy, this guy is uh. I mean,
I don't have a lot to say about him because
being in thirty under thirty, like that's impressive to me,
and probably so many He.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Looks like he is used to taking pictures like this.
He's very comfortable in front of Henry.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, he's twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
So my concern with this guy is he has so
many women to choose from.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
No, not at all, no doubt he does. I bet
he has worked really hard up until twenty eight. If
he's made thirty under thirty by twenty eight, that's really impressive.
I would say my concern will be with him when
you have typically not everybody, but when you have success
that sets a young age, your ego can really take
over everything else and so weird does his ego lie?

(34:54):
Like how cool does he think he is? That will
be the thing I'm watching because tip it could be
very he could very easily slip into I'm better than
everybody else, or he could not. But if he stays humble,
if he has keeps perspective. If he lets his ego
not control everything, then this guy is a frontrunner.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, he can be a front runner, or he could
be a villain. Fine line. All right, Uh, we have
Jeremy next. He is also from New York City. He's
twenty nine. He's a real estate investor. He's had long
term relationships in the past, but has been unlucky in
love ever since. He wants to live abroad someday. He

(35:39):
loves getting eight hours asleep, and his ideal meet the
family date would be inviting a girl over for passover dinner.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
What's up with these knitted shirts these days? Are these in?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Like?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Just this is the stuff Jess was buying me and she's.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like it looks Jared hates a knitted sweater.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I feel like my nipples would pop out right, Like
when did they show through?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I guess you may want to wear an undershirt with it.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Well, then what's the point of wearing the shirt If
I'm wearing an undershirt? Why did I wear two shirts?
They just make Jared feel like a grandpa. He hates them.
They always hit the donation pile.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, I'm a big grandpa guy.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Oh yeah, you love being Grandpa.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But like these, these I just couldn't pull off confidently.
I don't feel like I could pull them off confidently.
I feel like everything would be showing underneath all the time.
I feel like I'd be cold when I shouldn't be.
Like a long sleeve shirt.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
That's knitted, you think they have holes enough in them?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yes, I do. I don't like blankets like this, Like
this isn't my thing. Like if I want a blanket,
it's gonna it's not getting air from the outside end. Yeah,
And I also wonder how he's never worn this shirt.
The reason I say that is because anytime I wear
a shirt like this, no matter how much I try,
I come home and there's like the threads pulled out right,

(36:58):
like I've snagged in on something. So he's never worn
this shirt because he looks like a snagger, Like he
looks like a guy that's gonna snag it very quickly
and easily. He's risking a lot by wearing this shirt.
And maybe that's the only thing I have to say
about this guy. He's he's a risk taker. He wears
knitted shirts. He's confident enough to wear knitted shirts. I

(37:20):
respect anybody that's able to admit they want to get
eight hours of sleep. It matters when those eight hours
of sleep are happening, are happening from midnight to eight.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Oh, here comes then in his judge, his judgy morning.
He's a morning riser, guy, I'm a morning riser. He's
there a freaking judge morning riser. Man.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, there's a reason we call it morning. There's a
reason the sun comes up, because we come up with it.
I don't I don't know why we would sleep any
later than when the sun wants us.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
This is where we've gone, and I you know, we
could not We could never have been together.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
No, no, because we never see each other. We literally
never see each other. I'd be up moving, I'd be
asleep by the time you wake up for the day.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Can we've gone far off the beaten pack now, Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Jeremy's like a second weeker. That's my take.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Okay, I can I can get behind that.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Got another one of these knitted shirts here? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
This is not a knitted shirt. This is but this
is like the exact same shirt that what's his name.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Was wearing earlier, and they all wear the same thing.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's like this is like a stretchy like this is
a stretchy material.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
People can't see this, so we're gonna move on. He's
also a medical student. He's twenty five. He's from Florida,
so that's good for Jen and again commonalities medical student, physicians,
assistant student from Florida. I like this for them already
have things to talk about. He's obsessed with all things Christmas,

(38:46):
which is I think good sign. He once stayed awake
for thirty six hours plus playing ping pong, so he
has a little force gump in him and stamina and stamina,
and he's learning Spanish.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
He seems sweet. I like this guy, my honest take. Yeah,
he wins, really I do. I just see it. Howld's
Jen though.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Story twenty six, so he's only a year younger.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I just think he. I mean, he's final four
for me, no question. Yeah, I mean and kind of
just how his bio is written from the producers, it
makes it points to him being around a while like
heart of Gold, athletic stud like there he's smart, like
they're seeing things for us to celebrate him. He also,

(39:34):
unlike people previously, his quote is he's hoping his future wife,
is compassionate, honest, and ambition is different. Yeah, it's better
than being like I want to find my queen. Yeah,
come on, but I think John's around a while. I
just think we should definitely book him into the top four. Okay,

(39:55):
cool like it.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Jonathan Jay is next. He is a creative direct from
La He's twenty seven. He's funny. He calls himself not
a short king but a medium king, which I kind
of think that he might be a short king, and
he wants to move to Hawaii for a year. He
says that I treat every girl the same way that

(40:18):
I would want to see my mother and sister treated.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
So that's sweet.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's always good to have a guy with a sister calling.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Himself medium sized. Any of my buddies who call themselves
medium sized or not medium size. He's also though, has
another but chin Ashley's real into it thing. So if
Jin's into it, she's got many options. Jonathan at the
end of the day, he's cute. I don't think he's
going to be around for a while. Yeah, he's good
looking stud not gonna be around that long. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
So Kevin's next. He's from Denver. I wonder if you've
ever fallen into the same circle. He's thirty five, he's
your age, a financial analyst.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Know this man.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
This is going to not impress you because he's been
skiing over two hundred times and you're like, yeah, welcome
to Denver.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah it's you know, you get up thirty forty times
a year. That's a few years. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Oh, he wants to own his own barbecue restaurants, so
you can go into business with them after this.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
We need more of those. We don't have a lot
of good barbecue here in Denver, Okay. And and then
he doesn't like bugs. Well, that's good that you live
in Denver. Then, other than the moths and spiders, we
don't have a lot of a lot of bugs here.
I should know this guy, and it almost concerns me
that I don't. He lives he works in the same
industry I worked in. He lives here in Denver.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Well, he doesn't work in the restaurants yet he wants Well,
he was hers in finance.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I was in finance for five years out here. That's
what it was. We were in finance when you were
writing the tiny booklets. Yeah, that's what I was doing. Oh,
nice man. Probably you know, gonna go far. He's very

(42:05):
clean shaven. He's too clean though. Yeah, he's very clean.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
That hair, says Robbie Hayes.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Oh does it? It kind of does? Doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Like that?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
He actually looks a little bit like Robbie.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, And you know, I guess if you're gonna be clean,
you can't wear it. I don't think you can wear it.
And I'm sure right like that's a cowboy. Look. Oh,
now you're really reading thing, reading into his style? What
else am I doing here? I know nothing about any
of us men? All right? Continue? Okay.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Marcus is next. He is from Raleigh, North Carolina. He's
an Army Ranger veteran, and he is thirty one. The
producer say he's a red life superhero, the military veteran
and Harvard alum. Is excited to meet Jen and hopes
that she's him. The superhero thing actually works when you

(42:59):
put all of those things together. He hopes that she's kind, honest,
and humble, the kind of woman that she's been searching for.
He loves to binge watch New Girl. He hopes to
be an astronaut one day. Wow. He is ambitious and
his haired flower is the Adelweiss because it's a symbol

(43:20):
of dedication and it's a great song from the sound
of Music.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I want to know when he's planning on becoming an astronaut,
because he's thirty one years old at this. You know,
right now NASA is recruiting kids that are a lot
younger bringing him up through the system, So he might
have missed his chance there. But who am I to
tell somebody not to pursue their dreams.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I wonder what he studied for him to want to
go into that.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I mean, something very smart. He went to Harvard. The
big thing on this guy is he does have a
lot going for him. I just don't know why he's
sitting the way he's sitting. He literally is just framing
his crotch with white hands on and the camera person
was like, hey, take that one piece of your shirt,

(44:05):
the corner of it. Just lay it over so it
covers it up. But like, what a weird way to sit.
I can't can't believe the things you pick up on.
Isn't that weird though? Doesn't it kind of look uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Like to me, you're totally right, Like he.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Probably can do the splits, like you know, forget about
the guy earlier. This guy's doing the splits in his photo.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Well wait till you see the next photo. Look at Marvin.
His whole hand is covering his junk.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
It's just a weird way to do a close up.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
If his hand wasn't there, you would definitely be able
to see an outline.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, it's just a weird way to take a close
up photo. So it's not as much on these guys
as it's much on the photographer. But like, why do
we need to see what's happening? Like, just show us,
you know, from chest up, pup whatever. That's so true.
We just need really, we do, just need chest up.
I'm a big fan of this guy already. You want
to know why, Ashley, Yeah, why love the T shirt

(44:59):
jacket combo combo. I think it's so underrated. I think
it's such a smooth, good look, and I think it
can be traveled in. I think it can go to
meetings in. I think it shows confidence and it shows comfort.
He can slip those pants off, put on some athletic
shorts and go for a run within two minutes. And
I am all about efficiency, So I like what he's
doing here.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Well, he's probably all about that efficient life because he's
a luxury event planner. He's twenty eight. He's from Santa Monica, California.
He's the CEO of his own company, and he loves
things that are luxurious in life. He's always down to
be like you have noticed a GQ ready, but he's
also down to go camping and explore nature, so he's

(45:40):
ready to get those shorts on. How did you know this?
He was born in Cameroon, Africa. He speaks French fluently,
and he dreams of buying a beachside mansion in Malibu.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I hope he does it one day. I hope he
does everything he dreams of. It's a lofty goal, it is.
I think as we get older in life, those kind
of things become less and less important because it seems
like it pushes me to pursue things I don't necessarily
feel as healthy for me or my relationship. For him,

(46:15):
he might be able to do it all, and I
hope this man does again. I like him because I
think in a Rose simony, He's going to rock this
same look and I'm going to respect it. It's better
than the sweater sweatshirt jacket combo. They have me in
as the bachelor. I think a T shirt so much better,
so much easier to go. He's probably around a while

(46:38):
because I do think he probably is is charismatic, but
I still not picking him in my top four. I
think he's a top sixer.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Okay, I would say top eight er. Moving on to Matt.
Matt has an interesting look. He pretty much has a
handlebar mustache, then has not continued with the goatee. He
just has a soul patch on his chin. He also

(47:07):
has short dreads and he is an insurance executive twenty
seven from Atlanta, Georgia. Climbing Mount Egg climbing Mount Everest
is at the peak of his bucket list pun intended,
and he really wishes that he could teleport. He's also
the only person in his family that has red hair.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Ben, this dude would be so handsome without the handlebar mustache.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I will just like, let's let's see what he looks
like without the facial hair.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, because like he's a stud. I think he's a
good time. Mike Mike, Mike take is. He is going
to be a good time. He is going to make
a lot of people happy. He's going to be very
friendly zen and no drama. That's just tough as you
pursue a relationship. I'm all for the no drama, but

(47:57):
having just like a zen household that can be let
that freak you out. It freaks me out. I don't
know how we do that. I have one of the sweetest,
nicest wives ever, and there's just no possibility of us
ever functioning in like a Zen environment. Conflict is necessary.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Well, also just like I think a little bit of
chaos is comforting.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, it just feels weird to me.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
All right, we have Mosey next. He is from Albany,
New York. He's an algebra teacher. He's twenty five, and
he speaks Spanish fluently. He played football professionally in the
XFL and of course he can't date you if you
have a pet tarantula, so he's not narrowing down his

(48:45):
dating pool very much.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah. He You know what impressive that he did the
XFL thing. I think athletes kind of always have an
advantage on this show because of the competitive drive that
they have. You know, I'm interested to learn more about
this guy. He He's given me a very joyful vibe

(49:13):
right now. But here's the thing I wonder in his life.
So he's an algebra teacher. Now, he played in the XFL.
I was gonna question, like, what has been his life
since the XFL, But honestly, it feels like he's kind
of settled into a good place. We don't see a
lot of male teachers on this show. I have a
feeling we're going to really enjoy our time with Caleb,

(49:36):
and I think we're going to really like him. I
think I'm gonna like him too.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
All right, Ricky, he's from Miami, Florida. He's a pharmaceutical rep.
Twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
A guy like Ricky is every girl's dream. The producer's right.
The former pro baseball player.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Is looking for a deep emotional connection and is tired
of superficial the superficial dating scene. He was born and
raised in Puerto Rico before moving to Florida, and he
learned English as a teen by writing poetry and watching.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Wrong Comes.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Very Lots another Spanish speaker.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
You're doing exactly what he wants you to do, which
makes me concern this guy.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Here's one thing that's super interesting. He never celebrates his birthday.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I don't really either.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I'm not a big birthday person.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You know, we go to dinner.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I don't think too much of it. But like, what
do you mean, like you don't celebrate it? Like do
you just pretend like it's a normal day?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Try to you do? People? I have people in my
life that kind of force me not to. I prefer
not to. I mean it's nice. I guess it's nice
to be like told happy birthday. Yeah, I am appreciative
for you being alive.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
But like, I'm not somebody who's gonna throw myself a
party unless it's like thirty forty and even then it's
gonna be tame.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah. I you know what, I am not the best
person to be breaking down these people. Because here's what
I always just have a hard time with is anybody
that feels like they're trying too hard. I want you
to try hard. I want you to care. I want
you to be intentional. I want you to, you know,
fight for this relationship that you're gonna care about so much.
But anybody that comes and says all the right things

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within the first five minutes have typically been people who
are covering up all the wrong things that you know
are hiding. Now, Ricky, if he truly is this guy
if he truly is the compassionate former professional athlete who's
now has a great job and loves writing poetry and
watching rom coms with you, goodness, gracious, absolute madness. Like

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this guy is gonna swoon every human on this earth.
But it almost sounds a little too good to be true.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Okay, Sam m is gonna go far. He's got the
look of he's just got this look that gets bachelorettes going.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
He's got the Denver tattoo. I don't know, I've seen
too many people have this tattoo. What tattoo is that
it's like pine trees on your wrist area. It looks
cool when you see it, like for the first time,
but so many people out here get it. I mean,
it's kind of like the thing.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
So it just he's from Myrtle Beach too, So he's
a beach guy, not a mountain guy. He's twenty seven.
He's a contractor. He has never been to the West
Coast until he got on the Bachelorette same Really, I
was on the West Coast, but I had never been
to La. He was homeschooled growing up. When he isn't

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working and contracting, He loves to ride motorcycles, golf, and
watch Sons of Anarchy, So like a biker dude.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Well, I kind of I kind of see him being
the Sons of Anarchy type of guy.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, Like he looks like he could be in the show.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, And like my buddies who have that like love
the show. It's a good show. I like that show.
But the people that really get into it like usually
have a little like anger, you know, underneath them, like
the little fire, little spit in vinegar. Did you say
spit in vinegar? Yeah? What does that mean? I don't know.

(53:27):
It's like an expression. That's when I made up. But Sam, like,
uh so that'd be my concern. That'd be what had
I watch out for with Sam. He's either gonna be
a front runner or he's gonna be a villain and
maybe not villainous and like how we usually view villains,
he's gonna get way like angry, way too soon. So

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we just got to watch to see which way that goes.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Okay, Next up is Sam on another Sam and Sam
n he he concerns me, okay, because this is all
I need to read. Sam and loves getting his eyebrows
threaded to keep up with them hashtag on fleek.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Well he is Persian, and my like, my buddy married
a woman who's Persian, and I will say, like the
hair can get out of control, and so it's fair.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Yes, but you saying that your buddy does the threading.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
No, she goes and gets threading. But I mean, if
he says it's on fleek.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Then automatically on fleek, and the fact that he gets
excited about doing it.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
If he says that he keeps his eyebrows on fleek,
then this man will last no more than ten minutes
on this shit.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I know this expression on fleek is so outdated that
even I, as a millennial who like it's on fleek
is something that gen Z would make fun of millennials
for saying six years ago. But like we even know
that that is really embarrassing to say.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Now. So this guy's like.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Meek, how old is he? He's twenty five? He is
a gen Zer interesting, but he is from a big
Persian family. I understand that you're gonna have to do
something to your eyebrows, get it. You're gonna have to
clean them up, You're gonna have to pluck him. You
may even have to like go to the professional but.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I want a guy to get excited about going to
get his eyebrows done. That's all I gotta say about him.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
You like a rough and tumble man. I want a
manly guy.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I want a manly guy who keeps up with himself.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Though.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
All right, Spencer's next, Spencer's cute Spencer. Okay, okay, Spencer,
you're your pet portrait entrepreneur. He's thirty. He's from Dallas, Texas.
He his entrepreneurial work is centered on pets and inspired
by It was inspired by his adorable dog rows. It

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could be wrong, but spelled really fancy in like a
French way. You've got to know more about this profession.
He's that guy that does pet portraits. That's hilarious. He
has hiked forty seven miles through the Grand Canyon for
twenty seven hours straight. He loves watching the office, and

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he's run two ultra marathons in the last year.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
What's an ultra marathon. It's long, long ways. I don't
know how far it is. It's just like running a lot.
I don't think we spend a ton of time on
this guy. I don't think he's around very long. I
do want to know how to decide between people who
are standing and sitting. Seems like a it seems like
a weird, weird vibe there. I think this guy's going

(56:47):
to be likable. I just don't think he's going to
be around very long. I think he's like going to
be like a very friendly, like nerdy, kind of just
goofy guy who walks in and he's he reading his bio.
It reminds me of a lot of people who come
and go very quickly.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Okay, Thomas En. He's from Georgia. He's a retirement advisor
at thirty one. He's from a big Vietnamese family. He's
very proud of his family's culture and heritage, and Jen
is also Vietnamese, so this could be something here. He

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loves watching guys grocer games.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I love that, so do I. And he is a
former professional swimmer. Yeah. Being a professional swimmer is a
massive undertaking. I mean it takes so many hours in
the pool looking down at a line and just grinding,
and I respect that. I think if he spent any
portion of his life training for professional swimming, he has

(57:47):
some grit determination and he knows how to be bored,
which I think is a very underestimated character, and somebody
that you are looking for in a life partner, somebody
who is willing to be bored and knows how to
be bored and can sit in that boredom without like
making everybody else's problem. When you're a swimmer, you spend
a lot of time being bored. They're not a lot

(58:07):
going on.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Really, I never think about that. I think that as
like running, what you'd be bored too.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Think about swimming. You're literally staring at the bottom of
a pool.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Yeah, I guess you're right. Running you're at least getting
new environments.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
And you're like doing it for three, four or five
hours a day every day. Awful. I mean, just I
mean I was a big swimmer. Love swimming, so hard
to keep engaged with.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Did you see any of those Diane Nyak documentaries or movies.
She's a lady who in her sixties swam from Cuba
to Florida. You've got I watch both the movie and
the documentary.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It's wild. It's impressive. So I like this guy. I
think he's around a long time. I think they connect
on a deep level. I think he should be in
our top four. So far, we've only said two people
that I'm confident being the top four. I think he
is in the top four. I like this guy. Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Okay, so Thomas A is gonna be our last guy.
We've gone from them all. He is a physio therapist
from Ontario. What is a physiotherapist?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
You're asking me questions. I don't know what. A physiotherapist
works with patients to help them manage pain, balance, mobility,
and motor function.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
He's like our little jeopardy that comes in all right.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
So he enjoys driving with no specific destination in mind.
He has gone ice skating thousands of times. Okay, you
live in Canada and he dreams of snowboarding in the
Swiss Alps.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
He also plays hockey.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
You know, he's he's got a He's part of a
running group. This is a guy who likes to keep active.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Honestly, we just I can't give this guy much credit yet. Why.
It's also the post, isn't it. It's the his pose?
I mean, like the poor picture that they posted to
him gives him no justice, Like it is literally he's
fighting against the photo.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, he might have a good face, but like we
can't really Yeah, like he might look.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Really good on TV. He might. He's gonna be maybe
the sleeper pick here because because right now they may.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I mean, this is just he likes a nerd bomber.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
They they wildly like messed him over here in this
picture because everything we read in his bio makes him
seem like just like a normal good dude that likes
to have fun, that likes to do that, likes to compete,
that's athletic, all these things that you know, we kind
of look for. He's not saying anything super cringey here,

(01:00:44):
but goodness gracious, his photo makes me think he he
doesn't ever even show up to the mansion. He doesn't
even get out of the car. My gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Okay, So earlier in the episode, when we were looking
for Devin and I said I was gonna DM Devon,
I couldn't find his Instagram profile. Yeah, but I found
this reddit thread that has all the other guys Instagram profiles.
There's only if you missing. And I'm looking at Thomas
now and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
He's really cute. See I told you, I can't even
go deep into this because I just feel like they
really messed him over.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
No way, Like he would be the guy that walks
out of a limo and I go, that could be like,
this guy's my type. I'd be like, that is a
guy I can't wait to talk to. That's shocking based
on this picture.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, they messed him over. Well, that's the guys from
this season. We've ran through them all. Do this in parts.
It's very long, obviously very drawn out, but you at
least get a picture an idea of who these guys
are our first impressions. None of them will ever be
true of each of them. This is our annual breakdown

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the men or women that are announced going into whatever
respective season is coming in front of us. Gen season
is right around the corner. She has a group of men.
Now what this is why this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Game that we just played for the past hour means
absolutely nothing Because I'm looking at this guy's profile right now,
and I'm like, if only we looked at every guy's
Instagram profile to be as fun. Well, I know, should
we do that next time where we just go to
the Instagram because that would be more authentic. Look at
this guy, He's a totally different dude than what we

(01:02:32):
just analyzed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, authenticity is not what this episode is about. This
episode is about everything inauthentic in the world, which probably
makes it one of the most unhealthy episodes we record
all year, every year for the last twenty seasons. Goodness gracious. Well,
we hope that you share your opinion opinions on each
person's first picture, and then we'll be excited to watch

(01:02:55):
these men actually compete or involve themselves in Bachelorette season.
I think she'll have a great group of guys. I
think there's a lot of nice guys here, a lot
of guys with a lot of different personalities, and I'm
excited to see them mix and mingle.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
They say, don't judge a book by its cover. I
think what means even more is, don't judge a man
based on his Bachelorette profile picture.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Please don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Every year we're like ugh, ugh, And then then they
see him on TV and you're like, oh cute, or
you go their Instagram you're like, oh, okay, okay, she
does have a selection.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, I do question some people's decisions to wear matching
watches with shirts. That's just me. Hey, until next time,
I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
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