March 22, 2021 • 39 mins
Now that Matt James season is all wrapped up, Ben and Ashley have some unanswered questions about After the Final Rose. What happened during Michelle and Rachel’s unaired conversation?? And have we heard the last of Bri Springs?
We have the latest on Dale and Clare’s seemingly reignited relationship.
And could Colton Underwood be making a return to TV??
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
with her radio is the almost famous podcast Astuley, I
can Eddie hear here. We're not stopping. Even though it's
the official off season. It's feel like it's been a
while since we really had like an off season. Yes,
we haven't had an off season in a long time.
If you backtrack to this time last year, there was
Listening to Your Heart. Then a couple of weeks after
(00:22):
that ended, there was The Bachelor Greatest Hits, which went
on for like eight to ten weeks, and then we
had the Taja Claire season, and then we have Mad Season. Like,
there has not been any off season this year and
there really won't be again once we start with Katie
season in May. So let's take this time to do
in depths and do some more host chat and all that. Yeah,
(00:43):
I think that's a great idea. I think it's gonna
be awesome. We're gonna do a lot of headlines too.
I mean, there's a lot of things to talk about.
I feel I also actually feel like this is a
really terrific time, like any time is, but this is
a good time to kind of like slow down and
enter into the space of some of these conversations that
have been happening around Bachelor Nation and around the world,
like to really kind of dive into those and to
(01:04):
bring on some guests who can speak to them, speak
with them, speak with us, um, to kind of maybe
move into this next season, like better educated, better prepared
all of us. I think it's a great time for that. Actually, Um,
speaking of host chats, I know right now you have
some big moves going on in life. We've mentioned it
a few times, but but we've kind of waited. I've waited,
(01:26):
I guess to ask you as a friend, even you
and Jared now have officially moved. I I think from
what I'm seeing on Instagram, what's going on in your life? Like?
What have you bought a house? Are you close? Are
you where you move into? Like? Can you just give
us a rundown on where your life is at? Yeah?
Like I can't even remember where I talk about this
from where I don't, So so I forgive us if
(01:46):
we have kind of discussed it and I say the
same things again. Um, So basically I love if you
remember Ben in my vows, I literally promised Jared to
move to Rhode Island of England, um, and that's where
we would make our home, you know, for life that happened,
(02:06):
it's happening a little bit earlier, maybe a year or
two earlier than planned. But that's because over the past
year with COVID, we've really realized that we can do
so much of our work remotely. Like you know that
I used to go into the I Heart studio every week, um,
and then you'd be on zoom, you know, you'd be
on the screen there, um. But we really don't have
to do that anymore. Like how we record now is
(02:28):
just dandy, and so much of what we can do
with remote and we really just didn't feel like l
A would even get very very back to normal for
another year possibly, I mean, like maybe fall, we'll see.
So we're just like we're spending we're wasting so much
money on rent and our apartment on the West Coast
and would rather be with our family on the East coast.
(02:50):
So if we already spent two thirds of this year
on the past calendar year on the East coast, let's
just get rid of our apartment save that money, um
for the Well, what we did decide over December is
that we want to build a house. So we're going
to hopefully build a house within the next year, but
(03:13):
we have to find land to do that, and it's
really hard to look for lots or houses or anything
like that when you're not they're right. So we are
going to Rhode Island tomorrow. We spent the week with
my parents in Virginia, UM, while we waited for our
movers to bring this stuff. They arrive on Wednesday. We'll
(03:34):
get there tomorrow and Jared and I are just kind
of going to spend time with our families over the
next couple months. Maybe um, but may June, we are
gonna start, you know, looking for an apartment. We're just
going to rent for a year or two until our
hopeful house is ready to move in. So did you
(03:56):
drive across the country? How are you? Okay? Oh my gosh,
you know, props of those who do that. I actually
do think it would be kind of cool, but that's
not that was not in the cards for now. Would
you would you or have you ever driven across country? Uh? No,
I drove. I think the longest I've ever driven is
(04:18):
like Indiana to Denverse. That's not that far. No, no, no, no, no,
I've driven Indiana to Wyoming to Buffalo, Wyoming. So that's
twenty seven hours, So that's pretty long. That's really long.
The most I've ever done is like six and a
half seven and that was like Virginia to Syracuse is
about six sixteen and then Virginia to Rhode Island, which
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we've driven a couple of times this year and we'll
do again tomorrow is about six six and a half actually,
before we before we get moving on to headlines here, Uh,
what kind of house are you guys looking to build?
I mean a lot of people out there listening to this.
You know, Jessica and I are right now finished decorating
our house. We did a few things I did. I'm
doing a lot of stuff and she's doing a lot
(05:05):
of like the decoration. You know, Facebook Marketplace, huge winter
h for all things need. I will I will advertise
for them in a second. You know, we have some
great like we have Brooklyn in Uh you know, we
have yeah, Brooklyn in on here that it's great. She's
like we've we've really kind of like started to work
on this house. Um, what kind of like what kind
(05:27):
of house are you building? People? I think are very intrigued. Yeah,
I like pretty traditional colonial. But you know, I like
the very modern inside, the very like look, which is
a lot of white, a lot of neutrals. We really
like gray hardwood floor that's like are a weird must
have of ours. We like stone fireplaces. I want a
(05:50):
very traditional like New England style look on the outside. Um,
white paneling, black shutters, possibly a red door. I really
like those, um and know what they're called. But like,
you know how like on a third level or in
the attic you have those like three windows that kind
of like pop out a little bit from the roof. Sure, yeah,
(06:10):
I can envision. I have no clue what it's is
like a it's not a terrorist, Yeah, I know, you
know what I'm talking about. So like that look just
like traditional, like a modern colonial. That's super awesome. Actually,
I'm pumped for you. This will be a fun This
is gonna be a really fun season. You've done the
l a thing, You've done it well, you've crushed it
through the whole thing. Now it's time um for Rhode
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Island and to make your first home with Jared. This
is really awesome, that's super cool. Well, um, you know
it's uh, it's a busy time in Uh, in the
in the world around us, there is a lot of
headlines uh going on In fact, um, this is kind
of what these podcasts are about. Let's break down going
(06:54):
on in Bachelor Nation right now. We're gonna come back
with bachelor headlines. M h, We're back with bachelor headlines.
Of course, we have our resident expert on all things headlines. Actually,
like Eddie here waiting. Uh. First headline is this Matt
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James talks possibility of Rachel Kirknel reconciliation, says he's not
going to be dating this according to people. Yeah, so
you know, during after the final rows, I think it
was pretty obvious to all of us that there wasn't
much interest in reconciliation. Well, this week Matt was on
the Bill Simmons podcast and he said, I don't think again,
(07:41):
he said this, I don't think anybody's irredeemable. I think
that I think that for Rachel, there's a lot that
we didn't discuss that we probably should have talked about.
I probably should have asked her more clarifying questions, and
I'm giving her space to do that. However, he says
um that he's just so exhausted. He wants to take
(08:03):
a step back from everything and process what's been going on.
He just says that he's focused on getting back into
that meaningful work that he does in the community and
centering himself around projects that are going to elevate all
the work and he's been working on doing, um, you know,
all that stuff in this in New York City and
(08:23):
special interest stuff. He really just wants to kind of
focus on life outside reality TV. But he said that
he won't be dating for a while. That's the juicy.
The juicy quote here is that he, uh yeah, we'll
be dating for a while. I'm going to focus on work.
Hey good, I mean good for him if that's what
he feels is right and best for him. We hope
(08:43):
that he can heal come back stronger than ever. He's
a special dude. Well uh more Matt James headlines because
obviously this is all kind of circling around, like you're
getting the undertones of this that you know Matt is
is processing a lot right now. I don't want to
put words in his mouth that he's struggling, but he's
processing a lot. He has a tweet this week that says,
Google therapist need near me. Which I think, you know,
(09:07):
just kind of hints at that he's looking to talk
to somebody. But then in addition to that, which is
the headline, I'll read, Uh, we all kind of assumed
that he deleted his Instagram based on kind of, um
that tweet criticism. Yeah, but there's more to it here,
and I think it's really interesting. The headline reads, here's
why Matt James elited his Instagram picks after taxing Bachelor experiences.
(09:29):
According to E, So it's a source and they're exclusively
telling E that Matt wants a fresh start right now
that his Bachelor season has ended. He said, He's what
The source says that he's ready for new beginnings and
that is one of the reasons he cleared his Instagram.
He wants like a step back and refocus his priorities.
(09:50):
Says the show is toxic and taxing on his mental health,
and he's glad that it's over. Um he said. The
insider also says that between him and Rachel, it all
ended badly and there's no chance that they will ever
get back together. Matt truly loved Rachel and it was
devastating that he had to end their relationship. Well, we uh,
(10:12):
not a shock there right, based on what we saw
on after the Final Rose, but it does give clarity
to where they're at. Um some things that I think
we would have loved to have some some insight into.
Is the next headline. This was super interesting. Emmanuel Acho,
who stepped in for Chris Harrison and did after the
Final ros this this season, uh details Rachel Kirknell and
Michelle Young's unaired bachelor after the Final Rose conversation. This
(10:36):
according to US Weekly. Yeah, so what happened is there
was a conversation between Michelle and Rachel that didn't get aired.
He said, you know, he was disappointed about that, but
he totally understands that there's time constraints, you know, on
on everything when it comes to television. So this had
(10:58):
a you know, be cut out Rachel. He was talking
to Michelle basically, and he said that he could sense
that she was still hurt that Rachel never reached out
to her personally once the photos surface, and given their
friendship on the show, she was just you know, she
was feeling off about that. And he said that it
(11:21):
wasn't in the in the script, it wasn't planned at all,
but he figured that since there both in the building,
why not talk about it face to phase. So he
also said that, um, you know, the reconciliation between Rachel
and Matt wasn't gonna happen, so he wanted to have
like some sort of reconciliation take place on after the
final rows. So Rachel was willing and Michelle hadn't left
(11:43):
the building yet, so he brought the two of them
out to talk. He said that Michelle was just very upset,
but um, he said that, you know, Michelle was very upset, um,
but that they had a good conversation that you shared
an embrace of which we didn't see from Rachel and Matt. Uh.
And the two of them sat there, and he said
(12:05):
that he thought it was a nice it was a
beautiful moment that he could witness. He actually feels like
very grateful that he got to witness this. He said
it was the favorite moment that you didn't get to see, um,
but that it was very satisfying conversation. Basically, well, it's uh,
you know again, I think that there's a lot from
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the season that we're gonna continue to talk about. Uh,
We're going to continue to lean into as the off
season happens. It's something that I think all of us
here are ready for, UM prepared for and also very
intrigued by. You know, how do we lean into this? Well,
so these conversations, these reconciling moments that Emmanuel acco is
expressing our our things that I hope can happen. UM.
(12:49):
Now there is more headlines around the Final Rows. This
is something that's interesting. We had Bree Springs in the
podcast uh just last week UM and this was not
brought up, but brief Springs. The headline reads brief Springs
was edited out of after the Final Rose episode. This
according to screen Ring. So, Bree was on Extra last
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week and she mentioned there that she was extremely disappointed
because she felt like she had a great conversation with
Emmanuel about her journey and was able to kind of
wrap it up in a bow and got a closure
from it. And she wishes people could have seen her
reach that conclusion. How did she got mess in this?
And she was talking about getting um closure last week
(13:34):
with us. Oh it's fine. I don't know, but it's fine. UM.
She said that they were very important conversations that needed
to be had, but yeah, she was there and she
she said that she was. She revealed other things too.
Emmanuel a little bit lighter, Um said that she was
scared for her life when the a TV flipped over. Um,
And yeah, I mean that that's basically it, but it
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was in you're saying that something like something like this
would have been cut out, but that the thing is
that it was an hour long. You know, if there's
two hours long, then we would have been able to
see the conversations between Rachel and Michelle and Burrie. But
I think at the point after leaving that two hour
finale episode, having shown a breeze exit which happened the
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week before, it would have felt a little bit like
out of place. Yeah, so I don't remember, but after
the final rose is usually an hour or they usually
to Okay, well, remember how in the past couple of
years they've made them live, so like they kind of
throw back to the audience a little bit. So it's
it feels like it's kind of spread out over three hours,
(14:44):
but the actual after the final Wars conversation is usually
an hour. Alright, fair enough, Well, skipping ahead, we're gonna
start talking about a new bachelorette bachelorettees. I guess we
could say at some point, but right now, it's Katie
Thurston's time to be the bachelorette. Actually, this is interesting
to me because I remember back in the day the
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contestants weren't even revealed, sometimes until after taping was even done. Like,
I remember when it was announced, and now they're announcing
him so early. I want to hear two things. One
is your thoughts on the headline. Too, is your thoughts
on that and why they're doing it. But the headline
reads Katie Thurston's potential bachelorette. Contestants revealed this according to
(15:27):
Entertainment Tonight. Okay, I'm gonna click this link and we're
gonna go through some pictures together. The oldest gap the
oldest age difference between Katie and like her oldest and
youngest guy is eleven years. Oh no, no, no no, okay,
so it's eleven years between the youngest guy on the
season supposedly and the oldest guy in the season. The
youngest guy is supposedly twenty five, which I love. Okay, great,
(15:51):
because you were twenty five on The Bachelor. I start
feeling like bachelorette. Sorry, I think that that's begin to
be a good time frame. To start going on and
then the oldest is thirty six. I also love that great.
Um Katie's thirty For you guys who don't know. And
(16:12):
to answer your question, I don't know. I don't know
that I have a preference on whether're like when the
photos are revealed. I think it's a little I think
it's kind of exciting to get the profiles up. I
guess the profile still go up towards, you know, the
beginning of the season. Right now, we're just getting photos,
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so all we're doing is judging looks um and yeah,
we have no background, so I don't know. I don't
really care either way. I feel like I guess, if
I had to choose, I'd prefer not seeing the contestants
until just a week or two before the season starts.
Just kind of gets you hyped. I don't know, what
(16:53):
do you have a preference? I don't know. I mean
my preference is they should least wait until filming starts
so that the guys don't start messaging each other, like
it was kind of exciting to not know, right, I mean,
I'm are they are the guys already in filming right now? Yeah,
I think they start filming tonight. Actually, yeah, so they
could have seen this, um while they're still kind of
(17:15):
out there, and they could have started like meeting the guys.
And I like the surprise. I just like that, the
not knowing who was going to show up, not knowing
if you're you had a friend that was gonna be there.
I always thought, you know, there was gonna be a
friend of mine that randomly showed up and that I
didn't know about. But um, you know it's I don't
mind seeing the cast early. It gets us familiar with them.
We'll probably push this to the side until closer to
(17:37):
the season launch, like most people will. But it's a
good looking group of dudes. Um, I'm pumped to break
it down as we usually do. I think there's a
lot here. I'm hoping for a really good love story,
as we do every season. Um. But yeah, my preference
is that they would wait. I just think it's I
think it's kind of the fun and the surprise at all.
Also like it gives us something fun to talk about
(17:59):
when a season and approaches, Like they've been releasing these
pictures the day after our finale, Like once somebody's announced
as the as the lead, and I'm like okay, okay, okay,
Like just give me a couple of break and then
I'll get excited again when these photos come out. I'm
looking at the guys and it seems like ABC was
the ones who released these pictures. So, um, yeah, you
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would hope. So if not, that's a massive leak. Um,
that'd be really weird. Yeah, it says ABC released the photos,
but they're not the photos, you know what I mean, Like,
they're not the ones. Ag. It's like the the classic
back drop, like good photos that make these dudes look good.
And so they they throw them in a in a
green screen that you know, makes them look all sorts
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of weird. Hey, um, we'll speaking to this next season
coming up. Tasha Adams is speaking out. She's talking about
her her new gig as I don't know what we're
calling her the host now, I think that's what we're
gonna call her her and Caitlin Bristo Pataia. Yeah, yeah,
it's the same thing, Tasha Adams says of new back
to a hosting gig. My presence matters this according to CNN. Yeah,
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they talked to CNN this week and Tasia said she's
so incredibly excited. She feels so honored to have been
given the opportunity. If I can provide any sense of
comfortability for anybody who's watching the show knowing that I'm there,
my presence matters, But that means that means the most
to me, So she said. She said that she found
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such an amazing love on this journey and if she
could be a mentor for Katie to do the same, um,
that's what she's there for, and she's excited to have
any helping hand in that matter. Tasia continued to say
that did I ever think that this is where I
would be and where my journey would end up? Absolutely not,
But it feels so right, and I truly feel like
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I should be here, and I truly feel like I
can help Katie on this journey. Well, we're excited to
see how that plays out. It's going to be super
interesting to have both Tatia and Haitln guiding uh Katie
along the way. Uh. And I do I think both
those women matter great deal to anybody to come in
(20:09):
contact with terrific people. Uh. And I'm excited to see
a playoff. Hey, do we know side note here? Do
we know if Jason is or um if Clarkey is uh,
are are they quarantining with the women? Jason definitely is.
And I want to know how they got their dogs
over there, because like they've stopped with E. S A
(20:30):
Dogs on airlines, which it's a whole other topic, but
I want to know how the dogs got there. Jason
had to drive the dogs. He's definitely there. Uh. And
then it doesn't look like Clarkey is there with her.
I'm sure he will be at some point. Jason is
two months now. Jason has a lot of stuff going
on right his his his website, and his Instagram restart
(20:53):
is incredible. It's something that I admire and follow. But
he's like the best hype man ever for Kaylin, Like
that dude quarantine for Dance with the Stars. He's quarantining
for her role. I mean, this is gonna be a
long quarantine. Like I mean, I'm sure once you know
he quarantines, he can get out and move about the
resort and kind of do his thing and walk the
dogs and enjoy it. But like this is he's the best.
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He's getting like best boyfriend award right now. Yeah, he's
crushing it. He's quite something. Luckily he can work from
most you know, most quarantine spots. But we know that
was zach he he and his the rehab center. He
probably has to be there in person more often. Sure
he'll be making a visit. Fair enough. Well, Um, last
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week we had a headline that we kind of skimmed over,
but just like briefly talked about, we said Claire Crawley
and Dale Moss were like no longer like it wasn't
gonna work out. That was a headline that we read.
It was it was the information that was pasted to us. Um.
Most people were in agreement to this. We didn't get
a lot of we didn't get any backlash on it.
But as the week played out, we realized that we
(21:59):
were wrong. Everybody was wrong. But there's more to this
story than we see. Ashley. Is a couple of headlines
here about Clariondale that we're gonna run through. We're gonna
do him step by step. The first one is Claire
Crawley and Dale Moss are celebrating her birthday. This according
to Entertainment Tonight. YEP, she turned forty this week and
(22:20):
she spent it with Dale in New York and there
are pictures of the two of them kissing with masks on,
you know, like can you e've done that? Like Eskimo
kisses like a little like those things. Yeah. Yeah, So
there's a picture of floating out there very easy. Just
type in Claire and Dale mass kiss and it will
come up and they look very cute. They were, you know,
(22:43):
and having a little stroll paparazzi cottum um. And then
there's another headline talking about them working on things that
went wrong. So the things that apparently gone wrong in
the past include I think it's it's not him not
being ready for marriage and kids. So I don't know
(23:04):
like how that's gonna work, right, Like if that was
the main issue, then uh maybe maybe Claire's like, Okay,
I am down to wait a little bit longer. Who knows.
We gotta get some insight into this obviously, Uh who
you know, who knows what the next week we'll play
(23:25):
out with the two of them, but we will, we
will continue to dig in. We have a whole team
on it. I mean they are researching this relationship, figuring
out what's going on with Claire in Dale, but they
are together in New York celebrating her birthday. Um, smiling
beneath the masks, which I guess you can tell because
they're smiling with their eyes. Hey, uh, Ashley, let's take
(23:46):
a break here. When we come back, we have some
really interesting headlines. They're gonna We're gonna cover Kelly and Peter.
We're also going to uh cover this upcoming season of
The Bachelorette. In addition to that, we're gonna talk about
the Max Singer, which has been getting a lot of headlines,
and Bachelor Nation. And finally, we're gonna end with a
(24:06):
major headline about Joe Joe Fletcher and Jordan's Rogers. We'll
be back with the almost famous podcast. All right, now,
we're gonna dive into the next Bachelor relationship that has
(24:27):
officially ended this one. They're not back together, but Kelly
Flannagan is speaking out for one of the first times ever.
Kelly Flanagan says there were non negotiable factors that went
into Peter Weber split dis according to people, Okay, so
all unraveled on New Year's Eve. Uh, they decided they
(24:49):
decided to move to New York City together, right, Remember
how they were supposed to do that and then the
announce their split on New Year's Eve. Well, they tried
to mend their relationship once more in February. I think
that was around a Super Bowl time, but now they're
calling it quits for good. Kelly said, on her end,
there were just a lot of non negotiables in the
relationship that essentially we're seeming to be worked on or
(25:13):
saying that they were going to be worked on or change,
and actions kind of speak louder than words. She said,
if there is something that I saw as disrespectful in
a relationship, I would speak on it. I was pretty vocal.
I think communication is huge in a relationship, and there
were things that essentially I would be like, hey, look
this makes me feel like and this makes me feel
(25:35):
this way, um, and they really weren't changing. She said
that he essentially tried to get back together and was
trying to work on things, and she was very hesitant,
and he was telling who he's she's getting juicy here.
He was telling her things like I love you and
I want to get back together with you again. And
(25:56):
that happened around Valentine's Day. But that is all so
around the week where they decided to call it quits
year for sure. Okay, So guys, they broke up on
New Year's weekend. They try to rekindle things. He was
saying he was working on things. She didn't really see
the the work in progress. There wasn't really no improvement,
(26:16):
and they really called it quits for real, for real
around Valentine's Day. Well, to top it off, the next headline,
I mean, it sounds like Kelly speaking out. It sounds
like there there's respect for each other, they're both moving forward,
and then on top of it, Kelly flanning and lights
her hair on fire. It was like, not funny, but
like the progression of things was funny. Yeah, what's going
(26:39):
on there? Basically, Like Blake just says that, you know,
he's friends with both of them. She he really likes
Kelly met her in person over the Super Bowl where
they had that reunion. Um, but and then they still
care about each other. You just can't turn off those feelings, right.
But whether they get back together or not, he doesn't
(26:59):
really know. He just knows that they're they're in pretty
good terms. Well, um yeah, so hair on fire, hair
on fire. Um, hey, big news right now hitting the
waves here as we're talking. Jessica Clark, my fiance right now.
Was in a test as we were recording this to
find to find out if she passed to become an
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official licensed estetician. She just called me. I ignored it,
which is never a good thing to do. I'm gonna
call her back and I'm gonna give us an up
to date headline if she passed. If she didn't pass,
this is gonna be awkward and we'll work through it. Hello, honey,
uh you are on the almost famous podcast. How did
it go? Oh amazing? We knew it, we knew it,
(27:47):
We had zero doubt. I love you, your official licensed
estetician now. Uh On. For anybody out there listening who
lives in Denver and is looking for an estetician, where
can they find you here in the next six months? Well,
now I can officially say I am opening a skin
clinic on South Pearl Street and it's called Just Skin
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din a Just Skin den If you are looking in
Denver for an estetition, Jessica Clark is your girl. She
is uh carrying with her soul, her mind, and her hands.
I think that's important in an aestetition. Will hey, I
will call you back later on. Thanks for the update. Congrats,
jazz I wish that you could fly and extract my
(28:35):
pores at any time. Well, Ashley, I think she's gonna
take you up on that. Love you Hun will talk
to you later. Okay, it's a big deal, guys, it's
a big deal. It's a big moment, huge moment hitting
right now as we talk. That's that's just incredible, way, Ashley.
As we're off topic from the Bachelor for a second,
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there is another headline I want to read. Um, this
one doesn't have to do with hair burning. That doesn't
have to do with hair burning at all. I mean,
that's that's unfortunate at every level. But you know who
hasn't burned off their eyelashes eyebrows at some point. Um.
I just saw this today and I know it's a
popular show on on television, maybe the most popular ever. Well,
(29:21):
I found out that Pete Davidson is rumored to be
dating the girl from Bridger Tin that the lead girl.
This really this, according to TMZ, this is This is
a massive headline that I think most people will be
interested in, and we might be able to break it
sooner than most if it is true. Actually, what does
that do for your heart? Delightful? What a coupling. I'm
(29:48):
so into that. I mean, I love Pete Davidson, like
he just gets our our generation. I feel like he
is so funny. I love his personality. I could listen
to him talk forever, and I just things she's so beautiful.
I don't know much about her personality, but I like it.
I really like it. And how funny that like like
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the like the sort of obnoxious funny guy is going
to be like this woman who's just like so pristine
and proper sy thing. Yeah, it's a great match. Well, hey,
sorry to do railists there. Um, Ashley, we're kind of
gonna stay away from the Bachelor for just a second,
but there's there's a tie in here. Um, the mass
Singer is out. The latest clues are kind of rumored. Now, now, Ashley,
(30:34):
what's going on because they think it's somebody from the Bachelor.
Who could it be? Okay, so it says this is
the Piglets clues And I'm really gonna have to start
watching the mass Singer now to figure out who this
is because I think you and I would know based
on their voice. Maybe then the general public. So it's
the Piglet knows how to stay cool even in the heat.
(30:58):
All right, I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic. There's
a clock, there's a question mark. Sure, I've given away
a few roses. The world saw my heart break. That's
a dead giveaway to me that it's a bachelor persona
persona batchelord. I love. This person has a tattoo of
(31:22):
a heart with an ax. Um, there's a lollipop and
a fortune cookie. So the Reddit users, which I don't
read personally, but our producers apparently do, say that the
rumor is it's Colton Underwood. Uh do you know any
of those? Do you know if if he has like
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a tattoo of a heart with an ax, or if
there's a meaning between the lollipop and the fortune cookie
with him? I don't. I don't. It would be shocking
to me if it was Colton. But me too, I
don't think that people are like really, um, you know,
trying to get him on. It's a big show. Now
here's the question. Here's the question, though, Um, is it
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a guy or girl? Like? Can we tell from the
mask singer? You not always? Not always? I mean yes
and yes and no. But there's like some voices that
can kind of go either way, especially in like the suit,
I would say, like my gut instinct would be somebody
along the lines of a Shawn Low or an Andy Dorfman.
(32:29):
I got a lot of messages Ashley asking if it
was me, and there's there's a dead giveaway here. I
don't want to say it wasn't me, but let's just
be honest my singing if you have to be Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I actually just said it for me. Um. I'm not
trying to say that I'm good at singing, but yeah,
(32:50):
Ben Ben, I don't know that he'd be castid for this. Yeah,
I don't think i'd be the top choice for singing voices. Um,
it's interesting. So if you're not watching mass Singer, there's
somebody on there that looks like they've been a part
of the Bachelor franchise at some level at some time. Now,
there's a ton of rumors swirling. Nobody knows who it is.
The clues are fine. I don't know. I got to
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look into him a little bit more, but stay tuned
because the chances that somebody from the Bachelor world is
pretty high right now. Well, speaking of Bachelor World, we
did just hint that there's a big announcement with Jojoe
Fletcher and Jordan Rogers. It's probably not what you think,
but it's something exciting for them. Jojo and Jordan's over
the past couple of years have had a couple of
shows that they've hosted. Uh, they've they've done it together
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and I've watched a few and they do a great
job well. TBS sets dating series with Bachelor at a
couple Jojo Fletcher and Jordan Rogers. They're hosting it as
according to Hollywood Reporter, massive news for them. Ashley, what
is the show? Tell us about it? It's called The
Big Day and it's described as a social experiment that
takes play that takes on the relationship space with a twist.
(33:58):
It comes from the career leaders of Dating Naked and MTVS.
Are You the One Um. They say that it's going
to be following recent divorces as they search for romance
in paradise. The catch is that their exes will be
along for the journey, so over the course of several weeks,
I believe that it's ten couples divorce. Couples will be
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living in a tropical villa in Costa Rica to relearn
how to date they'll be looking for love with other
contestants in the house UM. The group will take part
in revealing relationship exercises you know, emphasize the X and
that UM and they're designed to help singles form connections,
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make peace with their former partners, and finally get over
issues holding them back from dating. Each episode will see
one person who isn't relationship material, like not ready for
a relationship be eliminated it And of course we're gonna
have to deal with jealous exes, which may try to
send their rival or perhaps their ex home, So that'll
(35:08):
be fun. It sounds like it's gonna be wild. I
hope Jojo and Jordan have some some professional help to
help walk. This is gonna be an interesting show. I'm
gonna tune in. Well. Emma the makeup artist is down
there doing JoJo's glam the entire month and she's been
looking incredible. I love following their both of their their
(35:28):
instagrams for all her looks for each day on set.
And it's speaking about looks, We've got to talk about
this Kelly hair thing. So Kelly basically she put her
hair into a candle and no, well, now she's got
hair of all sorts of layers. Have you you alluded
to doing this? Did you burn off your eyebrower eyelashes
(35:48):
at some point multiple times growing up? Yeah? You did.
It's stupid stuff like you have a campfire and you
put some like lighter fluid in and it gets hired
and you want it comes up with the grill. You know.
I have a grill right now that I have to
like light with a match because the starters out. And
when it does, it sometimes like if the lid has
been closed for too long, Um, then it pumps up
(36:08):
like it's I've burnt hair off my arms like it
And you have to remember, actually a side of my
life that you've never known. Um. I grew up with
a family who owned a fish fry business, and so
we grew up frying fish around the Midwest for a
living every weekend. And so like you're around hot grease
and you're frying fish for churches and schools, Like getting
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burnt is not uncommon. Um, so it will grow back luckily. Um,
but it's not. I mean, it's definitely not fun. The
worst part is a smell. Come on, we've all you
know smelled burnt hair. It's it's something something intense. You know,
my friend Naz burnt her lashes and her eyebrow off
a little bit on a date a couple months ago,
(36:53):
Like she was leaning over the candle and that that
happened and she was laughing hysterically, and then the guy
did not think it was funny and it was just
a very awkward situation and she never saw him again. Ah, well,
that's unfortunate. I mean, come on, hey, if everybody's done it, well,
it connects us. It's something we we share in common. Well,
(37:14):
Ashley to find all this thought. This was the last headline. Um,
as I read Jojo and Jordan's deal, it does I've
never done this before, but you know what my dream
job would be, hm, it would it would be hosting
a show not exactly like this, this one feels hard.
It would be like hosting The Bachelor, like, uh, the
(37:34):
Senior show where they're gonna be doing that. Like that
would be a dream because, like, can you imagine the
stories that these people have coming into the bachelor world
or to the dating world, Like the things they have
to kind of work through, the ability to sit there
beside him. Anyways, I'm pumped for Jojo and Jordan's uh
pumped for this. Uh, Ashley, you know what, Yes it's headlines.
(37:58):
Yes it's offseason, but there's a lot to talk about,
a lot that we had to go through. Um, we'll
be back next week with another episode of the Almost
Famous podcast. Um, we're gonna bring on some guests, We're
gonna do some in depths. Just stay tuned for some
really exciting stuff along the way. Ashley, thank you, thank
you for letting Jessica come on and talk about her
(38:18):
massive accomplishment. This is a big deal in her life
and I'm super confu so jealous honestly that she has
the skill to extract her own close commodones. Could she
teach me how to do that one time? Because like
my estettitions like, I'm not teaching you because you shouldn't
be doing it on your own. Yeah, I think she.
I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I feel
like all of my friends now, the guys too, when
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Jessica comes around, they're like, Hey, I have this thing
on my face, can you come look at it? Like
And it's kind of cool because I know it makes
her feel love and she's doing something awesome and she
loves what she's doing. She's probably so ecstatic right now.
Uh's great advertisement for her own business because her skin
looks incredible, that's right. And she's flying back here tonight
because tomorrow's celebrate my thirty second birthday. Come on now,
(39:02):
Oh my god, tomorrow your thirty two. So right now,
you and I sound like we're two years apart. Wow. Yeah,
isn't that wild? You sound so young at thirty one?
You know now? I know, I feel it. I feel good.
I just got back from a workout. I'm feeling fresh,
my joints are working. Thirties two is is going to
be a great year, Ashley, with all that I've been been, Okay,
(39:26):
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can Eddie hear here. We're not stopping. Even though it's
the official off season. It's feel like it's been a
while since we really had like an off season. Yes,
we haven't had an off season in a long time.
If you backtrack to this time last year, there was
Listening to Your Heart. Then a couple of weeks after
(00:22):
that ended, there was The Bachelor Greatest Hits, which went
on for like eight to ten weeks, and then we
had the Taja Claire season, and then we have Mad Season. Like,
there has not been any off season this year and
there really won't be again once we start with Katie
season in May. So let's take this time to do
in depths and do some more host chat and all that. Yeah,
(00:43):
I think that's a great idea. I think it's gonna
be awesome. We're gonna do a lot of headlines too.
I mean, there's a lot of things to talk about.
I feel I also actually feel like this is a
really terrific time, like any time is, but this is
a good time to kind of like slow down and
enter into the space of some of these conversations that
have been happening around Bachelor Nation and around the world,
like to really kind of dive into those and to
(01:04):
bring on some guests who can speak to them, speak
with them, speak with us, um, to kind of maybe
move into this next season, like better educated, better prepared
all of us. I think it's a great time for that. Actually, Um,
speaking of host chats, I know right now you have
some big moves going on in life. We've mentioned it
a few times, but but we've kind of waited. I've waited,
(01:26):
I guess to ask you as a friend, even you
and Jared now have officially moved. I I think from
what I'm seeing on Instagram, what's going on in your life? Like?
What have you bought a house? Are you close? Are
you where you move into? Like? Can you just give
us a rundown on where your life is at? Yeah?
Like I can't even remember where I talk about this
from where I don't, So so I forgive us if
(01:46):
we have kind of discussed it and I say the
same things again. Um, So basically I love if you
remember Ben in my vows, I literally promised Jared to
move to Rhode Island of England, um, and that's where
we would make our home, you know, for life that happened,
(02:06):
it's happening a little bit earlier, maybe a year or
two earlier than planned. But that's because over the past
year with COVID, we've really realized that we can do
so much of our work remotely. Like you know that
I used to go into the I Heart studio every week, um,
and then you'd be on zoom, you know, you'd be
on the screen there, um. But we really don't have
to do that anymore. Like how we record now is
(02:28):
just dandy, and so much of what we can do
with remote and we really just didn't feel like l
A would even get very very back to normal for
another year possibly, I mean, like maybe fall, we'll see.
So we're just like we're spending we're wasting so much
money on rent and our apartment on the West Coast
and would rather be with our family on the East coast.
(02:50):
So if we already spent two thirds of this year
on the past calendar year on the East coast, let's
just get rid of our apartment save that money, um
for the Well, what we did decide over December is
that we want to build a house. So we're going
to hopefully build a house within the next year, but
(03:13):
we have to find land to do that, and it's
really hard to look for lots or houses or anything
like that when you're not they're right. So we are
going to Rhode Island tomorrow. We spent the week with
my parents in Virginia, UM, while we waited for our
movers to bring this stuff. They arrive on Wednesday. We'll
(03:34):
get there tomorrow and Jared and I are just kind
of going to spend time with our families over the
next couple months. Maybe um, but may June, we are
gonna start, you know, looking for an apartment. We're just
going to rent for a year or two until our
hopeful house is ready to move in. So did you
(03:56):
drive across the country? How are you? Okay? Oh my gosh,
you know, props of those who do that. I actually
do think it would be kind of cool, but that's
not that was not in the cards for now. Would
you would you or have you ever driven across country? Uh? No,
I drove. I think the longest I've ever driven is
(04:18):
like Indiana to Denverse. That's not that far. No, no, no, no, no,
I've driven Indiana to Wyoming to Buffalo, Wyoming. So that's
twenty seven hours, So that's pretty long. That's really long.
The most I've ever done is like six and a
half seven and that was like Virginia to Syracuse is
about six sixteen and then Virginia to Rhode Island, which
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we've driven a couple of times this year and we'll
do again tomorrow is about six six and a half actually,
before we before we get moving on to headlines here, Uh,
what kind of house are you guys looking to build?
I mean a lot of people out there listening to this.
You know, Jessica and I are right now finished decorating
our house. We did a few things I did. I'm
doing a lot of stuff and she's doing a lot
(05:05):
of like the decoration. You know, Facebook Marketplace, huge winter
h for all things need. I will I will advertise
for them in a second. You know, we have some
great like we have Brooklyn in Uh you know, we
have yeah, Brooklyn in on here that it's great. She's
like we've we've really kind of like started to work
on this house. Um, what kind of like what kind
(05:27):
of house are you building? People? I think are very intrigued. Yeah,
I like pretty traditional colonial. But you know, I like
the very modern inside, the very like look, which is
a lot of white, a lot of neutrals. We really
like gray hardwood floor that's like are a weird must
have of ours. We like stone fireplaces. I want a
(05:50):
very traditional like New England style look on the outside. Um,
white paneling, black shutters, possibly a red door. I really
like those, um and know what they're called. But like,
you know how like on a third level or in
the attic you have those like three windows that kind
of like pop out a little bit from the roof. Sure, yeah,
(06:10):
I can envision. I have no clue what it's is
like a it's not a terrorist, Yeah, I know, you
know what I'm talking about. So like that look just
like traditional, like a modern colonial. That's super awesome. Actually,
I'm pumped for you. This will be a fun This
is gonna be a really fun season. You've done the
l a thing, You've done it well, you've crushed it
through the whole thing. Now it's time um for Rhode
(06:33):
Island and to make your first home with Jared. This
is really awesome, that's super cool. Well, um, you know
it's uh, it's a busy time in Uh, in the
in the world around us, there is a lot of
headlines uh going on In fact, um, this is kind
of what these podcasts are about. Let's break down going
(06:54):
on in Bachelor Nation right now. We're gonna come back
with bachelor headlines. M h, We're back with bachelor headlines.
Of course, we have our resident expert on all things headlines. Actually,
like Eddie here waiting. Uh. First headline is this Matt
(07:18):
James talks possibility of Rachel Kirknel reconciliation, says he's not
going to be dating this according to people. Yeah, so
you know, during after the final rows, I think it
was pretty obvious to all of us that there wasn't
much interest in reconciliation. Well, this week Matt was on
the Bill Simmons podcast and he said, I don't think again,
(07:41):
he said this, I don't think anybody's irredeemable. I think
that I think that for Rachel, there's a lot that
we didn't discuss that we probably should have talked about.
I probably should have asked her more clarifying questions, and
I'm giving her space to do that. However, he says
um that he's just so exhausted. He wants to take
(08:03):
a step back from everything and process what's been going on.
He just says that he's focused on getting back into
that meaningful work that he does in the community and
centering himself around projects that are going to elevate all
the work and he's been working on doing, um, you know,
all that stuff in this in New York City and
(08:23):
special interest stuff. He really just wants to kind of
focus on life outside reality TV. But he said that
he won't be dating for a while. That's the juicy.
The juicy quote here is that he, uh yeah, we'll
be dating for a while. I'm going to focus on work.
Hey good, I mean good for him if that's what
he feels is right and best for him. We hope
(08:43):
that he can heal come back stronger than ever. He's
a special dude. Well uh more Matt James headlines because
obviously this is all kind of circling around, like you're
getting the undertones of this that you know Matt is
is processing a lot right now. I don't want to
put words in his mouth that he's struggling, but he's
processing a lot. He has a tweet this week that says,
Google therapist need near me. Which I think, you know,
(09:07):
just kind of hints at that he's looking to talk
to somebody. But then in addition to that, which is
the headline, I'll read, Uh, we all kind of assumed
that he deleted his Instagram based on kind of, um
that tweet criticism. Yeah, but there's more to it here,
and I think it's really interesting. The headline reads, here's
why Matt James elited his Instagram picks after taxing Bachelor experiences.
(09:29):
According to E, So it's a source and they're exclusively
telling E that Matt wants a fresh start right now
that his Bachelor season has ended. He said, He's what
The source says that he's ready for new beginnings and
that is one of the reasons he cleared his Instagram.
He wants like a step back and refocus his priorities.
(09:50):
Says the show is toxic and taxing on his mental health,
and he's glad that it's over. Um he said. The
insider also says that between him and Rachel, it all
ended badly and there's no chance that they will ever
get back together. Matt truly loved Rachel and it was
devastating that he had to end their relationship. Well, we uh,
(10:12):
not a shock there right, based on what we saw
on after the Final Rose, but it does give clarity
to where they're at. Um some things that I think
we would have loved to have some some insight into.
Is the next headline. This was super interesting. Emmanuel Acho,
who stepped in for Chris Harrison and did after the
Final ros this this season, uh details Rachel Kirknell and
Michelle Young's unaired bachelor after the Final Rose conversation. This
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according to US Weekly. Yeah, so what happened is there
was a conversation between Michelle and Rachel that didn't get aired.
He said, you know, he was disappointed about that, but
he totally understands that there's time constraints, you know, on
on everything when it comes to television. So this had
(10:58):
a you know, be cut out Rachel. He was talking
to Michelle basically, and he said that he could sense
that she was still hurt that Rachel never reached out
to her personally once the photos surface, and given their
friendship on the show, she was just you know, she
was feeling off about that. And he said that it
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wasn't in the in the script, it wasn't planned at all,
but he figured that since there both in the building,
why not talk about it face to phase. So he
also said that, um, you know, the reconciliation between Rachel
and Matt wasn't gonna happen, so he wanted to have
like some sort of reconciliation take place on after the
final rows. So Rachel was willing and Michelle hadn't left
(11:43):
the building yet, so he brought the two of them
out to talk. He said that Michelle was just very upset,
but um, he said that, you know, Michelle was very upset, um,
but that they had a good conversation that you shared
an embrace of which we didn't see from Rachel and Matt. Uh.
And the two of them sat there, and he said
(12:05):
that he thought it was a nice it was a
beautiful moment that he could witness. He actually feels like
very grateful that he got to witness this. He said
it was the favorite moment that you didn't get to see, um,
but that it was very satisfying conversation. Basically, well, it's uh,
you know again, I think that there's a lot from
(12:26):
the season that we're gonna continue to talk about. Uh,
We're going to continue to lean into as the off
season happens. It's something that I think all of us
here are ready for, UM prepared for and also very
intrigued by. You know, how do we lean into this? Well,
so these conversations, these reconciling moments that Emmanuel acco is
expressing our our things that I hope can happen. UM.
(12:49):
Now there is more headlines around the Final Rows. This
is something that's interesting. We had Bree Springs in the
podcast uh just last week UM and this was not
brought up, but brief Springs. The headline reads brief Springs
was edited out of after the Final Rose episode. This
according to screen Ring. So, Bree was on Extra last
(13:12):
week and she mentioned there that she was extremely disappointed
because she felt like she had a great conversation with
Emmanuel about her journey and was able to kind of
wrap it up in a bow and got a closure
from it. And she wishes people could have seen her
reach that conclusion. How did she got mess in this?
And she was talking about getting um closure last week
(13:34):
with us. Oh it's fine. I don't know, but it's fine. UM.
She said that they were very important conversations that needed
to be had, but yeah, she was there and she
she said that she was. She revealed other things too.
Emmanuel a little bit lighter, Um said that she was
scared for her life when the a TV flipped over. Um,
And yeah, I mean that that's basically it, but it
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was in you're saying that something like something like this
would have been cut out, but that the thing is
that it was an hour long. You know, if there's
two hours long, then we would have been able to
see the conversations between Rachel and Michelle and Burrie. But
I think at the point after leaving that two hour
finale episode, having shown a breeze exit which happened the
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week before, it would have felt a little bit like
out of place. Yeah, so I don't remember, but after
the final rose is usually an hour or they usually
to Okay, well, remember how in the past couple of
years they've made them live, so like they kind of
throw back to the audience a little bit. So it's
it feels like it's kind of spread out over three hours,
(14:44):
but the actual after the final Wars conversation is usually
an hour. Alright, fair enough, Well, skipping ahead, we're gonna
start talking about a new bachelorette bachelorettees. I guess we
could say at some point, but right now, it's Katie
Thurston's time to be the bachelorette. Actually, this is interesting
to me because I remember back in the day the
(15:05):
contestants weren't even revealed, sometimes until after taping was even done. Like,
I remember when it was announced, and now they're announcing
him so early. I want to hear two things. One
is your thoughts on the headline. Too, is your thoughts
on that and why they're doing it. But the headline
reads Katie Thurston's potential bachelorette. Contestants revealed this according to
(15:27):
Entertainment Tonight. Okay, I'm gonna click this link and we're
gonna go through some pictures together. The oldest gap the
oldest age difference between Katie and like her oldest and
youngest guy is eleven years. Oh no, no, no no, okay,
so it's eleven years between the youngest guy on the
season supposedly and the oldest guy in the season. The
youngest guy is supposedly twenty five, which I love. Okay, great,
(15:51):
because you were twenty five on The Bachelor. I start
feeling like bachelorette. Sorry, I think that that's begin to
be a good time frame. To start going on and
then the oldest is thirty six. I also love that great.
Um Katie's thirty For you guys who don't know. And
(16:12):
to answer your question, I don't know. I don't know
that I have a preference on whether're like when the
photos are revealed. I think it's a little I think
it's kind of exciting to get the profiles up. I
guess the profile still go up towards, you know, the
beginning of the season. Right now, we're just getting photos,
(16:33):
so all we're doing is judging looks um and yeah,
we have no background, so I don't know. I don't
really care either way. I feel like I guess, if
I had to choose, I'd prefer not seeing the contestants
until just a week or two before the season starts.
Just kind of gets you hyped. I don't know, what
(16:53):
do you have a preference? I don't know. I mean
my preference is they should least wait until filming starts
so that the guys don't start messaging each other, like
it was kind of exciting to not know, right, I mean,
I'm are they are the guys already in filming right now? Yeah,
I think they start filming tonight. Actually, yeah, so they
could have seen this, um while they're still kind of
(17:15):
out there, and they could have started like meeting the guys.
And I like the surprise. I just like that, the
not knowing who was going to show up, not knowing
if you're you had a friend that was gonna be there.
I always thought, you know, there was gonna be a
friend of mine that randomly showed up and that I
didn't know about. But um, you know it's I don't
mind seeing the cast early. It gets us familiar with them.
We'll probably push this to the side until closer to
(17:37):
the season launch, like most people will. But it's a
good looking group of dudes. Um, I'm pumped to break
it down as we usually do. I think there's a
lot here. I'm hoping for a really good love story,
as we do every season. Um. But yeah, my preference
is that they would wait. I just think it's I
think it's kind of the fun and the surprise at all.
Also like it gives us something fun to talk about
(17:59):
when a season and approaches, Like they've been releasing these
pictures the day after our finale, Like once somebody's announced
as the as the lead, and I'm like okay, okay, okay,
Like just give me a couple of break and then
I'll get excited again when these photos come out. I'm
looking at the guys and it seems like ABC was
the ones who released these pictures. So, um, yeah, you
(18:20):
would hope. So if not, that's a massive leak. Um,
that'd be really weird. Yeah, it says ABC released the photos,
but they're not the photos, you know what I mean, Like,
they're not the ones. Ag. It's like the the classic
back drop, like good photos that make these dudes look good.
And so they they throw them in a in a
green screen that you know, makes them look all sorts
(18:41):
of weird. Hey, um, we'll speaking to this next season
coming up. Tasha Adams is speaking out. She's talking about
her her new gig as I don't know what we're
calling her the host now, I think that's what we're
gonna call her her and Caitlin Bristo Pataia. Yeah, yeah,
it's the same thing, Tasha Adams says of new back
to a hosting gig. My presence matters this according to CNN. Yeah,
(19:04):
they talked to CNN this week and Tasia said she's
so incredibly excited. She feels so honored to have been
given the opportunity. If I can provide any sense of
comfortability for anybody who's watching the show knowing that I'm there,
my presence matters, But that means that means the most
to me, So she said. She said that she found
(19:28):
such an amazing love on this journey and if she
could be a mentor for Katie to do the same, um,
that's what she's there for, and she's excited to have
any helping hand in that matter. Tasia continued to say
that did I ever think that this is where I
would be and where my journey would end up? Absolutely not,
But it feels so right, and I truly feel like
(19:48):
I should be here, and I truly feel like I
can help Katie on this journey. Well, we're excited to
see how that plays out. It's going to be super
interesting to have both Tatia and Haitln guiding uh Katie
along the way. Uh. And I do I think both
those women matter great deal to anybody to come in
(20:09):
contact with terrific people. Uh. And I'm excited to see
a playoff. Hey, do we know side note here? Do
we know if Jason is or um if Clarkey is uh,
are are they quarantining with the women? Jason definitely is.
And I want to know how they got their dogs
over there, because like they've stopped with E. S A
(20:30):
Dogs on airlines, which it's a whole other topic, but
I want to know how the dogs got there. Jason
had to drive the dogs. He's definitely there. Uh. And
then it doesn't look like Clarkey is there with her.
I'm sure he will be at some point. Jason is
two months now. Jason has a lot of stuff going
on right his his his website, and his Instagram restart
(20:53):
is incredible. It's something that I admire and follow. But
he's like the best hype man ever for Kaylin, Like
that dude quarantine for Dance with the Stars. He's quarantining
for her role. I mean, this is gonna be a
long quarantine. Like I mean, I'm sure once you know
he quarantines, he can get out and move about the
resort and kind of do his thing and walk the
dogs and enjoy it. But like this is he's the best.
(21:17):
He's getting like best boyfriend award right now. Yeah, he's
crushing it. He's quite something. Luckily he can work from
most you know, most quarantine spots. But we know that
was zach he he and his the rehab center. He
probably has to be there in person more often. Sure
he'll be making a visit. Fair enough. Well, Um, last
(21:38):
week we had a headline that we kind of skimmed over,
but just like briefly talked about, we said Claire Crawley
and Dale Moss were like no longer like it wasn't
gonna work out. That was a headline that we read.
It was it was the information that was pasted to us. Um.
Most people were in agreement to this. We didn't get
a lot of we didn't get any backlash on it.
But as the week played out, we realized that we
(21:59):
were wrong. Everybody was wrong. But there's more to this
story than we see. Ashley. Is a couple of headlines
here about Clariondale that we're gonna run through. We're gonna
do him step by step. The first one is Claire
Crawley and Dale Moss are celebrating her birthday. This according
to Entertainment Tonight. YEP, she turned forty this week and
(22:20):
she spent it with Dale in New York and there
are pictures of the two of them kissing with masks on,
you know, like can you e've done that? Like Eskimo
kisses like a little like those things. Yeah. Yeah, So
there's a picture of floating out there very easy. Just
type in Claire and Dale mass kiss and it will
come up and they look very cute. They were, you know,
(22:43):
and having a little stroll paparazzi cottum um. And then
there's another headline talking about them working on things that
went wrong. So the things that apparently gone wrong in
the past include I think it's it's not him not
being ready for marriage and kids. So I don't know
(23:04):
like how that's gonna work, right, Like if that was
the main issue, then uh maybe maybe Claire's like, Okay,
I am down to wait a little bit longer. Who knows.
We gotta get some insight into this obviously, Uh who
you know, who knows what the next week we'll play
(23:25):
out with the two of them, but we will, we
will continue to dig in. We have a whole team
on it. I mean they are researching this relationship, figuring
out what's going on with Claire in Dale, but they
are together in New York celebrating her birthday. Um, smiling
beneath the masks, which I guess you can tell because
they're smiling with their eyes. Hey, uh, Ashley, let's take
(23:46):
a break here. When we come back, we have some
really interesting headlines. They're gonna We're gonna cover Kelly and Peter.
We're also going to uh cover this upcoming season of
The Bachelorette. In addition to that, we're gonna talk about
the Max Singer, which has been getting a lot of headlines,
and Bachelor Nation. And finally, we're gonna end with a
(24:06):
major headline about Joe Joe Fletcher and Jordan's Rogers. We'll
be back with the almost famous podcast. All right, now,
we're gonna dive into the next Bachelor relationship that has
(24:27):
officially ended this one. They're not back together, but Kelly
Flannagan is speaking out for one of the first times ever.
Kelly Flanagan says there were non negotiable factors that went
into Peter Weber split dis according to people, Okay, so
all unraveled on New Year's Eve. Uh, they decided they
(24:49):
decided to move to New York City together, right, Remember
how they were supposed to do that and then the
announce their split on New Year's Eve. Well, they tried
to mend their relationship once more in February. I think
that was around a Super Bowl time, but now they're
calling it quits for good. Kelly said, on her end,
there were just a lot of non negotiables in the
relationship that essentially we're seeming to be worked on or
(25:13):
saying that they were going to be worked on or change,
and actions kind of speak louder than words. She said,
if there is something that I saw as disrespectful in
a relationship, I would speak on it. I was pretty vocal.
I think communication is huge in a relationship, and there
were things that essentially I would be like, hey, look
this makes me feel like and this makes me feel
(25:35):
this way, um, and they really weren't changing. She said
that he essentially tried to get back together and was
trying to work on things, and she was very hesitant,
and he was telling who he's she's getting juicy here.
He was telling her things like I love you and
I want to get back together with you again. And
(25:56):
that happened around Valentine's Day. But that is all so
around the week where they decided to call it quits
year for sure. Okay, So guys, they broke up on
New Year's weekend. They try to rekindle things. He was
saying he was working on things. She didn't really see
the the work in progress. There wasn't really no improvement,
(26:16):
and they really called it quits for real, for real
around Valentine's Day. Well, to top it off, the next headline,
I mean, it sounds like Kelly speaking out. It sounds
like there there's respect for each other, they're both moving forward,
and then on top of it, Kelly flanning and lights
her hair on fire. It was like, not funny, but
like the progression of things was funny. Yeah, what's going
(26:39):
on there? Basically, Like Blake just says that, you know,
he's friends with both of them. She he really likes
Kelly met her in person over the Super Bowl where
they had that reunion. Um, but and then they still
care about each other. You just can't turn off those feelings, right.
But whether they get back together or not, he doesn't
(26:59):
really know. He just knows that they're they're in pretty
good terms. Well, um yeah, so hair on fire, hair
on fire. Um, hey, big news right now hitting the
waves here as we're talking. Jessica Clark, my fiance right now.
Was in a test as we were recording this to
find to find out if she passed to become an
(27:21):
official licensed estetician. She just called me. I ignored it,
which is never a good thing to do. I'm gonna
call her back and I'm gonna give us an up
to date headline if she passed. If she didn't pass,
this is gonna be awkward and we'll work through it. Hello, honey,
uh you are on the almost famous podcast. How did
it go? Oh amazing? We knew it, we knew it,
(27:47):
We had zero doubt. I love you, your official licensed
estetician now. Uh On. For anybody out there listening who
lives in Denver and is looking for an estetician, where
can they find you here in the next six months? Well,
now I can officially say I am opening a skin
clinic on South Pearl Street and it's called Just Skin
(28:11):
din a Just Skin den If you are looking in
Denver for an estetition, Jessica Clark is your girl. She
is uh carrying with her soul, her mind, and her hands.
I think that's important in an aestetition. Will hey, I
will call you back later on. Thanks for the update. Congrats,
jazz I wish that you could fly and extract my
(28:35):
pores at any time. Well, Ashley, I think she's gonna
take you up on that. Love you Hun will talk
to you later. Okay, it's a big deal, guys, it's
a big deal. It's a big moment, huge moment hitting
right now as we talk. That's that's just incredible, way, Ashley.
As we're off topic from the Bachelor for a second,
(28:56):
there is another headline I want to read. Um, this
one doesn't have to do with hair burning. That doesn't
have to do with hair burning at all. I mean,
that's that's unfortunate at every level. But you know who
hasn't burned off their eyelashes eyebrows at some point. Um.
I just saw this today and I know it's a
popular show on on television, maybe the most popular ever. Well,
(29:21):
I found out that Pete Davidson is rumored to be
dating the girl from Bridger Tin that the lead girl.
This really this, according to TMZ, this is This is
a massive headline that I think most people will be
interested in, and we might be able to break it
sooner than most if it is true. Actually, what does
that do for your heart? Delightful? What a coupling. I'm
(29:48):
so into that. I mean, I love Pete Davidson, like
he just gets our our generation. I feel like he
is so funny. I love his personality. I could listen
to him talk forever, and I just things she's so beautiful.
I don't know much about her personality, but I like it.
I really like it. And how funny that like like
(30:09):
the like the sort of obnoxious funny guy is going
to be like this woman who's just like so pristine
and proper sy thing. Yeah, it's a great match. Well, hey,
sorry to do railists there. Um, Ashley, we're kind of
gonna stay away from the Bachelor for just a second,
but there's there's a tie in here. Um, the mass
Singer is out. The latest clues are kind of rumored. Now, now, Ashley,
(30:34):
what's going on because they think it's somebody from the Bachelor.
Who could it be? Okay, so it says this is
the Piglets clues And I'm really gonna have to start
watching the mass Singer now to figure out who this
is because I think you and I would know based
on their voice. Maybe then the general public. So it's
the Piglet knows how to stay cool even in the heat.
(30:58):
All right, I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic. There's
a clock, there's a question mark. Sure, I've given away
a few roses. The world saw my heart break. That's
a dead giveaway to me that it's a bachelor persona
persona batchelord. I love. This person has a tattoo of
(31:22):
a heart with an ax. Um, there's a lollipop and
a fortune cookie. So the Reddit users, which I don't
read personally, but our producers apparently do, say that the
rumor is it's Colton Underwood. Uh do you know any
of those? Do you know if if he has like
(31:44):
a tattoo of a heart with an ax, or if
there's a meaning between the lollipop and the fortune cookie
with him? I don't. I don't. It would be shocking
to me if it was Colton. But me too, I
don't think that people are like really, um, you know,
trying to get him on. It's a big show. Now
here's the question. Here's the question, though, Um, is it
(32:06):
a guy or girl? Like? Can we tell from the
mask singer? You not always? Not always? I mean yes
and yes and no. But there's like some voices that
can kind of go either way, especially in like the suit,
I would say, like my gut instinct would be somebody
along the lines of a Shawn Low or an Andy Dorfman.
(32:29):
I got a lot of messages Ashley asking if it
was me, and there's there's a dead giveaway here. I
don't want to say it wasn't me, but let's just
be honest my singing if you have to be Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I actually just said it for me. Um. I'm not
trying to say that I'm good at singing, but yeah,
(32:50):
Ben Ben, I don't know that he'd be castid for this. Yeah,
I don't think i'd be the top choice for singing voices. Um,
it's interesting. So if you're not watching mass Singer, there's
somebody on there that looks like they've been a part
of the Bachelor franchise at some level at some time. Now,
there's a ton of rumors swirling. Nobody knows who it is.
The clues are fine. I don't know. I got to
(33:12):
look into him a little bit more, but stay tuned
because the chances that somebody from the Bachelor world is
pretty high right now. Well, speaking of Bachelor World, we
did just hint that there's a big announcement with Jojoe
Fletcher and Jordan Rogers. It's probably not what you think,
but it's something exciting for them. Jojo and Jordan's over
the past couple of years have had a couple of
shows that they've hosted. Uh, they've they've done it together
(33:35):
and I've watched a few and they do a great
job well. TBS sets dating series with Bachelor at a
couple Jojo Fletcher and Jordan Rogers. They're hosting it as
according to Hollywood Reporter, massive news for them. Ashley, what
is the show? Tell us about it? It's called The
Big Day and it's described as a social experiment that
takes play that takes on the relationship space with a twist.
(33:58):
It comes from the career leaders of Dating Naked and MTVS.
Are You the One Um. They say that it's going
to be following recent divorces as they search for romance
in paradise. The catch is that their exes will be
along for the journey, so over the course of several weeks,
I believe that it's ten couples divorce. Couples will be
(34:22):
living in a tropical villa in Costa Rica to relearn
how to date they'll be looking for love with other
contestants in the house UM. The group will take part
in revealing relationship exercises you know, emphasize the X and
that UM and they're designed to help singles form connections,
(34:45):
make peace with their former partners, and finally get over
issues holding them back from dating. Each episode will see
one person who isn't relationship material, like not ready for
a relationship be eliminated it And of course we're gonna
have to deal with jealous exes, which may try to
send their rival or perhaps their ex home, So that'll
(35:08):
be fun. It sounds like it's gonna be wild. I
hope Jojo and Jordan have some some professional help to
help walk. This is gonna be an interesting show. I'm
gonna tune in. Well. Emma the makeup artist is down
there doing JoJo's glam the entire month and she's been
looking incredible. I love following their both of their their
(35:28):
instagrams for all her looks for each day on set.
And it's speaking about looks, We've got to talk about
this Kelly hair thing. So Kelly basically she put her
hair into a candle and no, well, now she's got
hair of all sorts of layers. Have you you alluded
to doing this? Did you burn off your eyebrower eyelashes
(35:48):
at some point multiple times growing up? Yeah? You did.
It's stupid stuff like you have a campfire and you
put some like lighter fluid in and it gets hired
and you want it comes up with the grill. You know.
I have a grill right now that I have to
like light with a match because the starters out. And
when it does, it sometimes like if the lid has
been closed for too long, Um, then it pumps up
(36:08):
like it's I've burnt hair off my arms like it
And you have to remember, actually a side of my
life that you've never known. Um. I grew up with
a family who owned a fish fry business, and so
we grew up frying fish around the Midwest for a
living every weekend. And so like you're around hot grease
and you're frying fish for churches and schools, Like getting
(36:30):
burnt is not uncommon. Um, so it will grow back luckily. Um,
but it's not. I mean, it's definitely not fun. The
worst part is a smell. Come on, we've all you
know smelled burnt hair. It's it's something something intense. You know,
my friend Naz burnt her lashes and her eyebrow off
a little bit on a date a couple months ago,
(36:53):
Like she was leaning over the candle and that that
happened and she was laughing hysterically, and then the guy
did not think it was funny and it was just
a very awkward situation and she never saw him again. Ah, well,
that's unfortunate. I mean, come on, hey, if everybody's done it, well,
it connects us. It's something we we share in common. Well,
(37:14):
Ashley to find all this thought. This was the last headline. Um,
as I read Jojo and Jordan's deal, it does I've
never done this before, but you know what my dream
job would be, hm, it would it would be hosting
a show not exactly like this, this one feels hard.
It would be like hosting The Bachelor, like, uh, the
(37:34):
Senior show where they're gonna be doing that. Like that
would be a dream because, like, can you imagine the
stories that these people have coming into the bachelor world
or to the dating world, Like the things they have
to kind of work through, the ability to sit there
beside him. Anyways, I'm pumped for Jojo and Jordan's uh
pumped for this. Uh, Ashley, you know what, Yes it's headlines.
(37:58):
Yes it's offseason, but there's a lot to talk about,
a lot that we had to go through. Um, we'll
be back next week with another episode of the Almost
Famous podcast. Um, we're gonna bring on some guests, We're
gonna do some in depths. Just stay tuned for some
really exciting stuff along the way. Ashley, thank you, thank
you for letting Jessica come on and talk about her
(38:18):
massive accomplishment. This is a big deal in her life
and I'm super confu so jealous honestly that she has
the skill to extract her own close commodones. Could she
teach me how to do that one time? Because like
my estettitions like, I'm not teaching you because you shouldn't
be doing it on your own. Yeah, I think she.
I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I feel
like all of my friends now, the guys too, when
(38:40):
Jessica comes around, they're like, Hey, I have this thing
on my face, can you come look at it? Like
And it's kind of cool because I know it makes
her feel love and she's doing something awesome and she
loves what she's doing. She's probably so ecstatic right now.
Uh's great advertisement for her own business because her skin
looks incredible, that's right. And she's flying back here tonight
because tomorrow's celebrate my thirty second birthday. Come on now,
(39:02):
Oh my god, tomorrow your thirty two. So right now,
you and I sound like we're two years apart. Wow. Yeah,
isn't that wild? You sound so young at thirty one?
You know now? I know, I feel it. I feel good.
I just got back from a workout. I'm feeling fresh,
my joints are working. Thirties two is is going to
be a great year, Ashley, with all that I've been been, Okay,
(39:26):
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