September 19, 2023 • 36 mins
Ben and Ashley are getting ready to head to Dean and Caelynn’s wedding but they have mixed feelings about the remote location.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey everyone, we're back the two of us the almost
in this podcast, which is great. So we wanted to
talk about Ben's trip to Italy. You went with Jess
and then both sets of parents, which is really nice.
Is that the first trip you guys went on with
both sets of parents, like, you know, a vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Vacation.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
No, we've done Christmas now together two years in eg
Oh yeah, duh. So I mean, first off, it's good
to be back. It's nice to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Thanks, We're so happy. We're happy to have you.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah. You you were busy when I was.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I was, we had quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You're pumping out some great episodes. Make sure you go
back and listen to those. But I am. I am
happy to come back and hang out with you and
be with the team. So we've done Christmas together a
few years in a row. We do it because.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Because your in laws get along so well, isn't it
nice to have that. My parents take along really well
with Jarry's parents, it is.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
And I'm an only child, so that's a good piece, right,
So you know, I think for me, there is obviously
the desire, the want to spend holidays with my family. However,
you know we aren't going to be able to do
that forever where we go on vacation for a holiday
because kids will come into play, and you know, Justic's
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parents are about to become grandparents here in about I
don't know, a week, and so we wanted to take
advantage of the time that we had. Italy was for
a few things. One, my mom just turned sixty, her
dad just as dad just turned sixty, Her mom is Italian,
has never been to Italy, and my dad is retiring soon.
(01:40):
And so this was kind of a last year when
Jess and I are like, there's so many big things
happening in our family's lives. What could we do with
them to like celebrate it and to make a memory together?
And so Italy was the obvious choice because it's Italy.
And so we went to Rome, we went to Florence,
we went to Pompeii, and then we went down to
(02:03):
the Amalfi Coast and spent five days in the Malfy
coast doing like a lemon tour with an incredible company.
If anybody wants any lemon tour recommendations, it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Is awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've been all those places. I've been to Italy three
times now, just crazy. I know, well, once for a wedding,
once for our honeymoon, and then once we did a
Mediterranean cruise with my family, so.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
We like hit all those little spots. So all those
little spots, you know, like realm. So of all the places,
where did you think was the best food.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I think the best food that we had had to
be in like on the Malfy Coast.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Oh really, okay, So are you a seafood guy.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Well, I'm allergic to shellfish.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh that's right, but I like, I mean, I'm obviously
a huge fish fan. I just can't have the you know,
shrimp and lobsters and clams. I think Rome everybody when
I was going to Italy kind of said, hey, Rome
a big city. Like it's just a big city. It's
gonna be hectic, you know, there's things to do, but
it's it's just a big city. I loved Rome. I
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personally found Rome to be very exciting. Around every corner
there's history. There's obviously so much of our kind of
Western civilization was kind of like built there, like the
foundation of it, and then you know, obviously as somebody
who is a Christian, like, there's so much biblical history
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in Rome with you know, Paul and Peter and then
obviously the Roman Empire. So for me, I was just
kind of infatuated the whole time with Rome. We had
great food in Rome. We went to some restaurants there
in Rome, and a little neighborhood. I'm gonna say it wrong,
Jessico would say it right, but it's called Traverse. I
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think it was the name of it, and it was.
It was full of good food and good drink. Here's
what I'm gonna do, Ashley. I'm gonna upload. I have
the whole because I planned this trip for my face.
It's kind of like something I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's so cool. I love that.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I'm going to upload kind of our agenda I haven't
written down and so everybody can see and if they're
going to Italy soon. I got a lot of messages
on social media that people are like, hey, I'm going
to Italy next.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Year or next week or whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I'll just upload it and if people want to kind
of follow it and know where we ate and where
we stayed. We stayed in a Mafi Coast at in
a little town called Maori. It's way down south. We
did it because it's less expensive and it has a
port so we could get around them offy coast by boat.
And I would recommend staying in a little town called Minori,
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which is right next to it, less expensive, doesn't have
the hustle and bustle of other places, has amazing food,
very local.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So I'll just upload it if people want to follow it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Cool, it's a great idea. I agree. I mean I
liked I even like Roam's food the most.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was obsessed with just the architecture there and just
walk around the little alleys. I can just do that
all day and just be in awe of It's like
what every building looks like is just gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I have a little bone to pick with the US
coming back from Rome.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, why don't we put effort into our buildings the
way that they put effort in.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So I live obviously in Denver. Here's like my opinion.
I would love for people to argue with me on it,
just because I think it's It's one I want to
learn more about, and I think I learned more when
people kind of come back with other sides.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know, Rome Italy, Italy in general has buildings that
are thousands of years old. Some of these buildings are
still standing. Some of these buildings have been refurbished and
are being used as amazing like condos and apartments and restaurants.
Well in the US, obviously, I work in the restaurant world,
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and I obviously have a coffee company in coffee shops
in the US.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
All of our licensing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
To get any type of food prep you have to
have cleanable walls and ceilings, which mean you can't have
brick like walls in a kitchen. I get that. There's
issues to that. I get to like there's some sanitation issues. However,
there has to be a good medium because I want
to see our one hundred year old buildings, one hundred
and fifty year old buildings still be used here in
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the US, because there's something special about sitting in the
basement of a like a thousand year old building and
having dinner and breaking bread where people have done it
for like years and years. It's very sacred, it's very special,
and I miss that here. I don't want everything to
be sterile here. I kind of want to have the
I want to have some grease on the walls, I
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guess personally, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I completely agree with that. Do you feel like
this is another thing with America? Like I believe me,
I am. I'm an American girl, and every time I
go abroad, I am so excited, honestly to come back
to America, you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know, just like missed the conveniences and like, you know,
but like it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's great to go there and experience it, and then
it's also great to know that you can come home.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So my big thing is.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Just like it's crazy the way that their food over
there digests so much better. Did you find yourself to
be like able to go walk around and be comfortable
after a huge meal and then the next day your
stomach be like flatter than ever.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
No, I one hundred percent felt this. I also felt
this with the wine. You know, you got a bottle
of wine at dinner every night, and I would have,
you know, two glasses of wine. And if I have
two glasses of wine, like I am a cocktail a
night kind of guy, or at least a cocktail every
couple of nights, just one kind of like it's my thing.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I watch the sunset. But that's about where I can stop.
I don't. I don't overdrink in my life.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Jessica knows this because it I hate the feeling and
I don't like losing control. It's not that's not why
I do it. I've had moments. Obviously you've seen it,
but not it's very rare. I after two glass of wine,
like I felt great, Like I felt like fine, there's
just a yeah, the food and the drink over there
just felt like it digested easier. I think if anybody's
traveling to Italy, you're gonna find that too. You can
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eat a bowl of pasta or a whole pizza to
yourself and get up and be like I feel pretty good,
like I'm rocking and rolling.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, you can just tell that there's like nothing toxic
in the food, and your body knows exactly how to
process it, whereas like at home, you know, we don't
know really what's in it. But like I do think
that there's some sort of guideline or whatnot that like
each restaurant needs to source their all their ingredients from
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a certain radius around them to ensure that it's as
fresh as it can be.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In Italy, you think, mm hmmm, yeah, I think I've
heard of this.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean, you know, remember a few years ago where
the shop local trend became very popular and it was
kind of a big push, uh, not only from like
kind of our generation.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
It was maybe eight years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I still think it's a very popular thing to do,
but the shop local became very popular. I think that's
I think it's a really amazing solution if it's sustainable
because you're getting fresh ingredients, because you're supporting your local farmers.
And I do think you see that, right, you have
produce sitting out like in the kitchen that you can
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just tell has been picked that day. We did that
limon to or like I said, and understood kind of
how the limon industry works, but also the struggles that
Italy is going to have with the lemon industry here
in the next few years because young people aren't entering
into farming and so you know, these small farms are
no longer maybe sustainable for the lifestyle that the younger
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generation in Italy wants to live.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So to go back to Italy.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I don't know if listeners are going to be intrigued
with all the details, but here's the things I said
from our trip that I would recommend what we did.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
I think Pompeii is very much worth it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If anybody tells, yeah, it is, you get a ton
of history. And you know, obviously last year we went
to Israel. The ruins at Pompeii are in the best
shape of any ruins that we've seen through Israel in Italy.
I also think the Amalfi Coast is one hundred percent
worth Going to the Amalfi Coast is definitely the most
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beautiful place I've ever been. It is shockingly pretty. And
here is the question that everybody wants to ask, how
did the trip go? Like, how do to How did
the six of us get along? We got along really good.
I cannot imagine it going better. There is no arguments.
Everybody had enough freedom to do their own thing. But
we had a ton of time together. We agreed on stuff,
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We had a lot of fun together. It was an
amazing trip, one that I know when i'm you know,
it's crazy when you're in these experiences and you're like,
when I'm sixty five years old, I'm gonna look back
and remember this trip, like I'm gonna still talk about
our trip to Italy with both in laws. It's gonna
be something that is a pivotal piece of my life,
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and so it was.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I feel very I don't want to say blessed, because
blessed over. I just feel very fortunate, grateful that we
were able to do that with both sets of parents
and have those memories together. I will say the gelagg
was real. My dad suffered really bad with it, like
really bad getting there. Getting there it was really hard,
and then getting back has kind of been a transition.
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But you know, eight hours is enough to really shake
you up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Last question for you, Yeah, what's your take on lemon Cello?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Love lemon Cello. I cannot say that.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I am not a oh my gosh, I'm craving lemon
Cello type of person. We did, though, find that the
place that we went had Melonchello, had like cream Cello,
had chocolate cello, coo. Well, there's a lot of different
cello's in there. Lemon Cello, though done well, which they
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did do it well, is fantastic, but it's not something
I crave, maybe as much as others crave Wominchello.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, they would always give us a shot of Lemonchello
because we were on our honeymoon. Yeah, and well Jared
would not like could not, And then I was like
not super keen, too sweet, too tart. Sorry, but I
also cannot deny a free drink, so I took them all.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I can't deny it either. Maybe you should have
said we were on our honeymoon, you Okay, craziest story
from the trip outside of all the other things. I
come from a town of forty five hundred people were Sundyana.
You saw it aired on The Bachelor. We are in
may Ori or Minori, Italy, going to dinner one night.
It is right next to our hotel, walking down the
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street and there's my old neighbors from More Sun Diana
walking down the street as well.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Wild as wild as that. Okay, that's the most because
it's warsaw. But I always feel like when you're traveling abroad,
you somehow find one person that you've met before in life,
and it's weird.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
It's very weird.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
It makes you you know, back when you were a
kid and your parents used to say, like, you gotta
behave because you never know how it's going to come
back around. And I always like, yeah, right, Well, it does.
It comes back around. You got to keep your stuff
together as you get older, because your circle gets bigger. Ashley,
I want to transition this conversation again. I will upload
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our itinerary from Italy. I think that could be interesting
to anybody going over there and may be helpful. I'll
give some tips and stuff like that here. In a week,
you and I are going to be together. We're gonna
be together at Dean and Kaylan's wedding. Okay, obviously, we
just had Dean and Kaylan on our podcast and they
gave some details around their wedding and some of the
fun things they've been doing to lead up to their wedding.
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Dean and I play golf this week weekend together.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
They're out here.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We had dinner with them, and they're very excited for
this wedding. I am personally very excited for this wedding.
People are coming to Colorado who have never been to
Colorado or maybe never experienced real Colorado. And this is
obviously a place I live and I love, and I
I want people to see an experience. So Dean and
I are talking on the golf course and Dean is
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very excited for this as I said, but he did
mention to me. He goes, you know, the thing that's
gonna be semi shocking for people is one, this wedding
is not an Aspen. I think all of us have
been saying it's an Aspen. It's not an Aspen. It's
very far from Aspen.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's over gat.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, you're not gonna You're not gonna just jump down
the mountain and go to Aspen. The second piece is
it's a very rustic, very rustic venue where we're staying
at the venue. There's not like hotels around, right, So
these are cabins, not super well insulated.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
They will well, that's good to know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, so Jessica and I will be bringing blankets for
everybody from our house, will drive us.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What do I dress like is go pretty darn cold.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It could be a little chili. Yeah, it could be
a little chilly.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I would definitely prepare for it to be in the fifties,
maybe high forties.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Uh. And then there is And this.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Is where I want to talk to you about it
because I personally find this to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, I think I know what you're gonna say, and
it's gonna freak me out. Are you gonna say there's
no cell service and Wi Fi?
Speaker 5 (15:22):
There's no cell service, but I do believe there's Wi Fi?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Okay, because as a parent, that's not fun, you know
what I mean. It's a whole different thing. Like I
used to love actually going on The Bachelor and them
taking my phone away. I mean like that, yes, human connection,
but now it's like totally not okay to.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I get it. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
So here's what I was laughing with Dean about, You're
gonna have a bunch of people who spend their most
of their time and living, influencing, posting and sharing different things.
There's not really gonna be that availability. Do you think
people are gonna have freakouts? Or do you think most
people are going to really enjoy the disconnection from the
hustle and bustle of the world.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think it comes down to whether you have kids
or not.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Okay, So those that have kids might be a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, Like, and I'm gonna be honest, Jared doesn't do well.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't I wouldn't do well either.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, I don't know, because like he's also has this
other child, which is Audrey's. So it's like she he's
like already stressed that he has to run it from
like being you know, not there present, and then yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Well I do think there's Wi Fi.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
So I think like, overall, you're gonna be able to
make it work when you need to make it work.
But I don't think you're gonna be walking from cabin
to cabin and getting like the ability to text, and
so I do think that will be eliminated. But I
do think he'll be able to FaceTime and call and
do all the things that you can do on Wi Fi.
I don't this isn't like in the middle of absolutely nowhere.
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There is a town.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
There, there is a town. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So Jared also has anxiety, and I understand because I
have like extreme rule anxiety. I'll just always remember when
I went to James Madison University, which is Harrisonburg, Virginia,
which is a very well developed city now with the college.
But if you go like ten miles out, it's just
pure darkness, Like you could be on a country road
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and not see any lights left to right for miles
and that freaks me out. Yeah, and Jared also has
like this anxiety because he just feels like he wants
to be independent, like he wants to be able to
go grab a coffee whenever he wants to, and if
he doesn't have that freedom, that stresses him out. Yeah well,
(17:36):
I see, You'll see he'll mask it well with him,
but I'm sure he'll.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Be freaking out.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, I personally really love this because I love getting
out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
And there's a comfort.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Anti that's the anti Jared. Yeah, he loves his comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So we will be attending this wedding in a few days.
It's going to be a great celebration. There's going to
be more Bachelor Family than I expected to be there.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So excited for Becca and Tanya to be there. I
consider Tanya to be an honorary Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I forget that she wasn't a part of the y.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I know we've always wanted her to be on, but
now we are so excited that our iHeart family member
Tanya rad is engaged to the love of her life, Robbie.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
So good, so good.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So anyways, it's gonna be a wild experience. I can't
wait to share the stories with you. I am so
excited to see you all. I'm very excited to see
everybody including myself, get out of their comfort zones and
into the mountains for a few days to celebrate the
love that Dean and Calen have for each other. It's
gonna be great, and there's no way you get this
many people in one place without some great stories that.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Come out of it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm seriously, like so excited to have like a little
Bachelor Nation reunion. But also, you're right, it'll be nice
to like not have everybody on their phones and we
can actually feel like it's about the reunion, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
It actually talks to people, so yeaheah.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We get to talk to people and I don't feel
like I'm interrupting them every time I look at them
because they're texting and looking down at their phones.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It's going to be great. Anyways. You hate that we
have some Bachelor headlines.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
We do have a busy week of some great interviews
coming up your way. We are getting closer and closer
to the end of our off season. This was our
off season. It's why I was able to go.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To Italy short af It.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Is right, and there's a lot of press coming out
about the Golden Bachelor. I saw yesterday that I don't
think it was official necessarily, but reality Steve did release
who he believes is the contestants on this season.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I have no clue how he.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Found from the contestants on Joey season Joey's season that
will be coming up.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But The Bachelor also did.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
They announced it only on their Facebook page and it
isn't unofficial list. There is a friend of mine on
the Facebook list, but like, we can't really go above
and beyond and get excited because it's all kind of
like a teaser. So what happened was with Clayton season,
they did the same sort of release, but there were
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like three girls from the Facebook list that didn't make
the cut, so it's very much an unofficial cast list.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Well, it's getting closer. Let's dive into headlines because there
are a few. Here's the first. Hannah Godwin reveals her
favorite honeymoon memory and why her wedding was in Paris.
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We had this question, now it's being answered.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Mm hmm, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So the best part of their honeymoon, she said, was
having deep belly laughs about so many things, and about
and them being in their own little world.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
She said. Obviously the food location.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Just relaxing was really nice, but our favorite memories are
definitely the laughs that they had. And she even has
a little notes, you know, in her notes app she
put some of the things that they cracked up over,
which I love that idea. It's because you know, how
many times do you say, like, what was that thing
that we just cracked up over? And you remember the laugh,
but you don't remember what the heck you were laughing over.
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So she documented it so they can go back and
look at it. She also said that they decided on
Paris because when they were like first out and able
to do anything as a couple after Bachelor and Paradise,
they went to France.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was really meaningful to them. They loved it so much.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But they didn't decide on having it there until actually
New Year's Eve this past year. So if you guys
have ever planned a wedding out there, you know that
deciding on a location seven months out is actually quite
difficult because the venues have all been sucked up. She goes,
that's she goes, that is why we had a Wednesday wedding.
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So she goes, we highly recommend it.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, if you're traveling to Paris, it doesn't
really matter what day you're exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You're already making a week out of it.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, you're making a week.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Next headline is this Katie Thurston, who we obviously announced
is going to be on f Boy Island, a creation
of somebody who used to be an executive producer on
The Bachelor along Gail. But Katie Thurston embraces the humor
on f Boy Island season three.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So she says that her experience on f Boy Island,
which does not premiere until Sober sixteenth at eight o'clock
on the CW, she says it's like the total opposite
of what she had gone through before. So she had
never watched the show before being asked to do it,
so she binge watched it, and she said she was
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truly laughing out loud watching Binge watching season two.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
She said she was.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Pleasantly surprised by how feminist it was. She said she
liked how it was satirical and comedy focused, and so
once she saw it, she was like, what, well, yeah,
why not? This sounds like it's going to be a
really fun time for me. So, if you guys haven't
watched Foy Island, Kitty does explain it quite well.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
She goes, an f boy.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is someone who makes decisions in her opinion selfishly. You know,
where they're not taking into consideration the person that it
could impact. They're doing it for their own gain, pleasure, reward,
whatever that is. Whereas these nice guys are going to
look at the bigger picture and assess their actions because
of that take you into consideration in terms of how
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it's going to make you feel. They should be honest
and how they're always thinking about how decision impacts everybody else.
She just said that like being on the show was
the antithesis of the Bachelor in tone, because everything is
kind of like you can have humor with it. It's lighthearted,
nobody's necessarily looking for their soulmate. On f Boy Island,
(23:52):
she said that she was able to have conversations like
full uninterrupted conversations where nobody was like, okay, okay, guys,
let's get more serious, let's talk about marriage, and like
if you guys both want to be parents one day,
she said she was able to just like have straight,
uninterrupted conversations and it was just a more comedy based
She also liked the fact that there was like a
sisterhood element because she was alongside to other women the
(24:17):
entire time, and she was like, worst case scenario, if
I don't live with money, I have some new sisters.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And Nicki Glazer is obviously the host of this and
probably brings a massive amount of humor to the show,
and it's going to be you know, it's an intriguing watch,
I think, and it's an interesting concept. It's great to
hear Katie be so positive about a reality television experience.
That's not something we're used to, right, I mean, yeah,
she obviously had a really great experience, and she trusted
(24:46):
the team because I don't think she had any interest
in during reality television necessarily again, after her time, I
don't think she loved her time as the Bachelor, at
least from what she has said. So she obviously trusted
the team and went on and then came ou off
of it. And it's like, hey, this is really great.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, so good for love.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, this is a big one one that we've kind
of been speculating for a bit, just didn't have the answers,
but today we do. Michael a has officially confirmed his
breakup with Daniel Mulby. This one hurts deeply, actually, very deeply.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's very sad, yes, very assumed. We pull it up
and read it directly, which it was about time to
be honest, because like, what are you to do just
like fade your relationship into obscurity with the fans that
have followed it from the very beginning? Like you know,
you know, you start a relationship on TV, you kind
of have to if you're if it's going to end,
you kind of have to discuss it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Do you agree with me on that?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I do?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I mean I think I think at some point you
just have to confirm that it's no longer a relationship
because if not, then, I mean I think everybody is
probably in your comments and in your messages making exceptions
and then what happens when you get seen on a
date with somebody else?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, it lingers longer than it needs to. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
So he actually said it on Jason Tartic's podcast. The
episode was released today September eighteenth. He says, it's not
what we plan.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
We both threw a lot into this relationship, and it's
awful when it doesn't work out. You mourn the loss
of not just that person and friend in your life,
but also the future that you had envision. That's so true.
A lot of it is like the death of the
dreams of the relationship that hurt the most, in my opinion,
he said, And it's to no fault of hers. She
(26:36):
poured everything into this. We're still, you know, working through
some things and trying to stay close, but the last
few months have been really rough. He's ended the conversation
by saying that starting over again is always frightening. I
know that time will heal, because I've felt that before,
but it doesn't make this anything any less difficult. And
(26:58):
he just said, yeah, yeah, that's basically all he said
on Jason's podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
But we'll have to listen to that too.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
This is an interesting headline for me. I obviously know
people still working on Paradise, working within Paradise. I don't
know what he's talking.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
About me neither. Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Feel like I'm pretty I don't know any of the
spoilers for Paradise.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I just refuse.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But I do always like to hear about the kind
of the some of the characters. I like to hear
about some of the like the vibe of Paradise and
kind of how it plays out. That's kind of where
I liked it, because Paradise intrigues me. I've never been,
so it's kind of like this mystery place. But this
is the headline. Jesse Palmer promises unique twist for Bachelor
(27:55):
in Paradise season nine. This according to Yahoo. I don't
know what this twist is. I have no idea what
he said.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I know, Okay, So here's the quote.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
There's going to be something really special and unique about
this season, something to celebrate. I think all Bachelor Nation
is going to be really really excited about it. Everyone
on the beach will be too. I really cannot wait
to see what happens and where this goes. Now, before
I continue, I just want to say that, like, this
sounds different than last year's twist, which was separating the
cast and adding more in while the girls.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Were Nobody liked that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So Jesse says that everybody's going to be excited about it. However,
Wells does not share this sentiment. He says, I imagine.
Wells says, I imagine that there will be things that
people are not expecting to happen, and they're probably going
to be.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Very angry about it.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
He says, I'll be fine because I'll be making drinks
and just watching the dumpster fire happen in front of me.
So I was so interested about this headline that I
texted Joe because I knew that her best friend Rachel
Rekia was on this season, and I.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Go, what is this about? And now, of.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Course, like she knows for sure, and we don't like
to spoil things on the show. But later in this
article it does touch on something that Jill did touch
on in the text that she responded to me. She
brings up the truth box. So we see the truth
box in the teaser, and I think, like, I don't
know whether the truth box is like you put secrets
(29:23):
in there about people and then at some point they're
read out loud, or whether it's kind of like one
of those things where you take a question out of
the truth box and like you're sitting around some campfire
and it's like an activity where you know, you pull
it out and you need to like answer. Honestly, it's
like who is the troublemaker in the clan or who
(29:45):
is the one to most likely steal your boy?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
If this is the twist that's getting publicity, then they're
really hurting because that is not a huge twist.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's a twist.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I would love the well if it was my first
explanation or guests where like you just put in your
little thoughts and then at some point somebody.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Has to read all these secrets out loud.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, here's my problem with that. Ashley obviously have a
problem with stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And that's good for me as a viewer, not for
me as part of the cast.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Well, it feels like social media to me.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You can hide behind something like if you're able to
put in a box something about somebody else that maybe
isn't positive, then it's almost like social media because you're
hiding behind a screen, You're hiding behind this. Nope, I
don't know. Obviously we're speculating everything. But if there is
the ability to call somebody out but not have to
do it to their face, then I don't think it's healthy.
(30:45):
Like I think one of the things about Paradise that
is mos then with health you know, yeah, well, I
think one of the things that that makes Paradise great
is you have to confront these things, right, think about
the Blake Hortsman stories, the Dean stories, the love trying
to breakups, the thing that we love about Paradise is
that you can't run away from this stuff, Like you
can't hide it and just get eliminated. You have to
(31:07):
confront it at some point because you're counting on this
partner or you're counting on this dynamic to get you
to the next week. So maybe possibly you can find
your forever person. I like that about Paradise. I like
that you're on a beach, isolated in one area of
men and women living together trying to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I don't want that to go away. I don't want
it to be buffered.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, totally see where you're coming from. I just say,
don't you think that if this truth box and these
secrets come out that like immediately people are gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Be like, it's that person who said it, and then
you're gonna have to confront it anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, maybe arguments.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah, it's definitely helping helping people get better at being me.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
That's exactly what it's doing.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You're so right, I don't even know that that's what
it is. I actually don't even think that's what it is.
I think it like brings up questions and then you
guys have to like discuss it.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
It's like going back to high school around, like when
you sit around, you're like, you know, what is the
game when you put down one finger?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
You raise a finger?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, oh you mean never have I ever?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like that, like never have I ever? Like,
but it's a different kind of game where it's bringing
truth out, it's forcing conversation, it's helping people share things
or talk about things that maybe they wouldn't And so
if that's the case, I could get behind it. I
could get behind that. I just don't know if that
is a big enough twist to be promoting publicly.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Certain certainly not. But they do this to this every year.
I know when I first saw the headline.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I was like, Oh, what are they gonna do. Are
they going to tell everyone that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Like there's no need for engagements or something, No where
there's gonna be no engagements or like, I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Thought, big, you know what, I'm excited for this season,
and I think the cast is going to be a
really good cast with some big characters that we've known
and watched. I always get excited for Paradise. Now this
year I kind of get the double whammy with the
Golden Bachelor, so we'll be better about I'll be watching
(33:09):
with just.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
A breaking news.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Ben never went on the show. And it's done. It's
done filming, it's done filming.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yeah, I've never there, never there. You won't see it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
They had other they had other alums there.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I thought for sure, at least I would get a
phone call to, you know, be like, hey, this is
actually happening, come be a part of this with us.
You wanted it, you wanted to be a part of
it so bad. I don't know what else to do anymore.
I'm kind of like I felt like I for the
first time kind of went out of my comfort zone
and publicly said and asking and so and that was
kind of the advice that everybody gave me that you
(33:44):
know is around me. And they said, just ask, Like
if you ask, like they're gonna have to like consider it.
They want it considered. Maybe they just don't think about
you anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
And so I did. I asked, and.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Then yeah, I don't know, backfire or some I don't
know ever got a phone call. So what are you
gonna do?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You get a But I'm just gonna sit at home
and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
You're gonna enjoy. We have to put it behind.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Us and now my life stay. My life continues on
like it always has. It just means less time away
from my wife, less time away from my dog, less
time away from Colorado, place that I love. There's so
much good to it. It's just a little frustrating. But
here's what I'm thinking, Ashley, think about this a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
You're going to be the host of the season too.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Of let's give it another shot. Let's go right back
and let's start another petition. As we said, we have
a big week of content coming your way, some very
exciting things coming up. We are ending our off season
on a high note. I think it's been a great
off season. We will be breaking down next week look
for I mean, I'm so excited to break down Deanon
(34:50):
Kaylin's wedding with Ashley because I think both of us
are going to have maybe different perspectives, but different things
that we have participated in. I'm very excited to see
Ashley in person and Jared in person.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Are you excited to see me participate in like field games?
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I am very I always there's one of my one
of my favorite activities to seeing you get competitive.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I'm mentally competitive, like with trivia, but never physically because
I know I cannot. You're referring to Winter Games when
you just saw the worst.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Of my athleticism.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, you and my wife have a very similar, uh
kind of way of going about cold weather. You bundle
yourself up to look like a marshmallow, like, you put
on as many layers and many hats as possible, and
your arms are just kind of stuck because I like socks.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Yeah, you're electric socks. It's it's a sight to be seen.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Obviously, this one, well, it's gonna be cold, but we're
gonna break down everything here on the Almost Famous Podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Tune in this week for some more episodes pop in
your way, But until next time, I've been Been, I've
been Ashley.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
See you later, guys.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey everyone, we're back the two of us the almost
in this podcast, which is great. So we wanted to
talk about Ben's trip to Italy. You went with Jess
and then both sets of parents, which is really nice.
Is that the first trip you guys went on with
both sets of parents, like, you know, a vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Vacation.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
No, we've done Christmas now together two years in eg
Oh yeah, duh. So I mean, first off, it's good
to be back. It's nice to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Thanks, We're so happy. We're happy to have you.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah. You you were busy when I was.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I was, we had quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You're pumping out some great episodes. Make sure you go
back and listen to those. But I am. I am
happy to come back and hang out with you and
be with the team. So we've done Christmas together a
few years in a row. We do it because.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Because your in laws get along so well, isn't it
nice to have that. My parents take along really well
with Jarry's parents, it is.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
And I'm an only child, so that's a good piece, right,
So you know, I think for me, there is obviously
the desire, the want to spend holidays with my family. However,
you know we aren't going to be able to do
that forever where we go on vacation for a holiday
because kids will come into play, and you know, Justic's
(01:18):
parents are about to become grandparents here in about I
don't know, a week, and so we wanted to take
advantage of the time that we had. Italy was for
a few things. One, my mom just turned sixty, her
dad just as dad just turned sixty, Her mom is Italian,
has never been to Italy, and my dad is retiring soon.
(01:40):
And so this was kind of a last year when
Jess and I are like, there's so many big things
happening in our family's lives. What could we do with
them to like celebrate it and to make a memory together?
And so Italy was the obvious choice because it's Italy.
And so we went to Rome, we went to Florence,
we went to Pompeii, and then we went down to
(02:03):
the Amalfi Coast and spent five days in the Malfy
coast doing like a lemon tour with an incredible company.
If anybody wants any lemon tour recommendations, it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Is awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've been all those places. I've been to Italy three
times now, just crazy. I know, well, once for a wedding,
once for our honeymoon, and then once we did a
Mediterranean cruise with my family, so.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
We like hit all those little spots. So all those
little spots, you know, like realm. So of all the places,
where did you think was the best food.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I think the best food that we had had to
be in like on the Malfy Coast.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Oh really, okay, So are you a seafood guy.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Well, I'm allergic to shellfish.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh that's right, but I like, I mean, I'm obviously
a huge fish fan. I just can't have the you know,
shrimp and lobsters and clams. I think Rome everybody when
I was going to Italy kind of said, hey, Rome
a big city. Like it's just a big city. It's
gonna be hectic, you know, there's things to do, but
it's it's just a big city. I loved Rome. I
(03:08):
personally found Rome to be very exciting. Around every corner
there's history. There's obviously so much of our kind of
Western civilization was kind of like built there, like the
foundation of it, and then you know, obviously as somebody
who is a Christian, like, there's so much biblical history
(03:29):
in Rome with you know, Paul and Peter and then
obviously the Roman Empire. So for me, I was just
kind of infatuated the whole time with Rome. We had
great food in Rome. We went to some restaurants there
in Rome, and a little neighborhood. I'm gonna say it wrong,
Jessico would say it right, but it's called Traverse. I
(03:50):
think it was the name of it, and it was.
It was full of good food and good drink. Here's
what I'm gonna do, Ashley. I'm gonna upload. I have
the whole because I planned this trip for my face.
It's kind of like something I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's so cool. I love that.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I'm going to upload kind of our agenda I haven't
written down and so everybody can see and if they're
going to Italy soon. I got a lot of messages
on social media that people are like, hey, I'm going
to Italy next.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Year or next week or whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I'll just upload it and if people want to kind
of follow it and know where we ate and where
we stayed. We stayed in a Mafi Coast at in
a little town called Maori. It's way down south. We
did it because it's less expensive and it has a
port so we could get around them offy coast by boat.
And I would recommend staying in a little town called Minori,
(04:39):
which is right next to it, less expensive, doesn't have
the hustle and bustle of other places, has amazing food,
very local.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So I'll just upload it if people want to follow it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Cool, it's a great idea. I agree. I mean I
liked I even like Roam's food the most.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was obsessed with just the architecture there and just
walk around the little alleys. I can just do that
all day and just be in awe of It's like
what every building looks like is just gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I have a little bone to pick with the US
coming back from Rome.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, why don't we put effort into our buildings the
way that they put effort in.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So I live obviously in Denver. Here's like my opinion.
I would love for people to argue with me on it,
just because I think it's It's one I want to
learn more about, and I think I learned more when
people kind of come back with other sides.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know, Rome Italy, Italy in general has buildings that
are thousands of years old. Some of these buildings are
still standing. Some of these buildings have been refurbished and
are being used as amazing like condos and apartments and restaurants.
Well in the US, obviously, I work in the restaurant world,
(05:52):
and I obviously have a coffee company in coffee shops
in the US.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
All of our licensing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
To get any type of food prep you have to
have cleanable walls and ceilings, which mean you can't have
brick like walls in a kitchen. I get that. There's
issues to that. I get to like there's some sanitation issues. However,
there has to be a good medium because I want
to see our one hundred year old buildings, one hundred
and fifty year old buildings still be used here in
(06:22):
the US, because there's something special about sitting in the
basement of a like a thousand year old building and
having dinner and breaking bread where people have done it
for like years and years. It's very sacred, it's very special,
and I miss that here. I don't want everything to
be sterile here. I kind of want to have the
I want to have some grease on the walls, I
(06:42):
guess personally, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I completely agree with that. Do you feel like
this is another thing with America? Like I believe me,
I am. I'm an American girl, and every time I
go abroad, I am so excited, honestly to come back
to America, you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know, just like missed the conveniences and like, you know,
but like it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's great to go there and experience it, and then
it's also great to know that you can come home.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So my big thing is.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Just like it's crazy the way that their food over
there digests so much better. Did you find yourself to
be like able to go walk around and be comfortable
after a huge meal and then the next day your
stomach be like flatter than ever.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
No, I one hundred percent felt this. I also felt
this with the wine. You know, you got a bottle
of wine at dinner every night, and I would have,
you know, two glasses of wine. And if I have
two glasses of wine, like I am a cocktail a
night kind of guy, or at least a cocktail every
couple of nights, just one kind of like it's my thing.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I watch the sunset. But that's about where I can stop.
I don't. I don't overdrink in my life.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Jessica knows this because it I hate the feeling and
I don't like losing control. It's not that's not why
I do it. I've had moments. Obviously you've seen it,
but not it's very rare. I after two glass of wine,
like I felt great, Like I felt like fine, there's
just a yeah, the food and the drink over there
just felt like it digested easier. I think if anybody's
traveling to Italy, you're gonna find that too. You can
(08:14):
eat a bowl of pasta or a whole pizza to
yourself and get up and be like I feel pretty good,
like I'm rocking and rolling.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, you can just tell that there's like nothing toxic
in the food, and your body knows exactly how to
process it, whereas like at home, you know, we don't
know really what's in it. But like I do think
that there's some sort of guideline or whatnot that like
each restaurant needs to source their all their ingredients from
(08:41):
a certain radius around them to ensure that it's as
fresh as it can be.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In Italy, you think, mm hmmm, yeah, I think I've
heard of this.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean, you know, remember a few years ago where
the shop local trend became very popular and it was
kind of a big push, uh, not only from like
kind of our generation.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
It was maybe eight years ago.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I still think it's a very popular thing to do,
but the shop local became very popular. I think that's
I think it's a really amazing solution if it's sustainable
because you're getting fresh ingredients, because you're supporting your local farmers.
And I do think you see that, right, you have
produce sitting out like in the kitchen that you can
(09:21):
just tell has been picked that day. We did that
limon to or like I said, and understood kind of
how the limon industry works, but also the struggles that
Italy is going to have with the lemon industry here
in the next few years because young people aren't entering
into farming and so you know, these small farms are
no longer maybe sustainable for the lifestyle that the younger
(09:42):
generation in Italy wants to live.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So to go back to Italy.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I don't know if listeners are going to be intrigued
with all the details, but here's the things I said
from our trip that I would recommend what we did.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
I think Pompeii is very much worth it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If anybody tells, yeah, it is, you get a ton
of history. And you know, obviously last year we went
to Israel. The ruins at Pompeii are in the best
shape of any ruins that we've seen through Israel in Italy.
I also think the Amalfi Coast is one hundred percent
worth Going to the Amalfi Coast is definitely the most
(10:19):
beautiful place I've ever been. It is shockingly pretty. And
here is the question that everybody wants to ask, how
did the trip go? Like, how do to How did
the six of us get along? We got along really good.
I cannot imagine it going better. There is no arguments.
Everybody had enough freedom to do their own thing. But
we had a ton of time together. We agreed on stuff,
(10:42):
We had a lot of fun together. It was an
amazing trip, one that I know when i'm you know,
it's crazy when you're in these experiences and you're like,
when I'm sixty five years old, I'm gonna look back
and remember this trip, like I'm gonna still talk about
our trip to Italy with both in laws. It's gonna
be something that is a pivotal piece of my life,
(11:03):
and so it was.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I feel very I don't want to say blessed, because
blessed over. I just feel very fortunate, grateful that we
were able to do that with both sets of parents
and have those memories together. I will say the gelagg
was real. My dad suffered really bad with it, like
really bad getting there. Getting there it was really hard,
and then getting back has kind of been a transition.
(11:27):
But you know, eight hours is enough to really shake
you up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Last question for you, Yeah, what's your take on lemon Cello?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Love lemon Cello. I cannot say that.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I am not a oh my gosh, I'm craving lemon
Cello type of person. We did, though, find that the
place that we went had Melonchello, had like cream Cello,
had chocolate cello, coo. Well, there's a lot of different
cello's in there. Lemon Cello, though done well, which they
(12:00):
did do it well, is fantastic, but it's not something
I crave, maybe as much as others crave Wominchello.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, they would always give us a shot of Lemonchello
because we were on our honeymoon. Yeah, and well Jared
would not like could not, And then I was like
not super keen, too sweet, too tart. Sorry, but I
also cannot deny a free drink, so I took them all.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I can't deny it either. Maybe you should have
said we were on our honeymoon, you Okay, craziest story
from the trip outside of all the other things. I
come from a town of forty five hundred people were Sundyana.
You saw it aired on The Bachelor. We are in
may Ori or Minori, Italy, going to dinner one night.
It is right next to our hotel, walking down the
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street and there's my old neighbors from More Sun Diana
walking down the street as well.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Wild as wild as that. Okay, that's the most because
it's warsaw. But I always feel like when you're traveling abroad,
you somehow find one person that you've met before in life,
and it's weird.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
It's very weird.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
It makes you you know, back when you were a
kid and your parents used to say, like, you gotta
behave because you never know how it's going to come
back around. And I always like, yeah, right, Well, it does.
It comes back around. You got to keep your stuff
together as you get older, because your circle gets bigger. Ashley,
I want to transition this conversation again. I will upload
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our itinerary from Italy. I think that could be interesting
to anybody going over there and may be helpful. I'll
give some tips and stuff like that here. In a week,
you and I are going to be together. We're gonna
be together at Dean and Kaylan's wedding. Okay, obviously, we
just had Dean and Kaylan on our podcast and they
gave some details around their wedding and some of the
fun things they've been doing to lead up to their wedding.
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Dean and I play golf this week weekend together.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
They're out here.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We had dinner with them, and they're very excited for
this wedding. I am personally very excited for this wedding.
People are coming to Colorado who have never been to
Colorado or maybe never experienced real Colorado. And this is
obviously a place I live and I love, and I
I want people to see an experience. So Dean and
I are talking on the golf course and Dean is
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very excited for this as I said, but he did
mention to me. He goes, you know, the thing that's
gonna be semi shocking for people is one, this wedding
is not an Aspen. I think all of us have
been saying it's an Aspen. It's not an Aspen. It's
very far from Aspen.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's over gat.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, you're not gonna You're not gonna just jump down
the mountain and go to Aspen. The second piece is
it's a very rustic, very rustic venue where we're staying
at the venue. There's not like hotels around, right, So
these are cabins, not super well insulated.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
They will well, that's good to know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, so Jessica and I will be bringing blankets for
everybody from our house, will drive us.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What do I dress like is go pretty darn cold.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It could be a little chili. Yeah, it could be
a little chilly.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I would definitely prepare for it to be in the fifties,
maybe high forties.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Uh. And then there is And this.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Is where I want to talk to you about it
because I personally find this to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, I think I know what you're gonna say, and
it's gonna freak me out. Are you gonna say there's
no cell service and Wi Fi?
Speaker 5 (15:22):
There's no cell service, but I do believe there's Wi Fi?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Okay, because as a parent, that's not fun, you know
what I mean. It's a whole different thing. Like I
used to love actually going on The Bachelor and them
taking my phone away. I mean like that, yes, human connection,
but now it's like totally not okay to.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I get it. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
So here's what I was laughing with Dean about, You're
gonna have a bunch of people who spend their most
of their time and living, influencing, posting and sharing different things.
There's not really gonna be that availability. Do you think
people are gonna have freakouts? Or do you think most
people are going to really enjoy the disconnection from the
hustle and bustle of the world.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think it comes down to whether you have kids
or not.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Okay, So those that have kids might be a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, Like, and I'm gonna be honest, Jared doesn't do well.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't I wouldn't do well either.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, I don't know, because like he's also has this
other child, which is Audrey's. So it's like she he's
like already stressed that he has to run it from
like being you know, not there present, and then yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Well I do think there's Wi Fi.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
So I think like, overall, you're gonna be able to
make it work when you need to make it work.
But I don't think you're gonna be walking from cabin
to cabin and getting like the ability to text, and
so I do think that will be eliminated. But I
do think he'll be able to FaceTime and call and
do all the things that you can do on Wi Fi.
I don't this isn't like in the middle of absolutely nowhere.
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There is a town.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
There, there is a town. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So Jared also has anxiety, and I understand because I
have like extreme rule anxiety. I'll just always remember when
I went to James Madison University, which is Harrisonburg, Virginia,
which is a very well developed city now with the college.
But if you go like ten miles out, it's just
pure darkness, Like you could be on a country road
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and not see any lights left to right for miles
and that freaks me out. Yeah, and Jared also has
like this anxiety because he just feels like he wants
to be independent, like he wants to be able to
go grab a coffee whenever he wants to, and if
he doesn't have that freedom, that stresses him out. Yeah well,
(17:36):
I see, You'll see he'll mask it well with him,
but I'm sure he'll.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Be freaking out.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, I personally really love this because I love getting
out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
And there's a comfort.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Anti that's the anti Jared. Yeah, he loves his comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So we will be attending this wedding in a few days.
It's going to be a great celebration. There's going to
be more Bachelor Family than I expected to be there.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So excited for Becca and Tanya to be there. I
consider Tanya to be an honorary Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I forget that she wasn't a part of the y.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I know we've always wanted her to be on, but
now we are so excited that our iHeart family member
Tanya rad is engaged to the love of her life, Robbie.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
So good, so good.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So anyways, it's gonna be a wild experience. I can't
wait to share the stories with you. I am so
excited to see you all. I'm very excited to see
everybody including myself, get out of their comfort zones and
into the mountains for a few days to celebrate the
love that Dean and Calen have for each other. It's
gonna be great, and there's no way you get this
many people in one place without some great stories that.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Come out of it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm seriously, like so excited to have like a little
Bachelor Nation reunion. But also, you're right, it'll be nice
to like not have everybody on their phones and we
can actually feel like it's about the reunion, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
It actually talks to people, so yeaheah.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We get to talk to people and I don't feel
like I'm interrupting them every time I look at them
because they're texting and looking down at their phones.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It's going to be great. Anyways. You hate that we
have some Bachelor headlines.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
We do have a busy week of some great interviews
coming up your way. We are getting closer and closer
to the end of our off season. This was our
off season. It's why I was able to go.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To Italy short af It.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Is right, and there's a lot of press coming out
about the Golden Bachelor. I saw yesterday that I don't
think it was official necessarily, but reality Steve did release
who he believes is the contestants on this season.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I have no clue how he.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Found from the contestants on Joey season Joey's season that
will be coming up.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But The Bachelor also did.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
They announced it only on their Facebook page and it
isn't unofficial list. There is a friend of mine on
the Facebook list, but like, we can't really go above
and beyond and get excited because it's all kind of
like a teaser. So what happened was with Clayton season,
they did the same sort of release, but there were
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like three girls from the Facebook list that didn't make
the cut, so it's very much an unofficial cast list.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Well, it's getting closer. Let's dive into headlines because there
are a few. Here's the first. Hannah Godwin reveals her
favorite honeymoon memory and why her wedding was in Paris.
(20:39):
We had this question, now it's being answered.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Mm hmm, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So the best part of their honeymoon, she said, was
having deep belly laughs about so many things, and about
and them being in their own little world.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
She said. Obviously the food location.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Just relaxing was really nice, but our favorite memories are
definitely the laughs that they had. And she even has
a little notes, you know, in her notes app she
put some of the things that they cracked up over,
which I love that idea. It's because you know, how
many times do you say, like, what was that thing
that we just cracked up over? And you remember the laugh,
but you don't remember what the heck you were laughing over.
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So she documented it so they can go back and
look at it. She also said that they decided on
Paris because when they were like first out and able
to do anything as a couple after Bachelor and Paradise,
they went to France.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was really meaningful to them. They loved it so much.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But they didn't decide on having it there until actually
New Year's Eve this past year. So if you guys
have ever planned a wedding out there, you know that
deciding on a location seven months out is actually quite
difficult because the venues have all been sucked up. She goes,
that's she goes, that is why we had a Wednesday wedding.
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So she goes, we highly recommend it.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, if you're traveling to Paris, it doesn't
really matter what day you're exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You're already making a week out of it.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, you're making a week.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Next headline is this Katie Thurston, who we obviously announced
is going to be on f Boy Island, a creation
of somebody who used to be an executive producer on
The Bachelor along Gail. But Katie Thurston embraces the humor
on f Boy Island season three.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So she says that her experience on f Boy Island,
which does not premiere until Sober sixteenth at eight o'clock
on the CW, she says it's like the total opposite
of what she had gone through before. So she had
never watched the show before being asked to do it,
so she binge watched it, and she said she was
(22:47):
truly laughing out loud watching Binge watching season two.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
She said she was.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Pleasantly surprised by how feminist it was. She said she
liked how it was satirical and comedy focused, and so
once she saw it, she was like, what, well, yeah,
why not? This sounds like it's going to be a
really fun time for me. So, if you guys haven't
watched Foy Island, Kitty does explain it quite well.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
She goes, an f boy.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is someone who makes decisions in her opinion selfishly. You know,
where they're not taking into consideration the person that it
could impact. They're doing it for their own gain, pleasure, reward,
whatever that is. Whereas these nice guys are going to
look at the bigger picture and assess their actions because
of that take you into consideration in terms of how
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it's going to make you feel. They should be honest
and how they're always thinking about how decision impacts everybody else.
She just said that like being on the show was
the antithesis of the Bachelor in tone, because everything is
kind of like you can have humor with it. It's lighthearted,
nobody's necessarily looking for their soulmate. On f Boy Island,
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she said that she was able to have conversations like
full uninterrupted conversations where nobody was like, okay, okay, guys,
let's get more serious, let's talk about marriage, and like
if you guys both want to be parents one day,
she said she was able to just like have straight,
uninterrupted conversations and it was just a more comedy based
She also liked the fact that there was like a
sisterhood element because she was alongside to other women the
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entire time, and she was like, worst case scenario, if
I don't live with money, I have some new sisters.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And Nicki Glazer is obviously the host of this and
probably brings a massive amount of humor to the show,
and it's going to be you know, it's an intriguing watch,
I think, and it's an interesting concept. It's great to
hear Katie be so positive about a reality television experience.
That's not something we're used to, right, I mean, yeah,
she obviously had a really great experience, and she trusted
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the team because I don't think she had any interest
in during reality television necessarily again, after her time, I
don't think she loved her time as the Bachelor, at
least from what she has said. So she obviously trusted
the team and went on and then came ou off
of it. And it's like, hey, this is really great.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, so good for love.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, this is a big one one that we've kind
of been speculating for a bit, just didn't have the answers,
but today we do. Michael a has officially confirmed his
breakup with Daniel Mulby. This one hurts deeply, actually, very deeply.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's very sad, yes, very assumed. We pull it up
and read it directly, which it was about time to
be honest, because like, what are you to do just
like fade your relationship into obscurity with the fans that
have followed it from the very beginning? Like you know,
you know, you start a relationship on TV, you kind
of have to if you're if it's going to end,
you kind of have to discuss it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Do you agree with me on that?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I do?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I mean I think I think at some point you
just have to confirm that it's no longer a relationship
because if not, then, I mean I think everybody is
probably in your comments and in your messages making exceptions
and then what happens when you get seen on a
date with somebody else?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, it lingers longer than it needs to. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
So he actually said it on Jason Tartic's podcast. The
episode was released today September eighteenth. He says, it's not
what we plan.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
We both threw a lot into this relationship, and it's
awful when it doesn't work out. You mourn the loss
of not just that person and friend in your life,
but also the future that you had envision. That's so true.
A lot of it is like the death of the
dreams of the relationship that hurt the most, in my opinion,
he said, And it's to no fault of hers. She
(26:36):
poured everything into this. We're still, you know, working through
some things and trying to stay close, but the last
few months have been really rough. He's ended the conversation
by saying that starting over again is always frightening. I
know that time will heal, because I've felt that before,
but it doesn't make this anything any less difficult. And
(26:58):
he just said, yeah, yeah, that's basically all he said
on Jason's podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
But we'll have to listen to that too.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
This is an interesting headline for me. I obviously know
people still working on Paradise, working within Paradise. I don't
know what he's talking.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
About me neither. Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Feel like I'm pretty I don't know any of the
spoilers for Paradise.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I just refuse.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But I do always like to hear about the kind
of the some of the characters. I like to hear
about some of the like the vibe of Paradise and
kind of how it plays out. That's kind of where
I liked it, because Paradise intrigues me. I've never been,
so it's kind of like this mystery place. But this
is the headline. Jesse Palmer promises unique twist for Bachelor
(27:55):
in Paradise season nine. This according to Yahoo. I don't
know what this twist is. I have no idea what
he said.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I know, Okay, So here's the quote.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
There's going to be something really special and unique about
this season, something to celebrate. I think all Bachelor Nation
is going to be really really excited about it. Everyone
on the beach will be too. I really cannot wait
to see what happens and where this goes. Now, before
I continue, I just want to say that, like, this
sounds different than last year's twist, which was separating the
cast and adding more in while the girls.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Were Nobody liked that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So Jesse says that everybody's going to be excited about it. However,
Wells does not share this sentiment. He says, I imagine.
Wells says, I imagine that there will be things that
people are not expecting to happen, and they're probably going
to be.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Very angry about it.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
He says, I'll be fine because I'll be making drinks
and just watching the dumpster fire happen in front of me.
So I was so interested about this headline that I
texted Joe because I knew that her best friend Rachel
Rekia was on this season, and I.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Go, what is this about? And now, of.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Course, like she knows for sure, and we don't like
to spoil things on the show. But later in this
article it does touch on something that Jill did touch
on in the text that she responded to me. She
brings up the truth box. So we see the truth
box in the teaser, and I think, like, I don't
know whether the truth box is like you put secrets
(29:23):
in there about people and then at some point they're
read out loud, or whether it's kind of like one
of those things where you take a question out of
the truth box and like you're sitting around some campfire
and it's like an activity where you know, you pull
it out and you need to like answer. Honestly, it's
like who is the troublemaker in the clan or who
(29:45):
is the one to most likely steal your boy?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
If this is the twist that's getting publicity, then they're
really hurting because that is not a huge twist.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's a twist.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I would love the well if it was my first
explanation or guests where like you just put in your
little thoughts and then at some point somebody.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Has to read all these secrets out loud.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, here's my problem with that. Ashley obviously have a
problem with stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And that's good for me as a viewer, not for
me as part of the cast.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Well, it feels like social media to me.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You can hide behind something like if you're able to
put in a box something about somebody else that maybe
isn't positive, then it's almost like social media because you're
hiding behind a screen, You're hiding behind this. Nope, I
don't know. Obviously we're speculating everything. But if there is
the ability to call somebody out but not have to
do it to their face, then I don't think it's healthy.
(30:45):
Like I think one of the things about Paradise that
is mos then with health you know, yeah, well, I
think one of the things that that makes Paradise great
is you have to confront these things, right, think about
the Blake Hortsman stories, the Dean stories, the love trying
to breakups, the thing that we love about Paradise is
that you can't run away from this stuff, Like you
can't hide it and just get eliminated. You have to
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confront it at some point because you're counting on this
partner or you're counting on this dynamic to get you
to the next week. So maybe possibly you can find
your forever person. I like that about Paradise. I like
that you're on a beach, isolated in one area of
men and women living together trying to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I don't want that to go away. I don't want
it to be buffered.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, totally see where you're coming from. I just say,
don't you think that if this truth box and these
secrets come out that like immediately people are gonna.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Be like, it's that person who said it, and then
you're gonna have to confront it anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, maybe arguments.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah, it's definitely helping helping people get better at being me.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
That's exactly what it's doing.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You're so right, I don't even know that that's what
it is. I actually don't even think that's what it is.
I think it like brings up questions and then you
guys have to like discuss it.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
It's like going back to high school around, like when
you sit around, you're like, you know, what is the
game when you put down one finger?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
You raise a finger?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, oh you mean never have I ever?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like that, like never have I ever? Like,
but it's a different kind of game where it's bringing
truth out, it's forcing conversation, it's helping people share things
or talk about things that maybe they wouldn't And so
if that's the case, I could get behind it. I
could get behind that. I just don't know if that
is a big enough twist to be promoting publicly.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Certain certainly not. But they do this to this every year.
I know when I first saw the headline.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I was like, Oh, what are they gonna do. Are
they going to tell everyone that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Like there's no need for engagements or something, No where
there's gonna be no engagements or like, I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Thought, big, you know what, I'm excited for this season,
and I think the cast is going to be a
really good cast with some big characters that we've known
and watched. I always get excited for Paradise. Now this
year I kind of get the double whammy with the
Golden Bachelor, so we'll be better about I'll be watching
(33:09):
with just.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
A breaking news.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Ben never went on the show. And it's done. It's
done filming, it's done filming.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yeah, I've never there, never there. You won't see it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
They had other they had other alums there.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I thought for sure, at least I would get a
phone call to, you know, be like, hey, this is
actually happening, come be a part of this with us.
You wanted it, you wanted to be a part of
it so bad. I don't know what else to do anymore.
I'm kind of like I felt like I for the
first time kind of went out of my comfort zone
and publicly said and asking and so and that was
kind of the advice that everybody gave me that you
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know is around me. And they said, just ask, Like
if you ask, like they're gonna have to like consider it.
They want it considered. Maybe they just don't think about
you anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
And so I did. I asked, and.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Then yeah, I don't know, backfire or some I don't
know ever got a phone call. So what are you
gonna do?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You get a But I'm just gonna sit at home
and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
You're gonna enjoy. We have to put it behind.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Us and now my life stay. My life continues on
like it always has. It just means less time away
from my wife, less time away from my dog, less
time away from Colorado, place that I love. There's so
much good to it. It's just a little frustrating. But
here's what I'm thinking, Ashley, think about this a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
You're going to be the host of the season too.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Of let's give it another shot. Let's go right back
and let's start another petition. As we said, we have
a big week of content coming your way, some very
exciting things coming up. We are ending our off season
on a high note. I think it's been a great
off season. We will be breaking down next week look
for I mean, I'm so excited to break down Deanon
(34:50):
Kaylin's wedding with Ashley because I think both of us
are going to have maybe different perspectives, but different things
that we have participated in. I'm very excited to see
Ashley in person and Jared in person.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Are you excited to see me participate in like field games?
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I am very I always there's one of my one
of my favorite activities to seeing you get competitive.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I'm mentally competitive, like with trivia, but never physically because
I know I cannot. You're referring to Winter Games when
you just saw the worst.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Of my athleticism.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, you and my wife have a very similar, uh
kind of way of going about cold weather. You bundle
yourself up to look like a marshmallow, like, you put
on as many layers and many hats as possible, and
your arms are just kind of stuck because I like socks.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Yeah, you're electric socks. It's it's a sight to be seen.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Obviously, this one, well, it's gonna be cold, but we're
gonna break down everything here on the Almost Famous Podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Tune in this week for some more episodes pop in
your way, But until next time, I've been Been, I've
been Ashley.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
See you later, guys.
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