NBA All-Star Weekend Breakdown, Caitlin Clark's GOAT Status, and Brooklyn Nets Crisis

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hey, everybody, what up? It's your girl, Treka Fusster Brasby,
and welcome into today's episode of the three on three podcast.
Ye know, we appreciate everybody who continues to rock out
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(00:28):
catch up on all the episodes you missed. So I'm
happy today to be joined by my boy and co
host Chris Williamson. What's going on? Chris?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, as you say, Tarika, what up? No, you know
what I'm saying clearly.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know I need to upgrade my fashion since because
you you you killing them with the WNBA bucket hat
and the WNBA hoodie.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So yeah, everybody, try to be like you.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Listen, you already know how I rep. You know how
I get down. All season long, I'm gonna keep the
W on your brain. Speaking of W on the brain,
because I know this guy right here follows the WNBA
as well as All ball. It's our guy, Dexter Henry
representing the S and Y Network. What's going on Dexter.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
What's up, T I'm good. What's up Chris? I'm good, Tea.
I feel like I didn't bring it to Chris and I.
We got the black on Chris does have a little
bit of orange A. You got the orange going. We didn't.
We didn't match that bright energy?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Should you did?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
You got the orange and the background on the ball.
I could see it's right, yeah, Joe, Okay, okay, I
like see T you. I appreciate it. It's all encompassing.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Really it really is. It really is, it really is.
So let's get into it, guys, because there's a lot
to catch up from this weekend, and of course the
biggest thing was NBA All Star. But before we get
into that, we got to show some love to our girl,
Britney Grinder. She's been through a lot over the last
two years, right, and so for her to be able
to come back, get back into the season, get back
into shape, get back in the form. Now this year,

(01:52):
in twenty twenty four, she's kicking off the year getting
her jersey retired at Baylor. So congrats to you, Brittany.
Number forty two is now hanging in the rafters in Waco.
She led that team to a forty and oh season.
They won a championship to cap that season off in
twenty twelve. It's really good to finally see her getting

(02:13):
the honor that she deserved. What did you guys think
about Brittany getting this recognition at Baylor this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it's wonderful to see her getting that praise and
that love, you know, from the university because she didn't
get it from you know, from the previous coaching regime.
But kim Oki Nikki Colleen has done a great job
of making her feel embraced. And I think the one takeaway,
the biggest takeaway I had from that was when they
asked her, yeah, what does this mean to you?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And she said, I feel seen right. That stuck with
me because we.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
All know the dynamic between her, Kimochi and the Bailee
University at the time with her sexuality and how she
did not feel, you know, comfortable being herself and was
told essentially to you know, keep that on the down low,
so for her to have this moment and to show
the emotion that we usually don't see where she's tearing
up and then she's dunking, you know, after the half

(03:06):
quarter halftime done contest. That really brought a big smile
to my face.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, I thought the same, Chris. You know, that comment
about being seen really resonated with me. I thought that
was really powerful. And I saw a couple of weeks
ago at the USA Basketball camp and I just thought,
to myself, she looks like she's in such a good place.
What everything that went on with her being in Russia
and just being back to hoop and to get that honor,
I think from the school for them to show her love,

(03:32):
excuse me, where she hasn't always felt that there in
quite some time. I think that really matters, and it
makes me wonder just you know, with that happening now
she goes into this next w season, how does that
make her even feel more comfortable getting you know, acclimated
back here into the States and just hooping and playing
the game she loves and being around the people that
she loves. You know, it was just a great moment

(03:53):
for her. She's one of the great some women's basketball history.
She definitely deserved that honor of her number going up
there on the rafters and echo. You wish it could
have happened earlier, but you know, everything happens when it's
supposed to win. I'm glad she got her moment, but
not just that. I think what Chris said it is
so pointed because I'm glad she got to say that
it was it was it was a little statement back
to those people that didn't want her to be her

(04:13):
and letting them know that, you know, we're not tolerating that,
we're not tolerating what we're not accepting off anybody and
not letting them be who they are. And so so
happy for Brittany in that moment, just for me, happiness man,
and glad that she got to enjoy the night and
say what she needed to say on her terms.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, Brittany is definitely a gentle giant. I've had the
opportunity to meet and talk to Brittany quite a few
times as well, and her energy and her spirit is
just so beautiful. So I am so excited for her,
happy for her, wish her the best of luck this
upcoming season. It is going to be a very interesting
season in Phoenix. Brand new everything down there, y'all, brand
new ownership, brand new coach, just brand new everything, brand

(04:53):
new players. So it certainly should be an experience, and
we'll get to that come w NBA season, but right now,
we need to kick it about what happened this weekend
in terms of the NBA All Star Game. Now, it
took place this weekend in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
From what I could see.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
All across social media, looked like the stars was out,
which is dope. I think that's the best part of
NBA All Star. Honestly, the most fun for me is to,
you know, go kick it with all the celebs and
go to the parties and.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
All that good stuff. So that's great.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
But from a game perspective, so the East one to
eleven to one eighty six, couple of things. It was,
you know, the All Star went back to its original format,
which was East versus West versus the team captains and
all these additional rules towards the end of the game.
It was traditional, traditional game this year. And also the
East made history. They scored two hundred points, which is

(05:45):
the first time in All Star history that a team
has scored two hundred points in a game. So there
was some history being made there. But there were also
some moments that made us cringe right where we were like,
what what are we doing? What the hell is happening
in Indianapolis. I don't know what's going on. I don't
really like it. I'm turning this off at ten o'clock, right,

(06:05):
So I felt like the best way that we could
possibly break down because there's so much to unpack, it's
just to kind of.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Keep it tight a bit.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
So we're gonna break this down with the good, the bad,
and the ugly. So let's start with the good, which
I believe is absolutely Steph versus Sabrina and the three
point shootout. So Steph Curry ended up winning the challenge
twenty nine to twenty six, and Sabrina went first. So
she already had Steph like tripping a little bit because
she hit them two wrecks coming out the gate, and

(06:34):
I was like, oh, we about to get a Las
Vegas All Star Sabrina up out here. She about to
rack thirty seven up on them or it's gonna be interesting, right,
So she had Steph on his toes a little bit,
but he made a comeback forward in the last rack.
It was certainly to me, the most entertaining part of
All Star and guys, let me give you these numbers
really quick, because total viewership and total audience peaked with

(06:57):
five point four million viewers between ten and ten fifteen
that evening, which was the time that Steph and Sabrina
did their three point challenge. That was the first time
in four years that All Star Saturday Night had drawn
in that many viewers, So it was legit something to behold. Dexter,
let's start with you. What did you like about Sabrina

(07:20):
and Steph doing their three point challenge?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Well, look, first of all, I liked that it was
something new. It's no shock that the numbers that you
just mentioned there, Tarika, you saw that increase in viewership.
I think it was plus fifty four in the leealership
at that time for that night that we haven't seen
before with the MBA All Star Saturday Night. It was
something new and it was exciting. You had Sabrina calling
out Steph, who's one of the great shooters in the world,

(07:44):
Sabrina and nescu Is and Steph, who's obviously the greatest
shooter of all time. On the men's side, this was exciting.
I loved that you can call it a spectacle what
he wanted. Some people may think it's gimmicky. I don't
think so. I like seeing shooter shoot. That's what we
got to see. I love the form out of it.
I loved it. Sabrina came out and set that tone,
and I was oneer or two for Steph. I'm like,
oh man, you're gonna get this done. You know, you

(08:04):
might be sweating a little bit, but he got it done.
And I think this speaks to what I know we're
going to talk about. I know Crystal hit on this.
I know you will. It's okay. We can have fresh
new things at the All Star Game. We can try
new things. Maybe we don't need to have the game anymore.
I'm a proponent of that. It could just be about
the weekend. Tarika just talked about what she enjoys about
the weekend, which is going out, seeing different people, meeting

(08:26):
with our connects. We see each other as journalists, we
see our you know, different people from different brands we
connect with. That's all dope. The All Star weekend is
really about all that. If we and just seeing players
do some fun stuff, that's it. And it's fine. It
doesn't have to always be that serious, you know what.
But we had a little competition. The three point shootout
was nice. The event between Sabrina and Steph was nice.

(08:47):
I think they should do it again for sure. I
definitely want to see it again. I hope we also
see other women involved in shooting competitions and different competitions
around and be All Star weekend. I think this is
great to help grow the women's game and for the
doubters out there, and I know we'll get to this too.
For those of you thinking that women can't shoot, you
were stupid, That's all I got to say to that.
You're dumb on that. If you're thinking you believe in

(09:09):
this in the first place, why are you not. I
think it was important for people to see this, the
ones that doubt out there, I think it was important
for them to see the greatness of a Subernian nescue
on that level right there with the Steph Curry and
so Yeah, it was dope. It's no shock that the
numbers were what they were. Guys. People want to see
new things, they want to see something they haven't seen before,

(09:30):
so I thought it was dope.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
They want to spice it up, you know, some little
razzle dazzle, and I think this was a perfect, you know,
type of pizazz that you needed, right Sabrina sets the
WNBA NBA record right when she did it back in
All Star Weekend in Vegas last year. I think it
was thirty seven and thirty eight and then step are like, oh,
okay to this, how you coming, So let's let's do

(09:55):
something together. And so I thought it was perfect and
the fact that she went first and she was cooking.
And what I really enjoyed is the fact that she said,
now I want to shoot from the NBA three point
line like off jump. It wasn't oh yeah, I'll just
shoot from the WNB. No, I have range that goes
beyond the w three point line and even beyond the

(10:16):
NBA three point line if you ever watched your play
Kenny Smith. But we'll get to that a little bit.
So the fact that she did that and then she
cooked and made Steph Curry sweat like he wasn't cooking.
I mean, he wasn't in the wind until that last rack.
So I love that that drama, that theater that they provided.

(10:37):
Even though they were both nervous, they thrived under the
pressure in this moment, and we've seen them do that
in the respective sports, you know, outside of all the weekends.
So I was I was so happy to see that,
because it is true that's sometimes you do need to
change the recipe or throw in a different ingredient to

(10:58):
bring new viewers and bring more excitement to a weekend
that's pretty stale when you look at the events such
as you know, the Writing Stars Challenge or you know,
the Celebrity All Star Game. I think may have you know,
taken a little bit of a dip, and then of
course the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
So yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Wait to see that for the w NBA's All Star
Weekend in Phoenix. I hope we can get that again
with somebody else from the w or maybe even a
college player coming out.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
But loved it.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, I loved it too, guys. And honestly, you guys,
you know, y'all said everything that needed to be said
about it. I do want to call attention really quickly though,
to There was a post that was on X by
Frankie de la Creta, and they made mentioned that they
felt that the viewership and the numbers benefited the NBA

(11:50):
over the w NBA. And I'm one who thinks that
two things can be true at same time at the
same time, right, I think that absolutely from the numbers
I just read it benefited the NBA viewership one up.
People wanted to see it. But I also know that
how did viewership go up. Viewership didn't go up because
a bunch of additional NBA fans started watching it. Viewership
what up because w NBA fans and people who want

(12:12):
to see w NBA product started watching it. And I
think that just is a further testament to if you
put the product in a position where people can see
it and view it, then people will see it and
view it. So I think it was a win for
both leagues. That's just you know, you know how I
view that. So let's move on to the bad, right,

(12:33):
And so I remember growing up the one thing that
I wanted to see. And even before I get to
this point, let me just mention that there used to
be the Shooting Stars competition where it was two players
from the w A, I mean two players from the
NBA and a player from the w NBA. I remember
when Twing Cash won. I remember when Becky Hammond was

(12:55):
on the team with Tim Duncan and they want they
would they would team up together with whatever the team
is and near respective area. Right, So there was the
Silver Stars, it was the Spurs, it was the Shock,
it was the Piston. So it's not the first time
that we've seen yet to meet the Catchings with the Pacers,
and she was with the Fever, So it's not the
first time that we've seen WNBA participation in the.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know why it stopped, but I definitely think
that we need to continue to bring that back. But
I say all that to say that those were the
kinds of things that as a kid, I used to
look forward to watching. Right, the Dunk Contest was the
thing that I ran to the front of my TV
to watch. Now, take it or leave it. This man

(13:41):
mag McClung, which I stated in the last episode, was
gonna win the Dunk Contest. By the way, this man
can't find a spot on an NBA roster, but he
could win a dunk contest.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
And that's no shade to him.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's just simply saying of all people, right, you guys
are getting G League players to participate in the dunk contest?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Is having the stars?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
The Anthony Edwards the I know that John Morant can't
participate because he's hurt, but like God, like, what are
we doing. Guys, the dunk contest was trash. I knew
it was gonna be trash. I said it was gonna
be trash, and it lived up to every bit of
the trash that I expected.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
There's no more originality.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
People have done every dunk you can think of at
this point, Like, what is anybody gonna do that's gonna
be new and original and make you be like whoa?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
That was crazy?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Like it's just not there anymore. Guys like Chris, do
you think and maybe it's time to just do away
with the dunk contest Like what's happening?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, I mean, we don't.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
We don't need it anymore because it's not that, you know,
every possible dunk has been you know, executed. It's the
fact that one in Jaylen Brown touched on this. A
lot of guys they're scared of their image being tarnished
if they mess up in the dunk contest, So that's
one thing, so they're not going to go all out

(15:01):
and then worried about you know, injuries and all that.
And then the other thing that we have to look
at is how the lack of stars has really impacted
the way this dunk contest has gone, Like, we didn't
realize how good we had it in twenty sixteen when
we had Zach Levine and we had Aaron Gordon, and
then years you know, prior before that with all the

(15:24):
good stars, you know, Vince Carter, you know, Dominique, MJ,
Kobe Bryant, you know. We can go on and on.
But because I guess the prize money is not that
great and there's a fear of being ridiculed, Yeah, we
don't need it because guys are not going to go
all out. I've seen some ridiculous dunks, you know from

(15:46):
non NBA players that could be done, but they're just
not going to take that risk. So I'm cool off
of it, Like I will not miss it. Yeah, I
will miss the old days. I'll rewatch the reruns that
were the best Wars deck.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Even if they wanted to market it like that, they could, Yeah,
go ahead, Dexter.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
No, no, no, I'm with y'all on this. It's time.
Here's the thing. First of all, let's just go a
step further. It is clearly to what Tarika's saying, it's
no longer the marquee event of to Night, So why
do we have it at the end, like it's the
market event of the night. Three point Shootout is the
best event on All Star Saturday Weekend. It was you know,
you guys saw me on X putting out posts. I

(16:23):
was like, this is trash. We can all say it together.
We can say it's not good. I was with Tarika
on this. We can just say it's not good, like
it's fine and it's not. We don't have to hold
on to this thing to try to make it good
when it's not. We can try new things. Like I
said before, we talked about Sabrina and stuph We can
do this, guys. We can make this happen. If it
goes away, I won't miss it. It's fine. It's something

(16:45):
that was really dope, really great at the time, and
then now it isn't for the reasons that Tarika mentioned,
for the reasons that you mentioned, Chris, and I think
that's okay, but trying to do it, and I think
what annoys me is what I'll give Mac mcclunk credit.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And I agree.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I thought he was gonna win two, which says something
we got to out here winning the NBA Dunk Contest,
But the over theatrics of it, like everybody bringing somebody
out and it takes too long, and it's like, then
you don't do anything that's impressive. Nah, man, we don't
care about this anymore. In that way, it's just overly
drawn out for something that just isn't a great event anymore.

(17:19):
And I think it's time for us to just move on.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Just move on, honestly.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
And like, if they want to bring in people to like,
if you want to bring in new faces, new stars,
to give them an opportunity to be seen or things
like that, I get that, right, but like, let's put
it at the beginning, Like, because even the skills competition
I felt was a little bit more entertaining.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
I loved watching.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
But even the way that they should have shaken up
the skills competition over the years has been a bit interesting.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
So they need to just let that go.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Okay, I'd rather see I'd rather see college players just
dunk on each other because at least they have no fear,
Like I don't know what this foolishness is that they're doing.
So there's that we agree there. So last, but not least,
let's talk about the ugly. And it's a lot of
ugly to go around it is a lot of ugly
to go around. First thing that comes to mind is

(18:06):
your boy, Kenny Smith. Kenny Kenny, and I don't not
invite me to the party, No mo Kenny.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
After I say this, because the party do be lit.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
But the commentator, I mean, listen, I ain't gonna let
the party be lit, Kenny. I appreciate the invite, but
the commentating was just it left much to be desired,
Like you should have been arrested. That's where you should
have been, Kenny, because you were making comments throughout the nights. Specifically,
the ones that rubbed me the wrong way were the

(18:36):
ones about Sabrina not having fair competition because she didn't
shoot from she should have shot from the women's three
point line. And I looked at that and I said, Okay, well,
if you're gonna say that, then you should have said
that Steph should have shot with a WNBA ball like
you sound stupid like it just this makes absolutely no sense.
She was not only three points away from actually winning,

(18:57):
but she shot as much, if not more than the
men in the actual three point competition, So what are
we talking about. She would have won. She would have
won the competition. So I'm trying to understand why did
he feel the need to try to belittle her in
that way by making comments about she's a phenomenal shooter.

(19:19):
And that wasn't the only comment, but it was the
one thing that I felt like, this is what continues
to spend this narrative about women in the w about
women when it comes to playing basketball, about women in
sports in general. It's a competition because they're literally shooting
against each other, but it's not a competition if you're

(19:39):
a fan, because you are getting the literally the best
of both worlds.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
We did not need that from Kenny.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
So there's that, and then there is the actual game itself,
because earlier I talked about the two hundred points, but bro,
there was no it was a bunch of layup lines
and let's launch from the logo. And granted, I love
to see good shooting, but at the same time, like,
can you play some defense? Like y'all starting to look
like the Pro Bowl out here, you know what I mean,

(20:08):
Like it's really just not a good game.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Kenny's comments were uglier because I stopped caring about the
actual game, right, Like, I think you make an interesting
point there, Tarika and comparing it to the Pro Bowl.
But so let me just say something real quick on that.
What happened with the Pro Bowl. You know what they did.
They stopped caring about it as a serious game because
it wasn't a serious game. So they started playing flag football.
And you know what, everybody's fine. It still serves the

(20:32):
purpose that it is for the All Star weekend. People
come damn fun, they see the players play a little
flag football and everybody goes home. Maybe that's just what
we need to do with the NBA. Stop expecting it
to be a serious game. It is not a serious game.
It's a glorified exhibition. I personally just don't care. Now.
What I do care about is Kenny Smith's comments. And Kenny,
you can still invite me to the party too, not

(20:52):
saying we're just out here protecting the parties. That's party.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Tarika, I don't know when, like when you heard it
live and Chris you two, but I was kind of like, yo, what,
like what did you think you were trying to accomplish here?
That was the question for me because I didn't know
if he was trying to say that Sabrina needed more
of a crutch in this situation which didn't make sense
to me. Sabrina called out, Steph. What we should be

(21:20):
celebrating and looking at this, like we talked about before
in the last segment, is the fact that Sabrina is
one of the best shooters on the planet. She's got
the range. Chris mentioned that how she has the range.
This is her showing off the range. This is important
and I'm gonna say this very specifically for young men
who say that they like hoops, to see that a
woman is out here with that same kind of range shooting.

(21:43):
For those of us whos hooped, a lot of us
know it's about using your legs and the strength in
that where you're shooting with your legs. Okay, so that
shows a lot of the strength she has there. Instead
of celebrating Sabrina and you're tearing her down. Who I
do want to give credit to in the Ugly is
Reggie Miller, because I think Reggie Miller did a good
job of clapping back. I think off times when these
things happen, a lot of men stay silent and don't
say anything, and I love that Reggie Miller said something,

(22:06):
especially as his sister who's one of the greatest female
basketball players of all time, no doubt about that. He
said something and clapped back at it, and I think
Kenny Smith, not in the moment realizing it, just shut
up and trying to double down. I thought was stupid.
I think, like you said, Tarika, it further adds to
these narratives and stereotypes about women's basketball and women athletes

(22:27):
that are just absolutely despicable, and we have to shut
that down. So all the people that came to Kenny
Smith on social media, props to you, to Reggie Miller
who said something, props to you, But this was uglier
than the game, because I think we can say what
the game is. We can say that the game there's
no defense played, it doesn't matter whatever these things in
terms of the conversation around women and women athletes, is

(22:51):
really important for us to have this conversation like we're
having now and saying, Nah, Kenny Smith, that ain't it.
Bro that ain't it. And I think that's how they
said because it was ugly, that ain't it.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's it's not even the fact that he said it
in the moment. But then you know, he goes on
Steven As Show the other day and he says all
those comments were much ado about nothing. I was actually
advocating for her, and he goes on this monologue about
how like, yeah, it's muscle memory, and in a vacuum,

(23:23):
I think, as Shabon said, Shabon, uh good friend on
X said yeah, that's cool muscle memory. But then you
have to also understand that if you knew anything about
Sabrina's game, her muscle memory is to be shooting those
long ass threes, so you're not advocating for her. And

(23:44):
then the other part was people, most people who understand basketball,
they knew what they knew what I meant. So now
you're trying to and you're trying to integrate us. You're
trying to say, oh, yeah, we're stupid. The people that
are bringing up these claims and have issues with it,
which a bunch of them with WNBA hoopers. So are
they do they not know basketball? I think they would

(24:05):
know a lot more than you, me, Dexter and Tarika.
So yeah, I really hated that he doubled down on
it and didn't see the issue with his comments, and
both of you brought it up like it only confirms
or further, yeah, confirms the stereotypes that a lot of
these people have that are in the box. The comments,
you know, Bleacher Report, ESPN, whin a WNBA post is

(24:28):
made like nobody cares.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
They're not equal.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Kenny saying that, it's like, yeah, see, they don't deserve
you know, you know, Like and then if and then
if she shot from the WNBA line, I wonder what
his comments would have been. It was like, well, of
course she got it because she shot further in. It's
it's a lose lose.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's a lose lose. It's how I feel when people
talk about Lauren Rims bro go away, go away. It's
a lose lose because if they lower the rim, then it'
oh well, of course they count dunk because they dunk
it from a shorter rim. Of course they can.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Like, bro, I'm not don't nobody got time for that?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
No, you know what I see? You know what I
hear in that Tarika. Anytime I hear that, or I
hear that point Chris about moving the line in for
this competition, or she should have shot for the wn line,
it just weeks of insecurity to me by these dudes.
That's what it is. Like, Why are y'all so bothered
that a woman would do something athletically, that's dope. Why
why does that bother you so much? Why does that

(25:27):
make you feel any kind of way? Like I don't
because I don't have no other way to take it,
but that when you make those comments, there's no other
way for me to take it but that, because why
would you care? Why would you not? How could you
look at this competition and see what Sabrina did and
then sit there and be like, yeah, she should have
shot closer.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
She'd have had a better shot if she'd have shot
from the women's line.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Like what what?

Speaker 5 (25:49):
That was my real reaction. My real reaction was like,
wait what he.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Just came out of nowhere? You know, this great event.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
We're so happy, we're coming off this high steph gets
you done?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Shot?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
And Reggie, I know Reggie's looking at him like are
you serious?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are you? Are you good? Bro?

Speaker 4 (26:07):
But Chris, I'm glad you brought up to about him
doubling down because I think that is part of the
problem too, right, Like when you hear these things and
you get called out, yo, man, you could just say
that you were wrong and he chose not to do
that and then try to be like we the people
who are critiquing this and the WNB players, I'm glad
you brought up, Chris. That's a great point. They are like, nah, nah, man,
this ain't it. And you're gonna sit there and be like,

(26:30):
we got this wrong. Come on, son, come on right.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I tell you one thing, though, Chris, I'm gonna tell
you who he I know for a fact he wouldn't
have said that about Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Kaitlyn Clark, Hey, you know what, I would hope not,
but I would hope he would know her game a
little bit more than Sabrina because if he said the
same thing, yeah, I would have shut the TV off.
Kaitlyn Clark y'all, as we all know now, is the

(27:03):
NCAA's all time Division one women's scoring record champ right.
She's got three thousand, five hundred and sixty nine before
their game Thursday against Indiana, and she passed Kelsey Plumb
Kelsey Plum's record last week Thursday against Michigan when she
went for a career high forty nine And not only that,

(27:25):
she scored like the first eight points and the point
the points to do it was a logo three on
the left side, pulling up in transition.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
She should have shot it closer. She should have shot
it closer to Chris.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
That she should have.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, it would have been easier for her, you know. Yes,
she didn't have the strength to do get out of here,
get out. But Yo, this is a woman. This is
a young lady who is transcending the sport and bringing
so much attention to it. And I love that she

(27:57):
lives for the moment. She wants the dramat she wants.
She has the flare right she told people, Yeah, I'm
gonna go for the logo three. That's how I want
to break the record. And she did that. Not everybody
can do that, you know, not everybody has that that cachet.
They don't have that moxie. Were they able to talk
to talk and then back it up as well. So

(28:19):
I'm very proud of what she's accomplished, doing it in
four years and being able to just command so much
respect and adoration, admiration from kids to grown men and
women like people are lining up outside the stadium, outside

(28:39):
the arena to see her for hours. She's one of
the biggest shows, if not the biggest show in college
sports and college basketball specifically. There's nobody else individually who
has more star power than she does on the court. Like, yeah,
I have a lot of respect for her game and

(29:00):
the way she plays. Of course, she's not a finished product,
but she is box office no, no question about it too.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Rica, Yeah, no, I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I think that Caitlyn Clark is certainly someone who has
generated a new a new appreciation of women's basketball from
newer fans.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I have to always give some love to see Vivian
Stringer because she was the coach out in Iowa, and
she too brought a level of attention to Iowa basketball,
and we've seen that resurgence under with Kaitlyn Clark being there.
She is someone who has started to allow, not allowed,
but she's someone in which I believe has started to

(29:43):
try to attempt to close the gender gap when it
comes to the support of women's basketball, because no matter
who you are, you have to respect her game. I
do believe that by the end of this year she'll
have surpassed Pete Marivitch for the all time record. I
believe she's capable of doing it. Like she's I mean,
she's averaging like thirty three points a game, so and

(30:06):
as you can see she can drop forty nine, so
there's still plenty of time left. She still has the
Big Ten Tournament to get through, so there's plenty of
time for her to be able to break that record.
I definitely also got to give some love to my girl,
Lynette Woodard. I had the opportunity to meet her in
twenty nineteen. She actually set the record with a little
with over thirty four hundred points. I believe it was,

(30:28):
but it's because at the time that she was playing,
the NCAA wasn't tracking wasn't tracking women's basketball points and
records the way that they did that they do now.
It didn't start that until nineteen eighty two. So although
she isn't technically in the record books, she's in the
record books. It's black his three month. We gonna make

(30:48):
sure that Lynette Woodard, the first female Globe Trotter, gets
her love. So there's that on that. But I say
all that to say I don't like that there is
so much discourse around Clark because of other factors. Now
there are some things that she absolutely has to own
and that's a conversation for another day. But at the
same time, Caitlin Clark is a stellar athlete. She has

(31:12):
honestly taken what she's been given. She's been put in
a situation where she has taken advantage of the opportunities
to be seen. She is absolutely the reason that Iowa
basketball right now is where it is. She certainly can
carry a team, although I have my questions with Lisa
Bluter about why sometimes she's put in the position to

(31:33):
have to shoot, you know, fifty times a game, not
literally fifty people. I'm being facetious here, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
The fan, they don't come for you, you know.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Come from come for me, come from men, come for you.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Come for me.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
If you want to come for me, if you want to,
I do clap back absolutely so, so mindja business, folks,
but because you get what I'm trying to say. But
I'm saying that I think she's a phenomenal player. But
I also heard some quotes and comments from Jay Williams
on game day who basically said, Hey, I think that

(32:09):
she is a great player, but I can't call her
the greatest, And yeah, I think I'm kind of down
with that as well. When I think of greatest players,
when I think of what it means to be a goat, right,
I think of the overall body of work, So it's
how are you offensively? How are you defensively? What impact

(32:31):
do you make on the team at anyway? How do
teams have to prepare for you? And I think that
Caitlyn Clark is the greatest score that I have ever
seen in college basketball. And I'm almost forty years old.
I've been watching women's college basketball for a long time,
So greatest scorers, best offensive player, Like the woman is

(32:52):
a walking bucket, period and you better respect it. She's
dangerous with the rock in her hand. But I don't
know if I would her the goat or the greatest
overall player, because I'm not sure that she translate her
offensive prowess on the defensive end, and because she has
yet to win a national championship. And when I think
of goats in college basketball, I think of Cheryl Miller.

(33:15):
She played defense, she can shoot, and she got two
of them things up out of USC. I think of
Cheryl Swoops, who also could play defense. Three time Defensive
Player of the Year in the WNBA. She shot at
one point, shot the record for the most points in
a game in a college basketball playoff, and she got
Texas Tech to a championship. So these are people who

(33:36):
I think of when I think of collegiate players, I
think of goats. And I didn't hear anybody calling Kelsey
Plumber goat. And she set that record back in twenty seventeen,
and that record has stood for this entire time. And
I wasn't hearing nobody calling Kelsey plumber goat. Kelsey Mitchell
set the Big ten record that Kaitlyn Clark just made.
And I know that Kelsey Mitchell can shoot that thing.
She another one when she's coming down to court. She's

(33:59):
one of the best pull up shooters I've ever seen.
And she's a sweetheart. Love Kelsey, but I don't want
to hear nobody call her a goat. So I'm trying
to understand why is the goalpost movie on what constitutes
the standard for being considered a goat in this situation.
It's Caitlyn box office. Absolutely. Is she a great score? Absolutely?
But is she the greatest college basketball player in the

(34:19):
women's side that I've ever seen?

Speaker 5 (34:21):
I cannot go that far.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, I don't really Tarika, you killed that. I don't
really have too much to add because you made all
the points that I was going to make too greatest Score.
Absolutely fine with that, and I will go a little
bit of a step further with that, right Like, I
think she is Steph Curry esque to the women's game
in the fact that she will be revolutionary in terms

(34:45):
of spacing and her ability to shoot the ball from
deep Sabrien and Nescue before, who we talked about. She's
kind of taking that a step forward with just how
she's able to pull up off the dribble and the
range that she has as well too. I think that
definitely helps revolutionize the game we have. I think what
people are doing that you're talking about, Tea, is that

(35:05):
every time somebody does something that's really amazing and dope
in one particular area, we gotta have the goat conversation,
and we don't have to. I feel like I'm saying
it's a lot of things on this episode. We don't
always have to do this, guys, but I think we're
doing this. It's like she is an amazing score, great score,
greatest scorer of all time. I love the point you
brought up about the other people that had scoring records
that they didn't talk about that, So I think it's

(35:26):
fair to question why that is. I have my theory
some reasons why that might be that I don't think
is that deep when you just look at the person.
But I think that it's fine, dude, we don't have
to do this and we don't have to shade it.
And for all the reasons that T said there, when
I look at a player too, in any form of basketball,
men's bat side, women's side, you got to be able

(35:46):
to do it on both ends. You gotta also then win.
She has not done that. She's not a good defensive player.
She is not in that ILK of those other ladies
that team mentioned there. And there's other ladies I can
mention too, whether we're talking about and it's Parker, whether
we're talking about mek a whole squad, there's other ladies
I mention it that I'm going to put above her.
Yeah God, yeah, yeah, Chris, there's other women I'm gonna

(36:07):
put in that ILK I'm talking about when we're talking
about goats on the women's side of the game. And
you know, yeah, for those people out there that were
coming at Tea, I saw this and giving the standard
the Cheryl swoops on this like, yeah, naw, she ain't
she can't messed with Cheryl Swoops. We ain't gonna do that. Like, no, no, no, no, no,
that is not that is not the case. And again
that's not a shading Caitlyn Clark. We all here think

(36:29):
that she is dope box office. We want to see her.
She's a great score. I can't wait to see what
she does in the league. I can't wait for that.
I think it's gonna be so great for the game,
but greatest of all time. Now, I'm with Tea on this.
I can't go that. I can't go that far, greatest
score of all time. You can put a stamp on that.
I'm cool with that. That's cool.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Cool with that.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
We can have a conversation about it.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
But no, nah, I'm not. I'm not entertaining that. And
the fact that people are bringing that up, I just
I don't. Well, I know why. Yes, part of it is,
you know, to you know, uplift or annoy you know,
this new great white hope because sports are microcosm of
society and you have this amazing young athlete whose white

(37:14):
plays in the Midwest, and it's transiting the game, you know,
perhaps revolutionizing it for the Women's Game and people like, oh, yeah,
that's the next best thing, right, Yeah, we got to
make her the go. You know, she has to be
on the top of no, because really, you setting her
up to fail. You put all these expectations, you put
all this praise on her that's really not deserved at

(37:36):
this point. What's gonna happen if she struggles in the
WNBA to start? Now, I think she's gonna be a
really good WNBA player when it's all ten does, but
she's likely going to make adjustments, have to make adjustments
so people don't realize they're doing her a disservice because
they're putting a target on her back. Like Natasha Cloud

(37:57):
was telling me that she feels people don't appreciate the
w because they think Kaitlyn is just gonna run wild
and she ain't gonna have no competition, Like she gotta,
she gota come see me, like we saw with Sabrina.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know, she got it and I felt and I.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Felt bad originally for Sabrina too, because Sabrina, first of all,
neither did Kaitlyn. To be fair, these these players didn't
ask for this media attention. They're not out front and
center saying, hey, talk about me. They're playing their game,
and their game is so good that you can't help
but notice it and recognize it. They're letting their game
speak for them, which is what we tell everybody to do.

(38:37):
So I'm not saying that it's their fault, but I
am saying that. I remember when Sabrina first came into
the league, and I felt so bad for her at
first because there were all these expectations of her coming
out of Oregon.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
And then in her first year she got hurt.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
And then then and I believe that was the bubble
year that they played in the bubble and the end
she was hurt and she was injured, and I and
and and then they were going through coaching changes, and
it was just so much going on in New York
at that time that I was just like, she's not
gonna be able to live up to these expectations right
now that they put on her immediately coming in, because

(39:12):
you gotta deal with an injury, you gotta deal with
situational changes within the organization, you gotta deal like there's
way too much going on, and there was the Tina
Charles situation where there was a lot going on and
I'm just like, I feel so bad at this girl
because they thene hyped her up to be everything and
she ain't even gonna really have an opportunity to get
any of that done in this first year or two

(39:33):
because she has so many other things she has to
do now. Luckily for all of us, Sabrina is Sabrina,
you know what I mean? Like she figured it out.
And that's all we're saying about Caitlin Clark is that
you may not come in the WNBA rookie year. Everybody
can't be a kanvas parker. Everybody a matter of fact,
ain't nobody being a canvas parker. You're not coming in
and dominating like everybody. Don't do that. That's rare. Aliah

(39:56):
Boston absolutely earned Rookie of the Year last year. She
amazing as a player, but she had to earn all
of that, Like she will tell you, there is a
difference playing in the w then playing at the collegiate level.
And so all we're saying is give the girl an
opportunity to get adjusted to transition because she's going to

(40:16):
need that. These women are grown ass women. They are
grown ass women with grown ass bodies. Chelsea Gray is
a beast. You're not running through her. That's the reason
why she is who she is. Respect that, you know
what I mean, And that's all everyone's saying. They're gonna
be great, But give them an opportunity to transition and
to learn so that they can live up to the

(40:38):
expectation that we expect them to have as a player
in its totality, not your freshman year or rookie year
or what have you. But yeah, all in all, I'm
proud of her. Congratulations for setting the record. It's really
incredible to see. I don't know who's next up. When
I look at the collegiate level, there are so many
great players you can look at. You know, I'm drawing

(41:02):
a blank. Oh Juju Watkins for sure, But I'm drawing
a blank from little sis at South Carolina.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
She's a freshman Malaysia.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh my god, amazing, Hannah Hidalgo, girl, stop it. Like
this next group of women that will take over the
college game, I feel like we will be just fine.
After Caitlyn Clark goes back. Page Becker's is gonna stay
another year. We didn't get to touch on that, but
she's gonna stay another year. So we get to possibly

(41:33):
see her in aisy foot one more time, attempted one
more time? Like the college game is in good hands, y'all,
Like we.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Straight yep, oh yeah, fat, we ain't wearing what so web.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
You know who ain't in good hands though, y'all them
damn Nets.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Baby, it's anybody who is a breast and knows what's
going on in the NBA as well. Aware that the
Brooklyn Nets fire to head coach jacqu Vaughn on Monday.
There were no games being played. They were still in
the All Star breaks. So it's one of another one

(42:08):
of those cases of how you get fired on your
day off? Right, But hey, look, and I don't enjoy seeing,
you know, brothers get fired.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I think he kind of had an uphill climb from
when he got that job after they lose KD.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Kyrie and James earlier.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
But look the fact is they are twenty one in
thirty three right now before the All Star break ends,
good for eleventh. They do not have any franchise star
currently on the roster. If you thought it was Ben Simmons,
that era is long gone. We're not getting that sixers.

(42:50):
Ben Simmons when he first started out mckel bridges very
good player, not the guy you got Cam Johnson. You
got some other you got Cam Thomas, good good players,
but are you gonna really.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Be able to build around them?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
And so with all that being said, the Nets have
fired three head coaches in the last four years. They're
on their fourth one right now with interim head coach
Kevin Olly.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Dexter.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
So you cover the next and that's very closely. I
know you're the next guy. But hey man, there's got
to be accountability from up top.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's the thing, Chris, you you said it. Three coaches
hired in eight years under Shawn Marks possibly, And this
is the thing I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna throw this
to you, guys before I say more. Do you guys believe,
based on what you've seen from the Brooklyn Nets and
what has transpired with them over the last eight years,

(43:53):
that general manager Sean Marks should be allowed to hire
another head coach without ever, guys, ever making at least
the Eastern Conference finals. Should he be allowed to hire
another head coach?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
T Is that a real question? Because you know what,
I'm gonna quote another line from Friday. I'm gonna quote
another line for Friday, because I heard Chris talk about
you getting Friday your day off. Listen, y'all ain't never
got two things that match. Peanut butter, no jelly ham,
no Burger, star players, no coach. You ain't never matched.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
You hadn't never matched.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You haven't KD, James Hard and Kyrie Irvin and then
you had Steve Nash. This is, this is the decisions
that he's making.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Sean Mark's been need to go.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And I know that is very grammatically incorrect that man
Ben needed to go. Okay, there's no way there's to
answer your question, Dexter, No, you're.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Going with a no. I'm inclined to agree now. From
all that I hear, he's been really tight with owner
Joe Side. I don't know if Joe Side is gonna
want to go into another direction this offseason, but I've
heard that it could be open. It'll be interesting to
see because they are at a crossroads right now. It
didn't work out with all these coaches. It didn't work
out with the Kyrie KD James Harden experiment, as Srik

(45:12):
and Chris just brought up, it didn't happen with all that.
There's been dysfunction around the team. The energy in the
building is dead. Nobody's caring about Barclays games. If you
want energy for a basketball game at Barclay Center, you
better go see the Liberty because that's the only energy
you've getting right now. Sorry Nets fans, but y'all know
it's true. This is a really dire situation. And Chris,

(45:35):
you talked about the roster, you talked about the players,
you talked about the fact about they don't have a
star to build around. From what I've been told, the
way they're looking at this is they don't want to
build around mckel Bridges, who I think is a really
good player, very good player, probably best if he's your
third option. I think we all could agree on that
they want to build with mckel bridges, and that's the
message that they've been putting out there. Now, how are

(45:57):
they going to do that? The reason's the problem. They
don't control much of their first round picks for the
next couple of years. That's another issue in terms of rebuilding.
So what are there at the crossroads now? Is this
is really on Joe's side? Are you going to let
Sean Marx hire another coach? Because if you really look
at the failings of the Brooklyn Nets. It's actually been
in the coaching hires. Right. You can sit here and

(46:19):
talk about the KD Kyrie stuff and we all know
Kyrie didn't want to get the JAB and he didn't
want to do it. Then James Harden didn't like that
and got out of there. But look at the coaches
that've hired. Steve Nash was not a good coach. Okay,
he was not a good coach, couldn't handle the team.
They actually had a good coach that turned things around there.
And Kenny Atkinson, what did they do? They let him
go and a lot of what I had heard because
Kyrie Irving didn't want him there. Okay, so you've made

(46:42):
these choices based on the players that you've brought in
and at the center of it and the root all
of it. And Chris brought up the word accountability, the accountability.
All the coaches have been held accountable and have been fired,
but there's been no accountability for Sean Marks. And the
question for me going forward is when is that going
to come? I think the time now now. Do I
think they're gonna let Sewan Marks go before the season ends? No?

(47:03):
I think if something happens is gonna happen at the
end of the season, preferably before the draft, because this
Nets team is they're currently constructed, guys, They're going nowhere.
That's kind of what Chris was alluding to. He's like, well,
what's the plan? And that's the thing I haven't got
an answer to. What is the plan with the Brooklyn Nets.
They clearly want to rebuild that they're going to try
to move off of Ben Simmons contract next year. But

(47:24):
the bigger question, guys, is who is leading that plan
and vision? Because if we're saying that Sean Marks has
to be the one that's held accountable, well you're gonna
let him hire another coach, his fourth in eight years,
which will be going on a ninth season where he
hasn't made the Eastern Conference finals. Who has anybody seen
anybody in the league as a GM ever get the
chance to do that, To hire four coaches in eight

(47:45):
years and never make an Eastern Conference finals. That doesn't happen.
If that happens, I really got a question what the
Nets are doing because right now they look lost. They
look lost in the wilderness. They look lost in the wilderness.
Right now, they haven't put two things together. Like T said,
there's no account of And I'm sorry, Joe Side, it's
on you now because you have to hold this accountable.

(48:06):
You have to make sure that whether it's if Shawn
Marks is gonna be there, you don't let him pick
another coach. Look, I will come out and say, it
ain't no black GM getting that many chances. We know
that that's not.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
It, right, I was just gonna say, like, I don't
even know how many GMS period get an opportunity to
protect him for head coaches, like that's crazy. But you
know what Derek, I mean, Derek, damnit, dexter. I have
no idea where Derek even came from, Like that's wild.
But I do have a question for you because it

(48:37):
doesn't it obviously is no surprise that this move would
come after being blown out by fifty points by the Celtics, right,
Like that in itself is is concerning. But I feel
like if it were not for that, if it were
not for the obvious, right because when you look at
when you look at Bond's overall record, he's sixty four
and sixty five, so he's literally only one game under

(48:58):
five hundred and even though this team isn't the worst
team in the league, it has often felt like y'all
gotta be at the bottom of the barrel, right, It's
like it's often felt that way, even though numbers don't
suggest that is that way. But I'm curious if you believe,
just based off what you've seen and what you've covered,
if you thought that this was something that would have

(49:18):
happened with him being let go in the middle of
the season, if it had not been for them being
destroyed by Boston by fifty points.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I think that you bring up a great point, dearity,
And yet so my answer in the short would be,
I think the Boston fifty point loss was a factor,
and it wasn't just a factor in terms of the
fact that it got blown out by fifty. But if
you saw some in the comments after the game from
mckel bridges about that where you were like, oh, this
is damning what And I found this out yesterday. I

(49:47):
spoke with Brian Lewis, my colleague at the New York
Post after that game, the fifty point loss they had
He had Kevin Alie Jack Vaughan as he I'm referring to,
had Kevin ali give a speech to the player to
sort of rile them up, and I think that was
a riding on the wall for him there because the
players responded to Kevin Ali and played well the next

(50:07):
game in Orlando, So that wasn't good for him there.
Understand this happened. Sometimes a coach and you go to
assistant coach, you want to give a different voice.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
That happens.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
But Tite's to me, there's no doubt that the fifty
point game lost had a factor in it. But I'm
going to go back another month because you know what
I really think did Joq vaughn in when you look
back to that game in December where he rested, and
I'm saying he lights it lightly because that was an
organizational decision. That was not jacque Vaughan making that decision.

(50:36):
I want to be very clear about that. That was
management saying rest these players. The players didn't rock with that.
The Nets have tails spend ever since that time. I'd
asked some people around the team that cover them at
the time and said, hey, do you think that's the
fact that the first people were saying No, No, don't
I don't think so, But no, that was definitely a
factor and that the team was disjointed, they were never together.

(50:58):
And I think once you saw what happened with the
fifty point loss in Boston and the Boston massacre, there
it was a rap. The writing was on the wall.
So yes, I think that was definitely affected.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
The Boston massacre.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I'm dying, You're right there. You're not right for that, man,
But that's true.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It was man.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Yeah, well, I mean, now.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Do you at this point? I feel, I personally feel
at this point part of the reason that they continue
to get in this situation is because I don't think
that they are thoroughly researching and thoroughly looking to pick
a head coach that truly fits what they are looking
to build in Brooklyn, And I don't know if that
person exists right now. Like I think that this is

(51:45):
you know, you might want to let Kevin Ali rock
out a little bit because this season is probably a
dead season anyway, Like it's no point in trying to
make magic or try to find a postseason spot in
this season, at least I don't believe so. But there
certainly does need to be a certain amount of time
dedicated to a true coaching search and not just getting
a guy to fill a role, not just promoting the

(52:06):
next guy just because you feel like you want to
promote him. And I'm not opposed to promoting Kevin Ali.
I'm just simply saying, if he's the right guy, then
make that decision, don't just do it for the sake
of doing it right. And I think that's just kind
of where I am with I'm interested in seeing how
this coaching search will go if Sean Marks is gonna
be the guy. If it's not, it's gonna be somebody else.

(52:27):
But I'm very interested in seeing how this coaching search
is gonna go when I look at the available coaches
who are out there right now, because we ain't gonna
ask nobody on Milwaukee how that went, but we ain't
going there.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
On that Hey, look man, you about to go down
some dangerous, dangerous territoryy.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
That No, yeah, yea.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
On that note, we need to take a break because
we only available for one more segment.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
All right, guys, So we're gonna end the show today
having a little bit of fun. Okay, We're good to
play a game of cap or no Cap and basically
I'm gonna read you, guys three quotes that have happened
over the weekend and after. I want you to let
me know whether you think that this quote is cap
or no cap because and for those of you who

(53:17):
may be living under a rock and don't understand what
CAP is, cap is they line or no cap. No,
They're being honest, they telling the truth, They're being transparent. Okay,
so cap and no cap. First one comes from Lebron.
James Lebron says that he is fifty to fifty on
whether or not he wants a farewell tour whenever he

(53:39):
decides to retire. Chris, let's start with you, cap or
no cap?

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Hella cap hella cap Come on, man, you know he
wants it. And then he also is going to add
that he's not very comfortable with praise. Man, if you
don't get out with that bullshit like one of the
greatest layers of all time top five write no argument
there damn near top two, right, But we all know

(54:06):
you love some praise and that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You don't need to lie.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Remember in the bubble when he was like, yeah, and
I want my damn respect too. You wanted some praise
in so I'm not comfortable praise? All right, bro, would
it turned down all the magazine offerat and everything sts
illustrated at various publications if you weren't comfortable with it?
But uh, cap.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Cap cap cap, stop lying, Lebron. We don't even have
to go that far to the bubble, Chris. We can
look back to last year. Do you remember last year
when he broke the scoring record? Do you remember how
they stopped everything in the middle of the game. Do
you remember all the people that Lebron had there at
Staple Centu'm not calling the crypto Staple Center. We saw
all that. This man fifty to fifty, he's one hundred

(54:52):
percent in on having a farewell tour. This man is
going to have a farewell tour. I mean, stop he
and I'm not shading him for this.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
It's fine.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Just own it, and we know what you all we've
seen this before. Just own it.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
It's cool.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
You're gonna have your farewell talk talking about you fifty
to fifty like you're gonna be pondering some really tough
life decision here. No, you're not stop it. We know
what it is, cap straight.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I'm gonna bring it. I'm gonna bring it. Back to Friday.
You ain't got the lie, Craig, you ain't got the lie.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
You gotta lie.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Let's find a Friday quote for every piece of this
damn show.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
I promise you can, all right.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Number two. In response to Carmelo Anthony's Hall of Fame
coach George Carl wishes Nuggets center Nicola Jokic a happy birthday,
tagged mellow in the tweet, and then said he is
the best number fifteen to ever put on a Nuggets uniform?

(55:51):
Do you think that Nicola Jokic is the best nugget
to ever put on a fifteen? Put on the fifteen jersey?

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Cap?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
No cap?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Yeah, no cap on that. He's He's definitely the best
number fifteen on the no jersey, no doubt about that.
So no cap. But but what we can say is
George Carl is petty as hell for sure. He didn't
have to tag Carmelo and that he didn't have to
do that to you. Didn't have to do that, Tea.
He didn't have to tag Carmelo up up in that.
Why do you want to antagonize Carmelo like that? Like

(56:24):
like it makes me look at you as a person,
Like why did you have to do that, like, that's real, real,
and I'm here for some petty sometimes. Don't get me wrong,
I'm here for the petty sometimes. But he didn't have
to do all that. He went out of his way
to tag him and make him see it. It's like
you want him to feel the pain. And I don't
even think Carmelo sweating it like that, to be honest,
like George carl you could wish uh NICOLEA Jokich the

(56:47):
happy birthday, but you ain't got to be corny like that.
Come on, come on, man.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
You really did. He really ain't had to be petty.
But I'm here for I'm here for the for the profession.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
That's what Carmelo at this point, he just liked us
feel that way.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, oh god, okay, last one, guys, Kyle Kuzma, that
should I shouldn't even have to even finish the quotes
and would be But Kyle Kuzma says Wizards management asked
him if he would want to be traded to Dallas,
but declined, saying that he wanted to build something in

(57:23):
d c.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Or No cap yes, Christmas.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Boy, cap cap cap What are you smoking?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
What you know?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Damn well, there is nothing to build in DC right now.
They're already trying to move the arena away right tell
Leons is going to Virginia, so taking it away from DC,
and you're talking about, Nah, you want to stay here
and build. Brother, you got two champions on that team
they gonna think about the top of my hear, right,
and Jordan Pule and Kyle Kusma, both of them have

(58:00):
won championships. But when it came to them being like
the focal points of a franchise because those other teams
they are role players, they not getting it done. The
Wizards are one of the worst teams in the league.
And you, Kyle Kuzma, for all your athletic talents and gifts,
you are not going to be the centerpiece.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
You can be a contributing player on a championship team
or a contending team, but building some of DC.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
You just lying bro his cap.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, it's straight, it's straight cap from It's the first
Team All Drip. We know what you about, Kyle Kuzma.
We know we know all that you cared about winning.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Did you see first Team All Drip First.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Team All Drip? That is that that's what that's what
we call him. That's what we call him. He's first team,
that's what he.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
First He'd be wearing a lot of clothes. I don't
know about if they dripping, but you.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Know, I'm just saying, you know what, I'll say, he's
a candidate. He's trying. He tried the fashion show entry
every time he's there at the arena in DC. However, Chris,
when you look at this man's contract and you listen
to what he said, the way his contract is, he's
got a descending contract, so it is designed for him
to be traded. He knew he wasn't trying to build
anything long term in DC when he signed there. He

(59:15):
knew that he wants to be traded. I think the
fact that he did take the trade to Dallas just
told me. He was like, look, I don't want to
go to Dallas and be behind Luca and Kyrie and no,
I might not get enough shots and I don't even
know if Kyrie is going to show up to work.
So he didn't know about any of that, and I
think that's why he didn't want to go. But to
sit there and talk about you were trying to build
something in DC around you, like not cat straight cap

(59:39):
on this. No no, no, no, no, no, come on, Chris,
DC deserves better. You know that they deserve better than
he deserved better.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
You and I have talked about this, but we get
constantly on right, whether it's man players, it's sadd.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
It's all right though, Chris, because you got your girl
d D. That's gonna be holding down for us, Washington mystics.
That's right, there is there is still love. There is
still love, There is still hope for the city of DC.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
It could be worse. They could be the pistons that
it could be worse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Now, see while we catching strays.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
While we catch you trying to get kicked off the shoot.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Producers one two games in a row, I never.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I just want the producer to know that Dexter a
k A. Derek is no longer allowed to be on
the showy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Time of Death here was I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
My pistons catching strays. We're doing all right, you're talking
about we almost had ten wins. We were out here
and we're doing a lot better than I thought we
would be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
By star break, baby steps, baby steps.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Baby steps, baby steps, Well, guys, it has been a
heck of a show. Up until the last five minutes
where it just became a complete disaster. However, we want
you guys to stay locked in with us, so please
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(01:01:15):
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If you have not yet by this point, just go
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you're doing with your life. You're out here making some
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your podcast. I'm Terreika Foster brasby my guy Chris Williamson,

(01:01:40):
Dexter Henrio Judas over here and we're gonna holler at
you guys next time. Thanks for kicking it with us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Peace out, well,

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