25W: Bobby's Oddly Numbered List + Todd McShay on Jerry Jones & Rookie QBs

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It's a podcast call twenty fives Stuck in Football and
they are well a whist So yeah, it's too bad,
but what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Whistles twenty line.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Welcome, Todd mcshaye coming up. Also, Brandon Marcelo coming up.
We'll talk NFL, we'll talk college football. I'll start with this.
And I saw where Bobby Ports's house was broken into.
Bobby Portter's plays for the Bucks, and he had a
video up and he was like, here's like the footage
these people broke into my house when I was at work,

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meaning playing basketball, and here you have the audio mic.
Here you go play it. Please.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
What's good Milwaukee over the last four and a half seasons,
I'm considering Milwaukee as a home. The love you guys
giving me here is this something that I ever felt
before in my NBA career. So I've always felt like
I had to give it right back to you guys.
I know we've gotten out to a horrible start. To
start the season. But while I was at my game yesterday,

(02:13):
I had a home invasion and they took most of
my prize possessions. Any info that leads to the return
of any of my belongings will be rewarded himsomely.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Let me know, thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
That sucks for him.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
It also sucks that he has to go, Okay, I
know what you're gonna say, We've sucked this year. And
because he had to like preface it in the middle
of that, hey, he's like, I know, it's been a
rough start.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
To the season.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
He don't can't rock the house. He's like eight miling
himself a little bit so other people don't do it.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
He's like, but someone broke in, and he showed.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Like a black and white maybe a video or grainy
footage of who it was from security cameras. But yeah,
that sucks. And not only does it suck obviously because
someone got in a broken I am surprised that whenever
someone has a public profession like he does, when you
know he's at a game or you know he's out
of town, that there's not somebody at the house.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
That's a good point because.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And again, this is not victim shaming at all, because
that that is terrible. And maybe there was somebody there
and still they broke in. I don't know, but I know,
and I'll compare on a very very mild level myself.
If I'm gone and I'm at any time gone where
people know I'm gone, somebody's at my house, because it's
a job where publicly, if I'm on tour and someone

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knows that I don't know I'm in Iowa or Boston,
I know that they know that I'm not at my house.
Therefore someone's gonna be at my house. And so hopefully
this is hopefully they get it back and they have
a picture and somebody's gonna see that picture, that video.
I know who that is, Yeah, like for sure, Yeah,
but yeah, I hated that for him. It's also to

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have your house broken into. And I've had it happen
to me before, way back in the day. And again
it was while I was on the air even and
that's when I lived alone, and so when I was
on the air, you knew I wasn't at home because
I was on the air, and they took that time
to go and break into my house and steal all
kinds of stuff, including my PlayStation two, which had the
only video of me skydiving. I've got pictures. It was

(04:12):
a is a CD and it was the time I
went skydiving, and it had a tiny woman that was
attached to me. Everybody else had big men, had a
tiny woman because I was the last one to sign
up and I went by myself. When you were a skydiving, yes,
a tiny woman that we were tandem, and so she
was tandem behind me and everybody else like jumped off,
but she did double backflips out of the plane with me.

(04:33):
And nobody will believe me because I don't have the
video because the person broke into my house and stole
my PlayStation two.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
That's the one thing you wish you could have back.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Unless it was a PS three Happy two at that time,
it was a two two, maybe a two I think,
So whatever this stilema skydiving video, I promise we did
two or three backflips out of the plane.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
And you must have been watching it too a lot
because it was in your PlayStation. Why else would it
be in there?

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, you should download games at that point too.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, So I don't have it, I don't I think
I have a single oh, I bought one. It didn't work.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
I bought them The Boys for Christmas. I bought them
a CD a Madden and it was the actual scenes.
I just downloaded it because so they can open up
something in Christmas.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, that's a good reason. They were all like, yeah, yeah,
I guess.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
I hate that.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
For Bobby Porters, I hope he finds whoever was it
stolen stuff. I'm sure with some good stuff too. He's rich.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
But for me, I think because the position I'm in
that if I'm ever gone and people know I'm gone,
there's somebody at my house all the time, because that's
just begging people. As a matter of fact, they have
a gun pointed at the door every second I'm gone.
Every door, I've got somebody at every door with a
gun if I'm not there. So not the biggest sports story,

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but something I was thinking about. Wanted to bring it
something else I've been thinking about. I bet the Cowboys
plus three. I thought, you know, if the Cowboys are
really gonna do what I think they do, we're gonna,
I said, we could. I bet on them. I'm gonna
beat the Falcons. And because you're I'm a massive Cowboys fan,
and I thought this is getting nothing to it, and
so I bring not just because we talk Cowboys every
weekau Eddie, cause EDI's not a fan anymore. He'sin't more

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in a Cowboys anything, even more this week Eddie hates
a Cowboys, I mean even less of a fan. This week.
I thought it was hilarious when you see Dak mouthing
on the sidelines we e fing suck.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Hey, Dak, we've been saying that too, dude, welcome to
the club. Oh he went watching you. We've been saying that.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's kind of dirty. Dog. I don't think that's true.
What do you mean he has no weapons. What do
you expect him to do? Okay, what's he saying? Then
he's blaming the people that were on the field at
the time. No, he's talking about himself.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
He's talking about the organization.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
We feel you, bro, we feel you. We've been saying
that too, But you're acting like it's Dak.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
My only point was you said he he.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Said we suck, and I'm saying we agree. Okay, I
can subscribe to that, but it felt like you said
Dak specifically. No, I mean Dak.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yes, it's hard for him too. It's just it's it's
just hard watching the Cowboys. Man, it's hard watching the Cowboys.
And yes, we two have been saying that too for
like the last three or four weeks.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
We suck. And when QB two came in, though, I
was like, here we go, did you really think he's
I thought you back, because there was plenty of time.
They were down fourteen with like nine minutes left, and
I was like, here we go.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Do you think that they pulled Dak on purpose, like
because I just saw him looking at his wrist.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
No.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
And then they came back from commercial and said he's
out with a hamstring injury.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
No, I do not get They pay him way too
much and there was too much time left and a
drive at that point would have made it a one
possession game. No, I thought it was the finger injury
when they pulled him. I thought it was because of
the finger. Yeah, not that his finger wasn't hurt, but yeah,
they said, and they're doing an MRI and his hamstring
today or whatever it is that.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
I guess it's all connected, right, hamstring goes all the
way to your fingers.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hamtring bone goes to finger bone, goes to the ham
and bone. So Dak's hurt then hurt, and I felt
like he was really hurt, like his shoulder hurt. And
I had bet him on the over eight catches and
he was at what well, so he was at seven
and he it was hurting bad. And I was like,
leave him in the game, leave him. And he comes
at eighth and I was like, get him out of the game.

(08:02):
Hit him out of the game. He's hurt. He hit
the over and I was like, you got him, remove him,
take him out of there.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
So the Cowboys are gonna have to win a lot
of games.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I don't think that's possible.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah, they're done.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, let me let me ask you this question. If
you had to take one of the teams to make
the playoffs, the Cowboys the Bengals, which have a pretty
tough schedule coming up, Ravens, a couple of Steelers games, Cowboys, Bengals,
or Jets. Pick a team. I'm still going cot Bengals.
We'll have a bet from both the Cowboys and the Bengals.

(08:38):
I mean, you go Bengals, right, Like, I think their
schedule is tougher.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, that entire division. Well, the brown suck.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
We seen the Ravens kind of crap a little bit,
but every team craps a little bit. Every team doesn't
crap a lot. And the Ravens had an opportunity to
crap this weekend and they didn't. They dropped forty one
or something like that.

Speaker 8 (08:57):
Right, Bengals got the Ravens, Chargers, Steelers next three.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
They can do that. The Cowboys beat the Steelers, different Steelers.
Didn't the Cowboys be the steeper justin Fields?

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Yeah, it was like two in the morning.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
That's true. Everyone was sleepy. I'm still gonna go with
the Cowboys over those other two teams.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
I'm going Bengals.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean, I guess, are we in a vacuum whe
Dack's not injured?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Because no, I don't know, we're in the real world.
But wins Man, Cooper Cup sorry, Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush
who got kicked out of the Rams?

Speaker 9 (09:33):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Hookah? Yeah, okay, I'm going with the Cowboys still. I
have faith, zero fan, I have faith. You sound like
one of us, I know, but it's just because I
put a bunch of money on them before the season
because Eddie made me. Uh. I'm going Cowboys, Kevin Yeah, Bengals.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
Yeah, Bengals, Eddie, Yeah, I go Bengals. Man can't do
the Cowboys. We have no chance.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
We med the Cowboy schedule.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah, it's tough. We got the Textans coming up. We
have the Eagles next week. It's just have you played
Washington yet? I don't even think so. I have not
played Wasting.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Got the Eagles, Texans commanders.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
And one answer.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I see two in one coming and.

Speaker 8 (10:17):
The Giants Bengals, Panthers, Bucks, Eagles commanders again to.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
End the matrix, backwards jump, and I'm sure that a
lot of that was on accident. Oh I think he
saw the guy coming. No, of course he did.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
He jumped. I don't think he jumped purposely to flip backwards.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
He was trying to think.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
His momentum. Yes, his momentum, Edie did on purpose.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
I saw he did the spin and then he saw
the guy like, oh I'm backwards, let me split it.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I think he was just in.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
That was his movement momentum, and he just took him.
But it was awesome. It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I thought it was gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
His helmet though when he got hit after it, because
he landed he took a pretty good blow. But he
got up. It was how about to do with the Giants?
And you watch Saquan just miling it.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yeah, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Unbelievable. Okay, going Cowboys, Bengals and bangalsm I'm saying that.
But I gotta be real here, dudes. Every week we
go through this, what's the best case scenario for the
rest of the season and off season for you? We
lose every game and then get a good pick.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Dang, he's done done.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
We're done done. I think you can even as it is,
I think you'll still win seven to eight games to
do what And I'm not satting? No, what do you
want to do? Do we do that? Okay?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
No, no, no, I'm not arguing. I hope you do. I'm
saying I think you will.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I hope they don't.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
I hope that we just lose, call it a year
and then start over next year. Okay, major change.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
But does that mean you've changed out McCarthy? Does that
mean okay, are you trading Michael Parsons? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Oh do you still? Are you still called the Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Like, no, let's get the Star bring back the Oilers.
I mean, I don't know, dude, Honestly, I really don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
So your best case scenario again one more time, is
we lose.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
We lose every game from here on now, and we
just change we just change everything about our organization.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
But that's not realistic. Change everything. Well, I mean we
still have our owner, so that's problematic. Okay, but you
keep the same quarterback, you just sign them same quarterback.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
We have to we have CD, so we've got to
change the head coach. We got to change that coaching obviously,
with Zeke and all his problems going on, the discipline
in that in that office is not there.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Zeke sucks. So how many times?

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Think he was every time?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Every time? Dude? But Zeke's not a real factor. He's
not going to be a real He's not a factor.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
But I feel like if he's doing that, then that's
just the culture in there. Let's do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
I'm obviously not in there, but I feel like if
that's happening, that's got to be part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
You Okay, then then they're If A equals B according
to you, then C is you're not going to watch
any more games than you don't care this year? Yeah?
Oh no, I'll watch every game, but are okay, Then
that means I won't care as much. But that means
you're rooting against them every game.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
What I will do is I will watch the game.
I'll probably be doing something while I'm watching that.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
That means you'll be rooting against them. Because best case scenario,
as you lose every game. That's hard.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
I'm not gonna say I'm gonna do that, but if
it happens, it's like it's like Kevin, like, if it happens,
like he went to the game.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
To go see the Patriots and he wanted him to win.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, but he wasn't hurt that they lost. His team
is terrible. His team has no weapons, no tools. The
one weapon they have is a baby infant weapon. That's
a quarterback who made a great place to get the
overtime and terrible to play in overtime.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
But that's okay though, Yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
That balls in the air. It was coming right at us.
We were sitting in the inZone and I was like,
he's got him, he's got him, and they got picked.
I was like, he doesn't got them.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
Towards the end, like everyone thought the game was over
and so we walked down and then they started driving,
and then we sat in the seats like ten rows
up from the end zone.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Real they scored.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh so you weren't on the field. No, I wasn't
on the field. He said, you were on the field.
Made it sound like that he was at the end zone.
He said, no, I didn't think that at all.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Catch it.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I thought he was like right there sideline.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Oh, I think he's like doing some him and Aaron.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Andrews and his dad. Yeah, okay, let's see. My things
were one Bobby Ports, two Cowboys, Eddie three. I wasn'tna
talk to Kevin about going to the game. I feel
like if I were a Patriots fan, I would be
very happy with that. Drake made performance yesterday very Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
He had a couple of bad plays. That pick, the
first pick was very, very bad.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
But overall, I mean, he looked like maybe the best
player on the Tony Pollock's pretty damn good, by the way,
best player out of both teams, just making plays.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
At least he gives me some hope.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's exciting your dad and your brother with you. Yeah.
They flew in and I could see though, hoping for
a win because the whole family was there. Yes, so
I can under because I know if they lose, great,
you want a better pick, and they're not gonna win
a bunch of games. The Cowboys will probably win seven.
I think Cowboys went at least seven games this year.
I think the Patriots may win one or two more,
just because the NFL had so much parody. So they lose,

(14:52):
they lose, but I think I'd be I'd be sad
they lost because you wanted to win a game with
your dad and your brother.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:58):
But I will say that fourth down play, the I'll
play of regulation brought enough joy where you're like, that
was fun. And I'll also say drawd Mayo, go for.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Two next time. I don't know why they don't go
for two? What are we doing? You know?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
The general rule?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Great point. The general rule is if you're at home,
you go to overtime. Yeah, if you're on the road,
you go for two.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah. And they had all the momentum.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And also who cares exactly? Who cares exactly?

Speaker 6 (15:22):
It's like, why wouldn't you just go for it?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah? I agree. My final thing was a lot of
people lost this weekend in college football. Just looking at
the list of teams that lost. Penn State lost. Now
they lost Ohio State. But I'm gonna read you all
the rank teams that lost. Penn State at three lost
Texas A and M at ten lost South Carolina. Iowa State,
who's undefeated by the way, lost of Texas Tech. Clemson

(15:44):
Haha lost to Louisville. Kansas State. We don't like this.
For Kansasate. We like Kansas State. They lost to Houston.
Pittsburgh lost to SMU. Pittsburgh lost bad. That game was
not a game and the Pittsburgh scored late to make
that somewhat looked like it was a close. It was
four eight twenty five and it was not that close
of a game. Yeah, and then Minnesota be Illinois. Illinois

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was twenty four. We like Illinois. But a lot of
teams lost that were ranked one, two, three, four, five,
six seven teams. Arkansas is bad. Oh god, dang fire.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
Turned that game on. It was like thirty five to
six or so.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
It got bad real quick, and I you know, I
punished myself and forced myself to watch every down. I
was like, oh yeah, I was like, you're gonna be
a fan, be a fan loser. I did that too,
and so I watch every freaking.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Play out louder. Internally, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Because I talk internally to myself as much as I
talk out loud. Call yourself a loser, yeah, I'm sure.
I thought. If you're gonna you're gonna be a loser.
Watch the game. Watch the game. Do not leave a
single play if you're gonna make a big deal about
it. It was an eleven o'clock game. You're gonna wake up
in the morning excited about it, and you're gonna watch the
whole game. You did this to yourself and I did
to watch the whole game, and it sucks. So stupid.

(16:54):
I'm stupid. It sucks.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Why are we putting so much on a team that
we have no control over.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
It's a passion. Everybody's got passions, but like, really, like
after the game's over, boy, here he goes sports because
this team sucks.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like I have no control over what they do. That's
their life. You don't have control over like what your
bosses do either, like corporate and they can fire you
hire you. I can send an email, okay, we sent
one to Jerry Jones.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Let us come the cowboy.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
That's true.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
That god, it just feels like we put so much
into this and then they just lose and lose and
then we'll sit there all sad for the rest of
the day, for the rest of the week.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
You know, my Mondays are so hard. Now. My Mondays
were never hard. But it only feels that way because
you're losing. When you're winning, you're like, I love it,
I love putting it. Monday's a great best you wake up.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
God.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
We pretty much sucked on the parlay.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of kicked that off too with Army.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
That was close though, I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Seventeen Kevin won the Vanderbilt plus seven. I did bet,
like the live betting. I bet put like nine hundred
bucks on Vanderbilt to what and they did and it
was awesome. That's great. Vanderbilt's like little eased the pan
a little bit. Well that was earlier. Yeah, But here's
the thing. There were there were four games. We knew
we weren't getting hit all four.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
With Someday we will, though, and it's gonna be awesome
when we do that.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Kevin hit Vanderbilt plus seven at Auburn, Tennessee. Did be Kentucky,
but they did not cover sixteen and a half. Army
did beat air Forces. They did not cover Michigan Oregon,
which Reid picked that one was a.

Speaker 10 (18:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
That was the Actually.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
I think they might have been covering. And then Oregon
scored late.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Hey, it was the worst one's but it was bad
great field bad is the worst one.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
The game was never close.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Let's talk about the game. The Monday night game. So
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be the quarterback he's been needed to be in the past.
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Speaker 5 (19:20):
He said, like six called it duty reference.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, and pray really Yeah, No, that's like in nineteen
eighties military, seventies eighties military.

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Speaker 1 (19:33):
You mean who rah?

Speaker 5 (19:34):
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Speaker 1 (19:35):
Has been a thing forever. They may also say it
in call it. Yeah. Kelsey more or lessan sixty one
receiving yards. Why not more?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Who cares his brother Jason Kelsey?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Is that? Don't Why would that idiot frat guy stupid? Yeah?
What are you doing?

Speaker 6 (19:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
He's probably drying.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Being an idiot just to be an idiot. Yeah, you
mean what he was saying.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I don't understand because the years RaSE sorry a homophobic
slur for baiting a pop star. Just in my mind,
I'm like, why, First of all, never use that slur.
Second of all, dating a hot pop star makes yeah mix,
make you make nose? No? And then Kelsey slammed his phone.
Kelsey out fell like you sound you saw him kind

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of fall, right If that that kid is lucky Kelsey
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Let's get into college ball with Brandon Marcelo. Okay, Brandon,
I want to start with South Carolina and Texas A
and M is South Carolina getting a lot better as
the season goes, is Texas A and M getting a
lot worse or is this just SEC parody?

Speaker 11 (21:34):
It's the parody portion of it. But also South Carolina
has been pretty good throughout the season. You know, they
nearly upset Alabama on the road. They probably should have
won that game. They were very close against LSU at
home in a morning afternoon game. Carolina, for them, they're
really good along the defensive front, and then when you
have a dynamic quarterback leors like Lenora Sellers, for them,

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they've got opportunities to beat really anybody in the SEC.
It's just that like nothing had really kind of come together.
You know, Leonora's Sellers had been hobbled a couple of
times with some injuries. He's not a great passer, but
when the running game gets going, it makes him a
better passer because more things open up. And the key
here for them, the difference in this game between those

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others two against LSU and Alabama was that the running
game got going early. They got a big lead early,
ten to nothing. A and M decides to try and
go for it on fourth down on their own side
of the field, and the floodgates kind of opened up.
And as a result, the playbook opened up a little
bit more for South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I see a lot of Texas fans taking joy that
Texas A and M lost, and again just speculation here.
Can A and M still beat Texas?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (22:43):
I think so because A and M's got a pretty
good defense, especially up front. Their quarterback situation is pretty good.
Marcel Reed is kind of still learning on the go
as a first year starter and being inserted and picked
off the field and put back on the field these
last couple of weeks. You know, the thing for Texas
is that they really haven't played a big time game

(23:07):
on the road this season. Their toughest environment, I would argue,
has been at Vanderbilt other than Michigan. Now, Michigan the
Big House is different, but also Michigan is maybe going
to be a five hundred team, maybe a little bit
below this year. They're an average team at best. Vanderbilt's
above average. And so Texas really when they go on

(23:28):
the road at Texas A and M in that rivalry
game finally being played for the first time in more
than a decade, and there's going to be playoff implications
on the line and potentially a spot in the SEC
Championship game. That is going to affect the way Texas
plays so much more than Texas A and M, and
I think A and M is most definitely one of
the top three teams in the SEC, but playing that

(23:52):
game at home could make them end up looking like
the top team based off of the way they performing
that game with the home crowd behind them.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
If we talk about SEC home crowds, Kyle Field a
place you hate to play because they are very allowed.
They're nuts. They got those weirdo dudes and white suits
jumping around. I was talking about Neeland Stadium, Knoxville. It's massive.
They played Rocky Top so many times that you just
leave that place singing it and you're like, I wish
I could stop singing it.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
But that is a dynamic place to play.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
What would you list your top three home field advantages
in the SEC?

Speaker 11 (24:27):
Great question, Man, lsu at night is number one. Number
two to me. When things are going well and it's
rocking Florida the Swamp, that place gets really really loud.

Speaker 10 (24:45):
I was at a game there is an afternoon game.

Speaker 11 (24:47):
Even it was between Auburn I think was in the
top five of the POINT and Florida was kind of
on the borerline there. This was about like six seven
years ago. It's the loudest environment I've ever been in anywhere.
I couldn't believe it. I've been to several games there
that one was insane, and then third, I'll go out
on a limb here and say, it's either Tennessee at

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night when they're rolling, or WILLIAMS. Brice Stadium at South
Carolina at night. Sandstorm gets in your head just as
much as Rocky Top, and that place gets noisy whenever
they see any semblance of fight from their team and
they've got an opportunity to upset someone. So for me,
it's those four but to tie at number three between

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Tennessee and South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
And when he says at night, everybody, he means when
they're drunk. I mean that's what They've had a lot
of time to loosen up. And I just mean, but yeah,
LSU at night and floor, I mean they are, they're
it's uncomfortable loud where you think I can't be that
ld but like it almost hurts, right.

Speaker 11 (25:49):
Yes, yeah, definitely, And like LSU is just there's no
atmosphere like LSU in the entire country because they they
get they get wet, and last throughout the day at
the tailgates. And it's the only place really in America
where you've heard horror stories of teams riding in on
buses and the fans surrounding the buses that are coming in.

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Once they park, they start shaking the buses and rocking
them back and forth. It's a very, very volatile atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay, let's talk about annoying day games. There was one
this week, the Penn State Ohio State game. It was
at Penn State because the big neon kickoff, it had
to happen at well noon. That was stupid that it
was a day game, do you agree?

Speaker 10 (26:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (26:33):
But TV rules the world, and at this point it
doesn't matter if a game's on in prime time for
it to be their quote unquote big game, especially if
Fox has got the first selection because their games are
going to be at big noon and they had that
one spot to be able.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
To fill this week.

Speaker 11 (26:47):
But yeah, it makes you wonder like if the bigger
games of the of the weekend, it almost seemingly we
should just always put those at night, right. But college
football has changed so much in the last fifteen years
when it comes from a TV perspective. You know, I
still hear a lot of whole old heads going what
you know, even for some games, going, why is this
game being played at at night?

Speaker 10 (27:05):
It's a bad game.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
It's like, well, because they've got so many time slots
to feel that they're moving things around, and it's all
about hitting the dynamic of not having a lot of
head to head competition in certain hours, and let's put
this crappy game here, and let's put this top tier
game here. It doesn't really much matter depending on the
network that's selection, and with all the major networks involved

(27:27):
at this point, it's just if we get the biggest game,
we're gonna put them in their top time slid for
Fox it's noon.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I feel like that game could have gone Penn State's
way had it been a night game.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
And I understand the dynamics of the telephone.

Speaker 11 (27:39):
Hey listen, I disagree with that. You know why, because
Penn State is just Penn State. Penn State has become
Penn State's become Iowa with different colors. I mean, they
just look so conservative and uncomfortable in big time situations.
Penn State had two opportunities inside the five yard line
and they got stuck every single time, four straight times

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on one possession. Nothing creative down near the goal line
to be able to punch it in. I mean, the
only creative thing we saw was they motioned an offensive
linemen across the formation just so he could block, Like,
what are you doing? You're not going to confuse Ohio
State by doing that. And it's just not to say
Penn State snake bitten, but they're oh to eighteen. When

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Penn State's ranked going against a top five opponent this century,
it's not just a James Franklin problem.

Speaker 10 (28:30):
It's a Penn State problem. Joe Paterno was.

Speaker 11 (28:33):
Having the same issues. But the difference between I know
I'm joking here when I say Penn State's like Iowa
in a lot of ways, but there is one big
difference here. Unlike Iowa, Penn State's got the talent to
face an Ohio State or in Michigan year to year.

Speaker 10 (28:49):
Iowa doesn't.

Speaker 11 (28:50):
And Iowa plays conservatively because they have to do that
to dictate the tempo, to give their talent a chance
to contend against the better talent. Penn State's got equal to,
maybe just a little bit below talent in Ohio State,
and yet they feel like they have to be conservative
to be able to win games.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
No, let it all fly.

Speaker 11 (29:08):
You're playing at home in front of the biggest crowd
in your stadium's history, one hundred eleven thousand people, and
you get to the goal line and you run it
four straight times?

Speaker 10 (29:16):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I would still say, and I agree, but I would
still say that crowd at night helping the defense. I
think that's a two to three point swin and Penn
State's up ten zero. I thought it was like, here
we go, baby, this is about to be and it wasn't.
And they they you're right. They bombed and they got tight,
and when you play tight, you don't win. I feel
bad for James Franklin. Did you you saw him arguing

(29:38):
with the fan after the game.

Speaker 11 (29:41):
Yeah, he's got to stop doing that. It's not the
first time he's done that, by the way, in previous years.
You just can't do that. Don't get into the fans.
That's why they're paying you a lot of money, is
to take that criticism and just let it roll off
your back.

Speaker 10 (29:53):
That's what the money's for.

Speaker 11 (29:54):
As they say in mad Men, that's not a good look,
and it's only going to add fuel to the fire
for Pea but wanting him out there, which is ludicrous
to begin with, considering all the games he wins. And
also Penn State's most likely still going to go in
the playoff this year and has a chance to make
a run there. So he just needs to let that
stuff roll off his back. Otherwise you're gonna put yourself

(30:14):
in a situation where it's not just a war of words.
What happens now that fans know they can get a
rise out of you by yelling at you. What all
it takes is one fan to say something really crazier
or like bump into you, and then all of a sudden,
we have a bigger situation here with all these cell
phone cameras out there.

Speaker 10 (30:29):
So just just let it roll off your back. Go
in the tunnel, go to the locker room.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I feel like Penn State and Indiana. Indiana's still undefeated.
It's amazing. I think Signette's actually creating a new bar
for first year coaches, much like there have been a
couple of rookie quarterbacks, just like c. J. Stroud did
right like he shows up with the Texans and now
they're like, well, all rookies need to be pretty good.
I think Signette's doing that because he brought over some
of the JMU guys. He's the first time ever Indiana's undefeated.

(30:53):
I either're nine to zero at this point, maybe I
think nine to o. But they haven't played anybody. Penn
State hasn't beat anybody. And when I mean that, they
haven't beat anybody with a number beside their name, Like,
how will that affect either one of those teams going
into either the Big Ten Championship or the College Football Playoff?

Speaker 10 (31:09):
It's a great question.

Speaker 11 (31:10):
I think what's really going to be interesting here is
most recently here with the first release of the CFP rankings.
How does that affect them in the selection Committee's eyes?
Where is Indiana in those rankings? Where is Penn State?
Is Indiana above Penn State and the College Football Playoff rankings?
Probably not, because they're going to talk about strength of schedule,
and as you said, Indiana hasn't beaten anybody with a

(31:33):
number beside their name really at this point in the year.
But Indiana has won every game by fourteen points or more.
I mean, hell, they gave Michigan State a ten point
jump start this past week and then scored forty seven
unanswered to win forty seven to ten.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
And you're right.

Speaker 11 (31:50):
I mean, Signetty's done an incredible job there and has.

Speaker 10 (31:53):
Set the bar.

Speaker 11 (31:54):
But I will say this, don't be thinking you can
reach that bar if you're a first year coach anywhere else.
Signetti's special. I mean there might be some bars out there.
You might be drinking yourself to death if you think
you can repeat what Signetti's doing in this first year
somewhere else.

Speaker 10 (32:09):
Because what he's doing is magical.

Speaker 11 (32:11):
But also he's been telling us to expect this right
throughout the preseason. He said, google me everywhere I go.
I win. He knows how to coach, he knows how
to build a roster more importantly, and get the best
out of him. Brought all those James Madison guys, and listen,
those James Madison guys are obviously very good, but they
weren't like highly recruited guys or people that just popped.

(32:32):
I mean even several of those guys he brought on
with from James Madison. We're only really getting Power five,
lower tier Power five offers in the transfer portal this
pass offseason. Signetti just loves those guys with the chips
on their shoulders. I mean, their top receiver right now
was a guy playing D two football.

Speaker 10 (32:49):
Just a few years ago. He's just built different.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Let's talk about Carson Beck. Three pretty ugly interceptions Georgia.
It took him a while. I mean I watched a
lot of that game. I thought, Wow, well, Florida actually
pulled this off. Carson Beck's draft stock probably not as
good as it was when the year started. Do we
still feel like Georgia could win the national championship? And
do we still feel like Carson Beck is elite?

Speaker 11 (33:16):
Georgia can very well win the national championships? Still, they
maybe have the best talent in all of college football,
even over Ohio State. The problem though, is Carson Beck.
His stock has dropped considerably in the NFL draft, and
I think that our preseason concerns about what is he
going to do without Lad mcconkee and Brock Bauers at

(33:38):
receiver and tight end are now warranted. He's thrown eleven
interceptions in the last five games, back to back games
with three plus interceptions on the road, and of course
one of those was a big win at Texas. But
you're seeing the cracks and the armor there. And the
thing with Georgia though, is that they just need to
have a little bit more confidence than some of those
other receivers. I think Carson Becky gotten in his own

(34:00):
head a little bit and he's starting to see ghosts
a little bit because he's not trusting the players around
him when he should. And it's incredible. Carson beck has
the most interceptions by a Georgia quarterback since Aaron Murray
was a quarterback back in twenty eleven, so it spent
thirteen years of great quarterback play and now it's just
kind of above average quarterback play, and that's holding Georgia

(34:22):
back a little bit. I think Florida would have beaten
Georgia this past week if DJ Lagway, Florida's quarterback doesn't
get injured in the second quarter and has to be
pulled and they have to bring in a walk on
from Yale to be quarterback there. This is a one
possession game in the fourth quarter, and Florida was obviously
leading still at halftime as well when Lagway went out.

(34:43):
So Georgia does have some issues, but that defense is
just so damn good that they're going to be able
to beat anybody else on the schedule. It's just you
can't allow Carson Beck to throw three interceptions on the
road down the line, because they got a big, gigantic
one this week at Old Miss.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Ole.

Speaker 11 (34:59):
Miss is a dangerous team that is desperate. They have
to beat Georgia to stay alive in the playoff race
with two losses already, and that's a dangerous spot going
into Oxford against a desperate team that can score a
lot of points.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Got two final questions.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
My first question I started with a statement, I'm so
glad to see Clems and lose dat Dabbo. I don't
hate him as a person, He's just annoying to me.
So the fictional version of him, I'm just annoyed by
all the time. So I was so happy to see
them lose to Louisville. So, okay, Miami wins and there
were some real nutty plays. They just continue to win
though SMU wins. Can SMU beat Miami and win the ACC.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (35:39):
Because of the ground game, the way they're able to
run the ball, and their defensive line, they're able to
stop the run considerably well. They were going into this
game in the top three nationally and rush defense if
I recall, and they slowed Pitt down, jumped all over them.
The difference for SMU here of late has really been
Kevin Jennings a quarterback. They inserted him as a starter.
I think after Week three and at that BYU loss,

(36:01):
they lost by three, and they have really turned things
around and they're finding their identity offensively, which is a
run first team that can hit the big play down
the field. And then also defensively, they're just really good.
The good thing for SMU is that it's an incredible story.
You know, they're undefeated in the ACC right now. Last
year they were a group of five team right and

(36:22):
they only had fourteen months from the day they found
out they were going to join the ACC to join
and then started the season to prepare their roster. So
what did they do? R At Lashley went out and
got thirteen offensive or defensive linemen in the portal, all
of them with playing experience at a power conference team.
They built the depth up and that's helped them. They've

(36:44):
had to deal with injuries, but because of that depth
they built up, they're able to.

Speaker 10 (36:48):
Contend in the ACC.

Speaker 11 (36:49):
And I most definitely think they could give Miami some problems,
because a lot of teams have given Miami problems. It's
just that cam Ward, their quarterback, is an absolute magician
and puts his foot down on the throat of everybody
in the fourth quarter, and they're able to pull away
in games. SMUs built a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Final question, This is a purely hypothetical. I'd like to
say it again. It is so hypothetical that I am
floating on a cloud riding a unicorn. That's how hypothetical
that this question is. Okay, let's just say the University
of Arkansas head coach Sam Pittman retires at the end
of this year. You know, he's got a bad hip,
He's had a good run. Nobody wants to see him
get fired. But again, the program, hypothetically not really, So

(37:29):
we're riding the unicorn right now.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Who do you think Arkansas's first call would be to
Rehd Lashley or Baryotem.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
I think it'd probably be bary otom because of the
connection there that's already established between Hunter Yurchik the ad
and obviously bary Odam being the defensive cornerator previously at
Arkansas and has sec at coaching experience with man Zoo,
I think he'd probably be the first call. I think
Gret Lashly would definitely be up there too. I have
my own opinions on who they should hire.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Feel free to give it. We're an opinion based opportunity
right here.

Speaker 11 (38:00):
Oh, I'd hire Ret Lashley in a moment, Arkansas guy
gets the program. I think, I don't know what his
thinking is. Really that's a dream job for him. I mean,
this guy grew up a Razorbacks fan, went to school there,
and I think he would probably jump at the opportunity
if it's right financially, the NIL situation, the recruiting aspect

(38:24):
of it, and right. Lashley just wins everywhere he goes.
I think he's perfectly built as a head coach in
this new era with NIL and revenue sharing. I think
he'd be a great hire there. I do wonder the
Arkansas Boosters how they would see the potential of hiring
another SMU head coach, Morris, I think, but the two

(38:47):
are not related, obviously. It's just that they couldn't be
further apart, especially with the way the programs have been
built in separate ways. So he'd be the guy i'd
hire absolutely, he'd be the guy.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Right a unicle.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That's all. It's a completely hypothetical rite in a unicorn situation.
I'd just like to say that again. Brandon Marcelo, you
guys follow Brandon at Brandon Marcelo or at B Marcelo.
Excuse me, but I follow you on Instagram too? Is
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your Twitter?

Speaker 10 (39:14):
Yeah, it's just it's Brandon Marcelo on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Okay, so B Marcelo on Twitter, but Brandon Marcelo on Instagram.
Follow Brandon. He is my absolute favorite writer and all
of college football. Brandy, good to see you, and we'll
talk to you again next week.

Speaker 10 (39:25):
All right, see you, Bobby A right?

Speaker 5 (39:26):
See body?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
All right? A new segment called oddly Numbered List. I
make a list and I I don't commit to a
number like top five, top ten. Oh cool.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
This is an oddly numbered list.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
And my oddly numbered list this week are sports personalities
that are awesome, and there are nine of them. It's
an oddly number. It's odd number. Okay, So I call
it an oddly numbered list, and I'm gonna start at
number one. And the reason this list is what it is.
It's one how much time I spend with him now,
not personally. Some of them don't know I exist, but

(39:57):
I listen to them. How much time I invested to
them as a kid. Some of them that factors in
and if, like something big and sports happens, so I
go in search what they have to say, Like that's
the ranking system for my oddly numbered lists, and we're
gonna start at number one, And at number one sports
personalities that I love and depend on, I'm going Rich Eisen.
He's awesome for a few reasons. One, he's awesome too,

(40:19):
he's awesome. Three, he's awesome. That's all I needed, nothing
else good, Like young loved him on Sports Center. Now
I've got to fill in on a show. Didn't even
meet him when I filled in on a show because
he was gone. Obviously, it's not like he's gonna be
there to meet me when I fill in on a show.
Otherwise he could do his own show. But he let
me fill in for a couple of days. We have
talked to him on this show a couple of times.

(40:39):
He's been to my house. We went to dinner with them.
Like he works for NFL Network, so like he's got insides,
even if he acts like he does it like you'll
have opinions, and I know, like you know this because
you know this. It's not even because like you're just
speculating this. Number one Rich Eisen. Number two Colin Cowherd.
I listened to Colin Cowherd probably three days week. I

(41:01):
listened to the best of Colin Cowherd, which is the
boiled down version of like his four hour show. Maybe
it's a three hour show. I'm not sure, so it's
like forty five minutes. It just like he and I
love them. He comes on with a big monologue and
it's great, and he has big opinions. And he he
said to me once, he was like, it doesn't matter
if you're right or not. Just be entertaining. And I

(41:22):
was like, that's awesome because he has a lot of
opinions and he's probably wrong a lot of times, but
who cares. He's like, who cares? Just have big opinions
that entertaining to people. Who cares if you're right, Just
have opinions. And number two Colin Cowherd and number three
Dan Patrick, much like rich Eisen earlier, spending a lot
of time with Dan Patrick as a kid watching Sports Center,

(41:46):
Dan Patrick's television show that also exists now, as does
his radio show, and like the dan Ettes, Like, I'm
a fan and I would watch the television show when
my hours were a bit different, I would watch television
show all the time. I remember that af simulator in
his studio and they had a basketball court.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
It is awesome.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
I was like, man, I wanted to do that some day.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
And so I have a golf simulator like in the
studio at home. So yeah, Dan Patrick. I just also
like his interview style. I think he's the most famous.
Yeah all yeah, yeah, because movies like Sandler movies. Dan
Patrick is at number three and catchphrases right, he had

(42:29):
to catch raight in Fuego. You know that's Damn Patrick, right,
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
You know you're too young.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
That was gonna say you're too young.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, hey, shut up, you're too young. Yeah yeah, it's
just right. It's just getting me to move on. And
number three on my Oddly Numbered list is Dan Patrick.
At number four are the guys from Part of My Take,
which is a podcast that I listened to. It's on barstool,
and they have really no background in playing sports. They're

(43:03):
just funny and Bigcat and PFT, which, by the way,
he was known because he just wrote so many comments
on the message board of Pro Football Talk that he
that's how they found him. He would just write funny
messages in the comment.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Section like stupid comments or yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Whatever, yeah yeah, but uh they Monday, Wednesday, Friday. There.
I probably listened to two out of the three of
their episodes, not fully Gonna fall asleep, because I listened
to at night when I go to sleep. I never
heard the back of anybody's podcast. By the way, I
always fall as any of them. An it's it's the
difference because my wife when we married, I watched television
every night falling asleep because I slept with the TV on.

(43:42):
Never had a bedroom, so slept in the living room.
TV was always on, so I always slept with the
TV on even as I so that compromise them that
my wife was. I just listened to a podcast. Now
I listened under my pillow. So they are they're at
number four because they're very entertaining. Number five Bill Simmons.

Speaker 7 (43:59):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah. When it comes to NBA, nobody is better than
Bill Simmons. Also, just like his story of like blog
being a Boston guy blogging doing grant Land, you know
esp and pop culture, the meshing and melding of pop
culture and sports. Going to start the Ringer selling the
Ringer like mogul and also have friends that work for him,

(44:22):
two of them one still does, my brother in law.
So Bill Simmons is at number five on my list.
Number six Ryan Roussillo who now works for Bill Simmons
at the Ringer again massive NBA guy, but also Ryan Rosseillo,
him and Van Pelt used to do a show together
way back in the day on ESPN Radio that I

(44:42):
listened to. I listened to Rosillo and learn a lot
of what to watch on my NBA Sunday ticket because
I have Sunday ticket for NBA. Yeah, it's also called
lead pass. Yeah that's it.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yeah. So Rosillo is six.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
STP's at seven Scott Vanpel and here's why I never
miss a Sunday SVP podcast because it's the he's the
only person who puts out a podcast on Sunday because
he does it right after the games on Saturday night.
Now mcshaye does that. Who we're gonna have on a
little bit. Yeah, But Scott Vanpel and Stanford Steve do
a podcast after all the college games on Saturday night
so they can talk about it, and they have it

(45:20):
up for Sunday, and so on Sunday when I'm going
to sleep, nobody's put out a new episode. So I
listen to that on Sunday night. So I listened to
SVP ever and also he was Sports Center, you know,
next Generation, and he does a live TV like after
Monday night football, right yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
Every Sports Center.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Yeah, it's SVP Center or whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
And he's like the only OG still around.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
But I don't think he's Oh, he's not. Oh, he's
like m he's like an MG. But Kevin's younger, but
he's not an OG just because you're younger. You can't
say who the ogs them is the middle Yeah, he's
a middle G.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
Like you don't put him the same like Timeline as
the rich Ision' the same.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That's like Stuart Scott, right, yeah, that's the Richison stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
That's he's not. Oh, And you could look this up
and see when he came on. But the o's are Berman,
Dan Patrick, Isaenc came a bit. Craig Kilbourne was an OE.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
I don't even remember the Killbourn.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Exactly, so shut up, got him, didn't I for who?

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Van Pelt?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah? Van Pelt?

Speaker 5 (46:23):
And then when did like Dan Patrick come on an OG?
He's an MG though he's the biggest MG.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
He's like a middle of the O M and OG.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
You can't fight for that. He's an MG.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
I think he's like a middle OG.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
He's a middle G. It's okay, guys, you both can
be right.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
No, I'm right. He cannot declare he's an OG. Mike
dann Patrick was eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, there's a big difference in eighty nine two thousand
and one. That's a big difference. Okay, that's number seven
SVP number eight. Nick Wright, who is one of the
smartest guys in all of talking about sports period. He
comes out, he get says to and I'm like, dang,
I thought that I just didn't even notice say it
like that. Like he is. He works at Fox Sports,
he does the television show neck Wright is really really smart,

(47:10):
like probably too smart talk about sports.

Speaker 8 (47:11):
He is a weird way of growing on you. Yep,
Like at first you're like, who is this guy? And
then you listen to me, you're like, actually he's right.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, or you're like wow, he's way smarter than I am.
Like a challenge him to a fistfight, because he says
stuff sometimes you disagree with and you're like, you know what,
I think, I've been convinced. And then finally at number nine,
new on my Oddly Numbered list because new into my
life and he's been on this show as well. But
I like to listen to him talk about football and scouting.
Is John Middlecough because he was once an NFL scout.

(47:41):
He scouted for the Eagles and Andy Reid and now
he does a podcast underneath the Cowherd's network. So at
number nine, John Middlecough, who also does a golf podcast.
Listen to that as much. I like to hear the
football stuff. But his is called four and out three
and out three and out three out three. Now, So
there you go. That's my Oddly Numbered list, odd number

(48:05):
nine nine. I know I like it. Thank you never
see another list like it. None, Wait till you see
the other numbers.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
I'm gonna come the one, twenty two, one day.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Whoa your all day?

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Anybody you put on the list.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
Those are all tops for me. I just say Bill
Simmons were still I listened to a lot. I also
listened to Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah Moved the Sticks.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
That's a big one that I listened to.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I don't know them. Are they good?

Speaker 8 (48:28):
Yeah, they're like I've heard the commercial for it, Yeah,
NFL Draft six Draft and like what network?

Speaker 6 (48:33):
NFL network.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Oh so they're in an NFL yeah Podcastyeah.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
They both work for and they're very like it's much
more like deep analysis of players and teams and rather
than like opinionated.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I love opinions even if they're not right, even if
they're not right, as long as they're entertaining. Okay, now
let's get over you want, Mike, you wanna go to
commercial first? Yeah, it's good commercial. Okay, we're gonna come
back with Todd mcshae. All right, all right, here is
longtime NFL draft analyst Todd mcshae. He has a new
podcast called The McShay Show, where it's just in depth

(49:04):
on I've been listening and watching and I'll tell him this.
I found out on TikTok. I was like, oh mihe
does a show. Now, this is cool, but he does.
I mean, it's a lot of football, and I would
say he obviously talks about how good players are and
possibly the draft, but he does more than just that.
I think, because I know him from that, I only
associate him with that right now, Yeah, meaning the draft stuff.

(49:24):
But it's a really good show. You can follow him
on Twitter at micshay thirteen. But again it's called The
McShay Show. And here he is, Todd McShay. Hey, Todd,
big fan, Glad to have you on the show. Thanks
for spending a few minutes with us.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Of course, how you doing, man good?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
You know, I kind of discovered your new venture, like
I discovered everything in the whole world now on TikTok
and I was like, damn, sche's doing a podcast now
and then it's all with Bill and Ringer and so
congratulations because I'm already a fan. It just feels like
when it comes to college and NFL, you're pretty dialed
into both. How's the transition been.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
It's been fun. It's you know, it's it's not what
I expected. You know, I was with ESPN for seventeen
years and you know, kind of developed my career and
through the NFL Draft and then doing college games for
about twelve years on the sideline as a sideline analyst,
and so when when that relationship ended, let's put it

(50:18):
that way, I wasn't sure where, you know, what the
next step was. So I kind of interviewed and talked
to like nine different places and finally found a home
and it feels right with Spotify and the Ringer, And
I always said, like, if I'm gonna do it, if
I'm gonna come back, I just want to do it
my way, with my people, handcuffs off, and just be

(50:41):
able to share more of the process, right, like not
just ninety second clips with video over it, and with
the producer in my year telling me you know when
to wrap up. And I'm sure you can relate to this,
Like there's something freeing about just being yourself with your people,
being able to go on and if it lasts fifty minutes, great,

(51:02):
if it lasts ninety minutes, great, But be able to
just kind of be authentically you without any restriction. So
that that part has been a blast. It's only two
weeks old. But the McShay show, you know, so far,
so good, I think, and we're having a lot of fun.
I know that.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah, I agree, And something you said there resonates because obviously,
like I hired all my friends we've been doing this
for a long time. But it's the little things too, like,
for example, the Richmond Spiders helmet that's behind you and
I watched clips. I'll listen to the podcast, and I
was like, okay, I've watched Macshae do draft analysis forever.
I've watched you do, but like, I didn't know your story,
but that helmet made me look into I had no
idea that did you walk on at Richmond in like

(51:37):
ninety five? Is that?

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Yeah? So I was a a I came from a
small town Swapscott in Massachusetts. Right, football is not it's
not a hotbed. It's not Georgia, Florida, Texas, California, and
wound up a coach Jim Reid, who coached Umassed for
a long time, brought a bunch of he was, you know,
in Massachusetts before to Boston College. When he got the

(52:01):
head coaching job at Richmond, h brought a bunch of
massholes down to Richmond, Virginia, and that was kind of
a culture shock for all of us. But I was
a preferred walk on, and I came to realize what
preferred meant was like, yeah, you can you can come
and get a great education, but you're going to be
a tackling dummy for a while and see if you
have a chance to actually, you know, contribute to this team.

(52:23):
So it was a great experience. I never thought I'd
be able to play with guys like Mark Magni, Sean
Barber went onto the NFL. Uh but but but it
kind of paved the way for me. I got injured
and wound up doing an undergraduate coaching gig with University
O Richmond, and that was kind of the I don't know,
the jumping off point for me, just sitting in an

(52:45):
office breaking down tape, doing all these like you know,
demeaning tasks at the time, but it got my foot
in the door and it was kind of the start
of all of us.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
And to your point, because you do this podcast and
you can go a bit more long form and you
can even pick the set behind you. I saw the
helmet and was like, I wonder what his relationship is
with Richmond, because again I'd only watch like you do
what you do really well on ESPN, which was you
would talk about the draft for the most part, and
you'd be the guy that I would watch a lot
of when it when it came time to actually honestly

(53:15):
making bets on who I thought was gonna fall were
but it was it was that and it was like
what you're doing now, which is really cool, is giving
a more look at it actually who you are. So
congratulations and I'm already a fan, so really looking forward to,
you know, the growth in the podcast space. And I
also enjoy I was listening to you talk about running
backs and how it's different than it used to be

(53:35):
back when we were a lot younger when they would
draft a bunch of running backs early. But there are
going to be a lot of running backs drafted early
for running backs this season, like multiple running backs. Why
do we think that is?

Speaker 4 (53:48):
It's interesting, you know. Part of it is I think
just football in general is cyclical, right, and I think
we got away from the running backs when when the
spread offense came in and you started to see it
was all about wide receivers and getting guys the ball
in space, and so I think the running back position
had to evolve to guys who weren't just built like

(54:09):
Eddie George, you know, and thirty thirty five carries a game,
pounding it away. Running backs now are an extension of
the you know, the run games and extension of the
past game. And and they've got to be able to
catch the football and be dynamic when they get in space,
because that's what everyone's trying to do is create these opportunities.
And so as the game has evolved, the running back

(54:31):
position has evolved. And now we're i mean even even
turning in, you know, tune into the NFL on Sundays,
like running backs are becoming a bigger and bigger factor.
And it's not like, you know, three guys in a
committee necessarily like just you know, the vast majority of
good teams have won and something a lot of times
like two really good running backs. Look at Detroit, right,

(54:52):
like Jamiir Gibbs, they use a first round pick. Terrible
decision to draft a running back in the first first round.
How is Brad Holmes the GM for Tennis for Detroit gonna,
you know, going to address all the important positions when
he's using one of those first round picks on a
running back. Well, now you've got Jamir Gibbs, you've got
David Montgomery. They're kind of a two headed monster. The

(55:13):
running game is setting up the passing game play action
is where is where Jerry Goff feeds off of. And
so we're starting to see that evolve, and I think
in college football you see the same. And now all
of a sudden, you've got a Nashtyon Genty who nobody
nationally really knew about coming into this year and now he's,
you know, probably the front runner for the Heisman Trophy
with the number he's putting up, numbers he's putting up

(55:34):
along with Dylan Gabriel from from Oregon and Travis Hunter
who's playing you know, both sides of the ball and
doing historic things. So with Genty, he's going to be
a top ten pick. But even beyond that, like Quinn
Shawn Jenkins and Traveon Henderson watching that one two duel
and what they were able to do against Penn State
and what they're doing for Ohio State. O'marion, o'marion Hampton

(55:57):
for North Carolina is having a huge year. Chlis Singleton,
the running back for Penn State. I mean, the list
goes on and on. It's unbelievable. Trev Trevor ETN from Georgia.
Kalel Mullings, a former linebacker now running back at Michigan
having a huge year. Dylan Sampson, anyone who's a fan
of the SEC watching what he's doing for Tennessee. So

(56:18):
this could be a historic year. Not necessarily first round
or even first two rounds, but when we get into
like the late second, third, fourth, fifth round, it could
be the most running backs we've seen come off the
board in a long long time.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I have a heavy bias because I have a relationship
with Deon Sanders Coach Prime.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
I've done it for a long time.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I love him, He's my favorite, So I love what
he's doing at Colorado. I have a heavy bias. But
I say that so too. If I ask you, how
do you feel like the it's not even an experiment anymore?

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Does it feel like that?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Because he's been there long enough, how do you feel
like Coach Prime has done at Colorado?

Speaker 4 (56:51):
I think it's been a massive success by any measurement.
You know, it started with his ability because of his
name and his brand and the way he promotes everything
that they do, and it turned a lot of people off.
But what it didn't do was turn off recruits from
coming and wan to play at Colorado. Colorado was one
and eleven two years ago. And we had Joel Kladd

(57:13):
on the show last week, and he obviously was a
three year starter at Colorado and is tied in very
well to Colorado. And I forget the number, but I
think they lost by like close to an average of
a twenty points that year when they were one and
eleven before Coach Prime came in, and so obviously the
attention they got, the commercials, the interviews, and everything that

(57:36):
came with it. It felt like a little bit of a
disappointment when they won what was it four games a
year ago at four or five games, but it was
still a huge turnaround from the product on the field
the year before that he was there, and this year,
the attention, like the national media has not been on
Colorado as much as it was a year ago in
the first year that he was there. This is a

(57:58):
damn good football team, man, Like they're they're protecting Shador
Sanders better, their defense is a lot better. Like they're
I'm not gonna sit here and say they're gonna win
the Big twelve because you got BYU playing at a
great level. You've got Kansas State, Iowa State had the
loss last week, but Colorado's in it. And when's the
last time we could say, like Colorado in November is

(58:20):
legitimately in the Big twelve race. So that's been phenomenal.
See the other thing too, man, I'm excited about And
I was talking to Joel Cloud about this as well.
I I think two weeks ago and one of our
first shows, I made the comment, and I believe it,
Like we have to take it seriously when Coach Prime

(58:40):
says I'm gonna dictate terms in the NFL draft. We've
seen it before, John Elway, we saw it with Eli Manning.
Like every once in a while, someone steps in and says,
you know what, your system doesn't apply, and I'm not
gonna allow my son to go to an organization that
has no chance of winning. You know, with David Epper
is the owner in Carolina, there's no chance he's going

(59:03):
to let his son go and play Carolina. There's probably
no chance he's gonna let him play in Cleveland. So
that's going to be such an interesting facet And I
also it was interesting after I put out that clip,
someone brought it to my attention that Coach Prime had
liked our you know, our video. I think it was
a video that we did on Instagram right, just like
a minute and a half clip on me talking about

(59:23):
how it is it is serious that coach Prime is
going to dictate terms where Shador goes and maybe even
where Travis Hunter goes. And and he liked that clip.
And I'm well aware that he's not sitting around watching
the Micshay Show in the first two weeks of you know,
it's inception, and so like the how intentional he is
with that and having someone that's scouring through social media

(59:46):
to find clips to help kind of promote the concept
and let everyone in the National Football League know, hey,
this is real. Like, I'm going to be a problem
for some of your organizations that want to draft my son,
and that's going to be a fascinating story to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
You mentioned David Tepper, owner of Carolina. Let's stay on
the owners for a second. Jerry Jones, uh is I mean,
I don't know, is he too old to do this anymore?

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
It's it's hard to say that he's too old to
do this anymore, but I think if he if he
wants to help himself in the Cowboys organization, there has
to be a little bit more checks and balances. There's
got to be people in that organization that can tell
him no, they can have foresight that can that can
advise and guide a little bit better some of the

(01:00:31):
offseason moves. I mean, you look at some of the
people that they were that they let go, you know,
you know, Amari Cooper being one of them, and the
Tony Pollard Tennessee. I know Tennessee is not winning, but
my goodness is he is he effective as a running
back there? And can you imagine like the difference between
bringing back Ezekiel Elliott who wasn't even dressed this week

(01:00:53):
because of basically a suspension for not attending meetings and
all the other issues. Just it feels like a mess.
And to see that, you know, to see Dak Prescott,
they caught him saying, you know, we bleep and suck
and just like it feels like for the first time,
it's not just like this big Cowboys show and the

(01:01:14):
product isn't as good as all the hype. It feels
like things are falling apart in that organization. And to
spend the money they did on Dak, when they spent
that money, which meant they had to pay a lot
more because they got so late in the process, rather
than setting the market a little bit earlier. It just
poorly managed in terms of the salary cap and the

(01:01:35):
players that they're they're paying versus the players they're letting go.
Would to me stands out the most from this last offseason.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Two more organizational questions and they can kind of be
in the same ord. The Bengals have to win a
bunch and the Jets have to win a bunch. They
both have had pretty subpar starts to the season. Can
either one of those teams win enough games to make
the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I think they're both capable, you know, talent wise, I
truly think they're both capable, But the margin of error
that they've put themselves in is just it's hard to overcome.
So if there are any two teams that talent wise
are capable of doing it, it's the Bengals and the Jets.
The Bengals they it seems like they always with Joe Burrow,

(01:02:21):
They've always always got enough to slow starts. The contract
situations with their wide receivers absolutely played into that. Early
this year, they're starting to pull it all together. I
think they'll make a legitimate run at it, but I
don't have enough confidence that they'll actually be able to win.
You know, what was the Borough quote before last week,
We gotta win seven out of nine. That's doable. You know,

(01:02:43):
we can do that paraphrasing, but essentially that's what he said.
And yet it is doable. But it ain't gonna be easy,
you know, And so I just I wouldn't bet on
them being being able to make that kind of run.
But if again, if there was a team that could
do it, I think that one of them for the Jets.
Like you see the Richmond Spider's helmet Joe Douglas pointing

(01:03:05):
to the wrong one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Joe Douglas.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
I played with Joe, he's the general manager of the Jets.
Played with Joe at Richmond. So I've known him for
you know, almost thirty years now. He's put together a
really good roster. Ownership with what he Johnson has made
it difficult. Just check out Bill Belichick and all of
his quotes. And I know there's a rivalry there and
frustration in their history, but he's not wrong with a

(01:03:28):
lot of things he's saying. And so it's difficult. You know,
when when ownership has its hand in some of the decisions,
that plays a factor. Aaron Rodgers does not look the same.
The injuries definitely slowed him down. He's not able to
move around the way he used to. That feels like
there's a lack of tempo and urgency in that offense.

(01:03:49):
But this past week they looked like they finally looked
like the Jets that you'd expect to see DeVante Adams.
The addition is huge. Garrett Wilson still playing at an
extremely high level. Brisse Hall is one of the best,
most talented running backs in the NFL. Like they've got
the talent. I think defensively, they they've been a little
disappointing in terms of their tackling, their linebackers and all that.

(01:04:09):
But I don't poll for any organization, but I appreciate
what Joe has done there. The players he's drafted, you know,
the players that they've brought in, they've done a phenomenal job.
It's just can this organization gel and can they play
their best ball down the stretch, which they're gonna have
to do and they're gonna have to go on a
run similar to the one we were talking about with
the Bengals, like probably seven out of nine wins and

(01:04:31):
that's that's not easy to do in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Last question multipart, but I do want to talk about
four rookie quarterbacks and how you feel like they have
played based on how you felt like they would play. Obviously,
Caleb Williams Jane Daniels. I love Bonicks. I didn't love Bonicks,
but I love bo Nick now because that dude just
goes like he's an idiot and he's awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Like in the same game. Also, who else am I free?

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Oh? I drank May? Yeah, So talk about those four
quarterbacks and how you feel their development's been and kind
of the stealing for each of these guys.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I mean we could go on for an hour, right,
I'll try to kind of be brief and sum it up.
Jaden Daniels is there's a case study that general managers
should should study, and I think more importantly, quarterbacks in
college football are that legitimately have a chance to go
play in the NFL should study. Jaden was a third

(01:05:26):
it was like a fifth round prospect going into his
first year at LSU. Developed talked to Brian Kelly before
a Tennessee game that they wind up getting blown out
on but he he understands like what I do, and
told me, like, listen, stick with Jaden. He's special. We
know he's a special athlete, but you don't see yet
on tape. Is in games is what I see in practice,

(01:05:48):
the anticipation, the ability to throw guys open when he
trusts his read. He's a phenomenal passer and we hadn't
seen that yet. And he said, I'm pissed off this
week because everyone in the local media is saying Jayden
doesn't have an interception. He's been tremendous. He's like, I
just want him to throw an interception. I want him to,
like get to realize, like the world's not going to
end if he trusts to read, throws the ball and

(01:06:12):
it doesn't work out and he throws a pick. And
I'll never forget the first play in that game. They
had a design comeback route and I could just hear
him in meetings, but Jaden, I don't care if it's
an interception, I don't care what happens. Let it rip.
Trust your read and he did and it was a
perfect throw completion. And even though they lost that game,
it was like from that point on, he kept getting
better and what we saw in his second and final year.

(01:06:35):
I said coming out, like, I think Caleb Williams has
tools that are unique and special and if developed properly,
can be one of the elites of all time. And
you see some comparisons with Ian and Patrick Mahomes. But
if I was dropped on this earth and was just
given the twenty twenty three tape of the two quarterbacks,
I'd say, oh, yeah, Jayden's the guy and Jaden had

(01:06:56):
with Mike Denbrock, his offensive coordinator at LSU. Jaden came
into the NFL and it was a lot of similar
stuff and it was very similar system. So not only
did he have like fifty six starts or whatever it
was between Arizona State and LSU and have the opportunity
to grow in a more of a pro style system
as he got to LSU, but he played in a

(01:07:17):
system that prepared him for the NFL. So I think
the combination of the game experience that Jaden had and
the developing that he did in his final year and
a half there at LSU, and the fact for NFL
teams to look and say, you know what, how critically
important important was it to Jadeen his rookie year to
play in a system that he was comfortable in. And

(01:07:39):
so I say that because what he's doing is so
unique and special. Rookie quarterbacks should not play at the
level that Jaden Daniels is playing this year, and what
is Washington now seven and two? So this is this
is a rarity, but there's something to learn from this.
And then you look at Caleb and Caleb after the
first three weeks, we're like, oh no, and watching Jaden,

(01:08:01):
how great he was playing. Maybe Caleb's not what we
thought he was going to be. Maybe some of the
you know, the backyard football, the sandlot stuff. Maybe he's
just he's always going to try to play hero ball.
But then he started to really make progress from like
weeks three or four for like three or four weeks,
and now in the last couple of weeks he's coming
back down to earth a little bit. The problem for
Caleb is if it keeps on this trajectory, it's going

(01:08:24):
to be just another rookie quarterback going into his second
year with a new head coach, a new offensive coordinator
and starting over again. And so hopefully Chicago makes the
right decision if that's the route they go with a
new staff and brings in someone that actually knows how
to develop quarterbacks because Caleb is absolutely special. He is
Jaden and Caleb are unique, They're different. They have a

(01:08:47):
chance to be elite quarterbacks in the NFL. So that's
those two. Drake May is kind of exactly where we
thought an organization that does not have the supporting cast
around him. Hopefully he doesn't have to play as a rookie,
but we all kind of know he's going to play
as a rookie, right because they all do. And I've
been encouraged, like I was at the Jets game. I
went down there with my son and watched the Jets game,

(01:09:07):
and before he had the concussion and got injured, I
was really encouraged by like how poised he was, how
comfortable he was. He's not there as a passer yet,
he's the system's completely different and it's been a big
jump for him, but you see some of the positive
signs that I think if New England next year can
bring in some more weapons, protect him better another year
of experience, I think Drake May is going to have

(01:09:28):
a chance to be a solid to above average quarterback
in the league. And then Bo Nicks I didn't see
it as much as Sean Payton. And I give Sean
Payton a lot of credit, and there's going to be
bumps in the road. And after the first couple of weeks,
I kept thinking to myself, maybe Sean shouldn't have been
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preseason hype of Bow and maybe he set the bar
too high and so the expectation is never going to
meet it. But he but he loves Bo Nicks and
that's his guy, and he's been looking for his guy,
the next Drew Brees. And I'm not saying he's gonna
be Drew Brees, because you know, there's not many that
God makes right, but but I do think that he
is the right fit. And we're seeing Bo like he's mature, competitive,

(01:10:12):
it just loves the game, coaches, son, all those sorts
of things, and you can see the development week in
and week out. There's gonna be you know, setbacks. We
saw it this Sunday, but you can see Bo Nicks
is the right guy for Sean Payton. And that's fun
to watch too, as a guy sits in this room
and watch his tape all the time like it's it's
not just about the process of where they get drafted.

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It's about where they land and what do they have
around them to develop? And clearly Jayden has the right
things in place to develop, which is shocking to say
from a Washington organization with Daniel Snyder at the top
for so long, they couldn't do that. Caleb does not yet,
Drake May does not yet. Bo Nix It will keep
getting better, but bo Nix is in the right place,

(01:10:55):
and that's all you can ask for, is a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I want to encourage everybody to check out The McShay Show.
I'm already a man as a fan. Do you do it?

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Three episodes a week, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Yeah, we're doing it, so Saturday night is just during
the season. We're doing it after the primetime game. This
is our first week live. I'm glad you brought it up.
The last two weeks we've taped it. This is the
first week we're gonna be live on YouTube and Spotify
right after the primetime game. And we figured this is
let's get the kinks out the first two weeks. Right
now we're going into week three, and I mean, who

(01:11:26):
doesn't want to talk about LSU Alabama right after that game,
and I know there's gonna be lunatics that they're still
up that want to yell at their screen and see
like we're the place to do it. So probably around
eleven thirty whenever, whenever Herbie and Fowler they sign off
on that game, we're gonna jump right on and we're
gonna we're gonna talk about that game and some of
the other big games on Saturday, and then every Tuesday

(01:11:47):
and Thursday, we'll kind of college Football Reaction, college Football
look Ahead Tuesday and Thursday respectively, and always with the
NFL and NFL Draft tied in, and when the season
wraps up, it'll probably be two shows still on Tuesday
Thursday and just a heavy focus on the l NFL
Draft in like you know, February, March, and April.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Go search up the McShay show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Todd, big fan again, thank you for your time and
hopefully I'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 10 (01:12:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
I'd love that, Bobby. I appreciate the time with you, man.

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Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
All right, we're just about done. What is your one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Favorite story slash takeaway from the weekend? Kevin, I go
to you first.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
Probably I'm enjoying watching orgon organ I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Joy to watch them get I don't know if they're
getting better, but they're getting better.

Speaker 8 (01:13:48):
It seems like they are when all these teams, like
the Georgia still barely beat Florida, Like these teams are
barely hanging on and Oregon is just almost separating themselves now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
And especially because of the first of the year, they
were almost losing. Yeah, it's not just the boys state game.
It happened a few times, yeah, Idaho, I think, yeah,
so it was.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
It's I agree, and we are a bit biased because
we were up there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
We were coach landing. But yeah, they are like really
at the peaking at the perfect time.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
It feels like you see, our boy Tess went down
though I did see that.

Speaker 8 (01:14:16):
I don't know if it's like I think it was
a broken collarbone, but always I didn't know that it
was definitely a shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
That sucks. He's gone then for six, probably six eight weeks,
broken collarbone.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
Right, broken collar bone.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I love to play internet doctor y, but my buddy
Chris broke his collarbon in high school. He was out
six to eight weeks, so he based it all off
of that, literally, the only thing I based it off of. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:14:39):
It doesn't say details that, it just says I think
he's getting further evalue evaluations as they say, did.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
You watch any sports at all?

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I didn't watch anything this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
I just cooked and chilled with the lady.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Reads fiance was in town, so he was worthless to
us on this show.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
I didn't even play pickleball man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Worth that's Oh, there'll be new rankings. We had quite
the match yesterday. There'll be somebody that is rising up
the rankings. I can't wait to hear it. So the
new pickleball rankings will be out then the next episode
we will play once this week. I'm sure if you
guys want to play, like Wednesday or something, but it

(01:15:18):
is not going to be pretty for some folks if
they don't get some wins in. That's all I'm going
to say.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
Did any are there any new additions?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
Okay, solid, Yes, Edie, did you go yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
I did not no, no, no, yesterday. There are there
will be a new addition and we had somebody new
play for the first time. You can't be in the
list because you got to have two appearances before you
get on the list. Who took me to the championship
match and gave me gave me some business?

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Yeah, I did not win, did not win, but gave
me some business in the championship match. So that's all
I'm gonna say. Don't worry about it. How about that?
D w a h boom, Dwight. It's the way. Don't
worry about it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
Yes, Eddie, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
The Cowboys? What what do you talk about? It doesn't matter.
That's the best takeaway of the weekend. I mean the Cowboys,
they suck.

Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
It looks like a depressed well, it's.

Speaker 7 (01:16:13):
Hard to even watch football, like I even I tried
to watch the game last night, the Minnesota Vikings and
let's see if they can win this game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Fell asleep halftime. We didn't get to talk about case
these Jets went over the Texans because we did the
show Thursday after. Yeah, so I'll give you a second
talk about that here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, I mean it was probably probably a typical uh well,
yeah it was. It was a typical first half of
the Jets. That guy Malachi Corley that we picked up
last year third rounder. Everyone was like hyping them up.
They're like, where where, where's he been? Where's he been?
Then he, uh, you know, gets his gets his moment,
runs into the end zone, drops the ball right before
it crossed the road.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I don't know why people still do that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I don't know how so right, so the first half
was kind of what this whole year has been. But
I guess there was some kind of pep talk at
the second half because they came out swinging man Garrett
Wilson looking pretty good. I had that amazing catch that
everyone's been compared to Obijay's catch in MetLife Stadium. So
I don't know, we'll see. We got Arizona coming up,
and the Colts.

Speaker 9 (01:17:12):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I don't I think the Bills are the only team
we play coming up that is over five hundred. Every
team that we play is under five hundred. Sold us
in US, including us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Listen to the tone of his voice, Texans man, let's go.
So I don't like I'll end on this. I don't
like I playing two fantas football leagues. I don't like
playing two leagues. I like playing once. I can put all
my eggs in that basket and not have to worry
about who's playing who. And do have teams only, but
I have two close groups. But in the league, I

(01:17:46):
playing with Kevin Klue, my trainer. I'm like, of all
twelve teams in the league, I'm like third overall in points,
but I was like one in six. So luckily they
have that rule. Both leagues now do where six teams
to go to the playoffs, but the sixth spot goes
to the person who has the most points. It's not
in the top five, Okay, so it and I love

(01:18:06):
the rule because they're just it's just unlucky sometimes when
you play teams that are putting up a bunch of points. Yeah.
So the record hasn't been good in that league, but
I've been just scoring like crazy, like crazy, like crazy.
And so last week Dak put up like a forty spot,
and I forget. I thought the game was over to me,
but Dak put up a forty spot ended up when
winning my game because I woke up and I was like,

(01:18:28):
oh my god, I won. I remember because I I
don't know why I stopped watching the game. It was
it was a terrible game, was it? It scored late?
Turned out okay, Yeah, so I ended up winning because
Dak put up that forty I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Logged on this morning, I was, I was way down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Do you know? You know? Having my team, they put
up a significant amount of points. They ended up winning
me the game. Can you think of anybody put up
significant points? Zay Flowers he did put up a lot
of points by something I wouldn't have seen. Jackson Smith
and Jig but put up a yeah. Yeah, he caught
a lot again and a couple of touchdowns. Oh I
had him on the bench. Dang it. He had like

(01:19:05):
forty points. So in that league where I was like
one and whatever, I think, now I'm gonna other. Are
we nine weeks in nine? I think now four and
five I've won, Like, but.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
I don't even need a run. I got so many points.
I'm gonna have that six spot anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
But big shout out to the those games where you
don't think you're gonna win and you went because I
hated the opposite when it happens, and it's opposite because
that's happened to me too, where I'm like, I got this,
I'm going to bed, and you wake up and you're.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Like, he scored seventy one points.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
So that's what's up. Thank you guys, and that's gonna
do her. Does basketball start today? College basketball? What's today?

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
Monday?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Monday? I saw a bunch of games, maybe weed in Arkansas,
not today. So I know you guys play about when
we played yeah in Arkansas, though no I think they
would be here. We would come and play here, but
that would be so cool.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
I mean I would like that, but would.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Let's go. That's it. Thank you guys, and we will
see you next week. Goodbye, everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Hollo ed.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
We never blow whistles. I'm blowing. We never blue to
start it, okay, thank you? Here to go.

Speaker 9 (01:20:08):
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(01:20:29):
producer at Mike Diestro, but most importantly, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
You for listening.

Speaker 9 (01:20:33):
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