March 22, 2024 • 21 mins
Lace Morris from Ben’s season reunites with her Bachelor and Ashley only 5 days after becoming a mom!
She gets real about life as a new parent, and opens up about ending her relationship while she was pregnant.
Hear everything from Lace as she navigates co-parenting and being a single mom.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of the Almost podcast.
They were going a little bit in depth with Lace Morris.
We're so excited. She's a new mom, a new mom
of five days. I can't believe we're getting her to
join us now. It's so exciting. Thank you. And also,
you know you guys, if you don't, if you don't
know the name Lace Morris, I'm sure you actually do
(00:29):
because she was a huge star on Ben season, and
she was a huge star and Bachelor in Paradise. We
were there for two seasons together. And Lace, welcome to
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Wait, so you've been on Paradise? How many times? Lace?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Twice?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I was.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
She was with me when Jared and I came back
for a little.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Bit, Case, I was like, how many times? Again?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Lace, We've promised our listeners now for the last week
that we're gonna have you on.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
They're very excited because we did break down the headline that.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
You are a new mother five days ago.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Five days you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Had had to like not stop.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well I get that. I get it because when I
would just had Dawson they had me come on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Or even when they had me, they forced forced me
to come back.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And I was like sitting around like a week or
so later, and I was like, well, I mean I
could do a podcast, like I can get in the
room and like talk on a mic and sit down,
you know when he's napping, like somebody else can hold
him for an hour. So I feel I feel you
(01:46):
on that. But there's a lot of things that I
also could not do at this point, like stand up.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Stand up, Ashley, I've ever done it, and you think
you think so. We have a lot of stairs in
this house, so that doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you've been going up and down the stairs a lot.
I mean, as I did, you know, you gotta go
to bed, you gotta do so I gotta go shower.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, but no, I mean I'm live from the bed.
So we're good.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Okay, So lace catches up a little bit here. You're
living where right now?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm in Denver.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
You're in Denver, Colorado. Yeah, you're out here in Denver.
You are said you're super busy. So what exactly have
you been doing in the last five days that you
feel like you have overdone it, Like, how are you
kind of what is your time being used for right
now other than hey, doing exactly what you're doing right now,
(02:41):
old beautiful baby.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, I mean my parents were here. My mom's still here,
but my dad left, so it's been really helpful having them. Yeah,
but you still got to like get up and get food,
and you gotta change his diaper, and you gotta feed him.
And my dad was here, so I come up to
the nursery to feed him, and you know, just for
(03:03):
some privacy, and then I did get ready a couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You got makeup on. Now you look fantastic. Thanks, you
look your hair's done. You look so amazing ready though, yes,
I remember the getting up to change diapers was like,
I that's not making me get off the couch, Like
I can't do it, like Jared to the majority of
diapers for the first few weeks, because it just hurt.
(03:28):
It really did, it really does. Okay, Well, Lace, you're
an open book. Can you talk to us about just
finding out you were pregnant and all in the beginning
of all.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
This, Yeah, it was a whirlwind because I had just
gotten a new job, like a dream job where I'm
the marketing manager for the Ritz Carlton, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is huge. You know, just got
a new boyfriend. We were brand new and yeah, we
basically hooked up the first week and made a.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Baby the first week of knowing him.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, and I wasn't very smart about it and found
out four weeks later I was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So I mean, was this like, what was your initial reaction?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I was. I couldn't really believe it because I'm like me,
I'm pregnant, Like no, there's no way, Like, yeah, I'm
not that I've ever tried, but I just didn't think
it was possible. So I thought I was tracking properly,
but I guess it wasn't. And I was just kind
of in shock, like pure shock. I don't know if
I could do it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What was the conversation with him?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Like I was scared, but he was really cool about it,
and we just sat on it for a couple of
days and was like, what's the best option. Both both
of us were like, we gotta do it. We gotta
keep him.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And what's your relationship? What was your relationship like throughout
the nine months of pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's been a roller coaster. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Is he local to Denver?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
He's not. He's from Wyoming, but he lives here now,
a job here.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, So just tell us if you feel comfortable talking
or not talking about this. But I'm assuming he was
he present at the birth.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, he was there at the birth. He was present,
and he did great. Unfortunately, it was just not a
very fun eight months and you know, you don't really
know someone, so we had a rough time. We're still
trying to navigate, you know, how to coparent and do everything.
Excuse you?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Is he somebody who wants to be like involved or.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yes, he wants to be in Liam's life. And he's
already a dad. He's already a good dad. But he
he's trying to be as present as he can. So
let's get as long as he is a dad, We're good.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Do you feel like you have enough of a village
around you right now?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I have an army behind me, so I honestly am
so grateful.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
What's the I really want to get into two. I
mean the emotions now that you're holding Liam, like you're
sitting here and you're a mom five days again, which
is just wild that you're here with us, and then
I can see a little bit of Liam's you know face,
absolutely beautiful, Like what does this feel like?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's so weird? I mean you know this actually, but
like it doesn't feel real. Sometimes you're just trying to
are you really mine? Am I really about to take
care of you the rest of my life?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know I had a moment like that a couple
of days ago. I was like, you're half me, Like
I'm hanging out with you, You're half of me.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I've been. It's been a really big emotional rollercoaster
with the emotions so high, obviously for a swoman, but
it's it's it's really hard, Like it's so amazing looking
at him, and I'm like, wow, this is so cool.
But then you're like I don't get my family. I
don't get that perfect picture that I thought I had
(06:52):
right in front of me. But so it's just every
day is different and some days are harder than others.
But when you look at him, you're just like so happy.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah. I mean, Ashley, you could probably speak to this,
but like, what is it like as a mother as
your son gets older? And it does you know, you
do take care of and you do care for but
you like you no longer have to hold him all
the time every day, Like you're no longer like the
only source to have how they can eat uh or
(07:24):
clean themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The pantry door, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And like do stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
So like what is that process like, because lace, I'll
be I'll be honest, like I'm listening to you. I'm like, yes,
it's got to be so hard like there and there's
no right, like like the obvious thing that's true is
like you're gonna be great at this, Like you're gonna
rock this, like you're this is all good and you
gotta army behind you. The other side of that is
(07:50):
like this is gonna be really hard, Like this is
really hard. This is probably like a shocking, confusing season.
But I say all that to say, also, like what
is it like actually as the like as your child
progresses and that like bond and relationship builds.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's really gradual the way that it progresses. Like you'll
just be sitting there one day and then you're like,
it's so weird that you are asking for something specific
and like and you can sort of open the pantry
door and all that. It's just like how did we
get here?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
It hasn't even been two years, Like how what?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So that's mind boggling. But for me, the bond just
grows every day. You feel so much more than every day.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, And the boys are obsessed with their moms, as
everybody kind of tells you when you're pregnant, and then
you believe it when they start because like six six
months ash, you're like, oh okay, like it's a mom.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think it's weird too, because with the co parenting
right now, it's like, yeah, I'm realizing truly something I'm
I was always aware of a control freak, but now
that I have him, I'm fully aware that, Like I'm
a full blown control freak. And it's just like, even
when you know he's holding him or he has his
time with him, I'm just like being selfish. I'm like
I hate that time away from him. Yeah, you know,
(09:12):
it's like it's gonna be really hard. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
How do you guys plan?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Like, I mean, I'm sure you've had these conversations like
how is this gonna look or kind of what's your ideal.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
In the midst of it. Honestly, we're trying to figure
that out. We're both unfortunately moving out of this beautiful house,
but we're gonna live separately and just try and be
a team.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Awkwardly, so you guys were living together and now and
now you're not going to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Now we got the whole dream setup before he was
born and got an his house and nook and nursery
and everything, and then it isn't working. So I'm currently looking.
On top of doing all this, I have to find
a place to live as well. So, gee, where your
parents live? And they live in Missouri?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Did you ever moved back to Missouri?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I'm from here, but they just moved out there because
they like, oh no, I would never move to Missouri.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, I'm not We're not laughing at Missouri.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
I'm just I am.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Can you give us a little bit of your birth
story since like I'm and I love that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I know, I love birth stories. And I'm like,
that's fascinating because Nowaday went through it. So I was,
I was on my d date and yeah, I did
this yoga thing I saw on online and she's like,
I went into labor after I did it, and sure,
I did it all day long and I'm like, okay,
(10:52):
all right, this hurts. And then the next. I couldn't
sleep that night. I was in so much pain, and
so I called the doctors and standing with your leaking
and stuff, I think you should come in just so
we don't risk it. So I come in at eight
am and we're there all day long and I'm at
four centimeters but it's not moving the rest of the day.
So then they have me on potosin for like ten hours.
(11:14):
We go pretty high. They're like, okay, at eleven pm,
I think we need to break your water or nothing's
going to happen.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
When you were on the potosin, did you were you contracting?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, I was having great contractions, but I was having
zero pain and just zero, like.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You're having zero pain while having the contractions. Did you
have the epidural at that point? No, No, it's I
was on eighteen. That's what I didn't understand about your message.
When you DM me, I was like, wait a second
telling me that you had the epidural, but before I
didn't interacting and not in any point what you never
had it?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Holy on? No I did. No, No, you did eventually
on potosin, and it was weird. I just I did
not feel anything. I mean, I was just like, your
contractions are great, and so I wasn't dilated anymore. So
then finally they broke my water and instantly I felt
the contractions and oh my god, I never want to
feel that pain again, Ashley.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
That was can I pause you there? So contractions hurt?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
God?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Is the contractions that hurt.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
It's the contractions that hurt. I just date.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You don't even feel.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But pushing, that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
The pushing's not the problem. It's the contraction.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah. I didn't know this either, and I was in
shock because as soon as they broke it, I couldn't
even breathe. So I got like thirty minutes of that,
and the anesthesiologist came, yes, see same here. It was
about thirty minutes every minute to tell. And then I
didn't like that either, because your legs are just like tingling,
(12:44):
and you're just you're again control freak. You can't do anything.
And I'm just miserable because my legs are tingling. But
they woke me up at two am and they're like, hey,
you're ten centimeters plus. You need to get this baby out.
His head's right there. I was like, sweet, sounds like
an amazing first story coached in under an hour and
it was great.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So great, okay, wonderful. I'm glad that you had it
as as breezy as possible.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It was nice. Yeah, it was hell just sitting there
waiting in the room though for ten hours.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, what do you watch?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Really, nothing worth mentioning.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I'm writing this down because I thought it was the
pushing that hurt.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think a lot of people think that actually, because
I did really so scared to push. That was what
I was so scared.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Of, Ashley, What are you talking about? Why do you
act surprise?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm sorry, I don't know, Like I'm like this like
a file.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Like the idea that you're your body is going to
expand to a level that a head can move out
to me, sounds like.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So the contracted painful. How it's getting to that point?
So like every time that's like your muscle making the
movement to like expand.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, And it is the worst pain I've ever felt.
You know what else, though, is after pushing, like now
it hurts really bad?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Like yeah, yeah, the after pain. Also, I don't think
it's talked a bad enough.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It doesn't hurt when you're lying down or sitting down
to me. It didn't. No, it's just only when your
whole body is upright and then like the pressure drops.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I mean, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm good changing two diapers here.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I can't wait for Ben to tell his birth story
with you know, like it's gonna be so funny to
hear Ben's reaction.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
It's gonna be well.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I mean, I hope I'm awake for it. I feel
like I feel like I might just be on the floor.
There's a good possibility I don't make it through it.
That's okay, Lace, I okay, I'll preface this. You're obviously
very social. You have a great friend group here in Denver.
We do share common connections. You've always been somebody out
(14:56):
and about. As you said, you had your dream job.
I'm sure there's a lot of things they are building up.
But you are entering into a whole new chapter, a
beautiful chapter one that uh it is. You know, a
lot of your friends are probably already in uh or
entering into at some point here soon, so it's not
like you're you know, alone in this. But what about
(15:19):
this next chapter excites you? What are you looking forward
to the most.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
This is a great question because I don't know. I see,
I feel really motivated, like I have a great job.
I'm you know, having fun with Instagram with him and
just all the fun stuff that comes with it. I
think it's like the new challenge of like can I
do this? And I just think it's going to be
I'm going to give him the world obviously the best
(15:45):
I can. But you know, he has a good I
have a support team, which means he does. But I'm
just excited to have this bond with him and see
him grow and see how I can grow in the
midst of this. I just think good things are coming.
I really do.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh, you can do this. Yeah, there's no question in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That I don't know. I'm excited for this next chapter
to just see what's possible. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you have so many qualities that just make you
a great mom. Thanks very nurturing, You're very supportive, you
are like I think the fact that you are so
like open about things just makes me feel like, you know,
that's just a quality of like a really great mom too. Like,
I don't think that you're ever going to have a
(16:29):
hard time having a discussion with him.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
No, I'm excited to have some talks with it. Yeah,
I want to be the biggest gentleman ever.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
He looks like it right now. What a stud lace.
My final question for you is, obviously it's only been
five days, but I'm always curious about this. How has
your world changed in five days?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Like I didn't realize it. Like people are serious when
they say it's around the clock. I can't even go
pee sometimes, Like I'm grateful for my mom being here,
but if she wasn't, I don't know how anything would
get done.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
This is you're going to go through this for a
few months, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And I'm just like, I didn't really And then now
day five, day four, day five, I've changed a diaper
like every hour, and I'm just like, I really going
through And He's just like, five minutes ago, we're doing
it again, and it's just I don't know, you only
have one hand.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The poop calms down after about two months. It's a
lot less type changing. I promise I remember too. I
was like, how is it? Every time we look in there,
there's something that sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think something that's not talked about a lot though,
is when I'm coming to find out. What'd you say?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I said, that sounds amazing. Think about if that's just
how gracious.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And I think something that's not talked about though, is
just like the breastfeeding aspect and how bad and it hurts,
and like how much time consuming that is as well.
But the recovery, the recovery downstairs and the breastfeeding just
I don't think it's talked about enough. Because I was
expecting it and he was having really plusy night a
couple of nights ago, and I just laid there and
cried with him because I was like, what am I doing?
(18:17):
Like this is so hard.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, that's why I didn't bother breastfeeding one of the.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You know, I see why. I know.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh we can have a total honesty. How I love
that my And then one last comment, I just have
to relate with you. It's like I remember when we
got back to Rhode Island because I gave birth in
Virginia and it was like three and a half weeks.
We stayed down there until we drove back and Jared
went to work and I was home alone for the
first time with him. Oh boy, just you and me,
(18:48):
So like what do I do when I have to
go make myself something to eat? What do I do
when I have to go to the bathroom? And it's
just like, I guess you're like, do you come with
me and you sit on your lounger in the bathroom
floor for thirty seconds?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I did that once.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And then when he's like a little bit bigger, you know,
like you know, five days is too small, but like
in a couple of weeks, you can put him in
the chess carrier and that is when you discover your
life again. That I was able to do like everything
with him and my chess carrier because at about like
one month, they're still sleeping so much throughout the day.
(19:29):
But at least that way, you like HAVEM on you
and you're able to go about that's a little tit
for you.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
All right, to close up here, lace, I lied, I
do have a more question. You're only five days into this,
so it might be a little early.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Do you ever see yourself going on television again?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No, okay, deal, that's all I needed.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
No, No, I don't I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
No hesitation there, right, that was like a solid no.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, it was just like thinking like probably not with
the child, No.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Oka, that's fair, Lace, we wish the best.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
In fact, I'm sure you've gotten a ridiculous amount of
stuff sent to you. But The Almost Famous Podcast would
love to send you whatever it is on your wish
list now that you have started to operate in this
world and say, hey, you know what would be really
nice a.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Robot that could do all these things with me.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Just let us know we want to send you something,
so we'll uh yeah, we'll have one of the we'll
reach out to you. But wishing the best. Congratulations. Seriously,
this is a big deal, a beautiful baby. You're gonna
be a great mom, You're gonna do this thing just
really well. And uh, I also just feel like we
(20:41):
I want to say, like I wish you the best
with this situation and co parenting. That is a unique
challenge and journey that I'm hoping works out to be good.
Uh you know whatever good means there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, and I did to that And if you need
anything mom advice, I love talking about it. Okay, Well
I'm here for you.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You do, Ashley, you like talking about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You think he's being sarcastic.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Hey, this has been the Almost Famous podcast. We promise
you'd interview with Lace again five days after the birth
of her son Liam, and well, we gave it to you.
We keep our commitments here. So until next time, I've
been Ben, I've.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Been, Ashley and Lacey, you've been what perfect? Bye?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of the Almost podcast.
They were going a little bit in depth with Lace Morris.
We're so excited. She's a new mom, a new mom
of five days. I can't believe we're getting her to
join us now. It's so exciting. Thank you. And also,
you know you guys, if you don't, if you don't
know the name Lace Morris, I'm sure you actually do
(00:29):
because she was a huge star on Ben season, and
she was a huge star and Bachelor in Paradise. We
were there for two seasons together. And Lace, welcome to
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Wait, so you've been on Paradise? How many times? Lace?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Twice?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I was.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
She was with me when Jared and I came back
for a little.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Bit, Case, I was like, how many times? Again?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Lace, We've promised our listeners now for the last week
that we're gonna have you on.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
They're very excited because we did break down the headline that.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
You are a new mother five days ago.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Five days you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Had had to like not stop.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well I get that. I get it because when I
would just had Dawson they had me come on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Or even when they had me, they forced forced me
to come back.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And I was like sitting around like a week or
so later, and I was like, well, I mean I
could do a podcast, like I can get in the
room and like talk on a mic and sit down,
you know when he's napping, like somebody else can hold
him for an hour. So I feel I feel you
(01:46):
on that. But there's a lot of things that I
also could not do at this point, like stand up.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Stand up, Ashley, I've ever done it, and you think
you think so. We have a lot of stairs in
this house, so that doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you've been going up and down the stairs a lot.
I mean, as I did, you know, you gotta go
to bed, you gotta do so I gotta go shower.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, but no, I mean I'm live from the bed.
So we're good.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Okay, So lace catches up a little bit here. You're
living where right now?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm in Denver.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
You're in Denver, Colorado. Yeah, you're out here in Denver.
You are said you're super busy. So what exactly have
you been doing in the last five days that you
feel like you have overdone it, Like, how are you
kind of what is your time being used for right
now other than hey, doing exactly what you're doing right now,
(02:41):
old beautiful baby.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, I mean my parents were here. My mom's still here,
but my dad left, so it's been really helpful having them. Yeah,
but you still got to like get up and get food,
and you gotta change his diaper, and you gotta feed him.
And my dad was here, so I come up to
the nursery to feed him, and you know, just for
(03:03):
some privacy, and then I did get ready a couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You got makeup on. Now you look fantastic. Thanks, you
look your hair's done. You look so amazing ready though, yes,
I remember the getting up to change diapers was like,
I that's not making me get off the couch, Like
I can't do it, like Jared to the majority of
diapers for the first few weeks, because it just hurt.
(03:28):
It really did, it really does. Okay, Well, Lace, you're
an open book. Can you talk to us about just
finding out you were pregnant and all in the beginning
of all.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
This, Yeah, it was a whirlwind because I had just
gotten a new job, like a dream job where I'm
the marketing manager for the Ritz Carlton, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is huge. You know, just got
a new boyfriend. We were brand new and yeah, we
basically hooked up the first week and made a.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Baby the first week of knowing him.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, and I wasn't very smart about it and found
out four weeks later I was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So I mean, was this like, what was your initial reaction?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I was. I couldn't really believe it because I'm like me,
I'm pregnant, Like no, there's no way, Like, yeah, I'm
not that I've ever tried, but I just didn't think
it was possible. So I thought I was tracking properly,
but I guess it wasn't. And I was just kind
of in shock, like pure shock. I don't know if
I could do it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What was the conversation with him?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Like I was scared, but he was really cool about it,
and we just sat on it for a couple of
days and was like, what's the best option. Both both
of us were like, we gotta do it. We gotta
keep him.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And what's your relationship? What was your relationship like throughout
the nine months of pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's been a roller coaster. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Is he local to Denver?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
He's not. He's from Wyoming, but he lives here now,
a job here.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, So just tell us if you feel comfortable talking
or not talking about this. But I'm assuming he was
he present at the birth.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, he was there at the birth. He was present,
and he did great. Unfortunately, it was just not a
very fun eight months and you know, you don't really
know someone, so we had a rough time. We're still
trying to navigate, you know, how to coparent and do everything.
Excuse you?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Is he somebody who wants to be like involved or.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yes, he wants to be in Liam's life. And he's
already a dad. He's already a good dad. But he
he's trying to be as present as he can. So
let's get as long as he is a dad, We're good.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Do you feel like you have enough of a village
around you right now?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I have an army behind me, so I honestly am
so grateful.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
What's the I really want to get into two. I
mean the emotions now that you're holding Liam, like you're
sitting here and you're a mom five days again, which
is just wild that you're here with us, and then
I can see a little bit of Liam's you know face,
absolutely beautiful, Like what does this feel like?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's so weird? I mean you know this actually, but
like it doesn't feel real. Sometimes you're just trying to
are you really mine? Am I really about to take
care of you the rest of my life?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know I had a moment like that a couple
of days ago. I was like, you're half me, Like
I'm hanging out with you, You're half of me.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I've been. It's been a really big emotional rollercoaster
with the emotions so high, obviously for a swoman, but
it's it's it's really hard, Like it's so amazing looking
at him, and I'm like, wow, this is so cool.
But then you're like I don't get my family. I
don't get that perfect picture that I thought I had
(06:52):
right in front of me. But so it's just every
day is different and some days are harder than others.
But when you look at him, you're just like so happy.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah. I mean, Ashley, you could probably speak to this,
but like, what is it like as a mother as
your son gets older? And it does you know, you
do take care of and you do care for but
you like you no longer have to hold him all
the time every day, Like you're no longer like the
only source to have how they can eat uh or
(07:24):
clean themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The pantry door, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And like do stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
So like what is that process like, because lace, I'll
be I'll be honest, like I'm listening to you. I'm like, yes,
it's got to be so hard like there and there's
no right, like like the obvious thing that's true is
like you're gonna be great at this, Like you're gonna
rock this, like you're this is all good and you
gotta army behind you. The other side of that is
(07:50):
like this is gonna be really hard, Like this is
really hard. This is probably like a shocking, confusing season.
But I say all that to say, also, like what
is it like actually as the like as your child
progresses and that like bond and relationship builds.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's really gradual the way that it progresses. Like you'll
just be sitting there one day and then you're like,
it's so weird that you are asking for something specific
and like and you can sort of open the pantry
door and all that. It's just like how did we
get here?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
It hasn't even been two years, Like how what?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So that's mind boggling. But for me, the bond just
grows every day. You feel so much more than every day.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, And the boys are obsessed with their moms, as
everybody kind of tells you when you're pregnant, and then
you believe it when they start because like six six
months ash, you're like, oh okay, like it's a mom.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think it's weird too, because with the co parenting
right now, it's like, yeah, I'm realizing truly something I'm
I was always aware of a control freak, but now
that I have him, I'm fully aware that, Like I'm
a full blown control freak. And it's just like, even
when you know he's holding him or he has his
time with him, I'm just like being selfish. I'm like
I hate that time away from him. Yeah, you know,
(09:12):
it's like it's gonna be really hard. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
How do you guys plan?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Like, I mean, I'm sure you've had these conversations like
how is this gonna look or kind of what's your ideal.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
In the midst of it. Honestly, we're trying to figure
that out. We're both unfortunately moving out of this beautiful house,
but we're gonna live separately and just try and be
a team.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Awkwardly, so you guys were living together and now and
now you're not going to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Now we got the whole dream setup before he was
born and got an his house and nook and nursery
and everything, and then it isn't working. So I'm currently looking.
On top of doing all this, I have to find
a place to live as well. So, gee, where your
parents live? And they live in Missouri?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Did you ever moved back to Missouri?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I'm from here, but they just moved out there because
they like, oh no, I would never move to Missouri.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, I'm not We're not laughing at Missouri.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
I'm just I am.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Can you give us a little bit of your birth
story since like I'm and I love that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I know, I love birth stories. And I'm like,
that's fascinating because Nowaday went through it. So I was,
I was on my d date and yeah, I did
this yoga thing I saw on online and she's like,
I went into labor after I did it, and sure,
I did it all day long and I'm like, okay,
(10:52):
all right, this hurts. And then the next. I couldn't
sleep that night. I was in so much pain, and
so I called the doctors and standing with your leaking
and stuff, I think you should come in just so
we don't risk it. So I come in at eight
am and we're there all day long and I'm at
four centimeters but it's not moving the rest of the day.
So then they have me on potosin for like ten hours.
(11:14):
We go pretty high. They're like, okay, at eleven pm,
I think we need to break your water or nothing's
going to happen.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
When you were on the potosin, did you were you contracting?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, I was having great contractions, but I was having
zero pain and just zero, like.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You're having zero pain while having the contractions. Did you
have the epidural at that point? No, No, it's I
was on eighteen. That's what I didn't understand about your message.
When you DM me, I was like, wait a second
telling me that you had the epidural, but before I
didn't interacting and not in any point what you never
had it?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Holy on? No I did. No, No, you did eventually
on potosin, and it was weird. I just I did
not feel anything. I mean, I was just like, your
contractions are great, and so I wasn't dilated anymore. So
then finally they broke my water and instantly I felt
the contractions and oh my god, I never want to
feel that pain again, Ashley.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
That was can I pause you there? So contractions hurt?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
God?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Is the contractions that hurt.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
It's the contractions that hurt. I just date.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You don't even feel.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But pushing, that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
The pushing's not the problem. It's the contraction.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah. I didn't know this either, and I was in
shock because as soon as they broke it, I couldn't
even breathe. So I got like thirty minutes of that,
and the anesthesiologist came, yes, see same here. It was
about thirty minutes every minute to tell. And then I
didn't like that either, because your legs are just like tingling,
(12:44):
and you're just you're again control freak. You can't do anything.
And I'm just miserable because my legs are tingling. But
they woke me up at two am and they're like, hey,
you're ten centimeters plus. You need to get this baby out.
His head's right there. I was like, sweet, sounds like
an amazing first story coached in under an hour and
it was great.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So great, okay, wonderful. I'm glad that you had it
as as breezy as possible.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It was nice. Yeah, it was hell just sitting there
waiting in the room though for ten hours.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, what do you watch?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Really, nothing worth mentioning.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I'm writing this down because I thought it was the
pushing that hurt.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think a lot of people think that actually, because
I did really so scared to push. That was what
I was so scared.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Of, Ashley, What are you talking about? Why do you
act surprise?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm sorry, I don't know, Like I'm like this like
a file.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Like the idea that you're your body is going to
expand to a level that a head can move out
to me, sounds like.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So the contracted painful. How it's getting to that point?
So like every time that's like your muscle making the
movement to like expand.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, And it is the worst pain I've ever felt.
You know what else, though, is after pushing, like now
it hurts really bad?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Like yeah, yeah, the after pain. Also, I don't think
it's talked a bad enough.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It doesn't hurt when you're lying down or sitting down
to me. It didn't. No, it's just only when your
whole body is upright and then like the pressure drops.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I mean, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm good changing two diapers here.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I can't wait for Ben to tell his birth story
with you know, like it's gonna be so funny to
hear Ben's reaction.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
It's gonna be well.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I mean, I hope I'm awake for it. I feel
like I feel like I might just be on the floor.
There's a good possibility I don't make it through it.
That's okay, Lace, I okay, I'll preface this. You're obviously
very social. You have a great friend group here in Denver.
We do share common connections. You've always been somebody out
(14:56):
and about. As you said, you had your dream job.
I'm sure there's a lot of things they are building up.
But you are entering into a whole new chapter, a
beautiful chapter one that uh it is. You know, a
lot of your friends are probably already in uh or
entering into at some point here soon, so it's not
like you're you know, alone in this. But what about
(15:19):
this next chapter excites you? What are you looking forward
to the most.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
This is a great question because I don't know. I see,
I feel really motivated, like I have a great job.
I'm you know, having fun with Instagram with him and
just all the fun stuff that comes with it. I
think it's like the new challenge of like can I
do this? And I just think it's going to be
I'm going to give him the world obviously the best
(15:45):
I can. But you know, he has a good I
have a support team, which means he does. But I'm
just excited to have this bond with him and see
him grow and see how I can grow in the
midst of this. I just think good things are coming.
I really do.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh, you can do this. Yeah, there's no question in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That I don't know. I'm excited for this next chapter
to just see what's possible. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you have so many qualities that just make you
a great mom. Thanks very nurturing, You're very supportive, you
are like I think the fact that you are so
like open about things just makes me feel like, you know,
that's just a quality of like a really great mom too. Like,
I don't think that you're ever going to have a
(16:29):
hard time having a discussion with him.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
No, I'm excited to have some talks with it. Yeah,
I want to be the biggest gentleman ever.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
He looks like it right now. What a stud lace.
My final question for you is, obviously it's only been
five days, but I'm always curious about this. How has
your world changed in five days?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Like I didn't realize it. Like people are serious when
they say it's around the clock. I can't even go
pee sometimes, Like I'm grateful for my mom being here,
but if she wasn't, I don't know how anything would
get done.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
This is you're going to go through this for a
few months, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And I'm just like, I didn't really And then now
day five, day four, day five, I've changed a diaper
like every hour, and I'm just like, I really going
through And He's just like, five minutes ago, we're doing
it again, and it's just I don't know, you only
have one hand.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The poop calms down after about two months. It's a
lot less type changing. I promise I remember too. I
was like, how is it? Every time we look in there,
there's something that sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think something that's not talked about a lot though,
is when I'm coming to find out. What'd you say?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I said, that sounds amazing. Think about if that's just
how gracious.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And I think something that's not talked about though, is
just like the breastfeeding aspect and how bad and it hurts,
and like how much time consuming that is as well.
But the recovery, the recovery downstairs and the breastfeeding just
I don't think it's talked about enough. Because I was
expecting it and he was having really plusy night a
couple of nights ago, and I just laid there and
cried with him because I was like, what am I doing?
(18:17):
Like this is so hard.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, that's why I didn't bother breastfeeding one of the.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You know, I see why. I know.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh we can have a total honesty. How I love
that my And then one last comment, I just have
to relate with you. It's like I remember when we
got back to Rhode Island because I gave birth in
Virginia and it was like three and a half weeks.
We stayed down there until we drove back and Jared
went to work and I was home alone for the
first time with him. Oh boy, just you and me,
(18:48):
So like what do I do when I have to
go make myself something to eat? What do I do
when I have to go to the bathroom? And it's
just like, I guess you're like, do you come with
me and you sit on your lounger in the bathroom
floor for thirty seconds?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I did that once.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And then when he's like a little bit bigger, you know,
like you know, five days is too small, but like
in a couple of weeks, you can put him in
the chess carrier and that is when you discover your
life again. That I was able to do like everything
with him and my chess carrier because at about like
one month, they're still sleeping so much throughout the day.
(19:29):
But at least that way, you like HAVEM on you
and you're able to go about that's a little tit
for you.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
All right, to close up here, lace, I lied, I
do have a more question. You're only five days into this,
so it might be a little early.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Do you ever see yourself going on television again?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No, okay, deal, that's all I needed.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
No, No, I don't I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
No hesitation there, right, that was like a solid no.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, it was just like thinking like probably not with
the child, No.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Oka, that's fair, Lace, we wish the best.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
In fact, I'm sure you've gotten a ridiculous amount of
stuff sent to you. But The Almost Famous Podcast would
love to send you whatever it is on your wish
list now that you have started to operate in this
world and say, hey, you know what would be really
nice a.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Robot that could do all these things with me.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Just let us know we want to send you something,
so we'll uh yeah, we'll have one of the we'll
reach out to you. But wishing the best. Congratulations. Seriously,
this is a big deal, a beautiful baby. You're gonna
be a great mom, You're gonna do this thing just
really well. And uh, I also just feel like we
(20:41):
I want to say, like I wish you the best
with this situation and co parenting. That is a unique
challenge and journey that I'm hoping works out to be good.
Uh you know whatever good means there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, and I did to that And if you need
anything mom advice, I love talking about it. Okay, Well
I'm here for you.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You do, Ashley, you like talking about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You think he's being sarcastic.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Hey, this has been the Almost Famous podcast. We promise
you'd interview with Lace again five days after the birth
of her son Liam, and well, we gave it to you.
We keep our commitments here. So until next time, I've
been Ben, I've.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Been, Ashley and Lacey, you've been what perfect? Bye?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
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