25W: LIVE From Tucson! + Bobby's Bad Investment + Arizona Head Coach Brent Brennan

The guys are in Tucson, Arizona after making the trip out west to film Too Much Access with the Arizona Wildcats football team, and Bobby talks about his bad investments on NFT's. Plus, Arizona head football coach, Brent Brennan, sits down with Bobby and Eddie to talk about his Mt. Rushmore of music, first year as head coach in the program, and much more! 

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's a podcast called twenty five Wists Stuck in Football
and they go wear a whist So, yeah, it's too bad,
but what don't you expect? It's a podcast called twenty
five Whistles line. All right, we're in twos on Arizona.
Thank you guys, twenty five whistles. Uh, we're gonna get

(00:24):
with the head coach, Coach Brennan in just a few minutes. Wait,
Brent Brennan. Brent Brennan. Confusing name, Brent bren bb Oh gosh,
you're Bobby bone. No. No, no, listen to me, Brent
bran No, but it's two syllables of that Brent Nobody.
Still it starts in Brent Brannan Bent. Okay, Yeah, that's

(00:46):
so anyway. Coach Brennan, who is at Arizona, which it's
a weird situation for him because he comes in after
Arizona was awesome last year. They're expecting to be awesome
this year. And if you don't know, if you're not
completely dialed in, you're just like, congrats on season, let's
do it again, and he's like, I wasn't here last year. Yeah,
and a lot of times not the case. He's in

(01:06):
an interesting situation. Always been kind of a West coast guy, though, Yeah,
you know all the schools. When it came from San
Jose State, Eddie had to bring up in the interview
how they beat us at Arkansas. I wasn't gonna bring
it up. I didn't bring it up at Western Kentucky.
It's stupid. It was a big win for him, man,
one of his biggest win.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
The best part was I told Eddie on the plane
when I was doing some prep stuff. I was like, Hey,
did you know about this? And he's like, no, does
Bobby know? And I was like, I don't know, Probably
he does.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Left it went right over there the next year and.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
He's like, don't tell Bobby.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'll never bring it up. Give that to me. Well,
there was a ball behind him to and Eddie spotted
the ball and was like, hey, so that's coming up
in a few minutes. I did want to talk about
this because I don't know how many of you guys
were were doing top shot. Top shot shot was buying
those uh like NFT NBA oh oh. I did it
for a little bit. I did about a year.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, I invested two hundred dollars and then cashed out
at one night. Oh so you got out out, Yes,
that's done.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Done. So I was reading a story about them because
you are buddy Steve lunch boxes. I just remember you
guys would stay in like buy top Shot look for
moments NFTs.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, And so I did see last night where Top
Shot is now paying if you have one of their
one of one moments because people were spending one hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars. Yeah, one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars on some of those big ones. They are
guaranteeing for every one of those moments. Now twelve cents. Wow,
bottom what a scam? Bottom down dude?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Why twelve?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't know. That's a random number sort of lawsuit.
It's now not treated as like a you know, like
an investment. It's more like a hobby. Dude. Everybody they
got those got got.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I mean NFTs too, right, Like that was like
the whole idea of it's just an image and you
own that image. Now there are thirty thousand images of that,
but no, not that one.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
You own that one. I never understood it anyway. Okay,
what I would argue that with is if you own
a song you wrote, Okay, ten thousand people have it,
but you actually own it and you can make the
money off of it, and if you want to resell it,
you could sell it for like somebody sells are publishing.
Sure they're they're selling a song that everybody has, So

(03:17):
why would you spend all the money on it? But
it was it was a picture of say that month
Scott I was talking about like the n f T s.
But you know those apes, the the the pictures, all
the apes that were going.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
From like yeah, yeah, yeah, I had one of like
dollars dir wait was it Dirk Nvitsky?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I bought like four or five? I want to hear
your what you're talking about, But I bought like four
or five and I never got into it. I got
into it for more than you did, as I tend
to with everything and what's funny, what's up? That makes
perfect cannon ball into things? But I bought like a

(03:59):
Dirt Novitski cartoon drawing by like a famous NFT artist,
and I've probably spent like one thousand dollars on it,
and that one you can now get for twelve cents.
I don't know. And I actually have bought a few
of them, and I've stored them on open Sea, which
I believe is like NFT website. I don't know any
think about this. I'm gonna be wrong a bit in

(04:21):
describing this. I got to offer for one of them yesterday,
and I don't know which one. I need to check.
I dont even my password. What a coincidence? I know.
I need to go into my email and look into
a second I got to offer. I don't know which one,
but they're just sitting there. It's like sitting't wear like
a market Yeah, you know how you can? eBay has
like the eBay Vault, and so you can buy something

(04:41):
and they'll just go to the Eba vault and then
whenever you want to sell it, they'll listen and sell
it for you, and then you get the money. You
don't have to sell it right then, and you don't
have to receive it. He goes to what's considered the vault,
and so it's a bit like that where you buy
it through them. Then they just hold it basically, and
other people can look at it and they can buy
it if they want. It's like an open market place,
marketplace the whole time. But I'll look in a few

(05:03):
minutes and that's weird. That's weird that just happened. And
I need to see what my value is on these things,
because I'm sure it's like thirteen cents.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I just I just remember the conversation of like, well,
what is it? It's nothing, it's an image, But.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
There would be like having an original painting of someone
when there's ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
As well, but you have the original one that they made. Yeah,
but that would be the original two that was made.
But it's exactly you're talking like all the other you're
talking like a grandpa. But it's like, ah, this is
the same conversation we had two years by the way,
but it's.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Like starry night. There's ten thousand of those that have
been Yeah, but you want the one that van go,
they don't you? Yeah? Yeah, okay, the one that he did, Yeah,
and the one that he paid. The person that made
the NFT is a specific person, an artist that made that. Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
So it is different than the hot Shots or whatever
we're talking about, Yes, except top Shots except yes, that's
just a version of it, okay, because top Shots was
just dude, but that's a one of one. It was
a one of one of Dak Prescott, like just he
was throwing the ball. But but no one, no one
else has that picture.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's not a picture. Live moments so too like three
second live moments. Correct, you own the live moment. You
own that live moment.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
So like live like of someone you take a picture
on the cell phone and it's got the three seconds.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
And value is just what it's sold for, right, Yeah,
So for example, baseball cards, football cards, really what are
they worth a penny? Right? It's just paper. But there
is an entire culture that has assigned value to certain cards,
and as soon as that collapses, then they're worth nothing
because it's only worth what is deemed valuable by the
people inside that culture. Correct, it's like our money. Yeah,

(06:33):
I do want to get into that whole conversation. I
think we have talked about this. But twelve cents? Yeah,
what does that mean then?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
So what does that mean that now when they were
spending thousands of dollars on these things and now they're
just twelve cents.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
A lot of them, there's nothing, They've lost their money?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah do you even sell or you just for twelve cents?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I know, I'm just not worth people.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Or in your own head are you like, I'm sticking
it to the man. I'm keeping this thing right.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm out of here. You buzzed out the conversation buzz No,
I buzzed out it of being on anyway. It was
twelve cents, that's all. And you guys used to buy them.
I won't to know how much he spent on them.
That say, yeah, yeah, I mean I lost ten dollars
on it and never bought one. The guy who is
playing ball basketball and he can never play basketball again
because uh Johntay Porter talk out, that's what you had. No,

(07:21):
thank god, I was switching it up too. He admitted
Wednesday to the schemed to take himself out of games
for gambling sake, pleading guilty to a federal conspiracy crime
in the scandal that had already got a banned from
the league. So basically, he was like, all right, I'm
gonna probably play this much. If my over under is
four rebounds, I'm gonna act hurt early in the game,
so I can't get that. So then everybody would already

(07:43):
everybody make money that knew about it.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Now, if your teammate, do you think you have any idea?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
It just depends how often he's first of all, he's
probably suss anyway, right, Like, there are a lot of
people in your life who do that kind of crab
that are already doing other crap like that. Maybe not
exactly the same, but sus folks or sus folks, and
so I don't think people were surprised. But when he
does it a couple of times or a few times,

(08:10):
I think they're probably surprised that he would do something
so stupid and lose his entire career. How did he
get caught?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I and remember it was draft Kings went to the
NBA and was like, hey, I think we had an issue.
Here they were, and then the NBA investigated it. I mean,
those guys have great because they're like, who the heck
is betting on John Porter?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's what even know that, That's what it was, big
bets from John Taylord. He was a role player at best.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, played two minutes of games like that.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
He said, I know that what I did was wrong
on lawful and I'm deeply sorry. The former Toronto Raptor
Center said. As he played guilty to conspiracy to commit
wire fraud, he admitted of doing it and said his
reason was to get to get out from under large
gambling debts.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Hey man is chase him and translator they probably hang
out a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Porter is free. On twenty and fifty thousands bond, prosecutors
estimated a sentence at a range from just on our
three and a half years in prison to a little
over four years, which WHI means he'll probably do like
nine months or something if you do if he does
go in. Another thing was the big news was but
before we get to coach here that I saw that
there were a bunch of schools that could possibly go
into the Big twelve, which is now Conference three of

(09:16):
the three bigs, I mean, the ACC is probably the
four for ranking them. It's it's SEC for sure. One
Big ten now two ACC, three, Big twelve four Ye
Pack twelve high. We forgot Pack two packed. Yeah, what's weird?
Two is like Big ten to have ten schools anymore?

(09:37):
They should change those names. And they used to change them, right,
the Big twelve used to be the Big ten. Yeah,
like they But that's even confusing. So Big twelve lost
two and they gained how many? Well, so here's the
story is that what they're the SEC apparently turned down
Florida State and Clemson, which is surprising to me. Those
are two real deal schools, two blue blae a program

(10:03):
especially for football because Florida State it's okay at basketball
sometimes Clemson really doesn't play basketball? Do they they run?
This year? They were okay? Here, they were okay. I
had them, I had them. Yeah, yeah, and my bet
by a team, I guess. I don't think of them
as like traditionally in the tournament, Uh, baseball, are you wrong?

(10:25):
The two money money sports football and then basketball, those
are they're real teams. But apparently according to Greg Swain,
he said that both were turned down by the SEC
and then the Big ten and the Big twelve is
now in pursuit of those two and then four other
teams as well.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Boy, so the Big twelve is looking to make a
move in Big twenty.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, the Big five hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now does it come a competition of like how many
teams do you have right.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Measure? It's a measuring contest.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
That's pretty cool though, that the SEC can be it's
such an elite club where they're like, we don't need you.
But then they still have Vandy in there, and but Vandy.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Deserves to be in there because Vandy was in when
the end on't awesome. I know.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
But if we're making all these changes and you want
to stay an elite, that's true. They're so smart and rich.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And you know they're graduating. So he went on to say,
but from Vegas, the talk is the SEC has now
turned the pair down with new sponsorship. The Big twelve
probably won't pay quite what the other two would, but
they will pay double what the ACC does. Swim is
confident in his prediction and related that the SEC and
Big ten might not add any new programs for a while.
So the other schools. Do you have ther other schools?

(11:37):
Because I saw them yesterday. It's like an oh, bless you,
thank you. NC State, Virginia Tech. I'll talk individually. N
C State basketball powerhouse? Who are they a power? I
think they used to be.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean, he just got drafted, just got drafted. You're right,
they're done.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
They were good this year. I think of the universally, like,
are they okay? Right?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Basketball? Football, you're not really? And really, when you consider
a school coming to a conference, if you're not a
plus basketball, you better be good at football real quick.
I'm sorry, your burp smells so bad. That's it's not
I was like, what did you lingering?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, it's like are you just slowly like letting it
out right?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And the more you talk, man, it's good that that'll
be funny. Okay, go ahead, sorry, inc state their value. Football,
let's write it with a grade. Football C sure, Basketball
B minus.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Fair, Okay, let's go Virginia Tech.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay, football B.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, Basketball, I mean I don't see sometimes they sometimes
they creep in there.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
But yeah, I mean all these teams sometimes.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Ball school, like I think of them, have it Beamer
and Mike Vick and yeah, I mean ten years ago
this was an a team in football. Yeah, Louisville mm hmmm.
I mean they're difficult because they're you give them c
pluses both. Here's the problem. Basketball have been terrible lately, yes,

(13:22):
but have when I think of them, I still think
of them because it hasn't been one hundred years that
they've been mediocre. They've been really good. I would go
basketball be overall last twenty five years, I'm gonna be
is that what you're doing past five years? Fair? Life? Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Then yeah, for sure it be?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
And then football. Listen, they've had some really good years
for sure, but they don't play football. I'm gonna give
them a B minus and that's a high grade.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's more recently than anything.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, sure, Okay, in Miami, this will be another team. Man,
that's tough. Okay, but Miami is what Texas is, except
text has actually got good last year. But it's like,
is Miami back basketball Final four last year? Yeah? Basketball?
B minus? But have been good at times lately. But
I'm still gonna go be minus.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, okay, so are we doing the twenty five Okay,
let's call it that then? Oh yeah, I say BB minus.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, you mean the start of the last of the
twenty five years? Yeah, the football. I would even say
B plus because gosh, just from how legendary the brand is.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Can you guys hear the airplane?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I wonder where they're going?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah? You do that?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
You do that?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You guys.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
There's an app?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Do you know there's an app where you can like
take a picture of the planet, tells you exactly where
it's going, where it came from.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
If you take a picture of the plane, it's way
up there is there something that where it reads the
tail number even if you can't see another picture. I honestly,
I don't know if somebody told me about the app,
I don't have it. Two some looks have a pretty
good train system. This is the most add podcast. Yeah yeah, okay, anyway,
the SEC said no, Big ten said no. But the

(15:05):
Big twelve I think that would make them a lot
stronger because there are more I won't say blue blood
but foundational athletic programs that would be in the conference.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
They need it.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
They do need it because right now they are in
fourth place. But I think if they did this, they
would catch the a SEC. Yeah, because they would take
Florida State, they would take Clemson and then also Miami,
Miami and Virginia Tech. Oh, Georgia Tech is another one.
Oh yeah, gosh, that's tough, dude. Yeah, but I think
these programs are programs that we know have won and

(15:36):
have a bunch of money. Yeah, it could be good.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, they're strong programs.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Now, speaking of strong programs, let's go over here. Let's
say a quick break and we'll go and let's talk
to Arizona head football coach Brent Brant Red Brennant. All right,
hold on, coach, we're here right after media days. I
apologize they're doing right after. But being in the Big Twelve, now, like,
what's the difference in the Big twelve media as opposed

(16:00):
to not being in this conference, not even the school,
but you not being in the conference? Like what's that
media day like compared to the past that you've been in.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
This one had obviously a lot more fanfare to it.
The venue was incredible. We were at the you know,
on the floor or on the on the field at
Allegiance Stadium, and you know, there was I was explaining
it to one of our players because they had watched
all the clips on social media. And when I was
sitting on the stage there there's literally like fifty yards

(16:28):
of media, you know, not paying attention while I was
up there, but like some guys, some guys ask questions.
So yeah, it was just it was a lot of fun.
This is extremely well done, kind of the first time
for all of us to be together as a conference,
and so, you know, the Big Twelve definitely put their
best foot forward.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
A lot of new you're new here, the school is
new in the conference. It feels a bit like it
could be a culture change just for everyone because again
you're playing you never played before. Or that the school
has really never played before, there's no history. So do
you have to go and kind of watch tape of
every school, Have your scouting department watch tape of every

(17:11):
school like baseline before the season starts.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
You always do that, And actually, I got this question yesterday,
so I'm ready. But the other part that happens is
by the time you play your conference opponents, you've already
played two, three, four or five games, and so by
then you're really basing everything off of what's happening in
the twenty twenty four season, especially in the era of
transfer portal, rosters are changing over so many different players

(17:37):
as part of rosters. We definitely went through the spring
and the early summer and did like preliminary scouting reports
of our opponents, but the majority of those kind of
those schematic decisions will be made based on the guys
that are playing this year.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It feels like when you come in now, because of
the portal and the option for kids to jump out,
that you have to move into the house and welcome
everybody really quickly to get them to stay quicker than
ever before because they can do. You feel that like
as soon as you're hired, you have to get here
and start cultivating relationships immediately.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
That's exactly what we did actually right here in this office.
My first day I met the team, which was a Tuesday,
met him at four o'clock. And after that I had
a conversation with Noah Flafida and said, hey, why don't
you get some of the guys together tomorrow that you
think I need to talk to and let's sit down
and let's just talk. And so the next day at
two o'clock after my press conference, I came in here

(18:32):
and there was twenty five kids and we sat here
and I sat up there and they just kind of
filled the room and they just fired questions at me.
I said, ask whatever you want. And because it was
that like, I needed to give them a chance to
get to know me. Obviously they know each other, but
I need to give them a chance to get to
know me. Is great. And when we were done talk
about two hours. And when we were done, I said,
have this feel and they're like, this is cool? You

(18:53):
know all right? I said, okay, you guys want to
do it again tomorrow and they said yeah. So the
next day, you know, plus remind us a few players
the same group came back and we went through the
same thing with a bunch of different questions, and it
was that it was absolutely trying to get to know
each other as fast as we could.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I like, Day one maybe a lot of questions about
the scheme, if they want to stay, if it's going
to make sense, how many cures do you plan on
giving the running? Day two is like what color are
the cleats? I mean, is that kind of how it went?
Like Day two? They wanted to like the cool things.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
No, I would say there was some of that in
day one too. The cleat question was the first day,
you know, and I told them, yeah, I don't care
as long as they're Nike, you know. I said, if
I care about that, we got much bigger problems, you know,
on game day. So, you know, every every head coach
is different. Every head coach has their own style, their
own philosophy, the stuff they believe in. And I was

(19:42):
just trying to give them an idea of what was
going to be important to me and what I was
going to want to make sure they understood where I
was coming from on certain things, and I wanted to
hear what they thought, you know, because I think sometimes
players don't think they have any say in their program.
That's not that's not my style. Like I want them
to have all to say. You know, I know the
buck stops with me, and I get that, but I
want them to understand that they have input here and

(20:05):
we're going to make decisions together that directly impact our
football team.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
You mentioned Noah specifically, obviously crazy baller. As soon as
you get the job, do you call him even quicker
than getting here to make sure that he's committed to staying? Like,
was there a back channel with him? Do you knew
he wanted to stay? What was that process?

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Like?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
No, it really wasn't like that. It all happened pretty fast,
and so I was just trying to get down here
and get a chance to get to meet everybody. So
on the first day I met everybody briefly. It was
pretty quick. And then after the team meeting and the
guys broke up and left, I had to go over
to HR, and Noah jumped on the back of the

(20:46):
golf cart. I was in with my wife and they
whisked me into HR and we talked for a minute
and she comes in interrupt She's like, Hey, I think
you need to sit out and know Fafida, I'm like,
way to go, babe, you know, like she was on
you know, she was on it, and he and I
had a great conversation, and that's what. That was the
start of the plan to try and get everybody to
get together the next two days. He still didn't know.

(21:08):
I don't think he wasn't sure. You know, he was
interviewing me as much as I was trying to get
to know him.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Coach, I want to talk about the heat a little bit.
It's serious over here. How does it play a role
in how you do practices or how you just work
in it?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, it's funny, you know, I think the heat, the heat,
the cold, it doesn't matter. Like those things are one
of one deal that allows us, like players, coaches, people
to make excuses to not play well or practice hard.
So I'm always like, yeah, it doesn't matter, Like if
you get drafted in Green Bay, are you not going
to play? Of course you're going to play right. So

(21:43):
for the heat here, like, I actually love it. I'll
take the heat over the cold or the heat over
the rain any day. So far, it's been good, but
we were We've always been a morning practice team, so
we'll practice in the morning and we'll be off the
field by twelve twelve thirty. Every day in.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Colorado, if you run, are better when you're not in
Colorado because the elevation. If you work out here in
the heat, do you purposefully spend a little bit of
time outside to get that it's kind of like bonus
hard workout. So when you go somewhere that's a little temperate,
like your cardio, like you're so much ready, more ready physically,
or do you stay inside as much as possible.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I think we'll be outside for sure. I think there
is a toughness, a mentality component to the heat or
the cold or whatever extreme situation you have at your place.
But we're going to do both. And really a lot
of those decisions come down to a staff conversation or
a conversation with our strength and conditioning coaches in our
training room, you know, like hey, if it's too hot

(22:41):
and it's not safe, then we then we go indoors.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was a very and you can probably look at
me until above mediocre slightly above mediocre high school football
player on a small level. He didn't agree, but I
mean to brack, but we didn't get water that was right.
That was how it was twenty years ago, thirty years ago,
that was. But water was a treat and we couldn't
have water. I remember when Coach built this. He had

(23:05):
a PBC pipe and he put a water hose into
it and put a little hole, little spot. I was like,
they invented the car. We were like, wow, I guess
everybody gets water now how they want to?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Absolutely we are.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
We were.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I would say we are aggressive with our hydration because yeah,
well yeah, I mean obviously it's a health and safety
concern for starters baseline, but it's also has a tremendous
impact on performance, uh, mentally, physically, all those things.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
So we're you remember that one when like water, Yeah,
like okay, yeah, yeah, that's the way it was.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, that was the way it was.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I didn't get water unless you earned ye.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
And the other thing is we're sitting here talking. I
appreciate you guys giving me the short seat. So I
looked so I looked just like so much shorter than
you guys. But that was strategic.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Question about a picture in the room, I got a
couple one. They've already retired your jersey apparently number one
right over there. Yeah, no, I haven't even coach the
game yet, So how did you talking into retiring your jersey?

Speaker 4 (24:02):
That was the jersey they handed me the day I
was hired.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Hiring jersey.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
There's nothing special about that, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
And then number two there's a picture and it shows
a text message with like I don't remember the number.
It's like one thousand, six and twenty four unopened text messages.
That must mean something big happened. And you have all
these messages and so you screenshot what what is that picture?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
So it's a it's a something I use with our team.
And that's that's within like thirty six hours after getting
this job, I had that many text messages. And my
point of the team is like when something good happens
for you, like everybody reaches out, and when something bad happens,
you know nobody. You don't hear from anybody and their
lives as football players. It's like that, you know, make

(24:45):
a good play social media, you know five thousand hits,
you make a bad play five thousand really bad stuff too,
And so you know it's a message for them, like
just don't give your power away to you know, the
social media world. Your telephone that part of it, because
it's so fleeting, and really all the matters are the
people that are in this building and the people that
you love and respect.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I can't believe them have your phone number.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Not anymore, Okay, not anymore.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's changed. I've had a couple of really like lucky
cool moments, for at one point that I want a
reality show. I'm not a reality person, but I want
dancing with the stars. And I never danced before in
my life, and so it was like that, right, had
all the and then I got to the point where
I just copied and pasted thanks man, thanks man. But
that's why I saying amand to women, And then they
realized it was all did you copy and paste answers

(25:31):
back to people or did you just not reply to
all of them?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I'd say six hundred of those have been unread.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Still not Still you don't have You're not a dot guy.
There's no way on your phone.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
You have read everywhere. Yeah, yeah, everywhere we gotta go.
There's hope for me. But but if I'm taking time
out of my day to respond to those people that
much like the people that I need to respond to,
I'm already responding to they already know, I've already believe them. Yeah,
that takes time to.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
A couple of questions about the new rules this year,
the communication inside the helmet. I think that's awesome. They've
been doing it on obviously in the NFL levels all
around except for where you guys are, how do you
feel and have you already started to work on that
at all?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, we worked on that sum in spring, and I
think it's going to be really helpful. I think it'll
be interesting. It'll avoid some of the sign stealing, you know,
nonsense and conversations that happen every year in college football.
And I think it'll be also good for the players
because as they aspire to play on the next level,
that's going to be a component of their you know,
of them playing also, so I think it's good for everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Is more of a conversation nonsense or is it stopping
the actual stein sign stealing because we heard a lot
about it last year especially, Was it a bigger topic
than it actually is or has it been existing for
a long time and it should have been a topic already.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
I would say it's been going on forever, you know.
I think everyone's you know in every sport, you know,
not just specific Like.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
If you can legally steal a signed that's not even stealing.
It's taking someone left it out on the side of
the curb. It's like a chair and you pick it
up on a Thursday. Legally, if you do that, that's fair, right,
but if not, if you're using other ways, that is unfair.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I would agree with that. Yeah, I would agree with that.
But just the natural to like reading signs or picking
signs like that's been happening forever.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Anyway, Are you gonna do signs at all, like backup signs?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Do you use any pictures of things?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
We will not.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
You could use my head where that was going, like,
I would love to look on the siline, coach. I've
only ever given one school parmation to do this. It's
Arkansas around from it, and I was like, in basketball
they can hold it a big head of me on
the court when they do this. But I'd let you
use my head, Coach, I use big glass. If yeah,
you're in it'd be like dorky dive and that's what
it means, is like straight doork dive right up the middle, Coach.

(27:50):
It'd be perfect rule change. Just talk about another one.
We're talking about the communication. Are they doing the iPads?
Do you get like eighteen is it eighteen iPads? Sixteen iPads?
Whatever it is? Well, somebody would they be walking around
going right one, two, three only I think it's sixteen
or eighteen iPads or maybe not iPads. It could be tablets, tablets, yeah, generic,
will somebody be checking to make sure somebody doesn't have

(28:11):
nineteen tablets?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
I think it would be more honor code until someone said, hey,
they're using too many tablets and.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
The honor code is not good, cause we know that's
not good. There's gotta be somebody in charge of the
tablets a little.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
But like you're responsible for your own sideline, you know,
so at the end of the day, like I'm in charge,
so like I'm not doing that for an extra tablet.
That's insane. It would be wasted. Like that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
And that's just to watch quick versions of the game,
right gay exactly exactly, you're watching the previous series.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Like I think in terms of like learning and making
adjustments and understanding what's happening in real time, I think
we'll be incredibly valuable.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I think that's also a great rule. And this is
a couple of rules that I would like to see
happy boy here. No, I think because I love how
the rule changes have finally been implemented. I love the
communication and the helmet. Think about this one, coach. Everything's
the same, but when you score a touchdown, you get
a chance to kick the extra point if you scored
the touchdown, but that's worth two So let's say the

(29:07):
player that scored, the player that scored the touchdown, interesting,
now gets to kick the extra point if he wants,
and if he makes it, it's worth two points. Thoughts
like a good coach it. I think that's awesome because
how often is that really going to happen? Not not
very often. Like it's like the old school two point conversion.
They didn't do it a whole lot, but when they did,
that was not crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
But imagine it would be fun. I think you would have.
I think some of us would be like, all right,
if we're going to go for two, let's just call
it two point.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Play, that's probably good point to go and think about that.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I didn't think about that.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Again, I didn't know, man, I didn't think about Oh no, okay, okay,
fair enough you got another one. I do have another one.
This one's like legitimate, though, I feel like they should
at some point put some sort of digital tracking measurement
system in the balls, meaning and the lines. Yeah, why
are we waiting? It's humans first, then cameras. But sometimes
there are still angles that don't have clearly because there

(30:01):
are people on both sides. It's a goal line, goal
and play and let's check it, but they're alignment on
both sides where the camera is. What are your thoughts
on that? I agree, Kay, it's easy, all right, I'm
one for two right now.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Okay, So are you also a proponent of the automatic
strike zone?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Absolutely? Yeah. I think if you want to call it
into play. Let's say there's a challenge. I'm great. I
love challenges up to a limit, and if you're right,
you get to keep going. Like I think that's how
are you with the challenges?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Great? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Everybody says that, Yeah it's great.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
No, no, no, I think like you have to be
strategic with them, you know, And I think like sometimes
because it's because the fans are always like challenge and
you're like thinking of like the game, like the whole
game or this half, you know, situation and you're like,
there's there's often times where you're like, it's not worth it,
or this game is tight, I'm going to need that
time out, And so you're talking on the headset. Are

(30:53):
you sure?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Are you sure?

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Are you sure? Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
You're a sure guy? You them accountable?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
No. No, But there's always like because sometimes guys see it,
or they have access to a replay that you don't
have on the field.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
But if he says yes coach, or.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, yeah right, I'll go for it. And sometimes I
cost you a game.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
He doesn't get water. See, I've got them no water
for him the next outside practice. Yes, we're figuring this out.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
We're not into capital punishment yet.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
One more rule change that I think we'll be good for.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
No, no, this is one.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I am not a big fan of players faking injured
and then getting back in after one playout. I don't
know there are many coaches that would admit their fans
of it unless they're doing it. But I would also
train my players to do it. Let me be honest,
I would. I would train if there's a wide open offense,
I'll be like, grab your hammy, baby and get back
out there. And one to play, and then I would
be like, we don't like that. However, I think if

(31:44):
that happens, if they have to stop the game for
any reason injured, they can't come in until the next series.
Thoughts on that, I don't.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Think that's necessarily bad. But I also know in football
there are moments where a guy gets you know, turns
an ankle or something, and then the time allows him
to like kind of catch his breath and he realized
he's not as hurt, you know, So I could see
it both ways.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Hey, you know what that means? He likes it?

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, no, no, I do. I actually think, like,
for the most part, I do think football coaches have integrity.
I don't think a lot of coaches coach that. I'm
sure some do, but I do not believe the majority
of them do.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
But if it's not against the rules, I would argue,
it's not even an integrity thing. It's a strategy thing.
If we make it against the rules, then it's then
an integrity thing. All my players we.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Do, no, but fanning injury is against the rules. If
you can like prove it, that's a problem. It's so
hard to that's right.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's why someone who says I died and came back
to life. We can't say they didn't. We don't believe them,
but we can't say they didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Okay, coach, when I talk about your career a little bit,
you know you were the head coach over at San
Jose State and U I believe it was not it
was twenty nineteen, you guys.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Be the first SEC team as a school. Do you
remember that game? Of course I did, Jack like it
was the eighties? Coach, Do you remember the game five
years ago? But I can.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I can tell he doesn't remember it.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Who did you guys beat?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
We beat the University of Arkansas?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
No, I know who it was. That was a terrible game.
Was a terrible game. I didn't want to bring it up. Yeah,
where's that ball? Look at that? We went to Western
Kentucky in the same bull crap where it was like
on the wall. We had to stop and look at it. Anyway,
go ahead, Yeah, well it's so cool about that game, Coach.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
That game it was because the previous we had been
so we were like in this massive rebuilding and we've
been struggling so far. The year before we were one
and eleven, and so I think that was Game three
and we were one and one going into it, and.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
He can't stand the coach toiled to the birth of
Arizona right now, coach is to listening to a coach
to speak. I love it's very eloquent.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
But yeah, so we went, you know, going on the road.
You know, just the atmosphere playing in a place like that, Yeah,
the environment.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Who's your quarterback?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Our quarterback was Josh Love, who ended up being the
Mountain West Offensive Player of the year, so he was
a good player. But the interesting thing is it's quarterback
from Arkansas was Nick Starkle, who after that season transferred
and played for US and we won a conference championship.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
That whole game he was like, I'm I thought was awesome. Anyway,
we're moving on. Good question, Thank you coach. When you
come in and as a new guy, does everybody want
to know, like what offense are you running with us?
And is that going to develop into more of what
you have always done?

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I would say that's not what we did this here.
Lots of coaches are like that. I'm not necessarily like that.
I am always like, how do we get the ball
in our best player's hands and let them make a play,
whether that's a quarterback or running back or white out
or tight end. Like I'm always about adjusting the scheme
to the personnel. And so you know, there's been times
where we San Jose, we ran the ball excellent. There's

(34:57):
times where we threw it as good as anybody. And
so it just depends on just what we have that means,
and that changes year to year, and it really changes,
you know, with the transfer portal. But when we came
in here, what we did is we tried to adopt
a lot of the things that they did here coach
fishing them and the players did here before offensively and schematically,

(35:19):
and then and then married it to what we did.
So if it was similar, then we just called it
what they called it here last year. So we tried
to keep some of the languages saying for the players,
so we kind of put the onus on the coaches
to learn more than the players. And then defensively, because
of keeping in coach Keina, we're able to keep that
the defensive the same defense in you know, in place.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
So have you fallen? I've been saying your left coach,
I think you fell He's got a wound, right, next
to what's going on?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
So yeah, no, it was fourth of July. I was
in San Diego, and uh I kind of got washed
up on the rock surfing and uh so I got
shredded pretty good. But yeah, it was not as glamorous
as it sounds when I say it. It was more
like old man and but uh but but the funny
part is that it happened all my way out because

(36:14):
it's like high tide and then but I didn't know
all this happened. So I went out and body served
for an hour and I and then I got out
and I was bleeding everywhere. So I was just shark
bait all over the water. I was just chumming the water.
I had no idea when I got out of the
water and everyone's like, oh my god, what happened to you?
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I've been in the water

(36:35):
for a long time. It is bleeding everywhere.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Final five questions, questions. They are gonna be quicker, coach.
So one of the cool things about traveling around the
country talking to really smart coaches, huge programs, it's like,
we also get to me a lot of our childhood.
He rose like, next week we get to go hang
out with Steve Young. We're going to Steve Young's house.
Like Steve Young to me was I'm left handed. I'm

(37:00):
mentioned I played football back in the day. I'm left handed.
Young was left handed. It's like him and Boomera size
and on my two left handed quarterbacks. For you, who
was that when you were younger that you looked at
as an athlete? That was your favorite athlete.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
When I was young Because I'm a nine Er fan,
so I grew up in the Bay Area, so it
was Joe Montana and Jerry Rice, and then I ended
up being a receiver, and so like Jerry Rice is
that guy for me?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
See, hey, Steve Young will tell him, No, I didn't
even mention you. No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
But Steve threw a million touchdown passes. Is Jerry Rice
like they were incredible to you?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Super Bowls for you?

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, no question.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah. But when Joe got hurt and Steve came in,
it was a tough time.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
It's amazing though, because like how Steve handled that and
then continued to have a Hall of Fame career, Like
that doesn't happen only the Packers, Like that's just amazing,
Like really far Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's about it.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
So rare.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
What about when you got older, was there a player
that you emulated or thought, okay, he played a little
like I play. Was it Jerry Rice?

Speaker 4 (37:56):
No, because Jerry Rice was good and I was not.
So yeah, But like you know, whatever position you play,
you're always looking at the guys that are in the
NFL that you think are are you know big time
that mcspecial ed McCaffrey. I watched him play in college
because he was at Stanford, right, And so he was
one of those guys because he was we used to
go watch him on Saturdays. That's a good poll that

(38:16):
you but yeah, and he and he was incredible and
then had a great career in the NFL of the
Giants and the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Right, I want to ask you another pick or four? Left?
Four left? Okay?

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Four left?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Another picture over there? I saw you and John Madden.
What's what's behind that picture?

Speaker 4 (38:29):
So that was cool. So Coach Madden and Steve MERRIOTCI
have a charity botchi ball tournament in the Bay Area
every year and then raise money for the Special Olympics.
And it's an awesome event. And so we would go
every year San Jose State Athletics and support it, and
so I got to meet coach Madden and I put
it up there because I always ask my players, do

(38:50):
you know who that is? Like all the pictures up
there for just like talking points, because the kids players
come in, they're like, what's that? What's that you know?
And and I'm like, do you know who that is?
And they're like no, And I'm like, you've probably played
that game more than any video game in your arsenal
and they look at me like that's Madden. Yeah, So yeah,
it was.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
You have favorite book a couple, The Magic of Thinking
Big and The Slide Edge.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You read those before I got her today, actually both
at the same time. Yeah. Yeah, Why though, was like,
what about that have you taken and translated into what
you're doing now?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Kind of the premise of the Slide Edge is it
like what you do every single day compounds over time.
And then the Magic of Thinking Big is the idea
that like most of us don't think big enough, we
don't dream big enough. We just like kind of get
in our way and we're just like, well this is
good enough, when actually most of us are capable of
much more.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Two questions left. Yeah, I know it's getting down to
the nitty gritty hand. We got a culture question in
a music question, which want you like next? Coach music,
give me your mount rushmore a favorite music you're four
for your whole life that you would put as if
you can on less four artists.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Oh my gosh, that is rough, tough.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I know what we do with hard hitting.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
All right, Okay, so I'm a you know, my formative
years were the nineties, I would say, uh, and so
I'm a nineties hip hop guy, So that would be
some version of kind of n W A Tupac Snoop,

(40:25):
I know, picking up one that said a tough one,
it would probably be probably be Snoop and during that
time or you know, and that's stuck with me. I
got four more, three more, three more. Wow, this is
a tough one, Bob Marley, Yes, okay, and trying to think, God,

(40:48):
this is a tough question. You have to edit the
hell out of it. You get this media days, coach,
this is more fun. Exactly there there, I answered the
same question five hundred times. Let's see who's on my
listening to the most. I would say, like beach Boys'
Greatest hits and cause I kind of was like a

(41:09):
kid with my parents growing up listening to that. And
then I would also throw in God Pearl Jam, I
love this some kind of.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I mean, Bob Marley, Pearl Jam, Beach Boys.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
This is my dude.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
So yeah, snoop, snoop, this is my guy. Final question,
what's been great about the culture here at Arizona? That
is new to you? Right, every school has its own culture.
That one you have to learn. You have to make
sure you do it right publicly. What have you had
to learn quickly? But also you're like, oh, this is
really cool and different to University of Arizona.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
I think the coach, Fishing and staff recruited a bunch
of really quality players and quality young men and they
are already incredibly connected. And I walked into a really
special situation in terms of like the team culture as
it fits. It's like big picture here in Tucson, Arizona.
This for the first time I'm in a place where

(42:07):
there's I've never felt a city support of university like
this one. Because the city is big, it doesn't feel
that way, but there's a million people that live in
kind of the greater Tucson area, and like how much
the city of Tucson cares about the University of Arizona,
how much it cares about all our sports programs in
the u of A is really special. It's a lot

(42:27):
of fun.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Coach. We really appreciate the time you. We like you
more now because your musical taste more than any And
in conclusion, if you want to use my head for
one time for one play, let me know. I okay it, yeah,
but the rights to it for one game, one play,
and I think that would be hilarious. I like it,
all right.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Let make sure it's a good one.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
To dorky dive, dorky dive. All right, thanks coach, thank you?
All right? Where was Zach from dorm Dudes? We were
just talking about my football a second ago. And by
the way, if you're not familiar with dorm dudes, if
you go to TikTok and you do dorm dudes breaks,
they break sports memorabili Yeah, and by break, it's like

(43:10):
you buy a section. If that section hits, you get it.
We can tell you about all that later. But we're
talking about Miami, and so you guys broke a Miami
helmet like a Legends helmet?

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, what was on it?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So?

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Ray Lewis and Ed Reid were on there, which was
super cool for me because obviously two great defensive players
on there together.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
You're a lot younger than us, so to us, we
remember that being young. But you didn't remember that at all?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Right, No, no, just remember them in the NFL, not
not on it.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Quite late in the NFL too, Yeah, exactly late in
their career. Yeah, that sucks for us. We're getting old,
I know, I know. So okay, so who else you get?
Ed Reid, ray Lewis? Who else was on it? If
you can remember?

Speaker 5 (43:50):
I know there was a bunch of people on it.
And we've pulled so many Miami helmets it's hard for
me to say.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
The Miami players. I think of the top of my head.
I think of Shocky, Jeremy Shockey went to Miami. Jason Taylor,
Oh yeah, I went to Miami. Okay, here comes Kevin.
Should you look it up?

Speaker 5 (44:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
No, no, I think he's just like, I'm out of
this one. I mean, I don't have a guess awsome. Yeah,
Greg Olsen, Ed Reed, Vince Wilfork, Will Fork, Oh god,
dang Clinton Portish Sean Taylor wells McGee. You guys already
said I think j mcgay is neat Jonathan Willma Greg Yeah,

(44:29):
that's why I said most of those two oh yeah,
except like.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
But he but the way he rolled it out, it's
pretty smart. N looks real smart man.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
He said. Most people, I said, he knew it. What
are you good? Uh? Okay, Yeah. So Miami used to
be legendary. Before you knew it, it was legendary. But
their fans are annoying because they still think they're legendary.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Well yeah, I mean that's a lot of fan bases
though they do that. It's like the Cowboys, like it's
been it's been a bit, and we still think we're legendary.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
I feel like the college teams, it's more they're more
we're partial of their team, you know, like Browns fans
in the NFL. We used to be good and now
everybody's like, yeah, we're not.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
When was that? That never happens in cog Yea. When
were they ever going to except for the one year
Mayfield won a playoff games? Well, nowhere in my life,
but a lot Jim brown Man, but from the original
team that's now the Ravens back back in back, Bernie Kozar.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Back when it was championships not Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I barely remember Bernie Cozar playing back in the day. Yeah,
I just had cards. No chance. You remember Bernie Kzar.
You know who he is, right, Yeah, taw skinny dude,
kind of mullet and yeah. I think he was like
on the broadcast team for the Browns. Who's your favorite
team NFL Browns? Who's your favorite college team?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Ohio State?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
For sure? Are you a big college fan or would
you be in because I think that part of the country,
unless you're college football in the Southeast, is worshiped. It's
as close as I would compare to like international soccer,
except it's not like our whole country we're rooting for,
or we don't go stab people, or we have laws
to keep people from trampling each other. If trash truck

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is that the same truck?

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, oh boy, get ready. If soccer is their fanatics internationally,
especially like World Cup National if that's in a college
football would be like a B minus. It would be
the most passionate thing with sports that I think we have,
Like Americans stored college football.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
I didn't realize that until we moved to Tennessee when
we were kind of in the heart of the SEC.
How intense it is and how much it is a
part of people's lives. I guess I grew up with
it because it's all we had in Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, good point where you guys actually have pro TEMs.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Lots of pro teams actually, yeah, lots of pro teams,
lots of actual lives to live. And so Ohio States
just like a clever of what's going on? Do you
hate hate Michigan?

Speaker 5 (46:41):
Yes, yeah, I definitely. I think that's one of the
biggest rivalries ever. So yeah, I can't stand Michigan. But
if I had to go college or NFL, I would
definitely pick the NFL, just because the fact of I
like the lower scoring games.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
And that part of the country is very much NFL
E and Northeast very much NFL.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Well in Ohio has was it two NFL teams? Yeah,
it's pretty big sneeze. That starts smelling like a trash truck.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
We're gonna know, let's do favorite favorite college player of
all time? Oh gosh, because that you were not a
big college guy. No, I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I wasn't, But do you have one. I'll say just
Ricky Williams because I got to see him run in
person as an adult. Yes, yeah, when I was working
for news and I was running the camera on the field,
never really what. They sent me to go do Texas games,
and they sent me because one of the guy was
sick who usually does it. So I was there on
the end zone and it was like, god, dude, it

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was awesome. It was like he was there on the
three yard line and he just plowed through the line
and I can hear him grunt. I hurt everyone, grunt,
and he just pushed everyone like they weren't even there.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
And I was like, that's so so freaking cool, Kevin,
who's you favorite college player of all time?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Got double mics here?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Favorite all time is probably and I hate USC, but
it's got to be Reggie Bush.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
So again, you're not a You like college football, but
you weren't a diehard college football fan.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Not of a certain team though, But you would need
to be of a sin because I grew up around them.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
So but again, you would need to be of a
certain team to be an extremely religion based college football
fan because that's what the religion is. Yeah, so you
can love. I love. I love the NFL. I don't
have a team, so I can't be like Eddie and
you do have a team. It's the Cowboys, dude, Just

(48:29):
embrace it. I did bet fifteen hundred dollars the Cowboys,
which will put me at twenty five thousand dollars. Embrace it, dude,
that's your team. I was really like teetering, and Eddie's like,
you can do it. Do the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
If my dad texts me, he's like, Bobby, really do that?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yep, I know it's so stupid.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Favorite college player ever Cardil Jones, for sure. He was wildome. Yeah,
he was awesome.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
And my reasoning for that is, you know how the
coaches always talk about like next man up, and that
started out as a third string quarterback.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
And won a national championship.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
So like, come on, how can you.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Not like that? Read? I know you don't like anything
like hey read wakem you mildly like a lot of stuff,
but like you don't like love, love, But who would
you say your favorite is probably Darren McFadden.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, legend, because like Cowboy, we were doing all.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
The sports camps at that time and had his fat
head and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
So I'd probably say, but don't be what faad you
stick on them? Got it? Well, that's rude. Mine's probably
because they can't do I'm a debating between two. I
don't want to say them both because it's not fair
because then I get to claim them both. Right.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Probably probably Clint, like you said, Quinn groovy.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Quinn definitely was like when I was tiny young, but
I wasn't old enough to really I was allowed to
go see him play Clint Turner when I it was
like when I was seventeen eighteen nineteen, we were like
one game away from the National Championship. He had the
big fumble the Cossus against Tennessee. We lost the game,
didn't get to go play in the National Championship. But

(50:01):
for me it was Clint Sturner. But yeah, Quinn Groby
as a young kid was awesome. Which what year did
you storm the field? That would probably be ninety six
or so. Matt Jones chunked the ball in the corner,
jumped on the filmos, brought my leg, dragged my leg
across the field. Though there were a couple of times
that I stormed but that was the one where I
shouldn't have the other one. They just kind of let

(50:23):
everybody we beat Alabama once. I even got on the
jumbo tron before because I was in the end zone.
They put the camera on just the random crowd's face
and I was like, I was not known at all.
I just got lucky they put me on there, and
I probably ran on the for like five seconds before
the game was over because on the other side of
the field and I was in the other end zone,
So what's gonna happen? Yeah, So I ran on. I

(50:43):
just want to get a lead, and I did. I
got the lead. That was one of the first people
to play. It's awesome. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool
over at Dorm Dudes. I wanted JJ Watt jersey and
I sold it the other day, which we'll have a
video of for like all in about close to two
thousand dollars. That's awesome that I hit from you guys.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
And how much money did you put in to get
into Dorm Dudes to that one? Yeah, what was the
entry on that eighty bucks or something? That's awesome for
like the team, for like the I probably bought a division.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I don't know, but I probably bought like the AFC
South or something, right, yeah, probably in a bag. They're
doing this thing now where they give away ten thousand
dollar tickets inside the bags. Oh that's cool. One hit yesterday.
Really yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
One of the ten thousand dollars tickets hit yesterday was
one in every five hundred jerseys. So some people are
going to be very happy when they hit that.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Especially for like thirty bucks. That ticket you can use
just you get the money. No, no, it's your Oh
it's cash money. Yeah, dude, that's awesome. I've seen two
people hit it on dorm. Dudes. That's so freaking cool.
Like one in five hundred bags has a it comes
out in a gold bag. My TJ, my JJ. What
was in a gold bag? Yeah? Something I haven't seen
gold bags. I'm like, I just want two thousand dollars

(51:53):
because a ticket fell out, but it was like the
authentication ticket, and because it was like a game issue jersey,
like other tickets were falling out, like legitimately game issued.
It had us Walter Walter Payton Man of the Year
thing on this, and I was like, oh my god,
I want two thousand dollars and I didn't. Basically I
won two thousand because I went in and sold it.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
And and they're doing college helmets too now right now. Yeah,
that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
That so freaking cool. I did win the Joe Montana
Notre Dame. I don't have that yet though, dude, maybe
at the house now. It's so beautiful, but that one.
And I did win the all the watte Brothers on
the Wisconsin helmet. I don't have it yet. I just
want it though, but I want to authentic Tim Tebow
Florida Gator helmet. Dang authentic with Advisor too. The visor

(52:35):
apparently I haven't seen that. I didn't even see me
win it. Sometimes I'll get on and be like and
then I have to go, so I have to get off,
and then I'll go back and look because they put
on their Instagram, which is dorm Dude's breaks like all
the winners, and I'll go look and be like, come on,
come on, come on. And they had it up on
it one which one was the one where Kuran ripped
the shirt off. That was a ticket. Yeah, yeah, that
ten thousand dollars one. So yeah, you guys are killing
them inn Well, I appreciate it. Have you get to

(52:59):
who's the best sports person you get to meet?

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Well, when I was younger, I always used to go
to a lot of games, and I would get there
at like nine in the morning and stand in line
to be the first one in the stadium to try
and meet the players. I would say the best person
I've ever met is probably Russell Wilson. Super cool dude,
that's super willing to talk. And this is when he
was like really really good with the Seahawks. So even
though they become Cleveland, they were playing the Browns.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Oh and he was so he was an NFL player
and he's still super nice. Yeah, wait, were you an adult?

Speaker 5 (53:28):
I was probably fifteen.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
He always seemed like he was nice, like even not
not authentic. I don't think I never really got the
authentic vibe, but he seemed like he was nice.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Like he was cheesy, butte ever felt like he was
in authentic because I didn't know him well.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
To me, when someone's really cheesy, they're just playing it up.
That's just my theory. But I've never seen Russell Wilson
like just.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Mean to someone. Well, I say, many people just mean
to someone.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Well, so I assume like when he met him he
was nice to Zach. I don't know, but is it
mean to just what I'm not just go to the
locker room. I don't think so, No, to just ignore. Yeah,
they just keep walking.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
No son Like Zach went up and Russell was by
himself and he's like sign this and he's like, no,
you look idiot. Well, dude.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
One time I was I was at a Rangers game
and Josh Hamilton he was walking the dugout and there
were a bunch of people like right above the dugout
asking for a ball.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Josh, Josh, Goosh, will you sign the ball?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Throwing in balls and he stopped signed one ball and
then he said throw me another one, and this man
threw him the ball.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
He got it. He's like, not you threw it back
to the man, a doult Man, and he said the kid,
that's cool, the kid give me the ball. And the
man was just like, oh, well, okay. I was our guy,
Jeff Perlman who came on and told all the stories
I watch him on TikTok and he was talking about
how Josh Hamilton was one of his favorite people to cover.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
It seems like a wild dude. Well, yeah, no, he
was because he was addicted to drugs big time. Yeah.
I mean that makes you wild. Yeah, drugs make you
do crazy things. Yeah, he was all covered in tatta.
Then he came back and good run. Yeah yeah, that's
when I saw him. When he came back, that's cool,
and he talked to you or just signed something.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
He talked a little bit, and it wasn't a whole lot.
It was just like, hey, thanks for coming to supporting
all the way in Cleveland. But you didn't know I
was from Ohio, so it wasn't like a four drive
or anything.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
But he didn't think you were like a make a
Wish kid or any No, So you don't think it's rude,
Like when no, they don't even reck, they don't even acknowledge. No,
I think it's rude if they acknowledge and then ignore.
I think it's better to just walk, especially if you
have somewhere to be. And I say this from from
a very very one percent limited version of this. If

(55:26):
I'm like doing three or four events back to back,
I'm doing interviews and someone's like, I will always stop
if I can't take every single picture all the time.
But if there's like a weird adult guy who I
know is like because they will bring pamphlets with pictures
of me, have like six pictures of me. Yeah, and
I'll be like I used to even be kind of
borderline late to things to stop and sign stuff. But
then I'd be like, who, don't make it to like, no,

(55:48):
just make a generic and then we do this one.
They flip the page and'd be like, oh, they're signing,
they're selling this crew. And so when that kind of
situation happens, I'll just act like I can't hear them
because I feel like it's rude of like, hey, hey,
you're like, I see you, buddy, I'm not coming over there. Though.
It's always the douche's that I because I'll never turn
out a picture. Yeah. The one time was I was

(56:08):
peeing at a journal though, and a got was like, oh,
that's too much? Can I? And I was like, hey, man,
I'm gonna finish ping. I'll meet you right outside. That's
a weird one. Can I take a picture while we're
what are you waving at?

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (56:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I was doing the selfie the selfie oh got it
look like read was like waving anything too. So check
out dorm dudes breaks. They have a lot of great
stuff breaking helmets and jerseys and cards. Yeah, a little
bit of cards memorabilia for now. All right, I think
that's it. Thanks to Coach for hanging out with us.
Our producer has been reading Kevin on this podcast.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Job.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Thanks guys, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
We're going to Dallas from here and hopefully we get
some cool interviews. We're kind of going in blind.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
We're gonna have some cowboys there. They got to be there, right, like,
that's got to be there. No, why would they go
to the celebrity All Star Game because celebrities in there
in Dallas. They live right, they live right down the road.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
No, no, it's not the All Star Game. It's the
celebrity Softball Game.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Yeah yeah, but but but if you bones there was
a softball game right by your house and you knew
that some Celebriti are gonna be there, you would just
wal if I.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Was close friends with some of them. Oh like treel
Owen should be there. Okay, well maybe they know to
you don't, but I'm saying he was a cowboy though. Yeah,
that's Dean Sanders should be there. Yeah, so if there's
Bryant we saw on the list, if they're there and
they give us a few minutes, we'll get a few
minutes with them. Okay. If I don't get to talk
to Dez, will you ask him if he caught it?
Just ask him you caught it, right, if he's playing

(57:35):
in the game and it's not. Guys, you know, I
don't like to be weird. That's not weird. And I'm
sure I never gotten that question. I know, but I
don't like to be weird. I already feel like I
don't belong, so I don't want to feel like I don't.
I got you. I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
He definitely caught it.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
He for sure caught it. I want to know what
he thinks though. I think he caught it, but the
rule at the time possibly.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Said he didn't.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
So stupid, I think. But I think that would have
in our year, dude. But it's like the Tuck rule, right,
like a rule kind of had to be created because
of that situation where really this happened, but you know,
it actually happened, but the rule kind of got It's
one of those Yeah, that sucks for you, man, that
had been your year. That was it. That's the one
you have sure lost the next game, though, for sure.
All right from Tucson in Arizona. We'll see you guys soon.

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Buy everybody