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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What up though?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Three on three fans, It's your girl, Tarrika Foster Brasby,
Welcome into a brand new episode of the three on
three podcasts. Now, some voices on this podcast might sound
just a little different because somebody decided not.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
To show up to work today. I ain't gonna say no.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, Chris come to work today. He didn't want to work,
but he listen. Memorial Day weekend got a little bit
too nick for you, boy, and he decided that he
wasn't going to show up to No. In all actuality,
he is moving and so that is why he is
not here today. However, Charie and I have an awesome
(00:48):
co host, So Sharie, what's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
My lp to Rika, you know, this is my favorite
day of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Two.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It is just I have a good time anytime I
get to talk to you and or Chris and or
other people.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So shout out to everybody. I'm glad to be here.
I feel good. I just worked out, I'm hyper. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Sharie always get her work out in before I can
even begin to think about waking.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Up the morning and joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
This week as a special guest is none other than
New York posts and smy sports anchor Dexter Henry, what up, Dexter?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
What's up? Ladies?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Always good to be here on the three on three pod.
I'm glad to fill in for my brother Chris. Chris
good luck with the move because moving is never fun, right,
It's never fun.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So, you know, we were talking before the show about
how we all have like a relationship with each other,
and it's so sad that my our guest host today
I have seen and met in person more than I
have like my regular co It's a devastation. I've not
been able to crazy to hug and fellowship with you
(01:55):
and Chris Sury good in person yet.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So hopefully we make that happen very soon.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Got to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We have to make that happen. Well, when we do
make that happen, I'm sure we will be discussing some
of the same stuff we're going to be discussing on
the show today, which is NBA acting a fool because
folks getting sweat, people firing folks that we don't even
understand why they firing, and we kind of understand why
they firing them, But I'm not so sure that that's
gonna work.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So we will talk about bating bigger staff later on
in the show.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But first, the Boston Celtics decided they wanted to take
care of business. On Monday night, they beat the Pacers
one O five, one O two. They swept them up
out of the playoffs. They are sending them home away.
They were already at Owen, so they.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I guess they just got it over and got in
the car, went to the crib.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Meanwhile, Boston is gonna be looking to see who they
got going on.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I just don't know what to say about and I
want to start with Indiana first, only because I thought
that it was quite disappointing how this series ended, because
outside of Game two, this was a very winnable series
for Indiana. And I understand that injuries getting away. I
(03:14):
understand Tyree's Halliburton not playing in games three or four
truly made a difference. But I also don't understand because
in both of those situations, with less than a minute
and some change, there was opportunities for this Indiana team
to capitalize on. Jason Tatum still not really showing up
for real, like he kind of showed up in Game four.
(03:34):
He gave you a double double twenty six and thirteen,
but for real, for real, it was the Jaylen Brown show,
Like you you make a mistake by leaving Derek White
of all people who got this bald boldness about himself
now in every damning.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Baldness is.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right because it's like, what are we doing? Where was
this energy before?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like that's all you leave open and pass skelciakam my god.
Every mistake that you could possibly make at the end
of a game, I feel like he made one in
every single game, whether it was a turnover, whether it
was a missed opportunity, a bunny that you didn't hit,
a pass that you didn't make, just there were so
many things to go around. But what ultimately were your
(04:22):
biggest takeaways? Dexter from from Just This series.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah, I think there's a good point. My biggest takeaway
is one of the ones you mentioned the Pacers could have.
There's an argument. I know it's gonna some people are
gonna say, well, it got swept. No, they this could
have been three to one Pacers going to Game five,
Like it's not crazy to say that. I think my
biggest takeaway is Boston as a lot of people are
going to say, Lord, look who they played through this
(04:47):
playoffront but they're twelve and two. Their net rating is crazy, okay,
and they've been dominant in a way that I think
is not the way some people wanted to see. You
would have liked to see them smack the Pacers all
these games, but you got to give them credit for this.
They executed when they needed to, so we can just
talked about the fact that the Pacers all these turnovers,
(05:08):
the mistakes, the defensive rotations that look terrible down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
But the Pacers are a young team.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
This is what you're going to do when you haven't
been to a conference finals, and this is what's going
to happen. Boston did execute, and I think we got
to give them credit for that. I think a lot
of people wanted to see them smash this Pacers team,
and I think Boston has been I'll be nice about
how I say this. I think they've been a little
bit uninterested through these Eastern Conference playoffs. Now they better
wake up in the finals because of that. You can't
(05:34):
be playing like this and you want to see them
step But I do think Boston has shown you that
they're still strong defensively and when they need to execute
offensively down the stretch, they can. But I think they're
a level of intensity has to step up another level
if they're going to break through and win a championship.
So the way I look at this, Boston still a
really good team, right. I know it's not the way
(05:55):
people wanted to see them smash the Pacers, but they're
still a really good team. What could be concerning if
you're on the other side, if you're saying, O, dex,
I don't know about Boston, You're like, look, the Pacers
could have been up three to one, and those are facts.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
A team that executed better on the other side wins
one of those two games, and especially you know what
killed the Pacers team and Shari game one. Yeah, they
should have had Game one. They should have had Game one. Boston.
They gave that away. Literally would turnovers to them. So
I'll get Boston the credit. And I think Boston's good.
I don't think this narrative that they should have won
(06:28):
every game, blow everybody out. They're a really good defensive team.
They showed that they're doing this without Porzingis, and they
can't execute that. This team has been through the war
many times. They know how to execute down the stretch.
I think that's kind of going to bode well for
them in the finals. We'll just see how it all
plays out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Ooh, Dexter, I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm going to try to be as succinct as possible
and kind of piggyback off of some of the things
you said. I think this was a couple of weeks
ago I mentioned on the show that the Celtics need
to put the pacers away early and really made it
impression and make a statement. So for that, I'm proud
of them, and I'm proud of I'm always happy and
I'm right. But I think it's a couple of things
because I've also posed this argument and a lot of
people have that the Celtics have arguably had one of
(07:07):
the easiest runs air quotes in recent playoff history.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think we could.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think people could can kind of come to terms
and agree with that. But at the same token, I
think many of us, and possibly include myself, have been
underestimating the teams that they have played, whether they've been
hampered by injury or not.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think this was a very talented and obviously.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well coached Rick Carlisle is incredible well coached Pacers team.
Interestingly enough, when push came to shove in the stretch,
they actually became not their name, your name is the Pacers.
And you don't understand pace when it's two minutes remaining
in a game. It's quite fascinating. And yeah, you can
say coaching, but at the same time, that's where that youth,
that's where that inexperience comes in. And I just think
(07:49):
that even me, I can own the fact that I
think I underestimated this Pacers team, probably more than.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Any team on the in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Boston reminds me of the Bulls back in the day
when they would come out slow in the first quarter
and teams would get all excited.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, we went about ten twelve points and all
of a sudden, the Bulls beat them by fifteen, and
everybody knew when the second third quarter rolled around, Michael
and Scotty we're gonna get it going and the Bulls
were gonna win.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
No one ever worried.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's how I've been with the Celtics in this particular
series with the Pacers. All they're losing, Okay, all they're
within three with two minutes to go, they're gonna win.
After that first game, that was literally I didn't budge
and mind you, I want to see the Celtics win
it all. I'm just telling you guys that now. But
I literally was like, Oh, the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
They didn't do what they needed to do.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They didn't get ahead enough to circumvent the mistakes that
I knew they were going to make down the stretch
because that's who they continued to show us that they were.
So I'm shout out to the Celtics. And again, Porzincas
wasn't even playing, so who knows how dominant they'll be
when he gets back in the lineup. I do think
Jason Tatum needs to step up. We've been looking for
him for two three weeks now, me and to Rika
(08:59):
literally without an Amber alert, we're trying to find him,
especially on the defensive end. I am completely blown away
at his missteps on defense. And then Doris Burke mentioned
in Game four with the Pacers, he's got to stop
leaning on that step.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Back three point shot.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
If your why when it's falling, it's falling when it's not,
you need to do something else. And so I think
that Jason Tatum is most effective when he's attacking the basket.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
We continue to see that.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So I really hope that he doesn't cripple the Celtics
in the finals leaning into that shot, because I think
it could be a danger to them. Shout out to
Jalen Brown, who showing why he got all that money
and why it makes sense. He has continued to save
this team over throughout these playoffs, but I think in
order for them to get over the hump and win
the whole thing, him and Jason are going to have
to be in step with their level of consistency.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And Drew Holliday, for me, is the X factor.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
The way that he played in this series, in particular
with the Pacers was just when you want to look
at textbook role player school, go to textbook role player school.
He needs to be the teacher. He literally gave us
a masterclass and what it means to be an efficient
role player. I'm excited for Drew Holliday. I've always liked
this game, but how he fits and weaves into this
(10:09):
Celtics team, and he never tries to do too much.
He never goes outside of what he knows he can do,
and I think that's important to have role players like
that on a championship team. Derek White, do your thing.
If you had to go ball to knock shots down,
God bless you and God bless America. But I just
think that there was a level of underestimation that's happened
with many of us when it comes to the Eastern
(10:30):
Conference in general, and partly because the Western Conference is
so strong. But Boston showed us winners win, so at
the end of the day, whether you win by ten
or two or twenty, they know how to win basketball games.
And I think that's what makes them a danger. When
we talk about them winning it all, I think, what
if I'm being honest, I partly agree with both of you,
(10:51):
but the other part of me is that for the
way that this Boston team is constructed and the experience
that they have, winning by one or two is not
good enough. You are a team that should be dominantd
This Heat team should not have dominated you, and this
Heat team, the Miami Heat, should not have gotten a
game on you, and they did. The Cavaliers with an
(11:13):
injured Donovan Mitchell should not have taken you to Game
seven and they did. This Pacers team was literally within
one majority of this entire series, with the exception of
a game and took you to overtime in Game one.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Y'all have not dominated at all this entire.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Post is and so for me, your experience, because you've
been here before, because y'all been doing it for a while,
is what helped you get by. But I am wanting
to see this dominant number one. See, I want to
see that Celtics team. Now, granted you're right with Porzingis
coming back, because they need to.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Have Porzingis and we're assuming that he's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Coming back because remember I think I told you guys
on a previous show that they would have used them
if they needed them, but they didn't need him, and
they were hoping to not need him, and the idea
is to bring him back for the finals. They need
him in the finals because despite with anybody whoever comes
out of the West, whatever team it is that's in
(12:14):
the West, both of those teams are more battle tested
than the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Tarika in Dexter, let me ask you this, do you
guys think because I had the same expectations as youtu
Rika and I've said it on this show, the Celtics
need to stop tiptoeing and tap dancing with all these teams.
But do you think we've mismanaged our expectations of this team?
I know that they had an incredible obviously run in
the regular season. Number one seed is nothing to sneeze at,
(12:41):
But do you think our expectation of them being the.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Absolute like they're the team?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you think we've mismanaged that just overall in the
basketball space? Are they really as good as we're projecting
them to be or is this the team that's really
good but not necessarily undisputedly the team that should win
the championship. I think that's two different different types of
expectations different I think dexter I would say the same
(13:06):
thing that I think that those are two very different scenarios.
The problem that I run into is that even when
this isn't the expectation, this is still the same results
Because I'm at the same this Celtics team looks exactly
like how this Celtics team looked in the postseason last year.
Although the regular season expectations were very different, the results.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That we're seeing is still the same. Yeah, y'all are winning.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Y'all are winning, but the dominating performances, the Jason Tatum
not showing up in the moments that he needs to.
This is starting to become pattern, right, And so at
some point y'all got to look at y'allselves and say, hey,
what is it that we're not capitalizing on that keeps
putting us in this position where we should be dominating
teams and we're not. And that's not to say the
other teams are just scrubs and we're supposed to walk
(13:52):
all over them, but this is a historic run that
everybody is talking about the Celtics are being on, but
this really didn't look like a historic plus season perform
y'all won.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's great, you know what I'm saying, But I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
It, does it?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You know?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
It's funny the numbers say that it's historic in the
winning right, the twelve and two. Their net rating looks
really good, But it doesn't feel dominant.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think that's what he is.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
That's what he is talking about, right, Like, it doesn't
feel dominant. And I understand that. I think the question
that you're kind of asking around to a little bit
CHERI is does that matter, right, Like does it matter
if it feels dominant? But I think here's why the
feeling And to Tea, you tell me if I'm right
on this, because I'm kind of projecting a little bit
of what you're saying here too. The reason people feel
(14:40):
this way about the Celtics, A lot of it is
what happened last year. You guys get down to Miami
in the Conference finals three nothing right, and it was
very disappointing against a team that most people thought that
Celtics team was better than.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
We're not going to go back to two years.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Ago when they lost in the finals to the Warriors
because Steph Curry had an all time game in Game four.
That know what happened, right? That Celtics team is young
Jason Tamas twenty four. I think people have been looking
and waiting for him to grow up. That's what I
hear with t when she's saying that. Now, Chari, I
think you and I made a point that it's like, look,
it's about getting these wins. Don't matter if you win
by ten, don't matter if you win by twenty. It's
(15:17):
about getting these wins and getting it done. I think
that does matter for the Celtics team. However, here's a
little bit of concern that I think people are gonna
have at least once in a series. We want to
see you turn that switch on, yeah and blow some
oft somebody. Now, Tarika mention that Cleveland series. I thought
Trika brought up a really good point that Cleveland series,
(15:38):
No Donovan Mitchell, it still ends up going to six, right,
But there were these games where it was like three
points with five minutes ago, and then it became fifteen
and it looked like, oh Celtics won, Right. But I
think a lot of people sat back and was like, man,
I ain't impressed with any of that. I'm not impressed
with how they looking at This is the thing I'm
talking about, if that's been your energy throughout these playoffs.
(15:58):
And I do think Scherie makes a good point. We
might have underestimated some of these teams in the East,
like the Pacers, who have a lot of depth, and
I think that does matter. The Celtics weakness is their bench.
They don't have a lot of depth, right, That's something
we should be talking about whether they play whoever comes
out of the West. Can they keep up that requisite energy.
Ladies in the finals. If somebody gets in foul trouble,
(16:22):
what happens if KP gets in foul trouble? Do you
trust them against the bigs of Dallas or Minnesota? Is
the bench gonna be a factor?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Then?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I think that's something people aren't talking about with the Celtics.
Their bench, their lack of a bench is what keeps
them in a lot of these games from blowing teams
out their benches. Ain't that good? And that's something I
think we got to watch. But what we like to
see them more dominant. Yeah, but you know what, it
helped them be more dominant. Maybe if they had a
little bit more depth, they might be a little more dominant.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, that's actually not a bad point.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm not disagreeing with that point whatsoever, because I think
that who is sitting on your bench is so important
for any team, especially when the person missing from your bench.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
As the head coach. Cleveland Cavaliers are now without a coach.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And from what my sources, which are really not my sources,
it's just me reading. I was about to say, you
Stephen a Smith, God's sister, because they about somebody that
has sourced somebody he texts or talked to.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Sorry that was so pretty.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Was just reading Bryan Winworth article, that's all.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But it just it just appears that this was a
move that was not unexpected by some in the organization,
and also that it was a ploy to try to
make coming back to Cleveland a bit more attractive to
Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But all in all, you know, Sharie, overall thoughts on
Cleveland making this.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Move, Yo, I was super shocked. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And I know, from a regular season standpoint, you know,
the Cavaliers fair just shy of what they did this
season before. But when we look at the fact that
they advanced to the second round versus what didn't happen
the season before, it's kind of like the skills were
pretty balanced. And obviously when you look at postseason, to me,
you know, that's a big part of what will keep
a coach in place is if they're able to elevate
that every season. And so I was really shocked by
(18:13):
the move. And then to your point as well, Tarika,
about your sewers the article that you read, I had
to kind of check myself and say, you know, I
don't know what's going going on internally with this organization,
and I don't know who possibly pissed off Whop. So
that also is the thing that kind of moves the
needle when we see head coaches, you know, to switch out.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
We saw it with the Bucks. I won't even go
into that. Y'all know how I feel about Doc River.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Say Doc, but I think it's fair to say that.
You know, if you're trying to keep a player like
Donovan Mitchell happy and keep them in a Calves uniform
and rightfully so, you do need to make moves like that.
I think it's very difficult for teams when you're switching
out coaches in this way, to come back with the
(18:56):
same level of success oftentimes that they had the season before.
Actually when they're coming off a strong year. But you
get Donovan Mitchell back, you have the core. He's the
leader of this team. So it's interesting. But you know,
I'm a little disappointed. I just I like when people
do well. I don't like when people do well and
they have to go and get another job. It's just
the personal part of it I don't do well with.
(19:19):
But business is business, and we'll see. And again we
saw with Lebron you bring somebody in to make a
player happy, and it doesn't always work out in the
way that you think. We saw it with Milwaukee despite
Giannis's injury. So I think people, I think it's playing
with fire and if the Calves are willing to.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Play like a match, do your thing. I wish you
all the best.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think the Calves as a team have a lot
of potential to go far, but it's a risk.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Nonetheless, sometimes I just want to say, what are we doing?
I look at these organizations. I'm like, you got to
look at yourself. You are the Cleveland Calf without Lebron James.
Let's be very clear about what that era has been.
Jami Beitcherstaff won ninety nine games in the last two seasons.
Right this past season, he had Donovan Mitchell out for
(20:12):
a period, Darius Garland was out, Jared Allen was out.
The team was never really whole. We saw what happened
the year before where they got punked by the Knicks
in the first round. Jary Bickerstaff is a good coach.
My question around all this stuff all the time is
who are you bringing in that's better? That's the real question.
You had some continuity. This is the best you've been
since Lebron left you guys again, who are you bringing
(20:35):
in that's better. I'm not sure you're going to bring
in anybody that's going to help Donovan Mitchell stay in Cleveland.
I'm not really sure about that because it's Cleveland. That's
why I'm not sure any of that is going to happen.
So what are we What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Were you being patty right there? Because I want to laugh,
but I don't want to be rude. Jarka's face turned.
I just want to make sure.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
That can last.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Just want to make laugh and I'm good.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I've been honest.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I've been honest, ladies, not petty honest, I said, I've
just been honest. Cleveland knows who they are, That's all
I'm saying. You got to know who you are. You're
out here acting like you do somebody else that you
could just come out here.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
You can't do this. What are we doing here? What
did JB?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Bickerstaff was doing his job. He was coaching and coaching
pretty well right despite all the circumstances. And now we're
moving on. I just want to see who they get
this better, because I think Shari brings up great points.
You look at Milwaukee and what happened. Always looking where
the grass is greener or making a change for chain's
sake doesn't always work out, guys, And you know what
(21:40):
can still happen, ladies, Donovan Mitchell can still leave. Oh yeah,
why because I'm gonna be petty here. I'll just embrace
what Tarika said because it's Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's why. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Period, And that's I'm glad you got to the point
that I was going to eventually go circle back to
y'all doing all of this, and Donovan Mitch, you could still.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Be like you know what, be like my be like
my man magic. Just all right, everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So we have a new game that we are debuting
to discuss all of the headlines around the w NBA,
proper reaction or overreaction. There has been so much action
in the w NBA over the last two weeks that
I am I find myself saying this almost every single week, like,
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oh my god, something amazing has happened, because something amazing
has happened almost every week in the w n B
A and it was so much.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
For us to get into that I felt the best
way for us to get to all of it just
to play a little game.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Come on, games, good idea here.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
For the games.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So this game is of a reaction or proper reaction.
I'm going to throw out some statements and I want
you and Dexter to let me know whether or not
the statement is an overreaction or if it makes sense,
if it's a proper reaction.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
First things first, and because you know we have a
special guest who represents the New York market, We're going
to start with the New York Liberty. So New York
Liberty in the offseason didn't do enough to keep up
with the rest of the league this year, and this
start shows it. Dexter, is that an overreaction or a
proper reaction?
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I think it is an overreaction. I know the Liberty
have dropped their last two games. They didn't look good
against the Sky, didn't look good against the Links. But
here's the issues for the Liberty in those games. Turnovers
and they're play inside right, JJ got in foul trouble
in both of these games. They've got beasted on the boards,
and they've just been sloppy with the ball. I think
The Liberty will work it out that back home for
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a three game homestand I wouldn't overreact.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You know this Tea.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
There wasn't that much the Liberty could do this offseason
with their cap situation, so I think they will be fine.
I'm not worried about all this, but you know, it's
early in the season. People gotta overreact.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I understand it all, but nah, I'm gonna pump the breaks.
The Liberty is gonna be fine. They didn't look I'm
not saying they look good in those two games, ladies,
because they did not look good. They gotta clean some
things up. But I think they will clean those things
up and they'll be fine. So I'm gonna say, overreaction,
let's pump the breaks on this one.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Sure, Okay, I'm gonna agree with Dexter, but I will
say this. I'm tired of Dexter. You just said it now,
so I'm gonna throw you in this. Dexter and Tarrika,
I'm tired of the Liberty, specifically.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Hearing they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
They just lost through lost and loss, but they're gonna
be fine. Like y'all got about another week or two
to say that, and then it's gonna be a proper reaction.
But in this instance, I'll give you an overreaction. I
do think that the Liberty have the tools to do
very well. I don't know if it's a jail situation
with them right now, but also understanding that there are
a lot of other teams that are getting better and
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that are playing better, and so I think it's a
matter of them just stepping their game up. And like
Dex mentioned, taking care of the basketball is key. But
they got superstars on that team, Like, let's not act
like we don't know who's on that roster.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
So right now, as of this.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Week, it is an overreaction. Two weeks from now, if
they still losing, it is the proper reaction.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm going to agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I certainly think it is an overreaction right now. And
from personal experience, I was one who was very loud
last season about how this team did not have that
it and I still feel like this team doesn't have
Like there is something about this Liberty team that I
can't put my finger on that it just doesn't have
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that it thing. And it is a bunch of great
individual players, but for some reason, this is the second
year in a row where it has been a struggle for.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Them to find that continuity as a team.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And the argument that I made last season, which is
the argument I'm going to continue to make this season,
is that when you play in the New York market,
yes there are forty games, but you do not have
the time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You're thinking.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yorkers don't want to wait gracefully for you to figure
it out. They want you to win and win now,
especially when they know that you have the key pieces
to really win a championship, to really be a contender.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They they're not They're not patient. New Yorkers are not patient.
Have you ever driven in New York?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
They are not.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
There's no there is no room for waiting to figure
it out. You got to figure it out, and you
got to figure it out soon. And although there was
a bit of grace that was given last season, I
don't know if you'll get that grace this season, given
that you're essentially bringing back the second corps and that
and and I think the only consistent piece that I
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see is benign Jelaney Hamilton. She is consistent day and
day out offensively on the defensive end. She's one that
will certainly make your life a living hell if she
has to guard you.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So hopefully they will get it together.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Let me ask you this t because I thought Shari
brought up a really great point to that that if
they don't get it together soon, right, this is a
situation where it could be getting late early. As I
like to say, sometimes right, it's be getting late early.
Let's say they go one and two on this home stand.
Let's say let's just say throwing that out there, are
we officially concerned? Are we now in the overreaction.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Reaction territory at.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Proper reaction territory, Sorry, proper reaction, proper folks, proper reaction. Yeah,
I think so, And I think I think you made
some good points. Consistency. Benijelani has been their best player
this season, hands down. They got to get it together.
I think listen, if they've dropped one of these games
and they were five and one, would we would we
even be talking about this? No?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Probably not. But they did.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Drop these two games, and this is where Sharison not
giving them a pass. And I think two things can
be true. Yeah, I'm not gonna overreact. But like I said,
it could get late early, real soon, and that Tarika
is gonna be talking that talk and we're all gonna
know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Correct, stop saying and I'm an Indian and start seeing
a New York hater for both They just gonna love
them together this season. Sorry, every year I'm a hater
for someone. We need to discontinue the word hater. But
that is an entirely differ conversation. People, You are socially
inappropriate and certainly overreacting ninety nine point nine percent of
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the time when you use the term hater.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Back to the game, so so crazy, Okay, back to
the game. All right, the Minnesota Links are title contenders.
Overreaction or proper reaction, sure, we will start with you.
I think that's a proper reaction For now. I think
they look pretty darn good. I love what they're doing
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from the outside. I mean they are. They're dangerous for
a lack of a better term. They destroyed the dream
I was in awe just I mean, the game started
tightening all of a sudden. They just ran away with it.
And one of the reasons why is they just shoot
so well from beyond the arc. I think they're playing
with a certain level of confidence that we can certainly
see them down the line, and they can certainly be
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title contenders again very early. But I think we like
to get excited about about things, whether whether a team
is extremely successful or whether they're struggling, so we tend
to overreact and lean into what we're seeing. So I'm
gonna go a head and lean into how well they're
playing right now and say that is actually a proper
reaction for now.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I'm going with cautiously proper reaction, right And I made
up my whole other category there. But here's here's my thing. Look,
you got to be oppressed with them, right look at
their wins beat Seattle twice. They could easily be five
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and oh one point lost to Connecticut right to you.
You saw you saw that. You know, you know all
about that. Right there, This team is balling. The Phisiacalia
has been amazing, and we'll get to her later in
this show. She's been amazing right here, So they look
like a title caner. They look like they're starting to
geil something we just talked about that we might think
it's not going on with the Liberty. But this team
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looks like they're starting to put it together. We saw
them play well towards the end of last season, so
I think that this team is right there. I don't
know if I want to call them a title contender yet,
but I don't think it's an overreaction to say that
they're playing really well and looking like a title contender.
Look at the talent they've played against. Look at their wins. Then,
as Shari just talked about, they took care of business
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against the Dream, which is something you would want to
see a title contender do Liberty that they didn't do there.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Not to take shots of Liberty again.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
But I'm saying seeming is like, I like this, I
love all that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
She's like, that's get a.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
No.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
But they're looking good. They're looking good. So I know
I made a whole new category. But yeah, I think
it's a cautiously proper reaction. I think so cautious.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm going to remove your cautious because I do agree
that it is a proper reaction. And I think what's
really interesting, or not even so much as interesting, but
just a reaffirmation of what we already knew Cheryl Reeve
is that girl like Cheryl Reeve is simply that girl.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It does not matter what you throw at her.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Because even when we saw a whole new look for
the Minnesota Links with no Sylvia files, we were like, Lord,
have mercy, what's gonna happen with this team?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
What is their new identity going to be? By the
end of the twenty.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Twenty three season, we were like, dang, this Minnesota team
is nasty. And they ended up making the postseason, right,
So I think my surprise or impression of this team
was not that they would be good, but that they
would be good this early ye this soul like already
five games in and y'all were a point away from
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being undefeated. Nafisa Collier always an MVP candidate over the
last few years. Kayla McBride, the stroke is stroking, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It is like she is such a shooter.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And I don't know what she saw in the Tishahanaman
and Courtney Williams, but whatever it was, it works like
it works with that team.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And so I just think that Cheryl Reeve just my.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
God, she is she is who she is, and she
makes it work and it is working with them. But
shout out to Diamond Miller though she is going to
be out for an indefinite time with a knee injury.
And what's crazy is I was covering that game and
I saw her leave the bench with about a minute
and thirty seconds left in the second quarter, and I
saw her going to bag. But I was thinking, like, oh, okay,
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no big deal, it's about the behalftime. Whatever it is,
She'll be out after the half. And by the time
we got to the end of the half, I got
the message that she was going to be not returning
for the rest of the game, and I'm like, wow.
So there's a bit of sadness there, because you know
how it is as a sophomore.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You want to come back, you want to ball out,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
There are a lot of expectations when you're the number
two overall pick, and so to have an injury kind
of put a damper on this season for her this
early is so unfortunate to see.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But we're gonna keep her lifted. She's gonna be all right.
You know what, else, We're gonna keep lifted in prayer the.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Las Vegas aces because they have waved rookie that dia
Jahfair Now we all have some love for Diijah Fair. However,
with her being waived, was this a good move or
a bad move for the Aces? A lot of people
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are saying that it's a bad move. Do y'all think
that is an overreaction or a proper reaction.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I'm not gonna overreact. I'm not gonna call this an
overreaction to this in terms of their waving her. Look,
this team has consistently made good roster decisions.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
We've seen that. We've seen that time and time again.
So I'm going to trust that front office.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I'm gonna trust that coaching staff and say that, hey,
if they didn't think she could help the team, if
they don't, you could help the team.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Excuse me, She'll be there if they can't. If she couldn't,
then she would not be there.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
So I'm going to say that people saying that it's
a bad move overreaction. Trust the Aces on this disappointing
God love for wanted to see on that roster, but
you gotta trust. You gotta trust this team and what
they've built and what they've done. So I'm going to
say overreaction.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I want to say proper reaction just because of my disappointment.
We have seen so many talented players get waived and
you know, have to ball out overseas and try it
again the next year.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And de Henny is one of them who I've just
been pulling. I've been pulling for her for the last
couple of years and she just can't land somewhere.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But super talented and it also just speaks to the
fact there's not enough teams, there's not enough roster spots.
So I think it's a proper reaction because the frustration
behind seeing these really incredible players just not be able
to be where they deserve to be simply because there's
not enough space for them. For me, I think it's
more disappointing that she made it through you know, preseason cuts.
We assume that she would be there a few games in.
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Now she's being waved, so I think that again kind
of adds to my frustration. It's just so much talent
out here, guys, that it really is disheartening to see.
I think, you know, if given a chance, she could
add an element. But to your point, Dexter, the Aces
are a.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Very strong team.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
As we know, they're defending champs, and they're defending champs
for a reason, and so I think we can trust that.
But I just feel like Daijah Fair has been getting
the short end of the stick in terms of being
recognized for how great she is for quite some time,
even when she was with Syracuston. For me, that is
the disappointment that she's moved on to the next level
and assumingly in a position where she can finally get
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that opportunity to really be spotlighted for the greatness that
she possesses, and now again she's in a situation where
she's being dismissed.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Now it's business. I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I do hope she lands somewhere else, but from just
a fan frustration standpoint, I think it is a proper reaction,
and I do wish her well. I think it's an
overreaction only because if this move, which I believe it is,
I don't know, but I believe this move was simply
because Chelsea Gray may be ready to come back and
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they just didn't have spots on the roster. And I
don't think it at all has anything to do with
her talent or ability to be successful in the w
n b A. So if that is the case, then
I can't say it's a bad move because that's Chelsea
Gray to be on that rock, right, So it's an
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under it's a it's a it's a definitely a disappointing move,
but I'm not sure that I could say a bad one,
which is the only reason why I would say that
reaction would be overrated. Now, a couple questions for me.
Number one, does she still get to keep one hundred thousand?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
That was the question.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Dude, still get to keep her coin?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Technically, y'all need to give her that Trey'.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Coin Gray because she earned She earned it for a
few weeks she was there. That's number one or two.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I think it's important to add that we definitely just
were alerted officially, even though we already knew, but officially.
Last week it was announced that there is a new
team that will be expanded in the city of Toronto
in Canada.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So when you add the Toronto.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Team plus the Golden State team that's coming next season,
that's a good twenty four additional spots that somebody has
an opportunity to grab.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
So what you do is just work your way through
this season.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
If I'm Asia girl, people get injured, the people like
it's an Olympic year. There are opportunities for you to
find a spot for a piece of hero or a
piece of there to gone in on your craft. And
next year when that additional team then is official and
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we're starting to do this expansion draft and we're looking
for pieces. Positioning yourself to be someone that a team
can't miss, be someone that a team has to have.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Like, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I'm not looking at this as I can't believe I
got you know, and I'm not saying she is.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm just thinking.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
My mindset is there are two new teams coming to
the w there are opportunities for me to continue to
hone in on my skill set. Let me do that
so that when those other positions open up, I make
it difficult for them to say we don't want her
as a permanent roster spot.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's that's how I would approach it.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I think we all would agree, right, we be stunned
based on what you just said to you there, stunned
if she's not in the league next year with the
Valkyries coming in right like, it will be stunning. Granted,
there's gonna be a lot of good new talent coming
into the league, but we know she could hoop, and
I think you're right to her agent's got to be
telling her that stay ready.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
You made it.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
The other great point. You may forget about next year.
Injuries can happen this year and somebody is going to
need your services. You can't tell me she can't help
another team off the bench, Like I find that crazy
to think. We think now she could, right, but all
it takes something to open up somewhere, some other team
that can use their services, and I think that's very
likely to happen. So she's just got to stay ready.
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I think that's a fantastic point there. Yeah, got to
stay ready.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I agree, and I just for her in particular. I
just feel like we're gonna look up in a couple
of years and she's gonna have one of those stories
where it's like, Yo, she got cut from the Ace's
her rookie season, and two years in she just kept working,
and she kept working, and now at the she's one
of the premier players in the league.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Like she's just that talented. Now.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I know hype makes a difference, but we've had players
to prove that yes and no, that for that to
be the case or not, she's just that talented. I'm
excited for her future, even though this is, you know,
a disappointment, and it may I'm sure it's a disappointment
for her and her team, but to both of you
all's point, there's a lot of promise with her because
of what's happening with the league. So I just think
we're going to look towards her career in a couple
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of years and she's going to be one of those
like miracle stories.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
For the w So I'm excited about her future.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Action.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
All I'm trying to say is Becky Hammond went undrafted
and ill. Oh yeah, So I mean, you know, everybody
has a story and if then you see the kind
of career in person that she is, so it ain't over.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It ain't over until it's over. All right, keeping it
moving here.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Alyssa Thomas should be suspended for her aggressive play on
Angel Reese.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Overreaction or proper reaction.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I jump, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
This is my thing.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I think it is somewhat of an overreaction. I would
say finer, but they don't have what she gonna pay
y'all two dollars, so you can't you can't find her
because that was my thing. Though, if you can find her,
just go ahead and do your thing. You know, what
she did wasn't cool, but I got to say I
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like the chippiness of it, I think. And mind you,
we've been talking about this and I'm not saying that people.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying this that the bad.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Boys of Detroit shout out to the bad Boys, but
they reinvigorated the league and recalibrated the league at that time.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
And I know Terriga's loving my good talking.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I'm doing this on purpose because I need somebody to
be on my side.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I do think it's a bit of an overreaction.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I do think it's a bit of an overreaction simply
because things like this happen. It gets chippy. What I
didn't like and what I understand why I understand why
people are also saying she should be suspended.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I didn't like her response to her own behavior.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Walking off like yeah, like there was another way that
she could have responded. We saw, for instance, I'll give
you this, Let's go NBA for just a moment. Jalen
Brown's foul his not flagrant full that many people thought
it was a flaker filing the Game four of.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
The Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
His response to that play, he immediately rushed over and
then he told the ref I was going for the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
To me, I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
So that's a different response than Alyssa saying, Wow, I'm
going over to the other side. Y'all girl, get up
when you feel like it. I'm you know you in
my league now. So I think the chippinness of it
is good for the league. Not to say the league
hasn't been chippy all this time, because as we know,
it has been. I think it's a slight overreaction. I
really wish you could just find her, find the fifty dollars,
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and have a paid the fifty dollars and everybody move forward.
But suspending, yeah, I think you gotta throw a good
punch or a good kick, karate chop kick.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Or something to be suspended.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But I do think if her behavior in any way
channels this moving further, then I do think you need
to look into a suspension because you don't want players
continue to get away with things like this, and this
is becoming an habitual way that they move. So beyond
this point, if she's weird again. That's when I would
say proper reaction.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Suspension.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yeah, for me, this was an absolute overreaction. You know,
I kind of got that out there a little bit
early before. But I think I agree with a lot
of what Charie said here, right, And I think intent
history matters. This isn't Draymond Green because we all know
he'd be wild.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
They all know that, right, We know that about him.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Now what I do think matters here a little bit, guys,
is this was building up. If you watched a couple
of possessions before they were tussling, she was giving it
to Angel Reeve at that at one point she got
the rebound At did and cleared out with the elbow there.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Right. We saw this.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
At was clearly trying to send a message. Here's the
thing I'm with Chari on this. I love it. I
love it. I love it.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I love it. And you know why we all do. Charie.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I know you grew up rooting for the Bulls, Tarika,
you grew up rooting for the Pistas. We know what
time it is, the way those teams used to play
back in the day, right, we know what time this is.
So I like that and Here's the thing. I think
Angel Reese wasn't tripping about any of this.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
I love.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
She wasn't tripping about the actually know each other. They're
from the same area to the ground. Okay, the game,
We're gonna go to dinner.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Yeah, they understand. She understood what it was. She's like,
At is trying to send me a message. Let me know, girl,
down low, You're gonna have to bang. It's gonna be
tough in here. There's no problems with that.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Did at goal a little bit over the top? Absolutely?
She had the arm on her neck. You can't have that.
I'm with Churi. If you could find her, find her,
keep it moving. Should At have been a little bit
more contrite in her actions, Yes, she kind of. She
kind of walked up like.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Like, imagine, can you imagine Bill limb Beard knocking a hell?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You all right? I didn't mean it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
No, bro, you ain't on my team. Your teammates gonna
help you in.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
And I absolutely love it. It is one hundred percent
and overreaction. There's no way she should be suspended. I
distinctly recall a play last year in the postseason when
JJ and Asia Wilson got into it. And if people
over here calling for JJ head talking about that was
a dirty play, you're a dirty player.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
JJ is the furthest.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Thing from a freaking Toria, how did they say it?
Speaker 4 (45:30):
I would.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
She she's always man dirty.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
You even know what you're saying? So ridiculous. It's not
a dirty player, and neither is At.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
And I would have looked at At like she was crazy,
and she'd have turned around and been like, Angel Race,
are you okay?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm gonna see at later?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Because because I cover their games and I will absolutely
be like Alysta, that's what we do.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
She would have been ashamed, probably gonna and say I
just talked to Angel.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
I just talked to Angel yesterday and we both laughed
about it.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
And on top of that, Angel ain't no saints her
lesship down there banging too? It was it aggressive, extra physical, necessary?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Absolutely not? Was it warranted of a flagrant too?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Absolutely suspending her if y'all going somewhere on with this
boot and it didn't matter because guess what, Connecticut still won.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Moving well, then, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Well, that's upsetting, but it is what it is?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Still all right, guys coming up after this. We have
a really special jump ball segment this week because we
lost a basketball giant and Bill Walton, so our co
host Sharie Dexter, they're going to share their thoughts right
after this. What's going on three on three Pod Family
(46:57):
back again. It's she Grol, Serena Coleterrika Foster, Brasbe and
our special guests Dexter, Henry and I know we've shared
a lot of laughs over the course of this show,
but we do want to move into a more serious
topic where we can just pay homage to the life
and legacy of the late great Bill Walton. We lost
him a couple of days ago. He had a battle
with cancer. Interestingly enough, I didn't even know he was sick.
I don't know if you guys knew, but died at
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the age of seventy one. In such a staple when
you think about not only professional basketball NBA, but also
collegiate basketball, and then obviously how he seamlessly transitioned into
being one of the best color commentators that the game
has ever seen.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Just a big personality all around.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
In a big loss, you know, in the basketball family,
So we wanted to take some time just to talk
about you know all he's meant to the game of
basketball and much more.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
And so I'll go to you first, Dexter.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I'll go to you first, and just your initial thoughts
when you heard about Bill's passing, and also just the
impression that he left on you as well.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yeah, I was stunned because I did not know he
was sick either, not that we had to know, not
saying that we did have to know, but I was stunned,
and immediately it hit me. You know, this is somebody
who was a favorite color commentary commentator of mine, is
somebody who loves basketball, loves the NBA. And I think
the thing when I think of Bill Walton, the thing
that I loved about him. I know some people will
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say it's the crazy stuff that he said that anything
was the greatest thing in Western civilization, and I love
that phrase from him all the time. But I think
it was just that I loved it. He just didn't give.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
A damn for the most part in terms of.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
The way he did his color commentary was like, look,
I'm just gonna enjoy this.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
I'm gonna be me.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
And I think that's a lesson for everybody out in
sports broadcasting is just be you. There's no other option
than to just be you. And I think, you know,
I never got to meet him, but I know other
people who have, and I think the thing you saw
with him was just the passion he had for life,
not just basketball, but life, right, And that matters so
much because it's such a short time we have on
this earth and we're blessed to do what we're able to,
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you know, love, And this is why we're able to
talk on this podcast and have fun and enjoy it
and be ourselves. I think it's because we've seen people
like Bill Walton do it at that at that level,
and that that matters so much. So to me, just
so inspiring. One of my favorites will be sorely missed.
And what he brought to the game. He's just somebody
unique to the sport of basketball and what he brought. Now,
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it's not even talking about what he did on the court.
We didn't even talk about what he did at UCLA
as a champion, also winning with the Blazers, winning with
the Celtics. We didn't even talk about that. You know,
it's almost I think about it more, but his contribution
since the sports broadcaster sometimes at least for somebody in
my error. Then you know what he did as a
basketball player. So I just want to say salute to
the legendary Bill Walton. I'm glad that we took time
(49:35):
out to talk about him here today, and he's a legend.
He'll be missed, but his impact on the game never
will be forgotten for sure.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I don't really have much to add after that, Dexter,
because you pretty much nailed it. As someone that's in
media and broadcasting, it was a pleasure to always hear
Bill Watson on a call, just his energy and his
personality that he brings.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
He was very relatable.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I think Bill Walt maybe the only person I know
who could get love as a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
In LA and Boston.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I don't think that's ever happened anywhere and probably won't
ever happen again, even though it was the Clippers. Regardless
of what he was just a person from what I
could see. You know, we were at ESPN around the
same time, but I never got an opportunity to meet
him or talk to him, so I only had the
stories of what other people said about him, and I
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didn't really hear anyone say anything negative about working with
him being in his presence, and that's been felt over
the last few days just listening to what so many
other greats in the game have had to say about him.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I did get an.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Opportunity to meet his son, Luke, though, and Luke was
really funny. So with all of that being said, I
send all of my thoughts in love to his family,
to those who knew him loved him, Extreme peace and
comfort to all of them during this time. It's not
going to be easy, but I hope they know and
feel that they are loved by so many other people
(50:59):
who loved to be and so so yeah, much much respect. Yeah,
I'll just add to that really briefly. One of the
things that you guys both mentioned was just Bill zeal
for life. And I was looking at Game four of
the Eastern Conference Finals and they were listing some of
his achievements and one of the bullet points was he
attended like over a thousand Grateful Dead concerts, which I
thought was a very interesting thing to put in there,
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but it just spoke about again, he lived life. And
so you know, as people around the world more in
this loss, there is a level of happiness around the
fact that we're talking about somebody that lived life to
the absolute fullest. I was watching it up mornings and
just hearing the stories that Jay Williams talked about in Greeney,
and again, a lot of it wasn't about.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
What he accomplished on the hardwood.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
A lot of it was about the impression that he
made on these men and how he took time out
to spend time with them and talk to them and
inquire about how their families were doing. And I think,
you know, when people leave here, that's what we should
be talking about. You know, achievements and success. It's a
great thing thing we all aim to have. But at
the same time, what do you mean to others? And
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I think there was a level of servitude that seeps
in the entirety of Bill Walton's legacy that I'm grateful
that we get to talk about on this show. So
I echo both your sentiments. And as to Rica said,
you know, Mike co dolences go out to his family's
friends and his fans. Big loss, big loss, big big loss.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well, it is the it's the end of the it's
the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And I'm actually gonna cry.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Don't cry to Rica, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
My feelings are hurt because I don't know when we're
gonna see Dexter again. Oh yeah, maybe we don't want
Maybe we just last the tires of the moving truck
that Chris is using, and he'll he'll have to push
the move back and do more moving into next into
next week.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
You know where that that I appreciated that that you
felt this sadness because it lets me know that despite
all the petty energy that you believe that I've.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Oh, I believe you've done it. I'm an alignment. You
are extremely petty. Did it it was?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
You did not make this up, but you.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
Appreciate it, so that I appreciate y'all.
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What up though?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Three on three fans, It's your girl, Tarrika Foster Brasby,
Welcome into a brand new episode of the three on
three podcasts. Now, some voices on this podcast might sound
just a little different because somebody decided not.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
To show up to work today. I ain't gonna say no.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, Chris come to work today. He didn't want to work,
but he listen. Memorial Day weekend got a little bit
too nick for you, boy, and he decided that he
wasn't going to show up to No. In all actuality,
he is moving and so that is why he is
not here today. However, Charie and I have an awesome
(00:48):
co host, So Sharie, what's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
My lp to Rika, you know, this is my favorite
day of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Two.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It is just I have a good time anytime I
get to talk to you and or Chris and or
other people.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So shout out to everybody. I'm glad to be here.
I feel good. I just worked out, I'm hyper. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Sharie always get her work out in before I can
even begin to think about waking.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Up the morning and joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
This week as a special guest is none other than
New York posts and smy sports anchor Dexter Henry, what up, Dexter?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
What's up? Ladies?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Always good to be here on the three on three pod.
I'm glad to fill in for my brother Chris. Chris
good luck with the move because moving is never fun, right,
It's never fun.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So, you know, we were talking before the show about
how we all have like a relationship with each other,
and it's so sad that my our guest host today
I have seen and met in person more than I
have like my regular co It's a devastation. I've not
been able to crazy to hug and fellowship with you
(01:55):
and Chris Sury good in person yet.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So hopefully we make that happen very soon.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Got to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We have to make that happen. Well, when we do
make that happen, I'm sure we will be discussing some
of the same stuff we're going to be discussing on
the show today, which is NBA acting a fool because
folks getting sweat, people firing folks that we don't even
understand why they firing, and we kind of understand why
they firing them, But I'm not so sure that that's
gonna work.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So we will talk about bating bigger staff later on
in the show.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But first, the Boston Celtics decided they wanted to take
care of business. On Monday night, they beat the Pacers
one O five, one O two. They swept them up
out of the playoffs. They are sending them home away.
They were already at Owen, so they.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I guess they just got it over and got in
the car, went to the crib.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Meanwhile, Boston is gonna be looking to see who they
got going on.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I just don't know what to say about and I
want to start with Indiana first, only because I thought
that it was quite disappointing how this series ended, because
outside of Game two, this was a very winnable series
for Indiana. And I understand that injuries getting away. I
(03:14):
understand Tyree's Halliburton not playing in games three or four
truly made a difference. But I also don't understand because
in both of those situations, with less than a minute
and some change, there was opportunities for this Indiana team
to capitalize on. Jason Tatum still not really showing up
for real, like he kind of showed up in Game four.
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He gave you a double double twenty six and thirteen,
but for real, for real, it was the Jaylen Brown show,
Like you you make a mistake by leaving Derek White
of all people who got this bald boldness about himself
now in every damning.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Baldness is.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right because it's like, what are we doing? Where was
this energy before?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like that's all you leave open and pass skelciakam my god.
Every mistake that you could possibly make at the end
of a game, I feel like he made one in
every single game, whether it was a turnover, whether it
was a missed opportunity, a bunny that you didn't hit,
a pass that you didn't make, just there were so
many things to go around. But what ultimately were your
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biggest takeaways? Dexter from from Just This series.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah, I think there's a good point. My biggest takeaway
is one of the ones you mentioned the Pacers could have.
There's an argument. I know it's gonna some people are
gonna say, well, it got swept. No, they this could
have been three to one Pacers going to Game five,
Like it's not crazy to say that. I think my
biggest takeaway is Boston as a lot of people are
going to say, Lord, look who they played through this
(04:47):
playoffront but they're twelve and two. Their net rating is crazy, okay,
and they've been dominant in a way that I think
is not the way some people wanted to see. You
would have liked to see them smack the Pacers all
these games, but you got to give them credit for this.
They executed when they needed to, so we can just
talked about the fact that the Pacers all these turnovers,
(05:08):
the mistakes, the defensive rotations that look terrible down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
But the Pacers are a young team.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
This is what you're going to do when you haven't
been to a conference finals, and this is what's going
to happen. Boston did execute, and I think we got
to give them credit for that. I think a lot
of people wanted to see them smash this Pacers team,
and I think Boston has been I'll be nice about
how I say this. I think they've been a little
bit uninterested through these Eastern Conference playoffs. Now they better
wake up in the finals because of that. You can't
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be playing like this and you want to see them
step But I do think Boston has shown you that
they're still strong defensively and when they need to execute
offensively down the stretch, they can. But I think they're
a level of intensity has to step up another level
if they're going to break through and win a championship.
So the way I look at this, Boston still a
really good team, right. I know it's not the way
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people wanted to see them smash the Pacers, but they're
still a really good team. What could be concerning if
you're on the other side, if you're saying, O, dex,
I don't know about Boston, You're like, look, the Pacers
could have been up three to one, and those are facts.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
A team that executed better on the other side wins
one of those two games, and especially you know what
killed the Pacers team and Shari game one. Yeah, they
should have had Game one. They should have had Game one. Boston.
They gave that away. Literally would turnovers to them. So
I'll get Boston the credit. And I think Boston's good.
I don't think this narrative that they should have won
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every game, blow everybody out. They're a really good defensive team.
They showed that they're doing this without Porzingis, and they
can't execute that. This team has been through the war
many times. They know how to execute down the stretch.
I think that's kind of going to bode well for
them in the finals. We'll just see how it all
plays out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Ooh, Dexter, I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm going to try to be as succinct as possible
and kind of piggyback off of some of the things
you said. I think this was a couple of weeks
ago I mentioned on the show that the Celtics need
to put the pacers away early and really made it
impression and make a statement. So for that, I'm proud
of them, and I'm proud of I'm always happy and
I'm right. But I think it's a couple of things
because I've also posed this argument and a lot of
people have that the Celtics have arguably had one of
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the easiest runs air quotes in recent playoff history.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think we could.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think people could can kind of come to terms
and agree with that. But at the same token, I
think many of us, and possibly include myself, have been
underestimating the teams that they have played, whether they've been
hampered by injury or not.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think this was a very talented and obviously.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well coached Rick Carlisle is incredible well coached Pacers team.
Interestingly enough, when push came to shove in the stretch,
they actually became not their name, your name is the Pacers.
And you don't understand pace when it's two minutes remaining
in a game. It's quite fascinating. And yeah, you can
say coaching, but at the same time, that's where that youth,
that's where that inexperience comes in. And I just think
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that even me, I can own the fact that I
think I underestimated this Pacers team, probably more than.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Any team on the in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Boston reminds me of the Bulls back in the day
when they would come out slow in the first quarter
and teams would get all excited.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, we went about ten twelve points and all
of a sudden, the Bulls beat them by fifteen, and
everybody knew when the second third quarter rolled around, Michael
and Scotty we're gonna get it going and the Bulls
were gonna win.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
No one ever worried.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's how I've been with the Celtics in this particular
series with the Pacers. All they're losing, Okay, all they're
within three with two minutes to go, they're gonna win.
After that first game, that was literally I didn't budge
and mind you, I want to see the Celtics win
it all. I'm just telling you guys that now. But
I literally was like, Oh, the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
They didn't do what they needed to do.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They didn't get ahead enough to circumvent the mistakes that
I knew they were going to make down the stretch
because that's who they continued to show us that they were.
So I'm shout out to the Celtics. And again, Porzincas
wasn't even playing, so who knows how dominant they'll be
when he gets back in the lineup. I do think
Jason Tatum needs to step up. We've been looking for
him for two three weeks now, me and to Rika
(08:59):
literally without an Amber alert, we're trying to find him,
especially on the defensive end. I am completely blown away
at his missteps on defense. And then Doris Burke mentioned
in Game four with the Pacers, he's got to stop
leaning on that step.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Back three point shot.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
If your why when it's falling, it's falling when it's not,
you need to do something else. And so I think
that Jason Tatum is most effective when he's attacking the basket.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
We continue to see that.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So I really hope that he doesn't cripple the Celtics
in the finals leaning into that shot, because I think
it could be a danger to them. Shout out to
Jalen Brown, who showing why he got all that money
and why it makes sense. He has continued to save
this team over throughout these playoffs, but I think in
order for them to get over the hump and win
the whole thing, him and Jason are going to have
to be in step with their level of consistency.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And Drew Holliday, for me, is the X factor.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
The way that he played in this series, in particular
with the Pacers was just when you want to look
at textbook role player school, go to textbook role player school.
He needs to be the teacher. He literally gave us
a masterclass and what it means to be an efficient
role player. I'm excited for Drew Holliday. I've always liked
this game, but how he fits and weaves into this
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Celtics team, and he never tries to do too much.
He never goes outside of what he knows he can do,
and I think that's important to have role players like
that on a championship team. Derek White, do your thing.
If you had to go ball to knock shots down,
God bless you and God bless America. But I just
think that there was a level of underestimation that's happened
with many of us when it comes to the Eastern
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Conference in general, and partly because the Western Conference is
so strong. But Boston showed us winners win, so at
the end of the day, whether you win by ten
or two or twenty, they know how to win basketball games.
And I think that's what makes them a danger. When
we talk about them winning it all, I think, what
if I'm being honest, I partly agree with both of you,
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but the other part of me is that for the
way that this Boston team is constructed and the experience
that they have, winning by one or two is not
good enough. You are a team that should be dominantd
This Heat team should not have dominated you, and this
Heat team, the Miami Heat, should not have gotten a
game on you, and they did. The Cavaliers with an
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injured Donovan Mitchell should not have taken you to Game
seven and they did. This Pacers team was literally within
one majority of this entire series, with the exception of
a game and took you to overtime in Game one.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Y'all have not dominated at all this entire.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Post is and so for me, your experience, because you've
been here before, because y'all been doing it for a while,
is what helped you get by. But I am wanting
to see this dominant number one. See, I want to
see that Celtics team. Now, granted you're right with Porzingis
coming back, because they need to.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Have Porzingis and we're assuming that he's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Coming back because remember I think I told you guys
on a previous show that they would have used them
if they needed them, but they didn't need him, and
they were hoping to not need him, and the idea
is to bring him back for the finals. They need
him in the finals because despite with anybody whoever comes
out of the West, whatever team it is that's in
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the West, both of those teams are more battle tested
than the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Tarika in Dexter, let me ask you this, do you
guys think because I had the same expectations as youtu
Rika and I've said it on this show, the Celtics
need to stop tiptoeing and tap dancing with all these teams.
But do you think we've mismanaged our expectations of this team?
I know that they had an incredible obviously run in
the regular season. Number one seed is nothing to sneeze at,
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But do you think our expectation of them being the.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Absolute like they're the team?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you think we've mismanaged that just overall in the
basketball space? Are they really as good as we're projecting
them to be or is this the team that's really
good but not necessarily undisputedly the team that should win
the championship. I think that's two different different types of
expectations different I think dexter I would say the same
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thing that I think that those are two very different scenarios.
The problem that I run into is that even when
this isn't the expectation, this is still the same results
Because I'm at the same this Celtics team looks exactly
like how this Celtics team looked in the postseason last year.
Although the regular season expectations were very different, the results.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That we're seeing is still the same. Yeah, y'all are winning.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Y'all are winning, but the dominating performances, the Jason Tatum
not showing up in the moments that he needs to.
This is starting to become pattern, right, And so at
some point y'all got to look at y'allselves and say, hey,
what is it that we're not capitalizing on that keeps
putting us in this position where we should be dominating
teams and we're not. And that's not to say the
other teams are just scrubs and we're supposed to walk
(13:52):
all over them, but this is a historic run that
everybody is talking about the Celtics are being on, but
this really didn't look like a historic plus season perform
y'all won.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's great, you know what I'm saying, But I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
It, does it?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You know?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
It's funny the numbers say that it's historic in the
winning right, the twelve and two. Their net rating looks
really good, But it doesn't feel dominant.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think that's what he is.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
That's what he is talking about, right, Like, it doesn't
feel dominant. And I understand that. I think the question
that you're kind of asking around to a little bit
CHERI is does that matter, right, Like does it matter
if it feels dominant? But I think here's why the
feeling And to Tea, you tell me if I'm right
on this, because I'm kind of projecting a little bit
of what you're saying here too. The reason people feel
(14:40):
this way about the Celtics, A lot of it is
what happened last year. You guys get down to Miami
in the Conference finals three nothing right, and it was
very disappointing against a team that most people thought that
Celtics team was better than.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
We're not going to go back to two years.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Ago when they lost in the finals to the Warriors
because Steph Curry had an all time game in Game four.
That know what happened, right? That Celtics team is young
Jason Tamas twenty four. I think people have been looking
and waiting for him to grow up. That's what I
hear with t when she's saying that. Now, Chari, I
think you and I made a point that it's like, look,
it's about getting these wins. Don't matter if you win
by ten, don't matter if you win by twenty. It's
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about getting these wins and getting it done. I think
that does matter for the Celtics team. However, here's a
little bit of concern that I think people are gonna
have at least once in a series. We want to
see you turn that switch on, yeah and blow some
oft somebody. Now, Tarika mention that Cleveland series. I thought
Trika brought up a really good point that Cleveland series,
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No Donovan Mitchell, it still ends up going to six, right,
But there were these games where it was like three
points with five minutes ago, and then it became fifteen
and it looked like, oh Celtics won, Right. But I
think a lot of people sat back and was like, man,
I ain't impressed with any of that. I'm not impressed
with how they looking at This is the thing I'm
talking about, if that's been your energy throughout these playoffs.
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And I do think Scherie makes a good point. We
might have underestimated some of these teams in the East,
like the Pacers, who have a lot of depth, and
I think that does matter. The Celtics weakness is their bench.
They don't have a lot of depth, right, That's something
we should be talking about whether they play whoever comes
out of the West. Can they keep up that requisite energy.
Ladies in the finals. If somebody gets in foul trouble,
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what happens if KP gets in foul trouble? Do you
trust them against the bigs of Dallas or Minnesota? Is
the bench gonna be a factor?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Then?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I think that's something people aren't talking about with the Celtics.
Their bench, their lack of a bench is what keeps
them in a lot of these games from blowing teams
out their benches. Ain't that good? And that's something I
think we got to watch. But what we like to
see them more dominant. Yeah, but you know what, it
helped them be more dominant. Maybe if they had a
little bit more depth, they might be a little more dominant.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, that's actually not a bad point.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm not disagreeing with that point whatsoever, because I think
that who is sitting on your bench is so important
for any team, especially when the person missing from your bench.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
As the head coach. Cleveland Cavaliers are now without a coach.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And from what my sources, which are really not my sources,
it's just me reading. I was about to say, you
Stephen a Smith, God's sister, because they about somebody that
has sourced somebody he texts or talked to.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Sorry that was so pretty.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Was just reading Bryan Winworth article, that's all.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But it just it just appears that this was a
move that was not unexpected by some in the organization,
and also that it was a ploy to try to
make coming back to Cleveland a bit more attractive to
Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But all in all, you know, Sharie, overall thoughts on
Cleveland making this.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Move, Yo, I was super shocked. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And I know, from a regular season standpoint, you know,
the Cavaliers fair just shy of what they did this
season before. But when we look at the fact that
they advanced to the second round versus what didn't happen
the season before, it's kind of like the skills were
pretty balanced. And obviously when you look at postseason, to me,
you know, that's a big part of what will keep
a coach in place is if they're able to elevate
that every season. And so I was really shocked by
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the move. And then to your point as well, Tarika,
about your sewers the article that you read, I had
to kind of check myself and say, you know, I
don't know what's going going on internally with this organization,
and I don't know who possibly pissed off Whop. So
that also is the thing that kind of moves the
needle when we see head coaches, you know, to switch out.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
We saw it with the Bucks. I won't even go
into that. Y'all know how I feel about Doc River.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Say Doc, but I think it's fair to say that.
You know, if you're trying to keep a player like
Donovan Mitchell happy and keep them in a Calves uniform
and rightfully so, you do need to make moves like that.
I think it's very difficult for teams when you're switching
out coaches in this way, to come back with the
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same level of success oftentimes that they had the season before.
Actually when they're coming off a strong year. But you
get Donovan Mitchell back, you have the core. He's the
leader of this team. So it's interesting. But you know,
I'm a little disappointed. I just I like when people
do well. I don't like when people do well and
they have to go and get another job. It's just
the personal part of it I don't do well with.
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But business is business, and we'll see. And again we
saw with Lebron you bring somebody in to make a
player happy, and it doesn't always work out in the
way that you think. We saw it with Milwaukee despite
Giannis's injury. So I think people, I think it's playing
with fire and if the Calves are willing to.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Play like a match, do your thing. I wish you
all the best.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think the Calves as a team have a lot
of potential to go far, but it's a risk.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Nonetheless, sometimes I just want to say, what are we doing?
I look at these organizations. I'm like, you got to
look at yourself. You are the Cleveland Calf without Lebron James.
Let's be very clear about what that era has been.
Jami Beitcherstaff won ninety nine games in the last two seasons.
Right this past season, he had Donovan Mitchell out for
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a period, Darius Garland was out, Jared Allen was out.
The team was never really whole. We saw what happened
the year before where they got punked by the Knicks
in the first round. Jary Bickerstaff is a good coach.
My question around all this stuff all the time is
who are you bringing in that's better? That's the real question.
You had some continuity. This is the best you've been
since Lebron left you guys again, who are you bringing
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in that's better. I'm not sure you're going to bring
in anybody that's going to help Donovan Mitchell stay in Cleveland.
I'm not really sure about that because it's Cleveland. That's
why I'm not sure any of that is going to happen.
So what are we What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Were you being patty right there? Because I want to laugh,
but I don't want to be rude. Jarka's face turned.
I just want to make sure.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
That can last.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Just want to make laugh and I'm good.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I've been honest.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I've been honest, ladies, not petty honest, I said, I've
just been honest. Cleveland knows who they are, That's all
I'm saying. You got to know who you are. You're
out here acting like you do somebody else that you
could just come out here.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
You can't do this. What are we doing here? What
did JB?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Bickerstaff was doing his job. He was coaching and coaching
pretty well right despite all the circumstances. And now we're
moving on. I just want to see who they get
this better, because I think Shari brings up great points.
You look at Milwaukee and what happened. Always looking where
the grass is greener or making a change for chain's
sake doesn't always work out, guys, And you know what
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can still happen, ladies, Donovan Mitchell can still leave. Oh yeah,
why because I'm gonna be petty here. I'll just embrace
what Tarika said because it's Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's why. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Period, And that's I'm glad you got to the point
that I was going to eventually go circle back to
y'all doing all of this, and Donovan Mitch, you could still.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Be like you know what, be like my be like
my man magic. Just all right, everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So we have a new game that we are debuting
to discuss all of the headlines around the w NBA,
proper reaction or overreaction. There has been so much action
in the w NBA over the last two weeks that
I am I find myself saying this almost every single week, like,
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oh my god, something amazing has happened, because something amazing
has happened almost every week in the w n B
A and it was so much.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
For us to get into that I felt the best
way for us to get to all of it just
to play a little game.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Come on, games, good idea here.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
For the games.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So this game is of a reaction or proper reaction.
I'm going to throw out some statements and I want
you and Dexter to let me know whether or not
the statement is an overreaction or if it makes sense,
if it's a proper reaction.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
First things first, and because you know we have a
special guest who represents the New York market, We're going
to start with the New York Liberty. So New York
Liberty in the offseason didn't do enough to keep up
with the rest of the league this year, and this
start shows it. Dexter, is that an overreaction or a
proper reaction?
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I think it is an overreaction. I know the Liberty
have dropped their last two games. They didn't look good
against the Sky, didn't look good against the Links. But
here's the issues for the Liberty in those games. Turnovers
and they're play inside right, JJ got in foul trouble
in both of these games. They've got beasted on the boards,
and they've just been sloppy with the ball. I think
The Liberty will work it out that back home for
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a three game homestand I wouldn't overreact.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You know this Tea.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
There wasn't that much the Liberty could do this offseason
with their cap situation, so I think they will be fine.
I'm not worried about all this, but you know, it's
early in the season. People gotta overreact.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I understand it all, but nah, I'm gonna pump the breaks.
The Liberty is gonna be fine. They didn't look I'm
not saying they look good in those two games, ladies,
because they did not look good. They gotta clean some
things up. But I think they will clean those things
up and they'll be fine. So I'm gonna say, overreaction,
let's pump the breaks on this one.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Sure, Okay, I'm gonna agree with Dexter, but I will
say this. I'm tired of Dexter. You just said it now,
so I'm gonna throw you in this. Dexter and Tarrika,
I'm tired of the Liberty, specifically.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Hearing they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
They just lost through lost and loss, but they're gonna
be fine. Like y'all got about another week or two
to say that, and then it's gonna be a proper reaction.
But in this instance, I'll give you an overreaction. I
do think that the Liberty have the tools to do
very well. I don't know if it's a jail situation
with them right now, but also understanding that there are
a lot of other teams that are getting better and
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that are playing better, and so I think it's a
matter of them just stepping their game up. And like
Dex mentioned, taking care of the basketball is key. But
they got superstars on that team, Like, let's not act
like we don't know who's on that roster.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
So right now, as of this.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Week, it is an overreaction. Two weeks from now, if
they still losing, it is the proper reaction.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm going to agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I certainly think it is an overreaction right now. And
from personal experience, I was one who was very loud
last season about how this team did not have that
it and I still feel like this team doesn't have
Like there is something about this Liberty team that I
can't put my finger on that it just doesn't have
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that it thing. And it is a bunch of great
individual players, but for some reason, this is the second
year in a row where it has been a struggle for.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Them to find that continuity as a team.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And the argument that I made last season, which is
the argument I'm going to continue to make this season,
is that when you play in the New York market,
yes there are forty games, but you do not have
the time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You're thinking.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yorkers don't want to wait gracefully for you to figure
it out. They want you to win and win now,
especially when they know that you have the key pieces
to really win a championship, to really be a contender.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They they're not They're not patient. New Yorkers are not patient.
Have you ever driven in New York?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
They are not.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
There's no there is no room for waiting to figure
it out. You got to figure it out, and you
got to figure it out soon. And although there was
a bit of grace that was given last season, I
don't know if you'll get that grace this season, given
that you're essentially bringing back the second corps and that
and and I think the only consistent piece that I
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see is benign Jelaney Hamilton. She is consistent day and
day out offensively on the defensive end. She's one that
will certainly make your life a living hell if she
has to guard you.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So hopefully they will get it together.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Let me ask you this t because I thought Shari
brought up a really great point to that that if
they don't get it together soon, right, this is a
situation where it could be getting late early. As I
like to say, sometimes right, it's be getting late early.
Let's say they go one and two on this home stand.
Let's say let's just say throwing that out there, are
we officially concerned? Are we now in the overreaction.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Reaction territory at.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Proper reaction territory, Sorry, proper reaction, proper folks, proper reaction. Yeah,
I think so, And I think I think you made
some good points. Consistency. Benijelani has been their best player
this season, hands down. They got to get it together.
I think listen, if they've dropped one of these games
and they were five and one, would we would we
even be talking about this? No?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Probably not. But they did.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Drop these two games, and this is where Sharison not
giving them a pass. And I think two things can
be true. Yeah, I'm not gonna overreact. But like I said,
it could get late early, real soon, and that Tarika
is gonna be talking that talk and we're all gonna
know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Correct, stop saying and I'm an Indian and start seeing
a New York hater for both They just gonna love
them together this season. Sorry, every year I'm a hater
for someone. We need to discontinue the word hater. But
that is an entirely differ conversation. People, You are socially
inappropriate and certainly overreacting ninety nine point nine percent of
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the time when you use the term hater.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Back to the game, so so crazy, Okay, back to
the game. All right, the Minnesota Links are title contenders.
Overreaction or proper reaction, sure, we will start with you.
I think that's a proper reaction For now. I think
they look pretty darn good. I love what they're doing
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from the outside. I mean they are. They're dangerous for
a lack of a better term. They destroyed the dream
I was in awe just I mean, the game started
tightening all of a sudden. They just ran away with it.
And one of the reasons why is they just shoot
so well from beyond the arc. I think they're playing
with a certain level of confidence that we can certainly
see them down the line, and they can certainly be
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title contenders again very early. But I think we like
to get excited about about things, whether whether a team
is extremely successful or whether they're struggling, so we tend
to overreact and lean into what we're seeing. So I'm
gonna go a head and lean into how well they're
playing right now and say that is actually a proper
reaction for now.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I'm going with cautiously proper reaction, right And I made
up my whole other category there. But here's here's my thing. Look,
you got to be oppressed with them, right look at
their wins beat Seattle twice. They could easily be five
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and oh one point lost to Connecticut right to you.
You saw you saw that. You know, you know all
about that. Right there, This team is balling. The Phisiacalia
has been amazing, and we'll get to her later in
this show. She's been amazing right here, So they look
like a title caner. They look like they're starting to
geil something we just talked about that we might think
it's not going on with the Liberty. But this team
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looks like they're starting to put it together. We saw
them play well towards the end of last season, so
I think that this team is right there. I don't
know if I want to call them a title contender yet,
but I don't think it's an overreaction to say that
they're playing really well and looking like a title contender.
Look at the talent they've played against. Look at their wins. Then,
as Shari just talked about, they took care of business
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against the Dream, which is something you would want to
see a title contender do Liberty that they didn't do there.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Not to take shots of Liberty again.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
But I'm saying seeming is like, I like this, I
love all that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
She's like, that's get a.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
No.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
But they're looking good. They're looking good. So I know
I made a whole new category. But yeah, I think
it's a cautiously proper reaction. I think so cautious.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm going to remove your cautious because I do agree
that it is a proper reaction. And I think what's
really interesting, or not even so much as interesting, but
just a reaffirmation of what we already knew Cheryl Reeve
is that girl like Cheryl Reeve is simply that girl.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It does not matter what you throw at her.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Because even when we saw a whole new look for
the Minnesota Links with no Sylvia files, we were like, Lord,
have mercy, what's gonna happen with this team?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
What is their new identity going to be? By the
end of the twenty.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Twenty three season, we were like, dang, this Minnesota team
is nasty. And they ended up making the postseason, right,
So I think my surprise or impression of this team
was not that they would be good, but that they
would be good this early ye this soul like already
five games in and y'all were a point away from
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being undefeated. Nafisa Collier always an MVP candidate over the
last few years. Kayla McBride, the stroke is stroking, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It is like she is such a shooter.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And I don't know what she saw in the Tishahanaman
and Courtney Williams, but whatever it was, it works like
it works with that team.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And so I just think that Cheryl Reeve just my.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
God, she is she is who she is, and she
makes it work and it is working with them. But
shout out to Diamond Miller though she is going to
be out for an indefinite time with a knee injury.
And what's crazy is I was covering that game and
I saw her leave the bench with about a minute
and thirty seconds left in the second quarter, and I
saw her going to bag. But I was thinking, like, oh, okay,
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no big deal, it's about the behalftime. Whatever it is,
She'll be out after the half. And by the time
we got to the end of the half, I got
the message that she was going to be not returning
for the rest of the game, and I'm like, wow.
So there's a bit of sadness there, because you know
how it is as a sophomore.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You want to come back, you want to ball out,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
There are a lot of expectations when you're the number
two overall pick, and so to have an injury kind
of put a damper on this season for her this
early is so unfortunate to see.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But we're gonna keep her lifted. She's gonna be all right.
You know what, else, We're gonna keep lifted in prayer the.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Las Vegas aces because they have waved rookie that dia
Jahfair Now we all have some love for Diijah Fair. However,
with her being waived, was this a good move or
a bad move for the Aces? A lot of people
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are saying that it's a bad move. Do y'all think
that is an overreaction or a proper reaction.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I'm not gonna overreact. I'm not gonna call this an
overreaction to this in terms of their waving her. Look,
this team has consistently made good roster decisions.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
We've seen that. We've seen that time and time again.
So I'm going to trust that front office.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I'm gonna trust that coaching staff and say that, hey,
if they didn't think she could help the team, if
they don't, you could help the team.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Excuse me, She'll be there if they can't. If she couldn't,
then she would not be there.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
So I'm going to say that people saying that it's
a bad move overreaction. Trust the Aces on this disappointing
God love for wanted to see on that roster, but
you gotta trust. You gotta trust this team and what
they've built and what they've done. So I'm going to
say overreaction.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I want to say proper reaction just because of my disappointment.
We have seen so many talented players get waived and
you know, have to ball out overseas and try it
again the next year.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And de Henny is one of them who I've just
been pulling. I've been pulling for her for the last
couple of years and she just can't land somewhere.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But super talented and it also just speaks to the
fact there's not enough teams, there's not enough roster spots.
So I think it's a proper reaction because the frustration
behind seeing these really incredible players just not be able
to be where they deserve to be simply because there's
not enough space for them. For me, I think it's
more disappointing that she made it through you know, preseason cuts.
We assume that she would be there a few games in.
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Now she's being waved, so I think that again kind
of adds to my frustration. It's just so much talent
out here, guys, that it really is disheartening to see.
I think, you know, if given a chance, she could
add an element. But to your point, Dexter, the Aces
are a.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Very strong team.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
As we know, they're defending champs, and they're defending champs
for a reason, and so I think we can trust that.
But I just feel like Daijah Fair has been getting
the short end of the stick in terms of being
recognized for how great she is for quite some time,
even when she was with Syracuston. For me, that is
the disappointment that she's moved on to the next level
and assumingly in a position where she can finally get
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that opportunity to really be spotlighted for the greatness that
she possesses, and now again she's in a situation where
she's being dismissed.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Now it's business. I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I do hope she lands somewhere else, but from just
a fan frustration standpoint, I think it is a proper reaction,
and I do wish her well. I think it's an
overreaction only because if this move, which I believe it is,
I don't know, but I believe this move was simply
because Chelsea Gray may be ready to come back and
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they just didn't have spots on the roster. And I
don't think it at all has anything to do with
her talent or ability to be successful in the w
n b A. So if that is the case, then
I can't say it's a bad move because that's Chelsea
Gray to be on that rock, right, So it's an
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under it's a it's a it's a definitely a disappointing move,
but I'm not sure that I could say a bad one,
which is the only reason why I would say that
reaction would be overrated. Now, a couple questions for me.
Number one, does she still get to keep one hundred thousand?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
That was the question.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Dude, still get to keep her coin?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Technically, y'all need to give her that Trey'.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Coin Gray because she earned She earned it for a
few weeks she was there. That's number one or two.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I think it's important to add that we definitely just
were alerted officially, even though we already knew, but officially.
Last week it was announced that there is a new
team that will be expanded in the city of Toronto
in Canada.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So when you add the Toronto.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Team plus the Golden State team that's coming next season,
that's a good twenty four additional spots that somebody has
an opportunity to grab.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
So what you do is just work your way through
this season.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
If I'm Asia girl, people get injured, the people like
it's an Olympic year. There are opportunities for you to
find a spot for a piece of hero or a
piece of there to gone in on your craft. And
next year when that additional team then is official and
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we're starting to do this expansion draft and we're looking
for pieces. Positioning yourself to be someone that a team
can't miss, be someone that a team has to have.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Like, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I'm not looking at this as I can't believe I
got you know, and I'm not saying she is.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm just thinking.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
My mindset is there are two new teams coming to
the w there are opportunities for me to continue to
hone in on my skill set. Let me do that
so that when those other positions open up, I make
it difficult for them to say we don't want her
as a permanent roster spot.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's that's how I would approach it.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I think we all would agree, right, we be stunned
based on what you just said to you there, stunned
if she's not in the league next year with the
Valkyries coming in right like, it will be stunning. Granted,
there's gonna be a lot of good new talent coming
into the league, but we know she could hoop, and
I think you're right to her agent's got to be
telling her that stay ready.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
You made it.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
The other great point. You may forget about next year.
Injuries can happen this year and somebody is going to
need your services. You can't tell me she can't help
another team off the bench, Like I find that crazy
to think. We think now she could, right, but all
it takes something to open up somewhere, some other team
that can use their services, and I think that's very
likely to happen. So she's just got to stay ready.
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I think that's a fantastic point there. Yeah, got to
stay ready.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I agree, and I just for her in particular. I
just feel like we're gonna look up in a couple
of years and she's gonna have one of those stories
where it's like, Yo, she got cut from the Ace's
her rookie season, and two years in she just kept working,
and she kept working, and now at the she's one
of the premier players in the league.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Like she's just that talented. Now.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I know hype makes a difference, but we've had players
to prove that yes and no, that for that to
be the case or not, she's just that talented. I'm
excited for her future, even though this is, you know,
a disappointment, and it may I'm sure it's a disappointment
for her and her team, but to both of you
all's point, there's a lot of promise with her because
of what's happening with the league. So I just think
we're going to look towards her career in a couple
(39:51):
of years and she's going to be one of those
like miracle stories.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
For the w So I'm excited about her future.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Action.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
All I'm trying to say is Becky Hammond went undrafted
and ill. Oh yeah, So I mean, you know, everybody
has a story and if then you see the kind
of career in person that she is, so it ain't over.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It ain't over until it's over. All right, keeping it
moving here.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Alyssa Thomas should be suspended for her aggressive play on
Angel Reese.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Overreaction or proper reaction.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I jump, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
This is my thing.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I think it is somewhat of an overreaction. I would
say finer, but they don't have what she gonna pay
y'all two dollars, so you can't you can't find her
because that was my thing. Though, if you can find her,
just go ahead and do your thing. You know, what
she did wasn't cool, but I got to say I
(41:06):
like the chippiness of it, I think. And mind you,
we've been talking about this and I'm not saying that people.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying this that the bad.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Boys of Detroit shout out to the bad Boys, but
they reinvigorated the league and recalibrated the league at that time.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
And I know Terriga's loving my good talking.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I'm doing this on purpose because I need somebody to
be on my side.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I do think it's a bit of an overreaction.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I do think it's a bit of an overreaction simply
because things like this happen. It gets chippy. What I
didn't like and what I understand why I understand why
people are also saying she should be suspended.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I didn't like her response to her own behavior.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Walking off like yeah, like there was another way that
she could have responded. We saw, for instance, I'll give
you this, Let's go NBA for just a moment. Jalen
Brown's foul his not flagrant full that many people thought
it was a flaker filing the Game four of.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
The Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
His response to that play, he immediately rushed over and
then he told the ref I was going for the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
To me, I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
So that's a different response than Alyssa saying, Wow, I'm
going over to the other side. Y'all girl, get up
when you feel like it. I'm you know you in
my league now. So I think the chippinness of it
is good for the league. Not to say the league
hasn't been chippy all this time, because as we know,
it has been. I think it's a slight overreaction. I
really wish you could just find her, find the fifty dollars,
(42:33):
and have a paid the fifty dollars and everybody move forward.
But suspending, yeah, I think you gotta throw a good
punch or a good kick, karate chop kick.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Or something to be suspended.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But I do think if her behavior in any way
channels this moving further, then I do think you need
to look into a suspension because you don't want players
continue to get away with things like this, and this
is becoming an habitual way that they move. So beyond
this point, if she's weird again. That's when I would
say proper reaction.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Suspension.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yeah, for me, this was an absolute overreaction. You know,
I kind of got that out there a little bit
early before. But I think I agree with a lot
of what Charie said here, right, And I think intent
history matters. This isn't Draymond Green because we all know
he'd be wild.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
They all know that, right, We know that about him.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Now what I do think matters here a little bit, guys,
is this was building up. If you watched a couple
of possessions before they were tussling, she was giving it
to Angel Reeve at that at one point she got
the rebound At did and cleared out with the elbow there.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Right. We saw this.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
At was clearly trying to send a message. Here's the
thing I'm with Chari on this. I love it. I
love it. I love it.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I love it. And you know why we all do. Charie.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I know you grew up rooting for the Bulls, Tarika,
you grew up rooting for the Pistas. We know what
time it is, the way those teams used to play
back in the day, right, we know what time this is.
So I like that and Here's the thing. I think
Angel Reese wasn't tripping about any of this.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
I love.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
She wasn't tripping about the actually know each other. They're
from the same area to the ground. Okay, the game,
We're gonna go to dinner.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Yeah, they understand. She understood what it was. She's like,
At is trying to send me a message. Let me know, girl,
down low, You're gonna have to bang. It's gonna be
tough in here. There's no problems with that.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Did at goal a little bit over the top? Absolutely?
She had the arm on her neck. You can't have that.
I'm with Churi. If you could find her, find her,
keep it moving. Should At have been a little bit
more contrite in her actions, Yes, she kind of. She
kind of walked up like.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Like, imagine, can you imagine Bill limb Beard knocking a hell?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You all right? I didn't mean it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
No, bro, you ain't on my team. Your teammates gonna
help you in.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
And I absolutely love it. It is one hundred percent
and overreaction. There's no way she should be suspended. I
distinctly recall a play last year in the postseason when
JJ and Asia Wilson got into it. And if people
over here calling for JJ head talking about that was
a dirty play, you're a dirty player.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
JJ is the furthest.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Thing from a freaking Toria, how did they say it?
Speaker 4 (45:30):
I would.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
She she's always man dirty.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
You even know what you're saying? So ridiculous. It's not
a dirty player, and neither is At.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
And I would have looked at At like she was crazy,
and she'd have turned around and been like, Angel Race,
are you okay?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm gonna see at later?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Because because I cover their games and I will absolutely
be like Alysta, that's what we do.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
She would have been ashamed, probably gonna and say I
just talked to Angel.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
I just talked to Angel yesterday and we both laughed
about it.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
And on top of that, Angel ain't no saints her
lesship down there banging too? It was it aggressive, extra physical, necessary?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Absolutely not? Was it warranted of a flagrant too?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Absolutely suspending her if y'all going somewhere on with this
boot and it didn't matter because guess what, Connecticut still won.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Moving well, then, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Well, that's upsetting, but it is what it is?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Still all right, guys coming up after this. We have
a really special jump ball segment this week because we
lost a basketball giant and Bill Walton, so our co
host Sharie Dexter, they're going to share their thoughts right
after this. What's going on three on three Pod Family
(46:57):
back again. It's she Grol, Serena Coleterrika Foster, Brasbe and
our special guests Dexter, Henry and I know we've shared
a lot of laughs over the course of this show,
but we do want to move into a more serious
topic where we can just pay homage to the life
and legacy of the late great Bill Walton. We lost
him a couple of days ago. He had a battle
with cancer. Interestingly enough, I didn't even know he was sick.
I don't know if you guys knew, but died at
(47:18):
the age of seventy one. In such a staple when
you think about not only professional basketball NBA, but also
collegiate basketball, and then obviously how he seamlessly transitioned into
being one of the best color commentators that the game
has ever seen.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Just a big personality all around.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
In a big loss, you know, in the basketball family,
So we wanted to take some time just to talk
about you know all he's meant to the game of
basketball and much more.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
And so I'll go to you first, Dexter.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I'll go to you first, and just your initial thoughts
when you heard about Bill's passing, and also just the
impression that he left on you as well.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yeah, I was stunned because I did not know he
was sick either, not that we had to know, not
saying that we did have to know, but I was stunned,
and immediately it hit me. You know, this is somebody
who was a favorite color commentary commentator of mine, is
somebody who loves basketball, loves the NBA. And I think
the thing when I think of Bill Walton, the thing
that I loved about him. I know some people will
(48:11):
say it's the crazy stuff that he said that anything
was the greatest thing in Western civilization, and I love
that phrase from him all the time. But I think
it was just that I loved it. He just didn't give.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
A damn for the most part in terms of.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
The way he did his color commentary was like, look,
I'm just gonna enjoy this.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
I'm gonna be me.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
And I think that's a lesson for everybody out in
sports broadcasting is just be you. There's no other option
than to just be you. And I think, you know,
I never got to meet him, but I know other
people who have, and I think the thing you saw
with him was just the passion he had for life,
not just basketball, but life, right, And that matters so
much because it's such a short time we have on
this earth and we're blessed to do what we're able to,
(48:50):
you know, love, And this is why we're able to
talk on this podcast and have fun and enjoy it
and be ourselves. I think it's because we've seen people
like Bill Walton do it at that at that level,
and that that matters so much. So to me, just
so inspiring. One of my favorites will be sorely missed.
And what he brought to the game. He's just somebody
unique to the sport of basketball and what he brought. Now,
(49:13):
it's not even talking about what he did on the court.
We didn't even talk about what he did at UCLA
as a champion, also winning with the Blazers, winning with
the Celtics. We didn't even talk about that. You know,
it's almost I think about it more, but his contribution
since the sports broadcaster sometimes at least for somebody in
my error. Then you know what he did as a
basketball player. So I just want to say salute to
the legendary Bill Walton. I'm glad that we took time
(49:35):
out to talk about him here today, and he's a legend.
He'll be missed, but his impact on the game never
will be forgotten for sure.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
I don't really have much to add after that, Dexter,
because you pretty much nailed it. As someone that's in
media and broadcasting, it was a pleasure to always hear
Bill Watson on a call, just his energy and his
personality that he brings.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
He was very relatable.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I think Bill Walt maybe the only person I know
who could get love as a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
In LA and Boston.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I don't think that's ever happened anywhere and probably won't
ever happen again, even though it was the Clippers. Regardless
of what he was just a person from what I
could see. You know, we were at ESPN around the
same time, but I never got an opportunity to meet
him or talk to him, so I only had the
stories of what other people said about him, and I
(50:25):
didn't really hear anyone say anything negative about working with
him being in his presence, and that's been felt over
the last few days just listening to what so many
other greats in the game have had to say about him.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I did get an.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Opportunity to meet his son, Luke, though, and Luke was
really funny. So with all of that being said, I
send all of my thoughts in love to his family,
to those who knew him loved him, Extreme peace and
comfort to all of them during this time. It's not
going to be easy, but I hope they know and
feel that they are loved by so many other people
(50:59):
who loved to be and so so yeah, much much respect. Yeah,
I'll just add to that really briefly. One of the
things that you guys both mentioned was just Bill zeal
for life. And I was looking at Game four of
the Eastern Conference Finals and they were listing some of
his achievements and one of the bullet points was he
attended like over a thousand Grateful Dead concerts, which I
thought was a very interesting thing to put in there,
(51:21):
but it just spoke about again, he lived life. And
so you know, as people around the world more in
this loss, there is a level of happiness around the
fact that we're talking about somebody that lived life to
the absolute fullest. I was watching it up mornings and
just hearing the stories that Jay Williams talked about in Greeney,
and again, a lot of it wasn't about.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
What he accomplished on the hardwood.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
A lot of it was about the impression that he
made on these men and how he took time out
to spend time with them and talk to them and
inquire about how their families were doing. And I think,
you know, when people leave here, that's what we should
be talking about. You know, achievements and success. It's a
great thing thing we all aim to have. But at
the same time, what do you mean to others? And
(52:04):
I think there was a level of servitude that seeps
in the entirety of Bill Walton's legacy that I'm grateful
that we get to talk about on this show. So
I echo both your sentiments. And as to Rica said,
you know, Mike co dolences go out to his family's
friends and his fans. Big loss, big loss, big big loss.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well, it is the it's the end of the it's
the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And I'm actually gonna cry.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Don't cry to Rica, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
My feelings are hurt because I don't know when we're
gonna see Dexter again. Oh yeah, maybe we don't want
Maybe we just last the tires of the moving truck
that Chris is using, and he'll he'll have to push
the move back and do more moving into next into
next week.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
You know where that that I appreciated that that you
felt this sadness because it lets me know that despite
all the petty energy that you believe that I've.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Oh, I believe you've done it. I'm an alignment. You
are extremely petty. Did it it was?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
You did not make this up, but you.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
Appreciate it, so that I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Thank you absolutely.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
And you know what, if you guys out there appreciate
all the petty that we continue to give on the show,
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Don't give me no lip, no talk back, just go
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