July 24, 2025 • 35 mins
Ashley is joined by her pal Jade Roper Tolbert to break down the latest Bachelor Nation headlines and take us behind the scenes of the new Backstreet Boys show at the Las Vegas Sphere!
Ashley and Jade share their reactions to the latest episodes of Bachelor in Paradise, and we hear their shocking theory about the true motive of the Goldens on the beach.
What's trending? Bachelor alums hosting dating shows - and one has Ashley feeling major FOMO!
And, we have an update on the fate of our next Golden Bachelor, Mel Owens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. Today
I am joined by one of my best friends, Jade Tolbert.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hey Dreed. Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So we thought that'd be fun since Ben couldn't be
on the pod today, to have you come on, because
we just had a great, really impromptu week at the
Backshe Boys concert in Vegas at the Sphere.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It was the best time.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We stayed at the Waldorf Astoria and Jade had texted
me legit like six days before I left, and she
was like, Hey, we should do a girl's trip to
Vegas for Backshoop Boys. I was like, well, I actually
am going on to the Sunday show and I think
I might have an extra ticket and she was like,
(00:48):
let me ask Tanner if he'll watch the kids for
like twenty four hours, and we made it happen.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So it was very serendipitous because I really could to go,
and I was like, the only friend I know who
would be like down to do that with me, so
like impulsively it would be you and and then You're
so perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It really couldn't be happier.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
There would have been no better person to come and
it was her first Backs Boys concert, so oh jeez,
you'll never be able to go to see him on
tour after seeing them at the Sphere. Even though it's
wonderful at all times. You guys, this was the nuttiest
concert I've ever seen in my life. It was pure
sensory candy. Your eyes, your brain was just on so
(01:29):
much serotonin.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They were.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
They literally haven't changed as performers, if not gotten better
through the years, because I think back when I saw them,
I guess like during my college years, like early twenty tens.
They were great and live, but sometimes you were like, oh,
it's not what it used to be. And now I
feel like it's two thousand and one again. They sound great.
(01:57):
The acoustics in the Sphere are believable. You like feel
the music in your body, but not in the way
that you normally would at a concert, like it's crystal clear.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Think I told you. Somebody messaged me that there's sixty
seven thousand speakers in the Sphere, including one in every
single seat, So it did. It felt like they were
singing right next to you. It was so crystal clear.
They sounded amazing, like.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Even your chairs vibrated with.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Like the visuals and stuff. It was like, I don't know,
it was like being on a two hour ride.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was incredible us. It was a themed ride. The
theme was the Back Shape Boys. It felt like we
were in a Universal Studios ride. And actually the visuals
were better than what you usually would find out a
Universal Studios.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Right when you.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Said that you felt like you were zeen on, I'm like,
that was what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
We went to outer space. Yes, it was too cool.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
We actually through The Bachelor, I met their manager Jen.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
She is the greatest. She is a power.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
This woman manages like the biggest boy band in the
world and has just kept them going at this amazing level,
especially over the past decade, which she's been mostly within
the past decade. And so she got us to do
their little meet and greet beforehand. They basically have a
friends in a family room where the guys, you know,
(03:21):
if they choose come and hang out with about I
don't know how many people were in there, about one hundred,
maybe a little less yeah, maybe a little less yeah.
And so we got to say hi to Nick, we
got to say hi. Howie gave us a very private,
like just a very personal moment.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He was so freaking sweet.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He remembered details about me and Nas because we also
went with Nas Perez, who was one of our Bachelor producers.
That's how I became really good friends with her back
in Bachelor in Paradise season two. And then Jared was there,
so it was truly a BP two reunion at the
actual Boys and it was so great.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hollie was so nice. I just have to say, I
could not believe how warm he was. Yeah, Like he
was just so inviting and so kind, so warm. His
family was the sweetest. Yeah, his wife has always been
really nice. Yeah, they were so sweet. It just made
me and Stellia just be like I could I don't know,
you just don't know what to expect from people who
have like Megastarta.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm like, they've been worldwide known, right.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And this guy is just sitting there talking to us
like I don't know, like we were friends. I mean,
you know him, but I don't know him. And it
was just like it was really like a I don't know,
it was a moment for me. I was like, Hughes,
I don't know, I feel like he left such an
impression on me.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was so crazy because guys he had a NAS
interviewed him. I think it was like two and a
half years ago. She did this JC Penny ad with
them where she was like the host of this sponsored
event and he goes, Nas, you're Dominican, right, like he
remember her ancestry. He remembered that it was a JC
Penny event that she hosted. He was like talking to
(04:57):
me about my kids ages. I'm like, you are so kind.
I can't believe it. And then he like helped us
make a reel Instagram reel and.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It was like so ridiculous, and he was he was like,
just went along with it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, he was like, do you want to do it again?
If it takes not right, we'll do it again.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And then you see them all like because they're all
so sweet and so humble. AJ wasn't feeling good. He
didn't show up to the back room. And then I
didn't get to say hi to Kevin. But we've I've
met Kevin a number of times and he's just so sweet.
So I was like, I don't need to push any
meetings right now or like hellos when I have such
great memories, you know, like they're so bombarded right now
(05:36):
with other people and let's see who so like when
they got on the stage, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Just like they personas take us back like older egos,
the Backstreet Boys exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
They're just like.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
These sweet, humble guys, just like talking. They're just like
regular dads and all of a sudden, yes, holy cow,
that's so good.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know, I have like all those video but
I feel like it's just stored in here forever. My
brain is like forever, like chemically altered.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I feel like I can't even post some of these
videos because they don't even do it justice. The experience
of seeing these visuals all around you, having this live music,
like having your favorite band, it was just absolutely out
of this world.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
If you are a Backstreet.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Fan and you have thought like, oh, I should make
the trip, like you've got to make the trip. Yeah,
Jade and I are trying to put together a giveaway
right now so that people can experience this.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So I when I go on these things, like when
I go to concerts and I just feel like, I
don't know, you just feel like I said, forever changed.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I just want everyone to experience it.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I'm like, oh, I just wish everyone could go because
it's just that good.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, you were thinking about Emmy when you were sitting there.
I was thinking about, oddly, my parents. I was like,
my parents would love this. My dad loves Backstort Boys.
He's always He was the one who took me to
the concerts in high school, to college and stuff, and
I just know that he would geek out at the
coolness of it all. We could go on and on
(07:07):
and on. Seriously, you guys have got to check it out.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The theme was fun Millennial Millennium.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Because they all wore white in the Millennium album cover
and like a lot of the times in that Millennium era,
it was like universal white with the baby blue background,
so they wanted to do a white out and it
was cool to look out into the crowd and to
see everybody participating in the white totally.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And then I wore a butterfly outfit and Jade wore
really cool xenon pants.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Basically anybo at the Backshi Boys concert. I mean, why not?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I know? It was this the perfect night. I smiled
so big for so long.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It was just I've never I've really like, I was
overloaded with serotonin. I couldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't think I've I mean we got back to
our room at like midnight and I was like, wow,
it's midnight, Like I'm doing good for being in Vegas,
and I don't think I fell asleep until about three
am because my brain grew down.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, what I also love about
you and Tanner is that you guys keep up with Paradise,
you keep up with the Bachelor. A lot of lums
have like kind of dropped off as far as like
watching dedicatedly throughout the years, but we are we will
always watch for me. I can't possibly imagine, like the
(08:29):
show that I was on and met my husband and
had my family through to not watch it, right if
it's like still ongoing. However, with Grand Season, there were
times whereas like please, I don't want to watch this.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Oh, I mean, you know what, I was having high
hopes when like Joey became the Bachelor. Gain it's not
trending then, I don't know what happened, and I don't
know if it's happening with Paradise, but we are watching.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So Tanner was the one that Ben and I relied
on for his polls. I love Tanner's polling. I think
he has a good grasp of the bachelor demographic through
his following as well. So most people, like eighty something
percent don't like the new version of the show, totally
new production.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Crew, highly stylized edit.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
We were texting because Jade Tanner, me and Jared have
a pretty ongoing text thread, and we were just talking
about how it feels so different. Can you describe what
Tanner and yourself complain about when you're watching on Mondays?
And of course the good things too, because there are
great things, and especially as.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Time goes on. I think it was like a big.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
The first episode or two, I was like, oh god,
this feels so weird.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
This feels so weird.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And now that we're getting deeper into the storylines, I'm
not seeing the edit as much like the style.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mean, Tanner definitely has a ton to say, but
I just feel, I smith the campiness that was like
I don't know, the old song and the old intros
and just what made it classically paradise and.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Just I don't relate.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I just don't relate to the new styles of dating
that the generation.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Below us how is it different you think, I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I just feel like they're always just like one like
one flip barely in, you know, like one put out
the door one foot. No one's ever just like I'm
going to fully dive into this and see what happens,
because I feel like maybe that's just more of my
personal styles. Like when I'm ready to just like give
it a shot, I just one percent try to give
it a shot. And I feel like everybody nowadays is
(10:44):
always so hesitant. They always have this like I don't know,
I feel like people have really high This is good,
it's good to have high standards, but I feel like
people have like exceptionally.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
High standards and when something.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Goes wrong, they just like totally right off the person
instead of understanding that we're complex people with cats and
like with like our quirks and everything and that, like
if you really want to make something work, you work
with somebody. And so I just feel like people give
up so easily.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And I don't know that's just they do.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
My two cents on that, but the show just doesn't
have the same.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
There's like a heart, it's a warmth and a heart.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yes, yeah, I mean god, i'd give anything for that
air conditioning. I was so jealous when they're like, we're
staying in an air conditioned space.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But also like I kind of like the suffering element
to it. It made like you made you have to
like be tough for love, like you really wanted to
be there, and it did like it create more of
like a It kind of created like a community vibe
with us, like all like suffering together in one bedrooms,
were sleeping outside.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Guess we're all like.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Are bitten by the sand mites where you all are sweaty, gross, like.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
In poop for nine days, you know, and poop for
nine days.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
We're all denydrated, our makeups running off our faces.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah. About the dating style, there's two theories to it. One.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think you're correct. I do think that that's how people.
I think people are extremely picky these days and they
get very freaked out by flaw.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think it's due to like swiping right. It's just
like oh, onto the next, onto the next.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I don't like this thing about you.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
There's someone else, like totally. I really think dating apps
are ruined dating.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But it could be we're glad that we got you know,
we were around during it we were single during dating apps,
but it was true. It was like thirty percent of
people were meeting that way. Now it's like whoof yeah
a lot. Now that there's a.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Problem with it.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean it find somebody through dating, aw, that's so
so great. But yeah, the never ending options mentality is
the probably the issue. Yeah. I also feel like maybe
in Paradise they are being more careful about solidifying a
(13:03):
relationship because they don't want to get in trouble. They
don't want to get the bad edit because if they
were to say I'm with you, I'm with you, and
then somebody else comes in and then the relationship gets broken,
somebody's gonna be vilified.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I mean, if you think about I think Tanner called
Paradise the Timu love Islands.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, well it but.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
If you think about Love Islands, they are very.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
All open minded about that though.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
They're like, I'm coupled up with you, but we owe
it to all of ourselves to get to know everyone,
and so everyone's allowed to go have a conversation, everyone's
kissing everybody, and nobody's getting really weird about it yet
until like halfway through. Then it's kind of like all right,
now you've got to be serious with this person, and
then you're not really like entertaining other.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
People anymore, and if you do, you're kind of a villain.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
But in the beginning, I feel like everybody is really
open and understands that that's just the concept, and so
I feel like almost I should kind of like ours
was not. I was like, if you like go after
anybody else, you're gonna be like totally.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Like a villain.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
When we were on Paradise, Yeah, like if say, like
next week, I like jumped over to somebody else and
then like was wishing to watch you with Tanner, I
would people would have hated me.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, But I.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Feel like if they all had that like understanding of
we're all this here to get to know each other
and they'd get getty, then maybe that's like then I understand.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We're like they're not supposed to couple up, or like
the first week doesn't have rose ceremonies. That would actually
probably could work best for Paradise. That's a good spin
the first like two weeks, you know, which is really
like six days.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I also think if they're gonna adapt so many of
these new ways to do paradise. I think if you
don't get a rose, I don't think you should have
to be sent home. I just think you're just single
in the villa or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And then more.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
People come in that way, like you have an option
to see the new people too, and those new people
aren't just coming in and be like, oh, everybody's coupled up.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh I've got one option.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's like when I walked in on season three and
Daniel was truly the only person I could ask, and
like he didn't even want to go with me, and
I didn't really want to ask him, and it's like,
but I guess it's just the two of us.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's just Yeah, that is such a good point.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And also we could see people like Susie like, yeah,
Lexi continue to date in that area, and it would
be fun to watch them because we'd still have the
awkwardness of justin being around totally.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Like I would have loved to have seen Lexi stay
around and Susie, you know what I mean. And then
you get to see when the new guys come in,
how those how everything plays out. It's just like different
dynamics or if they say, like you said, if they
stay around, then how are Susie and Justin and Lexie
still going to navigate that? Like, I feel like it
just head off so fast.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yes, you could actually make more drama by having people
hang around more, and then you'd also have possibly more
couples totally, And that leads me to my next question.
So we see that Jess and Spencer are like the
Jaden Tanner kind of of this season so far, They're
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like the one really solid feeling couple and they're doing
what they oftentimes do. They don't give them a lot
of airtime because quote quote they might be boring. Then
people always are sad about not getting to know the
couple that may end up being together. I think that
if anyone of all the seasons of Bachelor in Paradise,
you and Tanner probably got more airtime than most couples
(16:33):
that ended up getting married.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
What do you think I can't remember?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I still like it still is not a lot because
we were so on yat yeah, you know, and we
didn't really participate in any of the other drama too.
Like I know, they tried to pull me into Sam,
Sam Joe yeah stuff. Yeah, And I was just really
sad because I loved Sam and I was like, I
don't want to be sucked into this, and they were
(16:59):
trying to say.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I didn't like that either, because I liked Sam too. Yeah,
I was like, am I going to look bad for
being like supportive of her?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I know? So I just didn't play the game. So
then I feel like that was the only end.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
He loves it, though he loves to like he loves
little like one liner like quips, and he likes still
like start.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Little fires and watch him.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
But yeah, no, I can't remember the airtime, but maybe,
but yeah, it is. It does kind of if it's
a show about love, I don't know why they aren't
at least giving the couples who are possibly on their
way to an engagement in more screen time, because then
you two get to develop that you get to see
that developed, that relationship developed and blossom.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Do you think that Jess and Spencer will get engaged?
Do you think there's going to be any other couple
that gets engaged? But my guess is now, But I
guess that I guess that they will.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I guess that there's still if the show is still
trying to end it in an engagement. But I saw
there's now like a money pot at the air right
that we still don't know anything about.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
No, I'm like, wait, what is what is this show? Now?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So? I mean, but they are the ones I pick
if there's an engagement going to happen. They seem to
be the ones that are actually like getting to know
each other, spending time with each other, that.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Are all like, you know, they seem like you're falling
in love.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Do you think that there could be a possible spin
on the money where it's like, this is your five
hundred thousand dollars for a down payment if you guys
actually make it to the altar?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean, that would be incredible. Yeah that works.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Are they gonna be like awful and be like you
have the chance if you you know, if you're the
final couple, you have the chance to keep the five
hundred pot or whatever, the five hundred thousand dollars to
yourself or split it between you and the other person,
Like you don't they do that?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And then like yeah, that's like you know, that's like
too hot to handle and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
But I I don't know, I'm not really You guys
watch more dating shows than I do, because you guys
watch Love Island.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Right, Sander watches you watching the UK version?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Ok, yeah, it's too dirty for me, Like it's so
uncomfortably dirty.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I don't watch.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I hadn't seen the the US version. But that's another thing.
I wish that Paradise didn't have the hotel rooms. I
feel like it's stifling so much of the like connections
where you just if it's raining, you just go sit
in your room.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Like that's so terrible, so crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And what do you think about the Goldens my last
question about Paradise. I actually think that they bring fun
to it. I wasn't very keen on having them come
because I wanted attention to be on the young ends
and I didn't want any of those like crossover storylines.
I think it's actually bringing levity to it.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I find them entertaining, Like I do find them like funny.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I like I like Gary, who's funny.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
And but I just feel that they're there for fun.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, they're not going to like leave together. I like
they're just there for like Margarita's and patient.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah one thousand percent, And those people have been mingling.
I know that, like the rules of mingling before. Paradise
is far more lax than it used to be. But
those people have hung out so many times. If they
really felt a connection, they would already be together.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, I agree, but I do find like I thought
it was gonna be gross. I was like, ew, like
I don't want to it would be so uncomfortable for me.
But it doesn't seem that way as much as I'm
watching it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, Okay, let's get into some bachelor headlines. The virgin
dating show that we did know about. Uh, I don't
know that we talked about it yet, probably not, probably
weren't allowed to. But it's called Are You My First?
Is hosted by Bachelor lum Carlton and Caitlin, and it's
going to be on Hulu starting on August eighteenth. It's
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gonna stream all ten episodes at once. So it's like
part of of like the Hulu Disney Plus like ABC,
like Family Delio and it obviously, you know, obviously.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like a little fumbou.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Like like okay, so there was like lots of virgins,
but like maybe like I could have been there and
maybe like if you guys do another season, I would
love to be your host.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
But Colton makes sense. They have two leads here, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Caitlin makes sense because I think she's probably when it
comes to leads, not very virginy.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
So it's like it's like the Angel and the Devil
on your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, the Yin and Yang for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
The tagline is the largest hottest group of virgins ever assembled,
and where we were following them is a search for intimacy,
love and maybe they're first in a tropical paradise designed
just for them. For the first time, they're free to
explore their connections without judgment, allowing these sexy young singles
(22:01):
to embark on a heated yet heartfelt journey packed with
the romantic dates, revealing challenges, and new love interests that
are eager to find the one who I'm just presuring
myself at twenty six, And like on this show.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I was gonna say, how do you feel about that?
I would feel so effing awkward.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I think that, like I felt awkward being on the
Bachelor and having to be like, hey, guess what I'm
a version this is actually makes me feel like I
would be like so much more like I had like
a weird scarlet letter, like a good girl, like a
nice scarlet letter, but like everybody in the country being
just like, oh, look, dating virgins. I don't know what
makes me feel weird, weirder even.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
And yeah, I mean just imagine like a whole daily
show revolving around losing your V card.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, that's that's definitely what it is.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's like when they would try to elude that I
was going to lose it in the fantasy suite and
I'm like, you, guys, this is so effing ridiculous. Would
never lose it in a fantasy suite on TV. And
so I think that's what's so awkward about this is
they're like searching to kind of lose it. Oh my god,
where I was just like, this is like an element
of me, But like this is like they people are
(23:15):
gonna be watching to see if somebody loses it on
the show.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I don't know, I don't know if I could watch that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I think I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It feels so intimate, like it feels like so like
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I will definitely watch it because like I want to
be supportive of like of course Caitlin, and like it's
it's nice to see two bachelor lums as me, Yeah,
as the host, Like that's really really cool, and then
it's something that I can relate to.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So I will definitely be watching. See if they grab
me for all ten episodes.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Maybe it'll be super sweet because everyone's so like.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Vulnerable, you know, exactly, like everybody is going to really
be in it, I think for the love and the
relationship and not like hooking up. It's gonna be the
opposite of Love Island. So it probably won't feel icky
at all for me.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Awkward but ikey, but awkward but not icky, all right.
So Nick Viel and Natalie enjoy Vile. They will be
also hosting a new dating show. It's called Age of
Attraction and it's going to be launching on twenty twenty
six on Netflix. I know that they were just spending
the last month I think it was June and Canada
(24:27):
filming it, and in this obviously they are picked to
be the host of this show because crazy enough, Nick
and Natalie are eighteen years apart, and it doesn't feel
like that ever at all, Like hanging out with them,
looking at them doesn't feel like that at all, right,
because Nick is the youngest looking forty four year old
I've ever seen my entire life, and he's just and
(24:49):
he's mature, but he has young he has the youth
about him, right.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Anyway, so and she seems mature like and she's totally exactly.
She matures up and he doesn't mature down. I think
is mostly her maturing up. But like also it's his
youth at forty four, Like how does he look like that?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't know. So there. This is the This is the.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Synopsis for this ages thrown out the window as singles
search for their soulmates with the help from Nick and Natalie.
The daters range from twenty two years old to fifty
nine years old, so potential matches will see if age
is truly just a number or if the years will
come between them. Oh that is a that's a big chunk.
(25:37):
Eighteen years. I've seen eighteen years work plenty of times.
This is twenty two to fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So twenty two year old me would have been like, yeah, whatever,
all yeah, I see that on thirty eight year old
me is like, no, that's predatory.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, like that man's not No, he's gonna try to
like manipulate you, and you know what I mean, Like,
why is he dating that young, like and as a mother, yeah,
well no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right, I know. I just get worried. I have so
many thoughts. I don't know if I should share them.
I thought that your twenty two year old self wouldn't care.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
To year old, free spirited me would have been like, like,
let's seever, like, age is just a number.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's like when nas like, because you guys, we went
with our friend nas too to Backstreet and she will
like casually go on a date with somebody like her
dad's age and I'm like, Nas, no, no, and she's
like it's fine, it's cool.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
She's just like so much more free willing than me.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I am such a generational person, like I am definition
millennial that like, if I wasn't with the millennial, I
would feel like we had nothing in common.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I couldn't. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Well, what does a fifty nine year old have in
common with a twenty two year old?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Ever? I don't know, And I know that's.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Just a range that's probably not who's dating who.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
But yeah, exactly, so we will shall see.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
This also is the third Bachelor alum to be recently
announced as the host of a dating show. Because Gabby
Winley is doing Alex Cooper's new show on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
She's being the host of that already.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So we move on to Gary Turner giving his honest
opinion on the new Golden Bachelor mel Owens. So he
actually they didn't fire him, which is shocking.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
So that was the rumor, but it actually didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I don't think so, because I believe that they had
to start filming like this week.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Gotcha, no time to grab anyone.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Else, no time to remind everybody if you weren't if
you didn't know. Mel Owens, the New Golden Bachelor, said
that he would be cutting any female contestant over the
age of sixty.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He said this on a podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Did he realize that the Golden starting age is sixty
and like all the contestants thus far and the series
have been from sixty to seventy years old. He also
said a couple of other things. He said that his
ideal age would be like forty five, and he said
something about like no grannies or something like uh oh,
(28:35):
I forget, but something about bodies. He said something about
bodies that was in not a tasteful comment.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Really highly of himself. Doesn't he I do.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
They really should have switched him out because this is
going to carry with everybody's feelings for the entire season,
because when he is dating six year olds, we're going
to be like, oh wow, he's probably just gonna dump
this lady because he's just doing it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
For the show. He doesn't really want to be with
somebody of this age anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
To get to the back to the headline, Gary says this,
I think it'll be unfortunate if he cuts anyone over.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
The age of sixty.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think he's going to have a change of heart
in this when he starts. I think he will see
the grace and the charm of women who are over
sixty and the confidence that they carry, and that he's
going to have a change of heart the age thing,
Ignore the number, deal with the person. Gary also said
that if Mel treats each and every one of them
with the courtesy and respect, with curtesying respect, and he
(29:30):
is a good listener, he's going to be fine. Okay,
that's very nice, Gary, that's very positive and optimistic, and
you're being a great spokesperson for the show there. I
really think that this is a mistake for them. I
think there's so many handsome, worthy men to be the
Golden Bachelor, and he royally messed up.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, how are you going to feel if you're one
of the golden bachelorettes going on?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Now? Yeah, that's if you.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
They haven't started filming, so obviously you probably already read
that headline.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So how are you gonna feel?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You're not gonna go intoy like self confident and like, no, I.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Have value, I have worth.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm here to find my person and like have this
like next chapter of my life like so many of
them we did see, like that's.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Why we fall in love with all those women.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Anyways, It's like, you know, it was just like their
readiness to be like vulnerable and find love in the
stage of their life.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And now you're like, oh, but you want a forty
five year.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Old I know, and you know I think about us
and the fact that forty five for you is seven
years away.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
For me, it's eight years away, Like I like, if
would I take this?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't even want you mail Okay, in eight years
I don't want you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
All right now I'm being hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Whatever, So now we move on to some happy love news.
Kelsey Weir from Peter season Pete Season is engaged to
basketball pro Matt Thomas. He plays out in Europe. She
moved with him over there in twenty twenty three and
they just got engaged this week July twenty first, at
(31:08):
a beautiful resort that one of our that our producer
has been to. It's apparently so nice out in the desert.
We are so happy for her because I know that
she's such a hopeless romantic and she went through a
lot after Pete's season and now she's found her happily
ever after.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And an other exciting news this dropped on Instagram yesterday.
Rodney Matthews, Rodney or Sweet Rodney from Michelle Season marries
his fiance Ari in an intimate ceremony. It was they've
been together since twenty twenty three and they officially tied
the knot in at Beverly Hills City Hall this week.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So that's that was the cutest pictures.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I do love a courthouse wedding, not for myself but
for others.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, that's awesome. I didn't know that they got.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Married, So congrat Oh so wonderful. All right, Jed, Well,
thank you for coming on. I'd like to create a
headline for you because everybody's always interested in your house,
your house stuff, because you guys switch houses all the time. Now,
we love it. We love the excitement of it. I
love seeing all your new houses. So you're currently in
(32:21):
a place that is like you bought when you first
moved back to Kansas City a year ago.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
But this was always supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Your transitional home while you guys figured out where you
really really wanted to live forever in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And first you bought a lot that you thought you
were going.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
To build on, and then stuff happened and you decided
to buy a house that was.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Built what in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, and you're totally redoing it because Tanner has a
thing where Tanner loves a fresh house.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Okay, Yeah, So when we moved from California, we wanted
to move back to Kansas to have our kids in
the school system there because Tanner has all these wonderful
memories and it's a great it's a great school system.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We were in very same similar about not the school
system element but the home state.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, And so our household was in like one day
and so we needed to find somewhere. We bought the
house we're currently in, like sight unseen, and then we
had bought that land like six months before, so we
thought that that was totally going to like start like
being a thing.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We were going to have a house soon.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
But then some stuff happened and it fell through kind
of with the building of it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
So now we bought a house.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
That we're renovating, because it is true. My husband loves
like new builds and.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Never thought he had to do a rento. I can't
believe he is too, I.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Know, but I think I just commenced him because it's
on twenty six acres.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's so beautiful, so serene. It just feels like.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
The people we bought it from call it the Healing
Vore Attax because their daughter, while they were living there,
she was pregnant, and when she was pregnant, she found
out she had stage four colon cancer.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And she moved in with them, and while living there
and like doing like her treatments and stuff, she completely healed.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It's like I'll find any trace of the cancer in
her body.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He wrote this whole book about it, but they call
it the healing vortex, and I'm like, I swear to
God every time we're out there, and it's so peaceful.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I feel so healing.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I don't know what it is about the energy there,
but I just feel like it's just I don't know.
I feel so happy that that's where we're gonna be
and this we're not moving anymore after this, I promise.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That is so magical. That's really that's that's a nice history.
This's great.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Oh my gosh, the history is really beautiful and it
was so nice.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
They're the nicest people. They built the house themselves.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And but yeah, I would love someday, like I want
to see like Emmy get married there and.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, near the pond and have a family compound.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
There's some day if I can convince all my kids
to live next to.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Us, and that would be I think that's like the
way of the future is like all of us are
going to have come We all like want to live
on the same cul de Sac as our families, which
is really nice.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, alrighty well, Jad.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thank you so much for coming on to recap our
weekend Talk Bachelor and our next trip we hope is
going back to ply Escondida, not really play Escandida Vendonta.
We hope to have a joint family vacation over the
fall where we go back to where we filmed. Bachelor
in Paradise is season two through nine. The og resort,
(35:35):
the Danta is calling us.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I can feel it. I know I feel that too.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Okay, all right, love you until next time. I've been, Ashley,
all right, thanks for having me, and she's been. Did bye.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. Today
I am joined by one of my best friends, Jade Tolbert.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hey Dreed. Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So we thought that'd be fun since Ben couldn't be
on the pod today, to have you come on, because
we just had a great, really impromptu week at the
Backshe Boys concert in Vegas at the Sphere.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It was the best time.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We stayed at the Waldorf Astoria and Jade had texted
me legit like six days before I left, and she
was like, Hey, we should do a girl's trip to
Vegas for Backshoop Boys. I was like, well, I actually
am going on to the Sunday show and I think
I might have an extra ticket and she was like,
(00:48):
let me ask Tanner if he'll watch the kids for
like twenty four hours, and we made it happen.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So it was very serendipitous because I really could to go,
and I was like, the only friend I know who
would be like down to do that with me, so
like impulsively it would be you and and then You're
so perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It really couldn't be happier.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
There would have been no better person to come and
it was her first Backs Boys concert, so oh jeez,
you'll never be able to go to see him on
tour after seeing them at the Sphere. Even though it's
wonderful at all times. You guys, this was the nuttiest
concert I've ever seen in my life. It was pure
sensory candy. Your eyes, your brain was just on so
(01:29):
much serotonin.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They were.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
They literally haven't changed as performers, if not gotten better
through the years, because I think back when I saw them,
I guess like during my college years, like early twenty tens.
They were great and live, but sometimes you were like, oh,
it's not what it used to be. And now I
feel like it's two thousand and one again. They sound great.
(01:57):
The acoustics in the Sphere are believable. You like feel
the music in your body, but not in the way
that you normally would at a concert, like it's crystal clear.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Think I told you. Somebody messaged me that there's sixty
seven thousand speakers in the Sphere, including one in every
single seat, So it did. It felt like they were
singing right next to you. It was so crystal clear.
They sounded amazing, like.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Even your chairs vibrated with.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Like the visuals and stuff. It was like, I don't know,
it was like being on a two hour ride.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was incredible us. It was a themed ride. The
theme was the Back Shape Boys. It felt like we
were in a Universal Studios ride. And actually the visuals
were better than what you usually would find out a
Universal Studios.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Right when you.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Said that you felt like you were zeen on, I'm like,
that was what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
We went to outer space. Yes, it was too cool.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
We actually through The Bachelor, I met their manager Jen.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
She is the greatest. She is a power.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
This woman manages like the biggest boy band in the
world and has just kept them going at this amazing level,
especially over the past decade, which she's been mostly within
the past decade. And so she got us to do
their little meet and greet beforehand. They basically have a
friends in a family room where the guys, you know,
(03:21):
if they choose come and hang out with about I
don't know how many people were in there, about one hundred,
maybe a little less yeah, maybe a little less yeah.
And so we got to say hi to Nick, we
got to say hi. Howie gave us a very private,
like just a very personal moment.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He was so freaking sweet.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He remembered details about me and Nas because we also
went with Nas Perez, who was one of our Bachelor producers.
That's how I became really good friends with her back
in Bachelor in Paradise season two. And then Jared was there,
so it was truly a BP two reunion at the
actual Boys and it was so great.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hollie was so nice. I just have to say, I
could not believe how warm he was. Yeah, Like he
was just so inviting and so kind, so warm. His
family was the sweetest. Yeah, his wife has always been
really nice. Yeah, they were so sweet. It just made
me and Stellia just be like I could I don't know,
you just don't know what to expect from people who
have like Megastarta.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm like, they've been worldwide known, right.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And this guy is just sitting there talking to us
like I don't know, like we were friends. I mean,
you know him, but I don't know him. And it
was just like it was really like a I don't know,
it was a moment for me. I was like, Hughes,
I don't know, I feel like he left such an
impression on me.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was so crazy because guys he had a NAS
interviewed him. I think it was like two and a
half years ago. She did this JC Penny ad with
them where she was like the host of this sponsored
event and he goes, Nas, you're Dominican, right, like he
remember her ancestry. He remembered that it was a JC
Penny event that she hosted. He was like talking to
(04:57):
me about my kids ages. I'm like, you are so kind.
I can't believe it. And then he like helped us
make a reel Instagram reel and.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It was like so ridiculous, and he was he was like,
just went along with it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, he was like, do you want to do it again?
If it takes not right, we'll do it again.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And then you see them all like because they're all
so sweet and so humble. AJ wasn't feeling good. He
didn't show up to the back room. And then I
didn't get to say hi to Kevin. But we've I've
met Kevin a number of times and he's just so sweet.
So I was like, I don't need to push any
meetings right now or like hellos when I have such
great memories, you know, like they're so bombarded right now
(05:36):
with other people and let's see who so like when
they got on the stage, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Just like they personas take us back like older egos,
the Backstreet Boys exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
They're just like.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
These sweet, humble guys, just like talking. They're just like
regular dads and all of a sudden, yes, holy cow,
that's so good.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know, I have like all those video but
I feel like it's just stored in here forever. My
brain is like forever, like chemically altered.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I feel like I can't even post some of these
videos because they don't even do it justice. The experience
of seeing these visuals all around you, having this live music,
like having your favorite band, it was just absolutely out
of this world.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
If you are a Backstreet.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Fan and you have thought like, oh, I should make
the trip, like you've got to make the trip. Yeah,
Jade and I are trying to put together a giveaway
right now so that people can experience this.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So I when I go on these things, like when
I go to concerts and I just feel like, I
don't know, you just feel like I said, forever changed.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I just want everyone to experience it.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I'm like, oh, I just wish everyone could go because
it's just that good.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, you were thinking about Emmy when you were sitting there.
I was thinking about, oddly, my parents. I was like,
my parents would love this. My dad loves Backstort Boys.
He's always He was the one who took me to
the concerts in high school, to college and stuff, and
I just know that he would geek out at the
coolness of it all. We could go on and on
(07:07):
and on. Seriously, you guys have got to check it out.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The theme was fun Millennial Millennium.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Because they all wore white in the Millennium album cover
and like a lot of the times in that Millennium era,
it was like universal white with the baby blue background,
so they wanted to do a white out and it
was cool to look out into the crowd and to
see everybody participating in the white totally.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And then I wore a butterfly outfit and Jade wore
really cool xenon pants.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Basically anybo at the Backshi Boys concert. I mean, why not?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I know? It was this the perfect night. I smiled
so big for so long.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It was just I've never I've really like, I was
overloaded with serotonin. I couldn't go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't think I've I mean we got back to
our room at like midnight and I was like, wow,
it's midnight, Like I'm doing good for being in Vegas,
and I don't think I fell asleep until about three
am because my brain grew down.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, what I also love about
you and Tanner is that you guys keep up with Paradise,
you keep up with the Bachelor. A lot of lums
have like kind of dropped off as far as like
watching dedicatedly throughout the years, but we are we will
always watch for me. I can't possibly imagine, like the
(08:29):
show that I was on and met my husband and
had my family through to not watch it, right if
it's like still ongoing. However, with Grand Season, there were
times whereas like please, I don't want to watch this.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Oh, I mean, you know what, I was having high
hopes when like Joey became the Bachelor. Gain it's not
trending then, I don't know what happened, and I don't
know if it's happening with Paradise, but we are watching.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So Tanner was the one that Ben and I relied
on for his polls. I love Tanner's polling. I think
he has a good grasp of the bachelor demographic through
his following as well. So most people, like eighty something
percent don't like the new version of the show, totally
new production.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Crew, highly stylized edit.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
We were texting because Jade Tanner, me and Jared have
a pretty ongoing text thread, and we were just talking
about how it feels so different. Can you describe what
Tanner and yourself complain about when you're watching on Mondays?
And of course the good things too, because there are
great things, and especially as.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Time goes on. I think it was like a big.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
The first episode or two, I was like, oh god,
this feels so weird.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
This feels so weird.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And now that we're getting deeper into the storylines, I'm
not seeing the edit as much like the style.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mean, Tanner definitely has a ton to say, but
I just feel, I smith the campiness that was like
I don't know, the old song and the old intros
and just what made it classically paradise and.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Just I don't relate.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I just don't relate to the new styles of dating
that the generation.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Below us how is it different you think, I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I just feel like they're always just like one like
one flip barely in, you know, like one put out
the door one foot. No one's ever just like I'm
going to fully dive into this and see what happens,
because I feel like maybe that's just more of my
personal styles. Like when I'm ready to just like give
it a shot, I just one percent try to give
it a shot. And I feel like everybody nowadays is
(10:44):
always so hesitant. They always have this like I don't know,
I feel like people have really high This is good,
it's good to have high standards, but I feel like
people have like exceptionally.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
High standards and when something.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Goes wrong, they just like totally right off the person
instead of understanding that we're complex people with cats and
like with like our quirks and everything and that, like
if you really want to make something work, you work
with somebody. And so I just feel like people give
up so easily.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And I don't know that's just they do.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
My two cents on that, but the show just doesn't
have the same.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
There's like a heart, it's a warmth and a heart.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yes, yeah, I mean god, i'd give anything for that
air conditioning. I was so jealous when they're like, we're
staying in an air conditioned space.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But also like I kind of like the suffering element
to it. It made like you made you have to
like be tough for love, like you really wanted to
be there, and it did like it create more of
like a It kind of created like a community vibe
with us, like all like suffering together in one bedrooms,
were sleeping outside.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Guess we're all like.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Are bitten by the sand mites where you all are sweaty, gross, like.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
In poop for nine days, you know, and poop for
nine days.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
We're all denydrated, our makeups running off our faces.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah. About the dating style, there's two theories to it. One.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think you're correct. I do think that that's how people.
I think people are extremely picky these days and they
get very freaked out by flaw.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think it's due to like swiping right. It's just
like oh, onto the next, onto the next.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I don't like this thing about you.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
There's someone else, like totally. I really think dating apps
are ruined dating.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But it could be we're glad that we got you know,
we were around during it we were single during dating apps,
but it was true. It was like thirty percent of
people were meeting that way. Now it's like whoof yeah
a lot. Now that there's a.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Problem with it.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean it find somebody through dating, aw, that's so
so great. But yeah, the never ending options mentality is
the probably the issue. Yeah. I also feel like maybe
in Paradise they are being more careful about solidifying a
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relationship because they don't want to get in trouble. They
don't want to get the bad edit because if they
were to say I'm with you, I'm with you, and
then somebody else comes in and then the relationship gets broken,
somebody's gonna be vilified.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I mean, if you think about I think Tanner called
Paradise the Timu love Islands.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, well it but.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
If you think about Love Islands, they are very.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
All open minded about that though.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
They're like, I'm coupled up with you, but we owe
it to all of ourselves to get to know everyone,
and so everyone's allowed to go have a conversation, everyone's
kissing everybody, and nobody's getting really weird about it yet
until like halfway through. Then it's kind of like all right,
now you've got to be serious with this person, and
then you're not really like entertaining other.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
People anymore, and if you do, you're kind of a villain.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
But in the beginning, I feel like everybody is really
open and understands that that's just the concept, and so
I feel like almost I should kind of like ours
was not. I was like, if you like go after
anybody else, you're gonna be like totally.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Like a villain.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
When we were on Paradise, Yeah, like if say, like
next week, I like jumped over to somebody else and
then like was wishing to watch you with Tanner, I
would people would have hated me.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, But I.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Feel like if they all had that like understanding of
we're all this here to get to know each other
and they'd get getty, then maybe that's like then I understand.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We're like they're not supposed to couple up, or like
the first week doesn't have rose ceremonies. That would actually
probably could work best for Paradise. That's a good spin
the first like two weeks, you know, which is really
like six days.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I also think if they're gonna adapt so many of
these new ways to do paradise. I think if you
don't get a rose, I don't think you should have
to be sent home. I just think you're just single
in the villa or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And then more.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
People come in that way, like you have an option
to see the new people too, and those new people
aren't just coming in and be like, oh, everybody's coupled up.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh I've got one option.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's like when I walked in on season three and
Daniel was truly the only person I could ask, and
like he didn't even want to go with me, and
I didn't really want to ask him, and it's like,
but I guess it's just the two of us.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's just Yeah, that is such a good point.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And also we could see people like Susie like, yeah,
Lexi continue to date in that area, and it would
be fun to watch them because we'd still have the
awkwardness of justin being around totally.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Like I would have loved to have seen Lexi stay
around and Susie, you know what I mean. And then
you get to see when the new guys come in,
how those how everything plays out. It's just like different
dynamics or if they say, like you said, if they
stay around, then how are Susie and Justin and Lexie
still going to navigate that? Like, I feel like it
just head off so fast.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yes, you could actually make more drama by having people
hang around more, and then you'd also have possibly more
couples totally, And that leads me to my next question.
So we see that Jess and Spencer are like the
Jaden Tanner kind of of this season so far, They're
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like the one really solid feeling couple and they're doing
what they oftentimes do. They don't give them a lot
of airtime because quote quote they might be boring. Then
people always are sad about not getting to know the
couple that may end up being together. I think that
if anyone of all the seasons of Bachelor in Paradise,
you and Tanner probably got more airtime than most couples
(16:33):
that ended up getting married.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
What do you think I can't remember?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I still like it still is not a lot because
we were so on yat yeah, you know, and we
didn't really participate in any of the other drama too.
Like I know, they tried to pull me into Sam,
Sam Joe yeah stuff. Yeah, And I was just really
sad because I loved Sam and I was like, I
don't want to be sucked into this, and they were
(16:59):
trying to say.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I didn't like that either, because I liked Sam too. Yeah,
I was like, am I going to look bad for
being like supportive of her?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I know? So I just didn't play the game. So
then I feel like that was the only end.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
He loves it, though he loves to like he loves
little like one liner like quips, and he likes still
like start.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Little fires and watch him.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
But yeah, no, I can't remember the airtime, but maybe,
but yeah, it is. It does kind of if it's
a show about love, I don't know why they aren't
at least giving the couples who are possibly on their
way to an engagement in more screen time, because then
you two get to develop that you get to see
that developed, that relationship developed and blossom.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Do you think that Jess and Spencer will get engaged?
Do you think there's going to be any other couple
that gets engaged? But my guess is now, But I
guess that I guess that they will.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I guess that there's still if the show is still
trying to end it in an engagement. But I saw
there's now like a money pot at the air right
that we still don't know anything about.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
No, I'm like, wait, what is what is this show? Now?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So? I mean, but they are the ones I pick
if there's an engagement going to happen. They seem to
be the ones that are actually like getting to know
each other, spending time with each other, that.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Are all like, you know, they seem like you're falling
in love.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Do you think that there could be a possible spin
on the money where it's like, this is your five
hundred thousand dollars for a down payment if you guys
actually make it to the altar?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean, that would be incredible. Yeah that works.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Are they gonna be like awful and be like you
have the chance if you you know, if you're the
final couple, you have the chance to keep the five
hundred pot or whatever, the five hundred thousand dollars to
yourself or split it between you and the other person,
Like you don't they do that?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And then like yeah, that's like you know, that's like
too hot to handle and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
But I I don't know, I'm not really You guys
watch more dating shows than I do, because you guys
watch Love Island.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Right, Sander watches you watching the UK version?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Ok, yeah, it's too dirty for me, Like it's so
uncomfortably dirty.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I don't watch.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I hadn't seen the the US version. But that's another thing.
I wish that Paradise didn't have the hotel rooms. I
feel like it's stifling so much of the like connections
where you just if it's raining, you just go sit
in your room.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Like that's so terrible, so crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And what do you think about the Goldens my last
question about Paradise. I actually think that they bring fun
to it. I wasn't very keen on having them come
because I wanted attention to be on the young ends
and I didn't want any of those like crossover storylines.
I think it's actually bringing levity to it.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I find them entertaining, Like I do find them like funny.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I like I like Gary, who's funny.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
And but I just feel that they're there for fun.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, they're not going to like leave together. I like
they're just there for like Margarita's and patient.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah one thousand percent, And those people have been mingling.
I know that, like the rules of mingling before. Paradise
is far more lax than it used to be. But
those people have hung out so many times. If they
really felt a connection, they would already be together.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, I agree, but I do find like I thought
it was gonna be gross. I was like, ew, like
I don't want to it would be so uncomfortable for me.
But it doesn't seem that way as much as I'm
watching it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, Okay, let's get into some bachelor headlines. The virgin
dating show that we did know about. Uh, I don't
know that we talked about it yet, probably not, probably
weren't allowed to. But it's called Are You My First?
Is hosted by Bachelor lum Carlton and Caitlin, and it's
going to be on Hulu starting on August eighteenth. It's
(20:54):
gonna stream all ten episodes at once. So it's like
part of of like the Hulu Disney Plus like ABC,
like Family Delio and it obviously, you know, obviously.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like a little fumbou.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Like like okay, so there was like lots of virgins,
but like maybe like I could have been there and
maybe like if you guys do another season, I would
love to be your host.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
But Colton makes sense. They have two leads here, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Caitlin makes sense because I think she's probably when it
comes to leads, not very virginy.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
So it's like it's like the Angel and the Devil
on your shoulder.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, the Yin and Yang for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
The tagline is the largest hottest group of virgins ever assembled,
and where we were following them is a search for intimacy,
love and maybe they're first in a tropical paradise designed
just for them. For the first time, they're free to
explore their connections without judgment, allowing these sexy young singles
(22:01):
to embark on a heated yet heartfelt journey packed with
the romantic dates, revealing challenges, and new love interests that
are eager to find the one who I'm just presuring
myself at twenty six, And like on this show.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I was gonna say, how do you feel about that?
I would feel so effing awkward.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I think that, like I felt awkward being on the
Bachelor and having to be like, hey, guess what I'm
a version this is actually makes me feel like I
would be like so much more like I had like
a weird scarlet letter, like a good girl, like a
nice scarlet letter, but like everybody in the country being
just like, oh, look, dating virgins. I don't know what
makes me feel weird, weirder even.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
And yeah, I mean just imagine like a whole daily
show revolving around losing your V card.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, that's that's definitely what it is.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's like when they would try to elude that I
was going to lose it in the fantasy suite and
I'm like, you, guys, this is so effing ridiculous. Would
never lose it in a fantasy suite on TV. And
so I think that's what's so awkward about this is
they're like searching to kind of lose it. Oh my god,
where I was just like, this is like an element
of me, But like this is like they people are
(23:15):
gonna be watching to see if somebody loses it on
the show.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I don't know, I don't know if I could watch that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I think I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It feels so intimate, like it feels like so like
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I will definitely watch it because like I want to
be supportive of like of course Caitlin, and like it's
it's nice to see two bachelor lums as me, Yeah,
as the host, Like that's really really cool, and then
it's something that I can relate to.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So I will definitely be watching. See if they grab
me for all ten episodes.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Maybe it'll be super sweet because everyone's so like.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Vulnerable, you know, exactly, like everybody is going to really
be in it, I think for the love and the
relationship and not like hooking up. It's gonna be the
opposite of Love Island. So it probably won't feel icky
at all for me.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Awkward but ikey, but awkward but not icky, all right.
So Nick Viel and Natalie enjoy Vile. They will be
also hosting a new dating show. It's called Age of
Attraction and it's going to be launching on twenty twenty
six on Netflix. I know that they were just spending
the last month I think it was June and Canada
(24:27):
filming it, and in this obviously they are picked to
be the host of this show because crazy enough, Nick
and Natalie are eighteen years apart, and it doesn't feel
like that ever at all, Like hanging out with them,
looking at them doesn't feel like that at all, right,
because Nick is the youngest looking forty four year old
I've ever seen my entire life, and he's just and
(24:49):
he's mature, but he has young he has the youth
about him, right.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Anyway, so and she seems mature like and she's totally exactly.
She matures up and he doesn't mature down. I think
is mostly her maturing up. But like also it's his
youth at forty four, Like how does he look like that?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't know. So there. This is the This is the.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Synopsis for this ages thrown out the window as singles
search for their soulmates with the help from Nick and Natalie.
The daters range from twenty two years old to fifty
nine years old, so potential matches will see if age
is truly just a number or if the years will
come between them. Oh that is a that's a big chunk.
(25:37):
Eighteen years. I've seen eighteen years work plenty of times.
This is twenty two to fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So twenty two year old me would have been like, yeah, whatever,
all yeah, I see that on thirty eight year old
me is like, no, that's predatory.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, like that man's not No, he's gonna try to
like manipulate you, and you know what I mean, Like,
why is he dating that young, like and as a mother, yeah,
well no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right, I know. I just get worried. I have so
many thoughts. I don't know if I should share them.
I thought that your twenty two year old self wouldn't care.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
To year old, free spirited me would have been like, like,
let's seever, like, age is just a number.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's like when nas like, because you guys, we went
with our friend nas too to Backstreet and she will
like casually go on a date with somebody like her
dad's age and I'm like, Nas, no, no, and she's
like it's fine, it's cool.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
She's just like so much more free willing than me.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I am such a generational person, like I am definition
millennial that like, if I wasn't with the millennial, I
would feel like we had nothing in common.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I couldn't. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Well, what does a fifty nine year old have in
common with a twenty two year old?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Ever? I don't know, And I know that's.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Just a range that's probably not who's dating who.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
But yeah, exactly, so we will shall see.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
This also is the third Bachelor alum to be recently
announced as the host of a dating show. Because Gabby
Winley is doing Alex Cooper's new show on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
She's being the host of that already.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So we move on to Gary Turner giving his honest
opinion on the new Golden Bachelor mel Owens. So he
actually they didn't fire him, which is shocking.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
So that was the rumor, but it actually didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I don't think so, because I believe that they had
to start filming like this week.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Gotcha, no time to grab anyone.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Else, no time to remind everybody if you weren't if
you didn't know. Mel Owens, the New Golden Bachelor, said
that he would be cutting any female contestant over the
age of sixty.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He said this on a podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Did he realize that the Golden starting age is sixty
and like all the contestants thus far and the series
have been from sixty to seventy years old. He also
said a couple of other things. He said that his
ideal age would be like forty five, and he said
something about like no grannies or something like uh oh,
(28:35):
I forget, but something about bodies. He said something about
bodies that was in not a tasteful comment.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Really highly of himself. Doesn't he I do.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
They really should have switched him out because this is
going to carry with everybody's feelings for the entire season,
because when he is dating six year olds, we're going
to be like, oh wow, he's probably just gonna dump
this lady because he's just doing it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
For the show. He doesn't really want to be with
somebody of this age anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
To get to the back to the headline, Gary says this,
I think it'll be unfortunate if he cuts anyone over.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
The age of sixty.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think he's going to have a change of heart
in this when he starts. I think he will see
the grace and the charm of women who are over
sixty and the confidence that they carry, and that he's
going to have a change of heart the age thing,
Ignore the number, deal with the person. Gary also said
that if Mel treats each and every one of them
with the courtesy and respect, with curtesying respect, and he
(29:30):
is a good listener, he's going to be fine. Okay,
that's very nice, Gary, that's very positive and optimistic, and
you're being a great spokesperson for the show there. I
really think that this is a mistake for them. I
think there's so many handsome, worthy men to be the
Golden Bachelor, and he royally messed up.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, how are you going to feel if you're one
of the golden bachelorettes going on?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Now? Yeah, that's if you.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
They haven't started filming, so obviously you probably already read
that headline.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So how are you gonna feel?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You're not gonna go intoy like self confident and like, no, I.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Have value, I have worth.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm here to find my person and like have this
like next chapter of my life like so many of
them we did see, like that's.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Why we fall in love with all those women.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Anyways, It's like, you know, it was just like their
readiness to be like vulnerable and find love in the
stage of their life.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And now you're like, oh, but you want a forty
five year.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Old I know, and you know I think about us
and the fact that forty five for you is seven
years away.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
For me, it's eight years away, Like I like, if
would I take this?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't even want you mail Okay, in eight years
I don't want you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
All right now I'm being hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Whatever, So now we move on to some happy love news.
Kelsey Weir from Peter season Pete Season is engaged to
basketball pro Matt Thomas. He plays out in Europe. She
moved with him over there in twenty twenty three and
they just got engaged this week July twenty first, at
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a beautiful resort that one of our that our producer
has been to. It's apparently so nice out in the desert.
We are so happy for her because I know that
she's such a hopeless romantic and she went through a
lot after Pete's season and now she's found her happily
ever after.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And an other exciting news this dropped on Instagram yesterday.
Rodney Matthews, Rodney or Sweet Rodney from Michelle Season marries
his fiance Ari in an intimate ceremony. It was they've
been together since twenty twenty three and they officially tied
the knot in at Beverly Hills City Hall this week.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So that's that was the cutest pictures.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I do love a courthouse wedding, not for myself but
for others.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, that's awesome. I didn't know that they got.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Married, So congrat Oh so wonderful. All right, Jed, Well,
thank you for coming on. I'd like to create a
headline for you because everybody's always interested in your house,
your house stuff, because you guys switch houses all the time. Now,
we love it. We love the excitement of it. I
love seeing all your new houses. So you're currently in
(32:21):
a place that is like you bought when you first
moved back to Kansas City a year ago.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
But this was always supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Your transitional home while you guys figured out where you
really really wanted to live forever in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And first you bought a lot that you thought you
were going.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
To build on, and then stuff happened and you decided
to buy a house that was.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Built what in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, and you're totally redoing it because Tanner has a
thing where Tanner loves a fresh house.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Okay, Yeah, So when we moved from California, we wanted
to move back to Kansas to have our kids in
the school system there because Tanner has all these wonderful
memories and it's a great it's a great school system.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We were in very same similar about not the school
system element but the home state.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, And so our household was in like one day
and so we needed to find somewhere. We bought the
house we're currently in, like sight unseen, and then we
had bought that land like six months before, so we
thought that that was totally going to like start like
being a thing.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We were going to have a house soon.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
But then some stuff happened and it fell through kind
of with the building of it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
So now we bought a house.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
That we're renovating, because it is true. My husband loves
like new builds and.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Never thought he had to do a rento. I can't
believe he is too, I.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Know, but I think I just commenced him because it's
on twenty six acres.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's so beautiful, so serene. It just feels like.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
The people we bought it from call it the Healing
Vore Attax because their daughter, while they were living there,
she was pregnant, and when she was pregnant, she found
out she had stage four colon cancer.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And she moved in with them, and while living there
and like doing like her treatments and stuff, she completely healed.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It's like I'll find any trace of the cancer in
her body.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He wrote this whole book about it, but they call
it the healing vortex, and I'm like, I swear to
God every time we're out there, and it's so peaceful.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I feel so healing.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I don't know what it is about the energy there,
but I just feel like it's just I don't know.
I feel so happy that that's where we're gonna be
and this we're not moving anymore after this, I promise.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That is so magical. That's really that's that's a nice history.
This's great.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Oh my gosh, the history is really beautiful and it
was so nice.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
They're the nicest people. They built the house themselves.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And but yeah, I would love someday, like I want
to see like Emmy get married there and.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, near the pond and have a family compound.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
There's some day if I can convince all my kids
to live next to.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Us, and that would be I think that's like the
way of the future is like all of us are
going to have come We all like want to live
on the same cul de Sac as our families, which
is really nice.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, alrighty well, Jad.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thank you so much for coming on to recap our
weekend Talk Bachelor and our next trip we hope is
going back to ply Escondida, not really play Escandida Vendonta.
We hope to have a joint family vacation over the
fall where we go back to where we filmed. Bachelor
in Paradise is season two through nine. The og resort,
(35:35):
the Danta is calling us.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I can feel it. I know I feel that too.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Okay, all right, love you until next time. I've been, Ashley,
all right, thanks for having me, and she's been. Did bye.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
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