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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Almost Famous podcast. We have a very special episode
today some stars of the show, some stars of the
last episode. When I say stars of the show, I
mean the show in general, and then also the last episode.
Jason and Molly, welcome to podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's really nice of you to call us stars. Yeah,
I don't think we are.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And it's also it's also the first time they asked
us to be on the show instead of you.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Yeah, so like.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I haven't been on the show, I bet in five years,
six years, well other than like a wet that wedding,
but I yeah, I don't. I. I actually was just
doing a podcast the other day with a former alumni
and they said, are you ever bummed that you don't
get asked to go on the show more? And I said,
there's like small times in my life I'm like, I'd
love to go back and do that, and then most
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of the time I'm like, I don't even remember that
being an option.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Yeah, well, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I think the only reason we got back is because
Jason erlik right, one of the producers. Yeah, hey is
back in the back in the heads or one of
the head seats, and he's the only one that knows us.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You know, Jason Erlick was the head producer on a
show that about ten people watched called Ben and Lauren
Happily ever After after.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
My Oh my god, he was your producer.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Head producer. That's that was his first round, like go
back into the Bachelor world once he came back from
being gone for so long.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
But he's a good dude.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I really uh Okay, So you were obviously on this
last episode, but let's catch up with the two of you,
because we really didn't get to during this episode. The
two of you are obviously living in Seattle, which makes
sense on why you were on this show specifically, but life, Like,
are you big Bachelor fans still? Is this still a
part of your life?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Why are you?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean we I Jason never watches the show? Yeah, exactly,
like not at all. He has removed himself from that world.
I have not watched the show. It was probably I
went ten years without seeing it, and then we went
to the Golden Wedding and I talked with Joey at
the wedding. He's like, you've got to give this season
a chance. So then I watched his season and I
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like fell in love with the show again, honestly, like
taking a ten year hiatus and coming back, and his
was a great comeback season because it was amazing. So
now I watched his season and I've always been watching.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
This season time out what I love my wife, but
she's lying, what like the show? And she's only watching
it now because Riley our daughters. Riley's into it and
that's mommy daughter time.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
And Riley might come down here now, But that's why
you're watching it.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, that's true. Like the other night, maybe two weeks ago,
I was like, I don't want to watch it. We'll
like save it for another day. I mean it's a
lot of it's a big time to me, and Riley's like, no,
we have to watch. I need to see who gets
kicked off.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well, you know the best part about watching the show,
like when you're on it, is they give you that
non commercial version. Yeah, so cut it down from two
hours so like one thirty Yeah, which you get thirty
minutes of your life back.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Trust me, it's been about eight years of that and
I don't know what my life would look like if
it wasn't for that. Yeah, now, okay, that actually brings
up something I'm curious about, and I don't I don't know.
There's not many This is going to sound awful towards
you too, I don't mean it that way. There's not
many people from the show that have kids now able
to watch it like that are getting into that age.
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So I've never asked this question. I'm actually very curious.
What is it like now having a daughter who's watching this,
who's intrigued by it, and then I have a thousand
follow up questions on that.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, it even goes beyond that. There's a college age kid.
They actually watched it with us last night and watched
the during COVID, watched our season and saw how double.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Were back here he had been. He had all of
his friends over every night during COVID and they would
watch our season down and I would hide in our
bedroom because it was the most humiliating thing ever. So
I'm glad we got that done. Riley has zero desire
to watch our season. Even seeing the the little flashback
they do in the episode from last night, she freaked out.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
She was like, oh my god, she's also at that
age where like she sees somebody kiss and literally every
time somebody kisses on the show, she's.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Like, yeah, So would you if say she did come
say hey, I really want to watch your season, would
you watch it with her?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Would you even allow her to watch it teenager?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Maybe maybe when she's a little bit older. I mean,
she knows kind of the gist. She knows how the
show goes, and she kind of knows how our ending went,
like I wanted to be sure now that she's getting
into it, that I explained you know, Daddy didn't pick
me if they nixed somebody else. And so she knows
all of that, but that she has a desire to
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watch our season.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
She would when her when she's old enough, with her
teenage friends, they'll all want to Like Ted didn't want
to watch you when he was eleven. He didn't want
to watch until he was like fifteen or sixteen, and
he's a guy that doesn't like the show.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We'll have to let her watch it eventually.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It feels like to me from an now, satays like
I would be so anxious, like I won't allow Jess
to watch it.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
My wife, like she season.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
She hasn't probably ever watched a season of the I
don't think she's watched more than two episodes.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I mean, I've seen Jason season before when he was
on the Bacheorette. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, she would never. There's more. My wife is very sensitive,
and so I do think it would like not be
a healthy thing. I think she could laugh at a lot,
but there'd also be moments where she's like, I don't
want to I didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Need to say yeah, yeah totally, and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So like for me, it would be a very nerve
wracking experience. I think I would be like, yeah, you
can watch it, but you're you know this, you might
see us differently, which I don't, you know, but that's
healthy for any kid. I guess at some point they
have to realize their parents aren't perfect. I don't know
if you're if Riley's areet.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I was most panished is perfect. When I was watching it.
I was most panicked because like I was like, what
if these boys him and his friends like someone better
on the show, you know, but like they're stuck with me.
But that's not how it went at all. They were like,
you're the goat, You're amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Some people like like people that we met that are teenagers.
They call her the goat and that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But no, you take it in, accept it, just accept it,
feel it. I mean, how many times in our life
now do we actually get to feel really good about ourselves,
Like if that's that's something to Michael.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Jordan, Tom Brady and.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Makes us feel an.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Actual goat, it really helps us out.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Okay, so the kids are watching the show now, but
obviously during this episode we see the two of you
in a recording studio. You were really I don't know
how many people know this. You were to the really
first podcast breaking down the Bachelor back in the day
or talking about the show. Yeah, so how much of
that is still a part of your life? I mean,
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was this your full time job to be, you know,
to go in the studio and do this love on
air show.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
But we well, initially talk, sure, she lets me talk sometimes,
so well, initially somebody from the local radio station said, hey,
this is.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
What yours is.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They're like, hey, the future of radio is this podcast.
We're going to host a podcast for you. You guys
can do whatever you want. And it was once a
week and it was really easy.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Recapped the show.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, similar, right, But it was just the two of
us and really was a baby, yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Baby, a baby, and so it was super fun. It
was super easy.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
But then Mollie got hired as a radio host locally,
so we had to cut that off because of that,
because it was kind of what's the right word, it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Was competing radio station. Meeting your podcast was with one station,
and then my job was with iHeart. I was so
Bender and that you see on the show. Him and
I did the morning show on Kiss FM here locally
and I was at that station for seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And we met when we filmed our season of The
Bachelor as a fake radio show date with Bender hosting
it back.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Well, where was it twenty nine to ten?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, So the show that you see on last night
episode is.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's not a real show, right noe.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
All the contestants thought it was real.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
They did, but Bender and Jewbile are on different radio shows.
I don't work in radio anymore, so it was just
put together for last night's episode.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It'd actually been a very interesting concept if you could
get people to come in there and really like hash
out their love issues but also their their story and
people want to listen. It's kind of like, what is
it Delilah? You know Delilah like local that night? Oh really, all.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
These competition back in the day.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, I kind of loved Delilah. Her voice is very soothing. Yeah,
it's very nice. Are you still in radio.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Molly, No, I stopped during COVID, stopped doing radio. I
loved it while I did it, but I was getting
a little burnt out, like four o'clock in the morning
getting up every day with kids. It's tricky.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
We had needed her to sell houses with them.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now I work with Jason. We work together in real estate,
so yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
How is that going?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It actually really well? Honestly, Jason's been doing it for
eleven years. Yeah, I've been doing it for about three
and a half.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We work from separate locations so that we can have
some separation. Jason goes to his office. I work from
home so that we can at least have a normal
conversation at night versus being together all day long. But
it's been great. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
We were both good at different things, like I handle
the contracts and the client stuff, where she makes all
the houses look really pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean that's a good team. But Jason, when
you were the Bachelor. Were you in real estate then?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I wish I was. That would have been awesome.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, I was kind of doing some financial services type stuff, right,
And I think if I can go back and like
I always thought I was going to get into real estate,
but no, I wasn't back then.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But the so some of the people we've seen it
with a few, like recent bachelors specifically, they kind of
made the switch to real estate post show.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I wonder, what's funny. I just connected with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, so I just connected with Clayton recently because we
had some mutual stuff going on in real estate, and
I was like, how long have you been.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
In it for it? He's like just a year.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
So I think there is a piece of like cause
I think from the outside, you're like, oh, real estate's easy.
You know, all you need to is need people, meet people,
and you can make a lot of money, which is
a lot harder than that. So I the perspective is like, hey,
I'll get my license and everybody knows who I am now.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
But like Ari's in it, Yeah, we've.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Done like we helped Ari's, we helped uh Lauren's parents
Lawren's parents mean, yeah, yeah, so it is kind of cool,
like especially for people who are Bachelor fans, and if
they want to work with people that are in the
same like business and they get to know all of us.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I think people get a kick out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, for sure, but that's not I mean, is that
why you made the switch over to real estate, is
because you thought, Hey, people know me, they'll want to
work with me.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
No, it's it's more more of like real estate's just
a really good business to be in in general. Like
if you're selling something, right, and the most important thing
in your life is something you're talking about all the time,
or the most expensive thing or the most valuable thing
in your life. So if you're sitting at a coffee shop,
people are always talking about like how do I pay
my house?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Do you know a landscaper?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And if you can become the hub of those conversations,
it really becomes valuable. And we've also owned a bunch
of houses, right, I'm all can making pretty.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You can come here and do that. You can see
my office. It's not thank you, it's a lot of
things from my life that have been placed on a
shelf behind me. Yeah, I sell coffee for a living.
I'm imagining the margins on a house. Uh a little easier.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Do we all those same shelves?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
We have upstairs.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah you know how hard they are to set together?
For my Kia, they were not easy. So okay, so
the two of you are working now together. That's a
big update in life. And then let's just kind of
tease here. How in the world did you end up
on the show, because, as you've now mentioned, Molly, you're
watching the show with Riley Jason. You're not really watching
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the show much anymore or ever. Yea, ever ever's probably
a fair word to say. So you get a phone
call from Jason who says, well, you know, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
What actually is really funny. You remember how he called.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So he calls initially and he's like, so, I hear
you and Molly are not doing well. And we granted
we had just seen him at the Golden.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's always a great intro. Yeah, I've heard through the
great friend that you and your wife are struggling, but
he knows that's not true.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You just saw him at the wedding. So he's like,
I hear you guys aren't doing well, and we're looking for.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
The next Golden Bachelor you consider, and like, granted, I
mean I'm old, but those guys are twenty five years
older than me. And I was like, dude, what the
hell are you talking about? And he's like, okay, So
since that's a no, would you guys consider hosting a
dat and Seattle? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Like he kind of set me up, and of course
like that kind of stuff's fun. We haven't done it
for a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's been interesting. Like when we got invited to the
Golden Wedding, I was pretty hesitant. I have kind of
put this chapter behind me, and I feel like I'm
not We're not involved in that world anymore. There's there's
new fresh young blood out.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
There that are half my age.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, and I just even at that wedding, I felt
really like an outsider. So I did have a good time.
It was great seeing people like we've known you. It's
good seeing people like that again, you know. But I'm
glad that helped me get my feet wet a little bit.
So then when he did Jason did call Eric and say,
do you guys want to host a date? It was like, Okay,
I just did this, I can do it. Again, it's okay,
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let's do it.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And I would say probably like our at this point
in our life, it's not that our friends and even
our clients and people around us, they really get a
kick out of it. They're like, oh my god, you
guys are really on the show. Yeah, and it wasn't
it's black and white anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I do think the Golden
makes sense for all of us to go back to
because I do think that the people watch the Golden Show,
at least for that last season, were people who watched
it twenty twenty five years ago. Like it's a very similar,
you know group. You know, this this new blood that's
coming through these new seasons. I think it is a
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different group that's watching. I don't think you have the
same demographics. And so, you know, the Golden era of
the Bachelor was the beginning, you know, first few seasons.
Do you guys remember what happened at the Golden wedding
with me and Jason with you two? Did I ever
tell you this?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's a big deal. Okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So you know, I haven't been on the show, as
I mentioned, in five years I'm excited to be there.
There's there's a lot of people I don't know producer wise,
like most of them are you know, have come and
gone since my time on the show. And it is
We're all dressed up, ready to go into the wedding,
and they're telling me the stuff I'm going to be doing,
like you know, you're going to go talk to the
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red carpet people and all this stuff. So I'm getting
prepp in the beforehand though, we need you to go
take your photos, like your pre wedding photos. I said, okay.
So I walk over there and I'm standing there and
taking photos, take a pickup pictures, and they go, hey, Jason,
can you put your face? Can you put your chin down?
I said, Jason. They go, yeah, Mesnik, And You're like,
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I'm damn old, and I said, I bet Jason fifteen
years older than me.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I was already feeling a little awkward at this thing.
I already feel like I don't belong now. The producers
of the show don't even know what my name is.
They have no clue who I am. So I'll never
forget that. I also will never forget Jason, that you
were you came to the house when I was the Bachelor,
and I really appreciated that too.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah. Oh yeah, Well we took shots, right, and.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
We took shots together. Was it kind of loose me up?
And the two of you came. I believe it was
for Bachelor Live on stage in Seattle. I got to
see you.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, I stopped in for that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So you have had a big piece in my journey. Yeah,
including getting the two of us confused, which I take
as a compliment because you're a very good looking man, Jason.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
It's like looking in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Thanks to Jason and Molly for coming on talking a
little bit about this episode a lot, a bit about
where their lives are at today. They tease some of
the details of what they saw during this day, but
they're coming back to talk to us and even more
detail about this episode as we break down this episode
of gen season of the bachelore episodes. Stay tuned for
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this episode breakdown with Jason and Molly.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
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